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'Useful programs'

4/g/ Wiki
8/tech/ Wiki
https://wiki.cloveros.ga/Main_Page (link dead)
Linux distro wikis (can apply to all distros)

'Tech article sites (need to add more)'
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://digdeep4orxw6psc33yxa2dgmuycj74zi6334xhxjlgppw6odvkzkiad.onion/ ]
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What is even a good email provider to use anymore?
>inb4 selfhost your email
most info taken from: https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/email.html
probably incomplete quick list, but you could read the dippity dopper article for more information

<gmail, yahoo, etc.
>big corpo trash
>sells data to 3rd party advertisers
>Shady metadata policy (retained for an indefinite amount of time)
>URLs in onion hidden service site point to the clearnet (information is from 2019, cannot reconfirm as the hidden service never loads as of the time writing this)
>Account creation verification blocks some email domains from being used to verify the account (Riseup and possibly cock.li domains for example)
>Doesn't allow usage of your own PGP keys and forces their private keys generated on their servers instead through a JS web interface, many backdoors
>Requires to use their stupid bridge thing for mail clients, possible backdoor
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You worry about too much shit man.

Just rent a server froom literally anywhere (vultr chicagovps virmach linode rackspace etc), and use a free dyndns service.

If you mess up who cares. Format and move on.
Found out about this one:

It's a paid service ($15/month or $100/year). They don't support cash via mail unlike Posteo, but they support crypto, including Monero. TOS and Privacy Policy doesn't seem too bad and they encourage you to GPG encrypt your emails.
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>>95 (OP) 
In short there is no so thing as an Email client that doesn't suck so pick your poison OP. I personally use Proton, yeah I know it glows but it's a way better alternative to Goolag/Alphabet inc and convenient. Also Email is literally an invention of the US Military, non of them are truly private, some are just less private than others that's what it was created for and frankly it's an obsolete Cold War dinosaur given all the phishing scams you can get away with using it if your a piece of shit who's allergic to honest work.

If you want to message friends/acquaintances more privately then use something other than Email, Signal from what I hear is pretty user friendly and that is important for getting the non tech savvy to use it as an alternative to Whatsapp.
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the internet itself was made by the us military
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Yeah but today's military isn't the same as 50 years ago. Now it's all full of woke trannies, just like in big tech. If you can resist the brainwashing, then you're already ahead of them.

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Gulag for interesting offtopic discussions.
Try to keep it /tech/ related.
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Fuck that's cool. What do you need to learn to hack electronic gadgets like that? Right now this looks like magic to me.
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What is it with autists and Fag Apple?
Anyways, that's a pretty cool video, but enormously pales in comparison to the magic of this guy https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IehwV2K60r8
>What do you need to learn to hack electronic gadgets like that? Right now this looks like magic to me.
Documentation (online), EE knowledge, and low-level programming experience. Its based on an MOS 6502 processor (specifically, something in the 65C02 family). Very popular CPU with no shortage of documentation https://visual6502.org/
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you fags  need to stop using boards wrong  or just get rid of b and v and now tech too? Also avoiding the letter on a site with no g proves ur ill after all this time after 8 died
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2hu is the modern Lena
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b is unusable with the stupid captcha, most of the time it doesn't even work right.

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Discuss /tech/-related news.
What will happen if section 230 is nuked?
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I'm not a normalnigger, I don't have a phone, and I refuse to run anything written in Java.
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MS uses their own 2FA algorithm that requires their Authenticator app. EEE at its finest.
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How do I use this with Github?

Could you elaborate on that?
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which part? MS has their own 2FA algorithm that only their Authenticator app supports. And you should know what EEE is.

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We talk all the time about our preferred operating systems, programs, and window managers, but how do you think software affects people beyond productivity? Can an operating system push people towards creativity or make them lazy? Can chat protocols or different kinds of message boards shape how people think and act? Does using a window manager or the raw virtual console benefit you as a person more than suffering through Gnome Shell? Or are all our software choices just personal tastes that don't affect anything?
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>have multiple frames of input lag that is almost always due to the engine, which is almost always UE4.
Is UE really that bad?
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I'd like to know if any /tech/nicians had worked with UE can attest to this. I worked with UE4 in the past, but I never got very far due to inexperience, the lack of meaningful tutorials that taught you how to use the damn engine, and just how confusing the entire process/system was.

I mean, I shouldn't expect it to work like gamemaker or construct, but damn, so many pieces to get shit working.
Read it again, he specifically mentions Apple 2 and how they feel more responsive than any modern shits, even though their CPU have less transistors than modern keyboard. xD
And that's before even bringing in the lag of modern terminal emulators. It gets even more shitty than just the keyboard.

