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Meta-Thread: >>190
'Useful programs'
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications

'Wikis'
4/g/ Wiki
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/
8/tech/ Wiki
https://wiki.cloveros.ga/Main_Page (link dead)
Linux distro wikis (can apply to all distros)
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

'Tech article sites (need to add more)'
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://digdeep4orxw6psc33yxa2dgmuycj74zi6334xhxjlgppw6odvkzkiad.onion/ ]
https://spyware.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://spywaredrcdg5krvjnukp3vbdwiqcv3zwbrcg6qh27kiwecm4qyfphid.onion/ ]
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Gulag for interesting offtopic discussions.
Try to keep it /tech/ related.
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>>16414
>does it mean that you can in fact write memory unsafe code in rust
With enough effort. These are very contrived examples not like C where you declare a variable as singed instead of unsigned and now you are suddenly copying 4GB of data into a 10 byte buffer.

>and basically everyone pushing it should be thrown into a woodchipper?
They should be woodshipped for other reasons. Like trying to infiltrate and subvert long term stable projects like the linux kernel. Or for making a language so complex that there is only 1 compiler and 1 project team who decides the fate of everybody stupid enough to use rust for anything important.
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https://jasonatwood.io/archives/2033
THIS GUY
FUCK THIS GUY in particular
always jerking off with some "lint" or other stupid metric for dumbasases fucking bullshit. i hated this guy since the very first day stack overflow was made, when faggots just wanted "make work" and no actual intellectual discussion (because THEY CANT DO THAT CUS THEY WORK IN TECH)
this guy in the 90s was an ironic geek the most cringe thing to be
they would just tape together some retarded reged based xml parsing horse shit every minute
then when its breaking, pull in some dumb fucking shit with a name like "crashlytics", which itself crashes and even if it worked 100% it would not be a net gain for the product quality
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/so-long-xorg-thanks-for-all-the-fish-hello-xlibre.98054/page-13
https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2017-October/055022.html
It looks like there was already a patch for X11 that adds HDR in 2017, it was just not merged. On that note, should we have a window manager thread? We could discuss X11 and Wayland, and also show off our cool dwm setups.
Can someone give a quick rundown of the XLibre drama?
All I know from skimming Moronigs and this board is that some Jewish-sounding X11 maintainer got fed with what he perceived as Red Hat deliberately rejecting PRs amid other things in order to artificially push muh Wayland, made his own fork and thus became the biggest Hitler in the open sores scene since Kent Overstreet and in a UNO sense byuu/Near, with Michael Larabel feebly trying to censor away the bad goy drama only to create Gamergate-esque forum discussions he didn't lock the threads unlike during the Asahi linux tranny drama for what it's worth.
Freedickstop is apparently purging every single commit the guy made as a maintainer from the standard X11 repo which according to the wise and well-established independently financed pro-vaccination advocates on Moronix is totally normal and extremely necessary since all his commits are bad code of low quality which justifies everything, clearly not a Stalinist purge now shut up and patch those out-of-tree Rust additions in the Kernel goy.
Will there be sudden, completely explainable deaths with no motives for murder?
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>>16522
>Jewish-sounding 
He is a German man noted as being doubleplusnotgood for having ”alternative views” regarding the world wars. He also posted in a Linux mailing list that RNA vaccines will create a new breed of humans, and that made Linus Torvalds post a very angry reply. Other than that, you've got it down, the only thing I'd add is that Lunduke is fueling the drama a whole lot simply by reporting what is going on. It is pretty much a classic upward spiral where they call a literal kike a gnadzee who then tells everyone that they are calling him a gnadzee, which then makes the trannies even angrier and so they call him a gnadzee even harder, and so on and on.

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Thread dedicated to Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
(but are worth asking)

Before asking a question here, please search the web first or put in effort towards answering your own question. If you put in effort but you still can't find the solution, feel free to ask here.

