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Are some people mentally incapable of accepting libertarian truths?
If so,what proportion of society?
If it's a large amount, doesn't this run counter to certain libertarians' hopes (e.g., Ron Paul's) that "Liberty has to win in the marketplace of ideas"? How can liberty hope to be achieved in such a situation?
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>>1511 (OP) 
>Liberty has to win in the marketplace of ideas"
Democracy will always degenerate into socialism and everybody trying to steal from everybody else. Convince people who can be convinced but otherwise focus on yourself and your own community of like minded people.
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>>1514
Browne pilled.

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Have any of the cryptoanarchists thought up any solutions to the problem of fedposting?

Specifically the following playbook:
>Forum with actual freeze peach.
>Feds want to shut it down.
>Feds post cp on it.
>Feds claim, "You're hosting cp."
>No way to show that they've been framed.
>"Give us backend access to spam it the fuck with fedposting bots, or get shut down."
>Those that don't have a tor site get shut down.
>Those that do have a tor site, "Fuck off, we're resistant to censorship."
>Feds spam the everloving fuck out of the board--usually with cp anyways
>Have to put up a captcha.
>"Give us backend access or we shut down the captcha provider :)."
>Only freeze peach forums left are those with like 3 users who post every few months.
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>>1335
>jurisdictions where even overtly publishing such things in print and video existed in a legal gray area or was not being prosecuted.
The cyphernomicon book would've been banned in some jurisdictions in the 90s?
>>1334
Apparently I don't. Mind explaining yourself?
>>1453
sure
>>676 (OP) 
Heres what id try:
- host it on the deep web dark net (tor or i2p)
- make everyone able to post anything they want
- more crucially, make everyone able to delete anything they want
- everyone is a mod, and can remove any post theyd like to
- so a war will break out between the cp spam feds and cp deleting users
- this can drive feds to rage quit or change tactics.
- totally ground up and decentralized like anarchychan was, yet also with an inbuilt resistence to leas and a culture that emerges from giving mod powers no everybody
- no capatcha needed.
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>>1490
ZeroNet?

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Why the fuck aren't we talking about this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfcd0gWNIog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcdDwUyAf84
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nO9e1ZkYex0
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>>863
Did Hoppe ever respond to Milei's response? I mean, looking at Hoppe's response I just can't help but feel like "Are you this naïve dude? Do you understand how checks and balances work?" Like, the President can't unilaterally remove departments even though he wants to. You still have to have congressional support. I'm honestly surprised he was able to do as much as he did.
Really, in general, I always get curious about how much hope people place in Presidents. They're not "L'etat c'est moi" creatures. Logically, there should be that much effort placed into senators, since filibustering has done more for the cause of liberty than practically anything else in recent times.
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>>1403
>>863
Like in the ass?
>>1402
Did Ron Paul do anything other than make a bunch of edgy teenagers?
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>>282 (OP) 
((( Reasons )))

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It's surprised me how quickly this is accelerating all at once. How coordinated it is with this all happening across the entire world in the course of a week or two means that it's collusion behind closed doors just like Gamergate was.
UK's descent into tyranny:
https://archive.is/trnDH
Petition response being "no go fuck urself":
https://archive.is/dh9cG
Australia doing the same:
https://archive.is/av76W
EU doing the same:
https://archive.is/pXzEw
US proposing the same legislation:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7891/text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1748
Youtube rolling it out "voluntarily":
https://archive.is/pLOgY
Microsoft starting to roll it out "voluntary" worldwide (in the article, not the title):
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Yet another US bill:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/737/text

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What are libertarians' plans for when the U.S. government goes bankrupt? Do they have any action plans in place and ready to go?
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>>1427 (OP) 
Beyond just profiteering from buying shittons of gold/silver/etc..
>>1427 (OP) 
Muh tax cuts is not how the rich get richer. Stop reading dumb leftist propaganda.

>U.S. government goes bankrupt?
It already is bankrupt. $37T in debt is bankrupt.

>profiteering
You sound like a shitty person I'm not giving you advice.
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>>1434
>Muh tax cuts is not how the rich get richer. Stop reading dumb leftist propaganda.
O.k.???
>It already is bankrupt. $37T in debt is bankrupt.
I mean the crack-up boom stuff.
>You sound like a shitty person I'm not giving you advice.
For not being a leftist, you gatekeep like one.

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How about this new war going on?
>Republican President
>Conflict in the Middle East
>Antagonistic country was a former British protectorate
>Everyone suspects it's really about oil
>"Pre-emptive" war justification
>Want to oust the dictator

I completely believe Colin Powell that Iraq has WMDs.

Seriously though, ffs, we're doing this song-and-dance again, only with Iran? Did Trump and the Republicans get confused about the single letter difference?
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How can I profit from this war? I know many people will. Should I buy oil stocks?
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>>1411 (OP) 
It's why we always say nothing ever happens and also why we never will watch the Nu-Gelion and many other things. They know it worked before and just keep doing it over and over and I resent it. No remakes for me and nothing ever happens. 
>>1418
If in the USA you probably already have the funny hat, no foreskin, may as well go full kike. Maybe that is the master plan? Once we all act like kikes nobody is a kike anymore? Then they'll change the rules so as to make sure the goyim can't do x thing a jew does I am sure. Better hurry before it gets a goy-lock to make it gentile-resistant, stock. 
>inflation and high rent keeping you from being able to put actual Europid-shekels into the stock
oh wait there goes that childlock. But if you're rich already I guess you were a kike all along, a fun paradoxical catch 22 sorta situation as usual, having money to spare means money to save thus only. those who don't need wealth will  ever profit from such profiteering during those stressful "economic times".  Congratulations!
>>1418
Even Trump doesn't know what he's going to do from day to day. It's hard to trade in those conditions.
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>>1411 (OP) 
>Everyone suspects it's really about oil
I think we're well past people thinking it's just about oil.

