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Meta-Thread: >>190
'Useful programs'
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications

'Wikis'
4/g/ Wiki
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/
8/tech/ Wiki
https://wiki.cloveros.ga/Main_Page (link dead)
Linux distro wikis (can apply to all distros)
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

'Tech article sites (need to add more)'
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://digdeep4orxw6psc33yxa2dgmuycj74zi6334xhxjlgppw6odvkzkiad.onion/ ]
https://spyware.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://spywaredrcdg5krvjnukp3vbdwiqcv3zwbrcg6qh27kiwecm4qyfphid.onion/ ]
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I think this is big enough deal to merit pulling it out of the 'news' page into its own thread. If you don't know what's going on, a bunch of states have pulled a fast one on us and are trying to/have passed age verification laws in various states in the U.S. on the operating system level.
- Lunduke's Journal has been having a spree providing updates on it ( lunduke.substack.com )
- I made my own page to try to keep track on what you can do. Please think about sharing it (or something): https://websitereview.neocities.org/ageverification
- Reclaim the Net has a campaign trying to counter it https://reclaimthenet.org/age-verification
- The EFF has a campaign https://www.eff.org/issues/age-verification .
I've included some minor links suggested by >>18007 and >>18008 . Please keep in mind I'm a moron and don't know what I'm doing, but felt something should be done here. Please share your own sites, updates, and thoughts on the situation.
THANK YOU F
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>>19300
>normies
The proper terminus technicus is normalfag, and if you really need them that much then you are one of them, so enjoy being a corpo slave.
>>19299
I've been using discord via tor (as proxy) without any issues despite constant IP hopping. Now if you have to logout regularly, that's going to be a problem. Modern tech is designed for retards who can't be trusted with their own passwords, so every new login triggers a bunch of verification checks.
>>19300
>if we can't bypass that shit, what do?
Try harder, if you can't, you're the normie.
Proposed Age Verification on the OS level for the entire U.S.:
https://reclaimthenet.org/senate-bill-would-put-age-checks-in-every-us-operating-system
>it'Ll gEt REJecTeD iN tHe COurTS!
You guys are a psyop to stop resistance to the bill.
>>18011 (OP) 
test

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Thread dedicated to Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
(but are worth asking)

Before asking a question here, please search the web first or put in effort towards answering your own question. If you put in effort but you still can't find the solution, feel free to ask here.

If you are looking around for useful applications/programs, see >>531
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>>19352
I think Linux Mint is the new go to for people who just want a no frills desktop, but over the years I went off the deep end into esoteric orthodox interface solutions, so I am really not the best anon to ask. There's also Devuan and Open Mandriva, but I've never tried them.
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>>19354
Yeah, Linux Mint tends to be the go-to there. It has systemd, and Nemo really sucks at loading image thumbnails quickly for whatever reason, but it just werks well enough that it's the normalfag standby for a reason.
As for Devuan, my current setup works okay-ish. Wifi printing works out of the box, but dipping into the backports for newer graphics drivers causes issues sometimes, and I currently can't upgrade a couple key mesa components without removing mesa-va-drivers and mesa-vdpau-drivers for some reason.
(Non)Guix has been tempting lately.
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Not a super technical question, but I have a drawing tablet that had these rubber things attached with some sort of glue to the back so it doesn't slip, but over time the glue on them has gone bad and all but one fell off and I lost them. If I want to look for and buy new ones, how are those things even called?
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>>19357
"Adhesive electronics feet" should get you in the right storefront online.
>>19350
I went distro-hopping after Ubuntu announced the AI stuff, wasn't happy with the landscape, and came back to Ubuntu MATE. Same feeling, I just needed something that works with most hardware (and usable on a low spec machine).

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Firefox 152 ships JpegXL for the first time ever in regular builds.
It's still behind a flag but that will probably change soon. (about:config image.jxl.enabled)
In Chrome too: chrome://flags/#enable-jxl-image-format

We won in the end and Google and their cocksuckers at Mozilla bent over when the PDF Association made JXL their standard.

