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>>28074
His name wasn't Josh.

>>28075
I don't get it. What does the unfunny cartoon guy larping as tarrant the obvious FED agent in the fake shooting video have to do with this thread topic?

Dunno where to post this, so I'm leaving it here

🔴 LIVE: Pope Leo celebrates first Easter amid Middle East war | AFP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sREmPpdtUJ4

Happy Easter /christian/?

Hi, I'm looking for a caring loving partner who will become my emotional support system. I'm not an atheist

>>28132
Go outside and look for one?

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>>26231
I knew i got one wrong, i even double check and didn't see it.

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There you go.

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>>22362 (OP) 
Tried and failed to edit a Captain Falcon helmet on St. Nicholas. Still, good banner hopefully.

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>>26545
And I forgot to scale it down. Mea culpa

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I hope this doesn't count as a Mormon banner.

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New book coming out in August 2025 for those in US, and for those in the UK, they can already purchase it. The pdf of the book is free to download already from this link
https://josephusandjesus.com/purchase-page/
Ten Minute Bible Hour did a recent video on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6MQHQrC68A

Summary
T. C. Schmidt argues that Josephus’s mention of Jesus, the Testimonium Flavianum, is historically authentic, not a Christian interpolation. Stylometric analysis confirms it matches Josephus’s writing style, suggesting he did write it. Josephus had access to eyewitnesses from Judean and Roman elites, giving him credible sources. Early Christians didn’t treat the passage as theological proof, reinforcing its neutrality. The book reframes Josephus as a legitimate, external witness to Jesus's life and influence.

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Tolkien's abandoned sequel for the events after LOTR.

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>>25745
If you can get your hands on it (New Martyr Press sells an edition of it, last I checked), St. Paisios' The Signs of the Times talks more about some of that. That was the book everyone passed around excerpts from during Covid, as in it he discussed a forced vaccination as a sort of prelude to the mark of the beast.

>>27419
Been meaning to read this bevause I'm a pulpfag

>>28127
Good news, Anons. I've fnished the entire Bible! 

I began on September 11th.2025 and after 287 days (9 months, 14 days) I've finished today on June 24th 2026. I began with Genesis 1:1 and read straight through until I reached Revelation 22:21.

I can try writing up some of my thoughts on the experience of anyone would be interested in that?

>>28139
Very nice! Was there any book that stood out to you more than you had expected it to?

>>28140
That's a good question. I'd say there were a few, but especially Zechariah and Ecclesiastes. I didn't know really anything about them going in and they were very impactful. One thing I really enjoyed was in Zechariah we see the first and possibly only mention of both angels that resemble women and angels that are explicitly described as looking like humans with swan-like wings on their back which it's become very popular for antichrists to say isn't a "biblically accurate angel" when it is. Honestly, none of those so called accurate angels seem all that accurate and there's a good number of times people in the old testament meet an angel and don't even realize it until they start talking to them or they ascend into heaven. Likewise, there's a part in the New Testament where Jesus says come judgement Day we'll be "like the angels." It's in response to a Pharisee trying to trip him up by asking about who a resurrected woman who had remarried after being widowed would be married to if her husbands were resurrected, too, but it shows where that idea comes from. 

For Ecclesiastes I was surprised by how timely the advice in there was and find myself quoting it and Proverbs a lot. Honestly I feel like my moral/value system has changed a lot now that I've read the whole Bible and have a more accurate grasp on what is and isn't accepted by God.

Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel all stood out to me a lot an

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>>28136
Ive finished Acts and begun Romans, but the way Paul writed is so packed with meaning I struggle to progress very far. I took a detour to read/finish Timothy Wares Introduction to Eastern Christianity instead and thats proven very fruitful thus far.

>read almost any epistle in the OSB
>read the notes
>the editors are annoyed at the NKJV's translation choices again
I wish they'd done a full Bible translation instead of leaving the New Testament to the NKJV. At this point, I'm tempted to get a Douay-Rheims Bible for the NT.

>>28072
>God doesn't always act rationally.
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:8-9

God always acts rationally. We just don't/can't see or understand all the factors that weigh into his decisions.

>>28065
It's much simpler than that: God commanded us to go forth and multiply. In addition, Paul says it's preferable to be married and have intercourse than be tempted to fornicate.

How does one identify what is good fruit and not? Is it as simple as having children or doing your part to preach and spread the Word? Or is it deeper than that. When reading some of these parables about the talents and fruit/pruning again I know that I haven't been doing my part in the last few years on both parts, though I am now working to fix it slowly but surely after living in the world and falling away for far too long.

