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John 3:16 KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


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Please don't let this one die.
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>>27020
Meant that for >>27018.
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Classic!
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I was looking for a charity that helps the poor yet doesn't support abortion. It seems the three "Catholic" charities; Catholic Charities USA, the Society of St. Vincent de Paul and the Catholic Health Association supported legislation back in 2009 that would fund abortion. This is against the Catholic faith on two levels: #1 abortion, #2 socialism.  

And Peter's Pense - I'm still disappointed yet not at all surprised that Bergoglio (Who some believe to be the current Pope Francis) gave Peter's Pence to homosexual/transsexual prostitutes who were lacking in income because of the Covid shutdowns.  

While searching non-Catholic religious charities that are more Catholic than Pope Frank, I ran across this story 

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claimed this week that her “Jewish brothers and sisters” believe killing unborn babies in abortions is a religious sacrament “according to their faith.” 
Incredible! She talking about sacrificing babies to Moloch. 

Is it really part of the Jewish religion, or is she lacking in understanding in a major way?

*https://www.lifenews.com/2022/12/22/aoc-claims-abortion-is-a-religious-sacrament/
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>>22521 (OP) 
>I was looking for a charity
Anony, this is your first mistake. If you want to help someone, do it directly. You should not trust shady third parties to do it for you.
>>22526
If they don't seem dangerous you can give them some food, bottles of water, blankets, warm clothing, or gift cards for businesses that don't sell alcohol/tobacco. Or leave it at their spot when they aren't there.
If you donate to charities like can drives, clothing drives, or food banks it's also less likely that they'll misuse your donation on something bad since you're directly giving goods and not money.
Firearms Policy Coalition? They openly and repeatedly call out how gun grabs disproportionately harm the poor.
Try outreach programs that have an Amazon Wishlist for donating goods, and not money, to them? It's what I do. Call me crazy, but I suppose it is hard for most Communist agitators to covet non-premium branded socks, underwear, blankets, toiletry kits, snacks, and other essential items for the homeless. Neither can I imagine most homeless wanting a sermon from the Church of Science about how their homelessness is because of the evil white man.

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What is your favourite verse or part of the Old Testament?
I like the history of Moses.
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>>25628
>For some reason it always reminds me of a Mad Max setting.
Yeah, that's a pretty cool way of looking at things Anon. I think the Christian church has been pansified (largely due to unrestrained behavior of women) to the point where they seem somehow to forget it is an awesome and mighty God with Whom we all have to do. His holiness will brook no rivals.
I think most people agree that Exodus is the best part of first testament
>>20903
>The sacrifice of Isaac
ditto
>>17420 (OP) 
Genesis 6
>>17420 (OP) 
The story between Judges 17 and 21.
>In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
>every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
Because the USA prides itself on being the first free nation in all of history. And moral relativism prides itself on being a new way of thinking never before seen in all of history. But free nations and relativism are as old as the Old Testament. And both were as full of lies, greed, fornication, and murder back then as they are today. Knowing that there is nothing new under the sun brings a mocking smirk against secularism to my face.

Also Job, after finally figuring out the theme of the book. It's an instruction on the nature of God, upon the setup of man's futility in using his own wisdom to justify himself (which is what Job does,) and man's futility in using his own wisdom to condemn that which God shall not forever cast off (which is what Job's friends do.)

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What are Your Guys on the Eastern Orthodox Church are in of you part of it do you think its the true church what do you disagree with and or agree with?
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LUKE SMITH INTERVIEW JUST DROPPED!!!
https://youtu.be/BdXRI-5BxMw?si=NFyH-jLjY0kyhZsr
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>>27009
I fucking hate this board.
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>>27010
>Orthodox content posted in Orthodox thread
<Boo hoo I hate this board 
Post in another thread if you have something to discuss, or else fuck off to another board. Better yet another site.
>>27010
t. city-dwelling proprietary software user
>>27009
Not Eastern Orthodox, but I'm happy to see that Luke is still alive after announcing that he's travelling to Eastern Europe and never posting to YouTube again.

