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I brought this issue up in the /v/ gamergate thread and was told to repost it here.  For reference, I'm >>>/v/26109.

To summarize, I wanted to know why minor shitposting was deleted in the gamergate thread even though other threads (like the first FPS general) had much more and much worse periods of shitposting/calling OP a faggot at the start.

The reply I got from Seagull (presumably; no capcode) was >>>/v/26199, which claimed that deleting bitching about the threads was not preferential treatment because these threads are allowed under the rules - even if the rules literally refer to them as "special" threads, and no other threads get scrubbed like that.  Yes, I'm aware that the rules put ""special"" in quotations, which somewhat diminishes the strength of the word, but the fact remains that they are exceptions to rules like "effortless threads will be met with ridicule."

Seagull said to take the issue up with the BO, so here we are.  I'm sure that the reply will be "stay mad faggot these threads are BASED and always allowed!" but I'm just going through the proper channels.

And before anyone tells me that this shouldn't come as a surprise, it's not the presence of gamergate threads that I'm specifically taking issue with (although I do maintain they are worthless and attract all kinds of non-vidya attention whores).  My point is that if
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>>2084
This is going to get me confused with blacked.moe posters too much, come up with something more specific
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>>2088
The only blacked.moe retard that cries about pasta is Mark on his own board, most of that place couldn't give 2 fucks about zzz/v/s existence and are completely indifferent. Unlike back on /vg/ Mark can no longer getting away with samefagging FUD about other places because most people have caught on, so he hasn't been able to effectively sow discord. The only person that complains about pasta on zzzchan is Eden. Mark's signature is saying something along the lines of "I know cakekike can be bad but man this guy is terrible". There are some other signature phrases he uses but I'm too lazy to find my list.
>>2088
Shut the fuck up, Eden.
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>>2084
Hello Eden.

Image unrelated.
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>>2075
>>2076
Rules apply to this alleged "Luciano" guy as much as they apply to anyone else, if his post aren't actively derailing a thread he can say what he likes. In short, no "Luciano" is not a ban/delete worthy offense.
>>2069
>>2071
>why? I noticed he's barely been active ever since new year, is he bitching out or what
>He's busy with work
Busy with TUBES, but don't concern yourself with that.
>>2081
>>2082
Hi.
>>2084
HI EDEN

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WHERE IS IT? WHERE CAN I DISCUSS CARS AND NO, NO CUCKCHAN!
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>>2103 (OP) 
Apply for one then.
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>>2104
I don't know how to moderate and also I kinda don't want to be a bo
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>>2105
Oh well just wait for someone to take the reigns of /o/ then. I'd like to see an /o/ on the webring too just to get back into being an aut/o/ autist without having to go back to cuckchan.
/o/ - otamatone
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>>2107
No cars.

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I think it's time to get rid of those D&C (((Discord))) goons once and for all. Recently, the (((herdniggers))) have been shitting up various sites even harder including /monster/, Nanochan, and zzz/b/. To make those subhumans fuck off forever, I propose for Sturgeon to recruit more global vols and change global rule #2 to be more vague so suspected (((herdspeak))) that is detected can be deleted alongside borderline images. An example of the global rule #2 change proposal is
>Don't post pedo shit (obviously, retard)
Just be careful on who is being recruited as a gvol. A good start would be to send recruitment email offers to whoever owns a board before /a/ was created on zzzchan, asking a few questions like what timezone and active times. Sturg can choose whoever to email at his own discretion.
>inb4 fears of getting called a big rulecuck and bleeding anons
(((They))) already whine about zzzchan rulecucks not allowing any nude 3DPD children anyways. Losing (((herdniggers))) won't be a big deal anyways. Nothing of value will be lost. If the mods keep allowing (((herdniggers))) to stir up shit, then this site will meet a horrible end.

In short, global mods have to stop being pussies and evict the (((
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>DELETE!
>DELETE!
>DELETE!
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yeah, no.
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>>2098
>>2097
die pedos, on day of the rope you'll swing from lamp posts along niggers and kikes
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>>2099
larp harder if you think you can
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キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!

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Post all your suggestions in this thread.

