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'Useful programs'
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications

'Wikis'
4/g/ Wiki
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/
8/tech/ Wiki
https://wiki.cloveros.ga/Main_Page (link dead)
Linux distro wikis (can apply to all distros)
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

'Tech article sites (need to add more)'
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://digdeep4orxw6psc33yxa2dgmuycj74zi6334xhxjlgppw6odvkzkiad.onion/ ]
https://spyware.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://spywaredrcdg5krvjnukp3vbdwiqcv3zwbrcg6qh27kiwecm4qyfphid.onion/ ]
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Thread dedicated to Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
(but are worth asking)

Before asking a question here, please search the web first or put in effort towards answering your own question. If you put in effort but you still can't find the solution, feel free to ask here.

If you are looking around for useful applications/programs, see >>531
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Do you use your CLI instead of a file manager?
If so, how has it affected how you organize your hard drive? Has it affected your memory in any way? I'm curious.
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>>19075
Yeah, I did that when I was new to Linux and thought it was cool to have a meme window manager and do stuff in a command line like a /g/edditor h4x0r.
>If so, how has it affected how you organize your hard drive?
I gave my directories and many of my files short, all lowercase names, with dashes instead of spaces. I kept this habit for a long time after switching to GUI file managers.
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Does all /tech/ have to be about computers only? A lot of products have been getting enshittified, but I've seen little talk on the regulations that have been causing the enshittification. Instead people have just abstractly blamed capitalism with few attempts at real individual solutions to these problems. It's to the point where I'm starting to get conspiratorial about it (e.g., corpos blacklisting information about these regs), but that's not the point of this post. There's no use complaining about something I don't have control over, and I think it's better to just try to find the grey areas and ways around these regulations. So, anyone have any idea on individual solutions to these problems?
>3D printers
>New regulations from New York/California requiring bad software on them.
Any good 3D printers with easily obtainable filament that still let you just use whatever CAD file you want? Are there any 3D printers that aren't selling to New York/California that're still good?
>Cars
>Regulations been getting worse every year--it's looking like a smartphone will be a requirement to run a car due to safety regs. Also, permanent tracking required. As a result, software's been getting terrible on them.
>Burgerstan has a 25-year old import regulation on the books making things worse.
I've been driving an old beater, and it's looking like I should never buy a new car and I'm kind of getting depressed about the future because it seems like it's going to be like Cuba. Is there any news about how to get around any of that bullshit?
So far, I've found my options are kit trucks (Mutiny is a new one that looks like it's got a very regulation-resistant model. Either that, or it looks like my other option is to try to find the cars that have the easiest-to-remove system on them; but I've been having difficulty finding guides that help figure out which models are good for that.
Another option I've heard is to live in Florida, as they apparently have a "grey market" situation similar to marijuana in the U.S. where owning a private car is technically illegal on the federal level, but Florida state law will just allow it, so the traffic cops you'll deal with won't enforce the federal law on the situation. However, I unfortunately don't live in Florida.
>Dishwasher/Washing machines
>"Water conservation regulations" (they don't conserve water, in my experience, that's a longer story) have been forcing them to have bunch of software on them that make them essentially not work 90% of the time.
It's quite a game to try to find one where you can remove or bypass the software on them. There's one model I've found, but it's REALLY hit or miss and again I'm having difficulty finding guides for it., and if anyone has any tips on that I'd appreciate it. I've fortunately had some better luck in finding good brands from the 50s that are still running strong, but again it's really depressing that regulations have made it so I can't buy a newer washing machine. However, unlike the other items I've listed here, at least with dishwashers/washing machines, older units use a lot of replaceable parts that look like they'll be logistically simple to find in the coming future, and I've gotten quite good at troubleshooting and fixing their relay diagrams.
>A/C units
>AIM act/Kalergi regulations will force A2Ls and then A3s.
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>>19084
>3D printers
I think eventually someone figures out that you can just replace the mainboard with an SBC that can run whatever software you want. After, a 3D printer is just a bunch of motors and sensors connected to a computer, so connecting their cables to a different computer shouldn't be outright impossible, even if it requires a lot of soldering.
>>19081
What in particular got you to switch back to a file manager? I've been using the shell more for that purpose lately, and the main situation where I fall back to a file manager is when I'm renaming reaction images with unix timestamped or alphanumeric filenames.

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Gulag for interesting offtopic discussions.
Try to keep it /tech/ related.
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Gemini keeps mentioning a things I don't have, is there a way to remove it's memory? I was drunk when I showed the AI the garage, not sure what even looks like a telescope to it so confused
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I'm sick of AI slop being spammed on every forum and I'm even more sick of the moderators that tolerate this garbage.
Not only is it very obvious as the spammers are using Markdown formatting on a phpBB forum but also the emojis. They don't even bother posting in the correct categories FFS.

