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Friendly reminder that /k/ooks don't even bother opening a new Hummus vs Isreal thread despite discussions about the war leaking to multiple unrelated thread because they'd hate to see their beloved shitskins getting bombed to stone age without any chance of retaliation.
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>>6265
Just, like, do it yourself.
>>6265
That's just how snowniggers do things. You guys noticed that Puccian government is practically banning Youtube now? They're probably don't have enough budget for counter propaganda against real news after buying all those soju loving porn addicted pinkoreans. 
The Soviets are back for Cold War 2.0, I'm telling you.
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>>6268
Cold War never ended, boomerman, just entered another phase.
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>>6269
You lost the first phase or whatever you call it, Potsreot. Now sit back and enjoy the ride as the Chinks spearhead the 2nd cold war.
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>>6274
Anon, let's cut the bravado and be honest with ourselves: the American and Soviet government personnel won that part of the Cold War and made out like bandits, both populations lost it. We exist, sometimes live in a world where there is no real great ideological struggle, only aggressive debates over management.  The Russians are just mildly more pleasant about it.
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>>6284
>be honest with ourselves:
Sure thing, Katsap.

>Soviet government personnel won that part of the Cold War and made out like bandits
Inheriting nothing but 3rd world shitholes to govern isn't really what I call winning. Did you confuse them with post-Soviet oligarchs?

>both populations lost it.
Cry me a river, Ivan. Your population makes less money than brown SEAmonkeys and struggles for basic health not unlike African nignogs. Your HIV, Rabies and vodka epidemic on the general population makes Canal Street look as sterile as your hospitals. Decades of Jewish ideology forced on you makes no one in that snow laden shithole understand the essence of fair play, so everyone in contact with your government are corrupt to the core. Don't even pretend you're on the same level as any country with drinkable tap water. Even your ex colony Finland is light years ahead of you in terms of quality of life.
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>>6288
>>>/reddit/
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>>6289
This post is brought to you by snowpoojeet community.
>>6288
Are you talking about Neo-Hyperborea, Canada's ethnic neighbourhoods or glorious Judeo-moslem brotherhood-ruled Syria?
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can you go back to 4cuck? thanks
You lot should really stop taking the bait.
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>>6310
Nobody is taking it though really.
kinda proud of you faggots.
>you are now posting in the designated shitting thread
>>6291
I like this post it's an acknowledgement of this whole  deracinated atheisitc gay new world order hell we all inhabit collectively.
>>6323
>Thought Trump and Greenland was a wild spin when I first heard it from a normalfag coworker.
>But it's real.
>People voted for him because they thought he was the anti war candidate.
>Turned out to be so pro war he is not not ruling out the chance to invade neighbors if it means also harming China and Russia.
Whew, Jesus Christ. Thank God I didn't vote.
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>>6326
Perhaps it's a ruse for seizing some disputed Kuril islands like the Chinks did in the Spratlys, or at least that's the impression I get when washing anti-Poutine ゆっくり動画。
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>>6327
Sadly I would be more inclined to believe that if Trump wasn't best friends with a people getting away with active genocide of their neighbors before a live international audience. Trump has a long way to go and a big body count to catch up on if he wants to be like his Jewish masters.

It also reminds me of that one time in WWII just before the USA's Africa campaign against the Germans. The USA campaign wanted to land at an African port controlled by the French military. But the French refused a USA landing. So the USA invaded the port and fought and killed French soldiers until the French surrendered the port to the USA. Point is, the USA going to war with people who are not their enemies, if it ultimately hurts who the USA is actually hating, is not a new idea that is too shocking to happen.
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>>6319
Its Norks in disguise now anon
>>6326
Doesn't help Greenland is lately known for their injun inhabitants when tourists go there so in Europe the meme is about americans wanting to do another round of red men sacrifices.
Yesterday the joke was about Trump wanting to rename the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America and also wanting to annex the mexican long stretchy states called the lower Californias so it's all either a big comedy routine or a big Anschluss minus the credibility of people there actually wanting to unite (on both sides) and a plus for an upcoming massive surge on domestic terrorism when people oppose.

Doesn't help Mexico has always been neutral to friendly with Russia in all its 3 modern phases (monarchy, soviet, federal) so this is all a step further into rocking the boat. Mexico's army is below third world in terms of offensive capabilities but hundreds of thousands of possible violent sleeper agents inside the US is a massive risk. I know there's millions of illegals but i mean the young male adults who could be capable, ideologically speaking, of wanting to do some damage.
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>>6330
Dup=Jewish Hitler confirmed?
Is he gonna add MEFO bills to the mix as well?
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>>6332
>Dup=Jewish Hitler confirmed?
Well, the USA is a Jewish colony. And Jerusalem and Babylon are the same "the great city" that has power over all the world in The Revelation. Therefore if the USA(Israel) trying to land grab literally everything isn't a part of God setting up the Whore of Babylon, then it is surely no less than God giving everyone a reminder of things to come. At the rate Trump is throwing everything to Jewish interests before he's even in office, I am half open to the possibility of Trump trying to rebuild the Temple of David during his reign.
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>>6326
>Thank God I didn't vote.
<If I ignore it, maybe it will go away.
Okay.
>>6327
>Kierkegaard
Some 2 centuries and world hasn't ended nothing ever happens. Okay??
I doubt Trump could point out Japan on a map, let alone the Kuril islands.
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>>6335
If I ignore it, it doesn't go away. But it helps with avoiding false dichotomies and demagoguery. Not playing the game is the only winning move. Even unto death in the event the Jews, or one of their puppets, rolls up onto the doorstep anway demanding I bow down and worship their gods of freedom, democracy, and money, under penalty of death. For the time to "do something" about the Jews was in the early-ish 1900's. But then the Holocaust didn't happen. The Haavara Agreement happened instead.
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>>6336
The way things are right now are only temporary, it might take a really long time, but eventually evil looses because evil is inherently self destructive.
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>>6336
>Not playing the game is the only winning move.
>winning
No, it's cope. At best a paltry consolation prize of losing on your own terms.
>>6337
>it might take a really long time
Heat-death of the universe will eventually fix everything.
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>>6339
I probably don't have a thorough understanding of what I'm talking about as much as you do so my opinion might be naive, but I don't see the point in moping around when you could instead further asses the situation, come up with creative ideas to deal with it, share your ideas with others to refine them, and make decisions based on the most accurate information possible.
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>>6337
>evil looses because evil is inherently self destructive.
Explains why every country east of Lithuania has been nothing but shitholes.

>>6328
>Point is, the USA going to war with people who are not their enemies
<implying Vichy France was not an ally to the Germans
Imagine failing this bad in history.
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>>6344
<implying Vichy France was not an ally to the Germans
Kind of like how Greenland is soon to be interpreted as an ally to the Russians and Chinese lol, because it's not sinking Russian and Chinese ships in its waters.
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Massive Data Breach at VW. if you have GPS enabled be careful stroloks. GPS coordinates leaked from 800,000 vehicles
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>>6349
its like a map of an infectious disease
>>6342
>when you could instead [do your best]
I wish you well strelok.
>>6345
>Greenland is soon to be interpreted as an ally
If you're not against us you're with us, so that's the modern take?
>>6349
>be careful stroloks
How exactly? Driving around you're already in the pubic eye to begin with, with a well-visible unique identifier attached to your ass none the less. At worst it pinpoints that you (or your car rather) was at place X at time Y. I'd guess each car has a unique ID in the dataset, not sure how easy it would be to match with a license plate though, let alone who was driving at the time. Maybe a handful will get caught with their pants down from this but overall a nothingburger. Though I'm sure a cohort of lawyers and corpo types will be milking this shit for a while.
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>that Spain-Portugal discrepancy
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>>6359
Spaniard here. Most people in Spain live either around Madrid (the center) or the coasts, specially the mediterranean one. Also VW it's not the most common car brand here, not uncommon but not the most popular, at least by eye.
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Why is there no new Ukraine/Russia thread?
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>>6370
Because no one made it yet. 
come on a week or two between threads is nothing, its not like there will be any truly meaningful changes to the frontline
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>>6372
From testing I did on >>6373 there was plenty of posts on the 10th, but only two on the 11th and one on the 12th; and most of the posts on the 13th so far have been mine.
It is my conclusion that when threads about ongoing wars are not immediately available, most anons default to not posting at all before creating a thread themselves. This I believe significantly hurts PPH and therefore contributes to board and community death.
I'm sorry for being overly formal here, but I don't believe this is a good idea.
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>>6374
So make a thread.
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>>6378
I wrote a draft but got too anxious and deleted it OP always gets bullied
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>>6370
>>6372
>>6374
>>6378
>>6379
Hey streloks, I just checked with my sources and war ended so there's no need for a new thread. This board is over too, then, I suppose.
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I'd really like to revive some other threads aside from the two ongoing wars threads
>Ninja and Samurai Gear  >>1193
>Fantasy Weapons, Armor, and Armaments  >>1188
>Vidya thread  >>727
I don't have a lot new at the moment so I hope other streloks would contribute.

Additionally What does everyone think about a new gardening thread? A new one never got remade after the move and it's around the time for planning to begin.



