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EDIT 9/17: APPLICATIONS ARE NOW OPEN FOREVER. FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT ONE AT ANY TIME.
I will leave the rest of the post intact, please ignore the special stipulations.

Hello and welcome to the fist round of BO applications for zzzchan. I will outline the application process below, along with some special stipulations for this first round.

To apply for a board, you must submit your answers to the following questions: 

1. What will the focus of your board be?
2. What will the rules be?
3. How would you handle the following hypothetical scenarios:
    A. A user who is only breaking the rules of your board has a substantial post history that is perfectly fine up until the single instance you are reviewing. What do you do?
    B. A spammer posts CP. What do you do?
    C. A spammer has slid your catalog and all unpinned threads are gone. What do you do?
4. What time range(s) would you normally be able to keep an eye on the board?
5. If your board becomes active enough, do you agree to look for one or more vol(s) to help you? Do you know anyone already?
6. Why do you want to be a moderator for this board?

STIPULATIONS FOR ROUND 1
- I will be taking applications for up to three boards, two of which are reserved. 
- The 2 reserved boards are /b/ and /tech/, the third can be anything else, though I'd prefer to hold off on porn boards.
- Applicants for /b/ do not need to provide answers to questions 1&2 or hypotheticals A&C. /b/ will be global rules only.
- /b/ & /tech/ will only be added if I get a good application for them. A lack of applications for either will not open another slot for a different board.

STIPULATIONS FOR ALL ROUNDS
- I am not looking to add /pol/ at this time. If this ever changes I will announce it.
- I am also not going to accept boards dedicated to more extreme fetishes. Nothing akin to /abdl/.
- I am not looking to poach certain boards that exist elsewhere on the webring. For example: as much as I'd love to have /k/ here I do not wish to split what's left of 8/k/ between here and anon.cafe.
- If I like you application but do not add your board in a given round, I will let you know and may even reserve a slot in the next round. Obsolete rule
- If your application falls a bit short I may prompt you to fill in the gaps. 
- I reserve the right to not accept boards based purely on their focus. This does not mean I will deny boards I have no interest in, such as /r9k/. I think variety is important for imageboards.

STIPULATIONS FOR ORPHANED/MIGRATING BOARDS FROM OTHER SITES 
- All Migrating/orphaned boards will be considered outside of the application cycle and should contact me at the same email address listed below.
- I will require proof that you are/were the BO/mod on another imageboard, or that the moderation team for the board in question has fallen apart.
- You must agree to follow all global rules for this site.
- You must agree to actively moderate the new board.
- If accepted, you must notify anons on the old board if it still exists. I do not mind If zzzchan is used as a bunker until a migration can be coordinated/ anons are comfortable making the switch. The new board will be unlisted in this type of scenario and will not be announced until ready.

Other than all that, I am now accepting applications at  [email protected]  , I look forward to your applications!
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I know you're not planning on adding /pol/ "at this time", but all the same, I'd like to apply for it. Shall I send you an email with my filled out application? Either way, I hope you'll retract that part some time soon.
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>>146
I'll take your application but /pol/ will bring more heat here than anything else. I want to at least get more in the way of contingencies  in place before I consider adding /pol/.


Also, I should clarify that I don't mean for applicants to post here, you only need to email me.
>>146
I think it would be better to have a /n/ - News board than a literal /pol/ board. /pol/ in name brings only underage retards and glow niggers. /pol/ is literally the entire reason for the webrings existence as hundreds of hobbyist boards on 8chan were wiped out because of retards fed posting on 8glows /pol/. The webring exists specifically so that every board doesn't get daisy chained because one retard fed posts his shooting spree.
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>>148
>The webring exists specifically so that every board doesn't get daisy chained because one retard fed posts his shooting spree.
That was posted on facebook, not 8glow.
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>>149
It was posted originally on faceberg. But it was also posted on 8glow. The point is that the webring came into existence so /pol/ fed posts don't impact other boards. Turns out no one on the webring especially gives a shit about /pol/ though so there isn't any site that hosts a /pol/ board. I think it's best practice to put as much distance as possible from the /pol/ branding. If you want a natsoc board there's already /fascist/. A board for current events is the only thing I think the webring needs, but I have no interest in listening to the edgy entry level political/economic opinions of teenagers and subversive kike glow niggers, which is all /pol/ ended up becoming.
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>>150
My point in bringing that up is that we are always targets. Julay should have proven just how bad things really are.
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>>151
It's not just about being a target for bad actors and feds. The very nature of the /pol/ atmosphere, rule set, and branding brings a flood of normalfags and glow niggers into a website. Even if it didn't get the site taken down it would have a noticeable impact on post quality. If you moderated it to be a natsoc board then it would be pointless since /fascist/ exists. So it would have to be moderated as a open discussion board, in which case non-stop bad actors would jump in to slide and shill day and day out.

I think variations of a news/current event themed board are a much better compromise.
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>>152
>I think variations of a news/current event themed board are a much better compromise.
I don't see how that wouldn't just devolve into /pol/ anyways
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>>153
Not being /pol/ in name would probably help with the spirit of the board. Of course the nature of it would probably still be "right wing", but I remember the guy in charge of Julay's news board that also ran /fit/ had a pretty good system that mandated threads be structured properly and be about news events. Obviously you wouldn't be banning people for expressing their political opinions, but with a good BO and clear rules to push the board towards higher quality and more structured thread OP's you can steer a board in a much better direction without having to be super strict on the posts themselves.

I find the approach of being strict on thread quality but relaxed on post quality making the most sense for a news style board.
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>>148
/n/ is good but won't it just become a board for linking kosher websites and youtube/bitchute videos?.

Also, don't make /pol/. They already have /fascist/ and that place is slowly becoming pro-pedophilia and pro-genocide.
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>>155
>pro-pedophilia
Somehow I feel you're probably misrepresenting this stance. I doubt people on /fascist/ are outright arguing for sex with prepubescent children.
>pro-genocide
It's called /fascist/ dude.
>/n/ is good but won't it just become a board for linking kosher websites and youtube/bitchute videos?.
It would depend on the person running it. I figure standard practices would apply where you archive, fill the OP with as many relevant images and videos as possible, make multiple well formatted quotes about the topic/article/video, etc.
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>>157
Last few days have been bizzare. I think some gang is doing this on purpose. I see an increase in "seethe, cope" and other cuckchan memes along with pedophilia.
They draw too much heat from their glow. They've already made enemies at other boards, which is how pretty much all popular /pol/ boards end up as.
Didn't want that to happen here.

Yes. Someone who has proper vision on how to run a news board and keep discussions civil can pull it off.
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>>137 (OP) 
>A user who is only breaking the rules of your board has a substantial post history that is perfectly fine up until the single instance you are reviewing. What do you do?
>A spammer posts CP. What do you do?
Man I really wonder how I should reply to this question. I think you're setting the standards on moderation too high if you want mods that can deal with those situations.
I mean, are you gonna be happy if I say I'd ban the first guy for 1 million years? I feel like that's the answer you're hinting towards.
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>>158
Anon.cafe's decision to let in those boards was weird since it was around the same time they claimed to not want to let in boards that didn't vibe with their ethos. I don't have a problem with /fascist/ but I just find it a bit ironic. I've always been of the opinion that if people can't put in the bare minimum amount of effort to disguise their language so it doesn't come off as fed posting they should have their posts deleted.

It really isn't that difficult to advocate for your edgy fringe positions without writing like a total fucking glow nigger. But I have experienced people on /fascist/ and /k/ calling that "cucking". Usually those people out themselves as cuckchan niggers in the same breath though. They're the kind of niggercattle narcissists that have no respect for anyone and the communities they share a website with. Not that I think this behavior is unique to those political boards, but the BO's of those boards really need to clamp down on fed posting type behavior.
>Yes. Someone who has proper vision on how to run a news board and keep discussions civil can pull it off.
A news board would definitely need a BO that was a cut above the rest. It should not be created lightly and probably shouldn't be created at all as much as I might enjoy having one.
>>159
Tom on fatchan said to global report CP then delete it. Not sure how Sturgeon would want it dealt with. Perma bans are meaningless against someone confident and competent enough to be comfortable posting CP on a clearnet site, or any site. They're mostly just a gesture and a good way to shrink the pool of tor nodes available. But I assume it's probably expected that you perma either way, which is fine I guess all things considered.
>A user who is only breaking the rules of your board has a substantial post history that is perfectly fine up until the single instance you are reviewing. What do you do?
This is a pretty context based question. I figure you're just expected to expand on your moderation style and get you writing a bit so one can gauge how retarded you might be.
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When is the deadline?
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>>158
I’ve seen those same types of posts with the same posting style. They are most certainly /cow/ niggers trying to false flag. The same kind was seen on julay/v/ soon after Tengu took over, and also on /geimu/ in a poor attempt to subvert. 
I think the webring should be ditched solely to get away from them. /cow/ is for some reason tenacious with their board and keep making new ones on the webring, so they arent going to go away. New users may be lost due to the lack of a webring tying IB’s together, but I think it may be worth it in the long run. I’ve scarcely met a more histrionic bunch of literally autistic faggots than /cow/, man.
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1. Hentai, specifically wholesome hentai. 
2. Above, anything not wholesome/ not neutral will be deleted
3. 
A.permanent ban
B.permanent ban
C.If I can limit the amount of threads created within a certain amount of time like lynxchan, this shouldn't be a problem. Jschan does have this feature, right?
4. I'm a neet, so anytime of the day.
5.sure, why not? If he's a faggot I will ban him too.
6. Because I don't like tranny.

The board url will be /hh/, which stands for wholesome hentai. I know that I have a board on 8chan, but lynxchan sucks and 8chan sucks, its full of faggot.
>>162
You can just block websites you don't want to be associated with in the webring.
>>163
of course my name is dickleson
>>163
>C.If I can limit the amount of threads created within a certain amount of time like lynxchan, this shouldn't be a problem. Jschan does have this feature, right?
There's a thread per hour trigger BO's can set to trigger a captcha or lock the board entirely, along with a PPH trigger as well.
>The board url will be /hh/, which stands for wholesome hentai.
This triggers my autism. You should call it /wh/ so I can call you /wh/ores.
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>>166
whole has the h sound in it, and its easier to remember.
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>>167
But /wh/ore is funnier.
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>>163
https://8chan.moe/wholesome/
I don't mean to discourage but what are you going to do to make sure you'll not end up with another dead board like your old place?
You won't be getting new users if you're a niche board and need to rely on users on popular boards come and cross post at your place.
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>>168
We can make up a better insult later, like being a whole is a good thing but whore is an insult.
>>169
I will manually replicate the current content of the old board and update it every time after I finish jerking off. 8chan has way too many boards unlike this place so it will catch more eyes. All hentai boards on webring now are either dead or filled with tranny shit, so I want to make a change.
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>>163
this nigger kept spamming his 8cuck board everywhere and he has two already
>>166
>This triggers my autism. You should call it /wh/ so I can call you /wh/ores.
/hh/ for heil hitler
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>>172
calm down ok
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>>171
>update it every time after I finish jerking off
I see. Okay.

>all hentai boards on webring
>PLW /d/
Pretty much dead. Broad focus.
>anon.cafe /cuckquean/
Active. Niche focus. Depends on 8chan's legacy for new users.
>anon.cafe /hentaiclub/
Active. Broad focus. Don't know where they get new users from.
>smug /yuri/
Active. Broad focus. Depends on smug /a/'s users.
That's it for webring.

Your focus should be here.
>8chan.moe
All hentai boards have good activity because of their history. They're delisted because it's pedophilia in some countries. They wouldn't exist without loli porn. Why didn't your place pick up? That's what you should think about for now.
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>>154
I don't think a news board that doesn't allow purely theoretical political discussion will work very well on a small board. And I don't think the news part is what most people wishing for a /pol/ are most interested in.
I think when /tech/ and /b/ are going to be added those will be enough enough for now. Political discussion can just be kept on /b/ as long as it doesn't produce enough threads to slide the rest of /b/. Same thing goes for anime and hentai. I'd really love to have some kind of /a/ or /jp/ but there so many alternatives already, so maybe just making a few threads on /b/ will suffice.
>>162
>I’ve seen those same types of posts with the same posting style. They are most certainly /cow/ niggers trying to false flag.
Glad it's becoming extremely obvious as they have done it so often already.
>I think the webring should be ditched solely to get away from them.
Yeah, the webring is a nice concept and most boards that are members are good people but then there also is tvch and whatever Julay is called now.
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>>159
>Man I really wonder how I should reply to this question. I think you're setting the standards on moderation too high if you want mods that can deal with those situations.
Literal idiot checks. 

>>160
>Perma bans are meaningless against someone confident and competent enough to be comfortable posting CP on a clearnet site, or any site. 
Precisely, permas are useless in cases with CP so I would expect a ban to be long enough to prevent reuse by the spammer while not condemning a tor node/vpn addresses. 2 weeks would be an acceptable length. You also need to explicitly delete the file.
>This is a pretty context based question. I figure you're just expected to expand on your moderation style and get you writing a bit so one can gauge how retarded you might be.
This guy gets it.

>>161
I'm going to call it closed at 8/21 at the latest. If I get enough good applications before then I will close it early and announce the new boards. Also, Applications can be submitted at any time outside of a round, they will just be reviewed from the start of the next round if selections have already been made. I don't plan on adding more than 3 boards per round.

