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'Preamble.'
This is a non-fascist thread from an outsider.
I am sympathetic to fascism, but understand why we are at odds.
Fascists are fully justified in hating monarchists for Victor Emmanuel III and for Juan Carlos I.
Benito Mussolini writes.
>His treason strips him of his regalia and brands him for his individual shame, just like the traitors whom Dante assigns to the ninth circle of hell.
Benito Mussolini also writes.
>The Fascist doctrine has not taken De Maistre as its prophet. Monarchical absolutism is of the past, and so is ecclesiolatry. Dead and done for are feudal privileges and the division of society into closed, uncommunicating castes. Neither has the Fascist conception of authority anything in common with that of a police ridden State
Contrary to Benito Mussolini, this thread does analyze & make comparisons between absolutism & fascism. Our prophets are Jean Bodin & Thomas Hobbes & Robert Filmer. De Maistre is our weakest link & the black sheep of our bunch (his ultramontanism stands in stark contrast to our other prophets & De Maistre condemns Louis XIV & has certain Tocquevillist inclinations). Albeit De Maistre is within our ranks, he isn't our foremost representative. Absolutism is a general political idea, applied to each form of state and every time period. It doesn't account for only Monarchy or the Middle Ages and nowadays neofeudalists and traditional catholics and anarcho-capitalists above all others are denouncing absolutism as a political idea -- to the contrary of Benito Mussolini's words, so there is justification for proceeding with the comparison.
What fascism & absolutism have in common is the uplifting of the political.
As the Italian fasces are an emblem of the State & absolutism is from the politique faction (concerned with advancing the political good).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politique
>Bodin was a “politique,” a partisan of neither the Huguenots nor the Catholic League, who had the reputation of caring more for civil peace than doctrinal truth.
'Bodin on Wars of Religion:'
>No greater proof of a stable state exists than was shown recently in the religious wars that flamed throughout all France. Although the leaders of the parties devastated everything with slaughter and fire, yet the splendor and prestige of the courts and of the greatest cities strangely enough was undiminished. Then many battles and great tumults were quieted in a short time by an edict of the best of kings, as swarms of bees may be checked by the throwing of a little dust. The prince forgot all injuries. Goodness of such a nature is innate in the race of the Valois.
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>>9486
Thank you monark.ai
Will read that later.
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>>9481
>For the people becomes a monarch
This is downright insane and I do not care if he was speaking in parables. A plurality of many heads simply cannot behave like the coherent and upright single main kaput. With Aristotle's system you may only, in the best of circumstances, only reach half resolutions for all and every single possible issue in the city until one group emerges, gains greater power, and ends always winning the most, eventually allying with a second lesser one to perhaps beat the one other major contender, which is so typical of modern democracy. He may claim that all people are represented if this pleases him, they may be all more or less heard, but far from it all of them will be satisfied, because as soon as power is divided, then the constituent parts are given freedom by design to go their own way and favor their own desires, thus introducing aggravating rifts within the population. This opposition of forces becomes a game of neutering the extremes, a leveling of the whole and a reach for the median point in a planar struggle, whereas one imperator can force all these elements, whether they like it or not entirely, to aim upwards as a bundle of rays.
>Homer says that ‘it is not good to have a rule of many,’ but whether he means this corporate rule, or the rule of many individuals, is uncertain.
Was he dishonest or something? Did he really think Homer, in his own time and age, would repudiate the typical model of ruling that all men and women were accustomed to, whether the monarchy was hereditary or elective?
>Aristotle is opposed not only opposed to "many in one", but absolute monarchy (where the monarch has the pre-eminence of the entire state).
Whether it's a large state or a city-state, the one ruler would have a higher record of great accomplishments than of men of short mandates who had to constantly compose with varying competitive groups.
>Guenon was a freemason & holds it against Philip the Fair (who persecuted the Knights Templar, related to freemasonry) for the supremacy of political values.
Freemasonry and the intrigues about the different types of orders of Knights of the Temple has always been too hard a topic for me to decide for good on one side or the other, for a lack of sufficient facts. Some say that Philip allied himself with the Church to crack down on competition and seize the vast treasures amassed by the rather international proto-banking order. Others say that while the Templars started as Christians, they progressively drifted towards a silent anti-Christianism and opened themselves to a more creed-agnostic approach, of which Freemasonry would take more than just a slight inspiration to say the least. Libertarians would likely hate the Templars for having established the basics of a central bank, which is a really superficial criticism. Others will point out that they were not that powerful since they couldn't even defend themselves that well despite the vast amount of money they managed and the still large amount they directly controlled. Because they let the Middle East have an influence on them, they're hated as apostates by Christians. Others argued that they had nurtured an interest in Semitic Hermeticism that went far beyond what Christian scholars with an interest in the esoteric touched upon. As for well meaning Freemasons, if they still exist, they likely are completely out of their league now, infected with beliefs that have drifted much too close to Jewish Kabalism and which may have started around the days of templarism.
>That & I feel Julius Evola & any other aristocratic is easily persuaded to the views of Alexis de Tocqueville against Absolute Monarchy (which in turn is just the Aristotelian view, imho).
Evola? No, I don't think so. He certainly defended against Guénon the figure of a regal ruler who combined the secular and spiritual powers while Guenon always placed the spiritual above all else, which is the trend of those Abrahamists who fall into the spiritual escapism by detaching themselves too much from the worldly affairs. Evola had strong texts about imperialism, too much to be at the same time defending a diluted and divided form of political power with all sorts of checks and balances and on then, on the other hand, long for great changes that could only be brought by a strong emperor. His position on the opposition between the Guelph and the Ghibelline makes this very clear.
>HIGH POLITICS consists in the perfection of political virtue, which accounts for all estates, warrior and priest. 
It would be even more accurate for civilizations that didn't have much of a large spiritual institution with its dedicated caste, even if there would have been a few specialists on the spiritual matters as much as there would be specialists of the martial matters. A good king would know how to surround himself with the best, as simple as that.
>Compare Natsoc or Fascist ceremonies & demonstrations in the past, what you see is HIGH POLITICS.
Absolutely. Especially the National Socialist ones, which unfortunately might have been badly named because socialism, to many, would be thought of as a secular sociological and economical method of state management, whereas on a purer level, a true socialism should encompass all aspects of life, including the spiritual, as it aims at serving society, which should strictly be composed of people bound in blood and faith.
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>Since politics uses the rest of the sciences, & since, again, it legislates as to what we are to do & what we are to abstain from, the end of this science must include those of the others, so that this end must be the good for man.
- Aristotle Ethics