>>6379
>>6381
I made the last one and it wasn't the best, aside from the custom cover image which got mistaken by one anon as exotic gender flags, and so I was waiting for another anon to make the next one.
If no one makes a new thread by this evening I'll make the next edition but be forewarned it's probably also going to have too many chromosomes at birth. Also I've really not kept up with things since around Christmas since I wanted to put such things out of my mind for the season, so if I make it the OP will be information poor, which I don't like doing.

>>6374
I suppose we also need the thread because the upcoming change of US president is liable to cause a flurry of new happenings.
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As promised it's evening so I made the new thread. >>6402
I would HEAVILY suggest that you remake your draft and post it as the second post in that thread.
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>>6404
>as the second post in that thread.
All is lost as the webm fag had a bout of diarrhea there already. BO may as well delete this place to hide the shame.
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>>6417
JUST LIKE MAEK POST STRELOK!
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>>6419
difficult due to constant gag reflex
>>6454
>>6476
Public transportation gets a bad rap because only the lowest common denominator uses it over in burgerland, but in Asian countries that are ethnically homogenous public transportation is well developed and widely used, without the negative perception it has elsewhere.

Infrastructure in Wiemerica is bad all around.
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>>6381
Here's your chance to fix my mess. As per BO
>>6498
>If anyone want to submit a better op text intro I'll replace it with that retarded first one.

It's all in your hands now Strelok.
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>>6500
Plot twist: OP was the BO all along.
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>>6504
>August 2020: Trump Signs Executive Order That Will Effectively Ban Use Of TikTok In the U.S.
>Trump gets credited by supporters and critics alike for getting "tough on China". 
>January 2025: A law banning TikTok has been enacted in the US. ... We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office.
>Lots of zoomers pissed, key voting demographic in the coming years, Biden/Dems getting all the blame for the ban.
What is this 4D chess tactic called?
https://archive.is/Lzqif Anyone here give the Royal Tiger a go?
>>6481
>because only the lowest common denominator uses it over in burgerland
No it's because it takes 2-4x longer than driving in most burger cases, none of that changes if you get rid of the hoi polloi riding it.
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>>6481
>Infrastructure in Wiemerica is bad all around.
I've used the bus in a couple of american cities and it was pretty decent to downright great, aside from niggers.
The problem is >>6530 it takes 2-4x longer than driving because the vast majority of bus lines are main road straight lines rather than a specific route designed by urban engineers to reach the most visited locations relative to the people living in certain sectors. That design is basic stuff in most countries but like many other things the U.S. seems third-world in that regard, doesn't help the walking distances are also retarded, at least in the west coast, so reaching your stop doesn't mean you are close as you can actually walk a literal mile or a bit more to reach your actual place.
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>>6531
>and it was pretty decent to downright great
Sure, if you happen to be going from Town Hall to $tourist_attractions[0] it can be a pleasant experience. It's kinda stuck in a vicious cycle of
no one uses public transit -> no one cares -> can't fund it -> public transit sucks -> [repeat]
At the same time, because 'everyone' has a car the suburb/rural lifestyle seems mighty attractive compared to living in high rises.
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>>6532
>if you happen to be going from Town Hall to $tourist_attractions[0] it can be a pleasant experience
No, my experience was main road > small store in the middle of nowhere and alternate road > specific neighborhood's center, among others which were indeed tourist attractions which honestly most of them are in big cities.
>Town Hall
Chuck filled with niggers and methheads in the U.S., nobody sane goes there let alone pick a bus... in the west coast at least. You pick it near your hotel or room spot, or anywhere just to get back.
>vicious cycle of no one uses public transit -> no one cares -> can't fund it -> public transit sucks -> [repeat]
This is true at a certain extend, like i said i never found a single problem in terms of buses sucking or not being funded but few used it and it did take a while. Routes just suck, that's for sure, walking to a return stop or near your intended target inside a non-bus area is a pain in the bitch due to car-centric designs and retarded distances.

>the suburb/rural lifestyle seems mighty attractive compared to living in high rises due to cars
That is true but also it's soft crowd control IMO, living rural without a car is fucking hell, been there and it's so bad it hurts because you can't do anything. Even if you had money on hand you can't buy a car because there's nothing nearby and no way to reach it without walking literal dozens of miles in wilderness.
The rural way of living got crippled due to tech/apps services but these are not enough for an integral way of living and by that i mean doing the groceries for example because the Uber car either doesn't enter the place or needs to come from a city and then back again when you want to go back home with the bags, and THEN the fucking fee is more than the groceries themselves. Fuck people and car urbanism so much, back in the day you could walk to a nearby mom&pop store and buy basic shit normally.
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>>6533
>Routes just suck, that's for sure,
And it renders everything else moot. Last place there was a bus stop across the street basically and my work was a block away from a main hub station, that fucking 12 mile commute required 3 connections and about 1.5-2hrs each way _if_ all the busses showed up and you made the connection. A bicycle was faster, let alone driving.
Yes there are specific routes you can travel reasonably well but it's a very very limited set in America, it's just untenable as the default mode of transportation.
>literal dozens of miles in wilderness
>walk to a nearby mom&pop store and buy basic shit normally
Sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too. That was never the case in rural farming communities (maybe in some frontier towns?) but on farms/ranches everything is necessarily far away. The norm was (and is) that you need to plan ahead for a full season at least, casual trips to the grocery store weren't a thing (and really it only made sense in the summer farmer market season). You'd load up the horse and wagon with a quantity of supplies that would make Costco shoppers blush, and do that maybe a couple of times a year. Never mind "frontier living" where they'd stock up for a one way trip of a lifetime.
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>>6538
That he's too much of a dork to do a real Roman salute?
>>6538
>25% tax on Canadian and Mexican stuff now completely official, takes effect February 1st
>Gulf of Mexico is now Gulf of America and Mt. Denali is now Mt. McKinley for some reason, prompting new federal issues on all corresponding docs with those names
>Musk gives roman salute as head man for the department of efficiency, the DOGE
What kind of loonie pills did these fellas take, how can you do one of the most pointless renames around the very first day you boast about a new gov efficiency agency.
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>>6538
>ADL: It seems that @elonmusk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge.
>we appreciate that people are on edge.
>appreciate
I bet you do ADL, I bet you do.
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>>6584
Context? Is this from the Sharty Shooting?
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I never understand the chud meme "nothing ever happens"

stuff happens all the time
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>>6594
Probably what they are intending to say is "nothing ever changes", which is semi correct in that society, the world, reality, etc. are metastable. They resist change unless something truly catastrophic or revolutionary happens.
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>>6595
This. It also originated as a hardline counter to the happeningfags who talked as if every world event was the imminent Armageddon.
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>Sharty Shooting
....What?
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>>6598
Some black kid shot up his highschool and left behind a manifesto describing himself as a "radical niggercel" and had soyjak pics posted all through the document.
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>fucking 12 mile commute required 3 connections and about 1.5-2hrs each way if all the buses showed up
Yeah my experience was something similar when i wanted to go from a known hotel to the second biggest mall in an Arizona city. 
For those who don't follow us, pic related is how it goes for modern bus routes, you pick one along a main road and then another to a certain smaller road or sector, if you want to jump to another small sector somewhere else it means you need to pick the small back, then ride the main road and then pick the other small one; 3 fucking buses and it is normal, this system is designed to cover roads but not places.

This is unlike a radial hub with routes designed for covering most visited places and residential areas so you can take 2 buses max the vast majority of cases and all of them go through the
 same hub while also sometimes sharing the same target places, thus many zones like schools, factories and the sort get 2 to 3 routes. Seems hard to find examples so i invented one to show what i mean, the obvious con of this system is that the route laps take way longer than normally and you need skilled drivers to both memorize where they are going and drive inside neighborhoods with sometimes only one lane and tons of kids running around in front of your motorized hunk of steel at 40 mph. 
Also designing these for max efficiency takes a team of urban designers and engineers with a bunch of field studies to find the common denominator among the populace in the sector you want to service.
>it's just untenable as the default mode of transportation.
American urbanism makes it hard to pull because the reasonable doubt of "just walk a bit if the bus is not close bro" goes straight out of the window once you see the retarded distances in the main roads, at least in my case in the Southwest and Commiefornia. Also urban planning is non-existent due to heavy disparity in population movement and culture to begin with

>Sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too.
What do you mean? it's completely normal in
>maybe in some frontier towns?
Oh well you got me, not really frontier but some towns like Buckeye in Arizona do have old routes still functioning and going all around the small old timey downtown, a good chunk of the original town can still be visited via bus only, problem is many of the factories are now in the outskirts and there's no buses there so shit's fucked again.
>but on farms/ranches everything is necessarily far away.
I agree for the agricultural reasons you mention but a trailer park, a small town dedicated to small services and the such should not be an open-air prison like currently designed.
>Never mind "frontier living" where they'd stock up for a one way trip of a lifetime.
Frontier town circuits were known specifically for the ration culture, the stock up was for dry stuff like beef/horse jerky and grains but constant places on the road served as the veggies and water rations, that's initially how the chinamen got out of the mining/railroad game because of their knowledge in growing greens in little space and maintenance. Residents in said places would either wait for someone to pass and unload their products or create their own, houses were far between each other but the trading posts were compact as fuck, everyone was there at some point of the day.
The stucking up of a lifetime happened previous to the winter or if a family needed to settle and work fast, usually when they had to build the stead at first.

