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WHEN THE FUCK IS THIS RECESSION GOING TO HAPPEN?!

The yield curve has been inverted for a record long time.
FED is finally inching down interest rates.
P/E ratios are INSANE.
Stock markets and prices are at all time highs.

WILL YOU FUCKING CRASH ALREADY?!
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>>824 (OP) 
it's not going to happen, they will just declare war on anyone who threatens to cast the us into recession by dumping the dollar. everyone in BRICS is a target now, just wait
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>>984
>After losing in Afghanistan and Ukraine, giving the latter most of their excess equipment
>After going all in for Yidsrael, earning the ire of the entire muslim world including Iran
>After military recruitment rates have fallen to an all-time low
>Weimarica will still have the means and will to enter wars with all the other economic powerhouses of the world simultaneously.
Anon, I...

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Libertarians blown the fuck out... how can they recover?
https://zerocontradictions.net/civilization/case-against-libertarianism
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>>591 (OP) 
I don't have time to read all this so if you want a better response then quote the parts that you find particularly convincing.

>The Libertarian Non-Aggression Principle is typically defined as an ethical rule prohibiting aggression (or actions that violate negative rights). But there are lots of disagreements among Libertarians regarding what the NAP prohibits, allows, and mandates since “aggression” is not clearly defined. 
The literature is very clear that the NAP only applies to property rights. People who try to argue that racism or misgendering is a violation of the NAP are confused leftists or agents trying to fracture the movement.

>Most libertarians are deontologists, so they view morality as a list of rules that shall never be violated. The justification for these rules is that at a macro-level these rules have consequences that cannot be considered at a micro-level. To put this in perspective, let’s take the example of lying. If a drug addict lies to a police officer about the presence of cocaine in his house, he can avoid getting arrested. But if too many people lie, then people won’t trust each other. Here the micro level concern is getting arrested, and the macro level concern is social trust. 
The NAP is only about when is it legitimate to use force against someone (e.g. they are stealing your stuff). That doesn't mean lying is a good thing or should be tolerated. If somebody lied with regards to a business transaction (fraud) then that is a form a theft and falls under the NAP. If somebody just lied and hurt your feelings then you have to find a peaceful way to deal with that. In most human societies once somebody gains a reputation as a liar they generally get shunned by their neighbors, which is perfectly consistent with the NAP. You don't have to associate with somebody you don't want to.

Like most criticism of libertarianism/anarchism this is not a brand new problem that humans have never had to deal with before. It is certainly not something the state can magically fix even if it tried.

>Negative rights require positive rights for their enforcement. The right not to be assaulted implies the right to justice if you do get assaulted. Negative rights requires positive rights to: the labor of the police, detectives, lawyers, and the entire justice system.
This is not true at all. You have the right to defend your property. You can enlist the help of others either voluntarily or through payment. If you're such an asshole that you cannot find any friends or family to help you then that is somewhat your fault. Although as the article says at the top but conveniently forgets to mention here, this is a simple problem to solve with insurance contracts. You don't have to pay the full price of a swat team if you offset the risk with premium payments.

>2.2. Every Existing Organism Can Only Exist At The Cost Of Another
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>>596
aggression can be clearly illustrates by the flashlight analogy.

shining a flashlight on my house should not be considered an act of aggression, but shooting it with a laser should be.

the diffetence being that one has a concrete effect on my property, the other doesnt. it is the fact that my property is being physically affected in a tangible manner that makes it an act of aggression.
>>596
covenant communities.

libertarianism is (almost) every other political ideology, too.

if you beleive that people should leave each others bodies and belongings alone unless the owner has consented to the other person physically interacting with them, then your ideology is covered.

go form whatever little society you want within libertalia or minarchistan/ancapistan.

if you own land, you get to set the terms for living on that land, and any libertarian government will enforce that by evicting the offender who breaks those rules just as they will enforce the nap by evicting those who break them from the society (such as by placing them in prison).

ancapistan will do things a bit differently since it lacks a cental authority to enforce its laws, but theyve already addressed itt how the goal would be accomplished in their society.

most likely you will have three levels of laws to deal with in any of these three utopias:
- the nap, that applies everywhere within its borders.
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Seemed okay when I first browsed it a few months back but since the elections started gearing up, the culture war BS is seeming to amplify
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>>785 (OP) 
It has gotten better.
they're based

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https://odysee.com/@RonPaul:d/why-does-john-kerry-hate-freedom-of:f
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrdUP23Hr4A

What do you think of the calls to legally identify and police misinformation?
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>>861 (OP) 
Walz said something similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8ns76RCmWs

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What is the right-wing libertarian answer to Transhumanism?
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>>438 (OP) 
>wadabaut tranzoomanism
>posts posthuman picture
RIP thread, dead on arrival.
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>>748
Why not both?
>>816
it's the same thing blud
we need to get rid of intellectual property as fast as possible.

intellectual property necessarily conflicts with the ownership of physical private property.

also, corporations should not be treated as persons under the law.

these kinds of changes can make libertarian transhumanism work w/o creating some sort of cyberpunk dystopia.
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>>869
transhumanism doesn't work because it subverts human nature. fuck it.

Howdy fellow autists (auatrians)! Dont normally post in liberty boards but this one seems nice and has some non-retarded people so ill give it a shot.

