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The people of this movement like to think that it was better for the white race during pagan times—that Whites were less passive than they are now. Well, in reality, that was a yes and no. Yes, they did not subscribe to the cuckolded beliefs of christianity. No, they believed we had some sort of divine protection from the gods, among other cosmic bullshit similar to christianity. 

If Whites had abandoned the concept of spooks in the sky long ago, imagine what we would have achieved. We would have probably gone to the moon by the year 1500, colonized our solar system and neighboring star systems by the time Hitler was born, and became a type II civilization on the Kardashev scale by now. 

What would become of the other races if we abandoned the whole concept of religion or spooks in the sky? Well, they would simply be extinct. Because Whites are the best race possible within the limits of our universe's physics and biological laws, we would have likely been blasting the subhumans away with machine guns while they were still using bows and arrows and fucking swords. In addition to that, if we were an athiest society, we would have no qualms about wiping out subhuman races because we are not held back cucked moral codes and silly, childish superstition. Why, we would have wiped out the semitic races for the oil they stood on. Never mind being an existential threat.

In short, I think that Christcuckery and LARPaganism are both equally harmful to to our race in some way o
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It's because of materialism we're in this abjectly horrible situation, you moron.
>>8718 (OP) 
Based Ben Klassen reader.
Christians are the ones who destroyed the third position revival years ago and attacked various imageboards where our views were prevalent, just as /leftypol/ did so many years ago. As far as I've seen, there's never been a pagan movement screwing everything up. All the pagan or non-Abrahamic right-wingers I know tend to be pretty much in their own right, caring more about their lives and loved ones than using the Bible as a tool, both of conquest and of cope instrument.

Apart from that, last month I read Ancient Cities by Fustel de Coulanges, and although the author tries to imply that human society evolved in a positive way thanks to Christianity and certain revolutions, When you read the book from a tribalist and modern perspective you see how weak the family, patriotic and genetic nucleus has become thanks to the loss of the kin gods.

I'm not saying I want to see a bunch of Viking larpers, but I would prefer an Evola-like traditionalism than all this empty and cringe-worthy "Christ is Kang!" we have now.
>>8718 (OP) 
Christians are low information, low IQ LARPers.
The problem is that a huge chunk of our race are low information, low IQ natural LARPers.
If there were no Christianity or no religion, then they would have created one. Maybe it would have been better. I believe that anything natural and organic would be better than the artificial imposition of the semitic religion. We can see that the closest Christianity comes to being fun and meaningful is when it adopted pagan values and traditions.
But so long as a huge portion of our race think that repeating mindless slogans is spiritual, religion will remain.

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The average IQ of Israelis is 94, they're ugly and mediocre.

To demoralize the public, these Middle Easterners were pushed into the spotlight and made the center of everything.

The purpose of demoralization is to make people give up on community projects, to lose faith in humanity and pursue things as individuals because they don't trust others. Demoralized populations are easily exploited.

By putting Jews in the center of every organization, people disperse from those organizations because their impression of them is that they are disreputable and mediocre.

If you had a math society and the math society advertised itself with a Jew presenting a thesis that 1+1 did not equal 2 and the society endorsed it and paraded that Jew around on media, everyone would break with that organization and lose faith in human organizations in general. 

Using a mediocre Jew as the face of an organization causes White people to abandon that organization and do it enough times and they will have no faith in the quality of people in general and not organize towards their collective interests. 

This is a way of breaking down opposition to governments, corporations, and secret cabals by causing people to become individualists that can't accomplish much of anything as individuals.
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>The average IQ of Israelis is 94
because of sand nigga population's contribution
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>>695 (OP) 
>reddit spacing
>paragraphs composed of single sentences
tik tok brained zoomer retard detected
>>735
>Stop using the White term nigger
No.
>>696
>invents a new computer
Does it even compute?

