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Onion may have brief downtime on the 22nd

Regarding recent events: >>>/meta/4978 

John 3:16 KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


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Today is the Feast of Saint Joseph!

Hail, Guardian of the Redeemer, Spouse of the Blessed Virgin Mary. 
To you God entrusted his only Son; in you Mary placed her trust; with you Christ became man. 
Blessed Joseph, to us too, show yourself a father and guide us in the path of life. 
Obtain for us grace, mercy and courage, and defend us from every evil. Amen.


St Joseph, Spouse of the Mother of God and Foster Father of the Redeemer, obtain for all families the kind of love that will enable married couples to give themselves to each other unconditionally because of the sacramental presence of Christ and their freely-made vows. 
Thanks to a love like that, a family is formed, develops, matures and is a source of peace, unity and happiness for children as well as for parents.
Amen

St. Joseph, you are the chaste and loving spouse of the Virgin Mary, the foster father of Jesus, the protector and provider of the Holy Family and of all families. 
We have complete confidence in your loving care for new life and in your fidelity to the family. 
We commend our efforts to your prayers and protection. 
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St. Joseph, pray for us.
Illustrious son of David, pray for us.
Light of patriarchs, pray for us.
Spouse of the Mother of God, pray for us.
Chaste guardian of the Virgin, pray for us.
Foster father of the Son of God, pray for us.
Watchful defender of Christ, pray for us.
Head of the Holy Family, pray for us.
Joseph most just, pray for us.
Joseph most chaste, pray for us.
Joseph most prudent, pray for us.
Joseph most valiant, pray for us.
Joseph most obedient, pray for us.
Joseph most faithful, pray for us.
Mirror of patience, pray for us.
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>We know the words “Go to Joseph” in the Scriptures; now and always we obey this command. Therefore we shall lie hidden with thee, o patron, we shall rest behind thee, tired and pressed, surrounded by our enemies. Therefore, come now, our champion, swiftly defend us against evil spirit and men; safely deliver us to the goal of our journey, to Jesus, the son of Thy spouse whom thou kept safe; o chaste, o prudent, o faithful Spouse of Mary.

Do any of you have any favorite devotions to Saint Joseph? I personally like the devotion to his Seven Sorrows and Seven Joys.

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The Gnostic Christians were proto protestant in a sense. Before engaging this idea a few understandings must be agreed upon
>there was no gnostic "church"
>they were understood for most of history through the lens of a detractor deeming them heretics, who himself had doctrine considered heretical
>there is no perfect unified system and the beliefs vary
>the idea that could aptly unite them is that knowledge through Christ could offer salvation
This is the notion of salvation through faith alone. It says that nothing you do actually matters, it's what you think, and if what you think is a thought construct on the nature of Christ, his death, his resurrection, the implications of his death in light of the rest of the Bible, etc, that you're as good as saved, even if you sin. I see this as a welcome development and while MOST Christians who espouse salvation through faith alone aggressively would likely reject Gnosticism outright as heresy, they are still focusing on the idea. I think that salvation through faith alone is actually the same idea that much of gnosis derives from.
The issue is that people who preach salvation through faith alone are at odds with Catholics and numerous other christian run off cults that preach works based heresy while consorting with worldly powers, and so they lean heavily on literalism to boost their doctrine. Wha
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>>23899
French writer Rene Guenon, who seemed to like the idea of the salvation through knowledge, and thus could accurately be called 'gnostic', objected to such names precisely because "there had been at least a dozen cults called Gnostic, some of those believed in diametrically opposed things".
You'll only get unhinged replies. Godspeed OP.
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>>23895 (OP) 
>proto protestant
Stopped reading there.
>facebook photo
Ctrl+f "God"
>not one (1) mention of God in his post

>>24588
Hi OP.
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Gnosis
Gnoos-sis
The action of the gnoos
The action of the I
Hylics don't really have an I so they can't gnosis
>>24588
OP's post is unhinged

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Happy Saint Patrick’s Day!
I heard he wasn't canonically a Saint but his works as missionary and bishop makes him a righteous and blessed man. 
Let's discuss him, I know we all know that his definition of the trinity with the shamrock was heresy, but aside that he didn't do anything wrong in what I know.

Dear St. Patrick, 
in your humility you called yourself a sinner,
but you became a most successful missionary
and prompted countless pagans
to follow the Saviour.
Many of their descendents in turn
spread the Good News in numerous foreign lands.
Through your powerful intercession with God,
obtain the missionaries we need
to continue the work you began.
Amen.
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It is unfortunate that his feast day is the occasion for excessive drinking and frankly embarrassing revelry for many.

