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John 3:16 KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


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Ever since shortly after I left the church of Rome I have been drawn to the Reformed tradition as the traditional and scholarly wing of the fundamentalist movement. Calvinist theologians have been at the forefront of defining (such as in The Fundamentals or the Chicago Statement on Inerrancy) and giving the reasons (presuppositional apologetics, Reformed epistemology) for our faith in an age of "reason". I was blessed especially by the ministry of Dr. James White, especially in his book the Potter's Freedom (which I highly recommend) in showing me the doctrines of grace, though the Reformed tradition is much more than the 5 points of Calvinism. To give a short answer, the reason why I'm Reformed is because I believe everything the bible says. I would think it would be simple to just believe everything God said, but apparently the vast majority of people (even Christians today) find it very difficult. 

The TULIP acrostic is much younger than the doctrines it represents, and even those 5 points were first formally stated as such in the 17th century at the Synod of Dort. But while they can cause confusion (especially the L) the doctrines have been taught since the beginning of the Reformation, and much earlier than that. Since by far the most popular argument against the doctrines of grace is the strawman fallacy, I want to explain each point to you and help you see that you may just believe them already. 

>Total Depravity
This does NOT mean that men are as bad as they possibly could be. In fact, unbelievers are sometimes so showered in common grace that we perceive them as being "better" than many Christians. What this doctrine does mean is that there is no kernel of good hidden deep within man that enables him to cooperate with the grace of God, but that he is according to nature so far gone that he would never, under any circumstances, under his own volition reconcile with his creator and submit to the rule of God, so that when he does so it is a true divine miracle changing the direction of his heart with as much force as would change the trajectory of the earth. For "there is none who does good, no one who seeks after God, no not even one". 

>Unconditional Election
This doctrine is very literally named, as it means that those blessed few among the great crowd of evil whom God shall save have not been chosen (or "elected") because they rose above and satisfied some condition of being so (such as accruing merit and avoiding mortal sin, or choosing to embrace the gospel message) but only because of the good pleasure of God, who has mercy on whom He will have mercy according to His plans to the praise of His glorious grace. It does not mean His selection is arbitrary, but the reasons for His determination are never that the elect merited salvation more than the reprobate. Often this doctrine is criticized as embodying pride, or as giving the Calvinist sinful pride. Nothing could be more scandalous or further from the truth. For I know that I am absolutely no better than the reprobate, and there was nothing about me which made me more desirable than the reprobate, but I can look at every single one of them as they march happily into the maw of hell screeching their hatred of God and say "there go I but for the grace of God". 

>Limited Atonement
This is perhaps the least well understood doctrine, regrettably in large part due to its unfortunate naming to create the TULIP acrostic. The limitation which is referenced is not one of efficiency but of scope, that is, Christ's death was certainly sufficient to save all men who will ever exist, but it was not His intention do so. But this doctrine is much more about what Christ has accomplished than what He has not. To deny this doctrine is to deny that Christ saved those for whom He died, and to assert that His sacrifice merely enabled them to be saved by some other convoluted means, which seems a much more pernicious limitation. For what this doctrine really means is that Christ accomplished the salvation of the elect upon the cross, so that every one of them can say "I have been crucified with Christ. It is now not I who lives, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me". Can the reprobate say this? Can he climb up on the parapets of hell, scream out his hatred of God, and say "I have been crucified with Christ"? Was it for a nameless, faceless mass of humanity that Christ died, to enable them to save themselves if they so desired, or did the Son of God love me and give Himself for me?

>Irresistible Grace
This doctrine is also named literally, as it means that the grace of God cannot be resisted by the elect, that is, they do not have the power to reject His powerful resurrecting grace, but the Spirit changes their hearts to make of them sons of God. They are a new creation, not the same wicked creature which once despised his maker, but they are freed from slavery to sin, so that they may flee with tears to the mercy of Christ, and kneel without hesitation to His Lordship. This is what the Lord meant when He said, "you must be born again".
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>you purposely conflate rabbinic Judaism with Christianity
Were you looking in a mirror while writing this post? 
>understand the difference between Israelite religion, Christianity, and rabbinic Judaism
Difference between Jewish religion and the other Jewish religion (rabbinic Judaism): none
Difference between Christianity and either: infinity.