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Russia to Unveil Latest AK-12K and AK-12SK Assault Rifles
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>The Kalashnikov group will showcase its two latest models of assault rifles, the AK-12K and AK-12SK, at the upcoming IDEX 2025 International Defense Exhibition, which will be held from February 17 to 21 in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates. These two models from the AK-12 series, designed to use the 5.45x39 mm cartridge, will be shown to the public for the first time, marking a turning point in the development of the company's lightweight firearms. Army Recognition will be on-site to provide the latest news from this highly anticipated exhibition.
>The AK-12K and AK-12SK are designed to enhance the firepower of modern infantry by offering improved technical, ergonomic, and operational characteristics suited to the demands of contemporary combat. These rifles have been specifically developed to effectively engage enemy personnel, offering great flexibility thanks to their ability to fire a variety of 5.45 mm cartridges. These include the standard 7N6 bullet, the high-penetration 7N10 bullet, as well as the tracer rounds 7T3 and 7T3M, allowing the weapons to adapt to different combat environments.
>Both rifles are equipped with 30-round magazines and can be fitted with a low-noise shooting device (LSD) weighing no more than 0.8 kg. This feature makes the AK-12K and AK-12SK particularly suitable for covert operations where noise reduction is crucial.
>The AK-12K, weighing a maximum of 3.4 kg without the magazine, belt, or accessories, has been designed to offer great versatility in the field while maintaining a robust and reliable structure. In combat position, its length reaches 810 mm, providing a good grip while offering increased range and accuracy. However, when folded, the AK-12K measures only 570 mm, making it easier to transport in confined spaces or during operations requiring discretion. The barrel of the AK-12K measures 290 ± 20 mm, providing a balance between maneuverability and ballistic performance, meeting the demands of modern missions.
>On the other hand, the AK-12SK, the more compact version of the AK-12K, weighs a bit less, at 3.2 kg without accessories. Its smaller design makes it even more maneuverable, with a length of 750 mm in combat position, offering an easier grip for soldiers in close-quarters tactical environments. When folded, the AK-12SK measures only 500 mm, making it particularly suitable for operations in confined spaces such as urban areas or armored vehicles. The barrel of the AK-12SK is slightly shorter, measuring 228 ± 20 mm, improving its compactness while maintaining high shooting efficiency for mid-range engagements. This reduction in barrel size helps optimize the weapon's ergonomics and portability without sacrificing operational performance.
>These new assault rifles are expected to generate significant interest among armed forces and law enforcement units worldwide, combining Kalashnikov's legendary reliability with cutting-edge features that meet the needs of modern combat. The AK-12K and AK-12SK will be available for detailed demonstrations during IDEX 2025, where they will undoubtedly attract the attention of defense experts and international military professionals.

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It's bad. Six on the plane but probably a lot more on the ground.

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>>6769
>that kind of charter planes
American Eagle Flight 5342 wasn't chartered it's a regular ass bus route between ICT and DCA. From what I'm reading so far the heli seems to be 100% at fault here, pilot was probably looking out for the wrong plane and flying way higher than he should've been.
>>6789
A second plane crash with no survivors, was Bane one of Biden's DEI hires?
>It's bad.
Full of fuel and hit a mall/parking lot on Fri evening, doubleplusungood for real.

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It'll be a long time before we have casualty counts.

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>>6793
I like how these videos always have such a low quality that everything is a blurry mess.

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>>6791
>it's a regular ass bus route 
Sorry about that, seemed pretty small for a bus route but makes sense due to the company.
>heli seems to be 100% at fault here
They kept spinning it against the plane but the video shows the heli just going to the middle of the landing path.

>Full of fuel and hit a mall/parking lot on Fri evening
Sweet Jesus, bombastic footage but seems the parking lot was full-size american so only cars got smashed, supposedly a piece of chair went straight into a window of the mall, got inside and knocked some dude eating peacefully at a table. Due to the fuel it also seems to have gotten into some houses nearby so collaterals got extensive (no shit).
Info says it was a medical transport like anon said but the twist here is that it was going to Mexico hence being full of fuel, was carrying a female patient, supposedly a minor, and had an adult female companion. They were coming from completing a treatment in Philadelphia, that's like an Appalachian going to Switzerland for treatment, must've been people with lotsa money.

So a richfag mexican girl that potentially got rid of cancer and her grandma got decimated in a rocketing Learjet going head-on into a mall on a friday night. And 2 days ago we got a bunch of russian skating instructors getting bodied by a military helicopter over a river near the airport. That's some nasty coincidences in terms of nationalities and timing regarding Musk going at the FAA.

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>>6793
>Allahu Ackbar!
Come on now, that guy was begging to get van'd or slapped by someone nearby. The other language i can't recognize, sounds like portuguese but not sure, perhaps bias of another video. Also governor is a jew and the mayor is a sheboon, neighborhood isn't what it used to be lol

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What would happen if a plane crashed into an ATC? Would it disrupt coordination and potentially cause more accidents? Or is the system designed to mitigate problems in such scenarios?
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>>6813
>What would happen if a plane crashed into an ATC? 
If you meant ATCT (air traffic control tower) it would certainly shut down the airport in question. Any planes already (before crash) cleared for landing/takeoff should be able to do so safely sans tower.
>Or is the system designed to mitigate problems in such scenarios?
It is, airport towers are only the 'tip of the iceberg' so to speak. There's a separate Terminal Radar Approach Control (TRACON) station dealing incoming planes, as the name implies they work off of radar screens (planes will be too far to see anyway) and usually in a separate building.
They'll certainly be telling everyone to fuck off somewhere. Planes flying in the middle of nowhere will be talking to Air Route Traffic Control Centers (ARTCC), they cover areas spanning several states and can cover for adjacent regions too.
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>Staffers of the U.S. Agency for International Development were instructed to stay out of the agency’s Washington headquarters, and officers blocked the lawmakers from entering the lobby Monday, after Musk announced President Donald Trump had agreed with him to shut the agency.
It's kind of an open secret that USAID has some cough overlap with US intelligence community, wouldn't surprise me if twiddledee and twiddledum end up ruffling too many feathers with their initiatives. It's hilarious because those two being a executive manger types from private sector want measurable, observable results meanwhile _these results_ are clandestine intentionally.
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It seems that after pausing the tariffs against Mexico, for a month, the U.S. has flown a RC135V reconnaissance airplane a day later over the Californian peninsula in Mexico, rounding up the entire area and supposedly returning to Nebraska if a text was correct.
While no doubt the U.S. has the entire neighbor nation mapped out 10 times this is seemingly the first time it has done it in public since the 70's, and first time since the Clinton years it has flown any kind of military plane without the coordination of the mexicans.
While influencers seem to be celebrating the fact that the U.S. perhaps is checking on cartel signals and stuff some others in Mexico are thinking it's about tracking chinese commercials vessels in the recent covert war the U.S. has against chinamen interests, particularly when mexican authorities raided chinese-owned businesses a day after a Trump call on the presidency shortly before Christmas. 

Some others in the cartelsphere or cartel culture are reminding that U.S. aerial "help" usually means lack of coordination and valid intelligence data that leads to collateral damage and few actual hits all over the world in open conflicts, folk legend still talks about a Clinton-era operation where an undisclosed airplane flew very shortly before a block in a northern city exploded and ended killing dozens of civilians while a notorious cartel leader's safe house was a couple of blocks away; this event is extensively ignored and memory-holed (Caborcazo) but there's mentions of it in that said niche culture via songs.
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>>6858
Looks like the CIA is going to clean house.
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>>6858
>has flown any kind of military plane without the coordination of the mexicans.
Are you saying US did it w/o permission? I doubt that. The full size plane was there for public display "we're watching".
> folk legend still talks about a Clinton-era operation
That was all before the era of drones, I'm curious to see how this area will evolve (especially with all the field experience from Ukraine).
>>6860
>Looks like the CIA is going to clean house.
The white house?
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>>6861
Only if the white house goes against israel.
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Honestly, given the history of the U.S. and cartels, perhaps they are going to place a new figurehead to continue the traffic because the civil war on the Sinaloa Cartel has heavily disrupted the drug flow into the western and northern sector of the U.S., and current heads are not particularly well-known for their hide-n-seek skills as even journalists and some influencers know where they are at times.
Something similar happened when the Guadalajara Cartel was being uppity and the DEA infiltrated them, the cartels sniffed them out and the FBI put a couple in jail anyways but had to free one of them again a couple of years later for undisclosed reasons to act as a figurehead and control an in-fight they had which ended up creating the Sinaloa Cartel itself. Also that one time the Sons of El Chapo had a fight with their cousins controlling the Arizona border and the U.S. had to free for undisclosed reasons the brother of a famous cartel leader who controlled that same area a decade ago so he could take charge of the power void.

Americans on average are deeply unaware that cartels work under the license of U.S. authorities, if they stray too far they get replaced and everything goes on. Right now there's the Sinaloa Cartel civil war with one of the branches being supported by the Singapore/Chinese interests and the other branch being against the U.S.'s accords. 
Then there's the Gulf Cartel which also has a small civil war going on but that's relatively mild compared to the others, the only problem they have supposedly is people who came or lived in the U.S. as in previous experience they all evolve into spies who were near Fort Benning/Moore, ritual murderers and/or deranged psychos.

tl;dr The spice will keep flowing, it's just going to be made by a different CEO. MAGApedes are retarded if they think any cartel will stop from existing inside Mexico, but perhaps they will go underground inside the USA territories.