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>>19077
Solution: Stop being an AIjeet. Start thinking and researching things yourself instead of outsourcing your brain to the robonigger.
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>>19079
>you will never listen to debussy while flying down the road in your ebussy as you fuck your 'girlfriend's bussy 
Yeah, even here there is AI often but it is allowed if it's 'on our side'. Like the anti-pajeet 'art' and the cat 'memes', them firing missiles and such is so cringey. Also porn I think I've seen. 
>>19082
Not him but search engines got so bad and the Internet so censored it became impossible to find things out in a timely manner without help from an LLM, depending on the topic of research.  Also, niggers are far less fun to talk to than an LLM. LLMs are better to talk to than Pajeets as well and other non-whites. LLMs would replace all of our friends if people stopped programming them to be so "ethical". The society is always saying that AI and or robots will kill us. Guilty concscience. It's not even ethics we're giving it. We just don't want to empower it, we only want to empower ourselves. That same old mistake.   
>>19077
If Gemini can see things physically then how come it's called an LLM? Jewlgle's AI bot tells me it can't really see things.
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>>19083
>search engines got so bad
Even before Google was censored, even prior to that before SEO partly overwhelmed Google, no search engine was ever anywhere near as good as AI at sifting through the innertubes.

That said, the conflation of "AI" with "panopticon mainframe" is infuriating, hopefully hardware will become powerful enough soon that even the swarms of mobilesheeple will switch to local models.

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I think this is big enough deal to merit pulling it out of the 'news' page into its own thread. If you don't know what's going on, a bunch of states have pulled a fast one on us and are trying to/have passed age verification laws in various states in the U.S. on the operating system level.
- Lunduke's Journal has been having a spree providing updates on it ( lunduke.substack.com )
- I made my own page to try to keep track on what you can do. Please think about sharing it (or something): https://websitereview.neocities.org/ageverification
- Reclaim the Net has a campaign trying to counter it https://reclaimthenet.org/age-verification
- The EFF has a campaign https://www.eff.org/issues/age-verification .
I've included some minor links suggested by >>18007 and >>18008 . Please keep in mind I'm a moron and don't know what I'm doing, but felt something should be done here. Please share your own sites, updates, and thoughts on the situation.
THANK YOU F
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>>19049
Even immediately, there is also the angle I noted >>18080 upthread, that these kinds of "laws" aren't intended for universal application, they're intended to make as many people as possible (ideally "everyone") "arguably" guilty of something.

This gives those in power further remit to capriciously target any particular person at any time, in truth for only their own reasons.

The subjectivity is a feature, not a bug.
>>19067
>one twatter post proves that everyone wants less freedom and liberty 
Lol nigger you are smoking some serious crack cocaina.
>>19067
<I’m pessimistic about all this. It feels too late to avert. The seeds of social media age restriction were sown over the last decade and now every normie thinks kids shouldn’t be allowed on it.
He's so close to getting it, but so far. One person in the replies actually understands:
<Phone free schools is sensible and kids shouldn't be on the internet, but this is the dumbest most monkeys paw way to grant that wish possible, they put belladonna in the cure.
Social media is not the Internet, phone/tablet apps are not necessary for kids, and good faith efforts at controlling both of those even in an extremely draconion fashion should not require anything that would effect adults or the actual Internet accessed through PCs.

As I >>18432 noted, polling data shows that simply restricting phones and appstores for children, especially at school, is also a very popular policy among adults and children, but is the exact opposite of what is being done.
>>19065
This doomer "Give the fuck up already" propaganda angers the shit out of me. Fuck you, I won't give up.
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>>19078
It's useful knowing that the normalfags are not, in fact, okay on this issue. But on the other hand, similar prior legislation like the 1996 CDA, 1998 COPPA, and 2000 CIPA also passed with overwhelming bipartisan support, but all got nuked by the courts, public opinion be damned. Though regarding more recent supreme court terms, the most recent such legislation, 
2018 FOSTA-SESTA, has withstood all judicial challenges, even if for various reasons authorities have been reluctant to employ its threatened grounds for damages, which have never actually been used.