>>163
You already have two dead boards on other sites and would be handing out permas for any breach of your rules, which are ambiguous. Your definition of  wholesome/ neutral is not defined in any way. I would expect you to at least list of some tags which would be banned. I'm going to have to politely decline this application for this round.
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>>176
>Your definition of wholesome/neutral is not defined in any way
Is that not enough for you? As in no cuck, no tranny, no furries,.. basically the same taste as smug /monster/ but with a focus on the porn/visual part.
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>>174
>delisted 
If you are watching porn with your bare ip youre a dumb nigger monkey. 8chan is really unwelcome to tor users which is why i want to bounce.
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>>175
>posting everything else at /b/
I've seen an idea at antares chan. They got a /v/ and a /misc/ for everything else. I think the site owner is ready to open new boards but they have to prove themselves, whatever that means. Place is quite dead though and most of activity is at /misc/.
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>>178
Guess your application got rejected.

In case you don't know there's endchan that's both tor friendly and has clearnet access. If you don't care about webring or 8chan's legacy for new users you can use that. Outdated software though.
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>>179
I think he required the topic to have an active enough thread, which seems like a little autistic way to put it but it's not a bad concept.
Haven't checked the site in a while, the .onion seems to be gone and I still haven't set up open dns, don't think it would play well with my VPN setup.
5 dead boards are harder to monitor than just one that is active, but not too fast. Going too much into the direction of /b/ for everything isn't good either though, if people get too used to that they will just post fucking everything on /b/ even when there's a dedicated board, like on kc which has a shitton of boards but two of them have all the activity. A fine line between chaos and boredom I guess. That would probably discourage people from using all of them.
And it might have positive effects not leaving /b/ to dedicated /b/tards.
>>180
the same shit that hinders tor users, ill stay in 8chan.
>>177
>Is that not enough for you?
<wtf why cant you read my mind???
>basically the same taste as smug /monster/ but with a focus on the porn/visual part
Do you somehow think that smug/monster/ doesn't have enough porn?
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>>183
/monster/ is not just a porn board, you know this. Posting normal hentai would be banned.
I don't know if there is much of an audience here but I really miss /film/.
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>>160
>>176
Its pretty obvious that Sturgeon wants no punishment on the first guy, although the exact answer (Deleting the individual post or just ignoring it). And its pretty obvious what you should do in case of CP.

>This is a pretty context based question. I figure you're just expected to expand on your moderation style and get you writing a bit so one can gauge how retarded you might be.
Disagree.
Due to law, there are no moderation differences on how someone should deal with CP, you just Ban and Delete it on sight.
Meanwhile the first question is cute but not enough to gauge moderation differences and the repeated "this guy has done NOTHING ELSE wrong", "he's a REGULAR POSTER on your board", its pretty clear Sturgeon doesn't want a punishment placed on the person in question.
So no, this doesn't gauge your moderation style.

But whatever, I was gonna say "failing this is going to be impossible even if you're a rulecuck to the max" but >>163 just answered both questions with Permanent Ban, so I suppose there really are people who wouldn't get the hint.
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>>186
+1. /tv/ is stinking shit and board at julay is on coma.
>>187
>Its pretty obvious that Sturgeon wants no punishment on the first guy
Not quite, the main reason to look at post histories is to see if it's a (1) stirring shit or not. if it isn't, a shorter ban may be appropriate.
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>>178
>8chan is really unwelcome to tor users which is why i want to bounce.
There are plenty of reasons to despise 8moe but despite Acid being an insufferable faggot he's made it one of the most tor friendly imageboards available. Even more so than this place considering we don't even have an onion, though obviously that's on Tom to get working on it.
>>180
Endchan is unbelievably buggy. I wouldn't ever call it a viable alternative to anything. It's borderline completely unusable.
>>187
>Disagree
Well considering he already said that's what he's doing here >>176 I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with. But now we're exposing his trade retard check secrets.
>Due to law, there are no moderation differences on how someone should deal with CP, you just Ban and Delete it on sight.
That wasn't in response to the CP question. It was in response to the guy who broke a board rule question. Also there can be a difference in a BO's understanding of how IP hashes work and why perma bans ultimately serve no purpose, as you can also read in the same earlier post I linked you.
>Meanwhile the first question is cute but not enough to gauge moderation differences and the repeated "this guy has done NOTHING ELSE wrong", "he's a REGULAR POSTER on your board", its pretty clear Sturgeon doesn't want a punishment placed on the person in question.
He already said that he isn't fishing for any specific response. I don't know why you're assuming all this shit when he's already explained his logic.
They're lurking here.
https://8chan.moe/wholesome/res/66.html
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>>190
>if it's a (1) stirring shit or not
>muh (1)
You dumb monkey, the id system here is completely wrecked. Every new post is a new id.
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>>194
Ok
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>>195
It works this time though, hmm. Used to get a new id everytime I posted.
>>193
It's a shame Codexx isn't the owner of 8moe. He's a cool dude and cares a lot for the site and community. Watching him put in work for BO's who would rather go somewhere else because of Acid and Mark is sad.
>>194
>>195
It's only a problem for tor really. I hope Tom gets onion support going soon.
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>>137 (OP) 
Aside from asking others what boards they wan you should ask yourself what boards you want. I've seen multiple imageboards shut down because the admins get tired of babysitting boards they don't like for users they grew to hate. You're the admin of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZchan, which means that you have to babysit every board on the site to make sure nothing horrible that could kill Z^3chan happens.
Regarding board suggestions, people ITT have mentioned boards like /film/, /tech/, /pol/, /n/ and /hh/, but if no real demand exists from them (aside from the few people suggesting them) they'll quickly become wastelands. Instead, you should add /b/ for now, see how things evolve in all boards, and then add more boards when there are enough people to sustain them (for example, making a porn/hentai board if/when porn becomes a big part of /b/ and /v/). This way you won't have boards that are dead most of the time, like how it happens on most imageboards with free board creation.

On an unrelated note, there's something on ZZZchan that increases my CPU usage in an estrange way that didn't happen on Zchan or any other imageboard (with the exception of PLW because their animated mascots were coded like ass).
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>>198

>Aside from asking others what boards they wan you should ask yourself what boards you want. I've seen multiple imageboards shut down because the admins get tired of babysitting boards they don't like for users they grew to hate. 

I've already stated that I want a variety of boards with a few exceptions and a preference for non-porn focused boards early on. zzzchan is not meant to cater exclusively to my interests. The entire point of running this process is to encourage anons to step up and give being a BO a shot. I don't want to be the only one in charge of the majority of boards on the site/bullying pasta into helping me do it since that severely limits how many can be added as our attentions are divided more and more. 

>people ITT have mentioned boards like /film/, /tech/, /pol/, /n/ and /hh/, but if no real demand exists from them they'll quickly become wastelands
I completely agree and I'd like to see some of those. One of the key ways I'm gauging interest in a given board is whether or not anyone applies for it. If one anon is willing to step up and offer to manage a board I figure that board has a better shot than if I just create it myself. So far I have received one qualifying application and it's not for any of those boards. I may have to make /b/ myself at this rate.

>On an unrelated note, there's something on ZZZchan that increases my CPU usage in an estrange way that didn't happen on Zchan or any other imageboard
I've noticed this too and I think it's the live update function. I haven't been able to get it through the proxy so far and if I cant figure it out I'm just going to disable it. We will still have timed thread updates.
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I'm new here & looking forward to seeing more boards added.
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>>158
Things aren't looking good at anon.cafe. I doubt they'd go back again to 8chan.moe if worst happens.

There wasn't any dolphin spam here for last few days right? Maybe they're busy with /fascist/.
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>>205
Another instance of cancerous /cow/s using the webring as their zoo.
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>>137 (OP) 
>1. What will the focus of your board be?
yes
>2. What will the rules be?
NO RULEZ LOL!
>3. How would you handle the following hypothetical scenarios:
>A. A user who is only breaking the rules of your board has a substantial post history that is perfectly fine up until the single instance you are reviewing. What do you do?
can't break the rules if there aren't any
>B. A spammer posts CP. What do you do?
b&d
>C. A spammer has slid your catalog and all unpinned threads are gone. What do you do?
such is life, but I'm a shaolin monk
>4. What time range(s) would you normally be able to keep an eye on the board?
potentially about 6-12 hours a day at cyclical random times
>5. If your board becomes active enough, do you agree to look for one or more vol(s) to help you?
>Do you know anyone already?
yes and maybe
>6. Why do you want to be a moderator for this board?
it's taking too long and nobody else is doing it

I'll have one /b/, thank you very much. Username is alexander.
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>>218
Looks like this thread is unlocked now. Since deadline is 21, I think there'll be a /b/ here by this week.
>NO RULEZ LOL!
How are you going to handle Chantopia nigger tripfaggots who'll come to /b/ and post about how much they want to fuck children and post jailbait then report the website to LEAs to shut it down? Cloudflare won't give second opinions and just kill this place. Those jobless faggots spend their whole life just shitposting.
>b&d
What is VPN, tor and proxy?
Do your fucking job retard, delete the spam.
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Please require everyone to clear a portion of Battletoads before they can post. Turbo Tunnel at bare minimum, Clinger Winger to ensure high post quality.
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>>340
I can't leave this site for a moment without some retard spamming it
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>>342
get more people to be board owner, disallow image posting temporarily,... simple as that.
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>>343
>>342
>>341
test, i may have found a solution.
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There are two hidden boards. One is /r9k/, but what's the other one?
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You know what I hate the most about Tom and zchan admin? Both of them were overtly optimistic about their abilities, both of them shut their sites down without sufficient prior notice, and kept silent as if nothing has ever happened afterwards. No update, no apology, just pretend like nothing has ever happened. If you couldn't even bother with maintaining a site, then don't do it in the first place. I am 100% confident that this retard here will bounce in 2 weeks, making the same mistakes as the other two.
>>354
>totally not concern shilling
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>>354
You never read the meta threads on fat. It was obviously going to get shut down, he didn't want to deal with shit like what was brought with /v/. If you had LURKED MOAR maybe you would have known that. It was set up so he could run a site running his software and get direct feedback in the process, while also gaining first hand experience running the software. He opened it up out of the kindness of his heart, not to be a bastion of security. Cut your head off then you're own.
>>353
picrel
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>>354
You've got to be fucking joking.  Third time's the charm, mate.
>>356
>sucking Tom's cock this much
Dude literally turned into a niggerpill retard claiming that imageboard is forever dead after the dolphin teased with him a bit. Kill yourself.
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>>358
Tom Internet Defense Force here
yeah, dude got dejected. if you didn't see the site going down before it went down that was because you failed to lurk. newfags are cancer. lurk moar
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>>359
>newfag
Nigger I was there since day one till its death. Tom is a total bitch.
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>>360
no you weren't
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>>354
Tom bullshitted about being able to handle whatever was thrown at the site, sure. But you keep pretending to be retarded and conflating sturgeon with the previous guy running zchan. Sturgeon was more than communicative after zchan went down with his plans to bring up a new site, and then proceeded to follow through. What do you want people who weren't responsible for the shutdown of old zchan to apologize for? You can go try to find the unknown nameless admin of old zchan yourself and beg him to atone for his sins I guess.

Also Tom was not "silent" after fatchan's shut down. He responds to emails and even posts here. He still engages with the community and helps people running instances of his site. I feel like you're being as uncharitable as possible with your expectations of people running imageboards as a hobby out of pocket.

I'm not sure what you're playing at here bud.
>>356
Tom did kind of bullshit about the lengths he would go to keep the site running. It is what it is. I like Tom and his software but that abrupt shutdown after boasting about the fallback plans he had was pretty retarded.
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>>362
Sure, I'll concede that. Toward the end there he was retarded with his representation of himself or rather with his willingness to deal with all of the shit. These assurances seemed to go against what he was saying earlier - being a guy that works freelance I guess who just wanted to run a site, not necessarily trying to make a statement or prove a point. I think he got in over his head at the end there but idk I'm just a fucking retard who watches doers do shit.
just get really fuckin mad when I see his name tarnished
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>>354
>Fatchan
0 protection until the very end where we finally got a half-assed implementation of cloudflare
>Zchan
Same as fatchan, but even worse attempt at getting cloudflare to work
>Zzzchan
BEHIND 7 PROXIES
HIDDEN HOST
CLOUDFLARE PROTECTION ON DAY 1, ALREADY PLANS TO GET VANWA
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>>367
>BEHIND 7 PROXIES
yike
>CLOUDFLARE PROTECTION ON DAY 1
literally the same shit as tomchan and zchan, which failed spectacularly
>ALREADY PLANS TO GET VANWA
Repeating the same shit as 8chan I suppose, pot calling the kettle black. Time to move back to blackedchan I guess, at least I don't have to wait 10 mins to load the site.
<<369
>trying this hard
>doing this poorly
Goons really aren't bringing their best.
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>>370
>he mad
>>361
>no you
>>356
>picrel
After 15 different attempts at guessing the board I finally got it. A shame it's another bunker board.
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>>382
Shit, didn't mean to be that obtuse. I figure maybe I should make it visible for a few days for the sake of transparency so anyone who cares isn't stuck wondering.
Had it as a bunker on fat along with another board that wasn't, but the other board, /vr/, would be redundant here and it doesn't seem warranted at all so I didn't ask for it.
>>162
They raid everywhere, regardless if its webring or not. Just a few days ago they sacked a jp-based IB with wojakspam, dolphin spamming CP with a bot and reports to their canadian registrar. It's not old /cow/, it's fucking goons wearing its dead skin.
Can someone apply for a random board? We need one.
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>>432
I just got someone for it, soon.
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/b/ is here!
https://zzzchan.xyz/b/index.html
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>>433
>>441
Very cool. Has someone applied for a /tech/ already as well?
The strip filename function is completely broken yo.
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>>446
https://gitgud.io/fatchan/jschan/-/issues
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>>447
nah, come here and read it tom.
>>137 (OP) 
So to save me the trouble of making an application that'd you'd throw away immediately anyway, would you be open for a /mon/ board? I know that it's a bit derivative, but the last board had some pretty decent discussions before it was killed.
Replies: >>498
What's the status on my /tg/ request?
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>>496
I'm dumb and never actually sent my response, sent it just now