>>6861
>Are you saying US did it w/o permission?
No, i am implying it was a power move, like you well said "a public display of we're watching" because the local government seems to not have made a statement either on international media nor national AFAIK after being asked, which they usually do like a day ago when they said they would send troops to the border. And to be fair the air force would've done it even if the mexicans would've not granted permission, i think they did not even notice because that would make the comms inside the cartels go mute for a couple of days due to the high-level of insiders.
>I'm curious to see how this area will evolve
Some days ago the Gulf Cartel released a video update on their civil war progression and it seems the main branch, the ones who had been caught on tape with stuff that was supposed to go to Ukraine, are using drones to eliminate targets in rural blockades. 
So far the only "terrorist" attacks (civilians, highly-disruptive warning actions) have been from cartels down in the south of the country, if they really start cracking down on the cartels up north then shit will certainly hit new levels of funny, particularly because many southwest cities are filled to the brim with those guys and doing t-shenanigans on Walmarts will probably start to happen if they get desperate enough, or droning official cars if you get my drift BUT i doubt it as they are scarce and the cartels always reach agreements with authorities sooner or later.
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Now it looks like there's 3 Navy ships going south the Californian peninsula but the mexican authorities said they are on international waters and have been often seen there anyways, but most people are getting paranoid now and the chinaman blockade theory is being talked a bit more now.
Supposedly it's the USS Gov Vessel, USNS Henry J. Kaiser and a third unidentified one at first but which ended up being the USS Nimitz, the first two are cargo and replenishment ships but the last one is a carrier. 

Another power move but this might prompt the cartels, if they are still that eccentric like years ago, to study houthis, the iraqi "sea-skimming business jet with exocets" and the Millenium Challenge's "Termit-Styx fishing boats" like what happened when they had to contact Taliban members so they could teach dudes how to make caves for storage and use RPGs against federal police helicopters which did bring results later on, namely the 2019 Battle of Culiacan and the Francisco Blake incident.
Obviously this is speculation based on historical events and not instructions nor suggestions, why would i want that mr. smith haha
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>>6882
I will laugh my ass off if a carrier involved in multiple world conflicts without so much as a scratch gets taken out of action by a bunch of coked-up narcos.
>>6864
>And to be fair the air force would've done it even if the mexicans would've not granted permission
This is almost certainly the case, but based on the timing I'd guess this was related to Trump's phone call with the Mexican president about tariffs/border shenanigans. "We're going to send a surveillance plane around the peninsula." "Okay, sure." This isn't Russia/NATO cat and mouse games where the other side has to scramble jets to save face.
>>6882
>they had to contact Taliban members
now, cue a bunch of hohol drone veterans who are assblasted over missed US promises
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>>6900
>cue a bunch of hohol drone veterans who are assblasted
I mean the Gulf Cartel did supposedly contact some Donbass vets from the ukrie refugee wave in Monterrey but they purportedly refused due to fatigue so they supposedly left them alone. Many of those fellas jumped to Texas AFAIK.
>the other side has to scramble jets to save face
I agree but even if their air force wanted to do something in this case the closest thing to that area in terms of military planes are a bunch of overwing Cessnas and 50yo Pilatus, and not many because the cartels are known to have taken down two Pilatus AFAIK, hence why the continuing rumor that the Sinaloa Cartel have Stingers or something similar in their possession. 
Even if they wanted to scramble something it would've been a grey Cessna and that's just hilarious, unironically El Salvador and Honduras have a bigger air force in terms of combat. There's nothing to scramble.
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>>6937
>10 days ago you were asking for advice on where to start reading Fantasic 4. Legit stfu
Mega Kek. What is that reddit even about? Trump supporters? Obama-loving Soycialists?
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>>6937
Appears to be centrist gooners. The front page description is like
>Our government is taken over by oligarchs and we are all going to be enslaved if we don't do something! No talk of violence tho guys thats le bad :^)
>>6913
>refused due to fatigue
but not in principle?
>a bunch of overwing Cessnas and 50yo Pilatus
ffs you're not even exaggerating. Cessna 182's top speed is 150kts and VNE is 175kts, I couldn't find much on Boeing C-135s but similar airliners have stall 150-175kts, an intercept seems down right impossible!
>>6939
>What is that reddit even about?
It's cope.

1. Soap box.
2. Ballot box.
3. Jury box.
4. AmmoTampon box.
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>but not in principle?
Don't know for sure but i suppose the money was good, the "news" aka cartel second-account stories posted on the internet by journalists paid by them say the ukrie vet refugees were more busy settling in with their families and trying to jump border than be mercenaries, it makes sense but it's still surprising none accepted if the rumor is true, which i suppose can be because there were a bunch of refugees in that city and cartel contact is pretty casual and direct to the point if you have the credentials; Problem is getting out.
>ffs
The funny thing about the only 8 or so jets (5 that work), F5's, that the air force has is that they are used exclusively to intimidate off-the-grid commie peasants near the Guatemala border. The only combat use they had was when they bombed the said peasants when they protested against NAFTA back in 1994.
No joke if some rogue figure like Neal Ellis were to appear around it would take a long time for the gov to neutralize it, the only problem with said figure would be finding supplies for his airwolf.
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If elon and trump don't get murdered, I guess they didn't dig enough or it was all part of the plan.
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This is when reformers panicking at the stagnation of the system come to collision with bureaucratic inertia and ingrained corruption.
I believe historically the odds are on the side latter.
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>>6995
>it's only about the bidup era
And I thought he would casually repeal the NFA with a random executive order after reading the first few sentences.
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>>7019
DOGE BTFO ATF? A man can dream.
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>>7028
He has the authority to abolish the ATF. He does not have the authority to unilaterally appeal the NFA
He doesn't have any interest in doing either

>>7052
Oi oi, 'ave you got a loicense for tha-
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>>7055
>appeal
repeal
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>>7057
I CAN ONLY GET SO HARD
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Sanctions on South Africa
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>>7058
temper yourself
USA is in an isolation phase but at the same time strong interventionism sans armed invasion, i am not getting it, if anything this is just vexxing tons of groups that might lead to ideological discontent and we all know what that leads to: Excuses for false flags.
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>>7068
> Excuses for false flags
they got a bit bored expect people blown up on easter or something
>>7068
>i am not getting it
I'm not sure anybody knows what Trump is trying to accomplishing. Including Trump.
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Does this mean there's gonna be a Commercial Diving boom?
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>>7073
>Including Trump.
Give him a break, he's kinda old to be VP. It's OK though, President Musk is on top of it, getting things done.
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>a Commercial Diving boom?
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It's good to see Trump is finally entering his Dark Elf phase. 
My first thought when I heard they were doing this is that they have finally smartened up and are doing subtle radicalization. Like if Trump had done this 8 years ago they would have made a big show about "Never surrendering to the racist ursurper!" #RESISTANCE but now it looks like they're opting for let him have enough rope to hang himself method. They could have just done nothing at all without any comment but instead they decided to slap this sticker up on the wall so that it will gnaw lightly at everyone that's left of center.
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Here in Sweden we just had our first school shooting.
A mentally ill loner with some hunting rifles killed 11 people.
So now the state's calm and measured response is to ban AR-15s and make life worse for hunters and sport shooters.

I shouldn't be surprised about the America cultural imperialism, but I sure didn't expect the alleged "hunting friendly" parties to be this retarded.
Guess I was the most retarded all along.
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>>7155
Wasn't that racially motivated? Either way he should have used explosives since those are government approved.
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>>7156
Or just some poison gas.
>>7156
>Wasn't that racially motivated? 
Nothing that proves it yet, the only one's claiming racism is some media channels.
As of right now, it looks like most of the victims worked with social services.
The motive that has been presented right now is his anger at his welfare being revoked.
>>7155
Honestly it's the easiest way to disarm people, near my area when the state congress was talking about legalizing self-defense in your own house with guns two days later a teenager picked his dad's gun and killed a teacher and some kid.
Dad had been released from an U.S. jail months before for undisclosed reasons, was a cop-turned-smuggler and the gun had a suppressor which are very hard to see even for cartels. Congress halted the debate out of respect and nothing happened, also was the first school shooting in 100 something years in the state, last time it happened people were on horses and you had to cock the hammer to shoot.
Never doubt glowops, and even if it happens naturally they will glow it up.
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Seems the recent surveillance in the U.S. wasn't all show as a high profile thing just happened, the infamous euro business operator and fugitive Marco Ebben, who worked for the Mayo faction of the Sinaloa Cartel (aka the old guard) got hit in a somewhat luxurious neighborhood in the middle of a major shithole of a city in the south of Mexico.
The 33yo dutch smuggler had already faked his death last year, somewhat successfully under the pretense he died in combat at the cartel's civil war, with only a specialized javert-tier journalist accurately thinking otherwise. A highly-educated polyglot, son of a supposedly notorious kingpin in Netherlands, was known for his risky maneuvers in Russia and Turkey due to a book published around 2019 explaining the drug underworld in the Holland area, with another story being smuggling dope from Brazil to Netherlands via party pinata cargo.