See, this is a problem. Not listening to the good man Marcion ended up with the Church being forced into a schizophrenic position where you have to truly believe that at some point in (mythic) history, Jews were good and Godly people, whereas evidence of your eyes and ears, as well as testimony of the ancient peoples who were contemporary of those mythical "Good Jews", point towards the fact they had always been a tribe of desert marauders following Hottentot morality and possessing proclivity for thieving only matched by Gypsies.
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>>26696

>APOSTOLIC AND ROMAN CATHOLIC
>Jewish Pope Francis

Who's gonna tell Anon that this isn't how it works lmao
>>26919
Meds
>>26861
>I get what you are attempting to say
But then you say 
>However, to suggest that Baptists and Presbyterian churches were present at the time of the Apostles is misguided at best and intellectually dishonest at worst.
So what you meant to say is "I don't have a clue what your point is", or "I'm maliciously ignoring your point".
>>26859
I'll reserve my judgements until I finish the Bible, but I will also say I believe it's important to remember all men, no matter how faithful, can be lead astray. Aaron, God's own elected minister, was the one who crafted the molten calf, after all.

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lately i’ve been feeling really unsettled about where things are going in america. after the shooting of charlie kirk it hit me harder than i expected. it’s not just politics anymore, it feels like the country itself is sick and maybe God is telling some of us to step away for a time.

i keep wondering if moving overseas, even temporarily, is something i should actually consider. not out of fear, but because i don’t want to ignore what might be the Spirit’s nudging. it feels like there are signs everywhere, and i’m restless in a way i can’t just chalk up to the news cycle.

are any of you getting the same feeling? like maybe God is calling us out, at least for a season, to preserve our faith and families while everything here keeps boiling over? or am i just overreacting?

prayers and thoughts welcome.
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>>27752 (OP) 
Don't misread your own feelings for the spirit's urgings. Read 1 John 4 instead of looking for guidance from imageboards. This place is for discussion not some tarot reading.
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thank you brother for your response, on one hand, yes, i was wondering if i was being misled and there is a risk of that, but on the other hand, i wanted to get a temperature check from an online christian community, i guess at the end of the day i need to fast and pray over this, but the recent event has still left me shaken and i have a deep unease over the course of this nation (and for the world for that matter), God bless and be good

>Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. (1 John 4:1-3, ESV)

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I'm new to christianity and new to reading the New Testament. I have a question regarding helping the poor and how should we do it. It seems the Bible asumes the poor and those in need to be always in the right and seems like helping them is the best one can do to enter the Kingdom of God. But sometimes the poor can also show greed and injustice, as I have seen how a friend of mine was giving money to a homeless guy and he was harassing her to give him even more money. Even as a kid, being schooled in a catholic school, I was forced to give money to charity and then I found out no one of those we supposedly helped improved in any way, and thus we threw our money right into the trash. I understand one should partake in charity and helping those in need but at what extent? Is every homeless person, every poor, every misserable, good in nature? Or is our aid what matters regardless of who recives the aid and what they do with it? As for example, giving money to a homeless guy and then the homeless buys alcohol instead of food. Our action was good but his use of our money isn't. I want to help the poor and those in need but I'm afraid it will be futile, as people won't improve regardless of my efforts.
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>>25385
The idea is to make the non-Christians into Christians as you give food and water.
>>25386
those without sin deceive themselves.
>>25353
You just have to let God lead you.  It's not always clear cut whether or not you should give to a particular homeless person.  If you think about what it takes to get out of their situation and their state of mind, it's not about whether we will see something productive out of our alms, it's a simple act of mercy.

It's not financially feasible to give to every person we see on the street, so it comes down to trusting Him for who and who not to give to.
>>25346 (OP) 
This is called being a fool for Christ. Absolutely, it is the act of giving to the poor which is good, and not the consequences of it. Christian ethics are not utilitarian. If the bum takes your money and uses it to sin, it is only his sin, your Father in heaven in pleased with your merciful action.
>>25346 (OP) 
I think the Bible is pretty clear cut on this, but I would also say it's a matter of the heart as well and requires wisdom and spiritual discernment. Jesus said that we will always have the poor with us, so I wouldn't feel overburdened all the time but at the same time we should serve just as He served and showed us the way. What your role is to help the poor can take many different forms.