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Upshot;
The right will lose virtually every realistic civil war scenario because
>The GOP will never go against the system
>All institutions are loyal to the ((( left ))) Jewish indications my own
>Comparisons with Afghanistan & Vietnam are not applicable to an insurgency within the US
>the military & police will not defect Who would they even defect to? We have no large organization for them to even defect to. See Syria as an example of what military defection takes
>attacking infrastructure will just alienate the population
>the right is incredibly disorganized and fractured. Moreso than the left. There is a LOT of backstabbing on the right.
>the right is an exceptionally low trust society and everyone calls everyone else a fed
>Conservatives won't even sacrifice a weekend to protest abortion, which they claim is as bad as the holocaust, they're not going to sacrifice their lives for freedom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcYYgcGjrP0
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>>8006
>Furthermore, for some reason we have this purity spiral induced expectation of perfect perfection among our public figures.
Are you going to shill for Trump next? Because this "purity spiral" you kvetch at is simple observational skill allowing a minimally intelligent person realize that nobody in power has our race's interests at heart, every single guy in the last decade or so that got touted as /ourguy/ turned out to be a shabbos goy, a glownigger deradicalizer, or a simple grifter lowlife. It's insane that a whole decade has passed and yet there's still ostensibly redpilled guys here that keep waiting for a public figure to personally give them the OK to behead kikes and gun down shabbos goyim. Stop fucking looking to Trump or Kanye or whoever you care to name for approval and justification, stop waiting for  the next Hitler and stop waiting for ideal circumstances to act. There's no political solution to our plight, nobody in government will stand for us, nobody in the public sphere is going to be the Chosen One. Hitler became leader of our struggle not because he was in power or because he had a public voice and a following. He attained those things because he took it upon himself to lead, because he had the initiative to unite those that were fighting for the same thing, and because he had the tenacity to see it through, come hell or high water.

The real prob
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>>8007
No. However, I have noticed that literally every single man who does step forward to lead gets torn down, not by the jews but by our own side.

Let us examine who, presently, are the most influential and IRL active leaders of the national right.
Thomas Rousseau is objectively, pound for pound, the most active physically IRL leader in the American national right. In terms of raw numbers, Patriot Front is probably around 6-800 at best. However, their level of activity is surpassed by not only none on the nationalist right, but literally no organization (trump rallies are not organization) on the conservative right.
So what's wrong? Half of us will not support him because they think he is a grifter or a fed. The other half tells themselves that he isn't pure because he doesn't talk about the jews enough.

Nick Fuentez a based border hopper. He is doing the jobs White people won't do. In seriousness, he commands the attention of thousands of young men, and has actually done things IRL, which is more than most e-celebs can say. He has created a platform that, as far as I am aware, gives a place without censorship for White men to speak freely. Like Andrew Torba but without the boomer facebook vibe.
So what's wrong? Again, there's a million little nitpicks against him. Half of our side claims he is a grifter and a fed and the other half nitpicks at his ideas or say, "Well! He isn't doing ENOUGH!" from the comfort of their literally done nothing chairs.

I hate to draw a blank after a list of two but I cannot immediately think of actually active nationalists. There are several small organizations led by other men.

I fully expect you to call me a fag for even mentioning these men. But they are literally it as far as American nationalists go. This is the problem. Every single time someone steps up to do something beyond talking, we all join forces to tear them down. If Hitler existed today, we would find reasons to hate him, call him a fed, call him a grifter, and denounce him as not pure enough. I am not saying that Nick Fuentez is Hitler. What I am saying is that we need to rise above our weird, self sabotaging culture. I will proudly promote anyone who is using their time on earth to stand up for my people, even if they are not perfect beings of pure perfect perfection. 

>there's still ostensibly redpilled guys here that keep waiting for a public figure to personally give them the OK to behead kikes and gun down shabbos goyim.
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>>8017
>Thomas Rousseau
Have you considered the possibility that nobody supports him because nobody knows about him?
He's been doing politics for years now and he's still stuck at the level of
>literally who?