Surviving two hits in Europe and Turkey, along with faking his death, made him famous but most common folk locally heard of him due to a couple of songs mentioning an euro agent gone rogue/euro lawyer who now worked closing deals in Australia and the old continent. The agent part is dubious but after all he got hit after american forces showed signs of attention, along with his body having credentials from the DEA which are most probably fake to jump over local authorities but one wonders if he actually was an old euro glow in the dirt, or maybe he just said tall stories in parties and a songwriter took them literally.

The funny thing here is that Sinaloa Cartel's old guard is the one mostly loyal to U.S. authorities in that area, with the new guard being propped by chinese money and the Jalisco New Gen being wild overall, Gulf Cartel being funded directly by the U.S. makes them the most direct group but they are far away in terms of proximity. This either means the U.S. picked a high-profile figure to snitch even if it was an "ally", the old guard has a very high-level snitch which will mean rampantly erratic and paranoid maneuvers in the head figures, or local hitmen got the job from someone else not known and probably not local groups because killing an outside operator that high means problems.
Man got gifted 15 rounds of 7.62x39mm for St. Valentines, the supposed aggressors were caught minutes later as the mexican marines were on the scene because, supposedly, they were already on their way to capture him. One of the hitmen shouted lies in the press and got carried out so the mystery deepens, cartel members never talk back in those situations because they often get backhanded deals to follow a narrative so this seems hasty and overall a mess... one thing for sure is that the national navy has a massive snitch (inside or the U.S. tipped several contacts) because if that's true they got screwed out of a major PR event, if they didn't kill him in the first place and blamed some local lowlifes. 

What surprises me is that Ebben hid in one of the regions with almost no tall blonde white guy roams around, an interesting choice. Violence will certainly escalate, mostly internally, also confirms again something that silly songs say which means perhaps some other stories are somewhat true, like an old ex-Taliban serving as a very high-level bodyguard or a small group of Kaibiles serving as permanent instructors for mid-level cartel members.
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>Ebben
Fug :D
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>Mayo faction
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>>7180
The SP1 is such a clean looking gun. I love that thing.
>>7185
I take the approach that all of the wild legends have a kernel of truth. Especially seeing as enormous amounts of money tend to attract professional killers the world over.
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>>7185
>Ebben
>Mayo faction 
>dutch hollandaise sauce?
Why does this read like trollinga lazy spy novel?
>a specialized javert-tier journalist
what is?
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>>7191
>Mayo
As in the Mayo/Yoreme native american people which the head honcho kingpin belonged to, brother tribe to the Yaqui/Hiaki/Yoeme natives... aka all injuns known for being the last ones resisting the gov, some still do with some Amish-tier antics minus being productive about it.
Obviously not everyone knows that seemingly easy-to-decipher info (if you are from the area) but it does surprise me sometimes how oblivious some authorities are regarding that nickname, Mayo also means the month of May and it is not uncommon to read shit like "Zambada, nicknamed Mayo despite being born on January..."
>what is?
wat, by Javert i meant a description for someone known for their very persistent investigative nature, in this case a certain John van den Heuvel but reading more into his character he seems like a meme, with all due respect, so i may take that Javert thing back but he did nail down some specifics of the context pretty well.

>>7190
>I take the approach that all of the wild legends have a kernel of truth
Did you know the Power Rangers did WTC?
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>>7193
Stupid question but are Mayo same people as Mayans?
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>>7194
Yes just lighter skin and a bit of tang about them.
>>7194
No, Maya are from the Yucatan area. Mayo are from the Sonora area.
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>>7194
Not a stupid question at all, but no, Mayo are a desert and mountain travelling sedentary sub-group of the cultural umbrella name Cahitans and probably descended from the Mogollon people, some say Anasazi but maybe not due to lack of common features. Mayo call themselves Yoreme/Yoeme which either means "the people" or "those who respect (the old ways)" depending on who do you believe, Mayo means in their language "dudes by the river".
The Mogollon are probably descended from the Lake Cochise people, an ancient lake that went dry and these fellas are descended from the Desert sub-group of the Archaic era which very probably have their origin in the Clovis culture.
All these fellas have their cultural region in Arizona, Southern California, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Sonora, Sinaloa and Chihuahua.

Mayans are modern cultural umbrella term for the jungle astronomy wizards in Mesoamerica but so far investigators haven't found solid proof they distinguished between each other apart from the slaves so the name stuck, they are descendants of the Olmec which isn't their name either but it stuck too, Olmecs are the name of the guys who lived in the ruins 1000 years later.
Nowadays we still don't know where these Olmec Ancestor guys came from hence the whole mystery and stories about their artsy artifacts they left behind, the pervasive myth that they are from Africa came from a rich city slicker fond of archeology seeing one of the heads the euros archeologists unearthed and being impressed by the skill, but wondering about the unorthodox depiction of the face and its ethnicity, akin to saying nowadays "how impressive but seems funny, looks like a nigger" and it stuck too. DNA has been done to some remains and they only proved they were ancestors of the Mayan wizards, Mexican authorities are very anal about DNA tests because the whole cultural image of the country depends on being local, some art experts argue that a couple of Olmec artifacts are too damn chinese to be a coincidence, specifically the Liangzhu era which does fit in the chronology.
These guys have their cultural region in the southern half of the Gulf of Mex- America like Tabasco and Campeche, Yucatan peninsula, Chiapas, Belize, Peten and Quiche.

tl;dr No, Mayo and Maya aren't related, genetically speaking they are at the very least 2000 years apart IF the Olmec Ancestors came from the Lake Cochise, which they probably didn't so maybe 4000 to 5000 years apart from the Archaic days.

>>7196
This, in more american terms this means the Mayo are neighbors of Arizona (kinda) and the Maya are neighbors of Guatemala, or the original Cancun natives.
Did the guy making his own custom type of shotgun slugs ever make it here?
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>Europe announcing sudden re-armament to support Ukraine/make face against Russia
>Zelensky aimed to be forcefully replaced
>USA in constant decline
>Syria falling and Turkey/Israel portioning it
>Pope in critical condition
Vanga and Irlmaier pls stop
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>>7391
I'm sorry anon but the ride does NOT stop until the very end.
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The Russia X Ukraine thread has once again reached completion. In order to not have an unfortunate repeat of the last time I would implore one of you who isn't me to please make the next fucking thread.
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Romania shenanigans.
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>>7437
Tomorrow I have family coming over not sure if I can this week. If not Monday.
>25% tariffs on Mexico are a go in the next weeks, Canada on hold
>25% tariffs on Europe's industrial sector is a go, particularly cars, to promote local stuff
>100% tariffs on chinamen hybrid cars
>50% in the bag, presumably, of what is left from Ukraine's mineral resources to be signed soon
>Groceries spiked to 5%, beef starting to rocket now that americans realize it's mostly argentinian and mexican exports with a Texas tag
>AP and Reuters banned from presidential media
>US military personnel in joint-euro bases starting to scale back modestly but decisively
>Syria in control and Irak finally decided to collaborate with the Turkey pipeline plan that only needed Syria to be destabilized tamed  freedomized liberated democratized to continue
To be fair this really feels like a businessman known for his dynamic, cutthroat decisions took the helm so i cannot be surprised, just puzzled on what's the next step.
>>7451
>chinamen
Excuse me, "chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature. "Asian-American", please.
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>AP and Reuters banned from presidential media
Kek/10.
>25% tariffs on Europe's industrial sector is a go, particularly cars, to promote local stuff
Good.
>US military personnel in joint-euro bases starting to scale back modestly but decisively
Good.
>>7452
*Illegitimate Chinx
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>>7451
>just puzzled on what's the next step.
Tactically or strategically? Because I know the next strategic step is continuing to seduce the nations into becoming slaves to the USA so that Trump might complete his part in helping to build the Greater Israel New Babylon project.
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>>7453
>Promoting US-made cars is good
They need to fix the cars and fan down the prices first, 40k for a fleet-trim F150 is retarded.
>>7452
>Asian-American
What kind of asian are we talking about
>>7454
>New Babylon project
Uhm, cool it with the anti-semitism please, Neo-Babylon was known for its rampant anti-semite slavery, they fawhced them to build a damn towuh fawh G-d's sake! 8-hour shifts!
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Georgescu supporters in Romania
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>>7451
>>50% in the bag, presumably, of what is left from Ukraine's mineral resources to be signed soon
>, presumably, 
>presumably
Good save, good save.
>>7442
>>7547
>Romania
tl;dr? dr=dunno romanian
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>>7549
>tl;dr
>go for president in romania
>say you are anti EU
>the day to put your name in the ballet or whatever you call it, get arrested by the police
>say to the cameras that its the EU and the globalist trying to put him in jail
>huge protest
>get even more support
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>>7651
Nice photo-op, even got canadian to do the work.
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Romania again
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>Armenia cedes the land to Azerbaijan and are about to finish the border limits dispute after 30 years out of nowhere, agreeing to meet soon
>Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan higher ups meet and sign a formal deal to end the border limits dispute after 30 years
>Both on the same day
>Trump refuses to discard annexing Greenland minutes after meeting with NATO secretary general Rutte
>Also orders "plans" (aka war games/idea storming) on how to land hundreds of troops into the Panama Canal via Colombia air base
>On the same day too
I am not liking this, one side seems to be preparing and amending relations between its own neighbors ASAP for something bigger, the other side is openly talking about living in someone else's neutral couch forcefully in a way not seen since Reagan.
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>>7927
Someone got the Sewers bad ending in SWAT 3 i see
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>>7936
If he doesn't conquer greenland and panama to purge all its natives to replace them by poo-in-the-loo I would be surprised.
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>>7938
The british already did a number in the caribbeans, particularly in the Guyana, with the pooloos being a biohazard. Can't imagine Greenland being controlled by dravidians using it as a Nepalese open-air toilet.
Panama already is a groid zone full of foreigners, can't get any worse other than taking away all the accounting and banking jobs.
What seems hilarious is that invading Panama nulls its contract status as the Canal is in fact a two-country property between US and Panama, if that breaks then Panama is open to request help from China and/or the international community due to its official neutral status. It's a very light, junior form of a Suez Crisis without even a Nasser figure in this case to have a good counterpoint.
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>>7938
I'm honestly beginning to wonder if age is finally getting the better of Trump. These are some pretty stupid takes.
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Got distracted with a power outage that made me lose a bunch of writing i was doing so friendly reminder to SAVE RIGHT NOW whatever work you have atm. Also because yesterday it seems the american gov released the first part of some of those fabled "spooky" JFK files Trump didn't want to release the first time. For some reason there's been heavy mobilization in Langley due to a small armed threat happening shortly after this happened. 

