/christian/ - christian

>>26947 (OP) 
I think the Scripture makes it rather clear when it is read within its context. What were the Israelites doing at the time of these passages? They were turning to the pagan idols, the fallen angels, or they were attempting to create a false god in which to worship. Scripture is not against images or art because we know what was described within the Holy of Holies and upon the Ark of Covenant. The issue is the inversion of worship. Whereas God creates man in His image, the pagans create their gods in man's image. They carve up and make an idol in which they think that their god will reside as if trapped and answer their bidding, not unlike the tales of the genie in the bottle. The God of the Israelites was the complete opposite. He chose where His dwelling place would be and would not attempt to be contained, and much wrath would come if one did so. An example is the capture of the Ark and the misery that followed it from city to city.

Worship as patterned upon Heaven is always given to God alone. Veneration is simply a deep respect or reverence for holy things. Mary, as seen through Catholic and Orthodox lenses, is the Theotokos, the Mother of God. Something even Luther had no problem with. We give a great amount of veneration to her because she is the new Ark of the Covenant, the new Eve. The only groups of Christians who do not believe in the veneration of holy persons or o

>>26947 (OP) 
Being far more carnally specific then the above poster. Look at the catholic's leaders head peices/hats. Notice how it looks like a fish with its mouth open. Now go read Judges 16:23, 1 Samuel 5:1-7, and the wikipedia page on dagon. Now go look at pictures of the vatican. Ask yourself why there is so many images of random things unrelated to the Bible in the vatican and start looking into the meaning behind the images. Now go a step further and look at every depiction of Jesus ever and compare it to Revelation 1:12-18

Let me surmise it simply; maybe at one point the universalists were actually a sect of Christianity, maybe they weren't. But nowadays their leaders are clearly dagon worshippers with imagery of babylonian talmudic origin mixed in. Also its a terrible idea to seperate Christians from another by labels e.g 1 Corinthians 3:1-5
>AND I, brethern, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
>I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither now are ye able.
>For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
>For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollo

>Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ
Should be
>Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.

My spelling is absolutely terrible. the above should be 
>AND I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
>I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
>For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
>For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
>Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

>>26837
Pretty much, when you think about it. Since the historicity of Christ, the early church, and the events of the OT grow stronger each day with modern archaeology, most atheists are left with attempting to attack the base of the Jenga blocks to topple the tower. But doing so is futile since they can't disprove what we already know happened.

>>26837
I say no because you have the really common (and autistic) argument that "believing in God used to be reasonable, but now we have Science(tm)" which is difficult to decipher as to what that's even supposed to mean, let alone connect it to something so specific.

>>26822
Documents were never dated that way even by secularists because at best that would only give you the age of the materials not the text.

>>26849
So, would it be best to frame it instead as a clash of opposing epistemologies? Empiricism versus rationalism.

>>24165
The Septuagint hands down. Required viewing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI1yRTC6kGE

>>26892
I have never heard it ever enterained anywhere that he held any inclination of gnostic thought. The problem with being creative is that people will see whatever they want within your work despite what you intend.

>I have never heard it ever enterained anywhere

A quick search could easily show you it is a pretty old topic in multiple languages.

>>26898
 A quick Google search could reveal many things and yet not make it a mainstream suggestion.

>>26900
>I need things to be in the mainstream in order to consider them
May I suggest returning to cuckchan or plebbit?

>>26915
Do you need an echo chamber?

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Five hundred years is a long time to be separated from family. You should make up and return to them, Luther-kun.

>>25918
Nice

>>25918
Broom of destruction +1

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Christian Book Collection Downloads

https://archive.org/details/@christian_book_collection

Richard Carrier peer review academic rebuttal. Use when that brit schizo spams his book on 4chan

Telegram requires a smartphone so I can't join.

Of course I assume after 10 days you probably gave up anyways, but Revolt doesn't require a phone. But in general... this board is dead... so I'm not sure how a spinoff would not be dead as well. I think there's very little hope for continuous all week fellowship through the internet.

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First a glowie wants to glow even the Holy Bible (get a life, seriously). Then Kohen wants to shout this ministry is dead. With all due respect, BO... but nevermind. Let's sit and wait what will come next. I'd wager JoSfaggots and asatrutrannies are just around the corner.

Can we not have a Bible study thread? If the thread doesn't have a reply limit we can just keep it going as we move through the year, and anyone can jump right in.

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always remember

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>>26796
Based, and a sobering start.

