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This thread is for handling boards from other sites that wish to migrate here/have been orphaned if public thread creation is locked on /meta/. If public thread creation is open you are free to make a dedicated thread here, otherwise I will make one for you.

The rules for migration are : 
- All Migrating/orphaned boards will be considered outside of the application cycle and should contact me at the same email address listed below.
- I will require proof that you are/were the BO/mod on another imageboard, or that the moderation team for the board in question has fallen apart.
- You must agree to follow all global rules for this site.
- You must agree to actively moderate the new board.
- If accepted, you must notify anons on the old board if it still exists. I do not mind If zzzchan is used as a bunker until a migration can be coordinated/ anons are comfortable making the switch. The new board will be unlisted in this type of scenario and will not be announced util ready.

Feel free to ping me at [email protected] in case of a happening. I'll come right here.
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Well, that is why I tried to move to Blacked dot moe in the first place, I should have probably been more drastic instead of giving people a choice in the first place
Sadly I went through all the trouble of finding a way to force a manual account creation for the other mods and they haven't shown up since
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is anon.cafe down?
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Both them and 16chan when I went to see what was going on. Anon.cafe reported 502 errors over the course of the day on the main link, side-link, and tor node. On their third link I got a "DNS Probe" error and it also wouldn't connect. Don't know if 16chan has fallbacks or not.
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yeah its down for me too
hopefully there back up soon
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seems to be down again

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Hello and welcome to zzzchan! I will be using this thread to explain how this site is set up and answer the initial wave of questions. Thread creation on /meta/ will be locked initially, I will explain how this will be handled going forward below.

Now, to answer some initial questions:

>Who the fuck are you? Who are the other mods?
I am sturgeon, I was a mod back on fat/v/ and later z/v/. fat/v/ was my first role as a moderator in any capacity. I'm happy to say that Pasta and seagull have also stuck around and will be managing /v/. r9k's BO will also be back.

>Nice namefagging
I intend to only use my name & role tag when posting something relevant to my role or the site. 

>Why have you set this up?
Because zchan was doing fairly well before the admin pulled the plug without warning. I'd been considering making my own IB since fat died but once zchan went down I decided I had to make the effort. 

>Will you abandon this after x amount of time?
I've gone through the effort of setting all this up after losing 2 previous boards. I'm doing this because I want it to, and I plan to keep this place running as long as I can. 
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Honestly that would be really nice, there is no need for these bright themes that wreck our eyes anymore
Kill yourself. Gruvbox Dark or bust. Everforest Dark is quite nice as well.
Look at your E-Mails fish
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Thought about getting a conventional domain?
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Will zzzchan ever support IPFS in some fashion?
It might be useful for going past the 32mb filesize limit on an anon-to-anon basis at the expense of anons having to run their own local client because public gateways are DMCA cucks who banned the 2hu OVA hashes anon posted on 8/tech/ circa 2016.
ffmpeg 5.1 recently added support for it and mpv is expected to do so too in a future version.

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Use this thread to report any issues you find while using the site. We currently have 2 known issues: 

1. Real-time post updates are not working. I still need to work out how to get websockets to go through the proxy properly. you will see the error switch back to timed refresh after a few seconds, so auto update is still semi-working.
2. Geoip flags are all inheriting the proxy server's location. I've already solved this issue with post IDs so I have a rough idea of what I need to do to fix this, but it is not high priority.

I also fully expect shenanigans immediately after launch, so if anything happens I will be working to fix it as fast as I can. Your help here is appreciated.
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The [u] button above filenames disappeared for me, it's been a while like this. However when a new post appears on an already loaded page, the [u] button is visible... What gives?
I would like a reply to these posts, please.

Sturgeon, the last time I did this I had to post in this thread and annoy people for over a month.  Please just fucking reply and tell us what's going on.
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I would like a reply to these posts, please.
I tried unfucking the existing install and it hasn't worked. I could try a reinstall but that would entail far more downtime, so I'm migrating to a new appserver.

This new appserver is up and running with a blank instance of jschan. I'm currently experimenting and ironing out a few things (automation, tor, git, etc). Once I have the software how I want it I'll be doing a dry run of importing the db (you'll see the live site update jschan to catch up on db migrations first). From there it's just making sure configs are working and a little testing. Tentative goal date is 8/19, I'll announce a concrete date globally when I have one. The actual migration process will entail a short downtime while the current db is piped over, and if something breaks the old server will be ready to fail back to as needed.

In the meantime addressing current bugs is on hold, >>4088 if you could upload those .mp4s somewhere I can test them out with everything else.
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Thanks for replying.  I just realized that this place's birthday was this week and saw what you posted on /b/, so chalk my recent reports and consternation up to me not doing enough reading.

I hope everything goes smoothly.  You're doing a great thing keeping this place alive.

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I will leave the rest of the post intact, please ignore the special stipulations.

Hello and welcome to the fist round of BO applications for zzzchan. I will outline the application process below, along with some special stipulations for this first round.

