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Discuss the pros and cons of the network, dev news, tips, hacks and other useful information.
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>>4848
>You should be using both either way since they both have different use cases anyways
Explain
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>>4848
>They're both designed to protect the data being shared rather than whose participating in the network itself
No. Tor is designed to anonymize the user. If only data protection is the function, TLS would do the job. The problem of Tor is it is not hiding the fact that the user is using Tor. That means out of all Tor users, anyone siting in between doesn't know from which user the packet came from. That provides anonymity.
>Not to mention not everyone using Tor actually participates in the network
Only Tor relays participate in middle of the route. https://support.torproject.org/it/alternate-designs/make-every-user-a-relay/
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>>4849
Tor is designed for clearnet access.
i2p is only for Eepsites.
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>>4848
> if every government just decided to shut down every Tor nodes they could find
Tor is more centralized than that. There are only 9 directory authorities you need to take down to stop Tor working.

>>4851
i2p also supports udp and ipv6 so it can route non-web protocols like bittorrent much better.
>>4849
i2p has a built in torrent client and filesharing client, and the network structure is better designed to handle sharing those large files since everyone participating is a node.  The Tor network gets overwhelmed if many people are downloading large files, especially through the clearnet due to the smaller number of Tor exit nodes (not to mention you'll probably just be a leech).  Also, many Tor clients allegedly end up ignoring to proxy settings since they use udp.
Tor is a lot faster though and can be used to browse the clearnet, which i2p can't do out of the box.
>>4850
>No. Tor is designed to anonymize the user. If only data protection is the function, TLS would do the job.
I did clarify that later, though my first statement was pretty unclear
<With both no one can know what's being sent and who it's being sent too (Excluding [exit]* nodes).

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>For a few hours today all v3 onion addresses on the Tor network were down. This appears to be a new kind of attack which affects the entire network and involves overloading the consensus authority nodes.
>You will currently not be able to access any v3 onion addresses, what is happening is unknown, but it is potentially a huge attack on the entire network. Earlier today I made a post outlining consequences I would be putting into place to deter markets from funding DDoS attacks against each other, as the potential to scale and completely kill every node on the network is a very real potential outcome. Now everything is down and I have no idea if this has sped up the process of this occurring or if it is even an attack at all, all I know is, this is big.
>Reddit post by u/hugbunt3r This attack began after Dread forum owner, HugBunter made a post stating the consequences for market owners who continue to attack rival markets.
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>The recent/current attacks on multiple markets have been troubling after we’ve all had a good break for some time and things started to heal and become stronger.
>We’ve now had large scale attacks hitting the likes of WHM, DarkMarket and apparently some other services, although I cannot really confirm any others.
>I’d like to outline the main issues with this here. Firstly, /u/Paris and /u/mr_white ‘s work on /d/EndGame has been amazing and has allowed us to all have some really good filtering processes to limit malicious traffic from hitting the application layer and dropping their connections for v3’s where possible. Along with our collective knowledge of the attacks since February 2019, we have some very solid configurations that allow us to scale enough to stay ahead of the attacks and continue scaling alongside it. This is the absolute best protection we as service operators can currently provide and it works, but at many costs.
>We’re not really any closer to seeing a Tor PoW implementation that will seriously improve the situation, but the position we’re in with our own developments is a hell of a lot better than when this all started. There are things I haven’t disclosed publicly because of the potential for abuse, but a lot more worrying things have come from these attacks, costs that aren’t of the monetary kind. The seriousness of the attacks’ will probably become clear at some point. Consequences for Markets
>Consequences for Markets I am aware of at least 2 markets that have paid for attacks against other markets within the last few weeks. I also know of one wishing to pay for retaliation attacks.
>This behavior from market admins is absolutely unacceptable and it will not be tolerated. You have [b]no idea[/b] of the ramifications this has, it is way beyond just taking your competitor offline, inadvertadly, but you are causing a problem that is a great deal worse without even knowing it, if market admins wish me to disclose these other issues to them, they can contact me directly and you will soon rethink your poor business strategy.
>– From here, there will be extreme consequences for any Market admin found to be funding attacks against any other service, market or not. You know who you are and I won’t publicly out you here for it, for the time being.
>Any Ads/other promotional material will be indefinitely disabled You may have your Subdread banned You will be delisted from Recon You will be delisted from DDF Most importantly, your own service will be attacked. This is where it ends, I’m not sitting through another storm of attacks.
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>An explanation of the attack from Paris, the co-admin of Dread.
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>>791
Tor died when the original silkroad did. It's just government run bullshit.
>>1104
Are there visit-worthy websites on any of these?
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>>1754
Do your own research on dark.fail
>>1754
Do not talk about /site/
DO NOT TALK ABOUT /site/