How do we get imageboards to finally allow uploading .jxl?
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Boy howdy, do I love image formats. I sure hope other anons like them too.
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>>19346
>when the tactics are innovative.webm
>>19339
I thought you were worried about speed. Then why use a wasm library? It will be slower. libjxl has a C ABI. Why not use that? Ffmpeg also supports jxl. If you use it anyway why not just let ffmpeg handle it?
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>>19348
>libjxl has a C ABI. Why not use that? Ffmpeg also supports jxl. If you use it anyway why not just let ffmpeg handle it?
That's the idea. If I'm going to rewrite the code to handle the thumbnail encoding in ffmpeg in the future, it would be nice to see benchmarks of jxl, avif and webp to see if it's worth starting the work early.
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>>19353
>it would be nice to see benchmarks of jxl, avif and webp to see if it's worth starting the work early.
You'd be better run a test with command line tools on your own data.

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Discuss /tech/-related news.
What will happen if section 230 is nuked?
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>>19228
It's just clearnet DNS fuckery, the onion hasn't dropped once.
https://github.com/isene/frame
Some faggot asked a chatbot to write an X11 server in x86 assembly. Which is all kinds of horrible, but still better than Wayland.
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>>19275
>asm
Interesting
>no gpu hooks
Silly
>>19275
Wayland is great. You're retarded.
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>>19285
Fantastic argument, you've just convinced me to switch to wayland+systemd+uutils and own the fascists.

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removing boomers from the internet would solve all its problems

on the turn of the century we all used the internet as teens. we all had msn and icq, maybe irc. we all knew how to browse and make websites. run emulators, download music. use forums. download pr0n. say niggerfaggot. play video games. maybe write code

we knew not to follow advice from the internet. not to run random .exes. we were 10-14.

then the boomers came, around 2010. before that they didnt even know what the internet let alone a computer is. they saw that teens are using the internet
>NOOOO my kidderinos gonna see the forbidden fruit!!
they saw that instant messaging exists
>NOOOO my kidderinos gonna talk to a stranger
they saw websites
>NOOO its about something i dont like MAKE IT ILLEGAL MAKE IT ILLEGAL MAKE IT ILLEGAL
they saw that their son could make a website
>NOOOOO you dont have a license
they saw their son emulate a game that has been out of sale for 40 years
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>>19280
I'm trying to find the source (journalists absolutely suck for not linking where they get their statistics from), but if you search the topic, you get a fuckton of news articles from over the years pondering why Eurofags drive way more manual transmission cars than Americans. It's a crazy difference if they all aren't lying, as supposedly Eurofags went from 80% manual transmissions in the early 2000s to "just" ~30% a couple years ago, whereas an abysmal 0.7% of burger vehicles on the road are manuals.
>>19280
>Americans own more cars and drive more than Europeans
True, bigger population, a lot of roads, big brands and factories.

>>19276
>The average car is made under the assumption the average driver is functionally retarded
Proving the point that most drivers in the world are Americans, the target consumer.
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>>19276
>The average car is made under the assumption the average driver is functionally retarded...
That can't be true. The average car has heating and air conditioning, which the average yuropoor has not yet figured out the mystery of despite decades of dying from lack of both.
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>>19279 
A couple things to note about that. In comparison to the US, in the EU both road and rail are wholly overshadowed for share of cargo ton-miles by the inherent geography of deep seacoast penetration and crisscrossing inland waterways that the more  US lacks:
https://theicct.org/toward-a-greener-global-freight-transportation-system-oct25/
Also, while pickups/SUVs are less popular in Europe than the US, they are also less necessary. Cars (sedans, coupés, hatchbacks, stationwagons, etc.) overwhelmingly favoring manual trannies in the European market are rated comparably to a light truck or better in terms of towing capacity, whereas in the US this feature went extinct (due to regional differences of both mechanical and regulatory nature) in the 1980s, just in time for the burgerlard pickup/SUV conspiracy:
https://www.dieselarmy.com/features/why-is-it-diesels-can-tow-more-in-europe-than-in-the-us/