>"For we stated the end of political science to be the best end, & political science spends most of its pains on making the citizens to be of a certain character, viz. good & capable of noble acts."
- Aristotle Ethics

Aristotle is keen that when it comes to the refinement of men, political science takes the pain to do it.
Via political organization, man has the refinement of his parents, the employment of the parents themselves, the ordination of the City, thereby the integrity of all people.
Moralists resigned this science in the name of the Truth, but resigning this science they ponder at their incapacity to fix the lives of citizens.
The science by which their Truth prescribed to fix the lives of citizens -- they denounced the loudest of all, so a faith w/o works.
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From this you have the inactivity and leisure of Conservatism, but worst of all that sin of partiality.
Even Plato's Republic reproved this: accusing those philosophers of partiality & not the aim of the whole State, so Plato devised they must be forced to rule.
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This sin of partiality resembles those who think of a better civilization, but desert the means to acquire it.
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Mussolini ridiculed the parliamentary debate as a 'boring masturbation'.
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>>9603
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This thread is for Christians holding the fascist philosophy as their political philosophy.

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST There is no discussion of Christniggerism outside of the Anti Abraham thread, locked.

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>>9626
Which church?
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>>9628
Notice how christianity is not only a shit religion written by jews, and is about a jew 
but it is actual ANTI WHITE proto-communist revolutionary marxism since it's inception, you retard? 

Turns out the early christians were actual copies of marxist/leninist communist murderers of the 1900's and this was clearly by design and not a coincidence. 

Free your mind from abrahamic mind poison and get over it cucko, the jews karl marx too was a considered a messiah by idiots, lenin too wrote the similar poisons last century and none of it is even workable ideologies/theologies just like christianity.
Why do you worship the baby dick cutting god?

