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>>24899
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My denarium.

>>26191
While you can draw some parallels between Christ and the Ten Commandments (and manna) contained in the Ark of the Covenant, it's not a perfect analogy. 
-Christ is also the lamb of God who taketh away the sins of the world. The blood of the animal sacrifice was sprinkled upon the mercy seat, which was upon the lid of the Ark of the Covenant, whereupon God appeared in the cloud. This doesn't fit with Mary being the Ark. 
-Uzzah was struck dead for touching the Ark in an attempt to save it from falling off the cart and hitting the ground. There's no record of anyone being struck dead for touching Mary while helping her. 
-The Ark was carried from place to place and kept in the Tabernacle, and later, the Temple.
-Mary was never kidnapped as a spoil of war like the Ark was.
-50,070 men were smitten by the Lord for looking into the Ark (1 Sam. 6:19).
-The contents of the Ark remained there permanently (at least they were supposed to). Christ didn't remain in Mary as a permanent abode.

And you're looking back after two millenia. Would Joseph have even considered this analogy?

This >>26137 goes too far. I don't remember any scripture about Mary being prideful.

The scriptures reference Jesus' brothers and sisters (Matthew 12:46-49; and Matthew 13:55-56; Mark 6:3). Mary was a virgin until Christ was born. There's nothing untoward about su

>>26193
>"But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a Son. And he gave Him the name Jesus."
https://biblehub.com/matthew/1-25.htm

This language makes it quite clear that Joseph did consumate his marriage with his wife Mary. Just not until the baby Jesus was born. I honestly find this 'Eternal Virgin' thing pretty silly, regarding the woman. She certainly is the most blessed of all female homo sapiens sapiens, but she's still after all a woman. In her case she's clearly a believer and so she'll be in Heaven for eternity with God, as will every other Christian. Quite frankly, 'that's' her greatest claim to fame IMO -- that she's a Christian, a part of the body of Christ -- and will serve God forever (same as the rest of us actually-saved Christians).

Is it true that Catholics believe that Mary is without sin? if so why?

>>26236
Those who believe Pius XII was a legit Pope, yes. 
Those who understand that Pius XII was a Rothschild Puppet, and go by the faith of the council of Trent, no. They believe that everyone was born with original sin.

>>26236
>>26250
Martin Luther believed it too.
The reason is that it was an attempt to make ancient roman religion more christian by taking statues of Hera and turning them into Mary. Which was good enough at the time but not when it started to become more about worshipping said statues as if they were on pair with the Trinity.

>>23122
You did lie about me. You answer every argument I made by lying about me. 
You said I had autism. Lie. 
You said I was a professional Troll. LIE
You said I'm looking for ways CAtholism can be debunked. LIE. 
And you made you lies about what I said look like clipped quotes.
And you're lying in this post. 
Why should I answer your questions when you're just going to make MORE personal attacks and lie about what I said? 
There. You've done it. You got my goat by lying about me viciously. You have no spirit of God in you.  You've won.

I have become convinced that in many protestant religions, the sin of false witness is allowed especially against Catholics. 
Done with this. 
Christ isn't in some people, only hate. and they hope to bring you down to their level. Demons are in them. 
I've never had the Bishop's blow. There is no obligation for me to try and save the wicked from their demons.

>>23125
>>23126

Disappointing but not surprising.  As that old saying goes: "When people show you who they really are the first time, believe them."

Time and again you've shown me who you really are; whether you start threads like this under a false pretext, or you engage in slimy and slippery mental gymnastics, twisting of words, arguing in bad faith or projection.  Especially projection.  Everything you said in these two posts describe your tactics to a T, and you project them on to me.

On the bright side, in my discussions with you, by your behavior and tactics, as well as your arguments and espoused beliefs, I have become all the more convicted and convinced that Roman Catholicism is a false and demonic religion of Satan; not merely just misguided brothers and sisters in Christ.  

A religion so infected with doctrines of demons, that adherents like you are literally willing to defend it even as it damns them to Hell by made up sins beyond their control.  Think about it: you're literally willing to go to Hell for a "church" that flagrantly falsely holds you accountable for the sins of your wife and daughter, that you can't even control.  

You're clearly either a professional troll, or someone with severe mental issues, as these are the only two explanations that explain your obsessive, monotonous and infuriating behavior.  The same posts, the same arguments, the same phrases, the same pics, the same twisting and mental gymnastics and lies over and over again.   

Well, I'm done.  I'm tired of beating my heart against some madman's wall. 

>>23131
Prove I have autism. 
prove I am a professional troll. 
Explain how it was not false witness to provide quotes that I did NOT say. 
OR confess you bore false witness and stop pretending to be the victim.

>>23105

>You can, because they're alive. Or do you reject eternal life. 

This is what I'm caught up on.  From my readings it seems like when we die we go into the void until the resurrection at the end of days.

The only thing keeping me from standing on that wholeheartedly is that we see Moses and Elijah meet with Jesus on the mountain.

