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John 3:16 KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


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Merry Christmas
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>>22586 (OP) 
CHRIST IS BORN!
Merry Christmas to all of you. May Christ be praised.
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>>26182
MERRY CHRISTMAS, /CHRISTIAN/!
'May God bless you all richly this year.'
Merry Christmas everyone!
I'm totally late, but merry Christmas!

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I'm just curious to hear your guys story, how and what did God do and give you to finally defeats your bad habits and the such (I don't have any files really so here's a random image)
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I've been 3 weeks and 4 days without porn, acting out and i have zero desire to use it, what helped me was being reborn in a baptism where the old sinful self dies and i am a new creation in Christ. I'm not 100% how to do this successfully since i got baptized before and nothing happened. Perhaps it's about the belief you have tied to them baptism, or read every passage about baptism because there lies the explanation or death and rebirth with Christ. I would say ask God to help you and seek God, and becareful that your vice doesn't get the better of you.
I haven't. In fact as I am typing this post, I am wiping my left hand with a dirty cloth. The problem, I think, is that I dont recognize a need to turn down my vices, after all, its not something that interferes with my life, nor am i doing them in copious amounts that one would look down on me as a degenerate. Either I continue this path (which slowly kills me) or go full addict and finally feel the need to abstain completely from this vice.
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>>23633
Steal from the rich corporations, they deserve it as they're greedy and all the money they got wasn't earned but gained by wickedness or by abusing the poor man.
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>>26169
Eh, I dunno. Not because "stealing bad." But because when they're not getting my money, their ideas/products are still getting my time and attention. And there is a subtle absurdity in using modern concepts/products to combat, or to comfort the self from, modern concepts/products. It's like buying the antidote from the same merchant who sold the poison. Neither can any group that forms as a response to the aforementioned thing have a lasting answer. Because the existence of such groups are dependent on the existence of what they're reacting to. It seems the only winning move, is to not play.
>>26169
>Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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> Be in 4th grade
> Still care about sports
> Am a Red Sox fan, just like my Dad
> Heard about the Bambino Curse (Baseball is the most superstitious sport there is)
> Heard about how people can get anything they want if they sell their soul to the devil, albeit at a horrible price
> Figure "Hey! Well if all these people in these dumb stories always sell their souls for selfish reasons, why not sell one's soul for a higher purpose? The greater good?"
> Greatest good my Elementary school ass can think of is the Red Sox finally winning the world series
> Have an imaginary conversation with the Devil where I agree to sell my soul if they win
> It happens
> Boston Red Sox miracuolusly win for the first time in 86 years
Am I fucked, guys?
Did it really happen? Did I actually sell my soul? It's not like I performed a ritual or whatever. I was just imagining a conversation, and acting like it was real.
But is that what all conversations with God and the supernatural are? Did I do something unforgivible? Would it matter that I was an elementary schooler, and viewed it as a selfless act?
I could use some advice. This question has been plaguing me ever since, and I'm almost 30 now. I guess I'll never know for sure until I die, but still...
It'd be nice if there was some way I could determine whether I've damned myself, and/or figure out how to repent and go about my life in peace.
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>>26065
You can't really "sell" your soul because our souls belong to God alone. What you can do is place yourself under great demonic influence in order to obtain something. When entering a pact with a demon, the demon is hoping to lead you to self-destruction by disrupting the communion you have with Christ. However, repentance is always possible up until you take your last breath. So remain in a constant state of repentance with a contrite heart and you will not have to worry. If you haven't been baptized yet, please do as that really pisses off the demons!
>I pretended I was in Satan's legal office with the hamburgler acting as a notary he seemed to somehow let onto Grimace walking past us I don't know what he was doing in Hell's legal deparment anyway I gave them my next door neighbor's soul and then I was riding my mobility scooter heading to Walmart when three men dressed as a chicken mcnugget started beating me up they called me a plump pee pee chunkolicious soyboy fatty, I was laying there on the ground crying when I saw there was a McDonalds bag it looked full and it had four hamburgers inside even an extra one from what I'd asked for and I read a note inside it it said; "Courtesy of mayor mccheese". I'm worried I was just a kid I didn't know and then the next day my neighbor died his recto-colonic exam had been wrong I think I'm responsible there was no other way it to happen pls resond