Sure he may not believe in baby dick cutting anymore, but he did at one point. Seems like bad judgement on Yahweh's part.

Same could be said for choosing the Jews. Did he not see that one coming?

>inb4 whites are the real Jews

Ah yes, the moral character of old testament prophets pimping out their sisters, stealing from each other, and yes, cutting baby dicks, perfectly matches Aryan morality
>>9629
Let me guess, catholics aren't real christians?
>>9611 (OP) 
How do reconcile the egalitarianism and universalism inherent to Christianity with your conservative views? How do you alleviate the cognitive dissonance of worshipping a Jewish god? Will you circumcise your sons if you ever have sex?

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I know there are anons that doubt the existence of nuclear weapons and some don’t believe in it, but there’s no doubt that this ZOG world order would die from a nuclear exchange and thus we need to be prepared for any scenario like this. How de we survive as a race in a nuclear apocalypse? How do we build a white civilisation in a post nuclear apocalypse?
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>>9581
Bomb everywhere that does not matter aka non-farmlands aka the non-flyover states aka the coastline states. Examples: Washinton, Oregon, California, Florida, New York. Florida and California alone are of the most populated states and neither have winters and so are thus very dysgenic. They do nothing good for the world. If I had to pick three places it would be New York, Florida, and California. Politics/money processing center, retirement state, and holleywood. The most fun state to be in is probably Oregon and wrecking it kills lots of wildlife so that is one reason I'd nuke the area around Washington, especially to the left where the tress are the most dense actually left of the costline despite this 'coastline hate' it may damgae the nation more to attack the 'wild wild west' forests. No running into the woods to escape being a farmer basicallly. No more degenerate coastline states except near Virginia I guess, and Carolina can be left alone too... maybe not south though as really I'm forgetting to nuke the bible belt here. I'll just make a fun map with "x" over things I want to see turned into ash. 

Not that I really think nukes are real and if they are I dout they made as many as they say they did and if they did I bet they are mostly non-functional and even if they were nobody has the balls due to checks and balances so they wont ever get used basically. 

>>9585
Killing the US negates  three as they rely on the USA. Russia should be the one to do they bombing, but *yawn* China's economy would collapse, Israel would get Arab'd, Mexico would just fade into not being remembered as it should be just as the rest of the S. Murikan nations go unmentioned....*yawning intensifies* 

Not that I like Texas but image related if I had some nukes. 

>had to use yawndex to get an image of Princess Peach yawning as duckduckhoe is THAT BAD current year
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Maybe it's the other image. Trying with text only, annoying bot is annoying. 
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>>9585
>Israel
What does that accomplish besides emotional feelgood things?
>Mexico
Again, what does that accomplish? The problem is in America, not in Mexico. You're wasting our very limited number of hypothetical nukes. We only have 30 and many of them will get intercepted.

>China, Russia
This only makes sense from a Piercian perspective. MAYBE Russia will nuke us back and then it'd be worth it. But they might not. ZOG might backchannel them to de-escalate and then we will have wasted our nukes killing Russians while the few nukes we did send against DC are eliminated mid travel.

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Most of us talk about White genocide, show people charts like this, and explain that at current trends, White people will go extinct by the year 2100 or 2150 assuming no one does anything.
It's kind of implied that White genocide is a mostly peaceful protest process that ends with the last White man dying in his bed in Iceland in the year 2108. Shitlibs sometimes will retort
>Oh yeah? Well who cares if Whites die out? So long as no one is physically killed with a gun, it's not genocide!

Sadly, this is not realistic. There are zero examples of a population replacement that did not end in physical genocide. The Saxons did not peacefully replace the Celts in England. Arabs did not peacefully replace non-Arabs in the Levant and north-Africa. The Bantus did not peacefully replace the non-Bantu in the Congo. And the jews did not peacefully replace the Canaanites. These are all examples of large scale population migrations which overwhelmed the native populations and either totally replaced them or reduced them to a tiny minority. In every example, once the dominant group could physically expel or exterminate or enslave/rape the native group, they did. The genetic evidence among southern African groups attests to the fact that the modern population contains vastly greater DNA from pre-Bantu female lines than male lines. That's because the males were fucking killed and the females were ra
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>>8735
I was speaking to one earlier and they believe they are going to be genocided. The jews are transphobic and are making the right, hate trannies and the left hate troons as well. The belief that they are going to be genocided is unfounded. The only good thing is they hate MAGA.
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>>4949 (OP) 
2 gems from stoddard
>>8653
>An alternative to the system.