>>453
I'm not familiar with /mon/, is it a derivative of /monster/? fill me in.
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>>498
Pokemon discussion, also other related stuff like Digimon, SMT, Yokai Watch, and so on. It encompasses all aspects of the properties, not just the video games.
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>/tg/
Why?
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>>517
>>(board I dont like
>why?
Nice
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>>524
You're retarded, aren't you.
/tg/ is alive and well, it doesn't need a second board here.
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>>525
>/v/
Hmm
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>>526
>Implying /v/ in the same situation as /tg/
Please be joking
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>>527
The logic seems the same to me. Now don't you have some meido IRC or discord channel or cafe stream to be infesting by now? Shoo shoo.
Well if a actual person wants to explain to me if this /tg/ is here for a important reason or at least just as a backup, be my guest.
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>>137 (OP) 
Request a /fit/ board
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>>137 (OP) 
I've updated the op, applications are now open forever.
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>>649
What did you do?
Why are they all here?
Don't tell me you advertised the site somewhere on that shithole.
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>>654
I have never posted on 8moe. I had to step away for a bit and I'm as suprised as anyone else.
>>649
Maybe make this a news post
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>>659
I'm trying but I keep having to make it longer.
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>>660
Why tho? The simpler the better. I don't mean to lecture but I'm gonna lecture the more fat you can cut the better the post especially if it's news. Your news posts aren't particularly fat or anything but yeah it doesn't seem like it would need a lot of text. Definitely less than this post you're reading.
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>>661
I mean new shit keeps happening that I need to mention.
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>>662
Oh duh no shit. Thanks sturg.
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I'd like to request to make a /fit/ board, I made a request on anon.cafe but seems like the owner isn't replying or doesn't care about new boards for now.
>What will the focus of your board be?
Health and fitness, gainz, etc.
>What will the rules be?
Keep shit on topic with above mentioned criteria, spoiler porn, don't be a dick
>How would you handle the following hypothetical scenarios:
>A user who is only breaking the rules of your board has a substantial post history that is perfectly fine up until the single instance you are reviewing. What do you do?
delet the single post, leave the others alone
>A spammer posts CP. What do you do?
delet and permaban
>A spammer has slid your catalog and all unpinned threads are gone. What do you do?
cry, then ask site owner if he had backups, restore from them if they exist, otherwise attempt to remake the threads that existed
>What time range(s) would you normally be able to keep an eye on the board?
Evenings on weekdays, most/all day on weekends
>If your board becomes active enough, do you agree to look for one or more vol(s) to help you? Do you know anyone already?
Yes, I would make a public appeal for applications and set up an email for them to be sent to.
>Why do you want to be a moderator for this board?
Because I miss talking about lifting with my fellow /fit/izens and there's no way I'm going back to 4cuck or jimbochan
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>>671
>A spammer has slid your catalog and all unpinned threads are gone. What do you do?
Kind of a counter-intuitive question. Should make sure each BO understand how to configure jschan's board PPH captcha triggers instead of just asking what they might do after the fact. There's no reason a boards catalog should get raped if the board is configured properly.
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>>671
Seconding this request, I'd post on it.
>>671
I like it, shoot me an email and we can get you started.

>>672
Not a bad idea, I should make a guide.
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>>674
Mostly just about making sure they set it at all. You would assume every BO would do that but seeing the number of boards get wiped or fucked with because BO's just didn't bother to do it has proven otherwise.
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>>>/fit/ is now open for business!
>>545
Please turn this into a banner.
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>>683
Why don't you do it you stupid nigger
We should have our own /a/ for the sole reason that is tor users are allowed to post file here.
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>>695
there are already like 10 active /a/ around
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>>696
call it /am/ - Annie May
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>>697
/4am/?
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To apply for a board, you must submit your answers to the following questions: 

1. What will the focus of your board be?

/co/. The focus will comics and cartoons. 

2. What will the rules be?

No threads made about anything besides comics, cartoons, and news and figures related to both topics. No porn. 

3. How would you handle the following hypothetical scenarios:
    
A. A user who is only breaking the rules of your board has a substantial post history that is perfectly fine up until the single instance you are reviewing. What do you do?

Give them a warning and if they break the same rule again, ban them for 2 days. 

    B. A spammer posts CP. What do you do?

First, delete all the posts and permaban the poster IPs. Then, notify admin.

C. A spammer has slid your catalog and all unpinned threads are gone. What do you do?

Delete all threads and sticky an explanation. 

4. What time range(s) would you normally be able to keep an eye on the board?

9am to 1pm EST.

5. If your board becomes active enough, do you agree to look for one or more vol(s) to help you? 

Yes.

Do you know anyone already?

No.

6. Why do you want to be a moderator for this board?

There are no /co/ boards at all on the webring as far as I know. Certainly not any active ones.
>>712
Not sure how to identify myself. created a trip and put my email in the box.
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>>713
oops, glad I didn't put a real password in the trip
>>712
I was just thinking about how much I wanted there to be a /co/ on the webring to share story times and good art with.  The downfall of old /co/ boards was the overlap between the userbase and tumblr/4chan/general leftist leanings; there are some old caps I was rereading recently, and people in them actually say things like "I wouldn't have a problem with the gay characters if they were written well."  It's surreal to realize that there were large populations of people like that on old 8chan only a few years ago.
>>712
>There are no /co/ boards at all on the webring as far as I know. Certainly not any active ones.
There's one on cakechan, it's really slow but the BO is cool and there's a Hillbilly storytime going on at the moment.
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>>716
how about you fuck off back there then you stupid nigger
>>712
I don't mind you posting your application here but please send me an email as well, I need some sort of concrete way to contact every BO.



 I have also been remiss in outlining a few things regarding the moderation tools of the site, and how I've decided I want certain scenarios handled.

Regarding the spam/sliding scenrio, All boards have whats called a post per hour and thread per hour trigger that can be set differently. You can set behavior for when each trigger is hit, up to locking the board if desired. 

TO HANDLE ANYTHING ON THE SAME LEVEL OF CP 
This should be handled in a couple of steps, and will allow me to take the ip of a given spammer and complain to whatever vpn they are using. Once tor is working SOON  you can simply purge anything posted via tor.
1. Delete the files but not the posts.
2. Take a screencap/record the ip hashes of the offending posts and send them to me. A picture is strongly preferred
3. Delete all but one/a handful of the posts and global report the remaining ones with a note to me so that I can get the actual IP behind the post and act accordingly.

And as always, if shit is getting bad feel free to email me. It's been very calm since changing the captcha but I'd encourage all BO's at least to get on keybase and set up a dm with me as that is the fastest way to get a hold of me in an emergency. You can find me on keybase as sturgeonfish. There's also minds but that's only going to be used for public announcements outside of the site: https://www.minds.com/sturgeonfish/ .
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>/tg/'s admin is his board to run retarded shit about smugloli/tg/ without proof
Oh please.

>>716
>but the BO is cool
He's a retarded cunt. Also, 8moe isn't part of the webring.
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>>725
>He's a retarded cunt. 
Frank set up a clear line of communication outside the board and somewhat regularly responds in the meta-thread when needed.
That's better than the previous BOs /co/ had outside of maybe the first one.
> 8moe isn't part of the webring.
It isn't,but everyone on the webring knows how to access it and fitting the general umbrella of "former 8chan demographic", it might as well be.
Also I doubt there are enough /co/ anons to go around for two boards and Frank isn't enough of a faggot to drive the sub two digit userbase to another exodus.
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>>726
Anon just trust me and let zzz/co/ happen.
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>>727
it's gonna end up being another dead board like /tg/, really no reason for it to happen unlike /fit/ and /x/.
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>>729
I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong because it will potentially be dead, but stop implying moe/co/ matters. We could have a decent, if slow, board.
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>>730
The last /co/ on the webring was a ghost town almost a week in, what makes you think this one's gonna be any different?
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>>731
Because I didn't know there ever was any /co/ in the webring.
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>>732
Julay/co/ was set up at the early days of the webring back when Julay allowed board creation, it had less than 10 threads and I don't even think it went up to 100-200 posts overall.The most I remember about it was the BO having Nightwing on the meta thread proclaiming the rules.

Do you think there have been a significant increase in 8/co/ anons since then? Or a particular demand for one or noticed any anons that it will provide a home to?
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>>718
>keybase
Owned by chinks, not fully open sourced.
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>>733
I remember a few people asking for a /co/ board on /tg/ but never doing anything about it, which I thought was interesting. Other than /tg/'s meta thread(which refuses to use 8moe), I know Frank left multiple (USER WAS BANNED BY THIS POST) warnings in certain pro-comicsgate posts, even if they weren't bad or didn't otherwise break the rules, so I assume he was also running people he didn't like out of the board. 
So that's why I think there has to be a userbase somewhere.
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>>733
>that .webm
The left truly can't into art
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>>734
>Owned by chinks
news to me, but:
>not fully open sourced
the client is open source and by all accounts everything is secure when it leaves the client. If anything could be compromised at the server side then literally nothing is secure. If you have a better recommendation I'm all ears. We were using tox back of fat but having to remake the group chat every day wasn't feasible.
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>>736
shut the fuck up, I grew with that and I turned out just nigger
>>739
Didn't the Zoom company buy keybase?
>>739
A private XMPP groupchat with OMEMO enforced could probably suffice.
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>>718
>There's also minds but that's only going to be used for public announcements outside of the site
Did they change their policy to disallow viewing without an account recently?  I'm pretty sure I was able to see your profile without logging in when you first made a profile a month or two ago.
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>>752
They did, so i made a pleroma account: 

https://freespeechextremist.com/Sturgeonfish
>>137 (OP) 
/co/ board inbound.
>>137 (OP) 
Hey, manbat here. Can I get mod privileges on /co/?
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>>776
check these fucking trips bro
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>>777
Good Digits on a slow board is like winning a lottery with only one participant.
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>>778
spoke like one who participated in such a lottery and lost lol
ok bb i sent you an email
I'd like to complain about the competence of /fit/ mod. I had written down a wall of text detailing why I personally think nofap is a pathetic movement and the mod just up and deleted it because it clearly hurts his feeling. He made it clear to everyone how nofap is the he best thing in the world by throwing shit like "hur dur porn is gud I swear" shit the first thing you visit the board, completely ignore all the other reasons being stated. I thought this place value honesty and freedom of expression? I want you to replace the /fit/ mod with someone else who isn't a complete beta male please, otherwise going back to 8moe would be the better option for its pph alone. Hugbox fucking shithole.
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>>815
I hope this is a copy pasta.
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>>816
Fuck no I'm angry.
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>>817
I don't know what you expect then. If the BO of /fit/ has established beliefs that he wants as core tenants of the board, in this case nofap being objectively good, then that's just how it's going to be. I very much doubt sturgeon gives enough of a fuck to interject on something this nuanced.

I'd agree it's pretty shitty if you made a high effort good faith post about why you disagree with nofap. But considering your post here is filled with retarded concern trolling like "I thought this place value honesty and freedom of expression?", I question if you're really operating in good faith. Sure the general spirit of imageboards might be in favor of freedom of expression, but no individual board owner is obligated to any such standard. If someone made /fascist/ for example, I wouldn't want them to be forced to allow incessant retards complaining about how terrible fascism is constantly.

