>Primo de Rivera, the man who many revisionists see as "betrayed" by Franco, was able to get just one seat in parliament in 34, and his party didn't have enough muscle that could be compared to the freikorps or the SA.
>He was just a bourgeois kid ripping off italian fascism who was killed because the left were insane and paranoid about a fascist takeover. And despite all of this, Franco won an insurrectionary war against all odds and ruled for 40 years, but because Spain joined NATO and became a "democracy" after his death, that means he "lost" and nobody was saved from the left?
>We spaniards have a good climate; we love living well and sharing our lifestyle with others. We are not some north koreans who can live like drones in a permanent autarchic state. In the end the US-USSR coalition winning the war wasn't Franco's fault. But this doesn't stop some revisionist from claiming that Franco was a dummie for not joining Hitler's effort. Once Germany lost and Truman the rat was out of the picture…
>…Franco was perfectly reasonable in approaching Eisenhower. Franco was a very pragmatic leader, and that was his strongest virtue. He showed this when he united the carlists with the falangists, two factions with completely different conceptions of the state.
>And, most importantly, claiming that spain becoming a democracy is a "poetic win" for the spanish left is delusional. The spanish left isn't happy at all about losing the war and having a monarch (I am a right wing republican BTW) …
>…to remind them about this fact every day of their lives, among MANY OTHER more important things...in fact, I would claim that if Spain exists today, it is because of Franco, as the 1930s was probably the last time when catalonia and the basque country…
>…could have become independent nations with the support of foreign powers. During the Francoist era, the economy was integrated, and internal migrations happened that articulated spain in a way that greatly damaged the leftist project.
>This undermined the leftist separatist project and is the biggest source of secessionist resentment to this day.
>People from outside Spain just don't understand how sectarian Spain is. The only thing that prevents terrorist ETA members from having streets and monuments to their name all over Spain in 2023 is the fact they killed some moderate leftists.
>The Spanish left always wanted a revolution and mass killings of "fachas" (fascists), not "democracy", NATO or whatever.
>So no, Saint Francisco Franco didn't lose; in fact, he is the most successful counterrevolutionary of the XXth century and probably of all time. He won and saved the good people of Spain from marxist massacres, and few leaders in history have been able to achieve this.
The independantists were full to the gills of international communists. It's precisely on that fault line that they split, one side wanting to go the Trotskyist route, the other wondering what the hell this had to do with their own real femto-national revolt.
We wouldn't be having this stupid discussion if Franco had engaged all his forces with the Axis instead of trying to play all the angles as the hard conservative scheming opportunist he was.