https://youtu.be/9kLRzP99QAY

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>>8610
>I am in Seattle where I get into street fights all the time.
My town is like Seattle but a lot smaller in a red state. This is starting to happen with me too. A gypsy or something tried to fight me for disrupting his scam. I constantly get in shouting matches with Asian drivers for almost running me over (tfw no car). The beaners are mostly 5' tall but they travel in packs and who knows if they have guns. And of course, there are the blacks.

I've never shot a gun and there's nowhere in town to practice but it's starting to feel like a necessity regardless
>>4949 (OP) 
We Whites will Overcome this genocide and We Will Conquer the Entire World.
Total Aryan Victory is Close.

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Recently it was found out that the octopus species has DNA that is alien to Earth. Meaning that it originally came from outer space.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0079610718300798
https://bgr.com/science/new-scientific-paper-claims-octopuses-are-actually-aliens-from-outer-space/

Now this made me think. Could it be possible that the European man had originally come from outer space? And that it was the Africans that came from the apes?
Does anybody know if there any more sources out there concerning this theory?
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>>9432
MEDS NOW
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>>2224 (OP) 
>MARCH OF THE TITANS
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>>9432
HOLY SHIT THATS AN AWESOME POINT YOU MADE WHILE SCREAMING THROUGH YOUR KEYBOARD I WISH YOU COULD SHARE MORE TRUTHS SEE YOU SOON SPACE COWBOY
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>>9454
I was not screaming.
>>2224 (OP) 
No, I don't think white people came from outer space, the shit you're linking to is about octopuses, not humanity, or white people.

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When the Alt-Right existed something that happened was women in the movement complaining of poor treatment before leaving. If "justice" as defined from the right could be characterized as "to each according to his or her place in the hierarchy" then misogynistic behavior towards women is unjust. Pic rel is one example but here in the US there is a significant presence of misogyny on the right (if we're being honest with ourselves).

A different position is Alain de Benoist's identitarian/differentialist feminism. In the interview "Benoist on Feminism, IQ, & the Wealth of Nations 
Interview on the Human Sciences, Part 4" he says:

>From the beginning, in Europe women were never considered mere objects. Male domination, on the other hand, has long been legitimated by Christian theology which, especially in the first centuries, presented women as defective beings and a “place of sin.” From the 19th century on, bourgeois society has constantly repressed feminine values. This is what justifies the demands of women.

>But there are two forms of feminism: egalitarian feminism and identitarian feminism. The first thinks that the best means of ensuring the promotion of women is to work to gradually blur the distinction between masculine and feminine social roles. Women must be able to do “everything that men do,” but in this case it the male social role is implicitly taken as the model. The second, by contrast, holds that one can assert the equality of women only on the basis of their distinctness. The New Right supports the second tendency, represented in particular by Luce Irigaray, rather than the first, represented in particular by Simone de Beauvoir or Elisabeth Badinter.

>For its part, evolutionary psychology shows that the differences between men and women go well beyond their sexual organs. In mankind, the brain itself is sexually dimorphic. Thus sex is not reduced to “gender,” to a social construction (as claimed in “gender studies,” which are characterized above all by their sterility and their extraordinary monotony). Sex is a biological reality on which multiple social constructions are grafted. Feminism is thus completely legitimate when it demands the recognition of the equal value of what is distinctly female and what is distinctly male. But equal value does not mean indistinctness.

In his pamphlet Manifesto for a European Renaissance he discusses this under the section "4. Against Sexism; For the Recognition of Gender":

>The modern concept of abstract individuals, detached from their sexual identity, stemming from an 'indifferentialist' ideology which neutralizes sexual differences, is just as prejudicial against women as traditional sexism which, for centuries, considered women as incomplete men. This is a twisted form of male domination, which in the past had excluded women from the arena of public life, and admits them today - on the condition that they divest themselves of their femininity.