I personally would look into a structured way of helping and serving like >>25347 mentioned instead of trying to go at it solo.

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ITT: post resources and advice for refuting the Jewish religion and demonstrating that the Christian religion is the religion of the Tanakh. 

Real Messiah youtube channel (Rev. Dr. Michael Brown answers Jewish objections to Jesus): https://youtube.com/c/RealMessiah/videos

Particularly good vid from the above, "Psalm 22 does not speak of death by crucifixion" https://youtu.be/5QdbLUKhVcE

One For Israel youtube channel (Israeli Christians make arguments and counter-arguments against Judaism, also many testimonies from Jewish converts to Christianity) https://youtube.com/c/ONEFORISRAEL


Some personal tips for evangelizing Jews from my own experience: firstly recognize that the Jews come in a few categories. Jewish atheists are not relevant to this thread, they should be dealt with as any other atheist. Some Jews will view Jesus as a wise rabbi, most who oppose you will view Him as a sorcerer (this should not surprise you as we see much the same division between the unbelieving Jews in the gospels). Some Jews will be more or less informed about their religion and ours, but the ones to watch out for are those (typically orthodox but probably at least conse
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>>26568
>reposting from /sp/ of all places the proper meaning of judeo-christian
Source thread?
Should Christians Support Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDi9YO9WkgM

Judaism is not what you think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3AaXw09WQA
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>>26568
Early Christology and Second Temple Judaism w/ Luis Dizon from Reason & Theology.
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I have had acid reflux, chronic kidney disease, lymphoma, shingles, and probably a circadian rhythm disorder and probably IBS, and all of my male paternal ancestors including my father and grandfather have died of heart attacks. What's more, the treatments for these conditions themselves have come with severe complications, including agonizing pain and frequent infections, and even neurological complications culminating in a vegetative state for a few days. And all of this by the age of 25. And I call all of it a blessing, for the foolish godlessness of this generation is caused in part because men have forgotten death, and grown complacent, and supposed that the arrows of God's wrath no longer find their targets, but the shadow of death has hanged over my head since I was a young child which, I think, has enabled me to think more about eternity than others my age. But I do not suppose my life is wasted or worse than theirs, because my only comfort in life and in death is that I am not my own, but belong, body and soul, in life and in death to my faithful Savior, Jesus Christ.
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Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.
Romans 5:3-5
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I feel for you, Anon.
Seven years ago I was harmed by a doctor and never fully healed. My cognition has suffered immensely, all the minor vanities I used to take comfort in are slipping away. Each passing day feels like a noose tightening ever-so-slightly round my neck. I don't reject Providence or hope, but I feel that while I may have some years left, it's simply in store for a life that is simply not worth living. 
I can't even begin to imagine what you go through. I don't know who you are, but I find your temerity and surety in the Resurrection to be inspiring. 
>But I do not suppose my life is wasted or worse than theirs, because my only comfort in life and in death is that I am not my own, but belong, body and soul, in life and in death to my faithful Savior, Jesus Christ.
Thank you for articulating what I could not.
God bless you.
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Amen.

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I will keep this short and to the point: I will be resigning my position as board owner (hopefully) by the end of next week.

There are many reasons for this, but rather than go into excessive detail they essentially come down to:
>Too many other things going on in my life to be a responsible owner
>Personal failures of mine that leave me unfit to be owner
I will not elaborate further on the latter.

In the 2+ years I have had this position, we've been through a lot, the most important being the migration from anon.cafe to zzzchan (again, thank you Sturgeon for your patience and assistance in getting us here). However, I have not done my due dilligence in maintaining an active board. There have been more than a few anons making good threads/posts and I am very grateful for their help in keeping the board active. But most importantly, it is my own personal shortcomings that ultimately led to this decision. I have not been the ideal owner that I should be.

With all that being said, I seek to handover the board to someone else by the end of next week. If you are interested in the position, you may send an email to [email protected] and I will evaluate you based on your past post history.

Thank you, and God bless you all.
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>it's been over a week
So... do we have a new BO?
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>>27672
Congratulations, it's you!
>>27659 (OP) 
Are you still around, or did you finally hand the keys over to someone else? The suspense has led to some sleepless nights.
New board owner report in plz.
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>>27715
I guess this is like our time of the Judges.

