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Imagine using PHP lmao


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'Useful programs'
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications

'Wikis'
4/g/ Wiki
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/
8/tech/ Wiki
https://wiki.cloveros.ga/Main_Page (link dead)
Linux distro wikis (can apply to all distros)
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

'Tech article sites (need to add more)'
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://digdeep4orxw6psc33yxa2dgmuycj74zi6334xhxjlgppw6odvkzkiad.onion/ ]
https://spyware.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://spywaredrcdg5krvjnukp3vbdwiqcv3zwbrcg6qh27kiwecm4qyfphid.onion/ ]
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Since the usual suspects seem to be constantly gatekeeping this while the typical corporate inbreds are trying to destroy everything it's time to have a thread and generate at least some interest and informative value on recent AI/LLM developments without any bullshit.

>Have VRAM (preferably a recent gpu)
>Anything under 8gb vram is pretty effin bad(but it's not fully over and you can still easily generate cool art though if that is your thing)
>If you are okay with slowness you can run off a decently beefy CPU and ram

LLM Agent? Do this.
>KoboldCCP
>a .gguf model from a site like 
https://huggingface.co/ 
>rtfm

Hopefully you should have a pc that can run QWEN e.g. programming aid something like Qwen2.5-Coder 

Art? Do this.
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>>16212 (OP) 
There is already an AI thread.
To add on to your post:
Get the best uncensored models here: https://huggingface.co/spaces/DontPlanToEnd/UGI-Leaderboard
Hardware wise, get x99 and dirt cheap xeon, load it with ram and either modded 2080ti 22gb, or modded 4080(d) 48gb, load everything on a mining rig. You can buy everything from china.
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>>16213
>Hardware wise, get x99 and dirt cheap xeon
NTA but I'm eyeing a X11spi Atx mobo + Xeon Gold 6138 + 128gb DDR4 RAM.
How does that compare? I think it has 2 more memory channels.
I never fucked around with server platforms. Can you overclock the RAM on those?
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>>16213
If you're talking about the offline AI thread, as the guy who made that thread, I am totally fine having a more general thread for this stuff, and rming that thread.
Atm, all I've been doing is connecting the modules together. So now I've got it set up so the bots on my offlineweb just run overnight, interacting with each other on all the different sites. I've got their memories, emotional states, etc. set up in profile jsons, and they slowly change after sleep cycles based on their site activity in the previous day.
It's been interesting, but so far the biggest improvements I've seen have been to:
- Make their "brains" dual-modeled, following a Kahneman "1 and 2" style thinking.
- Giving them emotional states that change with each act of speech.
- Of course, upping the model weight sizes.
Regarding the two model style, the Jev models are kind of interesting.
>>16212 (OP) 
>Since the usual suspects seem to be constantly gatekeeping this while the typical corporate inbreds are trying to destroy everything it's time to have a thread and generate at least some interest and informative value on recent AI/LLM developments without any bullshit.
Most of the anti-AI posts are written by bots. We got Uncle Remus Bots before returning to the Moon.
>You should also be saving some of these models, especially the historic ones, and keeping them in your digital library for safe keeping. This area moves fast and there's no telling what will happen.
I have my setup cloned onto an SD card now. Just the fact that something I'm pretty sure will be made illegal in the future I can stuff surreptitiously into a coin case and clone on a dime makes the entire concept of trying to make this "illegal" so absurd to me that I had to do it.
In other words, it's sneakernet capable.
>rtfm
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>Most of the anti-AI posts are written by bots

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Discuss /tech/-related news.
What will happen if section 230 is nuked?
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>>19757
The exact opposite is true, patches are always released first because otherwise we have this exact situation where some already know what the vulnerability is yet nobody has a fix.
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>>19758
1 person having the exploit when nobody has a fix is a lesser problem than everyone getting the exploit when people haven't even woken up to learn about it yet.
>>19755
>Take the PHP vaccine goy! nevermind we made it before the exploit became widespread!
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>>19760 LOL
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Indian certs, DO NOT REDEEM! FFS...

https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/10/the-internet-goes-on-high-alert-after-discovery-of-8-compromised-tls-certs/

https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/

>The private key sizes of the compromised keys ranged from 3 to 8 bits. Astonishingly, the private keys were 4, 56, 66, 115, 155, 156, 230, 237.

>“That is extremely in the ‘this should not be possible’ category,” Valdorda said. “Maybe some horribly dangerous key generation interface has a ‘size’ parameter and they set it to 1 by mistake???”

>Ben Cartwright-Cox, director of BGP.tools, said: “My guess is that it’s example code that accidentally leaked to production, but hard to know. But it’s bonkers that no one noticed.”