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>>7221
luckily our enemies are shameless and thoughtless, so they’re going to continue overplaying their hand. NEVER COMPROMISE! TOTAL MUTT DEATH!
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>>3436 (OP) 
>>3438
>If it were truly consistent in its convictions, feminism would, on certain levels, be indistinguishable from the defence of European culture and values...
>Ancient Europe offers us an entirely different picture. In all Indo-European societies, which lie at the source of current European cultures, women enjoyed a privileged position. Although these societies were founded upon a patriarchal type of system (in which the bonds enabled and transmitted identifications following a line of masculine kinship; the family submitted to the father's authority; and the principle position in the pantheon itself belonged to a father god), the latter generated a complete sort of society, one where women were not only 'allowed access', but also honoured, because the worldview it expressed established the relation between the sexes in accordance with a principle of complimentarity. 
>It is because an inegalitarian conception of the world is necessarily founded on the acknowledgement of diversity that the other sex has always been considered an enrichment in Europe, and not regarded as a curse that allegedly stems from some 'original sin'. Polytheism acts as a reflection of this human diversity, just as monotheism mirrors a regressive 
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Cops protect women's shitty behavior because it turns men into faggots. Because cops are faggots. To solve the woman problem, cops have to be turned into a memory.

Cops also kill more White people per year than anything else. Around blues, never snooze.
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>>3436 (OP) 
generation identity
>>8161
Top tier fed posting

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卐 THE GREAT NATSOC GENERAL 

Thread for the discussion of National Socialism, White Nationalism, the Third Position, racial identity movements and the Jewish Question.

(I’ll be posting images)

>REDPILLS:
https://rentry.org/National-Socialist-Redpills

>BOOKS:
https://rentry.org/national-socialist-books
Gottfried Feder - The Manifesto for the Abolition of Enslavement to Interest on Money https://archive.org/details/manifesto-for-abolition-enslavement-interest-on-money-gottfried-feder
Gottfried Feder - The Programme of the NSDAP https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFeder_TheProgramOfTheNSDAP
Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (Dalton Edition) https://archive.org/details/mein-kampf-dalton-translation/

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>>8783
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Hitler Youths marching near Shanghai, China, circa 1935.
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Meal time at a Hitler Youth camp, Germany, 1930s.
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Members of the Hitler Youth in exercise, 1930s.
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Members of the League of German Girls in Wuxi, Jiangsu, China, circa 1934-1935.
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Hitler Youth member learning how to ride a motorcycle, date unknown.
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>>8784
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Hitler Youth members jumping over the solstice fire, Berlin, Germany, Jun 1937.
>>8782
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>>8730
So I guess the nigger commie fist takes down the Churchill scissors?

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I need your help.

Currently, I think of myself as a National Syndicalist. But I want to broaden my horizon. Heres my basic requirements for an alternative ideology to National Syndicalism:
Corporatism, basic key components of Gottfried Feders economics, state-guided capitalism, a total eradication of central banking, debt-slavery, usury, and interest, one nationalized union, and a reminiscence to Meiji to Early Shōwa economic models (Zaibatsu, internal banks and bank-state subordination). All the ingredients are there, but I need a name. I'll probably end up where I started tho geg (shitty drawing cause im on xbox)
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>>9161
/Fascist/, National-Socialist, National-Syndicalist, White-Nationalist are all just words, I just want all kikes to die, all shitskins expelled or excecuted and Whites to become to ruling majority on earth, an ethnoglobe of sorts. I do not care about endless ideological chatter, the next Hitler could be a Bisexual-trans pagan furry for all i care, I'll follow who ever brings our race closer to the ethnoglobe, even if it includes tolerating homosexuals, transexuals, roasties and furries.
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>>9186
>Not even Natsocs wanted a divided Germany. 
That's odd since I never claimed he did nor did I suggest this.
Perhaps you misread what I wrote.
My position is that America is a large country with many historic cultures. I take it that you'd rather carry on the current trend and "assimilate" them all into one culture that is non-distinct from New England to California.
What exactly is the nature of this culture and why should we all adopt it rather than celebrate our historic pride and heritage?
>>9188
I'm with this guy. I don't care about what wordism I am called. I'm far more interested in policies, ideas, and results than LARPing as a specific word that is intentionally kept as vague as possible.
>>9060 (OP) 
Why keeping with this modern nonsense of liberal/illustrated ideologies separate from the Natural Order when you could just become a White Pagan Nationalist which embraces Natural Order of Fractals?