The reason Alt 'nets keep going dead or glownigger is because of open chatter. Remember the Rulez. We need them now more than ever.
>just use v3 goy
truly visionary

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Have you've ever tried to test pit an prototype or other lesser known OS.
Use
https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems
And download one that sounds great. 
I don't know use a WM or something.
Tell in this thread what was your experience with it and what do you think of it and the pluses and minuses
You van also use other sites for more OS.
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>>2694
Mice are aids unless you're playing vidya or video/image editing. There are 4 modifiers and maybe 50 keys minimum on an average keyboard. Shortcut space is effectively free even when you take into account the de facto standard of shift for capital letters, super for WMs, and ctrl+meta for important OS things like switching ttys
>>2920
Good effort and nothing wrong with it, but it should be apparent to anyone wanting to create a new general purpose OS that a monolithic kernel design is probably not the best path to take anymore. Ideally it should use a microkernel with very stable API, small code size, and well scrutinized. There will be a need to support legacy applications, as they are, without an expectation to significantly modify their code base. Running applications this way is less efficient than applications designed to run natively, but it is also inefficient (at a macro level) and unrealistic, to port all legacy applications to a new system design.

A new GP OS needs to function more like a type 1 hypervisor,  Qubes OS is like this, but it uses systemd Linux for the administrative domain and seems to put much emphasis on information compartmentalization, probably more than most users need. For a GP OS, using something similar to Plan9, with FS namespaces/union control and P9 protocol to facilitate data access between applications.
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>>3458
Sounds like something like this could be done by running Xen on DragonflyBSD. What do you think of something like that?
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>>3889
correction: What about running NVMM on DragonflyBSD
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>>3890
They are pretty much similar. But this gp os already exists, browsers.

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>he saw the problem decades in advance.
Truly, a man like no other.
Aren't portions of all C compilers, aside from tcc, lost to time and you can only bootstrap them beginning from certain pre-compiled versions of themselves? When talking about other languages, a lot of them started with C as the ground base so you'd need to check that as well. This shit is making my head hurt.
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>>3871
Intel ME taught me to distrust my fucking CPU. Even hand-written assembly compilers won't cut it.

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>try to search something on an invidious fork
>as per usual, it doesn't work
>end up needing to search on invidio.us and open every link to see which fork is working today
Is this because of Jewgle's mischief or host incompetence?
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>>3529
Fuck off white knight.
In the last few days there are more and more strange posts, at this point it can't even be a bot since bots learn from users. Did a eceleb advertise the webring on insta or something? 

I use iteroni.com and i don't remember it being down much.
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>>3531
The variety of strange posts seems to be coming from different people at different time. It may be just a number of newcomers making 1-2 posts.
Also use pipe-viewer.
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>>3532
How is pipe-viewer related to what i said?
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>>3533
pipe-viewer with invidious api tries all known instances automatically.

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>invest in an expensive mechanical keyboard because if I'm typing on it all day anyway then it might as well be the best I can get
>find a keyboard with "speed silver" switches because supposed to be quiet and I hate pressing the keys very deep down
>turns out the fucking brick is thicker than your mom and I have to bend my hands up in an awkward way
>keys activate at like 20% the way down, which means you have literally no physical feedback whatsoever for when it activates
>need to press the keys almost a whole centimeter before it's at the bottom
>loud as fuck "clack" sound if the key hits the bottom
>the fucking keys are laid in a niggerlicious concave curve where I need to lift my fingers higher to press the key above the current one
I've literally never touched a keyboard that felt worse to use, this thing cost like $200 or something. I could have gotten one for cheaper but this was the only one of it's type that didn't have disco lights all over it. Speaking of which, it's almost impossible to find a mechanical keyboard that doesn't bleed rainbow lights out of it's ass, some of them even advertise themselves as having "blinding lights".