To apply for a board, you must submit your answers to the following questions: 

1. What will the focus of your board be?
2. What will the rules be?
3. How would you handle the following hypothetical scenarios:
    A. A user who is only breaking the rules of your board has a substantial post history that is perfectly fine up until the single instance you are reviewing. What do you do?
    B. A spammer posts CP. What do you do?
    C. A spammer has slid your catalog and all unpinned threads are gone. What do you do?
4. What time range(s) would you normally be able to keep an eye on the board?
5. If your board becomes active enough, do you agree to look for one or more vol(s) to help you? Do you know anyone already?
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I think /b/ is now subverted by the herdniggers and one of them managed to get a BO position, if you look on the catalog of the board, I'm sure you'll see why.
/his/ - Historical Discussion and Shitposting
>1. What will the focus of your board be?
Like the title says, historical discussions and shitposting, from ancient times on. 
>2. What will the rules be?
Aside from global rules, no drama posting (i.e., "hi John", "hi Eden" posting),  no schizo posting, and no spamming.
>3. How would you handle the following hypothetical scenarios:
    >A. A user who is only breaking the rules of your board has a substantial post history that is perfectly fine up until the single instance you are reviewing. What do you do?
    If the rule break is minor, I'll let him off with a warning. If the issue is major, he gets banned. 
    >B. A spammer posts CP. What do you do?
   Immediate ban and deletion of the material. If he uses proxies or VPNs, rangeban those. 
    >C. A spammer has slid your catalog and all unpinned threads are gone. What do you do?
    Ideally, this would be prevented by limiting or locking thread creation until the spammer leaves. Otherwise, make the best of it and see if we can get threads restored.
>4. What time range(s) would you normally be able to keep an eye on the board?
Regular burger hours. 
>5. If your board becomes active enough, do you agree to look for one or more vol(s) to help you? Do you know anyone already?
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>Immediate ban and deletion of the material. If he uses proxies or VPNs, rangeban those. 
So, literally nobody can post on the board?
>Muh history
Can I become a mod for /b/? I have time to waste

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Do you consider zzz your home? Why do you stay here and not another place on the webring?
How many other boards on the webring do you regularly visit?
If you use tor, why come here at all instead of a tor only imageboard?
Do you think there are "better" chans for specific boards?
In terms of users/admin, what would you say is the differences between zzz, and say anoncafe?
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I crosspost here, tvch, and 8chan. Occassionally anon.cafe as well. I can tell the vast majority of posters crosspost as well. On 8chan its pretty obvious there are fewer crossposters but here its evident that at least 90% post on multiple webring sites
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fuck off
>anon.cafelacking identity, direction
I don't consider that to be a bad thing, since it means that anyone who wants to post there is less likely to be shooed away or feel unwanted; the obvious contrast is /a/ and the non-/tg/ boards on smug, which all have the looming threat of /a/'s invisible, inconsistent moderation.  Anon.cafe has definitely seen its best use as a shelter board, but I think for smaller communities that have less pressing discussion topics, it can work.  Obviously I'd like it if there were more people to talk to about certain things, but that's a general webring problem.

>vanishing vs staying anonymous
It's true that he doesn't trot his nametag around like an attention whore, but he doesn't communicate as often as he should.  There have been several cases in the bug reporting thread where people had to ask for weeks or months to get an answer about a simple thing, only for the fix to be very easy.  The markup was broken for over a year because of a small regex typo, and if he had simply copy-pasted the contents then it could have been fixed earlier.  Now the markup is functional, but the suggestion to use ++ to indicate bold has caused problems when people want to discuss the C plus plus programming language (I can't even type it correctly here because it'd cause part of my sentence to be bolded).  This should also be an easy fix, but instead we just get radio silence.  It's very frustrating, because I do think he genuinely wants the site to be good but just doesn't talk to us enough.

>porn dedicated boards
I'm against that too.  I can browse boorus if I want to find that stuff, and every single porn board succumbs to one of three fates: becoming desolate, becoming infiltrated by faggots (NTR, interracial, /d/egeneracy, etc.), or worshipping attention whores.
>plan for future identity
I don't think so, but personally I'm not too worried.  There have been only a few boards Sturgeon has been reluctant or slow to create when people ask for them, like /pol/, but everything that isn't /v/ is noticeably slower.  We used to have a /tg/ (which was apparently run by Eden if you can believe it) but it was stillborn, and our /a/, /pol/, and /tech/ boards are very slow.  /tech/ is semi-usable but the board is a glorified QTDDTOTT vehicle with a handful of other large threads related to pointless distro wars and the usual Linux autism.

If a site has too much focus on appealing to a broad user base or attracting many different user bases, then you wind up with something like acidchan/kikechan/8moe/whatever the fuck, which had a huge pedophile infestation for most of its lifetime (the CP on a hard drive is just free speech, guys!).  They apparently recently "cleaned up" that, but they've still got boards for diaper porn, interracial porn, zoophile porn, and a few other truly subhuman fetishes.