>>28135
>How does one identify what is good fruit and not?
I always thought these verses were part of the answer to that, specifically verse 22-23:

"19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit."
Galatians ch. 5 KJV

>Or is it deeper than that.
It's deeper. It's your heart's disposition.

>>28137
Thank you anon for the response. Reading it when you first replied, compared to now just some month and a half later I already read it with more and further clarity as I've grown and will surely continue to do so.
I have found my way to attend Divine Liturgy and am wholly convinced as now to start Catechesis at my local Parish come September, Lord willing.

As for a new thread topic question: I've been advised to "Read the Fathers". Is there any resource where one can peruse their works, or work out "where to begin"? There are many of them, and surely they have multiple works each. 
I picked up a small guide on an "introduction to the Philokalia" but upon the first few short terms definition pages I've read, have concluded that the actual text of the book proper would surely be beyond my spiritual level at this time (the intro book itself mentions two other prepatory books before reading the actual Philokalia after all)

I suppose I'm asking if theres some sort of library, or resource guide on how to follow the Fathers writings, whether by chronological or level of capability to comprehend and understand (spiritual level vs release order, as I would define it in my head)

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>>27979
Well, I'll be. I think I must've conflated it with the lyrics from the song In Christ Alone which I remember listening to right before watching the short a few years ago. 

I agree, and it's been infuriating me the more and more I notice it and how the commercialization of Christmas and introduction of Santa Claus and the rest has really detrwcted from the meaning of Christmas. Just the other day my fiance wanted to watch the show Amphibia and the Christmas Special really disgusted me. I cant imagine how it was anything ither than intentional malfeasance how they handled it. The characters, mostly from another world, keep asking what the purpose of Christmas is, what the reason for celebrating Christmas is, and why it exists and no less than four or five times they either give them very dismissive answers or tell them it's just about getting presents. There's one particularly diabolical scene where they ask a museum curator and she tells them that it "started in the fourth century when people burned Yule logs" and grew into Saturnalia. Now we celebrate it "by hanging tacky decorations and buying each other discount merchandise."

There's a few scenes where the fish out of water characters say Christmas seems too complicated and pointless and then we get a scene where some Thai immigrants say Christmas is the one time o

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>>27974
Unworldly Sounds 39
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>>28027
Unworldly Sounds 40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDCmL-0Uqg0

And that's all for now! The guy in charge of this series has announced that it will cease for now. Hopefully some of you got something out of some of the songs—I know I did. I hope you all have a merry and blessed Christmas.

>>28028

I certainly did, too. Bless you anon, and Merry Christmas.

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>>28028
The guy who made the Unworldly Sounds playlists has announced that he's going to start posting full albums from old Christian artists whose music is completely unavailable on the Internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z97B0Nw8jA4

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>>28131
>If the people are too poor to tithe, they are too poor to pay a baptism fee.
You could also say that of the woman with the two mites. Those two mites were literally all that she had, and normally she wouldn't be expected to give literally all the money she had to a church's offering, but she did that in an abnormal way without pride or drawing attention to it.
>the apostolic example is for the minister to become bivocational and pay for it himself, not to commit simony
I suspect bivocational priests were likely common back then (based off a couple accounts of frontier priests I've read), although I'd have to ask around a bit more.
This isn't something I can speak authoratatively on, as I'm just going off what I've heard. It was an awkward practice, and the few times I've seen it come up with local priests, they didn't really like it partially because it was possible for it to turn into simony if it lasted beyond the circumstances which created it. In some situations nowadays, it likely is that. You could say the same about laxity in fasting: what could be consideration for health concerns, the newness of the Christian, and various situational elements for one person could be laziness or a lack of discipline for another (or even

>>28133
>they didn't really like it partially because it was possible for it to turn into simony 
This isn’t something which could turn into simony, this is something which literally is simony in and of itself. Peter said “Silver and gold have I none” (Acts 3:6), but he did not therefore begin to sell the grace of God, on the contrary he rebuked such in the harshest terms.

