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'Preamble.'
This is a non-fascist thread from an outsider.
I am sympathetic to fascism, but understand why we are at odds.
Fascists are fully justified in hating monarchists for Victor Emmanuel III and for Juan Carlos I.
Benito Mussolini writes.
>His treason strips him of his regalia and brands him for his individual shame, just like the traitors whom Dante assigns to the ninth circle of hell.
Benito Mussolini also writes.
>The Fascist doctrine has not taken De Maistre as its prophet. Monarchical absolutism is of the past, and so is ecclesiolatry. Dead and done for are feudal privileges and the division of society into closed, uncommunicating castes. Neither has the Fascist conception of authority anything in common with that of a police ridden State
Contrary to Benito Mussolini, this thread does analyze & make comparisons between absolutism & fascism. Our prophets are Jean Bodin & Thomas Hobbes & Robert Filmer. De Maistre is our weakest link & the black sheep of our bunch (his ultramontanism stands in stark contrast to our other prophets & De Maistre condemns Louis XIV & has certain Tocquevillist inclinations). Albeit De Maistre is within our ranks, he isn't our foremost representative. Absolutism is a general political idea, applied to each form of state and every time period. It doesn't account for only Monarchy or the Middle Ages and nowadays neofeudalists and traditional catholics and anarcho-capitalists above all others are denouncing absolutism as a political idea -- to the contrary of Benito Mussolini's words, so there is justification for proceeding with the comparison.
What fascism & absolutism have in common is the uplifting of the political.
As the Italian fasces are an emblem of the State & absolutism is from the politique faction (concerned with advancing the political good).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politique
>Bodin was a “politique,” a partisan of neither the Huguenots nor the Catholic League, who had the reputation of caring more for civil peace than doctrinal truth.
'Bodin on Wars of Religion:'
>No greater proof of a stable state exists than was shown recently in the religious wars that flamed throughout all France. Although the leaders of the parties devastated everything with slaughter and fire, yet the splendor and prestige of the courts and of the greatest cities strangely enough was undiminished. Then many battles and great tumults were quieted in a short time by an edict of the best of kings, as swarms of bees may be checked by the throwing of a little dust. The prince forgot all injuries. Goodness of such a nature is innate in the race of the Valois.
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That's why I disagree with Rene Guenon -- who condemned the merging of civil politics and religion. 
I have to agree with Hobbes of all people who resolved that it was a necessity to have both Sword and Crosier united.
People might say it is an injustice for such an authority to hold and determine this, but the same could be said for any authority and even a hierarchy: they still must set ordinations and guide their flock, that I don't see it as too fundamentally different like I said earlier about how the household accounts for both stratocracy and hierarchy.
Thomas Hobbes
>The error concerning mixed government [constitutionalism] has proceeded from want of understanding of what is meant by this word body politic, and how it signifies not the concord, but the union of many men.

>The other error in this his first argument is that he says the members of every Commonwealth, as of a natural body, depend one of another. It is true they cohere together, but they depend only on the sovereign, which is the soul of the Commonwealth

Plato Republic:
>That the other citizens too must be sent to the task for which their natures were fitted, one man to one work, in order that each of them fulfilling his own function may be 'not many men, but one', and so 'the entire city may come to be not a multiplicity but a unity.'

Plato Republic:
>For factions… are the outcome of injustice, and hatreds and internecine conflicts, but justice brings oneness of mind and love.

To differentiate what Hobbes says about body-politic from Aristotle, there is no other passage from Aristotle's Politics that makes this more clear than here:

Aristotle Politics
>For the people becomes a monarch, and is many in one; and the many have the power in their hands, not as individuals, but collectively. Homer says that ‘it is not good to have a rule of many,’ but whether he means this corporate rule, or the rule of many individuals, is uncertain. At all events this sort of democracy, which is now a monarch…
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https://habib.camden.rutgers.edu/talks/plato-and-aristotle/

>According to Plato, unity is the desired end of both individual and state constitution. 

>Plato’s overarching disposition towards unity asserts itself most pervasively and at every level, from the point of origin of a city to its formally articulated bureaucratic structure. What needs to be observed here is how unity — even more than the alleged goals of justice or the Good — is the ultimate teleological principle informing the interrelation of elements comprising the city’s overall constitution.

>Where the circularity of the concept of unity encompasses for Plato the origin and purpose of a state, Aristotle’s procedure in the Politics is strikingly different. To evince the overall contrast of both method and content between the two thinkers, it may be useful to consider firstly Aristotle’s metaphysical presuppositions, secondly his observations on the state in general, and finally his assessment of democracy as informed by these.

