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'Useful programs'
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications

'Wikis'
4/g/ Wiki
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/
8/tech/ Wiki
https://wiki.cloveros.ga/Main_Page (link dead)
Linux distro wikis (can apply to all distros)
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

'Tech article sites (need to add more)'
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://digdeep4orxw6psc33yxa2dgmuycj74zi6334xhxjlgppw6odvkzkiad.onion/ ]
https://spyware.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://spywaredrcdg5krvjnukp3vbdwiqcv3zwbrcg6qh27kiwecm4qyfphid.onion/ ]
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Thread dedicated to Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
(but are worth asking)

Before asking a question here, please search the web first or put in effort towards answering your own question. If you put in effort but you still can't find the solution, feel free to ask here.

If you are looking around for useful applications/programs, see >>531
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>>18279 (Me)
I'd like to thank everyone who replied, I have been slowly checking out the languages in these last few months. I tried some flavors of Lisp but I get the impression that static typing was bolted onto it as an afterthought. Scheme felt a bit less obtuse, probably because documentation for OS functions was more comprehensible, but as far I as could see it is dynamically typed with no recourse. I did a quick detour to C+ when I found a HolyC compiler for GNU/Linux and it was like a comfier version of C (because nowhere is comfier than within God's warmth) that can seamlessly use regular C functions with just by declaring them as external.
I still have D, OCaml, Coalton, and Gleam on my list, but maybe my ride on the language carousel has finally come to an end now that I got to Haskell. Its hyperautistic type system is exactly what I was looking for, and having functions as type transformers that can be daisychained like an Unix pipeline fits well with how I usually think of computer functions. It seemed a bit daunting first because I thought I'd have to learn all that nerd shit about monads and m*noids, and then have to deal with Haskell's apparent love for lists, but nope; passing fat structs between functions remains undefeated. This language could only get better if it had global variables, numeric for loops, and GOTO statements. I also noticed that GHC does make's job and I'm still not sure whether 
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>>19246
If you do mess around with OCaml sometime, take a gander at https://oxcaml.org/ and see if it looks like something that'd interest you.
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Why do I see niggers doing video calls on their phones in public more than anyone else? What are the implications?
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>>19270
Visual media is the most appealing to low IQ and uneducated populations over rival forms of media. Blacks are among the lowest in IQ and possess the least education.
I want to backup the contents of an NVMe drive from a laptop but I don't have any other computer with a slot for them. There are also devices that allow NVMe drives to be connected via USB but they're generally not recommended. Is there a good solution or should I use those USB adaptors either way?

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Discuss /tech/-related news.
What will happen if section 230 is nuked?
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>>19207
I saw this too today
Kiwifarms is going kill.
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>>19228
It's just clearnet DNS fuckery, the onion hasn't dropped once.
https://github.com/isene/frame
Some faggot asked a chatbot to write an X11 server in x86 assembly. Which is all kinds of horrible, but still better than Wayland.
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>>19275
>asm
Interesting
>no gpu hooks
Silly

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removing boomers from the internet would solve all its problems

on the turn of the century we all used the internet as teens. we all had msn and icq, maybe irc. we all knew how to browse and make websites. run emulators, download music. use forums. download pr0n. say niggerfaggot. play video games. maybe write code

we knew not to follow advice from the internet. not to run random .exes. we were 10-14.