My first and biggest suggestion is to add thread watcher.
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>>1410
Lick the cyanide and die already normalshit 8cuck
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>>1519
>this is your brain on guntstream
Any chance you could enable .swf file uploads so we can have good ol' flash threads? Cakechan has that.
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>>2090
That's not up to Sturgeon. Tom needs to give us .swf support
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>>2091
There is a config option in JSchan to allow custom file MIME types somewhere. I'm sure sturg could enable .swf support himself.

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THE CUCKCHAN RAPEFUGEES ARE COMING TO THE ENTIRE WEBRING SOON. THEY ARE ALREADY MASS MIGRATING TO NANOCHAN
hoihoi might just mass murder the cuckchanners and survive the exodus
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/301756839
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/301756839
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>>2016
There are still bigger imageboards out there. Also there is bigger chance the 4cucks will litelary rush the capitol and kill everyone in it then this being fully raided.
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>>2015
>Or god knows 2chan? How is it called now?
If you are talking about the 2channel/2ch textboard, it has been rebranded as 5channel/5ch as a result of the pig farmer stealing 2ch from gookjew https://5ch.net 
If you are talking about the 2chan/Futaba Channel imageboard, it's still around to this day https://2chan.net
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>>2017
>then this being fully raided
COME THEN, CUCKCHANNEL, LET'S SETTLE THIS!
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>>1991 (OP) 
/b/ already has admitted cuckchanners already swarming it, not to mention the recent herdnigger/fed CP spam on /monster/ too.
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>>2065
>herdnigger kikes are everywhere now
we live in very dark times

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ACHTUNG! ACHTUNG! THIS IS NOT A DRILL

Though pic related could be just shitposting, let's be honest here, something like this will likely be happening soon anyway. I doubt the webring is in any immediate danger because of it's obscurity and decentralized nature, but the menace of mass cuckchan rapefugee influx is a very real threat if it does go down. Everyone is advised to hold down to their butts, duck and cover and be prepared.
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>>2049
Go back there schizo normalnigger.
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>>1982
>>1983
>>1989
This has been spammed all over cuckchan since the election when it started having errors for a couple of seconds due to the increased traffic. Not saying that Cloudflare wouldn't deplatform some sites when they feel like they need to make an example of someone again but the screenshot looks more like the n-th iteration of the same old cuckchan hoax. What about Ruskie Cloudflare, do they deplatform?
>>2049
>knowing that cuckchan was down
Wait a minute
If I have a custom spoiler on my board will it show as such on the overboard? I imagine not because it's attached to the board specific custom css
>>2050
kys kike

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It's time for plw to die and zzzchan will be its successor. With the lack of moderation and the abundance of shit stirrers, a lot of users are pissed and looking for an alternative. Fish, you need to create a /animu/ board here and regulate it better than the plw one. Then we will start with the smaller boards and eventually plw will die on its own and lolretard finally kills himself. Perfect plan
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>>1537
What if the board owner of zzz/a/ or zzz/animu/ ends up banning vtubers, which he already plans to do?
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>>1538
The people on plw/animu/ like Vtubers
They won't fit in and most likely will force til  BO gives in or bans em
god who cares
So how is ProKikeWoah doing currently? Does loleron actually do shit? Does Stazi actually do shit?
>>907 (OP) 
kill yourself retard falseflagger, operate you're mum's asshole must die