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Say that WWIII happens, humanity somehow survives, and the only humans who survived were...the crazy American preppers who are insanely anti-government, extremely paranoid, and have insane amounts of supplies and guns.

What would that post-apocalyptic society look like?

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>>1385
There was this Econtalk ep recently about how EU powers are trying to make U.S. political parties like EU ones, where the right are statist with an anti-immigration corporatist bent, and the left are statist with a pro-immigration government bent; so that way they can COMPLETELY eliminate any libertarian ideology from the system.
Lot of shitty economics in that ep, but I thought that segment was interesting.
https://www.econtalk.org/two-cheers-for-libertarianism-and-econ-101-with-noah-smith/ fwiw
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>>1408
>the right are statist with an anti-immigration corporatist bent
>the left are statist with a pro-immigration government bent
>that way they can COMPLETELY eliminate any libertarian ideology from the system.
No combination of these things is "libertarian". 

>anti-immigration
Government arbitrarily setting rules for who can and can't enter/leave the country is not libertarian.

>pro-immigration
Government shipping in 3rd world migrants and using tax money to give them free food and housing and refusing to act when they commit crimes is also not libertarian.

>corporatist
Government giving special privileges and bailouts to favorite corporations is not libertarian.

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>>1409
Everything you said is exactly what 99% of the normies believes is libertarian. So, good luck with changing that public perception.
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>>1410
>Everything you said is exactly what 99% of the normies believes is libertarian.
Normies tend to think that libertarianism means anything for profit and corpos and "the economy" but that's just them projecting their own greed and lack of principles onto us. Leftists are obsessed with money for the same reason hungry people are obsessed with food.

If we could get normies to understand that libertarianism means the government is not your mommy and you need to take responsibility for your own actions then that would actually be a huge step forward.
>>558
DC is a foreign country to the dejure America I wouldn't set foot withing those 10 square miles.

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How is this as an intro?
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>>776 (OP) 
I don't know I haven't read it.
>>776 (OP) 
In my experience, people don't get logically introduced into libertarianism. They just have experiences with how terrible government is.

Case in point, most hardcore libertarians I know are people who've been working in government with no promotion for like >10 years.
>>776 (OP) 
I recommend Konkin's New Libertarian Manifesto given that it is much shorter.

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What is /liberty/'s ideal currency? Is it gold, silver, or perhaps something else all together? What does /liberty/ think of 1930's germany tying their money to labor? Is barter superior to currency?
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>>1347
Also, I think there's a thread on /finance/ in the webring you should look at.
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>>1311
>people just kept debts and favours because they generally traded goods within the context of their own trusted and smallish clan/tribe sized networks
Yes I've read Graeber too. So what did people repay their debts with? I give you an egg today and you give me milk next week? That's just barter with extra steps my dude.

>>1347
>When should I start buying gold and silver?
Fiat is only going to get more and more worthless. It's like falling out of a plane and saying when should I open my parachute.

>>1348
>just get more stocks instead.
The stock market is as fake and rigged as the money supply. If you have inside connects then sure, otherwise you're just another chump spinning the roulette wheel.

>>1349
>a thread on /finance/ in the webring
They have a shitty captcha which prevents Tor posting.
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>>1393
>The stock market is as fake and rigged as the money supply.
At least it's less gay and rigged than C.D., bonds, and monopoly money by at least being linked to a business.
Also, ffs, I didn't say you shouldn't buy gold. You want to complain so much you can't even see what we agree on. But then again, that's kind of par for the course for us libertarians. Try and be positive and say what you do.
>They have a shitty captcha which prevents Tor posting.
Fair enough. What chans are left for the Torposters, anyways? Must be very few places you can even be on anymore.
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>At least it's less gay and rigged by at least being linked to a business.
But there are many businesses that don't make money and provide no value to anybody and they only exist because of investor hype and government subsidies. How many entertainment companies should be dead and buried but aren't because they put a rainbow flag in their shitty game nobody plays and blackrock gave them 6 gozillian dollars for it.

I don't think this is an environment where you can effectively judge investments on business merit.

On the other hand Tom Woods just put out an episode shilling some options trading process he has been following and claims to be making $3k per week with it so who knows.

>I didn't say you shouldn't buy gold
Well you said gold is only useful in a doomsday situation. I disagree with that, it is a way of storing wealth long term without getting fucked by inflation. This >>693 holds for other stuff too like cows have been valued at around 1oz of gold for 100s of years.

>But then again, that's kind of par for the course for us libertarians. Try and be positive
Fuck you commie I'm the only _real_ libertarian here.
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>>1397
>Fuck you commie I'm the only _real_ libertarian here.
You're supposed to crash out with "You're all a bunch of socialists!" and ragequit.

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