If you are looking around for useful applications/programs, see >>531
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I heard that SD cards are bad for long-term archival because they can suffer spontaneous corruption over time. Could I cope with this by using something like a zfs mirror across 2 cards and doing periodic scrubs?
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>>16513
>over time
Pretty sure as long as you aren't living in extreme conditions and keep it in a case or aren't using it for something dumb like games it should be fine.
>SD card will last around 10 years  better than average hard drive
What exactly do Fedora devs get out of dropping 32-bit support? Other than losing users from them not supporting Steam. I know they're talking about a year from now and it's unlikely to be dropped really.
I have high doubts that Valve will release 64-bit Steam any time soon.
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>>16519
As far as I understand, they are a bunch of corp trannies who'd rather devote their working hours to jacking off to Marxist bullshit than actually do some real work. Dropping some libraries here and there can definitely free up a whole lot of time to go to conferences where they can speak about why we need Maoism in free and open source software.
>>16519
there is rumor that even debian will drop i686 support soon. so far we only left handful of choices to revive old hardware. unironically fucking gentoo and obscure shit like netbsd

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It'd odd how there doesn't seem to be a thread for them here, despite them being the most common technology in the world for many years now, that people can't seem to live without, it's a necessity nowadays.

What smartphones do you use, /tech/ anons?

I just got a Samsung Galaxy A25 as a birthday gift from my sister, it's the 1st time I've used one with 8GB RAM and a 120Hz refresh rate and I have to say, I thought people were dramatic over refresh rates for no reason, that it wasn't a big deal, but damn! I love just how smooth it is now, can't see myself going back to a 60Hz or even 90Hz screen after this one. It's also got a headphone jack and micro SD slot, rare today.
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I'll buy a smartphone when someone makes one that lasts more than 2 weeks on idle and isn't bigger than my face.
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>>16506
*whose battery lasts more than 2 weeks on idle
>>16494
Because they are borderline offtopic for /tech/ board, as you can't actually do anything tech related on them.
You can put tits on your smartfridge but it won't make it tech related, unless you hacked it to do that.
>>16506
But modern phones already do a week of standby lol (probably more with custom rom and right settings), unless I misunderstood what you meant by idle.
https://nanoreview.net/en/phone-list/endurance-rating
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>>16508
>unless I misunderstood what you meant
Yeah you did. 1 week is not "more than 2 weeks".
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>>16514
based pedant

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 HELP COCK.LI 

> You don't need anything but an Internet connection to use cock.li. If all you had was a library card you could use a public computer to get an e-mail account. It's a strange thing to say about a joke website, but cock.li improves access to services for marginalized people globally, without connecting into some corporate system.

> I've never got so much laughter out of anything in my life than my time here. It's not even close. The funniest e-mails I've ever read were sent on cock.li, some of them to me directly. I'm the worst at responding, but I read every e-mail you send me. Every password reset request, every schizo ramble, every question, every story.

> Vincent Canfield

The email provider cock.li is facing legal difficulties to keep the services running.

Vincent, the creator and administrator for over 2 decades has asked for donations to help with the recent challenges. He and his team have provided the service free of charge all this time. Now it's time for us to provide something in return.

Daily updates about the situation will be available at:
https://cock.li/index.asc.txt

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>>16499
Ok, I'm not gonna bother helping you.
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>>16501
I don't want your nigger help. The only way you can "help" is by fixing the concept of email itself because the problem is with email, not with something incidental to me. It's not a coincidence that 99% of people log into google.com for their email instead of using an email client, and if they do use an email client then they'll immediately be greeted with a big fucking niggerlicious "sign in with gmail" button on it, because otherwise nobody would use that client.

This is exactly what's wrong with FOSStards, someone complains how fucking clumsy and confusing and unintuitive something is, and you think the solution is to put users through some kind of learning camp instead of making the fucking thing better.
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>>14802
Due to sms being needed to sign up for entering sites I kinda agree with you. *entering insanity mode* It's so silly the powers that be think they're keeping people safe doing silly stuff like this. At the end of the day some serial killer is going to whipe his shoes off on some guy he had a gun on using his computer and all his information instead after it's literally impossible to be anonymous and just go to another guy's house in someone else's car. They can't stop that sort of activity but pretend some all seeing eye can when it can't actually see anything, just record and get there too late. Eventually some day in the futue the brown pill poster will be posting over some dead grandma/grandpa on his/her computer while giggling and bicycle away leaving their corpses to rot.
<oh god the Internet troll mob is here!! *looking through telescope* Close the shutters!!!! I CAN SEE THEM ILLEGALLY TRADING FILES FROM HERE
Slippery slope is slippery. They outnumber the pigs by far, criminals in general. They beg for more organized people iir rather than from afar. It's silly. And then they have to physically be there spying and we all know what happens to spies. 
>>16497
We'll return to monke after they finally make it 'impossible' to break the law anonymously. It  makes mobsters when you try that sort of thing a
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>>16502
Just use the google webmail, instead of bitching here that you're too stupid and lazy to RTFM for 2 minutes.
I was too retarded to figure out how to make squirrelmail work so I just went with Thunderbird.