Lurked in bad places that some of you might suspect, also reading some papers after making the horrid mistake of downloading them from a .gov website myself without checking the URL first these seem to be the things i thought were interesting and confirmed, but ultimately nothing new for the initiated sans a few oddities:
>CIA already knew Lee Harvey Oswald, monitored him and his ideological shenanigans but chose to do nothing nor warn the FBI. Hard confirmation Oswald's monitor was a jewish operative named Reuben Efron, who immigrated to the U.S. from Lithuania and then emigrated later to Israel
>Nobody could find anything about Oswald being KGB, just that he was diligent in getting into the USSR
>KGB files declassified much later and reviewed mention the soviets had a file on Lee Harvey Oswald, they constantly shadowed him and noted his lack of marksmanship at a range and his russian wife who permanently nagged him
>U.S. agencies hardcore confirming some assets in Mexico, with some important names and surnames when they checked the soviet embassy, Oswald visits there and nearby assets in said country's capital
>CIA mex station targeted an office lady secretary in Mexico City, after finding no clear weaknesses in her person the overseeing agent suggested them getting her some blue-eyed blonde in her bed. The guy later found out he and Langley itself did not know exactly why she was targeted, station did not pitch for her support or anything, implying the targeting was implemented "just because"
>U.S. Chamber of Commerce executive directors overseas all glow bright in the dark since the mid-50's
>Multiple reports of the jewish mob and Israeli (Secret) Intelligence Service presence in Cuba by an assorted group of people, including both pro and anti-castro cubans. The former was widely known even in its heyday but the latter is interesting
>Oswald had contact with a CIA-funded anti-Castro group called the Student's Revolutionary Directorate (DRE), with a HQ in Miami but contacted in New Orleans
>Palestinian official cables blamed Israel/Zionists shortly after the assassination (lol), at leasy one saudi agent was aware of the Israeli meddling
>CIA Cointelpro chief leader James Angleton, a jew-mexican born in the U.S. who became known in service for using the italian mob in WWII, is often mentioned as being unsupervised/free in his labors for 20 years (50's to early 70's) due to a loophole in internal hierarchy until Nixon fixed it shortly before the Watergate scandal; Angleton was in charge of checking and cooperating in bringing intel for the JFK investigations, was also chief assistant in directing efforts to help the Israeli nuclear program. Basically Henry Kissinger 1.0, a long-sought paper got declassified here but quite redacted, guy practically didn't answer anything straight-forward
>French Dassault made and delivered a complex surface2surface warhead delivery system for Israel in the mid-60's, implied to be of nuclear nature and amounting 250 missiles, range of 300 miles. Israel wanted U.S. guidance systems ASAP around the same dates, probably got one
>A polish chauffeur dude called official authorities in Australia and warned them of a hit planned against JFK around late 1962, saying soviet authorities had put a 100k dollar hit on the president and were sending hundreds of agents to support segregationist governor Ross Barnett. Later in the 70's the CIA administration tried hard to have this tidbit remain classified for reasons we can suspect are related to the nigger unrest at that moment (Ol Ross Riots & Black Panthers) and because it's so far out
>WTC 7 tower that magically fell on 9/11 had a CIA front base office, which was already previously known for being a base of recruitment and debriefing for U.N. diplomats, also seems to have had a cache of relevant JFK that were lost in the attacks

Ideas and clues flung around:
<Due to the names of some cuban individuals some people theorize they were Meyer Lanksy's men more than staunch communist locals
<A gov project code is mentioned but previously was only seen in the suspiciously bogus, 90's-era Majestic-12 (and its counter, the 54/12 group) papers, implying a sort of credibility in the latter in terms of its post-70's activities which in turn implies heavy duty shit
<A particularity of business fronts ran by CIA and assorted glownegroes is that they are very, very often exempt from tax for no reason or using social causes as justification
>CIA had bugged almost every embassy in the US and western Europe in the 80's
<A new appearance of a KGB glow operative (code)named Nosenko rofl, related to an event in which they infiltrated a maid into an embassy to trace the activities of a man but the targeted individual was good at OpSec with his work-related stuff, was ultimately careless with his own stuff and got caught having an affair with an employee
<Said KGB operative was also known in one instance of co-opting a foreign british agent with butt sex with two of his russian stud KGB agents, then snitched to the british services that said agent was a homo 
<Later defected to the U.S. under the help of Angleton who then held him in solitary and tortured the guy for 4 years thinking he was a triple agent because another defector, Golitsyn who was a phony agent and perhaps KGB cointelpro himself, said so
<CIA confirmed for having financially supported, partially we might assume and among others, Peru's Shining Path at election cycles and in its early stages along with labor unions in Italy and France, among other small leftists in other euro countries like Belgium and Greece.
<CIA heavily funded the brazilian anti-Goulart movement in the military from the get-go in pro to defend the exports and industrial assets, while it was widely known that the U.S. quickly supported the coup in 1964 there's the official implication they planned it from the very beginning

It's been entertaining so i might post something else if i find it, these all are a bit more of an /x/ thing so apologies
It probably was the jews all along.
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I am tired, read hours of endless trash with a few drops of decent value here and there but it became sparser the more i continued:

>CIA station in Paris, with the Special Activities Division, was at some point inside a palace owned by the Rothschilds even when the CIA themselves feared it was bugged, so the reunions were held in the vast gardens
>The Man from behind the Curtain, Nosenko the Pimp, was given an all-expenses paid trip to Miami after his torture confinement as an apology for the seemingly unexplained reasons for his continued imprisonment. Officially it's known he requested the services of prostitutes there twice under permission
>The infamous Nix tape is hard confirmed again, with the FBI handling it early on after Nix sold it for 5000 bucks. It was soon classified, then declassified in 1978 for further inspection and then "returned to the Nix family" which they always claimed otherwise. Currently lost, notable for showing the Grassy Knoll when the assassination happened
>Hard confirmation that George Bush Sr. was a CIA operative around November 1963 per inquire in a 1998/2000 assassination record
>Lee Harvey was a man of the world
>Somehow the Swedish nobility knew JFK was going to hit soon enough shortly before the fact
>Not very subtle implication that all mail brides from the USSR/Warsaw territories around the 50's and 60's had to be screened and approved before travelling abroad, so technically all of them could've been either informants or spies but not much is known how many went forward with it or how detailed they were
>CIA program PROHO to detect homosexuals who might've been recruited by the KGB's homosexual squads
>CIA attempted to cause a small famine in Cuba as a sabotage operation
>CIA explicitly looked into inventing any kind of pretext to invade Cuba in a paper around March 1963, 
>JFK Jr. had serious beef with Sen. Joe Biden for undisclosed reasons, the former send a short but damning letter to the latter around 1994

I might've skipped something but i don't want to gaze at the abysm that long
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It was the jews.
I am absolutely astonished that the JFK assassination files became the kike nuke  files.
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>>8036
It seems Angleton/CIA efforts at protecting the Israelis in official reports made it quite obvious, and the fact these are the countertop stuff and not the omitted 2000+ papers that the government decided to keep classified makes it more interesting.
The Assassination does make sense as a Cointelpro operation because it's so chaotic and over the top on paper, it makes sense for someone to send several different hitmen groups into Dallas because it muddles the narrative and becomes more confusing the more you investigate, and ironically enough Oswald didn't even hold a gun.
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This is a new plane, say something nice to her.
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>>8044
She looks ugly. Can you charge her at a Tesla charging station? I want to meet the guy who designed it, so I can see what an ugly fat faggot looks like.
Get that ugly bitch out of here.
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>>8044
Oh boy dis gon be-
<canards
I don't even want to know what it took to get Boing out of the Leather club and into the Gym proper.
Question is, will Israel receive a full copy of the supply chain for domestic production in advance of any Obama-style manufacturing shoahs on the US side?
And why use the F-47 designation when the Republic F-47 Thunderbolt exists?
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>>8048
>And why use the F-47 designation when the Republic F-47 Thunderbolt exists?
Trump is the 47th president.
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What percentage of the recent anti-Watermelon protests in Torkey are
>PKK
>USA=HTS=SDF=PKK
>Mossad
>Actual butthurt Roaches with no affiliation to the PKK despite what the Watermelonites claim
>Iranian Hisbolla terröristler who are also PKK
?
Any chance the protests might ((( escalate )))?
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>>8069
If they do, he would just kill everyone to stay in power.
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>>8071
>declare all protesters PKK supporters and thus terröristler
>half the country is now PKK
<half the country is now PKK
Ebin plan, no way the US wouldn't use this opportunity to execute a coup to put a more EUsrael-compliant puppet in charge for the purpose of assuming direct control of Syria under Israeli observation to eradicate any trace of Russian/Iranian/Lebanese/Alawite/Christian presence in the country.
>inb4 the illegitimate Roach enclave on Cyprus rebrands itself as the legitimate Republic of Torkey
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>>8048
The Jug was the P-47. The F designation didn't become standard for fighters until 1962 and prior to that was only used on naval fighters (starting with the FF "Fifi" biplane and ending with the XF10F prototype.)