Your soul doesn't belong to you you are a rental unit anon - you've probably just put a few dings in there that'll be paid for from your deposit
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>>26078
sounds like the dream i had last night
The only way you can sell your soul is if you succumb to the Devil's wickedness.
You seem to have repented, and I'm not sure how Devil Deal work (nor I want to know) but if there is no sign of paper or handshake or any possession involved then may just be fantasy like ghosts are
>>26062 (OP) 
>Worried I may have accidentally sold my soul to...
Your soul is not your to sell, you belong to God and you have been bought at high price.

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how should christian celebrate Hanukkah?
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Is Hanukkah even a religious holiday amongst the Jews or is it just a cultural celebration? In any case, to the OP's question of how should a Christian celebrate Hanukkah, I think one should take the opportunity to read the books of the Machabees.
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>>26121
>Is Hanukkah even a religious holiday amongst the Jews or is it just a cultural celebration?
well...both.
Judaism is both a religion and a culture, Hanukkah for jews is both religious (how God was with them) and culturally (how jews managed to win the war).
Some orthodox christians celebrate Hanukkah as Jesus Christ being the candle that shines brighter than the other candles and so completed the holiday
>>26120
>According to John he went to the city during the day and had no problem about it
>no problems
>31 At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him. 32 But Jesus responded, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?”
Kek. The Jewish leaders were just as spiteful and hateful to Jesus Christ during that time (probably even moreso).  :^)

But fair enough, since the revolt allowed the Temple to be cleansed of the desecration by the Romans, it was clearly preparatory to the appearance of the the Messiah, the entire world's salvation, Jesus of Nazareth the completion of all the Law & the Prophets, the founder of Christianity, and the Glory of God throughout all eternity. Fair enough.
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>>26108
That was not a genuine act of anti semetism
>>26135
He had no problem about Hanukkah as an holiday.
Jews had a problem with him.
But Jesus didn't say that Hanukkah was wrong to celebrate as if was man made and without fundements like Pharisees laws were

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Hello, all.  I'd like to discuss the philosophy of the internet that a christian should take and hold.

Beliefs

1.). The internet should be used by people to exercise the ultimate goodness that they have,  because the internet allows human beings to fully express themselves through editing and rethinking the content they send to others.  Whereas one may be foolish and say things they regret in real life, they have a higher capacity to be the ultimate good and ultimate expression of themselves  through virtual communication. All content a christian produces should edify the reader because of their increased capacity to do so.  You must post and type not as you would speak to someone. On the internet, you are held to a higher standard than you are in real life. 

2.) The internet allows for people to band together and communicate across long distances and thus it ought to be used to spread the word of God and show the love of he has shown us.

3.) The internet is not a replacement for social interaction.  The internet as per the first point is a place where human beings can express their ultimate goodness to one another by the nature of a post (able to proof read, able to gather thoughts clearly, and able to see your own words from afar.) The internet can be used for connecting initially but it must advance towards the natural end of an interaction between two present real human beings at some point.  Staying soley fixiated on a relationship with someone online may stagnate yo
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>>25994
>Brendan Eich
Another reason is that he was explicitly singled-out and targeted for attack, roughly during the 2008 election era IIRC (maybe it was 2012 instead?), by the Leftists and all the usual suspects involved with Marxism in the US. Turns out he made a US$1'000 donation to an organization that was staunchly pro-family (IIRC this was about the time the DOMA was under attack and eventually overturned by the sodomites, et al). Some journalist in the Jewish-controlled media got wind of it, and they proceeded to all dogpile onto Brendan because of his Christian, pro-family stance; beginning with a pro-sodomite dating site that banned Firefox browswers, and made a big show of doing so.

So, after 25+ years as a founder, CEO, and lead programmer, he stepped down from his own organization once several loud-mouthed zealots from within attacked him. These Communists & Jews all cheered about it at the time, but jokes on them.