>If Hitler existed today, we would find reasons to hate him, call him a fed
akshually

Also, why none of our most clever people has even bothered getting inside and taking control of say National Alliance? Pierce once managed to get something like a million people behind him if I remember correctly.
He should have shilled Cosmotheism to get tax breaks while sliding subtle pro-White material and then proselytize ad nauseam.
Muslims have some supposedly usury free banks. Why don't we? And then when these banks have enough leverage, why wouldn't we tie them to say, huh, "Caucasian" interests?
See, there's no real strategy. Lots of talks, lots of ideology, but just no big plan, no organization, no real networking and a constant fear of being le ebil raysiss.
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>Thomas Rousseau
Looks like he's about to become slightly more famous now that Mr. X has targeted him and his group.
>>8178
>Also, why none of our most clever people has even bothered getting inside and taking control of say National Alliance? Pierce once managed to get something like a million people behind him if I remember correctly.
He never properly trained or had an accepted successor or two before he passed away, that fault is on him.

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>Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom. ~Aristotle
If we understand what woke us up, we may be better able to awaken others or suggest media that will steer our unenlightened kinsmen down the righteous path.

Back in 2015, I got into the atheist scene, arguing with Christians. Eventually, I figured out that SJWs were way worse. I went to college so I was then exposed to the brunt of anti-White, anti-male hate. I believe that the feminist hypocrisy was most offensive to me.
This was in tandem with the race riots but I believe I was still a libertarian at heart and kept trying to get the blacks to understand that we should all just treat each other equally. What actually set me down the righteous path was encountering one guy doing Bob Whitaker's Mantra in a youtube comment. The whole, 
>They say that there is this "race" problem and that the final solution to this "race" problem is for non-Whites to pour into White countries and ONLY into White countries. They say they are anti "racist" what they are is anti-White. Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.
That sort of thing. Naturally, my propagandized brain freaked out and I argued with him. But these points intrigued me and I searched out more information to learn more about this new "threat" to my perfect libertarian worldview.
I eventually discovered WhiteRabbitRadio and listened to his podcasts.
I cannot explain it, but it gradually cli
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>>7942
>Guess we learned from that one. You CANNOT negotiate with liberals. They are pathologically insane.
They are feminine. Liberalism is literal laissez-faire in essence, submissive, passive, all in accepting the unacceptable. Weaklings who will so often turn coats and betray people when they see fit.
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>>7909
Every single white alive has been lied to about certain subjects their entire lives, and that number of subjects has increased over time. There's real time gaslighting going on and it's a major problem. That's the sad reality of the world we live in, and we need to acknowledge that when dealing with the general populace. Some people will reject being told the truth, others will skeptically doubt you but may eventually come around, and another group will admit what you say to be true.

If an individual learns the truth about one specific thing, that what they were told was a fabricated lie, then it naturally brings into question everything related to that subject. That one subject might pull into question tangential subjects and then the whole house of cards comes crashing down. Sometimes it's just a small redpill to form a crack in the conditioning, and then the redpill becomes self-perpetuating, self radicalizing.

I do have to ponder the merits of attacking the basis of a concept vs attacking the outcomes. Like pointing out how humans have interacted for thousands of years and massacred one another, but racism as a concept is barely a century old. In contrast to say, niggers are dumb and violent, it’s ok to be racist to them. Do we need to chip away at each level or do we just take a sledgehammer to the foundations and let the entire lie collapse under it’s own weight?

Despite all the censorship
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>>7960
If only that was so.
Liberalism is anything but laissez-faire. It's about enforcing total conformity to a fanatic religion. 

>>8051
>Some people will reject being told the truth, others will skeptically doubt you but may eventually come around, and another group will admit what you say to be true.
My challenge, I suppose, is to learn to humble myself when talking with idiots. I tend to get angry and insulting. I must stop doing that. It serves no purpose.

> pointing out how humans have interacted for thousands of years and massacred one another, but racism as a concept is barely a century old. In contrast to say, niggers are dumb and violent, it’s ok to be racist to them.
I am very much in the former camp in argument style. I feel that the former attacks the very foundation of the belief in racism while the latter plays into it.
To put another way, the average response to the latter is either
>lol
or
>Dats Racist Dough

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>>8063
>Liberalism is anything but laissez-faire. It's about enforcing total conformity to a fanatic religion. 
That's leftism or right-wing conservatism and both have an absolute love for democracy. Liberals just to where it's the most comfy at a given time and where the money is.
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>>8064
Yeah but no one means "classical liberalism" when they say liberal. It's a dead ideology. Maybe libertarians but even they shy away from the term. Leftism is like a cancer. Once it infected the word of liberalism, its body putrefied.