>To begin with, Aristotle’s self-proclaimed analytic and somewhat empirical method (I, i) is far less prone to the strategy of hypostatization which governs much of Plato’s thinking in the Republic. Aristotle’s method i
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I don't understand most of what you're saying, but this is a very good thread nonetheless.
We have a /monarchy/ on the webring?
From what I understand he has philosophical differences with Monarchy, and he puts in effort, which I appreciate, so I let him have his thread,

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How long can you think in circles before you realize communism is perfect for the people (in theory)?
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>>3036
Blow the fucking commie out, this presents an opportunity for you to defend your beliefs, most I'll do is move the thread to the QTTDOT, after I sleep on it.
>>2799 (OP) 
How long will you deny the fact that communism is closer to fascism then any anarchism or syndicalism. How long will you deny the liberal and communist support for hitler and mussolini? 
How long will it take you that you are a ploy in a bigger game.
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>/trannypol/ bunkertroons are seething again.
>>2799 (OP) 
No, Anon. National Socialism as a worldview and driving force for whatever political system we decide to take up is best for the people. In theory, practice, and spirit. When we put the needs, health, safety, and prosperity of our own people above those of all others we give ourselves the means to thrive. When we choose to look inward and build healthy families, strong communities, and then turn outward with the might of fist, foot, and mind, we enable ourselves to claim new lands for our people to expand to. When the men who shovel the shit out of sewers can wash themselves and look an aristocrat in the eye and they still know each other as folk and work towards a common end, we create a healthy society devoid of class warfare and replace it with a united struggle. National socialism is what's best for us.
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>>2799 (OP) 
>communism is perfect for the people (in theory)

NAZBOL GANG ASSEMBLE!!1!

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>"Of course there are no pure races left; not even the Jews have kept their blood unmingled. Successful crossings have often promoted the energy and the beauty of a nation. Race! It is a feeling, not a reality; ninety-five percent. at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today. Amusingly enough, not one of those who have proclaimed the 'nobility' of the Teutonic race was himself a Teuton. Gobineau was a Frenchman; Houston Chamberlain, an Englishman; Woltmann, a Jew; Lapogue, another Frenchman. Chamberlain actually declared that Rome was the capital of chaos. No such doctrine will ever find wide acceptance here in Italy. Professor Blank, whom you quoted just now, is a man with more poetic imagination than science in his composition. National pride has no need of the delirium of race."
— Benito Mussolini, Talks with Mussolini
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race/ethnicity = breed 

Daily reminder that even if you are a mutt we don't have to all be bulldogs/rottweilers.

nation = culture

culture = religion 

religion = delusion/truth

It's only true if you were the right breed in other words, hence incompatible personality types exist due to having mutated in opposing directions. Different logic styles. Otherwise scientists nor mathematicians would argue amongst themselves.  But yeah, even if your golden retriever is slightly lab or some shit it's still not a bulldog mixed with rottweiler. One's gonna be a fuckin' nigger and the other is more likely not.
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>>3208
>title is an absurd self-contradictory straw man position which misses the point
Might as well stop reading there, honestly.

>>3209
>Mussolini was not an intellectual
Prior to becoming dictator, he was. Almost a textbook case, even, being a well-read political journalist and a huge producer/extender of Fascism.
>but conflates it as essentially being one of those make-believe social tools used for the political wrangling of masses of people into one cause or another that benefits the ruling class
It absolutely is. Break down the Whites into all the subgroups, and all those subgroups into more subgroups. This is very easy to weaponise, in fact many neo-Nazi organisations self-destruct over it with little or no interference.
It's a ruling class, not a ruling cloud of powerful people. Their uniting factor is their ruling position, not their 'race awareness' or nepotism. They're acutely aware of their class, the benefits it affords them, and the fear of a united nation threatening their ruling position is far more potent than race. Economics are the basis of power, of thriving despite being inbred genetic failure, of being an uneducated starving mess despite being the most pure race. Look how two-faced even the l
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Note how he does not mention niggers belonging to Europe, not even sandniggers.
>>3206 (OP) 
>National pride has no need of the delirium of race
Amazing paradox.

>>3211
Nice twisting of words. Awfully kikish.