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Didn't see one active, so I decided to make one. Reply with your prayer requests and I will include them in my daily prayers and when I go to Mass. Other anons are encouraged to do the same.
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I am praying for the sudden generosity and flattery today by some rando truck driver toward a married female coworker is not some subtle attempt at adultery. And if it is, then I pray for God to rebuke it. And if God shall not rebuke it, then I pray for the Lord to at least place a stumbling block before the truck driver so that he rebukes himself.
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>>26946
The charity turned out to be genuine, thank God. My suspicions are humbled. Now I think to repay the generosity with my own generosity somewhere else.
Ran into some foolish companies trailer with my car that they parked in my driveway in the middle of the night. I didn't damage the trailer whatsoever but the owners are lawyers and have a camera on it so they might go after me anyways. It was the metal hitch of the trailer that ended up barely scratching my own car's plastic parts, their hitch is undamaged. Pray for the will of God to be done.
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>>26984
Prayers enroute, Anon! :^)
With the recent happenings in Syria, spare a prayer for the Christian communities in that country.

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30+ Bite Sized videos on the Shroud
https://www.youtube.com/@ShrewdManagerChristianity/videos

Silent Witness 1978 Documentary
https://rumble.com/v115zu2-the-silent-witness-a-documentary-on-the-shroud-of-turin.html

Ratio Christi presentation
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjMeEwWrAGM (Part 2)

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>>26567
>Hatred of men
But most non-Whites barely qualify as human. Is there any passage in the Bible that defines (hu)man as the modern mainstream definition?
>I briefly reviewed the website
Did you miss the fact that it is a barely concealed ploy by a gang of adult homosexuals to recruit teenage boys by demonstrating symbols that teenage boys usually like - Rebellion and Heavy Metal?

"Joy of Satan" is a gay recruitment program, and that should be immediately pointed out. In today's world, where Satanism and Homosexuality are both mainstream, acceptable and celebrated, it is frankly speaking obsolete.
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>>26914
>Did you miss the fact
Yes, since I am not familiar with homosexuality.
>these people say your Christ was a myth 
They are technically correct, the best kind of correct, but unfortunately, they do not understand that 'myth' doesn't mean 'outraged, bold-faced lie not unlike ones that Jews use', but rather something which has layered meanings - literal, moral, and metaphysical.
What makes the Bible different from pagan texts?
https://www.youtube.com/live/DaNkXn6Hf1Y?si=AMBmHawDBFMFOiUb

I am currently listening to this, but I wanted to share it because it is very insightful. Jeem always makes good vids.

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Due to several threads being dragged wildly off-topic by some anons' inability to hold themselves back whenever someone says the Pope is the antichrist or that Martin Luther destroyed Christianity, this thread will serve as a pseudo-containment thread for dialogue between Catholics and Protestants. Rules still apply in here, keep the thread on topic, do not make one-liner insults or ad hominems, keep it civil and respectful. Posts that try to start fights between Churches and drag the OP off-topic in other threads will be deleted, no matter how many there are.
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What the Protestant heretics do not accept is that the Bible as a set of inspired books comes from the Church and not the other way around, as they interpret it, that the Church derives from the interpretation of the Bible, which in their case degenerates into a myriad of sects since each one corresponds to a private interpretation of the Scriptures which in turn are translated at will to justify the chosen interpretation.
The Church is the sole depository, custodian and interpreter of the Bible. It is Sacred Tradition that gives authority to the Church and not the alleged arbitrary interpretation of certain passages.
Among many other heresies, Protestantism is impregnated with pseudo-scientific gnosticism since each sect believes to find a truth in the Bible that for those who do not accept it is hidden because they do not know how to read and interpret. All the biblical studies of these heretics ooze rationalistic exegetical presumption, but reason emancipated from the authority of the Church is of no use to them. It is satanic liberalism that is behind all this arrogance of claiming to know without submitting to any authority or Tradition.
To interpret the Bible without submission to the Magisterium is like pretending to sing a song having only the lyrics and inventing the music, supposing that they even possessed the lyrics, read translation, authorized.How many evils would have been spared to humanity and to the Faith if that cursed monk called Luther and his followers had not unleashed the liberal, Judaizing, immanentist, nominalist and relativist beast! By far the principle of "Sola Scriptura" is the most dissolving and demolishing for Christianity.
On the other hand, this rationalism of scrutinizing the Scriptures and extracting everything from them is simple emulation of Judaism, and therefore Judaization, since in reality Protestantism finds its archetype in the rabbi and in the synagogue consecrated to ruminate the Torah and the Talmud until learning them by heart. The Protestant does not feel secure in Tradition and needs to rationalize his faith and therefore imitates the Jews. In fact, Protestants have assumed as canonical the same books that the Jews include in their Tanach.
Protestantism as a whole is the great Jewish subversion within Christianity, it is known that the Reformers consulted the rabbis about the bible and its interpretation and that many humanists and translators of the first bibles were marranos (jews that said they were christians to avoid persecution).