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What would an American National Socialist movement look like in the current year?

National Socialism has always been a hard sell to white Americans for a number of reasons that I'm not going to get into here. That said, I think that movements such as the Silver Legion and American Nazi Party can still be learnt from for the future.
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>>7901
>They were just that, beliefs, like that of pajeets praying in front of fucking sacred toilets.
You forefathers quite literally believed in everything they preached, this is something that even Platofags or retarded Christcucks can't deny. You are narrowing down your ancestor's beliefs to being merely schizo beliefs even though it is well-known that the Hellenics and Romans were autistic about appeasing the gods', two of the most sophisticated white people were apparently just LARPing all this time. Let's not forget that most of the most scientific geniuses believed in a God and were many were known to try to autistically prove his existence, such as Issac Newton.

>But you just could never get there, you new age asatroon LARPer.
Says the guy who associates with a group of niggers who are comprised of nothing, but pedophiles and LGBTHIV+ spergs? You're aware that atheism movements are filled with the brim with fags and queers, right? Being a racist or homophobic atheist is quite funny, because you niggers don't uphold morality as something sacred and fundamentally important.
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>>7939
<You're aware that atheism movements are filled with the brim with fags and queers, right? Being a racist or homophobic atheist is quite funny, because you niggers don't uphold morality as something sacred and fundamentally important.
Christnigger or mudslime? Whites prefer Whites even if said Whites were pozzed. It's not a matter of morality but of racial solidarity, who cares about beliefs? Let me paraphrase the banned gay anon, your skin is your uniform.
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>>7951
>Whites prefer Whites even if said Whites were pozzed. 
No they do not. Do you live under a roof? Pozzed Whites are self-hating degenerates who prefer non-Whites over their own kind. They will gladly see the end of their own race and it has shown to be that way numerously. If "pozzed Whites" are in solidarity with their own race, then why aren't there more fags willingly to sacrifice their sexual deviance and have White babies or call out anti-Whiteness? If anything, they outright deny White genocide and ridicule the concept of White nationalism.

>who cares about beliefs? 
You're on a ideological board that emphasizes on the importance of particular beliefs in order to accomplish a place for the White man. The idea that White people can simply accomplish a White ethnostate or sovereign nation through any means is unrealistic and impossible, and every NatSoc or fascist acknowledges this fact. Who would want a state like Israel, where degeneracy is tolerated? For example, Jewish women in Israel so-called champion their own kind as supreme and superior, but will miscegenate with Palestinian, White men and nigger chimps.

>your skin is your uniform.
Except for the clear and obvious fact that Liberal Whites do not see things this way.
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>>7954
>The idea that White people can simply accomplish a White ethnostate or sovereign nation through any means is unrealistic and impossible, and every NatSoc or fascist acknowledges this fact.
Are you disagreeing with the very idea of an ethnostate or are you saying that it cannot be "simply" done, especially through "any means" when there are so few ways to get at it?
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>>7961
I think what he's getting at is that these things don't magically come into existence on their own, they have to be actively grown and shaped, and that takes a strong will and a clear vision, i.e. beliefs.

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there is a nascent generation of ChinkTok zoomer NatSocs.
Their vigour is inspiring. Their numbers are unprecedented, far exceeding the “Alt-Right” fail.
This, as the split in the young teenage generation emboldens and emboldens.
On the one hand, there are incapable mutts, non-whites, etc. but the real split is between the two divisions of this age group that don’t use Instagram (as a trait, not exclusively).

On the one hand, there are trannies, degenerate egocentric sex fiends that watch anime videoessays, fawn over “old Internet aesthetics”, and spend most of their time in therapy.

On the other hand, though, is an increasingly cynical and pure birth of thought, even in the shoah’d depths of ChinkTok. Very young fascist youth. While it is easy to be cynical towards younger generations, there are pragmatic issues that arise for them as they grow up.

