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Why did libertarianism die so fucking hard since '08?
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>>1607
Having a hierarchal power structure is antithetical to libertarianism and slavery and wages and relgiion all go hand in hand. Only a fool would question this. It's not natural as we were hunters and gatherers for the majority of our existence and so this goes against our psychology, the ones that have automomous thought patterns and that can reflect anyway, the 50 to 30 percent with internal dialogs.
*autonomous 
*religion
>>1607
>The government was simultaneously operated by all three forms of government (monarchy, aristocracy, and democracy) as represented by their king, the house of lords, and the house of commons. For whatever reason, having all three function at once stopped any form from grasping full control. And it is almost like the negatives cancelled each other out, and so the nation got to enjoy the benefits of the positives of each form of government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers
I don't know if you typed all that instead of just saying "we used to have a proper separation of powers" because you found most people encounter it as a novel concept so you're trying to speak to the lowest common denominator, or because this isn't being taught in schools anymore.
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>>1606
Man, this post can be aggressively summarized. Let me do that.
>I agree. I would say that people realized that libertarianism, or freedom and liberty in general, can only exist as an in-group standard, but attempting to apply it as a universal standard can only lead to bad things. And I think a lot of anons realized there needs to be some form of power structure to support and protect it which is why to drifted into authoritarian ideologies (socialism, fascism, neo-liberalism, monarchism etc.) 
Only white men support libertarianism. So you need to stop immigration and/or enforce emigration and/or stop females from voting. So that made some people authoritarian.
>And I don't think they are completely wrong. Here is an observation I made recently in thinking about England, old England, which was respected by all the other European nations for its standards of liberty, rights, and freedom. So, the question I asked myself is why did it exists. From what I could see, if the England had a government/political structure that stopped centralization. The government was simultaneously operated by all three forms of government (monarchy, aristocracy, and democracy) as represented by their king, the house of lords, and the house of commons. For whatever reason, having all three function at once stopped any form from grasping full control. And it is almos
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>>1613
I could have used separation of power, but these days, it basically means "I want your side to have no power, even when it should, and my side to have all the power, even when it shouldnt". It like how separation of church and state essentially means "there should be no church, and everything should be controlled by the state". So, I just have to write like I am introducing new concepts so there can be no confusion.

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We'll see if that holds up.
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sure he does...
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>>1013
Yeah he doesn't
>>1013
I saw someone post this elsewhere like a week or two ago and thought it was a joke. Checked his website and had a good, long laugh. Hilarious to see WN dogwhistles in marketing.
>>1011 (OP) 
This didn't age well.
>JD Vance
literally who
>cellphone screenshot (of twitter?)
>bumping the news from 2024
homosexuality

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Why target Charlie Kirk, of all people? How could anybody feel remotely threatened by this guy? Were his debating skillz really that good? It just doesn't make any sense. I feel as though I am living in an alternative reality, that diverged from coherency sometime during or after the 2016 election. Or maybe, this has all been a fever dream. It just doesn't feel real, guys.
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How
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>>1495
Lighting
ya retard
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>>1497
Yet none of the white cops turn black dumbfuck
OMG HE GOT SHOT WHILE DEFENDING THE 2ND AMENDMENT.
>>1487 (OP) 
He's a Martin Luther King figure.
They made him to be a sacrifice. The problem is he started to go outside his programming and question certain "truths" so they may have pushed forward his martyrdom.

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Worldwide Drug Legalization is not happening, Austrian economics and Chicago school economics have been a massive waste of time. You're all bullshitting yourselves, it's been more than 50 years, free market economics cannot get through government policies or influence them. 
A "libertarian" NGO protesting every once in 5-10 years will never accomplish anything. Social conservative retardation continues with the anti-drug fearmongering. Nothing is doable, this state tyranny will continue until the world ends and no amount of voting, protesting, rioting will change it. 
There isn't even anyone to riot about it because the propaganda runs so deep into making what has been a relationship between humans and drugs for thousands of years into a taboo that any effort to push for change is either immediately opposed by the majority of the population (usually angry statist religious retards) or is eventually recriminalized and never protected by a constitutional law (like the case in Thailand). 

No amount of effort can put an end to these draconian laws or make society less retarded enough to know legalizing drugs won't destroy civilization. As long as democracy exists retardation will prevail and as long as states exist so will this repression. Worldwide market liberalization is a distant pipe dream, state repressions are a fact and they will remain as long as they see it fit to persecute drug users and dealers, ultimately this black market they create is also intertwined with th
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>Electing a politician will never give you freedom
...but like...isn't it pretty clear in Milei's case that Argentina is WAY more free and prosperous than what was happening before? Isn't there some qote from Rothbard talking about how if you have two bills you have to choose between, you choose the one that gives more liberty?
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>>1455
As long as the state exists there can be no freedom.
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>>1464
O....k.....? Are we talking about the same thing anymore? Why is your response a response to what I said?
>>1448 (OP) 
id be inclined to agree, thats why im influenced by vanguardists
>>1448 (OP) 
2 words: neurotechnology.

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I see libertarian sentiment slowly making a comeback while this culture war has been going on and reactionaries have routinely disappointed people by either going way too far or just being obvious grifts. The Mises people (Institute, not Caucus) are still going strong. This all has shades of the Paleo Strategy, which Murray Rothbard and Lew Rockwell would regret soon after the paleocons had irreconcilable differences with them and compromised on far too much.
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>>727
>did you read it?
No why would I read something that's more than 10 lines.