>>28138
Part of the difficulty here is that, as members of different traditions, we're speaking of sin in different ways. Western Christians tend strongly towards seeing sin as a legal infraction against God, whereas the Eastern Church leans more heavily into a different analogy: sin as sickness and Christ as physician. Both legal and medicinal images appear within Scripture, along with a variety of other images for the mystery of what Christ achieved and the life we live in Him: Christ as shepherd, Christ as warrior, Christ as diplomat, and so on. All of these reveal something important of what he did, and a major part of the East's particular fondness for the medicinal image (without discarding the others) is practical: it lends itself well towards the pastoral or therapeutic care of sin versus simply pronouncing legal judgements on people.
Anyhow, because of this we end up asking different questions and approaching the situation in different ways. The Western Christian tendency is to ask "Is the accused guilty of the crime?" and build up a legal case with varying degrees of rigour. The Eastern Christian (offline, at least) is more likely to to ask: "Is the patient sick?". You'll notice that in my region's case, I mentioned that the church did gradually phase out the practice with locals, so there definitely was concern, but they also didn't abruptly crack down on it, and they cur

>>28141
>Part of the difficulty here is that, as members of different traditions, we're speaking of sin in different ways. Western Christians tend strongly towards seeing sin as a legal infraction against God, whereas the Eastern Church leans more heavily into a different analogy: sin as sickness and Christ as physician
The difference being that the legal imagery is not analogical, but proper and literally true, as sin consists in the breaking of God’s law. And this speaks to a much wider and deeper theological error in the eastern churches, in that they have departed from the basic Christian foundational understanding of sin as lawlessness and God as wrathful to the sinner, to the point that they even deny that Christ’s death is a propitiation which satisfied the wrath of God, against the explicit statement of scripture (1 John 2:1-2). All which I think is the direct consequence of the influence of Indian religion on the eastern churches, beginning in late antiquity with the arrival of monasticism, and continuing especially in the early middle ages with the development of mysticism. And this error also leads them to often disparage the Latin fathers.

Now, as to the issue of simony, I think Peter used very strong language towards Simon Magus when he tried to buy the grace of God. Understanding that sin is crime against God and that God hates it, it is completely unaccep

>>28142
There's a pretty big difference between completely denying the legal aspects of sin and Christian cosmology versus saying that it isn't the fullness of either. Perhaps "analogy" wasn't the best choice of words there, as even if none of those comparisons are the fullness of the Christian life and what Christ accomplished, they are still real aspects of it.
As for simony, it looks to me like you are confusing the church's response with acceptance or disregard. If the church is supposed to be the Body of Christ, perhaps it would help to remember that even Christ Himself does not always immediately crack down with a severe punishment on every sin we commit. How He handles our failings varies, with His work in the life of the Christian often being gradual. As He Himself says, "They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." This isn't to say that every single decision of one's bishop or metropolitan mirrors the mind of Christ, of course, but as Christ tells us to pray even in the midst of our imperfections, "Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven."

Also, your post reminds me that I want to do some more research into Old Testament sacrifice, along with sacrifice in general in the ancient Near East and Mediterranean. I have at least one book on the topic laying around which I forgot about u

>>28123
Literally not an argument. Pagan hymns to Zeus are not holy scripture

>>28124
Did you even bother reading my picrel? Nobody is talking about hymns or whatever nonsense you're going on about. I'm talking about referenced sources and materials of prophets and other important figures saying or doing divine acts, which most definitely existed with good credentials, but are now lost or were nevertheless excised willfully.

This isn't 'referencing' a particular rock existing somewhere or even a foreign king that did so-and-so wicked act, in the context of evil.

>>28125
Scripture directly verbatim quotes pagan hymns. Your argument is that if scripture quotes something it must itself be scripture. Either your argument is bogus, or pagan hymns are scripture. But pagan hymns are not scripture, therefore your argument is bogus.

>>28125
>This isn't 'referencing' a particular rock existing somewhere or even a foreign king that did so-and-so wicked act, in the context of evil.

These are the particular quotes from pagan hymns I had in mind: Acts 17:28 “for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His offspring.’” Titus 1:12 “One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, ‘Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.’” How does this not accord with your given standard of approvingly using material as a source?

>>28119
Pretty par for the course. Don't feel bad about relapse, just keep trying. Again, my best advice is to read the Bible, specifically the King James Bible from start to finish. 

Above all remember: 

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
- Mark 22:37-40

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The Pope's Exorcist is based loosely on the memoirs of Fr. Amorth, so does it count as an outlier of Christian cinema, or is it resigned to the hollywood horror bin?

Surprised no one's said: It's a Wonderful Life yet. Also, more in theme and values than anything but The Homecoming: A Christmas Story (1971) also known as "The Walton's movie" has a lot of Christian sensibility.

I'd also recommend A Christmas Prayer and Bluegrass Christmas. Not as high quality but it was nice seeing something from Great American Family that seemed to intentionally try to showcase a Christian-minded narrative.

>>28115
Nice. Thanks for the recommendations, Anon. Cheers.