If they go on 4cvck /pol/, the most famous botted shithole, they find it in a much worse state than the stories describe it in.
Why should you believe me? Well, you can find clumps of them coalesced in both generic online places and on, say, the remnants of the sharty. It seems like Brenton Tarrant’s kebab removal has become a ChinkTok meme? If you have any doubts about their radicalism, there you go, that’s an easy way to find them, in the comments of any Jewtube reupload of remove kebab, etc. and there are thousands of likes on these comments… I can only imagine how big the ChinkTok/whatever presence must be for onl
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>>7035
So much of your retardation is wrong that it would be a huge time-waster to engage in 1:1 
So I'll address your most essential point, or the foundation of your entire post to which you say Hitler and the German Conservatives had the same worldview, ideal or "cause"
GEEEG
The fact you sincerely claim Hitler had any desire to ally with the conservatives and treat them as co-equals is fucking hilarious, man. You really must have alcoholism-induced brain necrosis, do I even need to state on who exactly did the 20 July Plot? or on why they exactly did it?
How many assassinations did he suffer from domestic leftists compared to fucking CONSERVATIVES and MONARCHISTS? So much for the same "cause"
Or how about he named his book originally "Four And A Half Years Of Struggle Against Lies, Stupidity, And Cowardice." to address the attacks against him from 'right-wingers'?
https://madmonarchist.blogspot.com/2011/11/enemy-of-monarchy-adolf-hitler.html (https://archive.ph/hSrIp)
How is National Socialism even the 'same' as German Monarchism? Who has not suppressed the idea of nations and ethnicites for centuries more than the Nobles and Monarchs? Who isn't more disconnected from the common folk?
HOW is this "Nationalist" and "Socialist"? Prove to me that they are the same exact cause.

First of all, Hitler didn't converse any single element from the previous regime, nor would he reactivate ancient dead regimes back to life. Conservative and reactionary aren't objective terms associated with traditional values, those are completely subjective terminology based on the guiding spirit/worldview of the nation. US conservatives are the way they are because guess what, they try to conserve the original position of the Enlightenment-era Antique Liberalism against it's mutated/"evolved" counterparts: That are the Cultural Marxists and other Leftists in this case.
The Soviet Union had it's own conservatives too, the 1991 Moscow Coup had the hardliners try to conserve Marxism-Leninism by fighting against the Democratic reformists.
Hitler 
>Stop right there. They won the elections after allying with the conservatives and all things considered, they barely made it despite that alliance. It wasn't a landslide. But I don't count on voting. The political party is just a way to spread our views and recruit people.
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>>5185
>soyjak

If you go there now you'll find out they nuked all the discussion about Tarrant or any "mass violence". The mention of it will now get you instabanned.
What now, OP?
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>>5175 (OP) 
>emboldens and emboldens
Did you mean "embodies and emboldens"?
>>7461
>So I'll address your most essential point, or the foundation of your entire post to which you say Hitler and the German Conservatives had the same worldview, ideal or "cause"
>The fact you sincerely claim Hitler had any desire to ally with the conservatives and treat them as co-equals is fucking hilarious, man.
Anon, it looks like you're not replying to the right post. I've read >>7035 twice and I don't see where there is anything you claim in it. If at least you had quoted the appropriate part which is the most basic thing to do in a serious discussion, just to make sure you have at least understood your opponent's claim and point of view, we could understand what had you react so profusely.
You may even be posting in the wrong thread.
>I'll address more points later a day or two, not wasting my time with someone who fucking confuses National Socialism/Fascism with Hereditary Monarchism or so, or how National Socialism is "conservative", "right-wing" et cetera.
Save yourself time and start engaging the post's content, not that imaginary claim that no one but you can read. It looks like you were reading another thread, the democracy one or maybe /NSG/.
>>6454
Most zoomers are extremely anti-Israel, this kind of rhetoric won't appeal to them.

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How will Fascism or National Socialism fix relations between men and women? Is there any fixing what has happened, or is it largely a case of removing the muddlers and the natural relations will restore themselves as a matter of course?