In revelation we have the saints groaning and wondering when they will be avenged by the Lamb, but they are asleep in some sense.

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9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne. 10They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothersc should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been."

It is very hard to find someone to discuss this with in good faith with diehards trying to browbeat others.

>>22586 (OP) 
CHRIST IS BORN!

Merry Christmas to all of you. May Christ be praised.

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>>26182
MERRY CHRISTMAS, /CHRISTIAN/!
'May God bless you all richly this year.'

Merry Christmas everyone!

I'm totally late, but merry Christmas!

>>26065
You can't really "sell" your soul because our souls belong to God alone. What you can do is place yourself under great demonic influence in order to obtain something. When entering a pact with a demon, the demon is hoping to lead you to self-destruction by disrupting the communion you have with Christ. However, repentance is always possible up until you take your last breath. So remain in a constant state of repentance with a contrite heart and you will not have to worry. If you haven't been baptized yet, please do as that really pisses off the demons!

>I pretended I was in Satan's legal office with the hamburgler acting as a notary he seemed to somehow let onto Grimace walking past us I don't know what he was doing in Hell's legal deparment anyway I gave them my next door neighbor's soul and then I was riding my mobility scooter heading to Walmart when three men dressed as a chicken mcnugget started beating me up they called me a plump pee pee chunkolicious soyboy fatty, I was laying there on the ground crying when I saw there was a McDonalds bag it looked full and it had four hamburgers inside even an extra one from what I'd asked for and I read a note inside it it said; "Courtesy of mayor mccheese". I'm worried I was just a kid I didn't know and then the next day my neighbor died his recto-colonic exam had been wrong I think I'm responsible there was no other way it to happen pls resond

Your soul doesn't belong to you you are a rental unit anon - you've probably just put a few dings in there that'll be paid for from your deposit

>>26078
sounds like the dream i had last night

The only way you can sell your soul is if you succumb to the Devil's wickedness.
You seem to have repented, and I'm not sure how Devil Deal work (nor I want to know) but if there is no sign of paper or handshake or any possession involved then may just be fantasy like ghosts are

>>26062 (OP) 
>Worried I may have accidentally sold my soul to...
Your soul is not your to sell, you belong to God and you have been bought at high price.

Is Hanukkah even a religious holiday amongst the Jews or is it just a cultural celebration? In any case, to the OP's question of how should a Christian celebrate Hanukkah, I think one should take the opportunity to read the books of the Machabees.

>>26121
>Is Hanukkah even a religious holiday amongst the Jews or is it just a cultural celebration?
well...both.
Judaism is both a religion and a culture, Hanukkah for jews is both religious (how God was with them) and culturally (how jews managed to win the war).
Some orthodox christians celebrate Hanukkah as Jesus Christ being the candle that shines brighter than the other candles and so completed the holiday

>>26120
>According to John he went to the city during the day and had no problem about it
>no problems
>31 At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him. 32 But Jesus responded, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?”
Kek. The Jewish leaders were just as spiteful and hateful to Jesus Christ during that time (probably even moreso).  :^)

But fair enough, since the revolt allowed the Temple to be cleansed of the desecration by the Romans, it was clearly preparatory to the appearance of the the Messiah, the entire world's salvation, Jesus of Nazareth the completion of all the Law & the Prophets, the founder of Christianity, and the Glory of God throughout all eternity. Fair enough.

>>26108
That was not a genuine act of anti semetism

>>26135
He had no problem about Hanukkah as an holiday.
Jews had a problem with him.
But Jesus didn't say that Hanukkah was wrong to celebrate as if was man made and without fundements like Pharisees laws were

>>25994
>Brendan Eich
Another reason is that he was explicitly singled-out and targeted for attack, roughly during the 2008 election era IIRC (maybe it was 2012 instead?), by the Leftists and all the usual suspects involved with Marxism in the US. Turns out he made a US$1'000 donation to an organization that was staunchly pro-family (IIRC this was about the time the DOMA was under attack and eventually overturned by the sodomites, et al). Some journalist in the Jewish-controlled media got wind of it, and they proceeded to all dogpile onto Brendan because of his Christian, pro-family stance; beginning with a pro-sodomite dating site that banned Firefox browswers, and made a big show of doing so.

So, after 25+ years as a founder, CEO, and lead programmer, he stepped down from his own organization once several loud-mouthed zealots from within attacked him. These Communists & Jews all cheered about it at the time, but jokes on them.

He quickly began building a quite operation behind the scenes that eventually became the Brave browser & ecosystem for privacy. While everyone else has rushed to grovel at the invasive G*ogle, Brave has slowly built a resistance faction to that police-state-like evil. The Internet has been better because of this outcome ever since, though it clearly cost him at the time.

>tl;dr
'Bre

>>25996
Wow.
I've never heard about this guy but seems like he's quite important. FF went pozzed about right after he left, it seems. I used to be a long-time FF user but nowadays I always use Brave unless I for some reason need a very specific extension. On my tablet and phone, where FF is a nerfed down version anyway, I use Brave 100% of the time.