>>19289
Asked a chatbot about this out of bemused curiosity and:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_air_conditioning
>The innovation was adopted quickly and by 1960 about 20% of all cars in the U.S. had air-conditioning, with the percentage increasing to 80% in the warm areas of the Southwest.
>By 1969, 54% of domestic automobiles were equipped with air conditioning
https://carinterior.alibaba.com/question/when-ac-became-standard-in-cars
>By the late 1980s, over 70% of new cars sold in the United States included factory-installed air conditioning
https://www.wardsauto.com/news/archive-wards-europe-cools-off-ac-on-60-of-new-cars-a-big-jump/763116/
>Published Sept. 1, 1999
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Ever since I switched from systemd to sysvinit because of >>18176, I find myself questioning all these nerd turf wars I explicitly have ignored.
My normal daily setup:
- systemd
- X11 (gnome)
- Pulseaudio
- Vim
- Debian
Now I find myself wondering about OpenRC, Wayland, Alsa, emacs, LUKS, Trisquel, TailOS[, and GNU Hurd]. Which of these in your experiences have been worthwhile? What's the most privacy respecting setup?
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>>18466
>https://suckless.org/sucks/
Why exactly are gcc and clang coded in c++?
>>18467
And I'll ask the follow-up myself.
If Microsoft is sabotaging cross platform UI, then why would Electron not be sabotaged?
The answer is that they are already working on it.
Microsoft uses "embrace, extend, extinguish", and is now "embracing" in this area.
One example is Edge, which is also based on Chromium (the engine used by Electron), and is further focusing on this broader technology by using React Native for core components of the Windows 11 UI.
It's only a matter of time before they introduce changes that are prohibitively difficult to keep up with, and will make it a horrible experience for users and developers.
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>>18469
Another important example of MS embracing Chromium is VS Code.

Also, they might introduce changes to have more influence in Linux, for example by depending on systemd.
This way it does "work on Linux", but only if you help to give them more power, which they will inevitably abuse further on.
tl;dr for people who don't feel like wading through a book's worth of wiki pages and imageboard posts

A. glibc has maintained ABI stability for decades, sure every now and then there's a bug, but they've maintained ABI stability

B. ABI stability doesn't mean that your program will continue to work if you rely on undocumented implementation details, 

C. jeets have failed at B since before the dawn of the electronic computer, and for some reason game devs chose the hash format used for symbol lookup as the hill to die on, something a video game has no reason to care about
>>18389 (OP) 
emacs fag here, I did the opposite and checkout Vim afer 7 years and loved it. Now I use emacs with evilmode, mpv, mupdf and a vim-extension on irssi.
I messed around the runit init system on Void and have been loving it, I'm never going to systemd again.

Wayland is trannyware so I'm sticking with the boomerware Xorg. I also got rid of Pulseaudio and I manage to record video gameplay with my mic using just Pipewire+Wireplumber and Pulseaudio compatibiliy layer so that's nice.  are enough for my sound setup.

Another thing that's been worthwile for me was checking out the tiling window manager meme. Fucking life changer.

>>18392
>pic
Holy moly, now I remember the infamous blog post.
But to be fair cuckchan's emacs/LISP general is a discord troon circlejerk, although it's not as bad as the mpv/ffmpeg generals.

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How do I join?

Post:
- a link to your website
- a 240x60 banner of your website

then add the others also in the webring

I'll start:
http://lainwir3s4y5r7mqm3kurzpljyf77vty2hrrfkps6wm4nnnqzest4lqd.onion
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>>1215 (OP) 
I'm mostly lurking on this imageboard but I made a banner for another webring. This is not my personal website but I'm heavily invested into the project.