>remove religion
>promote degeneracy
This is the part I can't stomach. How many will not be lost to the current state of things and their triumphant brokenness. I feel it in my heart that I have to be open to the possibility that righteous people exist at God's pleasure, everywhere and nowhere, in every niche of the socio-political landscape but for the most egregiously demonic. Test, with patience and loving kindness, because Jesus said so. I pray that our civility stands on His spiritual reality, and not on any secular reason. This is how the people of the God prepare to look at worldly things without becoming worldly themselves. Amen.

Consider this, please. Both candidates are 777% what Schlomohomo wants. Both ostensively give a living demon like Netanyahu whatever he wants, among a laundry list of scandals. It may be the case that no institutional politicians would ever even become présidentiable without ((( their ))) blessing. I don't know what we should be doing about this, honestly. A Christian party? Aren't there too many already? Not in the US, but does that even matter? Any dealings with these people, whom we test as per the above, and most unfortunately, are literally jumping into a pit of spiritual vipers. Christian anarchist ways? I have an interest in p

>>26796
Just as the video in this anon's reply says, no matter what happens with this election or any elections thereafter, Jesus will win. The Word of God will be fulfilled. Of course, I am also aware that the outcome of the election will also have immediate and long-term effects on our current society, outcomes that have the potential to bring some amount of pain and suffering. Even so, I'm thankful for this chance for people to learn/be reminded of this valuable lesson: "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:23 NKJV)."
People rely a lot on elected officials and leaders. Oftentimes, many will put these leaders on a pedestal, see them as untouchable, infallible. But of course, every single one of them is human, guilty of sin like everyone else. As the election process continues, and political candidates/leaders continue to make mistakes, I pray that people will turn their gaze upward to see the One who is truly infallible: our loving Father. 
Of course, if there is some way for the election to become more reasonable and less tumultuous, I would be very thankful. 

>>26798
Your reply is very thought provoking, thank you. Sadly I don't have answers to all of your questions, but I do have some thoughts. 
>I don't know what we should be doing about this, honestly. A Christian party?

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>'Alien' perspectives lovingly appreciated.
What did he mean by this?

>>26852
Aliens can believe in Christ also...right?

>>25506
Losing the forest for the trees.

Also this board is a psyop and the owners want you to be ignorant of occult powers. Don't bother digging into the same old things, research.

>>25507

1. They know what the doctrine is. They wilfully choose to subvert it. Not just ignore it - they lie and say it confirms the things they're pushing. You know this.

2. Their dogmatism, i.e. their willingness to excommunicate you for wrongthink is stronger than mine is. If they're pushing people out then there isn't middle ground to lean into. You know this.

Your psy operation, produce evidence or examples please, and your examination of the occult maybe worthwhile except that it's less powerful than to do as you said and get stuck into the bible instead.

There's no "I win" to any of this stuff here either, if it wasn't worthwhile to post I wouldn't do it. I'm not gonna sit here and flex piety on you as I tried to demonstrate prior that I haven't got any.

>>25507
>to be ignorant of occult powers
There are no occult powers. Show me an occultist with powers and I will show you a fraud. Modern occultists are frauds and pimp out book after book to gullible idiots. They are no better than the self-help crowd. If you had occult powers, you wouldn't be here that is for sure.

"Satanist" is a politically correct term for a Jew or a wannabe Jew (freemason, left-hand-path occultist, whatever) anyway.

>There are no occult powers.
There exists one, and it's a terrible power. It is called Deception. Occultists (and Jews, since an Occultist is basically a Gentile who desperately wants to be a Jew) are people who are really good at swindling, lying, and cheating, which certainly does help them to get ahead in the society of liars, cheaters and swindlers.

>nujaks

>>23278
>Even a child knows that if the universe had a beginning, then something must have existed before it.
That just moves things one step backwards.
>>26725
Even worse, it is AI generated.

>>26726
That just moves things one step backwards.
To the uncaused source of all things, which is logically necessary for the existence of something which does have a cause.
Its a simple premise; anything that has a begin, and we know the universe does for multiple reasons such as entropy, requires something to begin it. 
>That just moves it back
Is a non-argument in the first place, since it still doesn't provide an explanation for how anything exists. Indeed, materialism can never explain how anything exist. The very nature of everything in the universe requires something unbound by that nature to even be here.If nothing uncaused could exist, than nothing could exist.

But the universe itself cannot be this uncaused source because know it had a beginning, we know it is undergoing entropy and changing into an ultimate state of uniformity which is fundamentally incompatible with the idea that the universe always existed because then the universe would have 'already' reached that state
In short, the finite logically cannot exist without the infinite.

>incites extreme racial supremacy
>and woman oppression
>utter schizo shit

Stop making demon worshippers sound good.

>>22029
so trve anon, so trve