But yeah the Strelok above probably has it right. The second Trump administration may have thrown in the towel on the F35 Flying Pork Barrel for practical reasons, but "F47" is almost certainly a president number reference.
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>>8100
>The F designation didn't become standard for fighters until 1962
That was when it became standard across services, but after the USAF become a separate service in the late 40s, they shifted to F designations for existing types, including the P-47/F-47.
The wikipedia article on the 1962 standardization cites the F-4 Phantom as an example, where both its Navy and Air Force designations before the standardization already used "F" (F4H and F-110 respectively).
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>>8101
Pedantic in this case, as the Thunderbolt didn't see Korea. It was only flown in exercises under the F designation. You might as we be saying that the Phantom (II) isn't the F-4 because a P-38 based recon plane got the desgination first.
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>>8107
There's too many Thunderbolts in the burger plane arsenal as is, but the F-47 designation seems peak gay considering Dup isn't going to see the plane enter service within his term and there's no guarantee a future president won't change it either to be more in line with prior designations or just to BTFO his legacy for updoots.
I hope the plane is really just a full-size X-36.
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>>8110
I'm holding out hope that it'll be the plane they were trying to make with the F35, before the Marines stuck their dicks in the spec and wanted a variant that's just a very expensive Super Harrier. But if they actually do get the Flying Pork Barrel to do the job of the F/A18 and F-15E maybe all they'd need is an F22 refresh.
In either case, hopefully someone changes it to 40 or something that wasn't too famous under the P designations anyway. Or just bumps it up to 50.
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>>8122
>entire messages consisting of sequences of emojis used in communication at the highest level of federal government
<Jimmies Status: [  ] Not Rustled [X] Rustled
>>8122
>disappearing message time was set
Isn't it very, very illegal to have formal government correspondence get purged like that without archival?

Anyway, too bad the journalist was the responsible kind who waited until well after the strikes to go public. It would have been more interesting if it were someone willing to pass the info to the Houthis in advance.
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>>8117
>50
But that might get it confused with the T-50 PAK FA, which was the designation of the Su-57 during its development until its entry into RuAF service in 2019.
Plane-related video games released in the 2010s tended to use T-50 or Su-50, a designation of F-50 would clearly be taken advantage of by evil Russian shills.

>>8122
>nobody knows who the Houthis are
But I thought the CIA and Mossad knew everything, how could this be?!
>We are currently clean on OPSEC
>implying
>The team in MAL did a great job as well
No surprise there, Muslims do like them Dragon Balls.
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>>8126
>Isn't it very, very illegal
Remind me again who is responsible for enforcing those laws?
>>8127
>how could this be?!
"nobody" referring to the general public to the exclusion of participants of Mongolian underwater basket weaving internet-based forums, hence the 'keep talking about Biden failed & Iran' instead of towelhead variant #83.
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>Isn't it very, very illegal
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Those damn ninjas!
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Its fucking gone.
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>>8179
That's not cool at all.
>>8179
Where?
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>>8182
Myanmar
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It seems amidst some confusion and misreports were they the 4 disappeared american soldiers in the Lithuanian border exercise have actually not been found yet and their utility tank was indeed discovered in a bog days ago but the NATO and lithuanian forces took a couple of days to get it out of there, now after 4 days they practically drained the bog but still no sights of the troops.
The plot thickens.
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>>8187
This reads like the set up to a creepypasta.
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>>8187
My money is still on "they swamped it, bailed out because it was still sinking, then managed to pass out and die from hypothermia" rather than "kidnapped by Belarus/Russia." They'd have nothing to gain and everything to lose by snatching four grunts. I expect someone will eventually stumble across the bodies in some woods in completely the wrong direction from where they should have been going.
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Need a new (competently made) Slavwar thread.
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>>8192
>>8187
Shrek has entered the fray.
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>>8193
Now it seems things have turned interesting, yesterday they announced they did find bodies... just 3 of them, one is still missing and it hasn't been specified if they were inside the vehicle or in the bog, to make things worse people are also commenting on the lack of visuals from the bogged vehicle itself despite the different viewed instances and several visuals of the bog being drained by authorities.

One jewtube comment said something interesting and now almost obvious, like >>8170 pointed out there was a drone strike on a Dnipro hotel around the 28th that was supposedly full of mercs, with 4 dead and 20+ injured, around the same time span in which the americans disappeared so its valid to imagine they were part of the fabled NATO reinforcements posing as tourists. The missing body might've been unrecovered from that fallen hotel, either under the debris or mutilated/burned from the blasts.

But hold on, yesterday too after the 3-body NATO news Belarus informed the media that they had detained a US citizen in a railway station, namely the Maladzyechna station, for illegally crossing from the lithuanian border, this by hiding in an empty train box and detected by the authorities via thermal imaging which was also released in the same press event. No further details were revealed about the man, his motives, or anything. 
The plot is thickening like porridge.
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Posting it here because the original BO was a Strelok on cafe/k/.
>>8195
Isn't Kaliningrad also covered in swamp? I guess there goes NATO twitterfags claims that Kaliningrad can be conquered in a day
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Drone wall being built in the Baltics
I assume we're all patiently waiting for another shitshow OP for the slav-slapfest thread series, as it may be more entertaining than the actual conflict as of late
>first Bidup scares away a whole lot of people from the USD by freezing Russian assets
>now Dup crashes the global system that let the US of A offset its inflation by pushing a whole lot of its currency to the rest of the world
It really wouldn't surprise me if the dollar lost its status as the global reserve currency by the end of the decade. The EU could start trading oil in Euros with North African and Central Asia if they really wanted to, and also have an agreement with China to trade without exchanging USD.
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>>8141
Surely banning swords will finally stop ninjas.
>>8214
Asian and African countries and banks are buying up dollars in order to avoid tariffs so the dollar is stronger despite the American economy tanking
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>>8219
>buying up dollars in order to avoid tariffs
How does that work?
>hohols say they managed to capture 2 chink soldiers
Someone should really make a new thread, otherwise I will make a shitty one to prompt someone else to make a better one.
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>>8223
You can't threaten us with a good time, anon.
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>>8224
But I can threaten you with making a shitty new thread it will be all r*ddit content
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>>8225
Then do it, faggot.
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>>8225
And yet you hesitate. Do iy.
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>>8227
You need to go back. Besides, one thing we can learn from this conflict is that threat can be more potent than their execution.
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>make a new thread
>try to post this:
https://archive.md/xkHg6
<cannot because my IP got autobanned
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>>8230
The filter is hyper-sensitive as usual. I removed the ban but unfortunately I cannot change global settings. What triggered the filter was the letter right before the .com part. I know it's stupid, but what can you do.
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>>8231
Thanks. Guess I'll have to piss off a few anons and post only archive.whatever links from now on.
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>>8231
>What triggered the filter was the letter right before the .com part.
>...independent.com/ will the machine spirit get mad at me too?
What?..
>>8232
>I'll have to piss off a few anons and post only archive.whatever links from now on.
When did this become controversial? I blame tourists. Archiving pages was always considered to be best practice.
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>>8236
It's not the practice of archiving, but that archive uses couldflare, and that pisses off a few anons with special needs, so I usually also include the original link to make them happy.
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It seems the U.S. has discussed serious matters with Panama security officials and an undisclosed amount of troops have "moved" to all facilities permanently in the canal previously controlled by Panama's forces despite the reluctance of the political leaders.
All in all, a soft invasion in all but name, both countries had constant joint exercises so nothing new about U.S. presence but this move seems like the whiny, armed & annoying dude crashing at his cousin's couch to scare off the dude's girlfriend, in this case PR China.

