/liberty/ - Austro-Libertarianism

LiquidZulu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzHA3KLL7Ho

>>1075
p. small channel, huh.
>>913
>Tom Woods
Why do the Mises Institute, Tom Woods, and Michael Malice all have that same hard metal intro?
>Ron Paul Liberty Report
Man, I like his content, and I know this is rude, but I'm sorry I just can't stand that slow 90-year-old speaking pace.
>>910
Is it the Chinese cartoons?

This is kind of old now, but it's a bunch of oldfag cypherpunks having a good roundtable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlqOmAOqEmk
Just the one ep.

>>1105
>I know this is rude, but I'm sorry 
I know what you mean. He used to be a competent public speaker. It can be hard to watch time take it's toll like that.

Ceadda of Mercia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAURXQPpXwE
>>910
He knows what he's talking about but he's pretty entry level and more memey. I think he's deliberately targeting an audience of young people unsure of their politics and those who are just starting to dabble in things outside of the mainstream.
>>1075
Definitely the best I've found. Very polished presentation, direct points, and clear logic.

>>1268 (OP) 
This thread is already in >>1265 .

>>1269
Disregard me, the board is dead enough as it is to gatekeep like that. Continue.

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Looking back at all the government programs  retrospectively during Hoover administration, I hope you'll find this video educational. Do you find any similarities of what Trump is doing compared to Hoover?

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>>1233
>There is nothing unlibertarian about forming a group or militia. 
Except for the part where the people it protects pay taxes to it, and the part where the officers carry pistols so that they can shoot men who disobey orders in combat.

>nooooo, anything but blood and soil!

It's called kin preference, and men are willing to fight and die for it. Lolbertarians do not offer any similar motivation. Muh no color matters but green, gimme muh shekels, muh thirty pieces of silver, muh voluntary associations only, muh color blind ideals, all of that works right up until someone uses force. Then all the talk about muh freedums vanishes. Whoever's best at organized violence wins, gets to write history, and gets to teach children their ideals.

>ignoring the replies

When the replies are that retarded, they aren't worth the effort of typing.  Here's your (You).

>>1236
Hey Socialist Jerry! Man, it's been a while. Where have you been since the old Mises forums?

>>1236
>Except for the part where the people it protects pay taxes to it,
It's possible to form a militia without taxes just like how it's possible to have sex without it being rape.

>It's called kin preference, and men are willing to fight and die for it.
If you say so. Nobody is stopping you forming such groups the point is if being born white is a person's biggest achievement then that is guaranteed to be a group full of feckless losers.

>all of that works right up until someone uses force
Then it continues working after the aggressor has been physically removed.

>Whoever's best at organized violence wins
Wins what? You can't eat bullets. The USSR was far better at organized violence than the west but it was such a bad place to live they had to build walls to stop people from running away. Voluntary cooperation always outperforms slavery in the long run.

>>1242
Dude, read the rest of the thread, he'll just ignore you and claim "victory." You're being played.

>>1246
That looks like what he's doing!

>>1224
Great. Now the neonazis even have nonsensical AI replies.

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>>1225
<muh AI
Seethe harder brownoid.

>>1226
What I'm saying is I don't understand who or what you're even replying to in this thread. You just came in ranting about niggers like a lunatic.

>>1226
Also, while I'm at it, just say nigger. It's a perfectly acceptable word. "Brownoid"? If you're going to be racist, then fucking commit to it. Do it with a hard R, too.

>>1224
><become an agent of the system before telling us how to be against the system!
Being self sufficient is the opposite of being an agent of the system. You're the one who would starve if the system stopped giving you free money.

>but i'm white so it's ok
You're a parasite. A black man who trades value for value is superior to you who leeches from other people.

>>1216
Addendum
I probably fucked up details in this explanation. Maybe it's not a year. Maybe even Intelius can't "show" your old results anymore, or Intelius can't either. But the fact still remains that there is essentially a shell company data shuffling game going on. Just keep the bigger picture when you're listening to shitposters on chans and thank you for subscribing to my podcast.

You know, why is capitalism so fucking bad at defending itself? Facebook is DARPA's Lifelog. Snowden proved that every dragnet is government funded. Media collusion turns out was a giant USAID circlejerk.
Meanwhile, capitalism is the one providing Privacy.com, using cash, Protonmail, E2E encryption services, Blur, addy, 33mail, VPNs, etc..
Capitalism is doing everything it can to protect privacy, the government is doing everything it can to destroy it, but it's called "surveillance capitalism" and orgs like the EFF blame capitalism when ISPs lobby the government for regs in their favor?