>libertarians can learn a lot from traditionalists something something theocracy
No. On the surface traditional values like family first, gender roles etc. are superior to progressive values like everyone should be a gay trans feminist. But then the jesusfags start talking about demons and nephilim and muh prophecy and everything-I-don't-like-is-satanism and you realize they are just as mentally ill and detached from reality as the rainbow cult.

In my mind they are equivalent at this point. If you want to cut off your dick and pretend you're a woman then go ahead. If you want to worship your childish sky daddy then go ahead. Either we work together on the principles of liberty and then you fuck off. Or you skip straight to fucking off part now. Either way I don't give a fuck about your so called "culture".

I do like your picrel though
>>702 (OP) 
The libertarian to fascist pipeline was just a psyop to get libertarians back into statism.
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"Libertarian/Fascist pipeline" was a crazy idea from the start.
>>702 (OP) 
While I've heard of the Libertarian to Fascist pipeline I've definitely heard of the Libertarian to Monarchist pipeline
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>>1562
While I've *never* heard of the Libertarian to Fascist pipeline I've definitely heard of the Libertarian to Monarchist pipeline. 
Made a mistake my bad

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>>980
you tracking down a nigger and using violence to get your car back is violating the NAP. The NAP is the most jewish concept I have ever heard in my life. Libertarians are cucks until they abandon this part of their ideology. Also in a truly libertarian society you would be steam rolled by jews so you'd have to be prepared to fight back to remain free, at all times, cause kikes are constantly scheming. So how does the NAP fit into that fucking faggot? 

Not to mention a libertarian society wouldn't work anyway with non whites.
In my opinion, the principle of non-aggression should only exist for living straight white men.
More specifically only for postpubescent heterosexual male homosapiens of non-jewish europoid-caucasoid indo-aryan nordic-germanic ethnicities, who must have pink nipples and either eyes or hair that are not black or brown in color. 

Anything and anyone who doesnt fall into the above category should be considered property, not people, they will not be protected by the laws of the NAP except in the capacity of being the property of one who does qualify for personhood.

However I may make an exception for postpubescent heterosexual males of the east-asian ethnicities, who may have non-pink nipples, and eyes and hair that are black or brown in color. Honorary status and all that.

All races other than the two mentioned above should be made extinct, especially the niggers and most especially the jews.
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>>634
Bro out here honestly answering questions like some sort of boomer virgin autist not realizing that this is a thread to just ignore these comments and post dank memes while ignoring each others' points.
Conversation is dead bro. lol. lmao, even.
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Even if we assume that animals for some reason have rights, you'd be hard pressed to argue that animals are capable of understanding and respecting human rights. And if animals don't respect human rights, why should humans respect animal rights?

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Why do "capitalist" megacorps support giant daycares for overeducated women?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lDTdLQnSQo&pp=ygUUbHVrZSBzbWl0aCBmYWtlIGpvYnM%3D
What is the libertarian solution for how terrible modern work is?
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>>1357 (OP) 
So you've finally figured out what feminism really is?
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>>1359
What a Jewish rhetorical question.
>>1357 (OP) 
>What is the libertarian solution for how terrible modern work is?
End the Fed. Without fiat money printing there is no funding for any of these zombie corpos that provide zero value to anyone.

End welfare. If women can't leech off the state then they will be forced to take family more seriously.
"overeducated". Lmao.

Literally a latent Islamist complaining about women having education and participating in the market economy lmao.

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>>1517
Are you poisoning the well?
>>1517
no
>>1517
Talking about the 'pdf file' is bad form to  real libertarians. It's the ultimate ad hominem to stop libertarianism in fact.
Thoughts on the Liquidzulu v. Dave Smith debate?
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>>1542
Dave Smith lost. He has very little understanding of philosophy to even understand the issue.

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Aren't libertarians in a key position to co-opt all the Boomer hate going on?
- Social security and medicare are a HUGE and OBVIOUS direct wealth transfers from young people to old people.
- Why is medical care so awful? Fucking old people's medical regulations.
- Who makes all the NIMBY laws to fuck over private property rights to keep home prices up: old people.
Like you can just go down the list blaming every absolutely terrible government intervention on Boomers. You can easily make the narrative of, "They destroyed the future when they were young, and now that they're old they're going to continue to do so."
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>>1323
It looks like all age groups trending together except on housing, Canada, and Trump. A weird trio, but our timeline has really been off the rails since the Kennedy assassination.
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>>1319 (OP) 
It occurs to me that you might be able to use Israel/Zionism as a wedge against boomers.
You want to support Israel? To afford that, we're going to need to cut social security and medicare.
Don't want to do that? Then we're going to need to tax someone, and the richest segment of the population is...boomers.
So, boomers, your money, or Israel?
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>>1323
>old want housing to stay expensive while young can't affod
<fuck you I've got mine! 
>federal budget 
<Now son lemme tell you(r)/government what to do about debt because I am so wise with shekels I earned from when times were good in yesteryear!
This shit make me  so fucken mad
>make canda have better healthcare but it's okay for it to not be a good place to live implicaton also
Well does that not just sum up how only the good die young? 
>>1322
It was an ad hominem thing. "If you don't vote right wing you are a pedo/mtf/racist/etc". Racist towards whites anyway, and also a misandrist. After they switch witches from left to right then what? lgbt bashing it appears, small group full of limp wrested men, easy target. They want to undo what boomers did in the 1960s but leave the feminist and nigger rights parts in that are the actual bigger problem.
>>1504
>You want to support Israel? To afford that, we're going to need to cut social security and medicare.
Doesn't work because they unironically think that when the government does stuff it is free.
https://archive.is/VKaD0
8 more years until social security bankruptcy.

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In the marketplace of ideas, libertarianism has fucking LOST.

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