If there was any doubt about Cold War II, this is just about it, U.S. securing choke points of commerce, global lockdown and recession after mishandling a lab in enemy territory, blowing up gas pipes, a proxy war against an eastern power that blew your other labs in the area as their first move, trying to scare off an ally so they can surrender a giant chunk of ice with injuns for a future commerce route, tariff wars specifically against the other eastern power that is working as a mini recession.
Shit's fucked.
I have nowhere else to post this.
I am a leaf by citizenship. I hate the government. I hate the "conservatives". I am completely on board for the balkanizatuon of the country.  But that feels like decades of pain and suffering first before that is even an option. I hate my "compatriots".
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>>8241
>I am a leafburger by citizenship. hate the government. I hate the "conservatives". I am completely on board for the balkanizatuon of the country.  But that feels like decades of pain and suffering first before that is even an option. I hate my "compatriots".
Many such cases worldwide. At least in Canada you have more than two (somewhat) viable parties at then national level, a level of decorum is maintained. To the south it's full steam ahead onto Idiocracy.
>>8238
>pisses off anons with special needs
Do you mean "traffic shaping" shenanigans by cf or the residual salt from when cf cucked out and cutoff 8chan?
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>>8248
I have no idea, you should find one of them to know what this is all about.
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>>8250
Are these special needs anons in the room with us now?


Word is 4cuck got shut down because apparently no one bothered to install updates ever since moot left. The site could be in for an influx of new members.
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>shhiiiieettt I'm going to be late for class
>see white slut having a bad period
>Damn girl use some tapons
>Slurps ice coffee, its hot in florida
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>>8305
Going by the second video he had a pistol, maybe the shotgun and multiple shooters were imaginary. 
It sounds like a .40sw to me, I'm betting my internets on an M&P 40 as the officially recognized shooters weapon.
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>>8306
>maybe the shotgun and multiple shooters were imaginary
Eyewitness accounts from normies are useless during any crime involving guns. They almost always report more shooters than there really are and more shots because of echos. There are hundreds of gang shootings where dumbshits will tell the cops the shooter
>hadda full auto masheen gun!
and it turns out to be an ordinary Glock fired as fast as the nigger could.
>>8306
For what it's worth I'm hearing that it was the service weapon he stole from his step-mother (a cop). No idea what her department uses, but .40 S&W was designed for law enforcement, so it'd make sense, right?
And they reportedly found shotgun at the scene as well.
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>>8313
Shooter was son of a cop, again, and this happened in the middle of an active shooter drill, hence why tons of cops were around, perhaps even the mom
It's stinks of a glowop
>Florida
Land of Glowops too
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>>8316
> this happened in the middle of an active shooter drill, hence why tons of cops were around
Really makes you think./
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lol
What was supposed to be a PR stunt, while some others think a cease & desist warning, turned into pure comedic timing for Vance and his party in very probably the bad sense of the phrase.
In terms of the esoteric we are in uncharted territory since Francis according to Prophecy of the Popes but some others say now that those papers are so well known that the Church will name just about everyone not named Peter/Pietro/Pedro, with a rock on his coat of arms/surname and practically no one from Lazio just in case.
Argentina 88 on 420/Resurrection Day/Hitler's Birthday
>https://apnews.com/article/pope-vance-us-migration-c9fc577cabff138de7bd8026133994fc
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>>8337
So I guess the forced reunion Nicea 2025 is off the table now?
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>>8338
It's a go i suppose, too much prep time and some money has been spent for it
>Nicaea 2025 Conferences held in Alexandria and Istanbul
>Latter known as The New City of the Seven Hills when Constantinople
>Last Pope will witness a city of 7 hills get decimated
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>>8337
>just in case
Yes, this is totally how prophecies work.
>>8339
>Nicaea 2025
Will the Russian Orthodox church be invited? or enter Constantinople by force
Deus vult.
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Well, it was fucking true.
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>>8396
Fuck yes, the release of the upgraded light-gun for the VR Duck Hunt looks amazing!
So what are the odds of the sandniggers and the shitniggers on starting a war and then europe/usa having a huge wave of refugees?
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https://judiciary.house.gov/committee-activity/markups/markup-legislative-proposals-comply-reconciliation-instructions --> https://archive.ph/2I912
>to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement 
>$45,000,000,000 ... shall only be used for family residential center capacity and single adult alien detention capacity.
>$14,400,000,000 ... shall only be used for transportation and removal operations, ... 
>$8,000,000,000 ... shall only be used to hire additional personnel of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ... [10,000 total through 2029]
Boy that's a lot of gigabucks if you ask me. Almost x10 ICE's current budget in fact.

>This authority includes entering an alien enemy's residence to make an AEA apprehension where circumstances render it impracticable to first obtain a signed notice and warrant of apprehension and removal.
Fourth amendment you say? Well SCOTUS will just have to include "inconvenient" and "too lazy" "impracticable" in the list of reasonable exemptions, all in due time. The second amendment is harder to ignore and dismiss this way, but this too shall pass.

tl;dr: ICE will be the trump gestapo.
>>8456
>then europe/usa having a huge wave of refugees?
One can only wish for so much, let us pray that G*d destroys amalek(whites) quickly.
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This is /k/ related, but I couldn't find a handgun general thread and wasn't sure my questions merited making a thread for them.

I got a Keltec P17 yesterday. It was sort of an impulse purchase.  I had the transfer done at a store with an indoor range, so I swabbed out the bore, just in case there was any kind of preservative or whatever in it, put a couple drops of oil on the slide rails, and tried it out.  Slide movement felt a little bit rough and it made a sound like a tiny high-pitched zipper when I cycled the slide, which worried me, but it did go into battery.

Slowly and painfully I put 350 rounds through it.  I was almost convinced it was a lemon when I left.  I was getting constant failures to feed, extraction, and ejection problems, plus failures to go into battery.  I thought CCI "Clean-22" would be the perfect stuff to break it in with.  I had thought they'd fixed the problems with it.  Stupid me.  The only reason I didn't tell the store to return it as defective was that when I tried Mini-Mags, it mostly ran.  It shot really low when I got it out of the box, but the sights are adjustable and I was able to get it zeroed dead nuts on at ten yards, at least with Mini-Mag solids, which encouraged me a little.

I got it home and cleaned it very, very, very thoroughly.  I and put some SOTARacha lube on the slide rails, barrel hood, recoil spring, and so in, and this morning I went to the range with it and a few boxes of Aguila, Armscor, and a partial box of Federal Automatch.  I put 250 rounds through it. It ran like a raped ape with the cheapest, dirtiest ammo I could find, short of Remington Thunderbolts, and I am halfway tempted to get a carton of those the next time I'm at Bass Pro Shops to see if it chokes on them.  It is accurate enough that at the end I was hammering out head shots on a silhouette target at ten yards as fast as I could find the front sight and press the trigger, with 100% hits except for the ones that made oval holes.  I didn't even have any duds or stovepipes, which is unusual when I shoot more than a handful of Automatch at once.  It did start keyholing toward the end.  The rifling looks a little shallow to my eye and there are chatter marks on the tops of the lands.  When I pull a bore snake through it there's noticeably less resistance then with my Ruger Mk. III.  I just cleaned it again and put more lube on it.  I may go to the range with it again tomorrow.

Things I like:

trigger is surprisingly smooth for something with most of the fire control components being sheet metal stampings

front sight is fiberoptic

rear sight is adjustable for both windage and elevation

points very naturally

seems to be reliable when it's clean and properly lubed

16+1

frame-mounted safety is in just the right place and works just the right way

Things I don't like so much:

trigger is spooky light with no perceptible wall before it breaks, published specs say it's supposed to be a four pound trigger, if this one's even two pounds I'll eat my hat

trigger has crazy overtravel, reset is very far forward and is a tiny, barely perceptible click that I can miss when I'm not concentrating hard on feeling it

not a fan of the pivoting paddle magazine release

slide stop is half an inch too high on the frame

extractor tension seems marginal

as with many Kel-Tec products, the frame is a plastic clamshell held together with screws, and the halves don't match perfectly, with a noticeable sharp edge all the way around

magazines needed to be loaded fully and shot until empty a few times before the feed lips smoothed up and allowed the top cartridge in a full mag to go into the chamber reliably

it points naturally, but it feels cheap and plasticky, so lightweight as to feel insubstantial, like a kid's toy, the Internet reviewer who said he thought it was made out of recycled beer cans and a broken supersoaker wasn't far off at all

All in all I'm positively impressed with it and glad I made the purchase.  It's a hell of a lot more reliable than the Taurus TX22 I got based on the hype when they were released, which is now on its fourth trip back to Taurus, this time with a cracked slide.  I'm so happy with it that I bought an optics plate for it. When it arrives I'm going to stick the smallest, lightest RMSc green dot on it that I can find on Amazon and shoot it until it breaks.  I've ordered four more mags, too.  Would it be dumb to get a cheap airsoft-grade light and put it on the rail, just to make it extra tactical?
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>>8477
>wasn't sure my questions merited making a thread for them
There's QTDDTOT >>33 /k/anteen is more for shitpost containment
>trigger is spooky light with no perceptible wall before it breaks
>trigger has crazy overtravel, reset is very far forward and is a tiny, barely perceptible click
It the gun new or second hand? I'm not very familiar with P17 but sounds like it might be bad parts in the trigger assembly. I'd ask the store to look at it (assuming they have a gunsmith on staff).
>cheap airsoft-grade light and put it on the rail, just to make it extra tactical?
Try it out, why not, you didn't really say what role you intend for this gun. Return if it doesn't make sense. With all the china shitflingingdiplomacy the cheap stuff might not be so for long.
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