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John 3:16 KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


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>judaism: incites extreme racial supremacy and hatred, and rape-torture of children
>islam: incites violence and murder of people with different beliefs, and woman oppression (and it also indirectly forbids anime because art is haram)
>hinduism, buddhism, folk religions, etc: utter schizo shit, and many of them are inhumane too
>no religion: makes you a gay rootless redditor who thinks he's smarter than everyone

>Christianity: preaches love, etc and if you look at it from a religious perspective it's also beautiful because of the whole God sacrificing his son for humanity's sins thing
>it's also not schizophrenic/too unscientific

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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>>22012 (OP) 
AMEN
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>>22012 (OP) 
Amen. I have found that Christianity perfectly explains almost every phenomena in the world when it comes to the sinful nature of humanity, the fall of man, the direction that history is taking, and many more things. The fact that we cannot merit our salvation, and must be saved by grace, and not our works, is very different from the religions of the world as well. Even socially, the idea that doing unto others as you would have them do unto you is the perfect moral rule, and while it is true that it appears in other religions, it manifests itself most purely in the Gospel. The relations between man and woman talked about by Paul, and how they are equal, but different, are also extremely important, not going to the extent that Islam takes it, which hates women. 

Nothing comes close.
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>>22012 (OP) 
Problem being satan has infilitrated and created many churches and written many "bibles" of his own and people don't want to discern, they don't want to rely on God for wisdom, they don't want to pray to God for wisdom and guidance, they want to rely on men and the world or themselves for wisdom.
You forgot the most important part
>Christianity: Is true.
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Why do you talk about beliefs like they're fashion statements? 
>it's also not schizophrenic/too unscientific
So you think it's somewhat unscientific? Why do you believe in it then? Because you don't want to be a "gay rootless redditor"? You want to be cooler than "those people"? That's pride.
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>>22332
Natural science isn't the end of all that is possible to be known.
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>>23273
True. The very fact we have directly-observable scientific proof of the historical beginning of the universe is the Christian's best friend when it comes to apologetics. Sadly, the vast majority of the body of Christ today don't even recognize the wonderful boon to our gospel message that the so-called 'Big Bang' actually is. It 'directly' correlates with the Christian Biblical message, and is an extremely strong argument for the Divine inspiration of the Biblical canon.

Many non-theistic scientists & philosophers from the 1700s through the mid 1900s recognized that if it could be shown that the universe was in fact limited in time & space, then it threatened their materialist views at the most basic & fundamental level. They proposed the 'steady state' universe with both infinite time & infinite space to explain the observable -- particularly life. 

After Einstein, et al, and particularly with modern astronomical/cosmological observations, we know the hot creation origin of the universe is real, and that the Christian Bible got it right all along.
>tl;dr
Even a child knows that if the universe had a beginning, then something must have existed before it.
What Who was that?
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>>22018
lol
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>it's also not schizophrenic/too unscientific

You almost converted me, but failed me at that part.
>nujaks
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>>23278
>Even a child knows that if the universe had a beginning, then something must have existed before it.
That just moves things one step backwards.
>>26725
Even worse, it is AI generated.
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>>26726
That just moves things one step backwards.
To the uncaused source of all things, which is logically necessary for the existence of something which does have a cause.
Its a simple premise; anything that has a begin, and we know the universe does for multiple reasons such as entropy, requires something to begin it. 
>That just moves it back
Is a non-argument in the first place, since it still doesn't provide an explanation for how anything exists. Indeed, materialism can never explain how anything exist. The very nature of everything in the universe requires something unbound by that nature to even be here.If nothing uncaused could exist, than nothing could exist.

But the universe itself cannot be this uncaused source because know it had a beginning, we know it is undergoing entropy and changing into an ultimate state of uniformity which is fundamentally incompatible with the idea that the universe always existed because then the universe would have 'already' reached that state
In short, the finite logically cannot exist without the infinite.
>incites extreme racial supremacy
>and woman oppression
>utter schizo shit

Stop making demon worshippers sound good.
>>22029
so trve anon, so trve
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