What is essential:
>ensuring a father can support an entire family, getting women out of the work-force
>encouraging and supporting large families through incentives, loans, etc
>encouraging men and women to marry earlier 
>making divorce more difficult
>banning pornography
>domestic discipline

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>>7128
the attempts at subversion here are top-notch
>>7128
>we
Abolish feminism and "Women's rights". And, if some democracy is preserved - make it one vote per family rather than per person.
>>14 (OP) 
>domestic discipline
Now that I can do.

>>1103
Yes, it's still some form of individualisme but paradoxically, extend to the family cell, although that cell is isolated in a suburb modern house.
It's a typical American 50s thing for example and it got worse with the habit of moving off to other states. This excess of mobility turned families into wholly packaged human resources. Latin cultures and families still living in the same vale for generations do not really experience that.
>>1352
Hitler flatly stated that the hierarchy was man > woman > children. For example, a man is a woman's world. You cannot have that if the man is a simp and only LARPs as the authority figure.

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Hard mode: no bickering, or confession/conspiracy to criminal activity per the laws of your state

SIEGE can be found on Internet Archive and on The American Futurist’s library page. If you live in the EU it is recommended that you use a VPN to access it and that you don’t download it.
Sieg Heil!
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>>6354
You're merely uneducated about what the Arab communities are doing in Europe, the crime they bring in and how they organize. It's largely about drugs, then grooming. What happens in other third world countries is starting to happen here. A mix of bribes and threats will get the local politicians in line with Muslim interests while their own people get closer to the heart of the host. Their organizing may not be stellar but it definitely exists and it's totally supported by their community, which is more than sufficient already and is what matters.
>>6355
>Jews haven't radicalised anyone. 
Maybe step out of your basement one day. Their actions are pushing people into literally hating them for exactly that. Of course we're not directly gaining much from this as Whites, but indirectly it weakens them. The issue however is that as their grip slightly loosens, it's only exploited by other foreigners who are not ashamed of defending their interests and even have the law on their side, contrary to Whites, since as you know it any White who fights for his interests is a [racist antisemitic hateful supremacist xenophobic bigot]. In the state we find ourselves in, I consider the beginning of some form of radicalization, whether it comes from the left or the right, as a regained freedom to openly oppose and attack the Jews. It's a first step and obviously nowhere close to a White radicalization the way we need it. It's nevertheless also bringing normies to think twice about it. Only old people stick to the TV but you get much more crunchy bits on internet and that has an effect. From there on, it becomes easier to tell them that all of this was already denounced by the NSDAP. And you can double down by telling them that many leftists converted back then once they saw the light. In respect for this board we can even point at Mussolini's own path who closely orbited far-left groups before moving hard right once he got more educated.
>And no, violence upon whites doesn't radicalise the whites which roll over like spaniels and start big boy crayon drawing their latest plans to get "political representation" or some other pipe dream. 
You are wrong about that too. In modern democracy, the only reason the right wing still manages to reach around 50% despite the huge foreigner voting base that goes full left is because most Whites align with right-wing views and as we can see today it's largely tugged by far-right parties. Not that these parties are anything good really but people want them to be good and want them to be far right. This however is only for observational purposes because there's no solution in democracy. It's useful as a metric on trends.
There's definitely a huge amount of waste too but I presume a lot of it comes from the boomers. The right side of the spectrum stays silent and rarely goes marching in the streets. On top of that you have all the people who don't vote. Of those who are Whites, there's no doubt that many have lost all hope in seeing a hard line right wing politician defend their interests, but their beliefs are there.
I also cannot think you are honest when you see that no White person would grow some massive hatred for the system, foreigners and those who generated the issues in our countries when they see the insults, rapes and murder and how most Whites work honestly to pay for parasites. Once again you don't seem to have much grasp with the real life and the way politics work. I'm more than certain that many Whites would gladly follow in and let themselves taken by the gush of air if a path was opened for them. They can't keep containing that resentment forever.
Masses free themselves, but one can easily observe that things have become worse nonetheless and masses can be prepared, made to some extent more compliant with our positions. The violence that existed twenty years ago seemed subdued in comparison to what we experience everyday and it didn't make it to internet the way it does today. Denying this evolution is ridiculous, it is verily real. Granted, it may be frustrating that it takes so long, that we have to reach that point of inflexion and despair for more interesting things to happen, but we cannot rewrite human nature. At large people tend to wait for the last moment when things can't get worse before really snapping. They always hope the issues will go away if they squint hard enough and if the evil eye would just set its gaze upon someone else.
>But it can cause a huge media shitstorm (heighten anxiety).
A media shit storm, totally artificial and part of the keyfabe, only happens when the Jews decide so, dumbass, because they control the medias. Like with Trump. That line of yours reminds me of the usual excuse acceleranons kept defending Breivik by claiming that he was forcing them to follow his oh so clever plot at manipulation, as if little Breivik could force the medias to say what he wanted them to say. Ridiculous. He, you and I don't have power nor any control over the medias.
Frankly I cannot believe something as banal as this has to be repeated there, especially to someone like you who thinks of himself as based and radical. You have no power over the medias, get it through your thick skull.
Foreigners being killed in groups is only exploited by the medias to lament their loss, make them martyrs, denounce racism and increase the powers of the surveillance state. Always.
>Whereas for example when you had that National Action lad take out some race traitor whore it wasn't talked about as much comparatively.
Yet it was the right thing to do, assuming she had any kind of relevant and effective political power. Only because otherwise killing a mere coalburner is retarded and won't get us anywhere in the grand scheme of things.
>No, we accelerationists aren't building an army
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>>6362
>Masses free themselves
don't*
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does anybody have hourfdecision777's SIEGE videos? there is an archive.org upload but its locked for some reason