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Hello and thank you for your time. Ive just been diagnosed with severe pancolitis, my only options left are taking biologic drugs or getting my colon removed. The issue is I have severe OCD when it comres the the mark of the beast and such, I cant sleep without covering my right hand up until recently I wasnt able to take basic medication (laxatives, pain meds , saline and even allergy medication ) out of pure fear, ive gotten past that now but its an example. 

 I have always been afraid of the biologics and eventually somewhatI got over it and went trough testing and screening to start them that is until someone in my family came to me and said something along the likes of ' Oh did you know that noah was allowed to live because he didnt have bad DNA (something about not being mixed with fallen angles) and how if I took this medication it could 'change my dna' somehow because its an antibody MRNA based medication, then they also hinted at  the possibility it could be the mark of the beast in the future. I never really heard of Nephilim before and I dont know a whole lot about Revelations either. 

im runining out of medication I dont have much time left to make my desicion I cant stay on steroids forever, I think I have about 10 days left. Im not even sure they would give me the surgery if I told them I did not want to take biologics even if for religous reasons leaving me no choice but to lie about starting, Im just looking for as much advice and console as possible. 

if y
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>>26464 (OP) 
The nephilim aren't necessarily humans mixed with fallen angels. That's one interpretation. There's another interpretation that doesn't require you to call literal demons "sons of God"...

All from Genesis chapter 6, KJV:
>"1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
>2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."
Godly men chose for themselves wives based on their beauty rather than their godliness. This led to a falling away over the generations into idolatry and wicked violence.
>"4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
There were giants in the earth long after the flood as well, whom the children of Israel contended with after coming into the promised land. The most well-known example being Goliath.
>"5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."
Notice the offspring are still classified as "men", not demons or demigods or whatev
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In Matthew Jesus said that you can love him by spirit, your flesh and mind may be in the wrong idea, but if your spirit is fully devoted to Christ then you're saved no matter what.
>>26464 (OP) 
get the operation fren, God will not damn you for this, you are in Christ and even if you weren't this operation is not sin in anyway.
>>26464 (OP) 
>its an antibody MRNA based medication
you sure? i've never heard of any ulcerative colitis medication being based on MRNA. these medications were made long before MRNA was even a thing (remicane and humera). anyways, i recommend you don't take those medications either way because they will screw your body up. i treat myself with a good diet and quit taking biologics. this is a late reply, so hopefully you read this

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There seems to be a multitude of users on imageboards stuck living generally broken lives. How can /christian/ minister to this?
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>>11599 (OP) 
Ironically, the more the world becomes soulless and empty, the more by contrast the Word of God becomes bright and fulfilling.
Humanity can't live without faith in God, so the more the decaying modern culture tries to push people away from God, the more the thirst of God and holyness of the people remains unsatiated.
So just study the more positive and constructive parts of the message of God, the gifts and blessings which God gives to humanity, and deliver the good news everywhere and anytime, for anyone waiting for God to reach them.
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/thread
and fuck all the jewish diversions and anti-christian propaganda
may God have mercy of their lost and confused souls
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>>23669
Blessed. What movie is that with based 'JUST DO IT' man?
How do Christians that deal with self hatred and identity crisis cope with eternalism. This is not a concern about my appearance, it is a concern about the very fundamentals of me. It's like everything I touch, make, or even type has that strong presence of something I don't like and anything that is expressed as an extension of me. There is something so potent that is so appalling to others, even the mere presence of my gets people to form an unconscious separation from me. As if my identity beyond my body has some bad omen. Idk.
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>>26481
>"For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." Galatians 3:27 KJV

>"For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God." Colossians 3:3 KJV

>"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20 KJV


>"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." 1 John 3:2 KJV

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If you are not already aware, anon.cafe is being shut down on March 15. >>>/meta/16466
Allow me to be as clear as possible: This is NOT the end of /christian/. We have endured shutdowns and deplatforming in the past, and although the board has changed hands many times and lost a lot of users (especially after 8chan went down for good), there are still quite a few users here, and I would hate to lose them again.
I would like to keep the community here as long as possible, and from that point transition to the new board. However, I lack the time, experience, and patience to maintain my own imageboard,
With that being said, I have made a request on zzzchan.xyz to have /christian/ created. Although it is most likely not necessary, you may add your two cents for why you would like /christian/ added to the site. You may view my post here:
https://zzzchan.xyz/meta/thread/137.html#4570
If/When the board is created, I will post more instructions here for how I would like this transition to go. But for now, remain calm, do not panic, and continue posting as usual. We have plenty of time, and I am making sure this transition goes as smoothly as possible.
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>>26477
>>26480
Sturgeon is running into issues with the migration. It seems more and more likely that there may be some downtime between Cafe's shutdown and when we're back again on zzz. But this is not the end of the world, it's a slow board and it going down for a few days should not be that large of a concern.
If there are any threads/images/posts you absolutely want saved. I'd recommend archiving them now.
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>>26484
Did someone archive all the threads on the board yet?
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>>26484
Glad to hear from you BO, and that he's working on a solution. Whatever the process, please be sure to scrape your entire board [1] 'before' March the 15th, UTC. (In other words, on March the 14th). [2]