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>>1885
>I have watched vtubers since the very beginning. I watch vtubers with anywhere from millions to less than a hundred subs.
Okay. I'll try my best not to judge.
>Of course they are separate from a stream. It makes no sense to release a song as a stream. Vtubing is not married to streaming as its only possible format.
There's streaming and there's making videos. Production and presentation is what matters for the content - for videos and streams AND it is their channel that makes that possible. If you try to claim broadly that "vtubing" is also about their albums, songs, drawings, etc etc you are selling their story instead of looking at their channel with a sober head.
In short, production and presentation matters and almost no one does this.
>Vtubers do karaoke and drawing streams all the time.
Yes, and yet there's still no consideration towards the presentation.
>Some vtubers are primarily singers and/or put out single and album releases. Inuyama Tamaki was releasing music before she even become a vtuber and Nanahira has long been a famous doujin singer. Tamaki is also a published mangaka with an anime adaptation, Pochimaru is the illustrator for Okaa-san Online, and Shigure Ui is the character designer of Subaru (hololive). There are more examples like this.
Okay, so that tell me what, they're good at different things? Okay, I can understand that. But can they make good content with these things? A good song is an ASSET, ASSET that you use for something. Anime OP's are just OPs without the animation itself. I can find a good songwriter somewhere and I can find a good drawer and I can enjoy their works, but "vtubers" want to make videos or stream, that's them. They don't use their songs or drawings towards EVEN BETTER content or EVEN BETTER presentation, they're just there, there is no evolution, merely production. Not to detract from their efforts or anything, but they make potential assets and just present them.
>Again, gaming and talk streamers are standard fare for vtubers. She is not doing anything out of the ordinary. I don't know how you can't comprehend this.
Please don't give viewers stage 4 cancer
>Where are you even getting all of this shit from? You barely know anything about vtubers. You're just throwing accusations at the wall hoping that some of them stick. There are hololive and nijisanji members who have literally talked about the practise they've been doing for live events.
Even more projecting. I've mentioned "practice" that Coco fucked off to in a previous post, even. What matters and saves "vtubers" is CONTENT and we don't even know if live shows will make good content for youtube even (since that's where their content is). If a live show turns out to be a lot of fanservice and NOT something that's suited as a video, then they're evolving away from good content, simple as that.
And no, there is a specific, CERTAIN definition for "good content" instead of subjectivism. If you try to go "CONTENT QUALITY IS SUBJECTIVE" then holy shit this is a waste of time.
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>>1939
Since e-something means it's something that's virtual or online only, wouldn't a vtuber be an e-e-celeb?
>>1887 (OP) 
>There's streaming and there's making videos. Production and presentation is what matters for the content - for videos and streams AND it is their channel that makes that possible. If you try to claim broadly that "vtubing" is also about their albums, songs, drawings, etc etc you are selling their story instead of looking at their channel with a sober head. In short, production and presentation matters and almost no one does this.
Vtubing is also about their albums, songs and drawings. That is simply the way it is, and I am not comprehending why you are even trying to dispute it.

>Yes, and yet there's still no consideration towards the presentation.
What even is this "presentation" that you keep obsessing over yet never define? And what would you know about vtuber karaoke streams?

>Okay, so that tell me what, they're good at different things? Okay, I can understand that. But can they make good content with these things? A good song is an ASSET, ASSET that you use for something. Anime OP's are just OPs without the animation itself. I can find a good songwriter somewhere and I can find a good drawer and I can enjoy their works, but "vtubers" want to make videos or stream, that's them. They don't use their songs or drawings towards EVEN BETTER content or EVEN BETTER presentation, they're just there, there is no evolution, merely production. Not to detract from their efforts or anything, but they make potential assets and just present them.
Songs, music videos, albums and concerts are content. They have as much as "evolution" anything else. Vtubers are, again, not magic. They don't follow some magic rules that you just pulled out of your ass.

>Please don't give viewers stage 4 cancer
How am I giving anyone cancer by plainly stating simple, unremarkable, factual things about her channel? You sound like a snowflake.

>Where are you even getting all of this shit from? You barely know anything about vtubers. You're just throwing accusations at the wall hoping that some of them stick. There are hololive and nijisanji members who have literally talked about the practise they've been doing for live events.

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>>1940
This might sound like shilling later on in this post depending on how you look at it, but I want more imageboards around instead of centralization coming back. Fulfill the purpose of the webring to create decentralized imageboard instances.
>Why not create a separate tengu style board for chuuba discussion if the meido shortage is that bad?
I have doubts that sturgeon would be willing to create anymore entirely new boards besides existing ones that are willing to setup bunkers here after what happened with /a/. If you still want the vtuber board, either create it on a different webring site or a very good thing to do is to create your own site with the vtuber board, preferably running meguca since its cheaper, has liveposting, and vtuber discussion is better suited for liveboards. Or you can just go with JSchan if you still prefer the traditional imageboard.