He quickly began building a quite operation behind the scenes that eventually became the Brave browser & ecosystem for privacy. While everyone else has rushed to grovel at the invasive G*ogle, Brave has slowly built a resistance faction to that police-state-like evil. The Internet has been better because of this outcome ever since, though it clearly cost him at the time.

>tl;dr
'Bre
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>>25996
Wow.
I've never heard about this guy but seems like he's quite important. FF went pozzed about right after he left, it seems. I used to be a long-time FF user but nowadays I always use Brave unless I for some reason need a very specific extension. On my tablet and phone, where FF is a nerfed down version anyway, I use Brave 100% of the time.
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>>26139
Nice. I actually pay for their (somewhat more expensive) VPN service as well, US$9.99 . I figure it's well worth it to support something that doing real good on the Internet (for the time-being at least), for a service I'd want anyway. They're also far less -likely to be in bed with the 5 Eyes as well. Cheers.
1.) A minute spent on the internet is a minute spent away from God.

2.) Aside from divine grace; read point 1.

I think I've got it down correctly already anon.
The internet is too good at providing nerd media with sex appeal.

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What are Your Guys on the Eastern Orthodox Church are in of you part of it do you think its the true church what do you disagree with and or agree with?
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>>25715
I've skimmed his work, if he truly was that wound up about it, he could've moved to Greece. But he didn't, he was just the first of  (un?)witting jewish tools used to further split the church. You do know that the Orthodox are the only ones who still don't have women clergy and denounce gays? Since our clergy marry, we also don't have closet homos in our ranks like our Roman brothers have to deal with. 
>What do you mean? Are you saying that people who agree with what Luther wrote are like those guys who said they were "of Paul" instead of Christ?  
Yes, for even St. Paul himself had to tell them to stop it, since He was only in the Service of Christ. Notice that all of the ones you quote are Roman Orders, of whom none but the Jesuits are active, and their fruits are very well known, just as any Roman Catholic what they think of them.
>Point about Pope JPII
So you mean to say that because of rhetoric attributed to him, he acted on that prose? Words without deeds are as faith without works.
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>>25719
>Brings Up Pious X
>Conflating Orthodoxy with rebellion
>Expecting the Orthodox to care what any Pope
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>>25706
It was nice, only was in the area for a little bit and only got to enjoy it a few times, the priest actually retired which is a shame as he was the only priest in the US that had permission to use that liturgy
Orthodox Andrew Wilson made Matt Dillahunty rage quit recently. Afterwards the Q&A turned into Andrew vs the room. Basically, Matt made liberals explode because he said a man is not a woman. 😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8U34ezKvrU
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>>25944
>Matt made liberals explode
Crap, I meant to type Andrew
Fellow Orthodox how accurate is this Bing response? I have been playing around more with its AI features and I asked it to create a rebuttal for me. 
The prompt:
>A rebuttal against the claim that Orthodox Christians use the Church canons and Church fathers the same way rabbinic Jews use the Talmud.

The response:
<The claim that Orthodox Christians use the Church canons and Church fathers the same way rabbinic Jews use the Talmud is based on a misunderstanding of both traditions. The Church canons and Church fathers are not sources of authority in themselves, but rather witnesses to the apostolic tradition that is preserved and transmitted by the Holy Spirit in the Church. The Church canons and Church fathers are not binding on every Orthodox Christian in every situation, but rather provide guidance and direction for the faithful in different contexts and circumstances. The Church canons and Church fathers are not meant to be interpreted literally or legalistically, but rather spiritually and pastorally, taking into account the whole of Scripture, Tradition, and Reason. The Church canons and Church fathers are not static or fixed, but rather dynamic and flexible, allowing for development and adaptation in response to new challenges and opportunities.

