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I'm kinda depressed by how people can't even agree that printing a fuckton of money causes price inflation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%932023_inflation_surge
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>>821 (OP) 
Actually, if you cook the money after you print it, it doesn't cause inflation. Most of our economic problems are caused by using raw money. Raw money contains pathogens that cause economic inflation.
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>>894
Basically what they believe.
>>821 (OP) 
>people can't even agree that printing a fuckton of money causes price inflation.
A lot of propaganda goes into making sure normies don't make the link between government spending and inflation. The only way they can sell a 20 year war in Afghanistan to voters is if they think it's not costing them anything.

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I've heard a theory exposited that I'd like to hear the opinion of other libertarians on:

The current rich elite are highly anticapitalist because they inherited their wealth from their parents without any work of their own.  This leads to psychological deep rooted feelings of guilt, paranoia, and fatalism.  This in turns leads to a high degree of self-hatred.  This self-hatred manifest as self-destructive behavior.  This self destructive behavior is the reason that trust fund babies are supporting socialist causes which undermine their own interests and the interests of others.

c.f. https://archive.is/0OU0i
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>I really do think something is different about the latest generation
Ok but why does it matter. Several generations of parents worked hard and made sacrifices to build up this intergenerational wealth and now some degenerate douchebag  is wasting it. It's none of my business. It's none of your business. It is BLM style propaganda. It is a tiny insignificant occurrence that they rub in your face because they know it will trigger you because muh injustice or whatever. The simple fact is that your wealth is your property and you can give it to whoever you want including your douchebag kids.

>>297
>My counter-point: socialism has always been bourgeoise. 
Thomas Sowell has a good quote about exactly this
>The Marxist constituency has remained as narrow as the conception behind it. The Communist Manifesto, written by two bright and articulate young men without responsibility even for their own livelihoods—much less for the social consequences of their vision—has had a special appeal for successive generations of the same kinds of people. The offspring of privilege have dominated the leadership of Marxist movements from the days of Marx and Engels through Lenin, Mao, Castro, Ho Chi Minh, and their lesser counterparts around the world and down through 
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>>306
>Ok but why does it matter. 
Because:
1 - These guys are my enemies, and I'm trying to develop a psychological profile to know them better so I can deal with them better.
2 - I don't want my kids to end up like this.
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>>311
>1 - These guys are my enemies,
The main enemy is the money printers and those that physically protect them. Everyone else is a pawn.

>2 - I don't want my kids to end up like this.
I would make it clear from the start that your shit is not automatically their shit. Teach them that they have to work for what they want. My dad was also very clear that I am out of the house when I turn 18 whether I'm ready for it or not.

You have to teach them how money and markets work as well though. The big trap for entitled middle class brats is that they will get high grades in school and then go to college and get a masters degree and then they graduate and don't magically get a high paying job. "But I did everything right why am I working at starbucks capitalism has failed". You have to teach them that they need to give value to get value. Show them how an electrician and a plumber with no higher education makes more than a phd astrophysicist simply because the work they do is more valuable to society and the market (when it is not too fucked up by government interventions) will reward that.
This is only very tangentially related, so sorry for necroing an old thread with this, but does home ownership correlate with support for capitalism?  The idea being that in order to be a capitalist, you have to have a stake in it.
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>>922
Post-election bump.

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when you cant sign up and/or post using a vpn to protect your privacy. I hate redditors so much.
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>>971 (OP) 
The whole english speaking internet is in lockdown because of the imperial elections and "muh russian bots". Things should ease up in a few weeks.
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>>981
so after the election I can use reddit on a vpn?
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>>988
Well, does it work now, or do you really still want to be on plebbit?

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It's so over
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>>1021 (OP) 
You unironically believe a fringe conservative journalist is telling Trump what to do.

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To all the groypers and natsocs, which politician is talking like this? 


https://ronpaulinstitute.org/why-should-we-fight-wars-for-ukraine-and-israel/

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Most 'ex-libertarians' weren't truly libertarian to begin with. The ones that went fascist were impulsive control freaks who want to mold society in their perfect image regardless of what anyone else wants. If you're about that, you're not a Libertarian. You're just a LARPing fagola.
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>>672
They try to post here and in other libertarian spaces to try and subvert. Don't let them.
we went fascist because we realized people get complacent and the only solution to that is an entity that is willing to fight for white identity 24/7 365. Until libertarians can answer the JQ they're a bunch of retards.
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>>992
Who the fuck is 'we'?
I don't understand how you can spend years criticizing state power only to think it's somehow the answer when there's no precedent for that.
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>>992
>Until libertarians can answer the JQ
Defend your property from all sources of aggression, jews or otherwise.

Fascists are the kind of niggers who will bend over for uncle adolf let him destroy your economy, rape your country, send you to die in a foreign war and then be like
>at least it's not the jews

>>996
>I don't understand how you can spend years criticizing state power only to think it's somehow the answer
They think that if "their" guys control the state then they can get what they want.

