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Are you still going to church, /christian/?

>>27916
I like going to Mass during the week, it's quieter than on Sundays.

Bethel Redding is live currently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4yawoEd4gA

Happy Easter

>>28092
happy easter anon

>>23737
Why is it called a Pentateuch if it's a complete Old Testament?

>>23737
finna whip this bad boy out and start quoting from it any time i get in an argument about religion.

>>23738
The original article I found about it seemed to be confused between two manuscripts, Sassoon 507 is the Damascus Pentateuch but the one being auctioned is actually Sassoon 1053. It also seems that someone took photos of it before it was privately bought:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tanakh-MS-Sassoon-1053
https://archive.org/details/Sassoon_1053_Tanakh

Wasn't sure where to post this. This is a 6-hour Greek Bible study but actually covers a lot of deep material. It has an interdenominational group, with a Jewish guy, a Catholic priest, an Orthodox priest (Fr. Stephen De Young), a Calvinist, a Coptic Christian, and a few other Orthodox Christians. This 6-hour video is just the first meeting, and I am only 4 hours in, but I think it will address for sure some of the questions that OP asks as well bringing to light many questions during the 2nd Temple and elsewhere. It was from this video that I learned about Islamic mythicism and that Islam may really just be a heretical Christian with Muhammed being just a made-up character. They have continued on with a few more meetings. Not sure if they are completely done. But this is really good stuff. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSjatPfFKlI

Are any of you familiar with the translation work of Mauro Biglino?
He's an advocate of translating what can be translated and leaving what can't be translated as it is but with annotations.

One example of things he takes issue with is the translation of words such as elohim, el, elyon as simply god.
This perspective paints a very different picture to what I originally believed of the bible, it provokes serious questions and curiously brings it into closer alignment to depictions of similar beings by other ancient theologies such as the greeks or nords.

>>28081 (OP) 
>sometimes think in if im really saved as i still under my bad habits
Take heart. Cleaning up your life does not save you. You are saved by what Jesus has done for you. That is why the gospel is such good news. God has done for us what we could not do ourselves.

In Romans, the Apostle Paul writes that he felt the same way you do:
"We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to 

>>28083
Thx for the advice and admittedly most of em was a bad attempt to edge and stopping too soon up too and fully ejactualte not helped as even as i try to avoid stuff that'll have me relapse i end upjust looking at it either nudes,lewd rp's and such ending up in falling back ingo my sin.
which I'd be disappointed/mad at myself for said relapses and by guilt admit to God in what in my relapses still feels good/looks hot hence why I think im not s/a fraud follower

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The whole radiation emission theory for the shroud might actually be even more credible now. Not saying this study is directly related, but light emission from the body forms the foundation of the theory.
https://www.sciencealert.com/we-emit-a-visible-light-that-vanishes-when-we-die-says-surprising-new-study

What do you say to people who say that Christ’s body was wrapped in multiple linen strips and therefore the shroud is not legit?

Were there multiple strips around this main one?

Assuming that you're actually talking about "Christian pictures" and you're not looking for help hiding another sort of picture with the same abbreviation that will land you in jail, just use Veracrypt.

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>>27987
>We don't need more useless voices drowning out the truth of Christ

Following the 1:9:90 principle, advertising would lead to significantly more viewers than users, and board culture could still be used to gatekeep idiots who want to be in the 1:9 crew that have stupid things to say. 

>Through reading our works, rhetorical and actual, and the intense debate that can only come from minds focused on Christ, that is the only way to reinvigorate this modern generation of gelded, feminized losers being lost to the lies of their time. 

My point is who's reading you? Old 8chan was a top 5000 ranked site. zzz, great as it may be, is rather in the top 300k in the US, and in the top 800k worldwide. 

You're not exposing people to the theology that you're discussing. 

 
>What's the difference between your propositions and just resigning oneself to plebbit/r/christianity with all the other losers?

plebbit uses vote based algorithms to drive content to the top that appeals to the masses (the "90" from above), rather than bump-order based sortition that lets the most discussed (rather than mass-appealing) topics rise. Because of this, plebbit intrinsically appeals to idiots, because it gives a low effort voice (voting) to the masses. 