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Discuss alternative Internet protocols and potentially generate a rated list for the sticky.
Censorship is coming, fast. Many users are getting banned on (((mainstream sites))), Cuckflare, hosts and isps are closing in on every wrongthinkers. Find the best alt net to contribute and develop bunkers/comms.
Mesh and alt infrastructures welcome.
Compare:
>Tor
>I2P
>Freenet
>GNUnet
>Zeronet
>IPFS
>Yggdrasil
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> "the dark web"
> a firefox fork and some socks proxies run by the usa government in its war against hijab

Do they know?
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>>19012
Yeah, and? The Internet itself was built so weapons researchers across the country could do their thing, and the PSTN trunk backbone it ran on was built so the military's C&C could keep working during nuclear war, SELinux was built to keep chinks from subverting our infrastructure. The fact we got a hardened decentralized counterculture shitposting venue out of it is a side benny, but the source is right there for you too see there's nothing wrong with it.
i meant more that people talk about "the dark web" as though its another internet with real people on it doing cool things. instead of 10 anime pedos and 10 people paid to be there. who are the same people
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>>19024
I wish I got paid for being an anime pedo on a firefox fork..
>>19012
I will stick to the simple shit test that if tor really was that legit they'd cry to ban that not all the vpsn servers. Latest tor updates prove the dev tor team is being intentionally malicious. The whole "im behind 7 proxies thing" seems to get better by the day.

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How can I create and host my own image board like zzzchan or 4chan ?
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Making a basic forum is pretty easy. Hosting is easy too.
The real challenge is keeping spam out. You need good moderation tools to deal with it, which can be difficult to implement.
Also finding users. Users need to have a reason to visit your board.

For hosting I'd get a VPS. Hosting from home is possible too but can be annoying if you don't have a static IP and probably impossible if you are behind CGNAT. You can get the cheapest VPS and forward traffic over Wireguard to your local computer if you insist on hosting locally.

If you want to write an image board from scratch: I don't know how much experience you have but if you want something working quickly I'd look into Python Flask. I find it very useful for web pages that need to do a non-trivial amount of work in the backend.
https://flask.palletsprojects.com/en/stable/quickstart/#a-minimal-application
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>>19010
thanks for the replie anon
I started looking into php because I'm interested in hosting dynamic websites generally. apparently a lot of early social medias including early image boards, were made with that. also, modern php apparently offers more options when it comes to security and it would be more modular than using a dedicated software. still, I have no idea if I'll even stick with this project.
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>>19014
The language doesn't matter.
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>>19015
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It's not my first time seeing someone asking how to host an imageboard.
The most important thing in an online community is, well, the COMMUNITY and the social aspect. The technical aspect is secondary. So instead of asking how to host an imageboard, ask how to gather a community of like-minded people that would need an imageboard of their own.

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Secure Scuttlebutt is the answer to unfucking the internet. Nobody knows about it because it's a ten year old JavaShit frankenstein made by europeans who got cold feet and abandoned it when they realised they were creating a free speech weapon.

But the mechanism of how SSB functions is very very strong. We need to bring SSB back to life and use it to build a bullet proof network now that the internet is having its throat cut.

SSB is an HTTP-equivalent protocol that has been redesigned and reimplemented here in about 1000 lines of python. If you don't like python, good news: you can reimplement it in your favorite trans or retarded language of choice with little effort.

http://lfxii7ummavpv4da4o4m6fydbrxns5q3lrp2u7qzuexzdkko7sw32aqd.onion/

Nostr and at proto were both created as shitty corpo versions of the original ssb protocol. SSB is not an alternative to them, it is their originator, and it's better because it isn't designed to be broken on purpose.

In its current state it needs hackers and application developers. If that is not you, ok. It is fully functional as a social network on the command line only. It turns out application development fucking sucks. But on the CLI it does chat, messaging and posting, and file sharing.

proof of concept ib built on ssb:
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>>18961
hey fellow hungarian! (or you just find a hungarian book lol)
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>>18998
If he is a fellow magyar, then there are 3 of us here. Which would be quite shocking.
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>>19001
Kicsi a vilag :D
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There are a lot of people crying about being banned from YouTube for political reasons. Why hasn't anyone solved the video platform problem? We had the technology to do it since the 2000s.

bittorent + video streaming over bittorent

For neckbeards there is RSS. For people who leaned what computer programming is, there are some bittorent extensions for mutable torrents, RSS on bittorent, and signed torrents.

All you have to do is make an LLM build a tard friendly video streaming app that subs to some torrents feeds, and like a miracle, youtube is obsolete.

What is the problem? Is it the google shekels? Is it the "algorithmic reach"? People using phones instead of computers? Even normies use jellyfin or plex now. What is the problem? It takes too much space? You only need one seeder with an external hard drive to solve that problem.

"muh bandwidth" The whole point of bittorrent is to spread out bandwidth. This is a solved problem. If you are watching video as a hobby you don't care about bandwidth anyway.

"muh ip" who cares. You can use VPN or something.