then the boomers came, around 2010. before that they didnt even know what the internet let alone a computer is. they saw that teens are using the internet
>NOOOO my kidderinos gonna see the forbidden fruit!!
they saw that instant messaging exists
>NOOOO my kidderinos gonna talk to a stranger
they saw websites
>NOOO its about something i dont like MAKE IT ILLEGAL MAKE IT ILLEGAL MAKE IT ILLEGAL
they saw that their son could make a website
>NOOOOO you dont have a license
they saw their son emulate a game that has been out of sale for 40 years
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>>19265
>Isn't it kind of funny how there are zero fucking studies on the effects of traditional desktop PC usage on children's brains, and the few studies that exist in a similar vein cover enlightened topics such as "touchscreen use good for child motor development compared to mouse use (only mouse, no keyboard included)" while refusing to categorize any on-screen content by putting everything under a generic "screen time" label as if that fucking tells anything.
I don't have that yet, unfortunately, but Christof van Nimwegen's early 2000s-era papers have some relevant stuff that I haven't finished going through yet (these are a pretty small selection of them). He tested variants of different logic puzzle games and productivity software, and generally found that users of the more "helpful" software learned the programs quicker, but were so much less productive than users of the unhelpful software that the latter quickly surpassed them and ultimately saved more time.
https://www.uu.nl/staff/CvanNimwegen/Publications
>>19251
The average american isn't smart enough to learn how to drive manual that's why it was phased out. Everyone knows a manual/sequential is objectively better since it gives you full control over the gears for all circumstances whereas auto will do all sorts of inefficient stupid shifting at inopportune times because it's just made for general purpose use. Anyone actually racing will prefer manual/sequential. The people who care about it are the ones who actually do more than just driving to work/the grocery store aka enthusiasts/experts. 

The average car is made under the assumption the average driver is functionally retarded hence the push from the state/companies to phase the driver out of the equation entirely.
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>>19276
I've noticed that farmers who pull livestock trailers seem more likely to drive manuals. I have no direct experience with hauling a trailer, but I assume it's likely for the same reason.
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>>19276
>>19279
I'm pretty sure Americans own more cars and drive more than Europeans. You have no evidence for your claim. Just overconfidence.
>>19265
>traditional desktop PC usage on children's brains
As I mentioned children were often restricted in desktop computer use or prohibited from it entirely. The difference is that desktops aren't portable and thus can't be carried out of their retarded parents' supervision.

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I think this is big enough deal to merit pulling it out of the 'news' page into its own thread. If you don't know what's going on, a bunch of states have pulled a fast one on us and are trying to/have passed age verification laws in various states in the U.S. on the operating system level.
- Lunduke's Journal has been having a spree providing updates on it ( lunduke.substack.com )
- I made my own page to try to keep track on what you can do. Please think about sharing it (or something): https://websitereview.neocities.org/ageverification
- Reclaim the Net has a campaign trying to counter it https://reclaimthenet.org/age-verification
- The EFF has a campaign https://www.eff.org/issues/age-verification .
I've included some minor links suggested by >>18007 and >>18008 . Please keep in mind I'm a moron and don't know what I'm doing, but felt something should be done here. Please share your own sites, updates, and thoughts on the situation.
THANK YOU F
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>>19239
The purpose of regulations is to lock out competition in the market. They're going to eventually push this regulation on the hardware level to make computing so expensive that the only way you can use a computer is by renting one. At which point, all this freedom is gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p99Y3k0uNc
That's the end plan. Regulations and lobbying are where enshittification starts.
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>>19264
>But it's just one age check!
I just think about how after the stupid "dots" regulation got passed for printers you saw only three or four brands of printers on the market thereafter. Nobody has pieced together the dots on that one.
I'm considering to get a paid VPN for a while, so I have a question: Is it possible to bypass verification with one? If yes, I'll be killing two birds with a stone.
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>>19277
Depends on how age verification is implemented, but so far it seems like no country figured out how to implement a system that defeats VPNs for good, other than banning their servers.

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Ever since I switched from systemd to sysvinit because of >>18176, I find myself questioning all these nerd turf wars I explicitly have ignored.
My normal daily setup:
- systemd
- X11 (gnome)
- Pulseaudio
- Vim
- Debian
Now I find myself wondering about OpenRC, Wayland, Alsa, emacs, LUKS, Trisquel, TailOS[, and GNU Hurd]. Which of these in your experiences have been worthwhile? What's the most privacy respecting setup?
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>>18466
>https://suckless.org/sucks/
Why exactly are gcc and clang coded in c++?
>>18467
And I'll ask the follow-up myself.
If Microsoft is sabotaging cross platform UI, then why would Electron not be sabotaged?
The answer is that they are already working on it.
Microsoft uses "embrace, extend, extinguish", and is now "embracing" in this area.
One example is Edge, which is also based on Chromium (the engine used by Electron), and is further focusing on this broader technology by using React Native for core components of the Windows 11 UI.
It's only a matter of time before they introduce changes that are prohibitively difficult to keep up with, and will make it a horrible experience for users and developers.
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>>18469
Another important example of MS embracing Chromium is VS Code.