>>27988
I'll bite

>Following the 1:9:90 principle...
>My point is who's reading you?...
The growth will come with time. ZZZ, as small as it is, currently is the most widely used altchan on the webring, and I think its second only to the sharty in terms of all altchans. Just like with the plebbit/cuckchan migration to 8chan, it will happen in waves, but the main draw was good moderation and insightful, honest discussion as to the zeitgeist they allowed. Cuckchan caught on to how gay their were being with the 15 minute post cooldowns, but between the 2 minute cooldowns and increasingly homosexual moderation, it's a matter of time before we see regular triple and quad digit uids here.

>You're not exposing people to the theology that you're discussing. 
You're grasping at straws, I regularly post on topics that catch my interest. What probably happened, is that the more lukewarm /christian/ posters from 8chan got cold feet and returned to normie tier denomination echo chambers via message boards and plebbit. We are obviously closer to zealots than you even want to admit.

>plebbit uses...
You naivete shows. Plebbit, like most of clearnet, is a perpetual jewish consensus cracking/manufactured consent psyop where ideas they don't like are suppressed and astro-turfed ideas are pushed forward to prevent resistance to their goals. Its why one can find hardcore porn there, but guns and national socialism are "le bad."

>What drew people to the old site was the gg related exodus...
Yes, to a point. One of the largest migrations was due to gg, but prior to gg, cuckchan and plebbit were already experiencing a wave of censorship surrounding "punching down" comedy, guns, "political incorrectness" and extreme dissatisfaction with democratic systems of the west. This was leading to a resurgence of Monarchism and national socialism as diametric to current social ills. Think about how many memes one saw of "medieval serfs lived better lives that you do" and quotes of past European regents and saints explain how they dealt with the problems of their day. 

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>>27989
>but prior to gg, cuckchan and plebbit were already experiencing a wave of censorship surrounding "punching down" comedy, guns, "political incorrectness" and extreme dissatisfaction with democratic systems of the west. 

It doesn't matter what social movements they were experiencing, old 8ch got new members because shilling on 4ch during that time period lead people to it. 

The site was exposed to a high CPM environment and gained membership by spam-advertisement. The social dynamics on the site accelerated this, but 8ch was still pissing spam into a high CPM site and leeching members basically the same way other sites currently do so through leigitmate advertising. 

>You naivete shows. 

You didn't really give a technical response to what I said and just basically said "it's all a jewish psyop". You don't demonstrate how, though, so I don't really follow. Yes, those places are trash and psyops, but I think there's solutions to that. Plebbit is engineered to be a psyop. But imageboards as a systematic framework do not have this same engineering in place. 

And besides, if your board culture and moderation are not designed to be psyops, then it shouldn't matter if you gain new members. The levers of power would still be held by people who aren't engaged in the psyop. 

>This was leading to a resurgence of Monarchism and national socialism as diametric to current social ills.

>>27990
>You didn't really give a technical response...
Buddy, again, how are you here if you don't understand the times we're in? Have you really not heard of the jidf, hasbara, pravda, zersetzung, their strangehold on mass media and entertainment? How they killed Christ and not only boasted, but asked to be cursed to all future generations? The only solution to the psyop is to opt out, that's why you're here! 
>Your board culture...
There it is, you aren't one of us. We don't need a psyop as again, proclaiming the truth in Christ doesn't require subversion or trickery. The truth has set us free, and we will free those to make the same pattern of choices that lead them among us. 
>Old 8chan's core users were tamping down on national socialism...
Further proof that you aren't as well versed in recent history as you think you are. Why do you think that zzzchan doesn't even bother with a /pol/ but goes straight to the fasces?
>That's the plan. Really just kinda thinking...
>I'm not talking about this board, but about other potential projects.
You're doomed to failure if you lack the necessary rigor to give any action meaning. All that's seen from you is pitiful rhetoric. Don't "kind of" think and sit down for a while and think about w

>>27991
Edify us then. What are the hasbara, the pravda, and the zersetzung and what does that have to do with discussing the principles of the doctrine of Christ?
>How they killed Christ
You see you already have been completely and utterly subverted and are apostate. The JIDF for example are not the descendents of the jews who killed Christ, for they are not jews in the first place.

>>28019
>zero hesitation to bear false witness

>>28020
Only a few things get you autobanned on /christian/, and the accusation wasn't refutted. But whatever makes you feel better.