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Glory to God in the highest heavens,
My Lord, my Saviour, my Redeemer,
Manifest Your mercy upon me,
Show me Your joyful pathways,
Lead me according to the pleasure of Your Spirit,
Purify my soul, clarify my intentions,
Shelter me with respite from anxieties,
Lord Christ, Almighty King,
I am not worthy of Your consideration,
Yet You heed me, and abide by me,
What am I to You, miserable in my offenses,
What do you see in me that was worth dying for?
You are wonderful and perfect, I terrible and misshapen,
Yet You opted to impute the glory of Your salvation upon me,
A superluminous light in a devouring darkness,
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GLORY TO JESUS CHRIST

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Brothers and sisters, rough night. Ended up stumbling into sin — gave into an old habit — and the guilt is heavy. Honestly, looking back, I was running on absolute fumes... physically and mentally drained.

As I was wrestling with the guilt tonight, the story of Jesus in the wilderness (Matthew 4) hit me differently. Think about it: 40 days fasting. He was literally in the most physically weakened state imaginable, utterly vulnerable. That's when Satan showed up with the big guns. And yet... He stood firm. Scripture was His strength, His anchor.

It hit me like a ton of bricks: My own exhaustion wasn't just an excuse, it was an open door. I wasn't tending to the "temple" (this body/mind God gave me), and it made me a sitting duck spiritually. Jesus showed it's possible to overcome even in extreme weakness, but His example also screams that our physical and mental state matters in this battle. We're not disembodied spirits fighting sin; fatigue, hunger, stress – they're real factors Satan exploits.

Feeling convicted but also... weirdly encouraged? Like I need to be way more mindful of not just praying and reading, but also resting, fueling this body right, and recognizing when I'm in a weakened "wilderness" state. It’s not just about willpower in the moment; it's about stewardship beforehand.

>"For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet witho
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>>27647 (OP) 
Yes my willpower is decrease when I'm tired

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Runes found in Canadian wilderness baffle archaeologists
https://www.popsci.com/science/runes-canada-stone/

Christian Vikings is my guess.
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>>27532 (OP) 
Reminds me of this.

>Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” (Matthew 28:18-20, ESV)

And yet, we live in a world that repeatedly denies the power of Christ and His Word. There have been reports that even the most remotest tribes in the Amazons have been reached but anthropologists refused to acknowledge the works of brave missionaries.
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>>27641
Indeed. Man shouts his disbelief into the heavens not because he does not see God, but because he fears that He sees him. The proud scholar wanders the jungle, measuring bones and language, while the silent martyr bleeds in the underbrush bringing the light of Christ. And still the world honors the skeptic, not the saint. Is this not the old story repeated? Pilate asks what is truth, and crucifies it before receiving the answer.

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>John MacArthur, the California-based Bible teacher, pastor and author known for his polarizing theological stances and defiance of ongoing COVID-19 lockdowns, has died at 86. 

>Grace to You, the teaching ministry of MacArthur, confirmed in an X post on Monday evening that MacArthur had passed away not long after being hospitalized with pneumonia. 

>"Our hearts are heavy, yet rejoicing, as we share the news that our beloved pastor and teacher John MacArthur has entered into the presence of the Savior. This evening, his faith became sight," the ministry shared on its social media platforms. 

>MacArthur is survived by Patricia, his wife of more than 60 years, as well as four children, 15 grandchildren, and nine great-grandchildren.  

>"Rest in peace, lion of faith," tweeted theologian and author Owen Strachan in response to the news. "It is already strange to live in a world without MacArthur's steady convictional presence. Pray for his family, his church, and the many who mourn him."
>>27643 (OP) 
I never listened to him a whole lot. He did however gain a lot of respect from me when he stood up to State of California during the COVID fiasco and kept his church open when so many other churches bent the knee to the local authorities.
>>27643 (OP) 
Farewell, Friend. You are in the arms of the Lord now.
>>27643 (OP) 
MacArthur's sermons made me question my salvation. When I sinned, that was evidence that I haven't fully submitted to Christ (for how could one sin if he was fully submitted?). Consequently, if I hadn't fully submitted to Christ, I must not be saved. Naturally, my attention was then shifted towards my works: I must completely repent of sin in order to be saved. I was struggling to find any "good news" in this. Ironic that his ministry is called "Grace to You".

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