Let's stop infighting and making the same theoretical arguments over and over again and discuss something new. There is enough theory already! Let us discuss ancap praxis; how should freedom best be achieved...

The greatest failure of modern lolbertarianism has been its utter lack of any practical means to establiah freedom. Rothbard himself had lots of failed aliances, Hoppe had a few, Rand was Rand. Now everything has stagnated and all iq has been deposited into intellectual boomer circlejerks in Mises Institute and the PFS, who's only purpose is to ejaculate this autismo economics onto young impressionable college students. They have never even heard of Monero! All the cool edgy kids now read Moldbug instead.

What we want is one single free community! Afterwards land can be purchased from neighbouring states, thats not a big concern after sovergnty is established. But how has libertarianism existed for this long without a single successful experiment? 69 years after the communisy manifesto we got the bolshevik revolution. Its been 50 years since For a New Liberty, and what have we got to show for it? Free state project and the crypto grifters and larpers in liberland? When Brazil is driving the movement, you know its bad.

Here is my promt for a productive discussion: what are in your opinion the most feasable strategies for liberty in our lifetime? The aim is for a stable and ultraconservative, homogeneous community, with posibility for future territorial expansion. No retarded larps of liberland or seasteading or mars or muh online communities. I will list some good and bad strategies for you to rank. Motivate your rankings!

National libertarian party politics
Cryptoanarchy
Gun proliferation
Ghost guns
Digital freedom/copyleft movement
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>>379
>I would recommend not to focus too hard on racial autism or neocon values.
Collectivism is brain damage but I'm not opposed to building bridges. If racialists want to live in a one-race community then freedom and property rights is an effective way of achieving that goal. They don't have to be our enemies. Most people are only our enemies because we're being forced to live under the same government.

>>382
>How ICE became a $2.8b domestic surveillance agency
That's an argument for why government doesn't work not why borders don't work.

>>378
>Ethonocentrism and liberty are not at odds in principle
Racism and the free market can go either way. Unjustified discrimination is going to cost you because competitors who don't give a fuck what color their customers are will rake in more business. On the other hand justified discrimination is rewarded, for example if most people of a certain race really are broke low IQ violent thugs then refusing to let them on your property would make you better off than the refugees welcome guy who gets robbed raped and killed.
If you want to spend your time productively, work out how the globalist letches got there in the first place and then put protections in place to further keep them out henceforth. Nothing has been worse for our society. As far as England and the English-speaking people goes, this payment in suffering that we're having to pay is worse than when we ourselves arrived on the boats to exploit the weak naivety of the Romano-Briton Vortigern. The blood over our hands is worse than our tumultuous founding was pre-Middle Ages.

Liberty will mean the ejection of the globalist class and their enablers. Do it with a vote, do it with a putsch, nobody cares at this point any more.
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>>389
>work out how the globalist letches got there in the first place
They control the money printers. It's as simple as that. But if you try to take your country off their fake paper standard and onto a gold standard you will get democracy'ed a la Iraq and Libya.
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>>390
If the plan is to get the fish in the tank to eat each other, this being somehow more profitable than peacetime is, then it's going to be difficult in countries which still have some holdout whites left in them, since such people are more likely to notice the man with the bucket pouring the vipers into the house and go for that man instead of just the snakes he's been bringing in.

In any case we're due some fighting and some upheaving. If robots aren't available to do the job then the third-worlders aren't going to cut it, since they are disloyal and inefficient.
>>102 (OP) 
National Libertarianism is goofy and Cuckbug is retarded.

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Look at the seethe in the comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNMXW7rq7vA

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Why the fuck aren't we talking about this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfcd0gWNIog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcdDwUyAf84
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nO9e1ZkYex0
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>>282 (OP) 
>Why the fuck aren't we talking about this guy?
What's to say? He talks a good talk now lets watch him walk.
>What's to say?
Funny memes, good 'best of' moments, etc..  Just to have two seconds to revel, because I feel like libertarians don't get that a lot.
>>282 (OP) 
Hoppe raped this guy

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I've been reading a lot about the Black Plague recently, and have been chilled by how much better things got after the Plague hit.  Labor saving devices.  Increased productivity.  The beginnings of the industrial revolution  Better working conditions.  Better civil liberties.  It's enough to give me pause for Malthus.

What would happen if millions of people stuck in poverty and debt today all committed mass suicide on the same day?  Would there be any sort of 'shock effect' caused by such a bizarre protest of human condition?

Given the collapse of demographics going on, why isn't that priced into labor markets?  Surely, businesses must see that human population is going to drop off a cliff in the next few decades.  E.g., in places like Japan and South Korea especially it's going to completely and utterly fucking collapse.
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>>675 (OP) 
>Given the collapse of demographics going on, why isn't that priced into labor markets?
Labor and manufacturing are completely irrelevant to western economies. We print magic pieces of paper that are backed by nothing and use them to scam brown and yellow people into making everything for us. The problem with printing money is that every time you do it the money becomes worth less and eventually everyone gets crushed by runaway inflation. But we're not there yet.

>in places like Japan and South Korea especially it's going to completely and utterly fucking collapse.
You can only chalk so much up to incompetence. The sooner you realize the government is not on your side the better you will be able to prepare yourself.
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>>675 (OP) 
The BP didn't spread naturally.
>>681
Destroying some magic paper solves the issue.

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