Larry Ellison says AI will enable a vast surveillance system that can monitor citizens.

Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle, shared his thoughts on AI during a recent meeting.

Oracle, a software company, is aggressively pursuing AI projects.

Walking down a suburban neighborhood street already feels like a Ring doorbell panopticon.

But this is only the start of our surveillance dystopia, according to Larry Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle. He said AI will usher in a new era of surveillance that he gleefully said will ensure "citizens will be on their best behavior."

Ellison made the comments as he spoke to investors earlier this week during an Oracle financial analysts meeting, where he shared his thoughts on the future of AI-powered surveillance tools.

Ellison said AI would be used in the future to constantly watch and analyze vast surveillance systems, like security cameras, police body cameras, doorbell cameras, and vehicle dashboard cameras.

"We're going to have supervision," Ellison said. "Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there's a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on."

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https://www.racket.news/p/bipartisan-coalition-finally-tells
It's finally coming out that most of this surveillance "capitalism" wasn't capitalism all along. Also,
>Twitter executives scrambled to explain to football’s cyber-bobbies that many of their suspects were black themselves, and tweets like “RAHEEM STERLING IS DAT NIGGA” were not, in fact, “hateful conduct.” (The idea that British police needed American executives to interpret sports slang is a horror movie in itself.
This is some great dark humor.  Their response to the British should've been "Nigga, please."

>>1190
>by a libertarian billionaire Peter Thiel
Peter Thiel is a libertarian the same way Joe Biden is a marxist.

>>1219
>why is capitalism so fucking bad at defending itself?
Most rich people are rich because of government connections, they are not capitalists. The last thing they want is to lose all their government influence and be forced to compete on the level playing field of the free market.

...mod, come on.  Did you delete a bunch of posts again?  :|

There once was a libertarian so bold,
Who claimed the free market was gold,
But then found one day,
Without roads to pave the way,
His ideas left him out in the cold.

>>1209
Did you ask an AI to make a limerick against libertarianism?

You know, this has got me thinking about what I'd call "form letter libertarianism." One of the problems _I_ see with libertarianism is--and I know this sounds incredibly conceited, but let me finish--the fact that it has an answer for everything.
>Minimum wage
<"Why $20/hr, why not $100/hr?"
>Ethics
<"If you did not agree with self-ownership, you would not be able to make that argument, so you are contradicting yourself."
>Who will build the roads?
<PRAs
>But what about the warlords?
<Private ancap security forces
It's gotten to the point where it's a fucking form letter. I swear you could make a simple Javascript site where you click a dropdown list of all the common arguments against libertarianism, and it populates a textbox below with the response to copy paste.
I've been in debates w/libertarians that feel like they're using a program like that. Where the libertarians are just block-quoting Rothbard or simply dropping a link to a mises.org/fee article and walking away. On the one hand, I understand it. It's this sensation of, "How many times do I have to repeat t

Interesting findings: 

Seeing Ron Paul/Mises/libertarian forums begin to criticize the GOP a lot more and now Vance is seen as a Thiel pick. I think we're coming back, bros. 

https://mises.org/mises-wire/republicans-declare-war-american-economy

>>736
Fuck off with your whataboutism tuquoque fallacy bullshit.

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>>732
>Their skills (lying and manipulating people) have no relevance in the free market
It's called "marketing."  It must be good because it has "market" right there in the name.

>>724
This aged well.  Sorry your girl lost.

>>1200
I'm glad they ignored the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 and instead Milei's advice and Musk's drive involved instead.

>>1063
Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Globohomo.

>>1063
>https://en.liberpedia.org/%E2%80%9CMises%E2%80%9D_Caucus
>The “Mises” Caucus is a PAC of the “Libertarian” Party which it took over in May 2022 [2]. It is not a caucus but a PAC, and it is neither libertarian nor related to Ludwig von Mises in any way. It is more accurately described as the “Hoppe Caucus” or the “Misnamed Caucus”. It is anti-libertarian, not libertarian. 
Fuck off and take your gay wiki with you.

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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un hailed Vladimir Putin as his "dearest friend" in a New Year's letter to the Russian leader praising close bilateral ties, state media said on Tuesday.

The two countries have deepened political, military and cultural ties since Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, with Putin and Kim repeatedly professing their personal closeness.