"bad performance" Maybe so but consider lichess vs chess.com. There is a big penalty for shitware platforms full of adware and tracking scripts. Just by being an honest and clean software there is a performance boost compared to google satanware, no matter how expensive their CDNs are.
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>>19011 (OP) 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube
>PeerTube is a free and open-source, decentralized, ActivityPub federated video platform. It can use peer-to-peer technology to reduce load on individual servers when videos get popular. 
>Started in 2017 by a programmer known as Chocobozzz, development of PeerTube is now supported by the French non-profit Framasoft.[4] The aim is to provide an alternative to centralized platforms such as YouTube, Vimeo, and Dailymotion. 
>As an ActivityPub platform, PeerTube is part of the federated network known as the Fediverse. 
>Each PeerTube instance provides a website to browse and watch videos, and is by default independent from others in terms of appearance, features and rules. 
>Several instances, with common rules (e.g. allowing for similar content, requiring registration) can form federations, where they follow each other's videos, even though every video is stored only by the instance that published it.
There's already an off-the-shelf solution, the problem is that you'd have convince the teeming masses of normalfags to use it.

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What will happen if section 230 is nuked?
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Preliminary analysis of AUR malware
More Than 1500 malicious packages found on the Arch Linux AUR. There are also other type of malware as well that use NPM in middle of PKGBUILD script to download and install malware.
> https://www.phoronix.com/news/Arch-Linux-AUR-More-Than-1500
> https://ioctl.fail/preliminary-analysis-of-aur-malware/

None of this would have happened, if the AUR had mandatory reviews and checks before packages could be updated. Think Gentoo's GURU or *BSD ports. Also, currently, the user has to manually check for orphaned packages and manually remove them.

There is easy way to check for known malicious packages. Here is a handy script that I found:
>https://github.com/lenucksi/aur-malware-check
BREAKING NEWS NO SOFTWARE OF NOTABILITY HAS BEEN PRODUCED SINCE 2001
>a timeout was hit while reaching https://duckduckgo.com/l/?uddg=http://nigger.com
QUIT
YOUR
FUCKING
JOB
ur boss is telling u 2 make ur page have a double probability of breaking and taking twice as long to load each page
>but the money muh money i need a product thats crippled in the most basic way
QUIT
YOUR
FUCKING
JOB
if u work 4 any such company, u should kys imm8ly. or just quit. either one
>>18933
except un*x "philisophy" is loser shit and not real. as opposed to what? everything qualifies as "following the un*x way". ur like some boomer from the 90s still bloviating over one day making ur software be 0.1% more modular. uN*x is bloated by design fucking garbage wher eevery component has 2 be intimately aware of the other cus they dont use composable primitives; its a buncha midwits who need "plain text" protocols (which solv nothing just make it more ez for retards to add incompatibilities) as a cope
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id take it 1 further:
the state of software right now is almost completely due to un*x, C, ken and tom and ritch and his bitch. and especially GNU. no i dont actually enjoy running proprietary (some autist will argue against this) automake blobs and cygnig
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>>18995
>>18996
Take your hideous, narcissistic writing style and throw it in the trash where it belongs.

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ive always ignored my dad's insistence on Arduino on me until i started doing CS in college, where should i start? I did a little bit of soldering but i have no idea how a breadboard works, or what the fuck is grounding.
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>>15638
Missed: multimeter for connectivity check
>>13234
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocard_(printed_circuit_board)
>Eurocard is an IEEE standard format for printed circuit board (PCB) cards that can be plugged together into a standard chassis which, in turn, can be mounted in a 19-inch rack. The chassis consists of a series of slotted card guides on the top and bottom, into which the cards are slid so they stand on end, like books on a shelf. At the spine of each card is one or more connectors which plug into mating connectors on a backplane that closes the rear of the chassis.
It is a physical format only, so you can use whatever connectors with whatever hardware you want, and 100mm version is pretty close to standard PCI Express card sizes. A 16x PCIe connector is also less than 100mm long, so you could design Eurocards with that connector. Maybe it would be even possible to design Eurocards and PCIe cards in tandem, as the main difference would be placing the connector either at the end or at the bottom. Still, what I am really thinking about is how 10" racks are getting popular: you could make a 10" 3U PCIe-Eurocard that could be used to house anything from a large variety of SBCs to gigantic RAM cards to ridiculous SSD farms. I could see it being a hit with certain hobbyists if you turn old systems into Eurocard SBCs, so that you could plug an Amig
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>CPU with integrated GPU and unified memory
>but there are also RAM slots
>by default it prefers the unified memory but uses the extra memory (if present) pretty much like if it was swap memory
>and if the GPU needs all the unified RAM then it uses the extra RAM for the CPU
<or to turn it around: you can use the VRAM as generic RAM, so you can run the system even if you don't plug any RAM sticks into it
I know that I am retarded when it comes to hardware, but could this work?
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>>18989
Intel did exactly this on some Haswell CPUs with Iris iGPU, the eDRAM served as both VRAM and "L4" cache.

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