God bless you Anon. We're all rooting for /christian/ !  :)

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1. I recommend BUMP, ofc:
https://alogs.space/robowaifu/res/12974.html#14866
(plus, use Trashmin's patch):
https://trashchan.xyz/meta/thread/64.html#122

2. The deadline is midnight, just at the end of the 14th. >Tl;dr: the 15th never happens.
https://prolikewoah.com/t/20240315T00
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First Post on zzzchan /christian/
Tis Kinda sad that anon.cafe is shutting down.

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How are you brothers preparing for the season? Have you already promised to follow Jesus as you had not dared to before? Have you renounced the works of the Evil One to enter the Father's house with Jesus? What's keeping you?
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Giving up masturbation
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>>26424
You are not supposed to leave something that is already a sin.
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Do protestants celebrate Lent? Born and raised Catholic I really have no clue about what they do for most things. Looking online it seems the answer is "it depends" but I'd like some more information than that. I should learn about Protestants in general. What even is a Baptist? I've only posted to this board once like 3 years ago so sorry for not lurking but I don't plan on being a regular.
>>26422 (OP) 
Saying a rosary during my commute and also really for real no fapping for good this time.
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>>26435
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with using a season of prayer and fasting as time to rid oneself of habitual mortal sin, as long as he doesn't intend to take up the habit again as soon as Lent is over.
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>>26422 (OP) 
I'm struggling a lot with personal issues but still trying to do what I can for this time of the year.
>bible readings
Whenever I feel down I try to avoid sin and read passages to comfort myself
>praying to Our Lady
I used to be a very devoted prayer of the Rosary but sadly I couldn't keep the habit, so I pray with fervor when I feel it in my heart because I don't think praying while feeling "obligued" would please the Lord and Our Lady (it's more complicated than that but it has to do with faith crisis, mostly).
>fasting
I dedicate every moment of hunger to the Lord, eating once or twice a day
>no masturbation
Self-explanatory

I pray that all my brothers in Christ grow spiritually and in virtue, may all our brothers please the most high during this time of the year with their acts of penance, meditation and virtue.
Please, if you're reading this, I beg you to also pray for me, a filthy sinner going through hardships but still carrying my crosses and keeping my hopes alive, I give thanks to the holy trinity and the divine love of Our Lady for never abandoning me.
 Jesus Christ be praised.

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Doing research for a project and am traveling across the internet to discuss the Christian cartoons and or media people grew up on.
Born in 2000, I was raised on Vegetales and hand me down 1980s-early 90s vhs tapes like Donut Man, Bible Man, Commander Kellie, Davie and Goliath, and Psalty. Watched whatever was on TBN Saturday morning inbetween Kids WB and 4Kids TV, but when I got older I watched TBN less and less as most nineties/early aughts Christian cartoons are just a couple episodes and then they rerun it ad nauseum while secular toons had seasonal progression or frequent new shows coming out.
Many people in my church life my age are born again Christians or straight up never heard of anything outside of Vegetales and I was surprised when my former youth pastor who was an 80s kid had zero knowledge of Christian media before the years he started ministering 
Honestly, in some of my research, a lot of this stuff was just Christian record store distributed or broadcast on local channels. Some of them are sincere 
>Vegetales and Adventures in Odyssey
But most are very subdued, bland, or straight up just vague educational programming just rerunninng on a Christian network
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>>26091
>The new ones just look scary, maybe it has to do with a bigger budget and dipping more into uncanny valley,
Dunno if you're talking about the mid 2010s Netflix series, or the new stuff that just ended. Personally I feel like Vegetales' run post 2011 has been a pendulum swing, as making a project without big investors means going on a roller coaster. So they had to make "in the house" a show about vague educational values and not the gospel. Wikipedia says the creators haven't been in control since 2004 and stopped being involved altogether in 2021. So there's a reason for the oddness
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>>26113
I remember watching the Pirates Who Don't Do Anything movie and being surprised there wasn't a single mention of God or really any moral lesson, just a generic kids action movie. Felt really weird to me that Christianiy wasn't in it at all.
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>>26117
Supposedly they thought that the explicit Christian content of the Jonah movie limited the film's market. Ironically, Jonah was the more successful film of the two by a considerable margin.
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OP again, I saw this video on /v/ a few months ago and just remembered it.
Not really a fan of it, since it feels more like anger towards specific denominations and America in general. But there are some points I do agree with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COiNrIM9KVE
thoughts?
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About good christian medias today I suggest Scrooge 2022
It's not the Muppets or the 80s version but really had a real and faithful understanding of the story