But maybe you're entirely justified in your criticism, I guess I'd need to see the post to know. Either way, tough titties bruv.
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>>818
>the mod is always right 
Good to know that when facing reality, you act the same way robi protecting hanging_flesh. A bunch of scum fuck butt buddies thinking they are better than the average anon. Do you have a discord we dont know about too? Kill yourself.
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>>819
I'm not site staff retard. Anyways, I went ahead and checked your claims of 8moe's /fit/ being higher PPH. This was alright bait but you aren't getting much more out of me.
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>>815
>>819
>get rid of people I don't like or else I'm going back to 8cuck because muh pph
lol later fag, enjoy your jewcy fed honeypot
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>>137 (OP) 
you are updated in the directory
best of luck!
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>>823
what directory
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In a dazzling fit of rage, the /fit/ mod made the mistake of banning all tor users from posting on the site. LMao he mad
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>>825
At least it's a 1day, I will prioritize setting tor ids to 000000 asap since he didnt seem to recognize the hash.
Can we ban any mention of plw here? The more we avoid those cucked simps the better.
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>>829
What's your problem with them? /geimu/ kinda sucks and I wouldn't want to use it as a /v/ replacement but there's nothing wrong with /animu/ or the site per se.
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>>830
>responding to d&c goons
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>>831
>PLW retard complaining about D&C as he shits on zzzchan
>>830
>animu
>vwhores thread always at the top
>disgusting furries shit everywhere, kemono is ok 
>no quality control, mods dont care anymore
>trap, faggot pic dump
>eden
>lolreron is a shit nigger
>tor cant post file
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>>833
not being able to post pics through tor is my biggest gripe
>>833
The kemono thread has been there since the beginning though.
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>>833
The /animu/ kemono thread is genuinely one of the most pleasant, stable, and on-topic threads on the board.  What's the matter, anon?  Don't you like fluffy tails?
>full of shitposts
Ironically not as true as it used to be (at least outside of the "meta" thread, which is shitpost central) ever since the retarded portions of the user base went crawling back to 8glow.  It's quite slow, but it's a decent cultural alternative to /a/ and there's no reason it ought to be stricken from the records.
>eden
A true cocksucker of the foulest order.  Genuinely one of the dumbest, most arrogant mods/BOs I've ever seen anywhere.
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>>857
>Ironically not as true as it used to be 
The current BO refuses to clean up /tv/'s or /cow/'s garbage spam, very few posts are about anime anymore and the only decently active part is the scanlation thread and the current population feels more like the retarded parts of /v/ than /animu/ as I remember it.
I don't get the point of lolreron leaving the board to Staz if he's just going to abandon the site not even a month in.
The nigger won't communicate in any way nor did he even bother to get staff from the other boards to clean up basic spam for him. Even an hour's work would improve the situation by a country mile.
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>>858
>refuses to clean up spam
Oh, yeah.  I usually only post in the kemono thread, so I hadn't noticed that, but that is inexcusable.  /animu/ really had a hard life.
>no communication
Maybe you should make some "spam" threads yourself and ask him what he's doing?  If nothing else, it would get people's attention and spread the word.
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>>858
>>857
why the fuck are you niggers arguing about plw here? there's a meta board there too.
>>859
Issue is that even other BOs don't get any feedback from Stazi. The last message he posted was on /meta/ three months ago, almost a week in getting the board himself.Spam won't fix it, as that shit is already being spammed there and site-shill threads have stayed up for weeks.

The frustrating bit is that some of the BOs of slower boards would be willing to clean up, as being regulars on /animu/ was part of the reason they made the boards there in the first place. It is genuinely disheartening to see that quality threads with a slow spell get slided off by /tv/'s retardation and Lolreron won't use his site admin authority about it until it slides off the stream thread itself.
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>>861
then get a board here and shut the fuck up
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>>862
we're trying fag and no
There's been a request put in already.
>>137 (OP) 
Admin please add an onion-location header
with http://whatever.onion$request_uri
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>/japan/
Fuck yeah, great to see! I haven't expected that. Now really all that is missing is a /t/ech board.
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>>868
needs politics and anime
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>>869
>anime
Already 2 active anime boards in the webring, that would be silly.
>politics
Maybe, I think it should be called current events or news or some shit instead.
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>>869
please do not attract /pol/tards
maybe make a news board if a politics board is really needed
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>>874
Shut up Jew.


tvch''s /dup/ is where most of the political discourse is going on.
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>>870
The legacy name is important, it brings attention - some bad, but mostly good. I think it should be withheld until after the elections (or, rather, after Trump secures his second term) otherwise you really will invite the bad actors.

With that said, I'm going to send you an email with an application for /moonman/. There was one on 8chan but it never got restored on 8kun, and with Ron gone, it's unlikely anybody will ever fulfill my request to get it returned so I can scrape what was once on it. I'll shed tears for it later. For now, I am hoping you'll consider my request. 

For those wondering, there won't be actual political discussion threads in the board, it will be focused on making moonman videos, how to edit, TTS, suggestions, lyrics, etc etc. I think it's a venue of entertainment we've been missing. Cooking up the application now-
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>>898
>The legacy name is important, it brings attention - some bad, but mostly good.
It only brings bad attention, you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise. It's not important in the slightest to create an overtly political board with the name /pol/. A /n/ - News & Current Events board is in my opinion not only the best compromise, but likely to foster an even better version of old 8chan /pol/ and the quality it offered, which was news threads. But since I'm not willing to run such a board myself those are just opinions for consideration.
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>>899
The name of the board can really come second in considerations - the main thing to decide upon is how the board would be governed. I initially thought it'd be best to put thread OP quality under the biggest scrutiny, while inter-thread posts can enjoy much more lenience. Then I got the idea it could still be abused this way, despite the intentions, so maybe it would be best if, just like old 8/pol/, that the board would ban/delete any overt left-wing posts or mega shitposts? There are obvious pros to this:
>No question whether a liberal poster is being serious or not, just delete - thus keeping the thread from likely being derailed by them, or idiots taking them seriously and wasting everyone's time
>Dont have to deal with niggerpill-esque posters
>Board will still not be an echo-chamber, differring ideas will remain, and discourse will continue to evolve and improve - we just wouldn't have to worry about taking steps back in a discussion because some leftard/shitposter questions or opposes some underlying ideal that the serious right-wing posters have already agreed upon or understood

I should still meditate on it, but in truth I need even more data on these kinds of environments to make a better conclusion on the effectiveness of either side. As far as live hypothesis stand, I only have /dup/ and 8moe's /pol/ to draw from, and I persoanlly consider 8moe's board gimped.
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>>900
>I initially thought it'd be best to put thread OP quality under the biggest scrutiny, while inter-thread posts can enjoy much more lenience.
I agree. Mandating high quality OP's that contain sources, archived, filled the body of the post with many quotes from the archived source, and containing as many relevant images to the story or discussion as possible. The best way to bring up the post quality is with good posts, and those all begin at the OP of a thread.
>Then I got the idea it could still be abused this way, despite the intentions, so maybe it would be best if, just like old 8/pol/, that the board would ban/delete any overt left-wing posts or mega shitposts?
Probably not a good idea. I get accused of being any number of political ideologies based on the discussion taking place. Of course if bad actors started invading it might be necessary, it's hard to tell. I think the best way to avoid bad actors shitting up a board is to avoid getting their attention in the first place, which is why I'm so against the /pol/ moniker. At the end of the day I'd like to think a political board here would move slow enough that a little bit of leftist concern trolling and shit-posting won't really matter.

I'm not personally very interested in peoples retarded political opinions anyways, which is why I like the aesthetic of a board called "News & Current Events" much better. Of course a board like that is inherently political, but if the premise is threads that are about news and current events then at the very least even someone who couldn't possibly care less about the retarded ideological squabbling can still get something out of it by checking up daily for new articles, videos, and stories.

I'm not particularly invested either way. If someone wants to take on the task of running a full blown imkampfy-like /pol/ then at the very least it'll be entertaining.
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>>902
What I take from your post is that you're a fence shitter - why should a political board cater to people like you?
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>>903
>What I take from your post is that you're a fence shitter
I'm an ethno-nationalist who believe in the systematic eradication of the global ethnic jewish population. I'm interested in the news and talking about/watching happenings with anons, what I'm not interested in is listening to retards talk about 400 variations of economic theory and other completely irrelevant distractions.
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>>904
My leaning isn't far off from yours, but it is quite presumptuous to disregard any political ideals that aren't your own, and to dismiss the discussion of said ideals.
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>>905
Perhaps I'm obsessing too much like an autist on the news and current events angle. It doesn't matter much, I'm just a rambling retard myself. I'm just wary of the infamous /pol/ moniker and all the radioactive bullshit that comes with it.
Looks like your vetting process was a bit lack luster with this one, mister fish.
How did Sturgeon fuck up this time?
We have Dolphin as a /tech/ BO now.
See >>>/japan/436
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>>917
And the first BO spergout drama of zzzchan begins. Should be entertaining
Hey fish face. I agree the new BO of /tech/ is fishy. It's not just that he banned low-lee, but that he's being hypocritical and intentionally stirring shit.
>Conflating loli and CP by announcing them both as banned in spite of CP already being global banned
>When he could have just banned loli and said nothing about it
This website allows loli. If he really thought it supported pedophilia, he wouldn't have volunteered to be a BO on this website, associating with those he believes support pedophiles and drawing activity to a site that he believes supports pedophiles. I believe it is absolutely certain he volunteered as BO in bad faith and is just here to shit the place up with drama and retardation. The fact that you got another BO application so soon after a /japan/, a board that feuds with /cow/, and /cow/'s hatred of loli, only adds to the suspicion with which you should treat this faggot.
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>>919
It's incredibly weird that a new BO would randomly inject a political narrative that the rest of the site overwhelming disagrees with on a SFW board like /tech/ that has literally nothing to do with it into the boards rules. Grand conspiracies about identityfags aside it's just fucking awkward, to say the least. But I guess it depends on how autonomous Sturgeon wants individual board owners to be, or if he expects them to fall into a similar ethos with the rest of the site. Even then, the artificial nature of that specific rule should be called into question. Very fishy.
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>>921
>Grand conspiracies about identityfags aside
It doesn't necessarily have to be /cow/, and /cow/ is not a single identity fag, it's a group. Seriously, on a site this small, what are the chances there'd be two BO applications only 4 days apart when other BO's came weeks to months apart?
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>>923
It's worth taking into consideration but I think giving that much weight to boogiemen can potentially do more harm than good. But ultimately I agree, it's suspect.
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I was going to make a discussion thread on /tech/, but it looks like the BO glows so hard.
Fuck /cow/niggers
Fuck Dolphin
Fuck Esther
Fuck HangingFlesh
Fuck Guntniggers
Fuck 8kunt
Fuck Cuckchan
Fuck Normalniggers
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new evidence of glow
>>>/japan/485
>Your country "Unknown" is not allowed to post on this board
What the hell? I'm in the U.S. of A. Not even posting through tor works either. Guess I'll just crosslink on /meta/.

>>>/tech/87
A bit late for that. You've made your bed, and the thread is archived. archive.is/EzGQ8 Everyone knows you're retarded already.

>>>/tech/88
>/japan/ is justifiably on edge after being chased around so I get why they're so suspicious.
>I've got no concrete proof if you're dolphin or not.
I'm not even a /japan/fag, and it doesn't have to be any "boogieman" in particular. This shit reeks of bad faith actions, and I wouldn't be surprised if the board is surprise nuked at some point in the future, or if becoming a BO here is an attempt to get close to you and get personal info that whoever it is can threaten you with to remove /japan/, just like what happened on PLW.
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>>934
>he's already blocking random countries
I give it 48 hours before Sturgeon gets fed up and deletes the board, or Dolphin gets bored and deletes it himself.
I would become the /tech/ BO, but I haven't moderated imageboards before and I'm a late 2019 newfag.
Not sure if I'm up for it or have time to become a BO hotpocket.
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>>937
>late 2019 newfag
>I want to be BO!
kill yourself and lurk a 10 billion years, in that order
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>>937
Being a BO isn't something that should be done on a whim because you're bored. It's dedicating your attention and time to doing nigger janitor bullshit for potentially years and years to come.
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>>937
>>940
is this real samefagging or the site fucking up
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>>941
That's the ID for TOR users. For some reason Sturgeon didn't make TOR IDs 00000.
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>>942
retarded, but thank you
ALL ME
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I'll become /tech/ BO if I can randomly ask people to prove their worth by writing a small program, and ban anyone who refuses or uses python or rust or similar gay language.
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>>921
>it depends on how autonomous Sturgeon wants individual board owners to be, or if he expects them to fall into a similar ethos with the rest of the site
Ideally I want boards to have a fair bit of autonomy. I don't expect everyone to get along but I'm no fan of board wars. All I can really ask is to keep it civil.

>>934
>This shit reeks of bad faith actions, and I wouldn't be surprised if the board is surprise nuked at some point in the future
The whole process of getting /tech/ set up and the BOs initial actions are very strange, that is true. However we have hashed backups of the entire site + satellite servers every 15 minutes. It's safe to just use /tech/ and if something happens I should be able to restore it. I will be running some practice restores very soon to make sure this works

Also regarding the blocked country issue, I dont have a header passing that info through. I'll change that back.

>>937
Fatchan/v/ was my first experience with any kind of moderation role. We're well into a new era for IBs and there's plenty of room for new blood. I'd encourage anons to step up and give it a try. It's also less work on average than some of you think

>>941
tor still gets a random per thread id. I should have a fix with the next site update.


tl;dr I just wanted /tech/ and it's been a mess. This whole situation reeks and if I can get concrete evidence that it's dolphin then I will step in.

In the meantime keep an eye out and record everything. I'd advise against directly antagonizing the /tech/ BO or shitposting the board to death. That's not fair if it isn't actually dolphin and if it is I get the feeling he'll out himself sooner rather than later. 