>>26139
Nice. I actually pay for their (somewhat more expensive) VPN service as well, US$9.99 . I figure it's well worth it to support something that doing real good on the Internet (for the time-being at least), for a service I'd want anyway. They're also far less -likely to be in bed with the 5 Eyes as well. Cheers.

1.) A minute spent on the internet is a minute spent away from God.

2.) Aside from divine grace; read point 1.

I think I've got it down correctly already anon.

The internet is too good at providing nerd media with sex appeal.

>>25715
I've skimmed his work, if he truly was that wound up about it, he could've moved to Greece. But he didn't, he was just the first of  (un?)witting jewish tools used to further split the church. You do know that the Orthodox are the only ones who still don't have women clergy and denounce gays? Since our clergy marry, we also don't have closet homos in our ranks like our Roman brothers have to deal with. 
>What do you mean? Are you saying that people who agree with what Luther wrote are like those guys who said they were "of Paul" instead of Christ?  
Yes, for even St. Paul himself had to tell them to stop it, since He was only in the Service of Christ. Notice that all of the ones you quote are Roman Orders, of whom none but the Jesuits are active, and their fruits are very well known, just as any Roman Catholic what they think of them.
>Point about Pope JPII
So you mean to say that because of rhetoric attributed to him, he acted on that prose? Words without deeds are as faith without works.
>>25721
>>25719
>Brings Up Pious X
>Conflating Orthodoxy with rebellion
>Expecting the Orthodox to care what any Pope

>>25706
It was nice, only was in the area for a little bit and only got to enjoy it a few times, the priest actually retired which is a shame as he was the only priest in the US that had permission to use that liturgy

Orthodox Andrew Wilson made Matt Dillahunty rage quit recently. Afterwards the Q&A turned into Andrew vs the room. Basically, Matt made liberals explode because he said a man is not a woman. 😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8U34ezKvrU

>>25944
>Matt made liberals explode
Crap, I meant to type Andrew

Fellow Orthodox how accurate is this Bing response? I have been playing around more with its AI features and I asked it to create a rebuttal for me. 
The prompt:
>A rebuttal against the claim that Orthodox Christians use the Church canons and Church fathers the same way rabbinic Jews use the Talmud.

The response:
<The claim that Orthodox Christians use the Church canons and Church fathers the same way rabbinic Jews use the Talmud is based on a misunderstanding of both traditions. The Church canons and Church fathers are not sources of authority in themselves, but rather witnesses to the apostolic tradition that is preserved and transmitted by the Holy Spirit in the Church. The Church canons and Church fathers are not binding on every Orthodox Christian in every situation, but rather provide guidance and direction for the faithful in different contexts and circumstances. The Church canons and Church fathers are not meant to be interpreted literally or legalistically, but rather spiritually and pastorally, taking into account the whole of Scripture, Tradition, and Reason. The Church canons and Church fathers are not static or fixed, but rather dynamic and flexible, allowing for development and adaptation in response to new challenges and opportunities.

The Talmud, on the other hand, is a collection of rabbinic interpretations and discussions of the Torah (the first five books of the Hebrew Bible) and other Jew

>>26005 (OP) 
Please don't doxx yourself on this forum, OP. At least find & use a throwaway email address if you honestly intend to communicate away-from-keyboard with ppl here. (Just use the email field in the reply systems.) Please remember, not everyone here may be kindly anons happy to help. Some may be more like Jews, and have nothing but ill-intent towards you. 

Good luck with your search OP. That's some beautiful land there in the Appalachians! Cheers.  :)

>>26006
You really think I would do that, just go on the internet and break opsec? If I get a bite, I will be dropping a public key that that they can encrypt their email with, preserving security. In any case, thanks for the concern, its just that with horror I realize that there really isn't a universal directory for Orthodox parishes.

>>26005 (OP) 
I am Orthodox but not in that neck of the woods. If you will be near the Hermitage of the Holy Cross, I would strongly recommend visiting. The monastery is near the western end of the state. Here is the monastery website:
https://www.holycross.org/

>Are the ROCOR and Antiochians old calendarists or something?
The vast majority of ROCOR parishes are on the Julian calendar unless they are Western Rite is my experience. I am not sure about the Antiochian parishes.

>>26008
I actually am already aware of them and subscribe to their channel on jewtube, but sadly they will be a good almost 2 hours from where I will be staying. Thanks for the information, thoughever!

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>>25906
tell me what a besom is without looking it up

>>25909
>"22For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD. 23I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts."
Isaiah 14:22-23 KJV
From the context of something God is sweeping with, I'd guess "a broom".

Whether my answer is correct or incorrect, it still helps my learning. When I come across a word I don't know, I take it as an opportunity to look it up (which I will do after I click 'reply').

>>25918
Nice

>>25918
Broom of destruction +1

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