Are mechanical keyboards the biggest meme in computers? I've used a flat chiclet keyboard (
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>>3255
Testers for some of the worst switches that you can get, and then picked the worst one of those.
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>>3258
With a few more dollars I can get myself a nice silent mouse and keyboard combo, wireless via dongle or bluetooth. Take care of your wallet anon.
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>>3261
You could get a piece of shit. One that wouldn't last very long.

>wireless
>bluetooth
Shameful.
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>>3262
My cheap ass dongle wireless mouse works perfectly fine even after I hit it with a hammer, never lag once. Don't know about Bluetooth but I have only had bad experience with that. Not a problem though because they usually have both options now. Next time I would like to buy a rechargeable one so I don't have to waste money buying battery every 3 months.
>>3261
>>3255
>being this poor

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is this really what sex will be like in the future?
INTERGALACATIC TACTILE DATA FUCK
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>>2908
Wat?
Speed running the Net for cybersexual encounters?
None of this looks very comfortable or sexy. Add in some disgusting biotech faggotry and you could pass this off as a Cruelty Squad shitpost.
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>>2988
Probably on par with sticking a Nintendo light gun in a pussy / ass and repeatedly pulling the creaky, springy trigger.
>>2988
It's supposed to be thanking the docs you see.
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>>2888
There's little PC hardware or software in the mag. Most the ads were for phone sex. The highlights I found were an electric male masturbator described to feel like "fucking a latex jellyfish", an anarchist BBS that glowed brighter than 8kunt, and pic related.

>>2908
This could have been predicted by anyone who spent any amount of time on AIM or IRC. It used to be that normal people made fun of creeps pretending to be little girls, but now the lunatics are running the asylum.

>>2911
Not in the land of the free yet, but if you want actual interactivity there's going to be a creepy tranny on the other end of the line. You might like this from the old /agdg/ though: https://viva-project.org/

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Holy, Holy, Holy. Powered by IBM. Technology, that humanity can rely on.
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>>2638
powered by Allah™
>>2637
You can install Gentoo on it and use it as a slow terminal.
>>2638
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>>2637
>unique, by today standards
<not run Intel Management Engine
<not run AMD PSP
<not run Intel AMT 
<not run System Management Mode
>>2626 (OP) 
Z, the other white me- Q!

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This board desperately needs a CSS thread. Why the fuck have none of the retarded board owners given themselves custom spoilers? Why the hell do no boards have custom load bars? I had both of these on fatchan because a nice fellow made them for me when I requested it to Tom but Tom had better shit to do. As far as I can tell that's the only board on JSchan to have ever had custom spoilers or loadbars. What's your fucking excuse? Bunch of shitbird elitist faggots on this site can't even figure out custom spoilers. You're fucking plebs. Either kill yourselves or get in this thread and figure out how to do it for your boards on this site.
Also general CSS but I really wanted to stress that fuck you idiots you're slow and stupid.
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>>1981
What exactly is the problem with js besides 'bloat'? Or is that the only remittance? When does the bloat become a problem? If you ask me, the bigger consequence are those shitty new websites which require you to scroll a million times to get to the bottom of their embarrassingly cookie-cutter web pages.
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>>1982
web 3.0 bad
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>>1982
Are you serious?
It's literal malware. Niggers inject arbitrary code onto your machine which you execute. You're literally running every fucking executable on the internet what the fuck nigger.

It's also a terrible language that can't be made to not be a horrible mess so even if what you were being served was open source (good luck parsing that shit yourself though it's endless copypasta of a million libraries poorly implementing the same thing) it'd be trivial for a hostile actor to obfuscate the fact that what they're serving you is malware, because there are a hundred thousand bugs and unintended consequences in javascript's implementation.
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>>2002
Not defending js, but isn't saying it is malware a bit far? The language itself isn't, but it is prone to vulnerabilities like you said.
>>393
>>393
>You can also put !important after the value to override any other styles.
Did not know this, thanks anon

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This is a uBlock Origin filter list that removes shit like BLM banners from sites. PRs or patches (just post here) are welcome, it's pretty barebones right now.
https://github.com/1000xEngineer/blacklist/
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>>1268
>>1274
Icebergs sound jewish.
>>691 (OP) 
I don't get this meme. What was the function supposed to do, and how did it get ruined by context free grammar?
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BLOAT
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>>799
This. I want to know who the enemies are.
>>1352
making an adhoc formal language by using a regex function instead of just using a  formal language  to begin with

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