And yes, I want to have more than circumstantial evidence for this. Everything we have so far only implies heavily. If this guy is really like what I've heard you should be able to bait something out of him that serves as concrete proof :^)
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Is there any IP range that isn't banned on /tech/? I thought he might have banned everything except TOR as a meme but that doesn't work either. I just wanna talk about CSS.

language: css
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}
#settingsmodal>.row:first-of-type,#postform #dragHandle,.post-container>.post-info,.catalog-tile>.post-info,tbody>:first-child {
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}
#settingsmodal>.row:first-of-type {
 color:#ddd;
}
#modalclose {
 background:#c0c0c0;
}
body {
background: #006a6a;
}

a[href="mailto:sage"] {
 pointer-events:none;
 text-decoration:none;
}
a[href="mailto:sage"]::after {
 float:right;
 content:"";
 width:46.5px;
 height:15.5px;
 background:url(/file/ee472a5a410b0a4b41b9ba570eaea8d5b299555582f14db7da623f8ddda2c870.gif);
 background-size:46.5px 15.5px;
}


.catalog-tile{
  display:flex;
  flex-direction:column;
  width:170px;
}
.catalog-tile > *{
  width:100%;
  order:1;
}
.catalog-thumb {
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  max-height:80px;
  max-width:95%;
}
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>>946
No he blocked all traffic unknown countries, which is everyone since I don't have a country header being passed through. I'm also not seeing a way to switch it back.
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>>947
>I'm also not seeing a way to switch it back.
The anglo code strikes again
Fixed it, /tech/ should work now
>>946
Fixed it.
>>945
>board wars
>autistic retarded drama for the sake of it
ftfy
>>944
So basically with you as board owner someone has to first right a program to say "Hello World!" then?
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>>932
hangingflesh is based
>>944
[code]
#include <stdlib.h>
int main() {
printf("Hello, world!");
return 0;
}
[/code]
Good enough?
>>945
>muh "concrete evidence" when anyone with eyes can open /japan/ and see it's the dolphin
You don't happen to work for CNN, do you seagull? What's your opinion on massive voter fraud?
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>>937
> I'm a late 2019 newfag.
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>>939
>>937
If you don't want a newfag to become the new /tech/ BO, then get some oldfag that isn't a /cow/tard to step up as the /tech/ BO
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>>966
i forgot to give >>963 a (You)
>>945
How are the backups so far?
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Fix the CSS in /tech/, that jew blue text is pure cancer. Also kill the BO while you're at it if you haven't already.
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>>977
I second this, but who will be the /tech/ BO? Is anyone who isn't a /cow/boy applying for /tech/ BO?
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>>978
I would but once Covid is over I'll be busy as hell.
>>976
The backups update every 15 min. I'm working to get them piped to external storage automatically but I'm not that experienced with chron jobs. 

>>977
>Also kill the BO while you're at it if you haven't already.
I'm using him as a security testFeel free to apply for /tech/
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In the future you should have BO applicants submit their ruleset and any template threads they might be planning to make. The more information you can derive about their plans for the board the easier you can filter through the bad actors and retards.
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>>1031
I am going to need to be a bit more thorough in this process going forward, got any other ideas?
>>1032
take dolphinpills and become a dolphin, fish!
>>1032
Not really anything that hasn't already been said, at least for the vetting process. You might want to have a spiel where you explain how tor posting works before giving people a board. Did he not submit his rules in his initial application? I see now in the OP they should be included. If he submitted a rule as retarded and irrelevant to /tech/ as the no loli rule was that should have been stupid enough to warrant denying the application.

I guess you could get input from whatever gvols or staff you may have for each application. I think parts of the questions you're asking should be revamped though. Specifically the parts where you're asking what someone might do if CP is posted, since what you actually want done is quite a complicated procedure. You should just explain what should be done.
>>1032
>>>/tech/101 is locked.
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>>1035
meant to sticky it, my b
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>>1032
All applicants must pass a clock drawing test.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10068923/
>Patients with schizophrenia performed significantly worse on clock drawing and copying despite the fact that the groups had similar scores on the MMSE. Worse performance was associated with higher scores on the BPRS. Clock drawing and copying may be useful for the assessment of cognition in schizophrenia
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>>1045
You'd have to be downright mentally retarded to be unable to draw a clock properly.
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>>1046
Yes, that's the point. Not being able to draw a clock from memory is a symptom of impaired spatial reasoning ability, which is a symptom of dementia (of both the senility kind and the baby-eater kind) as well as schizophrenia and brain damage. You filter out the three biggest cancers threatening imageboards in one go. I'd post an article with examples but the site cockblocked me.
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>>1047
>cockblocked me.
I think you mean clockblocked you.
>>1047
I think Tom needs to make a more stronger captcha that's both anti-/cow/s and anti-dolphin, maybe a combination of chess and a clock.
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>>1050
Could always just alternate between a clock captcha and the grid one. Maybe even have an entire arrangement of captcha mini-games that you can cycle through.
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>>1051
>warioware captcha
Fuck yeah.
>>1050
>>1051
Not even necessary, they were at it for a couple hours and I was just watching the requests get mulched. We're fine.
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>>1053
>I was just watching the requests get mulched.
Imagine the assblasting that took place in their faggy little chat rooms
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>>1053
>Actually too autistic recognize shapes
There have been shit stirrers on /b/ for a long time and not a single action has been taken by the /b/ mod. Fish, please kick that retard out, I will his job for him. My username is "sardine".
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>>1065
You've been going around trying to sow dissent and d&c ever since you outed yourself on /tech/, pedophile. No one is falling for any of it, but complaining about not enough rules and moderation on /b/ is especially retarded, even for you.
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>>1066
Fuck you retard I'm the one making the hentai thread on /b/ and there has been nothing but nigger obsession for the past two weeks. The mods have been doing fucking nothing despite my complaint and I want to fix it. Not everyone is the same boogeyman you are so obsessing over shit for brain.
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>>1067
The entire point of /b/ is that it isn't moderated for quality you retarded faggot. If you want curated threads then fuck off to a dedicated porn board somewhere else or make a hentai board yourself. Though with your retarded fucking temperament it clearly wouldn't be a good idea to have you running a board. I'm sure there's a hentai board somewhere on the webring.
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>>1066
Pedophile content is banned on sight as if it will literally kill you in an instant but cuckoldry is somehow not disgusting at all and allowed to be exist here? Nigger what the fuck is wrong with you? Knock a few sense into your head coward. I stay in this little piece of shit place because I am sick of 8chan cuckolds, and what I have been seeing on here? If you don't feel disgust about this shit you're no fucking doubt one of them. You browse 8moe daily and subconsciously feel like the cuckoldry is just part of the culture.
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>>1069
just run your own imageboard site or create a pisscord server if you don't want cuckolds
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>illegal content isn't allowed but legal content is
<I can't comprehend this line of thinking
You're either retarded or acting in bad faith. Either way I'm done responding.
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>>1068
If it weren't for quality why is there even a ban and delete function in the first place? Oh I get it so you only ban spam. Constant babbling about nigger dick and thread derailing is somehow NOT spam? So it's only spam when you feel like doing it. The reason people are attracted to this place is because it has quality control. The reason I only use this /b/ is because it doesn't have disgusting sexual perverts. If it weren't for the kind of people populate this place you wouldn't see me here. With no quality control this /b/ will be no different from cuckchan/b/. Let's see how you like it when every two posts is a picture of a nigger dick and a tranny jerking off. /b/ isn't moderated for quality my fucking ass, you stupid fucking cuckold. Go back to 8moe.
>>1071
>muh legal
>muh illegal
Tell me, personally, what is more disgusting to you? A retarded nobody child getting fucked in the ass or a piece of shit tranny propaganda designed to humiliate you? Legal this legal that, fuck you. If you don't have boiling rage seeing this type of shit I really fucking doubt you belong here. I have seen this kind of shit too much everywhere else and I am pissed the fuck off. What is more important to you to delete?
>>1070
Ah yes let's just run away like we do with 4chan, 8chan and every other chan. We will have our home finally!!!!
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>>1071
>bad faith
Look at this nigger accusing me of bad faith. Not wanting to see obvious fucking /cow/ shit is acting in bad faith. I'm starting to doubt the position of the /b/ mod, it's almost as if he likes /cow/ or something.
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>>1072
>/b/ has disgusting content I personally do not approve of and hurts my sensibilities
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>>1065
>>1067
>>1069
>>1072
This thread
>>1066
>>1067
I agree with this but >>1068 is also right. /b/ shouldn't be overmoderated. But there is difference between shitposting and straight up trolling. There's nothing wrong with mods making a move against posts that are just obvious trolls, like the nigger derailment (and 3D posting) in the hentai thread anon was mentioning. Those are clearly bad actors.
Still it wouldn't be a good idea to have another BO for /b/. Chances are, one of the /tv/cow/ trolls would apply himself and make things even worse.
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>>1076
Over moderation? What the fuck are you talking about? My entire point is to delete cuckold shit and never anything else. I am fine with everything else. Don't try to put words in my mouth.
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>>1077
This! We must liberate /b/ from things I don't like. Give me board owner, my username is "ComradeCetacea", and I will ban everything I don't like.
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>>1078
ok cuck
Do you accept bunker applications for boards that want a backup in case something might happen to their current home? From what I've read it sounds like you're only accepting applications from existing boards where it's a given that a migration will happen but needs some time to really begin.
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>>1080
>Do you accept bunker applications for boards that want a backup in case something might happen to their current home
Absolutely, /r9k/ did exactly this for a while until I got around to setting up the .onion. See: https://zzzchan.xyz/meta/138 for my policy on this.
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>>1082
That's great, thank you for being willing to take bunkers. I'm the BO of /hgg/, since you mentioned that you didn't want boards dedicated to fetishes I figure I should let you know that there are some things on /hgg/ that have content in games that could be seen as extreme like amputees. There are also some things that may cause issues like 3dcg loli (ie; artificial academy, skyrim mods), since anon.cafe doesn't allow that content I think this should be mentioned as well. For what its worth Loleron has told me that Skyrim loli stuff aren't forbidden but as soon as there's a complaint then it will get banned and anime style 3dcg like stuff you'd find in Artificial Academy are fine on PLW. Those threads are dead now though so it didn't matter.

>What will the focus of your board be?
Lewd games in general. Development, playing them, etc. /hgg/
>What will the rules be?
The rules have already been established but the gist is that excessive shitposting, any shilling, and namefagging when you're not working on a game will result in a ban.
>How would you handle the following hypothetical scenarios:
>A user who is only breaking the rules of your board has a substantial post history that is perfectly fine up until the single instance you are reviewing. What do you do?
Delete that post and ban them.
>A spammer posts CP. What do you do?
Permanently ban them and remove their posts.
>A spammer has slid your catalog and all unpinned threads are gone. What do you do?
I use built in functions to restrict thread creation/day past a certain amount so I hope this site has those working. Otherwise I would email the admin in hopes of reverting the board.
>What time range(s) would you normally be able to keep an eye on the board?
It ranges quite a bit so I don't have specific time ranges but I check on things ~2 times a day at the current activity the board has. In the past when /hgg/ was much more active I would check on it multiple times throughout the day whenever I had some free time.
> If your board becomes active enough, do you agree to look for one or more vol(s) to help you? Do you know anyone already?
We already have a few people that have been vols in the past, if they don't respond or aren't active if the board grows in popularity I'll recruit new ones.
>Why do you want to be a moderator for this board?
While we have a board on cafe they don't allow some of the content /hgg/ has had in the past (3dcg loli ie; artificial academy), prolikewoah seems to be going through some kind of trouble and I would like to set up a bunker just in case.
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>>1083
>you mentioned that you didn't want boards dedicated to fetishes
I don't want entire boards for specific fetishesat least for the foreseeable future, and I will never be hosting anything akin to /abdl/. General porn boards are fine and the site is established to the point where adding them makes sense.

>There are also some things that may cause issues like loli
Loli is allowed. If little cartoon girls are the hill I have to die on to prevent the fictional representation of something illegal being made as bad as real world illegal activity so be it. I don't really know how much more heat 3dcg stuff might bring but why not find out

Anyways shoot me an email and we can go from there.
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>>1083
Good luck /hgg/, i used to use it plenty and it breaks my heart it having such a small activity, i don't use it anymore because i don wank anymore but best of luck.
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>>1097
>because i don wank anymore 
You aren't better than us dude, so get that passive ego stroking out of here bitch.
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>>1101
Yes he is. Anons who don't beat off will always be superior to those that do.
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>>1104
How is he better? Not touching your dick is monk shit yo, might as well eat tofu for the rest of your life bitch.
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>>1115
Because jerking off is bad for you both mentally and physically. Being more mentally and physically fit than someone makes you better than them, at least in that aspect. And since Anons are to be judged on individual actions rather than the sum of all their actions since we're all anonymous, not jerking off makes him better.
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>>1116
>jerking off is bad for you both mentally and physically
Drinking is bad too, smoking is bad too. Anything action in this world can be a bad thing if overused and harmful things aren't so harmful when they are used in moderation if not making you more relaxed and focused. Being a Christian teetotaler turns you into the head up your ass mentality and the benefit one gains from not jerking off a few months is minuscule compared to some fags jerk off twice a week. If you want to be fit mentally and physically, most of it is due to hard work and proper nutrition, not being a gay monk for a year with feel before real mentality. All that time you spend researching about the benefit of not touching your cock could have been spent on, you know, working out till you pass out.
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>>1117
Congratulations on completely ignoring the point made about the fact masturbation is being addressed in isolation. Masturbating is bad. Consuming porn is bad. Drinking is bad. Smoking is bad. Not masturbating is a superior decision to choosing to masturbate, this is an indisputable fact.