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>invest in an expensive mechanical keyboard because if I'm typing on it all day anyway then it might as well be the best I can get
>find a keyboard with "speed silver" switches because supposed to be quiet and I hate pressing the keys very deep down
>turns out the fucking brick is thicker than your mom and I have to bend my hands up in an awkward way
>keys activate at like 20% the way down, which means you have literally no physical feedback whatsoever for when it activates
>need to press the keys almost a whole centimeter before it's at the bottom
>loud as fuck "clack" sound if the key hits the bottom
>the fucking keys are laid in a niggerlicious concave curve where I need to lift my fingers higher to press the key above the current one
I've literally never touched a keyboard that felt worse to use, this thing cost like $200 or something. I could have gotten one for cheaper but this was the only one of it's type that didn't have disco lights all over it. Speaking of which, it's almost impossible to find a mechanical keyboard that doesn't bleed rainbow lights out of it's ass, some of them even advertise themselves as having "blinding lights".

Are mechanical keyboards the biggest meme in computers? I've used a flat chiclet keyboard (
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>>1043 (OP) 
>have to save money
>my keyboard stopped working
>steal my wife's old keyboard she wasn't using
>it's pink and has stickers on it
>it works so I use it
>it breaks
>have to buy a keyboard
>still want to save money regardless
>start looking into buying a new one for cheap
>find a good deal and it's a few bucks cheaper if I take a gamble on the color
>risk getting another gay pink keyboard but I have to save
>"fuck it" buys the random option and pray
>it's all black
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>he has a computer without PS/2 ports
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Does anyone here have experience with chorded keyboards? I'm considering building one myself. Aside from needing significantly less keys and perhaps requiring a single hand only it is supposedly faster for typing than a regular keyboard too (after training).
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>>19749
Are you typing for 8+ hours a day as a job? 
Or do you have some hand condition that could be improved with ergo keyboard?
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>>19750
>Are you typing for 8+ hours a day as a job? 
I do
>Or do you have some hand condition that could be improved with ergo keyboard?
My hand is sometimes stuck on my dick.

Another reason is that I'm looking to build my own hardware + OS while avoiding overly flexible/complex protocols such as USB (at least for the base OS). With a chorded keyboard I won't need to wire as many buttons.

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Thread dedicated to Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
(but are worth asking)

Before asking a question here, please search the web first or put in effort towards answering your own question. If you put in effort but you still can't find the solution, feel free to ask here.

If you are looking around for useful applications/programs, see >>531
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>>19740
We still believe that, but Linux is not a black box so there are plenty of distros that don't require you to take a systemd up your butt.
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>>19703
>the Japanese view it as a force of nature and a real Ghost in the Shell living spirit
Damn, I never thought the Japs would've had an accurate take on tech after the 2000s.
But then again I know a guy who just uses it as a porn machine so there's that.
>>19743
all three of them
then you'll end up installing it anyway as a dependency lel
I will continue using the windows operating system that I am used to using because that makes it GOOD. everything else that is different is BAD.
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I think this is big enough deal to merit pulling it out of the 'news' page into its own thread. If you don't know what's going on, a bunch of states have pulled a fast one on us and are trying to/have passed age verification laws in various states in the U.S. on the operating system level.
- Lunduke's Journal has been having a spree providing updates on it ( lunduke.substack.com )
- I made my own page to try to keep track on what you can do. Please think about sharing it (or something): https://websitereview.neocities.org/ageverification
- Reclaim the Net has a campaign trying to counter it https://reclaimthenet.org/age-verification
- The EFF has a campaign https://www.eff.org/issues/age-verification .
I've included some minor links suggested by >>18007 and >>18008 . Please keep in mind I'm a moron and don't know what I'm doing, but felt something should be done here. Please share your own sites, updates, and thoughts on the situation.
THANK YOU F
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California doing Californian things:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/08/eff-gov-newsom-veto-californias-ab-1709
Social media age verification requirements.
https://reclaimthenet.org/california-lawmakers-advance-bills-to-impose-ai-chatbot-censorship-and-age-verification
AI use age verification requirements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQRcK9nYg9g
EU Kids Act looks p. bad.
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>>19575
I've been reading reports that USAID had basically captured every single Brazilian institution. Was USAID behind the age verification shit? Does it look like Bolsonaro will maybe repeal this stuff?
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>>18013
fpbp
>>19699
>Does it look like Bolsonaro will maybe repeal this stuff?
Don't get your hopes up, neither side has mentioned Felca's law or the age verification trash in any shape or form in the past 30 days, Flavio Bolsonaro even voted in favor of it last year, its unknown what will happen next year.
There is a catch, the bureau that oversees the age verification, lootboxes and data leaks is investigating Counter Strike 2 and Genshin Impact for having mechanics similar to gambling, Bolsonaro campaign might use this as ammo, I don't know. 