I never played any modern games, so whatever. But still, reaction time in arcade systems can't have lag. Emulators of course are shit and keep getting shittier on their own, in addition to the shittiness introduced by modern hardware and OS.
>muh input lag
>no mention of Redditarch's runahead
It's one of the few good things the libretro trannies have put into their bloated nigger frontend, its AoT execution method may be a meme but it werks provided you have enough computer.
On that note, how much of a shitshow is MiSTer in regards to input lag when using actual system-appropriate input devices via SNAC?
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I wouldn't buy the MISTer tbh. At that price I'd just get the real thing and be done with it. Either is pretty expensive right now, ever since the retro bubble happened (I guess youtube videos started this shit?) But since there's an economic meltdown coming, maybe I'll have opportunities to finally get some real 1980's gear. Been stacking silver bigly, so my savings will remain intact no matter how many banks go under.

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Repost of the Julay /tech/ sticky with some minor edits: https://archive.vn/znAXT
Beginner Info
If you would like to try out GNU/Linux because of https://itvision.altervista.org/why-windows-10-sucks.html, you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine (preferably using KVM or Oracle VirtualBox for newfriends).
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything (keep in mind that the performance of live distros might be very different than from distro that was booted from your HDD, as most distros are loaded in RAM and don't include the proprietary drivers for NVIDIA GPUs or up-to-date Mesa libraries in their isos).
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows (make sure to install Windows first, as it can "replace" GRUB or other UNIX bootloaders, and troubleshooting of Windows replacing your bootloader of choice might be painful for people that just started learning about the Linux kernel)
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux (you really shouldn't do this, if you don't know what you're putting yourself into, see: https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html).

Use your web browser and search engine of choice. Good comparison between them is hosted here:
If not sure which browser to choose, just use the Tor Browser Bundle:
or paste these commands to your terminal emulator of choice (please make sure to first learn what they're exactly doing):
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salix is comfy

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>whats NOT a globohomo OS loader

Even the ones that aren't are being corrupted as we speak. Void dropped LibreSSL because some fag who browses reddit, 4chan, and has a twitter; claims he's asexual, and signed the anti-Stallman manifesto said "it's a meme," agitated against it, and eventually sent them a PR to remove it. He's a member of void who goes by q66 and is behind a lot of gay ops like this. I've had the misfortune of interacting with him many times. The distro also has at least 1 tranny in the core team, I haven't checked again in recent years to see if anybody else trooned out.

Yet Void is one of the best distros.

Other than that, you have stuff like Gentoo.
Recently, the author of PolyMC (a Minecraft launcher) decided he's tired of SJW shit and removed the commit access of all the SJWs he let into his project. Some trannies filed a bug report to Gentoo claiming it was a "hostile takeover" and got the package removed.

Yet Gentoo is also one of the best distros.

Slackware gave up and got systemdicked recently.

You can probably name multiple incidents like these for every good distro (no systemd, no pulseaudio, no ads, not extremely broken like Debian and Arch, etc), Linux is fucking dead, and I'm not blackpillnigger. You have those sickos actively ruining the distros and messing with the developers who made them good and getting them cancelled for saying *hugs* on IRC.
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Software attracts the most mentally ill kinds of freaks imaginable. Rich Felker of the musl project loves to suck tranny cock on Twitter (now Mastodon because muh evil Musk) and is what you'd expect from a generic brainwashed drone leftist. Jamie Zawinski of Mozilla and XScreensaver believes that covid was and still is zombie apocalypse-tier and is probably on his 12th booster by now. The Rust language is filled to the brim with trannies scattered throughout its various governance teams and has suffered enormously from drama over the years as a result.
Its not just "leftists" (Retarded political term. NPC is more apt) or trannies either. musl and previously eglibc existed because Ulrich Drepper of glibc was an enormous faggot that sabotaged the project. Eric. S. Raymond is a muh-not-a-true-hacker11!! narcissist and believes/believed in retarded shit like neo-paganism. Stallman is a useful-idiot pedophile apologist. Torvalds believes that the covid vaccines aren't full of shit and should be taken.
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Says here Slackware uses BSD init.
>sponsored by gambling houses

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Thread dedicated to Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
(but are worth asking)

Before asking a question here, please search the web first or put in effort towards answering your own question. If you put in effort but you still can't find the solution, feel free to ask here.