https://archive.org/details/20201022_20201022_0526

the admin of TAF's tg channel (@nottheaf) posted one of them

 i cant find the rest anywhere online (probably because ((( google ))) and related services dont index anything siege related)
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>>6653
bumping this for exposure

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Logistically speaking, all good ideas that actually benefit humanity, are the ones that eventually take hold for the bettering of mankind.
If fascism really was so exceptional, many governments using this doctrine would still exist, the main reason for this to be the case is because most people are comfortable in the state things are, and there is no need to take that approach again.
Most changes that can harm civilization can be democratically corrected, if not, an alternative would always prop up. Let us not forget that the fascist movements that happened prior were democratically elected and spoke for the interests of the people, not for a minority or some other thingamagick.
I think we reached a point where violence and state subjugation is not necessary, and the responsibility for one's community is not only his but everyone's. By everyone gathering similar interests, things get done.
Anything else is... for a lack of better words, pointless.
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Fucking liberals.
>>6328
>The most successful will probably be militia type organizations that engage in intimidation rather than violence generally. 
That is usually what a mafia does. You've got the sort of nice politician who wants to keep things as peaceful as possible but then there are the wild dogs, both are complementary. The latter are necessary so that the government isn't too prone to dispatch its forces to arrest the politicians. It's a silent show of force and everyone must understand what is going on.
>There is simply never going to be a single savior who rides in on a horse and fixes everything.
That is like saying there would never be a Hitler, a Spartacus or a Genghis Khan, that these things are impossible. We simply cannot know and history is full of surprises. No one makes the claim that these figures will fix everything by themselves and just get bombarded into life with full powers and innate authority, but they will certainly emerge amongst the best of the best. Nature builds hierarchies very easily, it imposes order onto chaos.
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>>6339
Yeah but instead of one mafia, we would have, in my rough estimate based on the size of America and extrapolating how many insurgent organizations this country could support, we would be dealing with up to 440 distinct organizations which, if they operated from a cell structure (which they better fucking do if they don't want to be massacred) could translate into an even larger defacto number.
Of course, one could expect that up to half of this number are non-White organizations which may be, to put it mildly, excluded from the government. But we are going to need to accommodate at least a large number of pro-White militias which may hold differing views on government.

>That is like saying there would never be a Hitler
Okay but we've been waiting for a while now and I'd rather get proactive. When Hitler 2.0 comes around, I think he'd rather have something to work with rather than a race who spent the last 50 years waiting around.
You get a savior if only you deserve one.