The Talmud, on the other hand, is a collection of rabbinic interpretations and discussions of the Torah (the first five books of the Hebrew Bible) and other Jew
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Greetings in this Wonderful Christmas time! I'm Orthodox who will be visiting lower WV the weekend before Christmas to see its beauty and scout possible investment opportunities. I would love to see if there are any lower WV Orthodox lurkers who can invite me to their parish to network and ask questions about the local area. From a cursory glance, I see that there are some ROCOR and Antiochian parishes in the area, but emailing the priest of one yielded no liturgical schedule information. Are the ROCOR and Antiochians old calendarists or something?
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>>26005 (OP) 
Please don't doxx yourself on this forum, OP. At least find & use a throwaway email address if you honestly intend to communicate away-from-keyboard with ppl here. (Just use the email field in the reply systems.) Please remember, not everyone here may be kindly anons happy to help. Some may be more like Jews, and have nothing but ill-intent towards you. 

Good luck with your search OP. That's some beautiful land there in the Appalachians! Cheers.  :)
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>>26006
You really think I would do that, just go on the internet and break opsec? If I get a bite, I will be dropping a public key that that they can encrypt their email with, preserving security. In any case, thanks for the concern, its just that with horror I realize that there really isn't a universal directory for Orthodox parishes.
>>26005 (OP) 
I am Orthodox but not in that neck of the woods. If you will be near the Hermitage of the Holy Cross, I would strongly recommend visiting. The monastery is near the western end of the state. Here is the monastery website:
https://www.holycross.org/

>Are the ROCOR and Antiochians old calendarists or something?
The vast majority of ROCOR parishes are on the Julian calendar unless they are Western Rite is my experience. I am not sure about the Antiochian parishes.
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>>26008
I actually am already aware of them and subscribe to their channel on jewtube, but sadly they will be a good almost 2 hours from where I will be staying. Thanks for the information, thoughever!
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Thread for discussing and sharing literature relevant to the Christian faith.

I bought a copy of The Pilgrim's Progress, I read it years ago in high school and I really wanted to go through it again without staring at a PDF, and it makes for good reading before bed. I had no idea there was a part two in the story as well, where after Christian makes it to the Celestial City his wife and children go on their own journey to it as well. Apparently in high school we only ever read part one.

What have you been reading lately?
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Finished part 2 of Pilgrim's Progress, not as interesting as the first and a bit cliche, as they just retread Christian's steps and generally bypass, ignore, or destroy all the obstacles he had to face head-to-head with very little effort. Part one is very good though and a must-read for any Christian.
Would like suggestions for what to start next. I tried The Silmarillion a couple years ago but there are so many names and stories to keep track of that I was completely lost by the time I was halfway throught it.
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>>25498 (OP) 
This has been a pretty good reference book for me: The Story of Christianity: Volume Number 1
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>>25856
>Would like suggestions for what to start next
I am just about to finish book 3 The Sword of the Lictor of the Book of New Sun series. It is a masterful series, the Christian themes are there but not in your face like the Chronicles of Narnia series, and are probably hidden a bit more than even The Lord of the Rings. Some elements do stand right out such as a lot of the characters throughout the story are named after early Christian martyrs and saints. So if you want a challenge I would definitely recommend this series but pair it with the Alzabo Soup podcast.
https://www.alzabosoup.com/

Another suggestion that I highly recommend is the book Laurus picrel. Russian author so it is heavy with Orthodox themes but it is such a wonderful read.
>>25863
Just bought a copy, I'll review it once it gets here in a couple weeks
>>25863
Came in the mail today, was not expecting it to be a textbook. I also ordered the first edition from 1999 that has volumes 1 and 2 combined, so I'll be reading this for a while. Maybe the scribbles and notes in it from whatever seminary student had to study from it 20 years ago will be helpful as well.

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After going through some ideas in the meta thread, one that I've been considering a lot lately is creating a dedicated, stickied thread that acts as a guide for anything and everything Christianity. This includes different versions of the Bible, texts from Church fathers and scholars, literature, education material, films, TV shows, music, podcasts, everything that would be beneficial to both old and new believers alike. Each of it will be organized in one very large thread for easy browsing. And that's where (You) come in.
If you have something that falls into any category listed above (and then some), post it here.
>If you have a link, post it along with a working archive (VERY important. Once it's on the Internet, it's there forever, until it isn't.). Use a website like https://archive.fo/ to check for and make backups.
>If it's an image, document, or audio/video file, post a link to it and post the file in the thread as well. I will work on getting these archived somewhere like Mega that allows playing them back in the browser. You may download YouTube videos using ytp-dl or through various Invidious instances (https://invidio.us) that allow downloading.
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>>25906
tell me what a besom is without looking it up
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>>25909
>"22For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD. 23I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts."
Isaiah 14:22-23 KJV
From the context of something God is sweeping with, I'd guess "a broom".