Moscow and Pyongyang signed a landmark defense pact during Putin's visit to the isolated North in June. The pact obligates them to provide immediate military assistance if the other is invaded and came into effect this month.

Kim's latest message described Putin as his "dearest friend and comrade," the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said.

The North's leader sent "warm greetings of best wishes to the fraternal Russian people and all the service personnel of the brave Russian army on behalf of himself, the Korean people and all the service personnel of the armed forces of the DPRK," it said, using an acronym of the North's formal name.

Kim also expressed "his willingness to design and push ahead with new projects" after their "meaningful journey in 2024."

In a possible reference to the war in Ukraine, Kim also hoped that 2025 would be the year "when the Russian army and people defeat neo-Nazism and achieve a great victory."

How tf have the meme responses not been posted yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taTXqTdYYUY

Big centralized unrestricted state. The state is sacred.
Private is bad, state owned is good.
Self-ownership is bad. Everyone belongs to the state.
Free market is bad. Everything must be regulated by the state.

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There's a pretty cool movie about greed

>>1142 (OP) 
Okay, I rewatched the 1972 cartoon because I was genuinely curious about this.
I noticed that it made a point that Once-ler Onceler exclusively or almost exclusively hired Oncelers for his Thneed business. It says at first that he hired his "family" which seemed to be a dozen with change at the very most. But then there are hundreds of them working the factories.
It seems like Oncelers are not human. They all have hidden faces and wear weird green jumpsuits. We clearly see the boy at the beginning of the story who looks like a normal human (by Seuss standards) so the story is clearly making an effort to differentiate them.
It's established that every Onceler is a motherfucker. In the establishing scene for the other Oncelers they're casually throwing garbage along the sides of the road while driving to Grickle Grass. Once-ler Onceler was also either unaware that the trees were exhaustible or in  complete denial about it because he was still blowing smoke about expanding while his tree cutters were just about done clearing out the forest. I think that the point is that Oncelers as a species have zero foresight about anything, like in a fantasy setting where every dwarf hungers for gold, or every elf is a tree hugger.
On a side tangent, I imagine Oncelers have no chin and look like Pac-Man ghosts from the neck up, or have the Ku Klux Klan hoods or something.
This may have been a c

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>>1146
>>The Lorax is used as the quintessential fairytale to attack greed
>Is it? 
Yes, of course.
>On a side tangent, I imagine Oncelers have no chin and look like Pac-Man ghosts from the neck up, or have the Ku Klux Klan hoods or something.
I think it more simply comes out of the spate of hacky movies and T.V. shows that never show the villain's face.
>I haven't watch the Illumination movie because I'm not a fujoshit.
lol
I have to tell you:  it's really bad. Like the propaganda is so fucking over-the-top that you'll cringe so hard you won't need a colonoscopy when you're older.
>Or maybe the cartoon was a bad adaptation. I don't know. Send me a PDF of the book and I'll tell you if I get a different message out of it.
Yeah, if you read any of the author of The Lorax' words about it, I'm p. sure he was just going 12304% watermelon environmentalist about it.

>>1149
Shame. I thought that the cartoon was surprisingly nuanced for it's message and presentation.
For instance, on my first viewing I thought that Once-ler's "if I don't do it, someone else will" line was his way to dodge accountability. Now I realize that he was true in a literal sense: any other Onceler likely would have gone down the exact same path that he did in his situation, he was just the one who found the trees first.

Make college illegal for women:
>Reduced economic friction between the sexes.  The economic dependency models between the sexes is restored.  The male dating crisis is resolved.
>Fertility rates are negatively correlated with female education levels.  Therefore, the demographic crisis is abated.
>Extra 4 years propaganda for half the population: gone.  The amount of female socialist ideology would be decreased dramatically.
We'll see whether this is true or not over the next few years in Afghanistan, since they're the only country who has done this.

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>>488 (OP) 
Learn it. Live it. Love it.

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>>1076
Divorce law needs to be brought up more frequently every time there's a discussion on fertility rates.  There needs to be a site like wtfhappenedin1971.com only with how terrible things have gotten to males w.r.t. divorces.
Also, the statistics of outcomes of individuals that grew up in single-mother households needs to be brought up more, too.

>>488 (OP) 
This video really makes me believe in the "empathy blocking" theory regarding female political opinions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzstEpSeuwU
Giving women suffrage really has destroyed the West.