Also, they might introduce changes to have more influence in Linux, for example by depending on systemd.
This way it does "work on Linux", but only if you help to give them more power, which they will inevitably abuse further on.
tl;dr for people who don't feel like wading through a book's worth of wiki pages and imageboard posts

A. glibc has maintained ABI stability for decades, sure every now and then there's a bug, but they've maintained ABI stability

B. ABI stability doesn't mean that your program will continue to work if you rely on undocumented implementation details, 

C. jeets have failed at B since before the dawn of the electronic computer, and for some reason game devs chose the hash format used for symbol lookup as the hill to die on, something a video game has no reason to care about
>>18389 (OP) 
emacs fag here, I did the opposite and checkout Vim afer 7 years and loved it. Now I use emacs with evilmode, mpv, mupdf and a vim-extension on irssi.
I messed around the runit init system on Void and have been loving it, I'm never going to systemd again.

Wayland is trannyware so I'm sticking with the boomerware Xorg. I also got rid of Pulseaudio and I manage to record video gameplay with my mic using just Pipewire+Wireplumber and Pulseaudio compatibiliy layer so that's nice.  are enough for my sound setup.

Another thing that's been worthwile for me was checking out the tiling window manager meme. Fucking life changer.

>>18392
>pic
Holy moly, now I remember the infamous blog post.
But to be fair cuckchan's emacs/LISP general is a discord troon circlejerk, although it's not as bad as the mpv/ffmpeg generals.

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How do I join?

Post:
- a link to your website
- a 240x60 banner of your website

then add the others also in the webring

I'll start:
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>>1215 (OP) 
I'm mostly lurking on this imageboard but I made a banner for another webring. This is not my personal website but I'm heavily invested into the project.

We collect high quality PDFs created from book scans, people can contribute or request a book too.

http://scriptorium.eu.org
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>>6012
>>6016
>>6017
>>6160
Just stumbled on this: https://darkm000t.neocities.org/
Seems like the real deal. Looks like he's a VR Chat thot now?
>>1215 (OP) 
OP your site is down. The regular web URL is now some russian gambling domain squating bullshit.

Even so, I am actually down for making a webring or web portal. Is anyone else still interested in this stuff?
>>7261
I know that this post is 4 years old, but seriously? You sell a PDF for 30 € that is freely available on archive.org, and you even link to that file?
What kind of retards are your target audience?
https://scriptorium.eu.org/wasserscheiden/

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Firefox 152 ships JpegXL for the first time ever in regular builds.
It's still behind a flag but that will probably change soon. (about:config image.jxl.enabled)
In Chrome too: chrome://flags/#enable-jxl-image-format

We won in the end and Google and their cocksuckers at Mozilla bent over when the PDF Association made JXL their standard.

How do we get imageboards to finally allow uploading .jxl?
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>>19166
It'd be no worse than the current problems with JS, or various other VM languages like Java itself that support quite fine grained permissions. I think the tradeoff would've been worth it, to gain a unified, far more elegant and powerful system, also extending throughout the OS much better.
>I'm not sure how declarative Flash is
Excepting, e.g., ActionScript? Completely. On the subject of PDF, partly for that exact reason Adobe shifted both PDF and Illustrator away from PostScript in 2000, to a new completely declarative internal data format.
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>>19168
Java got removed from the web for good reasons.

>On the subject of PDF, partly for that exact reason Adobe shifted both PDF and Illustrator away from PostScript in 2000, to a new completely declarative internal data format.
It's very possible you're right. I have no clue about the internals of Flash. All I know is that most of it is proprietary and hard to work with using third party tools.
It just didn't happen. Without making a formal open image format it's not something that just happens randomly.
>>19154
>supported by nothing
You mean like JXL?
Modem game engines support QOI.
>made as a joke 
You're the joke here, nigger. Stop lying.
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>>19193
QOI? Not many, not natively.