from natus, past participle of nasci "to be born" (Old Latin gnasci), from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget."
A Norman cannot become an Anglo. A nigger cannot become either.
>>3219
>It absolutely is. ...
OK, fair enough. I see how maybe I ate my words there, since race is contorted for political purposes all the time by the ruling class.
My point was Mussolini is disregarding race in general, which is foolish if you ask me, and now you are disregarding it on the basis that it's used as a political tool. To that I would say, people disregard esoterica all the time for being "Jewish" and claim it's a "dirty" tactic (read: heresy for the Aryan), even though said esoterica is older than the Jews or anything they've ever done. The only thing the Jews ever invented was inversion as a political tool, because their logic is inherently inverted because they are ugly (read: an anti-race).
Taking a concept and inverting it for political purposes does not invalidate the concept. As far as I'm concerned race is the most important thing there is and if you want to conflate race with literal hogwash like organized religion (read: inverted esoterica), I have nothing to say to you.
>The nation is a corpus ...
True. I should have said "purpose of the word 'nation'" instead of just "nation". But the point stands that society can only exist on the basis of race. Without the common interest of race I cannot fathom how any society would ever manifest. If a corrupt and decrepit elite ruling class emerges, it is the product of invade
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Hello /fascist/
We would really like it if you could finish up your team page for the Infinity Cup (which is still on going and your team is expected to pass the group stage tonight).
Please give us some updated Roster pictures (as well as finishing the bench, you're lacking  5 substitutions)
Thanks in advance!
https://infinitycup.miraheze.org/wiki//fascist/
https://infinitycup.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=/fascist//Roster&action=edit&redlink=1
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I doubt anyone still here cares about the ongoing cup but at least I want to let you know you made it to the knockouts
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>>303
Good to know, maybe next year the anon who was into this will come back, or somebody else will take it up.
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>>303
You got eliminated
>>305
I don't know for sure if someone's going to pick up the team anytime soon but at least you guys won a cup so that's something
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Infinity Cup 7 is now complete! Congratulations to /eris/ who joins the ranks of champions as they defeated /japan/ 3-1 in the Final! Stay tuned for the award winners over at our /icup/ board.
Thank you to every anon who chipped in throughout the Cup, and thank you especially to all the anons who took the time to tune in. We'll see you in the next one!
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There's been some talk over at anon.cafe/icup/ for an Infinity Cup revival and /fascist/ was among those boards mentioned.
Would you guys be interested in renewing your team's spot in the cup? No need to edit anything since your team was already legal in the previous edition, so everything can be reused.

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1. Inherent Biological Incompatibility such as antibody formation to foreign race proteins.

This is expressed from the first mating of individuals of two different races. A classical example is antibody production to Rhesus factor. It is an allergic immunological reaction to the offspring by the woman.  

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34262225/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rh_blood_group_system#Hemolytic_disease_of_the_newborn

2. Recombination failure in gamete formation in both males and females.

This is the result of conserved genes being located at different locations on the chromosomes between races due to natural speciation forces such as transposon activity. When recombination occurs in the mixed race offspring to produce gametes, sperm and eggs, recombination between the chromosomes results in additions and deletions that render the gametes inviable or as carriers of addition/deletion diseases. This is measured on a physical chromosome map as the distance in nucleotides between conserved genes. The further apart each parent's conserved genes are on the chromosomes of a mixed race offspring, the higher the percentage of gametes will be non-viable due to additions and deletions in humans. In other species, such as canines, conserved genes are widely spaced apart by SINE repeats, making recombination failure between populations much less likely.

Ethnicity 1 DNA Segment         -------A-B-C-D-E-------------
Ethnicity 2 DNA Segment         ---------------A-B-C-D-E-----
Recombination of Ethnicity 1-2  -------A-B-C/---A-B-C-D-E--/- (Recombination FAILURE!)
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Another way that the myth of race mixed viability is spread is by claiming mitochondrial DNA is evidence of ancestry, which it is not.

Mitochondria are capable of horizontal transfer and this occurs in a non-hereditary fashion between the previous mates of a female and later unrelated offspring.

Mitochondria are a transferrable genetic elements like the microbiomes of the digestive system or surface of skin.

Mitochondrial DNA is not necessarily a record of your ancestry, but can just be a record of who your mother mated with prior to your gestation.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35243258/

>Cells transmit their genomes vertically to daughter cells during cell divisions. Here, we demonstrate the occurrence and extent of horizontal mitochondrial (mt)DNA acquisition between cells that are not in a parent-offspring relationship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_transfer_of_mitochondria
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Phylogenetic trees based on nuclear DNA and trees based on mtDNA are discongruent because mtDNA spreads horizontally, even across different species.

The debate to discard mtDNA from phylogenic modeling is ongoing because it simply doesn't correspond to ancestry in many examples across the animal kingdom, proven horizontal transfer in mammals, but instead corresponds to geography. But it is still being used for human ancestry analysis.

>In total, we identified 126 cases in animal systems with strong evidence of discordance between the biogeographic patterns obtained from mitochondrial DNA and those observed in the nuclear genome. 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22738314/

https://academic.oup.com/sysbio/article/54/6/952/1630741
>>653
This is highly relevant. I recall another discussion, where an anon denied that there's any mechanism for horizontal gene transfer. I didn't have an answer at the time, but I remained uncertain -- if telegony isn't real, then why do we instinctively feel disgusted by women who have had too many partners, especially non-white partners? Why do we prize virginity, or at least a minimum of partners? mtDNA is the perfect explanation.
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>>678
>why do we instinctively feel disgusted by women who have had too many partners, especially non-white partners?
Because being with one, or even being around one to a certain extent, means you're losing. Either fathering someone else's child, or being invaded and replaced by another tribe
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>>686
And the divorce rate is also almost non-existant for virgin women.