Right, I know, that sounds a bit christcuckish but, well...
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The path to understanding what happened in this thread for more than two hundred seventy posts is by opposing the Great Man Theory, which is an idea which spiritually animated people intuitively perceive at first and may even explore and intellectually articulate later on. It is opposed to the Historical Materialism of Marxist origins that, with much irony, fundamentally denies the greatness of a few imprinting their influence onto the world in time altering shocks so as to reshape it in their wake and where the masses are largely powerless in this tempest of forces but find themselves played like pawns by divine powers.
Why would this remain a theory when it has become clear that one can only spend his life to reveal his innate potential, while greatness cannot jut from someone who never had the necessary seed of greatness, a sound principle of which it is necessary to establish once again the anti-egalitarian nature.

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Just a low tier, low effort post, to thank the bros doing the effort posts. I look forward to making this board my new slop consumption. When frenschan ded, i had no where, and i have been trying to do /pol with children at the sharty (it can be gemmy, but for the most part its nigger hell, and not even close to profound). Suppose this will be my replacement Frenschan unless some bros here can provide EVEN BETTER alternatives (im not big on telegram, the valuable information mixed with countless memes makes it an exercise in brainrot-not discounting there is some value to it, its just very cancerous without the profundity). 
In short, thankyou all again, thanks to whomever provides this forum, and i look forward to scouring all your posts.
1488, hail victory.

Go easy on me for using pepe the ogdoad meme, i just want my frens back.
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>>6151
One time? they spammed it for weeks on every board on 16, and on 4cuck repeatedly
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>>6140
The feds didn't shut down Frenschan like they did with 8chan, the owners did because they got tired and didn't make enough shekels from it.
You and OP crying about it just shows how much of zoomers newfags you are - especially (You) >>6120 constantly whining about moderation instead of fucking off away from here. If you weren't a clueless moron, you wold have known that in old /fascist/ we had a great race war general thread where our White Warriors were discussed and praised
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Welcome fellow frenfugee. Anglin's forum https://gameruprising.to is also worth checking out, although I only lurk. It's true that Orlog is a schizo faggot, but he's actually fairly light on the censorship when he's on his meds, so this place isn't too horrible. Just don't let him convince you that Dylan Roof was the greatest white nationalist since Hitler and you should be good
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>>6151
>Mods deleted and moved posts all the time for saying things they didn't like, this place is just as free.
Not on the topic mentioned in the post you replied to.
>>6149
>and you're free to say whatever you want here, unless Orlog determines otherwise
He already did so.
>There's plenty of room to discuss whatever one likes all you need to do is look through the catalog.
Disagreeing with appraising mass shooters and criticizing them or even believing there's something more sinister behind them was served with several bans just a few days ago. Please don't complain that the White people don't seem to find a way out of this mess if the rejection of terrorist plots as sus af is forbidden. All over these chans that are gone I saw more people provide the sanest possible counter-arguments to the saint cultism, this mind virus that seems just invented to hijack a genuine desire for pushing back those who want to destroy us. Arguments that were constantly ignored. Many of these heavily detailed discussions all got lost when the chans got deleted. The same will probably happen here. Only the Feds, kikes and CREST have access to archived versions of these chans and other SN channels no doubt about that.
Discussing with faceless anons became exhausting over the years, with very little useful return. I find chans to have largely run their course. IRL interactions with smart people from various backgrounds energized by a shared passion for the defense of our existence is far more fulfilling, and it's precisely because of how precious it is that I would not let any agitator jump into our groups and assemblies and start shilling any of those "let's spray bullets at Walmart" and "blow a building" projects within our ranks until we would all deem it acceptable to get to this point because we would have definitely entered a state of hot war against the International ZOG, and we would be sure to engage in a serious way by doing it the smart and professional way, not the ephemeral way of attention whores who don't remain operational more than one twenty four hours.
>>6157
How is advertising a bad thing again? Anyway the both of them are gone now.
>>6158
>the owners did because they got tired and didn't make enough shekels from it.
If that is true then the software infrastructure is still sleeping on some hard drive and may be acquired assuming enough cash can be presented to the current owners.
>(You) newfag
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I also miss the esofags of the B.O.N.D. threads. :(

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