If you are looking around for useful applications/programs, see >>531
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here's the sauce article: https://docs.slackware.com/slackbook:booting
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I'm using grub btw. Now I only need to load a custom kernel so I can use this computer as a 15khz retro station.
I have a x86 linux box that I use as a router and also has some other services running on it, and it's completely headless (unless I go there with a display and keyboard, but I only do it when it doesn't boot). Now my problem is that sometimes it "locks up" for 5-15 seconds, and during that time you can't communicate with it in any way (ssh, http, etc), but internet routing/nat works fine during that time, so the kernel side of the things seem to work fine, only the userspace locks up somehow.
Any idea how to debug this? It only does this a few times a day, so it's not like I can easily reproduce it.
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cron a script every minute (or faster) to log load average and top 10 resource hog.
Your kernel might be tuned by average modern trannys.  Also instrument paging and /proc/cpu with your cron job.  Don't forget to give it even a little bit of swap space because a lot of VMs will shit and piss without any at all.

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I think it's worth having a thread about ARM linux as it's on the verge of becoming viable in phones and mobile devices. Discussion around whether or not this hardware is or will ever be worth actually buying is important. I understand that a lot of the PINE64 hardware is explicitly not consumer ready, but I've seen some videos of the recently officially launched Librem5 that shipped the product with a fucked screen protector that wasn't applied properly, and that's a fucking $800+ device. I'll try to get around to making a webm of it.
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I don't "compute" anything special, just regular Linux programs. The A20 is much more powerful than my first PC (a 486DX/33) so I can even run old games like Doom natively much better than I could on the 486. But I have to use a port (Chocolate Doom or PrBoom) because DOSBox is pretty slow on ARM. In fact it's not worth playing most later DOS games for that reason, but older ones from the 80's generally run fine. And I can run most 8-bit emulators well, except for C64 because VICE emulator wants GPU  and/or SDL2 for some reason. But that's not essential to me, as most 8-bit games got ported to multiple systems, and I can usually just use an Atari 400/800, MSX, Amstrad, Speccy, or MSX. In fact, even Atari ST and Amiga games work well on here, but I have to use e-uae instead of more recent Amiga emulators (since have same issue as VICE).
My favorite thing though is text games, not just text adventures but anything made with text or similar (Petscii, IBM-PC ANSI, TRS-80 glyphs, etc.)
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Uh I meant to type Apple II instead of MSX twice. But yeah, the games often got ported to several platforms.
Also, love me some BASIC! A lot of old games were programmed in it, even commercial releases.
So you want to have the simplicity of 8bit home computers back, is that your goal?
Does this ARM system fullfill this demand? It is propably still much more complicated than your 486. 

I adore that you can find enjoyment in such simplistic computer games, regardless of the technological breakthroughs and increasingly sophisticated, ever more realistic video games of our time.

I also certainly find ARM an interesting plattform, but there are just so many cheap/free x64 systems lying around that I wouldn't bother with such an overpriced system which also isn't expandable.
I also think the processing power just wouldn't suffice for my needs, especially since I use the web and vastly bloated webbrowsers. 
Do you also sometimes use it for such normalfag purposes? Did you use the ARM PC to create this post?
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I tried to use A20 as my main, but all these normalfag browser shit is just too slow on the board. The only way to do it is remote control a x64 machine with it.
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I guess my main goal is to not get sucked into the botnet, or to minimize my exposure. Long ago I had the 486 desktop computer and some more recent i386 stuff, but I left it behind when I moved overseas. Then I bought a modern shitty budget amd64 laptop and suffered through the bad keyboard and 1366x768 display until it finally broke and I could get something else. I made sure the replacement wasn't going to have ME/PSP or speculative processor, and that didn't leave me too many options.
I do in fact post here with the A20 board via old web browsers (Links and Lynx). I don't use this board to run a modern browser, because although it can it's pretty slow. Instead I have another A64 board running OpenBSD that I basically dedicated to chromium. I'd much rather not use the modern web at all, but that's not realistic, so I do my best to minimize and contain it. But I have to warn you, even A64 is pretty slow for the modern web. For me that's not a big problem because I seldom need to use it.
Otherwise uh I guess I'd be a lot happier if this was the 80's or early 90's and I had an 8-bit computer, no Internet access, and a big library full of books, boardgames (and a lot more privacy!) But those days are long gone, so I kind of have to just play pretend.