We collect high quality PDFs created from book scans, people can contribute or request a book too.

http://scriptorium.eu.org
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>>6016
>>6017
>>6160
Just stumbled on this: https://darkm000t.neocities.org/
Seems like the real deal. Looks like he's a VR Chat thot now?
>>1215 (OP) 
OP your site is down. The regular web URL is now some russian gambling domain squating bullshit.

Even so, I am actually down for making a webring or web portal. Is anyone else still interested in this stuff?
>>7261
I know that this post is 4 years old, but seriously? You sell a PDF for 30 € that is freely available on archive.org, and you even link to that file?
What kind of retards are your target audience?
https://scriptorium.eu.org/wasserscheiden/

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bitsocial might be the future of the internet being fully open source, peer-to-peer social protocol.

anyone can build their own app or launch communities on existing ones.


Your community literally cannot be banned or blocked by anyone, even a government. it solves that problem




https://github.com/bitsocialnet

https://bitsocial.net/
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<react
<NFT based authentication
into the trash it goes
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>>19226
<bittorrent
<NFT based authentication
Literally nothing wrong with that, especially now that scaling/efficiency has been solved
<react
First, it's local clientside open source software, so it's not like there's any spoopy phone home browser magic involved.

Second, that's just an implementation detail of the current reference library. The standard itself permits the API to be implemented in any language or framework.

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What is the final document format? Not text file (unformatted). I am asking for formatted text document, with tables and embedded images. What is the final solution?

Proposals:
-ODF (.odt)
-Rich Text Format (.rtf)
-HTML
-DOC (.doc)
-DOCX

Considerations:
-is the format simple, efficient, small?
-is it open source, free, or at least without patents or some other shit
-is it supported by large amount of software? for import and export
-is it malware? has hidden metadata and other shit? complex and proprietary?
-does the format allow for huge documents?
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>>7636
This is retarded.
Does your notebook have code syntax highlighting ?
Does your notebook include links ?
Does your notebook includes figures ?
Does your notebook export to HTML/PDF ?
>r-remember
Nigger I'm juggling 4 to 5 projects on average, reading several books in parallel, thinking up several ways to optimize existing stuff and constantly coming up with new scripts to automate things. Go doodle something.

>>7693
>can't alt-tab between 2 different windows
>can't use workspaces
>can't use virtual desktops
>can't use 2 screens or split a screen between 2 programs
>can't set up easy key bindings to easily naviate between windows on a window manager
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>>7441 (OP) 
Easily latex, especially for formal documents such as CVs and graphics with tikz.
>>7695
>the language that begins with L and ends with p and that is related to Emacs
Lisp?
>>19227
>code syntax highlighting
Eh. You don't need that to read non-code text unless you have severe forms of ADHD (which, ironically, are so severe and crippling that normalfags usually don't recognise these cases as ADHD), and especially not when you're reading text on a physical page.
>links
Hyperlinks actively harm reading comprehension by triggering brief focus breaks every time your brain quickly evaluates whether to follow the link or not.
>figures
You have a pencil. Draw your statistical charts yourself.
>HTML/PDF export
That's your main actual disadvantage.
>multitasking
Objectively less productive than focused work thanks to the overhead of mental context switching. It's another thing if you're interleaving bouts of focused work with short breaks and focused work on other things, as this'll help you work on problems in the back of your mind and assist with knowledge transfer, but if you're quickly jumping from one thing to another on your computer, the lost focus will ultimately mean you waste more time and depth of insight than you gain.
>>7636
Physical is the best to remember and learn, but takes a lot of space to storage with time.

>>8834
Markdown is the best for visualization, can edit anywhere and it's just a text file.
I really like Obsidian and similar apps, mostly because they are just text but you can sync, add images, etc.
The one I liked most is Anytype. Just wish it was a bit more generous with free storage, 100MB is like e-mail in the 00s.

If you really really want something fancy and fully custom just use html, it's what everyone uses and will be using for decades.
Works for mobile too. If you want it you can add fonts, Javascript, CSS and whatever you need, even server connection and APIs.
Cons - have to program and host your schizophrenic dreams on it, wasting time.

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