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YWNBAW Agent tr00n

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST Unecessary Low Effort Thread, Thios is what the News thread is for.

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>>1578 (OP) 
>Gook troon is both a pedophile and a fed
Wow, what a surprise! I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!

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What was the relationship of National Socialism to Catholicism like?
I know they had the main religion being traditional Nordic, but they also allowed Catholics in the Reich like Leon Degrelle.
The Pope declared support for Italy, but what about Germany?
There are pictures of Hitler with Pope, but other than that, could you post facts about this NatSoc-Catholic alliance?

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST There was no alliance Keep the Christnigger simping in the containment thread.


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[Reposting from frenspol.]

Hello fellow frens,

Recently in another thread many frens myself included had expressed interest in forming a White advocacy and support network encompassing multiple aspects of community support, outreach, legal assistance, workshops and meetups as well as general well-being improvement initiatives. The amount of advocacy for this idea right off the bat was encouraging and with Hizzy's support I have elected to start a thread to discuss specifically the aspects of what this proposed group or network would entail and encourage ideas from the broader Frenschan community.

This group would entail a range of support and advocacy initiatives all encompassing the idea of preserving White heritage and cultural and supporting the members of our race. The group would start here on Frenschan employing an organizational structure that was both secure and trustworthy. So many frens have echoed my sentiments that too many White support groups today are untrustworthy, full of red flags, or have become E-begging whores to fund the lifestyle's of the leadership that runs them while doing little for the community that they claim to represent. This group would be founded by us in the FC community and integrity would be one of the strongest cornerstones in which its foundation would be built. Many Whites today are lost, alone, and adrift on a dark ocean with societal propaganda and feelings of hopelessness beaten down upon them daily. We need to change that a
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>>1371
>Trump made a valiant attempt to fix it
Can you elaborate on this? Trump just seems like another ZOG puppet to me.
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>>1373
>Trump just seems like another ZOG puppet to me.
In fact, that's the consensus around here, so this is just my personal view. I see his actions as at least slowing the decline, if not a brief reversal. Enforcing borders, scaling back imperialism, negotiating the withdrawal from Afghanistan (Biden admin fucked it up later), bringing back domestic industry, pulling out of trans-pacific partnership, paris climate accords, iran nuclear deal, the World Health Organization, and ((( international power structures ))) in general, along with banning trannies from the military, pushing back against ((( critical race theory ))) poison, and more. All these were moves in the right direction, if modest.
Really, from the way NPCs absolutely seethed over Trump, you would hardly know that he was a downright moderate politician with sane policies. He worked against the corrupt oligarchy to some extent instead of being completely beholden to it, which was enough to cause all that cacophony.
As I said, most /fascists/ see Trump as kayfabe controlled opposition, meant to provide an outlet for boomers and non-pozzed Whites while still being safe for ZOG. It's likely that Trump did strike a deal with Jews, and they allowed him to operate, although I don't think he was their puppet; I think Trump led a genuine revolt which was conta
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>>1377
Anon, even before the presidency, they (that is to say, KIKES) would send him into any pro-American boomer movement as a wrecking ball that sucked all the air out of the room while exposing dangerous dissident elements to them, multiple times.  The 9/11 Truther stuff and the Reform party, to name a couple.  His entire presidency was just this shtick all over again.  Seeing anyone with pattern recognition IQ so low on this board is going to snap my back like a twig from cringe, please fix yourself.
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>>1380
I'm normally quite good at picking up patterns, maybe I haven't made a proper analysis of Trump. Based on the hysterical response from most of our institutions and power-brokers, it seemed that Trump's revolt was genuine, and not planned by Jews; however, Jews realized they could keep this within bounds and prevent MAGA from being a threat to the real power structure, which is still intact. This is my current perception.
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>>1382
>it seemed that Trump's revolt was genuine, and not planned by Jews
Here's some evidence he's been their shabbos goy for decades.

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Discussion of Duginism Eurasianism 
>chances
>threats
Russia has effectively annexed eastern Ukraine recently. During the annexation ceremony Putin held a speech whose full text can be gotten here https://mandynews.com/english-transcript-of-putin-ukraine-annexation-speech/.  The speech constitutes an ideological declaration of war against the west in its current form. And it is no coincidence that its most harmless points have been discussed only superficially in western media. Russia let down its mask... at least partially. And what lurks beneath it is... interesting.
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>>621 (OP) 
Commies are not welcome here, not even "cleverly" hidden commies like Dugin, or Putin, and you will not have a general on this board, take your post to the news thread or QTDDTOT, this will be locked from here on out
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