Whether my answer is correct or incorrect, it still helps my learning. When I come across a word I don't know, I take it as an opportunity to look it up (which I will do after I click 'reply').
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>>25918
Nice
>>25918
Broom of destruction +1
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Christian Book Collection Downloads

https://archive.org/details/@christian_book_collection

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It's remarkable how much academia has engaged in textual criticism of the New Testament, questioning every jot and tittle of the Greek manuscripts, yet comparatively barely any attention has been directed by them towards the Old Testament. Not that we should wish those atheistic scandalizers should desecrate the text, but I wanted to bring this subject to attention of the board for some opinions on it: what is the authentic text of the Old Testament? The vast majority of modern Bible translations use the Jewish Masoretic Text, which was composed by Pharasaic Jews in the 10th century, some 2000 years after the events described in it took place. It makes no sense that Christendom should be using an adulterated text from a sect that by its very nature is anti-Christian. But then what remains? From what I can tell, there are the following sources:

- Jerome's Latin Vulgate (from circa 400 AD), which he translated out of the original Hebrew from the ancient manuscripts available to him
- The Syriac Peshitta (100 - 200 AD), while the New Testament appears to derive from the Greek manuscripts, the Old Testament seems to be of a parallel tradition to the Septuagint. Syriac is a language that is related to Aramaic and Hebrew, so it's less likely to have misrenderings as a result of having to translate from a Semitic to an Indo-European language, and it uniquely contains some elements that provide additional context for events.
- The Targums (200 BC - 200 AD), informal spoken translati
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Codex Sassoon Heads to Auction
>Sotheby’s has announced the upcoming auction of Codex Sassoon aka The Damascus Pentateuch. They are dubbing it “The Earliest, Most Complete Hebrew Bible” and anticipating that, at $30–50m, it could be “the highest valued manuscript or historical document ever offered at auction.” From their description:

>The earliest, most complete copy of the Hebrew Bible is actually a book known as Codex Sassoon, named for its most prominent modern owner: David Solomon Sassoon (1880–1942), a passionate collector of Judaica and Hebraic manuscripts. Dating to the late 9th or early 10th century, Codex Sassoon contains all 24 books of the Hebrew Bible – missing only 12 leaves – and precedes the earliest entirely complete Hebrew Bible, the Leningrad Codex, by nearly a century.

https://www.sothebys.com/en/articles/sassoon-codex-oldest-most-complete-hebrew-bible
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>>23737
Why is it called a Pentateuch if it's a complete Old Testament?
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>>23737
finna whip this bad boy out and start quoting from it any time i get in an argument about religion.
>>23738
The original article I found about it seemed to be confused between two manuscripts, Sassoon 507 is the Damascus Pentateuch but the one being auctioned is actually Sassoon 1053. It also seems that someone took photos of it before it was privately bought:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tanakh-MS-Sassoon-1053
https://archive.org/details/Sassoon_1053_Tanakh
Wasn't sure where to post this. This is a 6-hour Greek Bible study but actually covers a lot of deep material. It has an interdenominational group, with a Jewish guy, a Catholic priest, an Orthodox priest (Fr. Stephen De Young), a Calvinist, a Coptic Christian, and a few other Orthodox Christians. This 6-hour video is just the first meeting, and I am only 4 hours in, but I think it will address for sure some of the questions that OP asks as well bringing to light many questions during the 2nd Temple and elsewhere. It was from this video that I learned about Islamic mythicism and that Islam may really just be a heretical Christian with Muhammed being just a made-up character. They have continued on with a few more meetings. Not sure if they are completely done. But this is really good stuff. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSjatPfFKlI

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