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What is the final document format? Not text file (unformatted). I am asking for formatted text document, with tables and embedded images. What is the final solution?

Proposals:
-ODF (.odt)
-Rich Text Format (.rtf)
-HTML
-DOC (.doc)
-DOCX

Considerations:
-is the format simple, efficient, small?
-is it open source, free, or at least without patents or some other shit
-is it supported by large amount of software? for import and export
-is it malware? has hidden metadata and other shit? complex and proprietary?
-does the format allow for huge documents?
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>>16189
>>16189
>openxml is the corporate definition of "open".
mit license is about as open as you can get. You're not some kind of gpl cuck, are you?
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Hey Faggots,

My name is John, and I hate every single one of your formats. All of them are fat,
retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass raster images. They are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever
gotten any gopher? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your
own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than
jerking off to 3D-PDF on facebook.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the WordStar team, and starter on my text phile team. What games
do you play, other than "jack off to naked DOCX anime girls"? I also get
straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO
cash). You are all faggots who should just ed yourselves. Thanks for
listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my bitch
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Experience showed that relying on a format isn't the right solution because it would put a burden on every system to be able to read and edit that format, the solution imo would come from a markup syntax like HTML or MD for simple text. The solution has always been text. Said text should be interpreted following a syntax to produce formatted documents.
(What a tragedy that Org and MD were invented in parallel at about the same time. They have no business having separate syntaxes).

>>16193
Thanks for the nostalgia feels
>>16191
Solid bait
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>>7443
This, the final format is a latex .tex that creates a .pdf file (with links &c) containing the document.

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Discuss methods to remove >systemd.
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>>16326
Didn't FreeBSD commit suicide a while ago?
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>>16398
>Somebody would have to fork the entire OS to get away from a decision like that in such a centralized monolithic project.
To be fair, all the BSDs today exist because people repeatedly forked the whole OS.
>>16461
Elaborate.
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>>16461
No. The only problem is that there are some FreeBSD developers who don't use FreeBSD. Some of them even are Mac fags. But FreeBSD is definitely a good BSD if you need performance or ZFS. It also has large ports tree.
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>>16483
>the only problem
It is a big enough problem for me, also fags.
>>16469
>To be fair, all the BSDs today exist because people repeatedly forked the whole OS.
Well Matthew Dillon was right about concurrency but where is DragonflyBSD now. A major reason why linux dominates is because you don't need to fork the entire kernel everytime somebody decides to do something retarded like systemd.

>Elaborate.
He might be referring to the "geek feminist" Code of Conduct and Randi Harper drama that happened ages ago. That tends to be the only thing people know about FreeBSD if they get all their tech news from imageboards.