>>28021
>the accusation wasn't refutted
That's not how it works, you aren't justified in throwing out baseless accusations because you weren't refuted. Your throat is an open grave, the poison of asps is under your lips, there is no fear of God before your eyes.

>>28022
Nice try. Then how's this: How does one get auto-banned on /christian/? What does the word "probably" mean? What can be said about a person who can't communicate without breaking those rules? And please, just answer the questions. Hold the goalpost moving and mirroring if you want a response. You zoomers really are an emotional bunch, never to grow if the mommy and daddy issues aren't overcome.

>>28023
>What does the word "probably" mean?
Oh that's the magic one that makes it morally permissible to bear false witness when you say it.
>And please, just answer the questions. Hold the goalpost moving and mirroring if you want a response. You zoomers really are an emotional bunch, never to grow if the mommy and daddy issues aren't overcome.
There you go again. You are incapable of treating your fellow man with respect, you have no hesitation to bear false witness against your neighbor, you have no shame when your sin is called out, you betray your pride and contempt constantly. Is there any wonder why you are enthralled with a false religious system? It is because you are unregenerate, you have not been born again, you are still in the flesh, you are still in your sins. You are on the road to hearing the words "I never knew you". My friend, when you die you will go to hell, where your pseudo-religiosity and pride will avail you nothing, you will drink the whole cup of God's wrath, and you will not be released until you pay the last penny. But the Lord provided a way out for all who believe, I tell you that if you repent of your sins and throw yourself on the mercy of God in Christ you will certainly be forgiven and saved because Jesus paid the price for all of His people, He took the curse of the law in their place, so that by His 

>>27960
Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses I've spoken with were quick to dismiss "modern translations" which these particular Witnesses said were "not true translations". One scowled when I mentioned the NIV. While I don't have a complete list of which translations they like or dislike, when I asked them what they thought of the KJV, they told me that it's a good translation but their organization produced the NWT because the KJV was too archaic for modern English readers. I know this is anecdotal, but 5+ JWs I've spoken with have all had a similar take. I mostly relied on their NWT while speaking with them, as they accept that it's perfect. It just has removed every Trinitarian thing they could find (they still couldn't remove it all, though).

I'll admit, sometimes I can sense the terms and phrasing are not landing with new believers, so I'm paraphrasing for them immediately after reciting the text. So, use what you think is correct.

>>27955
It really is the best Catholic study Bible. And the digital version costing $3 while the physical volumes cost hundreds (there's 17 of them) makes it a steal.

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>>27950 (OP) 
The King James Version.

>>27950 (OP) 
Either Douay or Knox. Unfortunately, neither of them managed to achieve the role of being of being a common scriptural language recognized by all English-speaking Catholics—though the former probably comes closer amongst so-called "Traditionalist" Catholics.

Whichever ones produce the fruits of hearing all of the word, and of doing the word, and of Godly charity.

>>27943 (OP) 
These tires of scenarios are where being able to do a Zoom back-up service would come in handy.

>>27966
>What does it mean to protest?
The term Protestant refers to a formally dissenting party of princes within the imperial diet of the Holy Roman Reich of the German Nation.
>What are they protesting?
The Edict of Worms, but if you want to turn it into something theological it would be the traditions of Rome, which you also reject, so I don't understand your seething.

>>27972
That's not church. If you're not gathered together in the flesh with the people of God, it's not church.

>>27994
I agree, but if they're going to cancel service it would be nice to hear a homily.

>>27992
Honestly he's probably an overzealous fresh convert, if I had to guess from a Pentecostal denomination, and now that he feels he's landed in the true religion the leavening of the Phariaees has taken hold and feels compelled to declare everyone else a heretic.

>>27708
Christianity is the religion of the White European True Israelite, no mutts allowed, all others need to stick to their pagan and keep their heads down if they don't want them sliced off. The lesser races will lay down their weapons and bow to the White Man's will. Those who do not yield will be exterminated.

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Illustration from the notes in the Kitaji Bible

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>>27876
Christianity was accepted in Asia and Africa before Europe.
Anyway here's some art from the Ethiopian Orthodox.

>>27876
That's not how it works. In Galatians Paul says there are no Jews or Gentiles. We are all one in Christ. Anyone who accepts him is saved.