I didn't say that masturbating is the worst vice, or that anyone should prioritize cutting that vice out of their lives as if that alone would solve all their problems. I just said masturbation is bad, and this much is indisputable.
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>>1118
Masturbating isn't a bad thing, it's the addiction that is bad. The reason why nofap is bad is because it shames people for even think about touching their dicks. Jerking off is a natural behavior, people have sexual desire and sometimes it needs to be released. Men have it, women have it, all moving creatures have it. It is simply the desire to mate and procreate. It’s a fucking natural behavior. It’s not something else you put in your body or your mind, it’s simply a natural feeling released inside your body. The fact  that you idiots reject this part of your nature so violently shows how detached you are. If you don't release it, you crave it. It's not the same thing as drug withdrawal because it's a natural thing to do. If you don't release your semen, what the fuck are you doing? Elitist retards think he's the top of the fucking world for not jerking off for a year. Pathetic. If you want to be a monk then shut the fuck up and do it, don't shame people for touching his dick. Consuming 3d porn is always bad because it's fucking 3dpd. If quitting 3dpd porn is a challenge to you then you're still a retarded normalniggershit anyway. If you don’t watch porn then you do not have to worry about the addiction at all. You just rub one out and move on. 
>this much is indisputable.
>eating meat is bad, end of the line, no more question asked
>trump is bad,  simple as that
>god isn’t real, end of the line. 
>i said this is fact so it must be true
Your kind is the equivalent of vegans.
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>>1118
More on it, the fact that you even care about nofap at all shows you have never ever lived with other people in the same room before. When you don't have privacy, you don't watch porn, you sure as hell don't try to jerk off and suddenly you never care about jerking off at all. Try living with a roommate and see how fast you stop caring about this stupid shit.
Why did the /b/ jannies delete my kuz thread?
>>1119
>Masturbating isn't a bad thing, it's the addiction that is bad.
Wrong, masturbation is bad. If you have sexual urges and want to exert them get a wife and fuck her.
>Jerking off is a natural behavior
Appeal to nature, meaningless.
> people have sexual desire and sometimes it needs to be released
Correct
>Men have it, women have it, all moving creatures have it. It is simply the desire to mate and procreate. It’s a fucking natural behavior.
Correct
>It’s not something else you put in your body or your mind, it’s simply a natural feeling released inside your body. 
Correct
> If you don't release it, you crave it.
There's nothing wrong with having sex with your wife. Release your urges all you want.
>It's not the same thing as drug withdrawal because it's a natural thing to do.
Imagine unironically spouting "it's natural so it's good". Nature is a buzzword. It means nothing and has no bearing on whether or not something is healthy or productive for the individual or for society. We know that masturbation and pornography is at scale bad for society. It doesn't matter if you concoct this very specific scenario where you have some carefully devised ritual to make sure that you only ever jerk off in a healthy manner that prevents ""addiction"", another (((psychological))) buzzword.

We do not address moral problems at an individual level for a reason, because it's fucking retarded and pointless. If people consistently get ""addicted"" to masturbation and porn so consistently that it causes rampant depression and sexual incompetence in young men then we can confidently assert that masturbation and porn are bad when we practically apply them to hundreds of millions of people.
>Consuming 3d porn is always bad because it's fucking 3dpd.
<it's bad because I said so
<but jerking off isn't bad because I said so and it's natural
<but uh women aren't natural those don't count
It must be amazing to go through life with a sub 3 digit IQ. I wish I could be as blissfully fucking retarded as you are and have absolutely no consistency in my moral positions what so ever. It must feel great to be that fucking stupid.
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>>1122
>wife
lmao, opinion immediately discarded. Kill yourself.
Would it be okay to make a /k/ here? The moderation on cafe/k/ has gotten ridiculously ironfisted, and I feel like we could do with a weapons board that has a more early 8/k/ tier moderation policy than anything the autists in cuck/k/ or cafe/k/ can apparently manage. Or is the interest in such a board too low?
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>>1132
>I can't read: the post
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>>1132
I would like a non-coofvid-obsessed /k/ as well.
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>>354
it's been I'm afraid it's been 4 months and nothing major has happened
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>>1139
There was some Dolphin and cuckchan-tier spam earlier, but in the end they failed to successfully rape zzzchan since they didn't know how to play Tom's chess game correctly.
>>1138
>>1133
Doesn't matter in the end, the BO got switched out and now the board is more active and people aren't getting b& and deleted left and right.
Looks like /k/ has finally died
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>>1210
proof?
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>>1211
A literal glownigger is running the board now and is apparently trying to leak the location of posters he does not like. 

Proofs:
It appears my other images did not send, here are links:
https://anon.cafe/meta/res/13754.html
https://anon.cafe/fascist/res/14422.html#q15261
https://anon.cafe/fascist/res/14422.html#q15143
https://anon.cafe/k/res/10348.html#10709
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>>1212
Seeing of the news over at anoncafe/k/ should we have a /k/ or hold off to not attract attention?
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>>1213
Hold off for now, there's people from 8kike who keep accusing zzzchan of spreading too much on the webring, some of them probably want their stillborn /k/ board to succeed too, but i believe that people from /k/ have enough sense not to follow along to cakefeds when the golem start pushing for their /k/. Just wait a bit for now.
>>1218
This, wait 2.5 days and then shill.
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>>1218
The kvetching from blacked.moe about zzzchan being monolithic is unbelievably hypocritical and bad faith, since that is self-admittedly their entire goal. But none the less I would agree that zzzchan probably shouldn't catch virtually every single major board in the webring, since that kind of defeats the entire purpose. But I don't think that means we should let boards die or be ruined on that principle.
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>>1219
No just wait for someone from /k/ to step up and request a board here, most of the strelok probably want to resolve their new BO problem there if possible and basically this >>1220.
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>>1218
>>1220
>giving a shit what underage circlejerking twitterfags think
>giving a shit what willing consumers of blacked.gov think
>giving a shit what foreskin crusader's fanboys think
zzzchan unironically becoming the next gathering point on the webring is the best thing that could possibly happen.
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>>1222
I don't give a shit what they think. But in the spirit of the webring it's best to have some degree of decentralization. If a board simply won't be accepted anywhere else in the webring then it's fine, but if a board can be accepted onto anon.cafe then it probably should go there to help decentralize the activity.

I wouldn't say it's that terrible to have a centralized "hub" in the webring, but we do know from experience that it can end very badly like with Julay. And I wouldn't say anyone necessarily should feel obligated to deny boards they'd be willing to host just because they exist elsewhere, or to artificially limit their own sites growth on principle. But when something has a long established presence on anon.cafe suddenly migrating that board here because some difficulty has occurred is kind of silly.

There's nothing wrong with anon.cafe and if they're willing to host /k/ then anon.cafe should be where /k/ stays. Though I suppose you could make the argument that the major boards of anon.cafe are all boards that fundamentally clash with the entire ethos of the website, but that's on the admin and his weird choices of board acceptance.

It's a complicated issue that doesn't have a clear answer. But part of me does want zzzchan to become the spooky titan that blacked.moe fags fear it being just to watch them get butthurt.
>>1222
I'm starting to hate blacked.moe even more now.
At first I was indifferent to them even though I now that there admins aren't the most (((trusted))) people out there but the existence of infinity like board is important, but when zzzchan appeared they all went like "It's not needed anymore" or "It's honeypot don't go in" they started shitting on us first but when anons shit on them they all get defensive and say "dude stop it we need to coexist and shit like that" insisting that we are the troublemakers.
And don't forget about the many instances when they scrap the Gamenight OP without the host consent, when it even lead them to copy over the wrong IP which was the funniest shit ever, and even (((mark))) came to that thread and derailed himself saying that "PastaBO is a cunt" but the users there complained that we brought over that drama.
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>>1225
I would avoid attacking the random comments of anonymous retards. If you want to criticize blacked.moe there's plenty of ammunition in Mark and Acid's comments alone. Shitting on blacked.moe is good bants but I do think we should avoid legitimate full blown d&c autism. It's good that an infinity style imageboard exists that is at least half ran by someone connected to the culture and isn't a glow nigger (codexx). And it's even better that they're in the works to "join" the webring.

Attack people on points that matter and have merit. Bully people because it's fun. But we should not enable a goon d&c culture where people start operating in bad faith out of autistic tribalism. Not that I'm accusing you of this, of course.
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The situation on /k/
>>1228
Oh i get it when people from the zzzchan and webring want to keep to themself and shoo away golem:
>bad faith out of autistic tribalism
But when golem from fedskike calling zzzchan honeypot, shill, have no OC, monopolizing board and many more while they have 155 board and still stealing gamenight to this day:
>random comments of anonymous retards
Yeah i get it now. Very kosher.
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>>1228
Yeah I still kinda respect the site and I'm quite happy that they are finally joining webring, because I think the webring is one of the greatest thing that ever happened to imageboards.
imagine in the future where the webring is now a standalone software no longer tied to browsers and that shit
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>>1231
Jesus fucking christ it's like this post was written by an algorithm.
>>1232
>imagine in the future where the webring is now a standalone software no longer tied to browsers and that shit
Doubt it, but it would be nice to evolve into some sort of standardized imageboard protocol and have software to interface with them that aren't browsers. Probably not worth the effort though. And the webring doesn't actually do anything to federate shit, it's just a list of imageboards. I'll take just having a functional website that exists for longer than a year straight for the time being.
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>>1218
>Complaining about other boards being sick of your shilling
You reap what you sow,faggot. Back when /animu/'s new mod was instated vermin like you kept pushing the subject of moving the board here and faggots like you have a history of pushing your shit everywhere and dragging irrelevant drama.
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>>1233
It may be stupid it may be unnecessary but one day Imageboards will rain suprime and zzzchan will be it's king, and I welcome our new overlord.
>>1234
>one annoying idiot = everybody
wew lad.
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>>1236
>Damn 8moe for having a fag or two disliking us
>It's just one guy why are you generalizing us
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>>1234
>literally posts an image where the admin commented that it was one annoying bad actor spamming the site everywhere
You played yourself with that one ni/GG/er. No one here wants anything to do with blacked.moe. It's funny that you don't seem to recognize the irony of falsely accusing anonymous posters of shilling when Acid himself literally got fucking banned from fat/v/ because he wouldn't stop shilling blacked.moe.

I'd rather not have to point out all the flaws of your retarded shit-flinging because I generally lean towards to side of peace. But if you're going to keep giving me lowing hanging fruit I'm going to keep picking it.
>>1237
>a fag or two disliking us
<forgetting to mention that the two biggest anti-webring posters are fucking mark and acid
It just keeps getting better with every post. But I will agree with you, I don't think the wider blacked.moe posters are anti-webring at all.
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>>1233
>Jesus fucking christ it's like this post was written by an algorithm.
When you can't argue just deflect, you really learn from a jew huh.

>>1234
i don't care about /animu/ or /geimu/, i never post in any of them. When /animu/ get /a/ on fedskike i know they can't be trusted. 
>>1237 see he defending fedskike now. Even using its proper name how nice.
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>>1239
I can't argue against incoherent posts anon I'm sorry. There's a minimum level of articulation I'm willing to engage with and you've fallen a little bit short. I only have so much energy I'm willing to invest into imageboard arguments and I can't waste it on deciphering your broken english.
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>>1237
Have you actually taken a look into their meta threads, for fuck sake even (((mark))) outed himself in the last gamenight thread and ofcourse he deleted it
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>>1238
>>1239
>Implying I'm a ni/gg/er
>Being this deep in denial.
Do you faggots even read your own catalog?
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>>1242
What's the point of screencapping the /meta/ catalog?
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>>1240
heh.
Go >>1240
heh. You go straight to changing the subject eh.
Sure go back to fedskike then, to your safespace echo chamber, you feel nice and happy there.
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>>1244
welp i fucked up. 
heh.
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>>1243
Denying you have these faggots pushing the site when you had them from nearly Zchan's inception is beyond dishonest.

Reminds me when every time /pol/'s garbage leaked off their board and every idiot was a /leftypol/ falseflag, as if it was statistically impossible to have retards or obnoxious faggots in your board.
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>>1246
>community talking about how their site admins have completely abandoned their site and how they're considering migration on zzzchan
>conversation is completely contained on zzzchan
>boards from PLW have already started to migrate here like with /japan/
<T-THIS IS SHILLING
If you consider that shilling then there's no reason to continue having this conversation. That is irredeemably fucking retarded and you're a blatant bad actor.
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>>1246
>sees pic related first thing
Stopped reading. I don't care about (You)r little inter-board drama or PLW.
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>>1246
Yes, the image in zzzchan's meta proves it's being shilled elsewhere.
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>>1250
By image I mean thread.
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>>1248
>conversation is completely contained on zzzchan
>Being this fucking retarded and dishonest
The conversation afterwards was being pushed in the /animu/ meta thread for almost an entire week since that thread was made.Might be remembering wrong but faggots with a chip on their shoulder kept pushing the place and defending the site's honor and bringing in drama irrelevant to /animu/.
>board from PLW have already started to migrate here like with /japan/
/japan/ went to cakechan first before going down and then went off the webring on some board to avoid /cow/niggers before going back to the webring again here.And this was after a month or two from Tengu being silent on the webring.The push to move there was before /japan/ showed up again

This was almost right after a moderator was placed that would clean up the spam, not during the months where spam stayed for over half a week with no moderation.
Replies: >>1254 >>1255
>>1253
I wouldn't know what goes on at /animu/ because I don't post there. Go ahead and take some screenshots of the posts you're alleging are zzzchan anons actively shilling. I'll wait patiently.
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>>1253
Dont respond, I’m almost certain it’s a bad actor
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>>1254
>conversation is completely contained on zzzchan
>>1254
>I wouldn't know what goes on at /animu/ because I don't post there
>>1255
Everyone needs to accept the omnipresence of retards everywhere.
Not everything that makes you or someone else look bad is some malicious third party.
Replies: >>1257
>>1256
Until you post proof otherwise it is contained on zzzchan. We're having this conversation on zzzchan and the epic "proof" you've posted are threads from zzzchan. You're claiming that zzzchan posters are going around shilling everywhere, originally you were accusing people of doing this on blacked.moe which you shifted away from after it was pointed out that Acid actively shilled blacked.moe on fatchan.