About meguca/liveboards
>meguca since its cheaper
Meguca is AGPL licensed and free. Hosting an average meguca instance is cheaper than hosting an average traditional imageboard due to meguca auto pruning threads after a dynamic amount of X days while traditional imageboards tend to keep the threads around for possibly the whole site's lifespan if the board is dead.
From the dead chen2 frontpage 
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>>2033
>Hosting an average meguca instance is cheaper than hosting an average traditional imageboard due to meguca auto pruning threads after a dynamic amount of X days while traditional imageboards tend to keep the threads around for possibly the whole site's lifespan if the board is dead.
Shouldn't it also more efficient with the backend being written in go/rust? Lat can however take his goddamn v7 and shove it up his ass. Is he still planning to remove boards alltogether? Haven't really found any instance I like better than the original meguca but chen/pol/ was very fun.
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>>2037
>Is he still planning to remove boards alltogether?
Yeah seems like he is doing that. See pic related.

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WHY DID YOU DELETE /a/ YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>1977
>I'm also more than a bit peeved that this was seen as a better idea than a poltically-oriented board. 
>a bit peeved
lol you mean you're extremely butthurt about /pol/ because you're the mouthbreathing retard who requested it, and I hope to god sturgeon is never going to be shortsighted enough to actually give it to you. fucking sperg. go back to running gaymoo and pretending to be the savior of video game boards.
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>>1985
Damn dude, you’ve really got a chip on your shoulder - you need your gamergate threads that badly, son?
Maybe Eden was right about /a/ dying very fast again.
>>1951
>remember sperging the fuck out
>visit thread
>see that one guy that didn't argue at all
>(you)
I probably should have taken the 15 too. Is that what australian were-shitposters feel like?
I'll admit the BO of /vhs/ slash /a/ is doing a bang-up job samefagging for this long. I wonder when he'll tire of populating the board by himself.

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I'm making a new thread because this is important.

Allow new threads to be made earlier in /v/. Popular threads get bumplocked and then get stuck in the middle of the catalog for many weeks, wasting a big chunk of potential discussion because people don't see new posts and thus won't reply. And don't give me this "just go down the catalog" shit, if you think about it for 7 and a half seconds, you'll realize that there's no way for people to know when someone posts something on that thread without either specifically checking that thread over and over and over just in case someone posted or by memorizing every thread's post number. Nobody wants to do that shit, thread bumping was invented for a reason.

>but muh catalog will fill with repeated threads
So fucking what. You're basically using problems with the IB software and moderation inconvenience and ancient months old threads as reasons to reduce board activity. Nobody cares if one of the 3 month old friday night threads gets deleted in favor of a new thread about cyberpunk that everyone wants to shit on.

This is, in my opinion, one of the foremost mistakes that imageboards make. I recall in 8chan the activity in /agdg/ always plummeted as soon as the thread got bumplocked, what exactly is the benefit of this? Assume there's no problems with the catalog filling up or whatever, why would you argue in favor of this? You fucking wouldn't.
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Reply you niggers.
Or make me a moderator and I will personally micromanage bumplocked threads to make sure there's never more than 1 "duplicate" thread at a time, or whatever you want.
what is the point of a bumplock anyway? I never understood that
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>>1930
There is none, it's a leftover from 4chan which has had it since time immemorial and nobody ever bothered to think about it since. Bumplocking and bump limits function as a replacement to having pages on the thread like normal forums do, you need one or the other or else the thread bloats until it lags up your browser. Bumplocking itself works as a soft-lock, you can phase out the thread without abruptly locking it entirely, so people have time to migrate and post links to the new thread and don't necessarily have to reply to people across threads.

The primary problem with bumplocking however is as mentioned; there's a time period where nobody outside of the thread can see when a new post appears, and thus can't respond to any discussion or questions. This was never a problem in 4chan since it's so fast that threads get deleted shortly after bumplocking, but it becomes a problem in slower imageboards like these where threads get stuck in the middle of the catalog for literally weeks or even months and then some naive BO says that you can't create a new thread because one already exists.

The ideal next evolution of the bumplocking design (as opposed to pagination) would be to allow a new thread immediately after a thread gets bumplocked, and then handle the previous thread in some other way than just leaving them all in the catalog. Ideally you'd solve it with imageboard engine features like some kind 
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*Bumplocking and post limits function as a replacement
>>1585 (OP) 
I've had to hardlock an entire thread manually. I second this, either remove bumplocks on threads or throw the bumplock at around 480 replies. 20 replies to bloat the thread with isn't too hard; 100 replies, however...

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