Jpeg xl is support is already widespread. Browser rollout is soon. Full support by Apple and PDF Association. It's part of PDF now. Many Linux programs already have full integration. MS has an official Microsoft Jxl extension for Windows since last year in Windows store. They've just been waiting how things turn out. I expect it will become part of Windows soon.
Game engines support other formats with higher feature requirements like .hdr, so Jxl will naturally replace those use cases too.
casual reminder that farbfeld is the ultimate image format

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bitsocial might be the future of the internet being fully open source, peer-to-peer social protocol.

anyone can build their own app or launch communities on existing ones.


Your community literally cannot be banned or blocked by anyone, even a government. it solves that problem




https://github.com/bitsocialnet

https://bitsocial.net/
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<react
<NFT based authentication
into the trash it goes
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>>19226
<bittorrent
<NFT based authentication
Literally nothing wrong with that, especially now that scaling/efficiency has been solved
<react
First, it's local clientside open source software, so it's not like there's any spoopy phone home browser magic involved.

Second, that's just an implementation detail of the current reference library. The standard itself permits the API to be implemented in any language or framework.

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What is the final document format? Not text file (unformatted). I am asking for formatted text document, with tables and embedded images. What is the final solution?

Proposals:
-ODF (.odt)
-Rich Text Format (.rtf)
-HTML
-DOC (.doc)
-DOCX

Considerations:
-is the format simple, efficient, small?
-is it open source, free, or at least without patents or some other shit
-is it supported by large amount of software? for import and export
-is it malware? has hidden metadata and other shit? complex and proprietary?
-does the format allow for huge documents?
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>>7636
This is retarded.
Does your notebook have code syntax highlighting ?
Does your notebook include links ?
Does your notebook includes figures ?
Does your notebook export to HTML/PDF ?
>r-remember
Nigger I'm juggling 4 to 5 projects on average, reading several books in parallel, thinking up several ways to optimize existing stuff and constantly coming up with new scripts to automate things. Go doodle something.

>>7693
>can't alt-tab between 2 different windows
>can't use workspaces
>can't use virtual desktops
>can't use 2 screens or split a screen between 2 programs
>can't set up easy key bindings to easily naviate between windows on a window manager
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>>7441 (OP) 
Easily latex, especially for formal documents such as CVs and graphics with tikz.
>>7695
>the language that begins with L and ends with p and that is related to Emacs
Lisp?
>>19227
>code syntax highlighting
Eh. You don't need that to read non-code text unless you have severe forms of ADHD (which, ironically, are so severe and crippling that normalfags usually don't recognise these cases as ADHD), and especially not when you're reading text on a physical page.
>links
Hyperlinks actively harm reading comprehension by triggering brief focus breaks every time your brain quickly evaluates whether to follow the link or not.
>figures
You have a pencil. Draw your statistical charts yourself.
>HTML/PDF export
That's your main actual disadvantage.
>multitasking
Objectively less productive than focused work thanks to the overhead of mental context switching. It's another thing if you're interleaving bouts of focused work with short breaks and focused work on other things, as this'll help you work on problems in the back of your mind and assist with knowledge transfer, but if you're quickly jumping from one thing to another on your computer, the lost focus will ultimately mean you waste more time and depth of insight than you gain.
>>7636
Physical is the best to remember and learn, but takes a lot of space to storage with time.

>>8834
Markdown is the best for visualization, can edit anywhere and it's just a text file.
I really like Obsidian and similar apps, mostly because they are just text but you can sync, add images, etc.
The one I liked most is Anytype. Just wish it was a bit more generous with free storage, 100MB is like e-mail in the 00s.

If you really really want something fancy and fully custom just use html, it's what everyone uses and will be using for decades.
Works for mobile too. If you want it you can add fonts, Javascript, CSS and whatever you need, even server connection and APIs.
Cons - have to program and host your schizophrenic dreams on it, wasting time.

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