This is the lowest effort shit I've seen in quite awhile. You could at least try and make this entertaining for me. If the infamous zigger goon is so "omnipresent" then you could find at least a single example of of an anonymous poster shilling the site. I'm not even asking you to find a credible post that is even worth considering, just literally any post at all and you can't even muster that. What a disappointing exchange this has been. I don't even think you're a ni/GG/er anymore, at least they can dish some bants and have some fun every now and again. You're just fucking boring.
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>>1257
I'm not spoonfeeding a faggot who intentionally misrepresents and misreads statements to get butthurt, denies reality when pointed out and decides to butt into conversations  and make he knows nothing about.
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>>1258
>Give me proof
>"No"
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>>1258
>claim ziggers are going around imageboards rampantly shilling
>can't find a single fucking post, not even one made in bad faith to back up this claim
<I-I'm n-not going to spoonfeed you!
OH NO NO NO
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>>1259
>>1260
Oh if only there was a feature that would allow easy access to another board with a couple of clicks and if a site had a thread dedicated for site management and issues, a "meta thread" if you would.
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>>1261
Hey buddy, have you heard of burden of proof?
If you're going to make an accusation, you're the one who needs to provide proof of that accusation. It's completely illogical to tell the person hearing the accusation to do the work for you.
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>>1261
>he's still trying to dig himself out
>>1261
Or if there was a commonly available function that would allow you to browse and search sites accross the majority of the web using specific keywords.

Like a Google to see farther or a Bing in your head that made your understand or a Duck that went Go and sold your information to marketers.
>>1262
I provided proof twice and it was dismissed by a faggot that admitted he didn't know what he was talking about.
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>>1264
All I see in this "proof" is insinuation after insinuation. Either post a screencap from the board of kindly fuck off
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this is nice thread
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There is nothing wrong with shilling.
Is anon.cafe kill for anybody else?
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>>1272
What the fuck is it with anon.cafe and malicious BO's deleting boards?
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>>1273
dunno but im making zzz/k/ now
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/K/ IS GONE! THE CIANIGGER NUKED THE BOARD!
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>>1274
Do you already have a competent board owner for it? If so I guess it's justifiable, but anon.cafe has backups of /k/.
Replies: >>1277
https://zzzchan.xyz/k/catalog.html

>>1276
I have an applicant, I will act as BO in the meantime to prevent another /tech/ style incident. If he proves to not be a bad mod I'll transfer the board to him.
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>>1277
Good practice going forward. Zzzchan grows ever stronger. Soon we will take over the world.
/k/ doesn't deserve this
>anon.cafe ddosed into oblivion
Why do people bully them so hard? Can't catch a fucking break.
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>>1280
> people
CIAniggers aren't people.
>>1275
He couldn't handle the niggerspam top kek
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>>137 (OP) 
Hello I want to apply for bo on /v/ just get rid of the one there's now
my rules:

>NO GAMERGATE
>NO TRANNIES
>NO MARK
>NO FAGGOTS
>NO NIGGERS
>NO GIRLS
>NO ACID

thanks for considering my application.
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>>1347
denied lol
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>>1349
sorru but I'm gonna wait for an official response by the administration
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>>1351
officially lick my butt
>>1347
I concur. This seems like a right ol' chap that has the board's best interests in mind! Heck, you should just give him the whole site!
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>>1354
>rulecucks
>>1347
>allowing women
denied
>>1354
Can some explain to me when did we have a /vhs/ board it was just made like that ?
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>>1421
didn't meant to reply
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>>1354
>that ID
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>>1430
ohh god he's back
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>>1432
Best part was that is was a glitch not a raid I got branded with the ID of death
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>>1434
wait I thought the ID belonged to TOR that time ?
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>>1437
I was the Tor poster and from what I can tell this glitch, or whatever it is, snags an already existing ID from within the thread unless I've already posted from the normal address using Tor not Tor address it'll keep changing unless I do that first (and hope it generates a new ID) and Tor will stay with that ID for the rest of the thread. Hell you probably see me ID switching right now
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hi, it's me again "the tor poster" you might recognize me from posts such as this >>1439. well today I'm here to tell you I suck major dick and enjoy having my anus prolapsed by shoving melons inside it.
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Hi, your friendly neighborhood Torposter reporting in to say that is post above me isn't me
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torposter here, I'm a bit of a schizo, all posts above are me.
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Hi Torposter here. Y̵o̴u̵ ̶I̸D̷'̶s̷ ̵a̵r̶̼̜͚͋̐ḙ̴́͝ ̵̩͋m̶̢̨̤͉͈̎̎̋̈́̈́í̶̦̦̭͙͇n̴̩̎̈́̈̆e̶̢̻̦̗̔̔̇̚ ̶͙̹̯̪̭͗̄a̴̛͉͛͊͆͌n̸͓̝͇̔̒̍͠ͅd̴͔̑ y̴͉͍͍̐̽̄̈́͝o̸̖͉͖͖̤̯͂̿͛̚̕͜͜ų̸̨̧̣̹͔̠̮̭́́̔̆̇̄̋̄̕͠'̵̮̗̒̊͠ȓ̷̗̼̟̈̀͑̔̔̈́̍̅̈́͐̍ê̷̖̲̮̤͂͐ ̵̡̩̖̘̣̗͖̀̄̂̂͜͠ṋ̸̇̓̓̉͂̍͑̆͝o̸̧͇̣͇̤̻͈͙̳͉̳̗̞̓̅̐̆̀̄͂ͅt̸̹̱̰̙͓̻͙̫̏̍̋̇̾͗̎̀̏̿̑͘ g̷̜̳̹̺͕̘̮̲͇̟͇͓̍͒͛̈́é̴̡̡̢̞̟̙̹̘̫͎͚̹̮͎͚͈͚̹͕͚̥͚̞̖̺̯͚͉̬͇͎͍͎̬̘͉͉͙̪̖̲̦̟̙͈͈̠̯̭̪̑͜͜͝ͅͅt̸̡̧̺̱͓͙̮͚̬̲͓̩̼̭̞̩̭̫̮͖̼͇͙̬̼͕̪̜͉̝̦̞̹͔̟̯̳͎̬͚̯͔͇̖̳̻͓́̀̔̔̐͗̂̌̉̎̐̓̓͑͒̈́̊̿͊̊̓̏̄̅̊͒̔͗͊͒͂̐́̉͗̂̃̔̌̃̉̈́͌̀̌̅̽̊̉̒̕̚͜͜͜͝͝͝ͅt̶̢̨̢̛̛̟͇͈̪̜̱͙̤̣̱̘̭̝̬̪͖̗͍͖͈̰̖̟̖̗̮̝͔̠̱͙̣̫͔͚̣͍̪͕͓͎̺͙͙͇͚̹̫̩̳͈̗̠̆̔̓̍̿̋̀̆͋͗͐̀̋̅͂́́͐̆͑̌̉͑͆̌̇̇̽̐͊̃́͆̐́͆̑͋̐̉̇̚͘̕͜͝͝ͅỉ̷̛̛̙̆̀͐̈́́͂͋́͊̉̽́̈͗͛͆͂̈́̇̎̈̈́̋̍͆̓̃̍̋̾͊̇̀̕̚͘̚͝͠ṇ̸̨̛̛̛̛͍̳͈̰͔͖͖̙̬̺̞̩͔̰͉̟̝̠͎͓͕̯̺͙̯̗̺̝̘̗͇̣̲̿̋̇̓̎̆͛̎͐̿͌̃̆̉͛̒̀̑̔̇͗͗̽́́͂̌́̈́̿̕̚͝͠͝ǵ̶̢̛̛͎̞̬̹̱̣̤͔͕̦̩̟͕͍̜̜͓̺̟͔̣͖̝̥̪̦̱͍͓̤̦̞̮̜͕̇͆̽̐̅͋̿̎̎̌̎̒̉̌̀̽͆̏̍̾͛̈̽̎̌̊͆̇̊̋̆̿͆̀̓̾͂͌́̀̀̿́̎͐̓̊̎͘͘͘̚̚̚̕͜͜͝͠͝ͅ ̷̧̨̢̛̲͉̥̖̲̩̠͇̮̬̼̼͖̯̬̠̫̬̞͓̙̼͚͎͈̺͍̹̜͑͌͆͗͑̐̌̈́͂͒̔͐͑̀̚͠͝͠ͅt̴̡̡̢̨̨̡͎̮̙͚̪͉͔̰̖̳̞͈͔̬̯̗̻̣̤͈̲̤͉̪̫̜͖̗̒͗̈͗͑̿͜͜ͅḩ̸̛̛̩͎̹̟͗̔̀̄͗̐̂̈́̀̄͒̏̍͋̏̿̓͗͆́̿̓̍̋͗̀̄͛͛̃͛̐͛͗̈́̀͆̽̎̉̐̿̍́͑̕͘̕̚̚͝͠͝͝ę̶̡͈̱̬̻̞̟̩͖̣̟̻̎̌̃̓͛̓͋̀̔͊̆͆̾̈́̃̄̿̑̐̃̇̈̆̾͌̈́̈́̐̌̊̀̽̽̓̓͛͂̃̽̿̀͌͗̈́̋̌͗͛̅͊̓̊̈́͘̚̕̕͘͠͝m̴̬̣̜̽ ̵̡̨͈̜̬̘̩̞̘͚̭̥̝͉͙̬̜͇̠̣̙̱̬͙͔̥͕̜̤͍̱̟̫͙̝̟̪̤̪̫̫̲̞͙͓̺̠̝͉̯̼̝̙̪̳̲̃̓͂̐͐́͊̋̈̈́͋̈́̆́̊͂͋̏̇̏̑̌̒͆̈̅͌̌̕͜͝ͅb̵̢̧̢̢̮̜͕̹͍͙̖̬̩̞̩̫̫̼̝͕͙̙̺͉̙̮̲̩̼͇̬̻͍͕̦̲̱͝ä̶̡̨̨̧̢̛̛͙͉̫̰͔̣͙̠͙̫̗̮̬̟͙̮̱̤͓̺͙͕̗͇̹̭̮͔̻̙͕̬̟̱̳̤̤̝̭̬͙̥̙̥̱͖̯̲̝̝͓́͛̒̄̿̄̃̉̽̇̿̉̋̎̆̾́͒̀̋́̕͜͝͠c̷̨̦̱̤͖̺̖̫̤͕̞̜̩̹̫̳̤̮̗̘̔̾̏̽̄́̃͆̎͒̀͂̐̏̇̃̀͊͊́́̍̈́̋̀̓͑͂̀̽̆̽̀̇̾̐̕̕̕̕͝͝͝͝ķ̶̡̨̡̨̛̛̛̟̞̜̤̼̙̬̬̖̜̥̰̮̱̗̬̭̟͉̥͇̩̭̖͙͚͕͚̱̬͕̥̜͉̹̮̻͔̺͉̫̮͓̤̘͕̤͋̏̑̅̄̎̈́̾̑́͆̅̊̍̐̿͋̀̄̑́̔̓̓̈́̓͊̀̐́̈́̀͑͒̐̀͛̋͌͐̎͑͊͗͐͆́͌͝͠͠͠͝͝͠ͅͅͅͅ
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1. What will the focus of your board be?
Discussion of Anime & Manga.

2. What will the rules be?
Rules
0. All global rules apply: https://zzzchan.xyz/rules.html
1. /a/ is a primarily SFW board. NSFW is only allowed if spoilered. Questionable SFW images OK.
2. Keep the topics related to Anime & Manga.
3. /jp/ content is allowed except vtubers and 3DPD idols.
4. Low quality shitposting will be met with deletion and an immediate ban (frogposting, wojaks, etc.). Otherwise, shitposting is allowed but try not to excessively shitpost or derail threads.
5. Name/avatar/tripfagging without a reason should be avoided.

3. How would you handle the following hypothetical scenarios:
    A. A user who is only breaking the rules of your board has a substantial post history that is perfectly fine up until the single instance you are reviewing. What do you do?
Warn the user (delete post and ban 1h or keep message up and ban 1h)
    B. A spammer posts CP. What do you do?
Delete the post and b&
    C. A spammer has slid your catalog and all unpinned threads are gone. What do you do?
Lock the board if there is an option for that, delete the spam, make a sticky explanation thread, then hope there are backups of the old threads that can be restored.

4. What time range(s) would you normally be able to keep an eye on the board?
7AM EST-12AM EST on the weekdays, 2PM-1AM EST on the weekends. Moderation time ranges might change in the future.

5. If your board becomes active enough, do you agree to look for one or more vol(s) to help you? Do you know anyone already?
Yes. I know one friend, but he is a bit hesitant on becoming a vol.

6. Why do you want to be a moderator for this board?
I want an actually good /a/ board, but nobody seems to be providing one. There has been demands of zzz/a/ recently, in /b/ for example: >>>/b/8254
I'm willing to step up as the /a/ BO here despite me having one board here already - /tech/. Smug /a/ is pretty slow outside the offtopic cafe threads and vtuber threads and there is not much to do there anyways. ProLikeWoah /animu/ is okay, but the site is on life support as I've heard around, and the admin can suddenly pull the plug and kill the site forever at anytime(?)

