/liberty/ - Austro-Libertarianism

>>1224
Great. Now the neonazis even have nonsensical AI replies.

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>>1225
<muh AI
Seethe harder brownoid.

>>1226
What I'm saying is I don't understand who or what you're even replying to in this thread. You just came in ranting about niggers like a lunatic.

>>1226
Also, while I'm at it, just say nigger. It's a perfectly acceptable word. "Brownoid"? If you're going to be racist, then fucking commit to it. Do it with a hard R, too.

>>1224
><become an agent of the system before telling us how to be against the system!
Being self sufficient is the opposite of being an agent of the system. You're the one who would starve if the system stopped giving you free money.

>but i'm white so it's ok
You're a parasite. A black man who trades value for value is superior to you who leeches from other people.

>>1216
Addendum
I probably fucked up details in this explanation. Maybe it's not a year. Maybe even Intelius can't "show" your old results anymore, or Intelius can't either. But the fact still remains that there is essentially a shell company data shuffling game going on. Just keep the bigger picture when you're listening to shitposters on chans and thank you for subscribing to my podcast.

You know, why is capitalism so fucking bad at defending itself? Facebook is DARPA's Lifelog. Snowden proved that every dragnet is government funded. Media collusion turns out was a giant USAID circlejerk.
Meanwhile, capitalism is the one providing Privacy.com, using cash, Protonmail, E2E encryption services, Blur, addy, 33mail, VPNs, etc..
Capitalism is doing everything it can to protect privacy, the government is doing everything it can to destroy it, but it's called "surveillance capitalism" and orgs like the EFF blame capitalism when ISPs lobby the government for regs in their favor?

Larry Ellison says AI will enable a vast surveillance system that can monitor citizens.

Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle, shared his thoughts on AI during a recent meeting.

Oracle, a software company, is aggressively pursuing AI projects.

Walking down a suburban neighborhood street already feels like a Ring doorbell panopticon.

But this is only the start of our surveillance dystopia, according to Larry Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle. He said AI will usher in a new era of surveillance that he gleefully said will ensure "citizens will be on their best behavior."

Ellison made the comments as he spoke to investors earlier this week during an Oracle financial analysts meeting, where he shared his thoughts on the future of AI-powered surveillance tools.

Ellison said AI would be used in the future to constantly watch and analyze vast surveillance systems, like security cameras, police body cameras, doorbell cameras, and vehicle dashboard cameras.

"We're going to have supervision," Ellison said. "Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there's a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on."

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https://www.racket.news/p/bipartisan-coalition-finally-tells
It's finally coming out that most of this surveillance "capitalism" wasn't capitalism all along. Also,
>Twitter executives scrambled to explain to football’s cyber-bobbies that many of their suspects were black themselves, and tweets like “RAHEEM STERLING IS DAT NIGGA” were not, in fact, “hateful conduct.” (The idea that British police needed American executives to interpret sports slang is a horror movie in itself.
This is some great dark humor.  Their response to the British should've been "Nigga, please."

>>1190
>by a libertarian billionaire Peter Thiel
Peter Thiel is a libertarian the same way Joe Biden is a marxist.

>>1219
>why is capitalism so fucking bad at defending itself?
Most rich people are rich because of government connections, they are not capitalists. The last thing they want is to lose all their government influence and be forced to compete on the level playing field of the free market.

Interesting findings: 

Seeing Ron Paul/Mises/libertarian forums begin to criticize the GOP a lot more and now Vance is seen as a Thiel pick. I think we're coming back, bros. 

https://mises.org/mises-wire/republicans-declare-war-american-economy

>>736
Fuck off with your whataboutism tuquoque fallacy bullshit.

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>>732
>Their skills (lying and manipulating people) have no relevance in the free market
It's called "marketing."  It must be good because it has "market" right there in the name.

>>724
This aged well.  Sorry your girl lost.

>>1200
I'm glad they ignored the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 and instead Milei's advice and Musk's drive involved instead.

>>1063
Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Globohomo.