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ive always ignored my dad's insistence on Arduino on me until i started doing CS in college, where should i start? I did a little bit of soldering but i have no idea how a breadboard works, or what the fuck is grounding.
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What beginner tools are needed for soldering besides a soldering iron, flux, and solder?
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>>15637
Good pair of helping hands and/or vices
Tweezers, lots of them
Pliers
Microscope or eyeglasses if  eyes are not good
Ventilation
Depending on what you solder, hot air gun and heat shrink. In my experience, if you can use UV epoxy, it is much better
Soldering iron tips, lots of them of different sizes
A wire mesh ball to abusively clean tips
Sponge with water to quickly clean tip
Light source
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>>15638
Missed: multimeter for connectivity check
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocard_(printed_circuit_board)
>Eurocard is an IEEE standard format for printed circuit board (PCB) cards that can be plugged together into a standard chassis which, in turn, can be mounted in a 19-inch rack. The chassis consists of a series of slotted card guides on the top and bottom, into which the cards are slid so they stand on end, like books on a shelf. At the spine of each card is one or more connectors which plug into mating connectors on a backplane that closes the rear of the chassis.
It is a physical format only, so you can use whatever connectors with whatever hardware you want, and 100mm version is pretty close to standard PCI Express card sizes. A 16x PCIe connector is also less than 100mm long, so you could design Eurocards with that connector. Maybe it would be even possible to design Eurocards and PCIe cards in tandem, as the main difference would be placing the connector either at the end or at the bottom. Still, what I am really thinking about is how 10" racks are getting popular: you could make a 10" 3U PCIe-Eurocard that could be used to house anything from a large variety of SBCs to gigantic RAM cards to ridiculous SSD farms. I could see it being a hit with certain hobbyists if you turn old systems into Eurocard SBCs, so that you could plug an Amig
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is this really what sex will be like in the future?
INTERGALACATIC TACTILE DATA FUCK
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>>16470
>But I think being a c*omer all day, erry day in your sexosuit wouldn't be much of a good life (disgusting & short-lived). OTOH, having a great robowaifu in your flat with you would be!
Exactly, you need some sort of companionship too, otherwise it's g00ning2.0 - cyberpunk edition. Maybe it would be good for a Cortana-esque AI gf, but I would rather just use a handheld fleshlight with sensors than some perverse and gaudy cyberBDSM rig.
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>>16472
I think I got it from /robowaifu/, but sorry, I don't know where it is from. I fortunately do know the other ones, the one on the left is my own project, Galatea Multipurpose Companion Maid Robot v3, and the one on the right is Mechomancer's SPUD - Pringle.

Galatea Multipurpose Companion Maid Robot v3 files and instructions
https://greertech.neocities.org/Galatea%20v3.0
(yes, it does have an "adult time" slot)
>>16473
My point was primarily a psycho-bio one. If you lived your life in a bodysuit like that all day, you would very-quickly run afoul of your brain's opioid neuropeptides production levels, and your homeostasis would tank.
>tl;dr
You'd soon be a gibbering mess in your endorphines DTs by c*oming constantly. God didn't wire us for that.

OTOH, having a good proxy for a female companion -- a robowaifu -- would allow you to still function in your day-to-day life as a reasonably-healthy man, and she'd come alongside you to help you with your hopes & dreams (& chores!). Much, much healthier outcome.
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>>16475
That too. Ultimately, what is needed is loving sex, not just a digital hookup, as well as personal restraint. And I do agree, a robowaifu is better, because it's an actual physical companion inhabiting your real world, that you can cuddle and more with, plus the part you said about helping with chores.
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>>16476
This is true

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It seems that 2000's Aero Glass is finally making a comeback, and the fact that Apple's the one doing it seems to indicate this could be a new trend since companies tend to copy whatever Apple does.

What does /tech/ think of it? I personally love it!
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>>16406 (OP) 
>What does /tech/ think of it?
another one of these threads? talk about low effort, whatever apple's design department makes, does it really deserves an entire thread?
post that on the news thread.
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>>16462
Because this board is so blindingly fast and bombarded with countless new threads and posts every day so we need to cut down on them, right?
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>>16463
so, is it acceptable to trade quality for quantity? you don't have to look far to find examples of how the latter hates the former; the slowness of the board is a plus, this usually encourages some effort posting since the threads stay up longer and are read by the majority.

coming back to the topic at hand; it seems wrong to waste precious board space to talk about a purely aesthetic decision. there's only men here, let's talk about practicality and how /tech affects our lives.
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>>16465
I hate Apple, Google, Microsoft, all their spyware anti user slop is unusable, doesn't matter what UI their pajeets are shitting out. They treat users as goyim. Governments should stop them but they're basically one with Big Tech.
>>16406 (OP) 
People on 4cuck act like it's worse than syphilis, but I think it's fine, with some flaws. Once they fix the flaws, I think it will be a good trendsetter. Rather have neoFrutiger Aero than bland minimalism

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