Here you can tell Scrooge would have all the reasons to hate Christmas as a day, being the day of great losses and personal tragedies
But with love and faith from the 3 Spirits and his surviving family he manages to realize life is a blessing and grace and shouldn't be wasted

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Why did the angels help Lot escape?
His family were the only people of God left in the city, and they were being harassed by the sodomites who wanted to gangrape them. The angels delivered them from physical harm.
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>>26050
But he offered the sodomites his daughters to rape in the place of the angels. 
I suppose they did turn out to be incestuous scum in the end who raped Lot, but still.

Maybe the angels didn't hear that offer of his, but if it was me, I would've gone "never mind" and ditched them all.
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>>26059
Yes, but what else happens? The very daughters that Lot offered up to be raped went on to rape Lot, giving birth to the Moabites and the Ammonites enemies of Israel. So perhaps Lot was punished after all.
Lot paid for his poor judgement when he left his uncle to live with the sodomites. This is very dense Scripture, but I often think of it as a cautionary tale against compromising with the ungodly and their ways. Seriously, how can you raise children to love and fear the Lord in any major globohomo-infested ((( cosmopolitan ))) Western city?
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>Seriously, how can you raise children to love and fear the Lord in any major globohomo-infested ((( cosmopolitan ))) Western city?
Based post

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So I am sort of Bi although a devout Christian (Yes call me a fag IDK) and I am fucking annoyed with the LGBT community to no ends. I have a friend who is a Lesbian Atheist that agrees with a lot of morality that Christian ideology brings and even she notices that the LGBT community is self sabatoging. They like to present themselves as a community that wants to love their partners but in practice they are just constantly hooking up with one another. The LGBT community should have gatekept more in my opinion or needs to be shamed when they behave in a sort of manner.

Like I personally don't give a shit if 2 guys wanna slam the ass and you are free to disagree with me but I do think that the fucking pride parade types are fucking atrocious. Its like they revolve their entire lifestyle arround being gay as if it was their own religion.

I even have a theory that men who become women are the main vectors of disease because they believe that the more men wanna have sex with them then the more they pass and are validated.
IDK where the fuck this rant is going but I just wanted to talk about that shit.

Personally I have a lot of gay friends but they are almost always very much against the gay community and are Christian themselves, asside from that one girl.
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>>26024
This is an imageboard after all so one should expect to see some degree of caustic speech, but I would agree its not helpful.
>>26036
I'd say there are a few things we should separate. One is engaging on homosexual activity. That's wrong and disordered and, thankfully, I doubt I have to convince anyone here about that. We all know it's a heinous sin. Even in cultures like Ancient Greece, marriage was always between a man and a woman, homosexual relationships were more like a past time, always between people with a huge age gap and didn't involve anal penetration, which was seen as unnatural.

Now, people may also have homosexual temptations. That's no different from many other sexual temptations. You must not lust after a woman, you must not see her as a way to placate your desires; straight people also deal with a lot of sexual temptation. Straight people can also feel attracted to people they shouldn't date: maybe they're already in a relationship, or there's an age difference, or you've had the bad luck to fall in love with your cousin. Feelings can play all sort of nasty tricks on you, what matters is that you recognize what's right and what isn't and follow that instead of your feelings, no matter how intense they are.

There's a third thing, and it's what is sometimes called "homosexual affection". I may be nicer to a girl cause she's cute and I find her pleasant, even though I'm not planing to date her, and I can do so without lusting after her. She's just nice to be around and I'm just being kind. Some people have an easier
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Also, I'd love to hear testimony from people who are homosexual and practicing Christians (that is, they live chastely). If anyone could share their experience or knows of some good interviews, it'd be lovely. It's a topic that comes up a lot and people do have genuine sometimes honest questions about it, and not just the usual "but I like wrong why it has to be bad".
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>>26053
If they're "chaste homosexuals", they're just chaste and confused, but at least they're not sinning. Ask God to show you the truth.
Matthew 7:7
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."
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>>26052
>"But I can't choose what I'm attracted to!". Precisely, all the more reason to not let it define you.
100% truth, anon. That's the problem with hypersexuality, people who suffer it often let it define them. Ever noticed how people addicted to hentai are always freaking out about how much they like l*lis? Furries make their whole personality revolve around being an anthropomorphic animal, etc

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