- Hypermonotheism. Relative in the case of the Protestants who of course are Trinitarians, but have eliminated the cult of the saints and the Virgin.
- Veneration of "the sacred book" (Sola sriptura). One such sect claims that the authentic bible is the King James Bible, in English. Sounds to me like the copy of the Koran that has been in heaven since the beginning of time, "begotten, not created". Otherwise, the good King James was accused of crypto-Catholicism
- Association with political power. Protestants created national churches, such as the English one, in which the head of state is also head of the national church. A theocracy, at least potentially.
- Predestination. This is not a trivial coincidence, which leads to abandoning Charity and to favoring disoriented fanaticism.
- Disintermediation, rejection of the mediation of ecclesiastical hierarchies in the interpretation of sacred texts. Protestants suppose that the Holy Spirit will inspire the reader of these texts, written thousands of years ago, in other languages and circumstances.

 Protestantism, in distancing the presence of God from temporal life, did not begin by denying the divine derivation of the royal power then recognized, but favored the idea that this power was, yes, by the will of God - "God chooses the King" - but that such a choice had no transcendence, so that the King chosen by God did not have to rule as a divine vicar, but by his absolute will: "God sets the King, but the King sets the law" is the formula of absolutism. In this way, between God and the actual law, the omnipotent will of the King was interposed. And this absolutism derived from the Protestant heresy was easily transferred to the democratic powers that took the place of ancient monarchies, with the aggravation of totally dispensing with the divine origin of power, since the will of the people came to be divinized, replacing the will of God.

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I love my Protestant brothers. The only time I feel like we are speaking in two different languages and I feel frustrated are those Evangelical Protestants that take a dispensationalist view. I feel like that creates some very overt theological breaks that make it hard to come to mutual understandings.
What's the deal with the pope saying that every religion is a way to arrive at God?
Not interested in slapfighing, just want some info from Catholics.
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>>27000 (checked)
He actually means every religion is a way into his bank account.
>>27000
But this is literally the thread for slapfighting

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Anabaptism Appreciation Thread

Can we have an Anabaptism thread? Do we have Anabaptist brothers around here?

It dawned on me the other day that the very existence of modern Anabaptism is an irresistible sign of God's agency and will in history, even if you look at it with a "secular historian's hat" and not your own believer's conviction. Most Reformation groups had powerful temporal backing, even as they may have faced persecution at one time or another. The Anabaptists, on the other hand, have seen nothing but the sword. To know one's own identity as an Anabaptist, the believer truly gazes into the Martyrs' Mirror and becomes a stranger in the world, one who would not hesitate, by the Lord's mercy, to brave the possibility of being consumed to death in their zeal. This is a testimony this world needs. Selah.
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>>26989
Yes, persecution is a necessary condition of truth (John 15:18-20), but it is not a sufficient condition. If the world loves someone, then that would indicate that he doesn't have the truth. But the reverse is not always true: persecution alone is not sufficient proof that someone has the truth. The world is full of tribes and factions that are persecuted - it doesn't mean that they're all true. If it did, then Buddhists are true because they were persecuted by Hindus; Hindus are true because they were persecuted by Muslims; Muslims are true because they were persecuted by communists in Cambodia; communists are true because they were persecuted by western governments in the 20th Century; etc...
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>>26993
>The world is full of tribes and factions that are persecuted
The world hates Christ without a cause John 15:25. Lets go down your list and pick it apart one by one. Buhdists and Hindus are essentially the same thing. Buhdists were the original hindus and their economy and culture were upheaved by arabians as the arabians lusted after their riches. Indian hindu's were persecuted by arabian muslims because of the love of money, india was one of the wealthiest nations at the time of their invasion. In modern times they are at peace. In modern times they do not invade as india is a much poorer country. The muslims in Cambodia were persecuted by the vietnamese for invading their society as to destroy it and steal their stuff.

>communists are true because they were persecuted by western governments in the 20th Century
Do you have any proof of this? Western nations controlled by the ((( chaldeans ))) are far more communial and controlling of their economies then any soviet bloc nation was. 