>>1063
>https://en.liberpedia.org/%E2%80%9CMises%E2%80%9D_Caucus
>The “Mises” Caucus is a PAC of the “Libertarian” Party which it took over in May 2022 [2]. It is not a caucus but a PAC, and it is neither libertarian nor related to Ludwig von Mises in any way. It is more accurately described as the “Hoppe Caucus” or the “Misnamed Caucus”. It is anti-libertarian, not libertarian. 
Fuck off and take your gay wiki with you.

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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un hailed Vladimir Putin as his "dearest friend" in a New Year's letter to the Russian leader praising close bilateral ties, state media said on Tuesday.

The two countries have deepened political, military and cultural ties since Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, with Putin and Kim repeatedly professing their personal closeness.

Moscow and Pyongyang signed a landmark defense pact during Putin's visit to the isolated North in June. The pact obligates them to provide immediate military assistance if the other is invaded and came into effect this month.

Kim's latest message described Putin as his "dearest friend and comrade," the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said.

The North's leader sent "warm greetings of best wishes to the fraternal Russian people and all the service personnel of the brave Russian army on behalf of himself, the Korean people and all the service personnel of the armed forces of the DPRK," it said, using an acronym of the North's formal name.

Kim also expressed "his willingness to design and push ahead with new projects" after their "meaningful journey in 2024."

In a possible reference to the war in Ukraine, Kim also hoped that 2025 would be the year "when the Russian army and people defeat neo-Nazism and achieve a great victory."

How tf have the meme responses not been posted yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taTXqTdYYUY

Big centralized unrestricted state. The state is sacred.
Private is bad, state owned is good.
Self-ownership is bad. Everyone belongs to the state.
Free market is bad. Everything must be regulated by the state.

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There's a pretty cool movie about greed

>>1142 (OP) 
Okay, I rewatched the 1972 cartoon because I was genuinely curious about this.
I noticed that it made a point that Once-ler Onceler exclusively or almost exclusively hired Oncelers for his Thneed business. It says at first that he hired his "family" which seemed to be a dozen with change at the very most. But then there are hundreds of them working the factories.
It seems like Oncelers are not human. They all have hidden faces and wear weird green jumpsuits. We clearly see the boy at the beginning of the story who looks like a normal human (by Seuss standards) so the story is clearly making an effort to differentiate them.
It's established that every Onceler is a motherfucker. In the establishing scene for the other Oncelers they're casually throwing garbage along the sides of the road while driving to Grickle Grass. Once-ler Onceler was also either unaware that the trees were exhaustible or in  complete denial about it because he was still blowing smoke about expanding while his tree cutters were just about done clearing out the forest. I think that the point is that Oncelers as a species have zero foresight about anything, like in a fantasy setting where every dwarf hungers for gold, or every elf is a tree hugger.
On a side tangent, I imagine Oncelers have no chin and look like Pac-Man ghosts from the neck up, or have the Ku Klux Klan hoods or something.
This may have been a c

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>>1146
>>The Lorax is used as the quintessential fairytale to attack greed
>Is it? 
Yes, of course.
>On a side tangent, I imagine Oncelers have no chin and look like Pac-Man ghosts from the neck up, or have the Ku Klux Klan hoods or something.
I think it more simply comes out of the spate of hacky movies and T.V. shows that never show the villain's face.
>I haven't watch the Illumination movie because I'm not a fujoshit.
lol
I have to tell you:  it's really bad. Like the propaganda is so fucking over-the-top that you'll cringe so hard you won't need a colonoscopy when you're older.
>Or maybe the cartoon was a bad adaptation. I don't know. Send me a PDF of the book and I'll tell you if I get a different message out of it.
Yeah, if you read any of the author of The Lorax' words about it, I'm p. sure he was just going 12304% watermelon environmentalist about it.

>>1149
Shame. I thought that the cartoon was surprisingly nuanced for it's message and presentation.
For instance, on my first viewing I thought that Once-ler's "if I don't do it, someone else will" line was his way to dodge accountability. Now I realize that he was true in a literal sense: any other Onceler likely would have gone down the exact same path that he did in his situation, he was just the one who found the trees first.