On the other hand, you've got places like The Gunt Retort/alogs/whatever /tv/ is calling themselves these days, which are more like lightning rods for particular brands of autism and obsessive behaviour.  They would pose a threat if their users were capable of doing anything beyond typing "dup kino btfo chud seethe lmao" and so on; you can always tell when one of them blows in because he's incapable of typing like a normal human being.  There's something deeply disturbed about them, and they've been in a feedback loop for the last couple years since julay went down.  Hopefully they all get burnt out and find more productive things to do.
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>less likely to be shooed away or feel unwanted
That's a good point, and leads me to believe that that's the point of the "cafe." Everyone sitting at their own table, not entirely caring what the other groups are up to. Whether or not that was the admins intention, I think it's the most positive way to view it. Thanks for making that click for me.

>doesn't communicate as often as he should
Going through the bug reporting thread, and I see what you mean. The silence on 'easy' fixes is frustrating. If it's his fulltime job, any excuses would be lame. But I doubt this is the only thing occupying his time. He mentioned total cost of running it was about $500/year, and would be open to monero donations ( >>143 ). Which he should display somewhere here. If it's not being shown due to how that would be perceived, I understand, but it's not like he needs to have an ad for it on the front page. This is a free service being provided on his dime after all. I hope he displays it and get's a fair amount back for the time and effort. Maybe it encourages him to invest more.

>There have been only a few boards Sturgeon has been reluctant or slow to create when people ask for them
That's definitely the smarter way to do it. I agree with what you concluded about a site's userbase.

This leads me back into my initial questioning, and the thread I CROSSPOSTED to in my reply.

The webring is fascinating, and I've been thinking about the state imageboards are in currently and their future. With about a million and a half alt-chans out there, only a few are "selected," or maybe grandfathered in. But either way an even smaller amount have any sort of "idea" in mind. Erischan has Discordianism, which keeps it alive. Alogsspace has cow, which keeps it alive. Sportschan has.. you get the idea. The rest are basically a few boards that the admins hold dear to them, videogames, or anime. This place has the most potential for a "great idea." And I don't mean having a running theme, or being a one board pony show. But having something that sets it apart/above the rest while still retaining it's soul (core userbase).

The admin here is competent, and has (so far) been trustworthy in many peoples eyes. That is hard to come by in these places. Even if the site isn't up to date, anons still come here. Tech issues can be fixed at some point, the former cannot.
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>Most here want imageboards to survive, but don't want to interact with someone unfamiliar to them. Most here want others to talk to and share with, but shun and scoff at those without the same experiences as them. The established boards are the worst with this. It's expected that you already know their entire history, every character that's popped up, and the current meta. Now spanning across multiple websites.
This is to encourage lurking and filter out retards. Faggots intelligent enough to piece things together, thick skinned enough to ignore insults, inquisitive enough to keep searching, and determined enough to put the time in before asking retarded questions survive. NIggers and other subhumans click away. I would imagine you understand this already. Besides, sometimes an anon will effortpost and/or spoonfeed. Questions do not always go unanswered. There is a mix of gatekeeping and guidance.

To answer some of the questions in the OP, I am a 16chan refugee. I have been lurking anon.cafe for the last couple years, but my posting there hasn't increased. I like to browse this site as it is the best replacement I have found, but I don't post much as I am still reading the room. I was never a regular visitor of /v/ but I enjoy reading the posts on zzz/v/. I've been too tired and depressed to play much videogames and would probably get shit on for playing normie/steam g
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Why doesn't it have a lokinet instance? It's faster, more secure and decentralized.

spoiler test
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Please make an even worse captcha, thanks.
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The problem where you get the same captcha over and over seems to be caused by caching. Since the captcha image is loaded from a generic url (/captcha) it loads the result that was cached previously. You can fix it by using "/captcha?unique_number" instead of "/captcha" as the URL (where unique_number can be anything as long as it's different, for example current time).

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dumbass admin can't fix his shit so half of the software features don't work, it has been like this for MONTHS
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Hi eden

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How difficult would it be to set up a streaming platform to run alongside this site? 8ch has one but a lot of people don't like that site for various reasons. They use OSP and it seems to work most of the time, and seems to be fairly easy to set up. Between BMN and the increasing number of streamers on /v/ there seems to be a good amount of people that would use it. Is the current server strong enough to handle the load?
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I doubt the fish can casually afford to pay for the same resources as a fed sponsored site out of his own pockets.
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You can disable webtorrent in the player widget, chunk sharing shouldn't be causing cutouts since the instance server will always be there as a fallback, and in my experience kikechan and even jewtube have comparable delays because they're just that jewish. If your instance is keeping up to date you can turn off P2P before you even start streaming too.
>rather large 30 second delay
The new low latency mode allows you to disable P2P completely before live streaming, resulting in a ~10s delay which is comparable to other streaming platforms. Not all instances have the new mode though.
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the site i stream with has not updated to this new system, do you have any alternatives that I could use instead?
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The instance I'm currently using has disabled registrations, so you can search for an instance here instead (adjust filters):
Check the peertube version of each instance before registering, you can view it on the about page or similar. Any version >=4.2 is golden.

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