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 Discuss alternative OSes that are not Linux, Windows or Mac OSX. 
Also post your criticism of UNIX, Windows and Fag OSX design ITT.
If you want to discuss GNU/Linux distros, there is already a thread for it: >>>/tech/530
The package manager thread can be also useful: >>>/tech/4739

Some hastily written notes...
* everyone thinks UNIX (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc4ROCJYbm0) is still the state-of-art. Ignorants praise Windows, not knowing it's originally a dumbed down clone of VMS that has some patches ported from OS/2 (https://www.itprotoday.com/compute-engines/windows-nt-and-vms-rest-story). Some say that Windows is also still mainly a single-user system that emulates a multi-user system. I think we are living Higurashi tier time loop when it comes to operating systems...
 (and CPUs: X86 is relic from the times of Vaxen. ARM, PowerPC/Power ISA, MIPS, RISC-V are more modern and better. Even modern X86 CPUs converts CISC to RISC in the microcode!)
* Plan9 (9front? Also, see plan9port and 9base), BeOS (Haiku) and TempleOS were the last innovative operating systems that I know of. Even the OSDev people imitate UNIX.
* It's awful that a misbehaving device driver can take down the whole system. Microkernels (e.g. MINIX, GNU Hurd, seL4) or muh """hybrid kernels""" (e.g. DragonFly BSD, Haiku, ReactOS I don't know if modern Windows has a hybrid kernel.) should be the norm. MINIX is incidentally perhaps the most used OS because ((( Intel ME ))) uses it as a basis for the CIAware that runs on our fucken CPUs!
* Nearly all criticism of UNIX is historic stuff: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook (https://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf a joke), Multicians (https://www.multicians.org/) and LispM (http://fare.tunes.org/LispM.html) users...
* Worse is better or do the right thing? https://www.dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html & https://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html
* Some modern UNIX-related innovations: 9p, DTrace, Solaris Zones & FreeBSD Jails, Nix & Guix...

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>Avoid these
>- Microsoft Windows (it's a botnet)
What did he mean by this?
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Pliant language and FullPliant operating system
"FullPliant is a complete system written from scratch in Pliant, that relies mostly on no external code except the kernel, provides install and administration tools, various servers (database, web, mail, dns, etc), graphic stack, and fits in less that 200 000 lines of code, including Pliant dynamic compiler."

It's proprietary software and it collects data. Free software is objectively better. You should use FOSS, if you can use it to accomplish everything you need to do. If you still require proprietary software for some tasks, you should dual-boot M$ Windows and GNU/Linux (or a *BSD). Alternatively, you can use Wine or you can use a VM (and put the proprietary software in a ghetto).

To learn more:
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The current filesystems are a product of hardware. There is a physical limitation with cache locality, even the fastest data center have ram since ram is orders of speed higher than network.
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Fuck I wish alot of these operating systems listed had way more support. Other than BSD, good like trying to run a VM on any other alternatives...
The spectrum of cache locality cannot be understated, with normal on-board RAM being a great midpoint on the spectrum.  Big-O notation is all well and good, but cache locality can dominate tractability quite easily if it's swamped by the need to exit CPU cache all the time, or, god forbid hit an SSD array before and HDD array, go over the network, or even have to fetch from deeper storage for the rare case more often than it has to.
>anon how did you make this part that takes all week finish in under an hour or sometimes minutes
>well you see if you do the whole O(M*N) matrix at once then where you started drops out of the cache before you get back around to the next row
>so if you do it one tile at a time then it sits in the cache
>yeah that's even before it started swapping out because you were trying to hold the whole thing in RAM at once
>oh yeah and  it's actually O(M*N*Q*R) and the reason it kept failing out after a week is zipf's law
>so just put a limit on Q and R and discard the pathological cases, which you can see are nonsensical anyway, and now it's not dominated by N^4 behavior anyway
Smart people are smart, but if you never look at what's actually going on under the hood then it's easy 
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Have you been working on your site anon?

Discuss anything about website building such as document preparation, layout design, custom static page generation, cgi scripting. Shill your website here, post about your updates, and read other anon's websites.

Pic related. People on neocities have been using discord as a guestbook, so I decided to make an email-based guestbook for my fanfiction hobby site.
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My website is just a way of sharing information or things I've made, it's not a community or expression thing for me. Never really understood Neocities in that way.

I have been wanting/trying to make a custom imageboard for a long time but maybe that's off-topic.
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Well I didn't join neocities for community.

I made a neocities site because I saw it as more flexible and optimal than a platform if I could keep everything organized in plain HTML. I didn't care too much about real-time interactivity like retweets or likes, and I don't have to care as much about an overbearing fediverse admin having controls over my content's visibility.

I can put my blogs, photography, game screenshots, or anything that comes to mind on neocities without having to join different specialized platforms.
I used to run an obscure imageboard. I only shared it with anons I played games with. I started with else's software but got better at web dev and made my own. It was a cozy site and taught me a lot about programming. Good memories. I lost interest in it and took it down. I would enjoy working on it again but I can't justify that kind of project now. Not enough time.

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