>>1102 (OP) 
OP has been spamming threads for this entire past year about his weird interpretation of libertarianism. He also posted about imperialism being good. He's the 'faschizo'

>>1104
 Non-adults should have FULL NAP rights?
Like babies being able to work?

>>1108
How would you have a country unless you take land and defend it? right now there isnt much unclaimed land around.

>>1109
Imperialism isn't libertarian.

>>1109
>How would you have a country unless you take land and defend it? right now there isnt much unclaimed land around.
You're broken, man.

>>1109
>Non-adults should have FULL NAP rights?
>Like babies being able to work?
What do you think the non-aggression principle is? Of course you can't punch children and steal their stuff just because they're not adults.

"Able to work"? the real question is who are you stop them doing what they want to do with their bodies.

>How would you have a country unless you take land and defend it?
Most people already have land or the ability to buy some in a voluntary free market trade the problem is getting the government to fuck off and leave you alone.

>right now there isnt much unclaimed land around
You can't just "claim" land. For something natural to become your property you need to transform it in some way with your labor (homesteading). Most of what the government considers their property does not legitimately belong to them in a natural rights sense.

>>1108
Just because historyfriend is a fascist and a schizo and a tranny doesn't mean we don't love him.

>>934 (OP) 
>How did we go from everyone agreeing that guilds are a bad idea to just calling it "occupational licensing" and everyone protecting the idea?
Flip the chessboard around. You are a politician or bureaucrat, if you let the guild exist then you get a steady stream of votes, taxes and bribes. If you abolish the guild then you get ... nothing. Regulated professional bodies and occupational licensing is just an extension of the state getting too big and getting manipulated for private gain.

As for the people, it's just an extension of the nanny state
>we can't just let anybody be a doctor we have to make sure they are "qualified" it's for your own safety
>we can't just let anybody be a dentist we have to make sure they are "qualified" it's for your own safety
>we can't just let anybody be a hair stylist we have to make sure they are "qualified" it's for your own safety
You're talking about people who wore a paper mask and rubbed their groceries with hand sanitizer a few years ago. Disgenics is at a point where a significant number of people are too helpless to oppose the dominant narrative on anything.

>>941
>we can't just let anybody be a doctor we have to make sure they are "qualified" it's for your own safety
A licensed doctor removed an Alabama man’s liver instead of the spleen, resulting in “immediate and catastrophic death,” https://nypost.com/2024/09/29/us-news/florida-doctor-thomas-j-shakvovksy-has-license-suspended-after-removing-liver-from-william-bryan/

Friendly reminder that far-right don't hate the socialist state, they hate freedom:

>>>/b/220572
>Slavery was actually *mutually* beneficial. It's well known that niggers and indians are uncivilized; Niggers aggressive and violent, indians stubborn and self-centered. When we brought them to America, they were spared a life of hardship in undeveloped, harsh, wild lands filled with warlords and bandits. They instead got to live a comfy life with guaranteed pay for life in farm fields, homesteads, etc.

>>937
>one person on /b/ said that slavery benefited niggers therefore the entire far-right hates freedom and loves communism
Incredible, you truly are an intellectual heavyweight.

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>>928
>conservatives yes, nationalists, hell no.
Nationalism is certainly better than globalism. But if it's a choice between breaking things up further or remaining a "united" nation that's when we need to leave the nationalists.

>>738 (OP) 
>constant compromise with authoritarianism simply doesn't work
Both sides are authoritarian. The point you're missing is that one side is significantly more powerful than the other at the moment. That's why it makes sense to support the weaker side the balance things out.

>>939
Without an ethnostate "muh freedums" can't exist.

>>1078
>Without an ethnostate "muh freedums" can't exist.
Race is just a heuristic. I would rather live with a 110 IQ black person than a 80 IQ white person. If we filter all the high IQ, low time preference people who are capable of self governance into a single geographic area there will be large racial disparities but it won't be an ethnostate.

