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I think Tribe and Train, Active Clubs, and really any semi-formal collectivization is the quickest way to build up a base for any coherent action.

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People die all the time. The death of our enemies is awesome and a celebrated occurence because it's an act of justice and revenge against them killing our people. You're just a soft derad fag that needs to skip back to reddit/cuckchan.

>>4359
His question isn't whether it is moral but whether it is effective.

>>4357
Right that has been stated, but I have not seen anybody explain what could that action be, that would bring down ZOG. Everything that’s been mentioned in my post doesn’t lead to that. I’m not trying to deny every suggested thing, I’m just trying to find what action could be taken after enough tribe and training/active clube is done.

>>4361
>what action could be taken after enough tribe and training/active clube is done.
If such a movement reaches the point where it has a de-facto state within a state, then it can seek its independence in any way it sees fit. Actions which seem pointless now would not be so if there here such a de-facto state to back it up.
Spelling it out any further seems unnecessary.

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>join a youth group they said

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>>4352 (OP) 
To say Breivik did not challenge the System is not only super wrong but also expresses ignorance to what happened back then.
Breivik shot the next generation of leftist politicians, activists and such, that wasn't an ordinary training camp, it was where they were being indoctrinated by the Norwegian 'elite' into being the new generation, the result of the whole deal is that the pro-white talking points became mainstream and radicalized more people to take action against their enemies and plus, he got to live in a extremely comfy prison with PlayStation as Norway shown.
Furthermore, White Southerners like Dylann Roof had got tired of the shit that niggers do dailyand so he went for the people that financed them which would be the nigger church ladies in this case.
Now with the case of Tarrant, there were some errors, yes. those would be publicly outing your intentions to the world and surrendering to the cops instead of running and hiding away, his mistake is thinking New Zealand's prison was anything like Norway.
If he didn't self-snitch and wore anything covering his face, he would be in home cooking some barbecue to this day.
Regardless, the targets he chose were valid to attack as they were an radicalization center for Jihadists and there were also sexual grooming issues in there.
This article resolves any confusion you've got (https://archive.ph/iuxJ9) as it details out more so get to reading.

Active clubs are nice but they will not be enough, this is not some Weimar-style battleground where disputes are resolved by fists as this would mean the current day society has the same level of civility just as back during 1920s. You should prepare for actual warfare because our enemies will do absolutely anything to suppress us and their order is deteriorating each day. You should focus on learning how Jihadists and leftists (including Lenin specifically) actually achieved victory and start by recruiting hyper-alienated Whites which for example would be the rural Southerners and also European farmers if you live in Europe.

>>4367
Right, people have recommended reading upon Lenin and jihadists taking of power, but they never say how it applies to our present situation. The western world today isn’t the same as that of Lenin or of the Middle East. Siege doesn’t actually say how upon our present ZOG can be ridden of. I am not a particularly good writer, we need to somehow together write the guide or a book or something to that extent. I feel that nowadays it is just a lot of waiting for things to just magically get worse, but the jews in power know what happens, so they are careful. 

As long as people have food on the table and talmudvision, they are fine. Doesn’t matter if riots are going on in the streets of cities. So what then? Jews are not going to let it go to the point where people can’t get food on the table/circus. So how do we go get it to that point? Attacking random electric power stations doesn’t do it either.

>>4368
People recommend that because the collapse of the Russian government is what needed to happen prior to the October revolution, it doesn't apply in specifics, it applies in general.
Siege was never more than a manual telling you how to avoid jail, and the two valid stratagems left to our movement, idiots and feds used it and threw some edgy  aesthetics at it to make it seem scary, because all of it's advice and analysis is sound, Mason lays it out simple we either go total attack, the method and means is yours to pick, as nobody who you do not absolutely trust with your life, should know what you are doing, or Total dropout to weaken the system, however little, by denying it you tax income to the fullest extent and also by being as unnoticable as you can, there are no manuals on how to bring it it down, because it is the single most powerful country to ever exist and it is doing it's level best to collapse on it's own, which is not waiting for it to magically get worse, this country is on the brink of a complete economic collapse, Social division is higher than it's been since the 1860's, we have a demented retard in the highest seat of power, and we are on the brink of a likely nuclear war involving America and all of NATO and Russia. china, etc.
>So how do we go get it to that point?
 Dude they're getting to that point on their own, the sheer waste of all the stupid measures the governments all over the world have been taking to prevent such nebulous shit as the Avian Flu is certainly not helping.

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>>4368
>Right, people have recommended reading upon Lenin and jihadists taking of power, but they never say how it applies to our present situation. The western world today isn’t the same as that of Lenin or of the Middle East
America and Russia are, for the most part huge countries with lots of different groups be it ethnic and political throughout their history. They are so big that civil wars inside them could be argued to be as 'mini-world wars' described, video related.
The Bolsheviks were very irrelevant and small compared to the much more numerous and moderate Mensheviks, Commies were hated just like us NS nowadays and they were used as an insult to discredit others in a nation where the common and acceptable worldview and discourse of everyday was that the Tsar and his family were divine and God-like and the Monarchical rule must be defended to all cost.
Bolsheivks hated the Mensheviks because they were 'delusional cowards, grifters and opportunists' and the Mensheviks hated them in return because they 'presented bad optics' and 'made the movement look bad' etc, you don't need to guess who eventually won in the end.
They exploited the wrath that was from the costly war of Russia versus Germany and directed it towards tradesmen which they recruited to his cause which they helped him in return by redirecting the railroad junctions which the White Army (Kornilov) train were using to travel towards Petrograd. Lenin even called this "Revolutionary defeatism" or rather external defeatism where the loss of a nation enrages it's people into creating the conditions for change. they were the most fanatical against their opponents which were very disorganised and so were only under the big tent coalition based on anti-Bolshevism but in different interests and worldviews.

Now with how the jihadists usually win success is another story and it would be too long to explan on full detail in one single post so that's for another time, but I'll do give you this one example anyway, the Taliban started as a student youth group (because that is what they're named from) because the founder had a dream of an woman telling him to "end the madness and chaos" so he created the group to get rid of degenerate pedophilic practices like Bacha bazi, when they rescue young people from the local pedophile warlords which in return they get massive support amongst the masses.
Now it's not that hard to see the niggers and kikes, migrants doing depraved shit is it?, if we set up private security groups and enforce our own law thus fucking them up in the whole process, then we will become a more legitimate force amongst Whites over the racial treasonous government of their nation. so I'll end this post with recommending this book about Islamist tactics, have fun with it.
Also with what >>4372 said, America's pretty much dying.

>>4364
i hope someone wont remember me from endchan or 4/pol/ to do some image search on 4plebs
>hasbara said
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/NGr1cbsbc9Yyv5PVCCsp0g/

>>4379
*and will do some search