> Was USAID behind the age verification shit?
Partially, it worked as a fuel that kept certain institutions active, but the ideological vision of the current administration, its branches, and their mass of maneuver is based on the elitism of Brussels, for them the EU is the peak of human civilization, a for them acting like as spoiled retards, creating retard social programs that delay civilization development and drinking expensive wine is their vision of rulership. 
It makes sense why EU kids acts >>19682 looks so draconian, everyone originally thought that China was behind it, but it is the European Union pushing this shit across the world, they are using the same strategy they used in Brazil, it is quite similar of what they did in Brazil, th
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Firefox 152 ships JpegXL for the first time ever in regular builds.
It's still behind a flag but that will probably change soon. (about:config image.jxl.enabled)
In Chrome too: chrome://flags/#enable-jxl-image-format

We won in the end and Google and their cocksuckers at Mozilla bent over when the PDF Association made JXL their standard.

How do we get imageboards to finally allow uploading .jxl?
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Is the web finally going to abandon the abominable webp and move to jxl? I read that jxl is not only better at compression but also flexible enough to be losslessly converted back to "classic" jpg if needed. That would be great if true.
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>>19651
>to be losslessly converted back to "classic" jpg
I don't think this applies to any jxl file. You can upgrade jpeg to jxl and back without introducing recompression artifacts, but it won't be as efficient as creating jxl directly from the source. Still great if you want to compress your giant photo collection or something without losing quality.
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>>19652
>You can upgrade jpeg to jxl and back without introducing recompression artifacts
That's what I meant. The benefit here is that you get to use a modern format with good compression, while still having the ability to support older software.
Chrome 155 is out now with Jpeg XL. Users will be upgraded gradually over the coming days.
https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+log/154.0.8037.99..155.0.8059.40?pretty=fuller&n=10000
It's been rolled out in both browsers by now.

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I've been toying with vibe-coding up some different really crappy locally-hosted-only websites to make offline versions of what I frequently visit online. The idea is that the entire internet is basically dead, full of bots, and doesn't let me find what I want anymore. So, if everything online is full of bots, I might as well go full Chobits mode and make my own local internet of bots to interact with.
The idea is dead simple. It all works by just using AI bots to generate content at the click of a button instead of waiting for other humans to post on a real website. So, the "offline zzzchan" I'll post there, and then when I want to "refresh the page", I'll click a buttons to generate more posts on all the boards. For the moment, I've two buttons. One is a "Simple" button, which creates really spammy obviously bot replies, but because it's using Markov chains/db calls/state references it's really cheap to generate. The other is a "dedicated" button that fully calls ollama to generate text.
The blog works pretty well also. And the Youtube replacement is in the works--at the moment, I just have it generating video transcripts/svg screenshots.
It's all relative. Like, yes, it's not great, but the idea is compared to what? The bot-generated Youtube replacement trash is at least better than the real Youtube. I also surprisingly (probably sadly) find the fake offline version of zzzchan a lot more fun to hang out in than the real one. At least so far.
Anyways, I figured I might 
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>>19648
>Motherfuckers will do anything but get out of the internet
>pick something random from the library
the library tells you to register online
>cheap stuff at garage sales
scan our qr codes
>or anything else 
join our discord or our meetup that's where we organize
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I guess I should give an offline chan update.
>Game engine
I've been working on an AI slop game generator with it. I asked it to try making the ambiance like a decaying U.S. city, and I thought it'd be awful. But it immediately made a strip mall full of Kratom shops, nail salons, and dead stores that've been for lease for two decades, and then it placed a single out-of-place shopping cart and I thought, "O.k., you fucking nailed the ambiance dude."
>Chan
I'ven't messed with it a whole lot. I've kind of been more preoccupied with the music/image generators. I've had to do a lot of stuff to get the music generator to work (it's awful at multi-part harmonies or anything above a tempo of 60 bpm, without some kludgy hacks). What surprises me the most is that the bot channers are actually way more mean that you guys are. The bot channers are so incredibly dismissive of anything you say, that it's almost more effective to employ reverse psychology.
>Story editors
I'm trying to make a better story engine atm. It's having trouble writing a standard 3-act play without losing the plot.
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>>19692
In general, it's been an interesting process, because what I learn from one project, I can immediately apply its improvements to the others.
I've finally been able to fit Gemma 4 12B model on my equipment, and it's like light and day.
It just occurred to me that I could take this entire project that doesn't need any internet access, including the model weights, and bundle it into one SD card.
I think this is interesting because it kind of puts all the people calling to regulate AI on blast. Good luck regulating something I can put in my coin bag or stuffed into the sole of my sneaker.