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>>1051
>The first debate was horrifying, and showed from before the official start of Kamala's campaign that she wasn't doing her job.
There's a theory that when they forced Biden to withdraw from the race he went off script by nominating Harris and after that they were stuck with her.

>What the hell was up with picking Walz?
They had to pick someone who wouldn't outshine Harris so the bar was extremely high.

>Currying favor from out-of-touch elite Hollywood celebrities.
They are the only people they could blackmail.

>Complete lack of ability to keep up with the current media landscape
It would have been worse for them if Harris had done more interviews because even the most blue pilled NPCs would not be able to deny she is a retard with nothing to say.

>She really fucked up with Rogan.
What's even more retarded about this is that Rogan is a Bernie Sanders socialist. If the Democrats weren't so obsessed with trannies and culture war bullshit he would have been on their side by default. They are the ones who snubbed him not the other way around.

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>>1053
>There's a theory that when they forced Biden to withdraw from the race he went off script by nominating Harris and after that they were stuck with her.
Biden 100% shadow campaigned for Trump.  Between the 'garbage' comment, his wife wearing red on election day, and the purple tie w/HUEG smile when Trump visited--he HAD to be behind Trump.
>They had to pick someone who wouldn't outshine Harris so the bar was extremely high.
Why did Trump have no issues picking a VP who outshines him, then?
>They are the only people they could blackmail.
kek

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>>1053
>If the Democrats weren't so obsessed with trannies and culture war bullshit he would have been on their side by default. They are the ones who snubbed him not the other way around.
I get the impression that all those "Body builders are far right extremists" articles pushed Rogan over as well.

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>>1055
A better example.

>>1054
>Between the 'garbage' comment, his wife wearing red on election day, and the purple tie w/HUEG smile when Trump visited
Also that video of him putting on a MAGA hat for some kids.

>Why did Trump have no issues picking a VP who outshines him, then?
Now that I think about it they probably knew Harris has zero chance of winning and didn't want to waste any of their "good" people on a lost cause.

>>1055
>Body builders are far right extremists
It is an accurate correlation though. Leftists hate fitness because it requires you to do the work as an individual. It requires discipline and self ownership. You can't just use politics to steal somebody else's gains. I actually got banned from /leftypol/ for saying this so it must have hit a nerve.

>>1037
Bro it's from his official website.  People can still criticize Trump without automatically being cock-sucking CNN-watching communists, they can even criticize him while still supporting him.
Section 230 bullshit:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/president-donald-j-trump-free-speech-policy-initiative
FISA court and whistleblower bullshit:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-president-trumps-plan-to-dismantle-the-deep-state-and-return-power-to-the-american-people
In better news, Mike Pompeo is NOT going to be in the cabinet!

>>1041
This and the Ron Paul forum are the only libertarian spaces that I know of and I'd rather post there than in any schizo'd out fascist board.

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>>1042
>In better news, Mike Pompeo is NOT going to be in the cabinet!
Nikki Haley too!

Yaaaaay, neocons get wrecked!

I've been speaking with friends of mine who supported Kamala, and am really surprised by how many of them aren't just surprised by Trump winning, but by Trump _crushingly_ winning.  There's a lot of, "How?" "I don't know anyone who supported Trump!" (I never told them) "Who are these people?" "Why were the polls so wrong?!" or just outright denial that Trump supporters exist at all.

At some point one has to realize that banning everyone off of your platform, deleting their posts, falsifying polling data, etc. is creating an echo chamber where you don't know what reality is anymore.  If you can't know what reality is anymore, you won't be able to function or plan your actions.  At some point, don't moderators, pollsters, and the media realize that they're doing this to themselves, and that it's in their best interest to have an American Glasnost?

>>1045
leftists: billionaires and corporations are evil scumbags who will do anything to make a profit
>also leftists: let me download today's news and talking points from my favorite billionaire controlled media corporations