Modernity is a shithole, antinatural ideologies are retarded, ONLY THE NATURAL ORDER HAS FUTURE!.
Come back to Mother Earth, Embrace Paganism and TRUE Nationalism, with Nation on its TRUE ETHYMOLOGICAL MEANING (Nation=Natur=Genes=RACE)
>>9060 (OP) 
>Corporatism
More details please.
>basic key components of Gottfried Feders economics
The whole of it barely requires any update as far as I've been reading besides minor adjustments to the economics reality of this or that nation and cultural barriers that have people do things in a given way.
>state-guided capitalism
What definition of capitalism to you run with?
>a total eradication of central banking
You cannot do that, that's an old silly libertarian idea. Central banking as centrally organized management of a polity's wealth and rules of exchange is very ancient. Central banking is not a problem when it is in the hands of our people, for our people. The issue is the lack of auxiliary currencies.
>one nationalized union
I came to this thread interested by the statement of you being a national syndicalist if only for the fact that nationalists are seldom present, even less welcome, in syndicalism and unions.
>a reminiscence to Meiji to Early Shōwa economic models (Zaibatsu, internal banks and bank-state subordination)
What is the real gain here? If there's one national currency, whether it's directly provided by a national and public central bank or by a small array of major banks obeying the standards established by the government, I'm not seeing much of a difference that warrants going through all of this.
>picture
I wish you have taken some time to find something more intelligent and elaborate to post.
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What? A fascist board – strike that – THE Fascist board on the whole of internet and it does not have a thread dedicated to Rome???
Consider this corrected.
Politics, war, religion, population, families, law, economy, culture, catastrophes: here we shall cover the topics that pertain to the long and rich history of one of the most well known cities of the entire world, the Eternal City and her Seven Hills.
Please go to >>2 to find relevant books that have already been cited and don't hesitate to drop reliable references here, including links to threads or articles on other websites that provide valuable information.

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Hails to ye all fellow Aryan Brothers to this new Only White thread of My Making, called CHILŒ, which means:
CRAFT=CEN
HISTORY=HAEGL
IDENTITY=ÍSS
LIFE=LAGUZ
ŒDAL=HOME

The next topics on this thread are: Crafting (Handcrafts, Woodcraft, and anything Noble with Craft), History (Lost and Known), Identity (White Aryan Lineages), Life (Nature), and Œdal (Ideas for a Future White Aryan Etnostate, and Homedefense ideas, also maybe architectural themes).
So this thread may be very extend on its topics, so we got a lot to talk about.

We are also going to mix topics like History with Magic and Spirituality, or Homeland with History, because you cannot have History or Identity without Spirituality.

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST Namefag was unneeded, and so is the thread every topic you mention has other threads for it

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On the first topic to discuss, I'll share this information I gathered on the Ancient but Forgotten White Indians of America, with their roots on Atlantean Survivors, Nordic Settlers and Scythian Travellers, most proofs of their existance have been erased by the jew from History, and their Civilizations were destroyed by Judeo-christian saboteurs, the ((( Jesuits ))) took a lot of work along with nations of brown indians to destroy the White Aryan Tribes of America, lots of them escaped from the Continent to Oceania or Asia, others remained hidden on the Andean Mountains, but most were genocided by the judeochristians and swarthy tribes...

Surprised, aren't you?, White Genocide is not recent, the jews have been trying to erase us from the Earth since Millenia, and the reason of this is because we White Aryans are the Nations of Gog and Magog, showned in the Bible, we are jew's BIGGEST Thread on Earth.

Because NO OTHER HUMAN SPECIES ON EARTH has the Essence and Nature that Only WE WHITE ARYANS have.

Yet, there are still some proofs remaining of the White Aryan Indians of America, and also, the Latent Blood Memory is one of the best sources to gather information from about these Forgotten Nations...

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