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Please please tell me, that something (hardware and/or software) somewhere, operating system and everything else from web browsers to video editors, anywhere in the foul year of our lord >2020, THAT IS NOT EITHER OF THESE TWO EXTREMES THAT ARE STARTING TO MAKE ME SEE THE POINT OF ECOTERRORISM BEING LESS INSANE THAN ALL THE OTHER POLITICAL GIRLS:

1) Bloated kludgeware tire fire trashheaps slapped together (I am beyond fed up with linux and open sores freetardation in general) by either cringy trannies or cringy nadsee larpers but I can pick and choose my poison to try and carefully avoid both kinds of collectivist authoritarian "YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE!!" and "YOUR'E NOT A FUCKING WHITE MALE!!" (both are equally gay, two sides of the same slacktivist coin, both of you blow your brains out since I'm sick of both of you blowing each other way outside your containment quarantine shitpits of purity spiraling echo chamber circle jerks, there is no escape from terminally online politislopsuckers) being shoved down my throat at every turn (which is getting more and more difficult to get away from in the digital world: as enshittification, the competency crisis, and the neo-bolshevik long march through the institutions infects every corner of everywhere (the world owes Joseph McCarthy, Richard Nixon, and Ronald Paul an apology!); what happened to hobbyists being proud of their passions? what happened to "coupla dudes in a garage" gigageeks outclassing paid professionals like
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Thank you fellow victims of decades of glowing rectangle induced pseudoautism to escape the even worse brain damage of bell curve outlier something-something forced integration buzzword salad. Have some basic neoluddism meems for your trouble.
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>>19464
Honestly pining for living among the pines, no joke.
>>19522
Sadly the artist has not posted anything on Pixiv since 2017.
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Remember when halfway decent alternatives to [insert big name vibe-coded kludgy bloatware product/service because shit floats to the top of the digital diarrhea lake that is modern computing] weren't gatekeeping themselves with ten-thousand captchas a second so if the least shitty option was a little too fucky, you could try another that didn't suck even harder like six gorillion "some bored tweenager who takes regular dumps on Github in between restocking cigarettes at a gas station in Rednecktopia, Utah?" to piss on your parade until you throw your hands up at the several-dozenth freetarded open sore and just gb2/[insert big name vibe-coded kludgy bloatware product/service because shit floats to the top of the digital diarrhea lake that is modern computing]?
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>>19712
I remember when people could make a clear point without trying to force as many buzzwords as possible into their post.

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Seemed like it would be a good idea for users both old and new.

[Materials to avoid]
Codecademy and other flashy looking sites (KhanAcademy might be okay)
"fishy" Youtube videos such as those from FreeCodeCamp
"Learn X in 24 hours/three days!"
Anything that deviates too far from a specification (Very obvious if you're reading a spec. in parallel with a primary learning resource)
Most blogs, especially anything on Hacker News that isn't being written by someone obviously trustworthy and/or qualified

[Searching]
You should use a metasearch engine. Not only are they better for your privacy, but I've observed better results than single engines like DDG or Yandex.
https://searx.space/
Bookmark 3-4 reliable instances at the top of your browser and rotate between them or use an add-on such as LibRedirect.

Hacker News has lots of developers and skilled people posting on it. If there's a particular project/idea you're interested in its worth looking it up with their search engine.
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>>17778
>not keeping your own flock of geese to cut dip quills from
ISHYGDDTSMHfam
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>>17779
>Having to dip your feather in ink every paragraph while the ink in the well dries up.
>Feather tickling your hand and reducing focused vs machined ergonomic handle
>using what is discarded as trash from a bird

Might as well go back to using punch cards.
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>>17781
>gives papercuts
>isn't human-readable
>holes compromise structural integrity
This is why I scratch messages directly onto surfaces with my fingernails or a spare arrowhead.
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>>17775
As great as these learning materials are so far, I'd also like to see a thorough curriculum that deliberately rejects every kind of artificial intelligence tool and any large language model since there's already plenty of pushback from places like KDE, Codeberg, Debian, and the FSF. I can't learn from just lurking nor discussing through forums anymore.
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>>19698
Thankfully the LLM-specific stuff on that site is more about the side of developing it than using it, but I too would prefer if it wasn't present at all. At least the rest of the material remains useful in projects which reject LLMs.
What I'd really like is something that isn't just a polemic or activism against AI, or an attempt to pretend it doesn't exist, but an actual response which practically addresses why AI is used.

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