Its very easy to see if the warring is because of lust or some carnal reason. The hard part is seeing if the persecution is because of some carnal reason or is without a cause. Did the neighboring states to where the mormon's settled in Utah like Missouri, have a cause to drive them out? They were of the same tribe
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>>26996
There was truly no just cause to hate Jesus. But you can't interpret "without a cause" in the absolute sense, because scripture does list wicked causes for which evil men persecuted Jesus:
>"For he [Pilate] knew that for envy they had delivered him [Jesus]." Matthew 27:18
>"If we [chief priests and Pharisees] let him [Jesus] thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation." John 11:48
In those two scriptures are listed envy, fear, and possibly greed and lust for power (worry over "their place" being taken away). Pilate ordered the crucifixion because he was afraid for his own life and position:
>"And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar." John 19:12

I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of historical argument because, like you said regarding the Mormons - it was just to serve as an example. I'm having trouble following your point. Could you be more explicit? Are you arguing that Anabaptists are persecuted without any cause whatsoever, and that is sufficient proof that they hold the truth?
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>>26998
<There was truly no just cause
You are adding words that were not there. Down the list we go again
In Matthew 27:18 the crowd had delivered Jesus unto Pilate for persecution, a democratic act by the way. Is envy a cause? To envy is to be jealous. Is jealousy a cause to hate a man? Hate is to hate a man. Envy is to be envious these are feelings not the feeling or action of hate. In John 11:48 you are putting words there that are not there, not once does it mention fear. Its more of a matter of fact statement. If anything you could argue that its a statement of greed of their positions. For the romans would have taken the chief priests and the Pharisees positions away.

As for the john 19:12 quote, Pilates sense of mind was to release Jesus not to hate Him as its heavily implied Pilate actually supported Jesus and did not hate Him in later verses e.g John 19:14-15
>And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
>But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Cæsar.

>Are you arguing that Anabaptists are persecuted without any cause whatsoever
Kinda sorta no and yes. Like in the example I gave not everyone is born after the Spirit e.g Ecclesasties 3:18-21. So there are those who can not recieve the things of God 1 Corinthians 2:11-14. Therefore they are of the world and would have a cause to war with eachother.

That is completely different then some carnal person without a spirit or some completely carnally acting person with a spirit manifesting the mystery of iniquity and pursueing a born again with a spirit disciple of Christ who is acting and thinking spiritually.

>and that is sufficient proof that they hold the truth?
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I'm going to spam some essays you will find offensive and edifying in this thread. This will be my containment thread. If you delete it I might start responding to seperate queries in other threads. I might do that anyways. I think the original author of these essays are dead. I'm backing them up in the deepest parts of the internet just in case.
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>>26969
>That would mean that for a long time (anywhere up-to 1600 years), Christians didn't have a copy of the NT without error
Wouldn't be anything new under the sun. After all, having the Christ and the prophets, yet erronously following after only what they wanted to hear out of the original Bible, a.k.a. the Living Word of God, a.k.a. Christ Jesus, is what most of ancient Israel does throughout most of the Old Testament.
>>26972
<Rabbinic Jews are not part of Israel
Your statement is a contradiction if it made any sense at all. Israel is defined in Genesis 32:28 as
>And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
So a descendent of Jacob is an Israelite, a son of Israel. Now read Genesis 14:13
>And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.
So Abraham and his sons, such as Isaac and Jacob, are hebrews. All the sons of Jacob, Israelites, are hebrews. Israelites therefore are Jews due to Jeremiah 34:9
>That every man should let his manservant, and every man his maidservant, being an Hebrew or an Hebrewess, go free; that none should serve himself of them, to wit, of a Jew his brother.
Jew is used synonymously with Hebrew in this context. The only situation I can even dream up to justify your idiocy is someone who was a descendant of Ishmael but not a descendant of Isaac after the split between the people of God and the rest of the world with Jacob e.g Galatians 4:22-28. They would be a Hebrew but not a Israelite neccessarily. Atleast 
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>>26974
A whole lot gibberish for saying nothing at all. I am not convinced by your arguments and will continue on using Israel for the Church and Rabbinc Judaism for the synagogue of satan.
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>>26975
If you are not convinced by the word of God in Hebrews 11 that Abel and Noah and Abraham are saved. How do you justify writing thus?
>that came to be part of Israel from that time on still follow the faith of Adam, Abram, Isaac, and Jacob.
If you were serious in your conversation you would be saying "follow the faith in Jesus Christ." Further more "Judaism" is not a word in the word of God it is a word the kikels, specifically the IDF, invented to confuse people. I am not sure what you are talking about when you say "Judaism" could you clarify what you are talking about? Preferably with Biblical sources
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>>26976
You are putting words in my mouth in again. Following the faith is following Christ, the head of the Church, Israel. I have said that multiple times. Maybe this might benefit you.
https://rumble.com/v240ex6-marching-to-zion.html

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