>when there's no precedent for that
The precedent is that the moment "your guy" gets power he's not your guy anymore and exploits you for his own benefit just like every guy before him. The state will never be on your side.

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WHEN THE FUCK IS THIS RECESSION GOING TO HAPPEN?!

The yield curve has been inverted for a record long time.
FED is finally inching down interest rates.
P/E ratios are INSANE.
Stock markets and prices are at all time highs.

WILL YOU FUCKING CRASH ALREADY?!
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>>824 (OP) 
it's not going to happen, they will just declare war on anyone who threatens to cast the us into recession by dumping the dollar. everyone in BRICS is a target now, just wait
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>>984
>After losing in Afghanistan and Ukraine, giving the latter most of their excess equipment
>After going all in for Yidsrael, earning the ire of the entire muslim world including Iran
>After military recruitment rates have fallen to an all-time low
>Weimarica will still have the means and will to enter wars with all the other economic powerhouses of the world simultaneously.
Anon, I...

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Libertarians blown the fuck out... how can they recover?
https://zerocontradictions.net/civilization/case-against-libertarianism
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>>591 (OP) 
I don't have time to read all this so if you want a better response then quote the parts that you find particularly convincing.

>The Libertarian Non-Aggression Principle is typically defined as an ethical rule prohibiting aggression (or actions that violate negative rights). But there are lots of disagreements among Libertarians regarding what the NAP prohibits, allows, and mandates since “aggression” is not clearly defined. 
The literature is very clear that the NAP only applies to property rights. People who try to argue that racism or misgendering is a violation of the NAP are confused leftists or agents trying to fracture the movement.

>Most libertarians are deontologists, so they view morality as a list of rules that shall never be violated. The justification for these rules is that at a macro-level these rules have consequences that cannot be considered at a micro-level. To put this in perspective, let’s take the example of lying. If a drug addict lies to a police officer about the presence of cocaine in his house, he can avoid getting arrested. But if too many people lie, then people won’t trust each other. Here the micro level concern is getting arrested, and the macro level concern is social trust. 
The NAP is only about when is it legitimate to use force against someone (e.g. they are stealing your stuff). That doesn't mean lying is a good thing or should be tolerated. If somebody lied with regards to a business transaction (fraud) then that is a form a theft and falls under the NAP. If somebody just lied and hurt your feelings then you have to find a peaceful way to deal with that. In most human societies once somebody gains a reputation as a liar they generally get shunned by their neighbors, which is perfectly consistent with the NAP. You don't have to associate with somebody you don't want to.

Like most criticism of libertarianism/anarchism this is not a brand new problem that humans have never had to deal with before. It is certainly not something the state can magically fix even if it tried.

>Negative rights require positive rights for their enforcement. The right not to be assaulted implies the right to justice if you do get assaulted. Negative rights requires positive rights to: the labor of the police, detectives, lawyers, and the entire justice system.
This is not true at all. You have the right to defend your property. You can enlist the help of others either voluntarily or through payment. If you're such an asshole that you cannot find any friends or family to help you then that is somewhat your fault. Although as the article says at the top but conveniently forgets to mention here, this is a simple problem to solve with insurance contracts. You don't have to pay the full price of a swat team if you offset the risk with premium payments.

>2.2. Every Existing Organism Can Only Exist At The Cost Of Another
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>>596
aggression can be clearly illustrates by the flashlight analogy.

shining a flashlight on my house should not be considered an act of aggression, but shooting it with a laser should be.

the diffetence being that one has a concrete effect on my property, the other doesnt. it is the fact that my property is being physically affected in a tangible manner that makes it an act of aggression.
>>596
covenant communities.

libertarianism is (almost) every other political ideology, too.

if you beleive that people should leave each others bodies and belongings alone unless the owner has consented to the other person physically interacting with them, then your ideology is covered.

go form whatever little society you want within libertalia or minarchistan/ancapistan.

if you own land, you get to set the terms for living on that land, and any libertarian government will enforce that by evicting the offender who breaks those rules just as they will enforce the nap by evicting those who break them from the society (such as by placing them in prison).

ancapistan will do things a bit differently since it lacks a cental authority to enforce its laws, but theyve already addressed itt how the goal would be accomplished in their society.

most likely you will have three levels of laws to deal with in any of these three utopias:
- the nap, that applies everywhere within its borders.
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Seemed okay when I first browsed it a few months back but since the elections started gearing up, the culture war BS is seeming to amplify
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>>785 (OP) 
It has gotten better.
they're based

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https://odysee.com/@RonPaul:d/why-does-john-kerry-hate-freedom-of:f
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrdUP23Hr4A

What do you think of the calls to legally identify and police misinformation?
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>>861 (OP) 
Walz said something similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8ns76RCmWs

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