Username is hisuimeido

I sent an email, but I'm posting the application here anyways.
>>1470
zzzchan is growing more powerful by the day..
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>>1471
>/v/
>/b/
>10+ dead boards
some power you got
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>>1472
look, they already fear it..
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>>1470
YES
Finally I can talk about my favorite anime with people I actually like and without getting fucking banned for fucking up a word.
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>>1475
Yes! You can do it at https://prolikewoah.com/animu/
Amazing!
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>>1476
the /animu/ lads are good but I don't like that I can't explain it but I don't want to post there, but still the anime streams are comfy to watch and I hope the admin doesn't pull the plug.
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>>1439
>>1442
>>1443
>>1444
>>1446
>>1471
>>1472
>>1473
Hang on what's going on with these anons IDs?
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>>1476
LynxChan fucking sucks. Plus the site is a little slow for some odd reason. There's a vtuber thread, but so far I haven't seen any vtuber posts outside the vtuber threads. I imagine there is at least one vtuber post outside, but there is probably none compared to smugcuck.
It's a pretty bad thing that /animu/ is the only active non-rulecucked board on the webring, and they most likely don't have a fallback bunker. I don't want smugcuck to be the only active anime board on the webring. I think they aren't really active outside their cafe and vtuber threads anyways.
>>1478
Tor onion ID
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>>1479
>the only active non-rulecucked board
*the only active non-rulecucked anime board
>>1479
How does it work exactly? Does the Id become a Tor one when an anon posts under it? Or is there a set of Ids just for Tor?
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>>1481
The onion ID is randomized, but persistent for each thread instead of 00000 for some unknown reason.
The exit node ID is randomized all the time just like posting under a different VPN node.
Thanks for clearing this up for me. Explains what happened in the first GG thread over at /v/. Although it would be easier to adopt a standardized Tor id to avoid any confusion in the future
>>1479
>I don't post on /animu/ because there's a vtuber thread
>I don't post on /v/ because there's a gg thread
this retardation everyone
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>>1484
The vtubers don't stop me fully. I'd still sometimes post on /animu/ anyways, but I fear of loleron suddenly pulling the plug on PLW.
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>>1484
>>1485
I need to mention that fears of PLW suddenly shutting down doesn't stop me from posting on /animu/, but it would be nice to have another relaxed /a/.
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>>1471
And with /a/ also more beautiful.
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>>1487
I'll just ask here before I start spamming sturgeon with emails
Is the TPH trigger action in the settings panel on a countdown or does it persist until I manually reset it?
>>1488
It persists until you manually reset it. TPH is Threads Per Hour if you didn't know. You can do automatic trigger resets for lock mode and captcha mode.
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>>1488
Heil but using /animu/'s may be a little rude. It's a little too green anyway.
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>>1490
>>1488 isn't me. I haven't received a response from Sturgeon yet about /a/. I don't see /a/ on my account dashboard either. /a/ is also a 404 page for now since the board doesn't exist yet.
Waiting warmly for the email.
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>>1489
Alright, thanks.

>>1490
>>1491
Sorry, I replied on accident. t. /2hu/ bo
>>1491
Also, I can't sign in to cockmail for now. It takes long and then I'm redirected to a 504 page. It's possibly the constant DDoS attacks again.
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>>1488
>1488
You manually reset it, but I don't quite understand how the trigger resets are supposed to work.
>>1493
Should have just used (((proton))), cock.li is constantly down.
>>1486
So make another /a/ when/if PLW goes down, not before. You’re just going to splinter things further. There’s no real exigency to make an /a/ here yet unless PLW starts banning loli or something
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>>1496
>So make another /a/ when/if PLW goes down, not before. You’re just going to splinter things further.
this, please, people already want to point fingers at zzzchan for "stealing" boards, don't cause more drama than it's worth, it's gonna be fucking dead anyway what's the point=?
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>>1497
Zzzchan is growing too powerful to fast. We must limit our reach, for now..
>>1496
>>1497
What if I don't want to use /animu/?
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>>1499
Then I've really gotta ask what it is you want out of an anime board. Smug/a/ is rulecucked beyond belief and has a discord/IRC cabal with most of the traffic in the cafe(offtopic) and stream threads BUT has the most overall visitors and has the most stable website, OR you can go with /animu/ which is on an unstable website but offers the most freedom without entering /b/-tier moderation, and you don't need to walk on eggshells when you post so honesty is easy to find.
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>>1501
I like Smug but it doesn't have enough space, so it's all seasonal (moe) anime and threads that have a tradition. I'd like to discuss anime that is beyond that scope without necessarily buying into the chaotic ways of /animu/ or using Lynxchan in general, which is just a pain in the ass.
Also I think /a/ will have a positive influence on site culture in general. Look around and you'll find a ton of examples how imageboards that aren't at least a bit rooted in anime culture go to shit. It'd be stupid to have a million boards but no /a/.
Take the top 20 boards in the webring and make copies of those boards, we need to centralize everything here. Mark was right, decentralization is gay.
Quick question.
How long does it usually take for Sturgeon to respond to application emails?
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>>1504
sources say, within 6 months
Reminder to suggest improvements to the /a/ rules >>1470 unless they're good enough as is.
>>1496
>>1497
I don't intend to steal anons from /animu/. I guess some will stay there with the no vtubers rule which is final.
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>>137 (OP) 
>>864
Reminder. It makes tor browser show this in the address bar and can be configured to automatically switch to .onion
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>>1507
Some Anons that don't use the .onion probably just want to avoid the TOR ID.
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>>1508
optional, no reason not to add it
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Please add /a/ already, fishmin. I really want to avoid smug/a/ rulecuckery and the vtumor cancer infesting imageboards without having to click hide post and filters. So do other ziggers. See >>>/b/8254
>inb4 /cow/ goon attempting to stir shit
>inb4 /tv/ goon attempting to stir shit
>inb4 insert boogeyman here attempting to stir shit
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>>1510
>I want the BO to ban things I don't like because I'm too lazy to hide threads
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>>1511
You can't hide bad threads/posts and do nothing about them forever. There will only be a few threads and posts remaining while some will be shit anyways.
Filters never work. It is up to the meidos to cleanse the board of rapefugees along with the combined effort of the anons telling the rapefugees to fuck off or lurk moar.
>inb4 spede image/gif with redtext saying
>WE ARE A PURE BLOODED ETHNIC COMMUNITY ENCLAVE OF POSTERS AND IT IS OUT DUTY TO GATEKEEP VILE SHITPOSTERS TO ENSURE QUALITY CONTENT
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>>1513
I messed up with the spelling... I had to manually type it out.
>>1511
Then why don't you go back to 4chan and hide all the threads that you don't like then since just hide them lamo?  Vtubers are filthy lying whores and you idiots all fell for it. Kill yourself.
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>>1518
You're literally complaining about a single thread, you don't even have to hide it because it always has the same title so you can just filter it away forever. Go apply for a 4chan janitor if you want to delete things you don't like.
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>>1520
Why do I have to go the extra mile to satisfy you beta orbiter idiots? You should go the extra mile and go back to 8cuck and be there forever.
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>>1524
>Why do I have to go the extra mile to satisfy you
You're the one telling us to ban things to satisfy you. I'm telling you to hide things yourself to satisfy yourself.
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>>1525
No I'm telling the bo to ban retards like you, the failed normalfaggots out of this place. I'm telling you to kill yourself or shut the fuck up about vwhores to let this place be.
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>>1518
Because cuckchan has jewgle captcha, bans all VPN's and TOR, and doesn't function without niggerscript.
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>>1526
no you die
stupid cuck
>>1470
So where's /a/? Why is it not here yet?
>>1511
No it's called filtering out normalfags and the vtuberfags are one of them. You have boards for vtubers shit on smug and PLW. You don't need a fucking third /a/ to talk about some bitches all day who do nothing but pretend to be cute and that specific thread having the most post because no one cares about anime.
Delete the /k/ board I don't why you even brought it here, when it was obviously going to be dead and it had cuckchanners on there. Just let the /a/ board get created and get rid of /k/.
Fish-kun when are we gonna get a pol/news board? I just a want a place that's to host general discussion rather than highly specific political topics.
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>>1558
>Do we need cuckchan, niggerpiller, and CIAnigger attraction the board. 
How about no?
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>>1558
Hopefully soon, and I really don't want to hear otherwise from some stupid gamergater nigger who screams
>>>/pol/
every time some political opinion they disagree with is posted, or screeches
>GLOW! GLOW!
every time some vague wish for retribution is posted, or cries
>NIGGERPILL!
every time some cynical statement/opinion is posted when their favorite Zionist stooge fucks up again (but he's totally got a plan up his sleeve!)

Also I don't know where the schizo above me got the idea that cuckchan would get involved from. Is he planning on direct linking the new /pol/ on 4chan or something? Weirdo, huh.
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>>1563
>Muh schizo 
You're an example of why we don't need it. You cry about stupid buzzwords then use it yourself.
No one here wants a /pol/ we already discussed this in the Meta thread on /v/ and we agreed that a /pol/ is a bother and we don't need it because all it does is attract retards and creates circle-jerking. If you want a /pol/ then 8moe has one.
>>1563
yeah I get ya from what I remember about 8/pol/ it was basically a cesspit of cuckchanners but I would rather have be called /news/ or even hide the board if the need is there, like I said I just a place for general discussion.
Greenlight /a/ already.
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>>1563
>I am unable to express my political opinions in the face of opposition.
Make a thread on /b/ for your news ya' donut.
>>1578
You're not going to get a /a/, because Sturgeon is a coward and the janitors here are too mentally handicap to moderate a board.
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>>1589
The problem is that if an /a/ got made here, it'd either go to kime or dolphin, and I'd rather it not be made than either of them get their mitts of /a/. PLW is fine for now, so don't even worry about it.
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>>1470
HEY "MEIDO" NIGGER
Where is /a/?
>>1592
>The problem is that if an /a/ got made here, it'd either go to kime or dolphin
Then don't let it go to them, how is this difficult?
>PLW is fine for now, so don't even worry about it.
No it isn't, PLW suck ass and is filled with some normalfags. Vtube shit also takes up most discussions on their board as well. There's no harm in having our own /a/.
/a/ is offlimits until there's actually enough posters to support it.
No, (You) spamming endlessly about how PLW or smug sucks over tor doesn't make for users that'd keep the board from dying stillborn like what happened with /k/ or /tg/.
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>>1604
What nonsense logic is this?
>I'm going to take away /a/ so that users can't access it
>And I'm only going to put it back once the userbase goes up
So, are you stupid? Are you going to make everyone sign a petition to bring /a/ back? Or, if you're actually being honest are you going to just kill /a/ because you're tired of it?
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>>1605
we have smug/a/, plw/animu/, nano/a/, 8moe/a/ and then there's probably other spinoffs too
how many dead fucking shitboards do you want before you're satisfied m90
or do you just want to bitch
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>>1606
I'm going to bitch at anyone that makes dumb nonsensical decisions.
And nonsense arguments for that matter; dead shitboards by definition don't make other actually active boards die. I want as many dead shitboards as are fucking necessary.
So let's go on to "necessary". First of all, fuck you; second of all, who the fuck gets to decide how many boards are necessary? Fucking nobody, so fuck you. 
The only limit to how many people can make a fucking board is the site owner and potential board owners. Site owners can decide who makes a board and how many boards they have; board owners on the other hand should have no fucking say over how many different idiotic half-baked simulcra of their own board pop up. Sure they can sit on their fucking board name, but they can't just up and say, "Hey everybody no more anime boards because I said so".
This, in other words, is another reason why >>1604's decision is an illogical mind-bender.
Anyone can make a fucking anime board if they ask sturgeon nicely. One guy can't just hold it hostage, and implying that he can is fucking stupid
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>>1604
My brain is probably foggy right now, but I must know now. Who are you? If you are sturgeon please post with capcode.
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>>1607
>And nonsense arguments for that matter; dead shitboards by definition don't make other actually active boards die. I want as many dead shitboards as are fucking necessary.
They sure don't at first, but there's only so many lurkers around to stick with a certain board. Not to mention that being endlessly divided into a billion pieces is worse than being united. It's like balkanizing over and over doesn't work or something.
>So let's go on to "necessary". First of all, fuck you;
Thanks mate, it's better than I'd get from passive aggressive cunts, rare sight these days
>second of all, who the fuck gets to decide how many boards are necessary?
The webring at the time of writing numbers more than a hundred boards. Vast majority of these are empty boards with no traffic - and if we add 8moe's boards, fucking duplicates like /A/ that never really panned out. Now we can keep on splitting, but it's a pain to browse 6 different boards with the same name on it and fags will either quit (silently or rather loudly) or eventually push for centralization on one board. We can skip all that right now if you just use PLW instead of janny palace and stir some shit and FUCKING DO SOMETHING if you hate the mods there.
>The only limit to how many people can make a fucking board is the site owner and potential board owners. Site owners can decide who makes a board and how many boards they have; board owners on the other hand should have no fucking say over how many different idiotic half-baked simulcra of their own board pop up. Sure they can sit on their fucking board name, but they can't just up and say, "Hey everybody no more anime boards because I said so".
Well, yeah, if site owner decides he hates it then he won't do it.
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>>1608
I am a random shitposter.
Really, 3 replies? Are you faggots this hellbent on metafaggotry?
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>>1610
>I am a random shitposter.
Thanks for clarifying, but I have another question.
Why are you trying to squat on /a/ if sturgeon can just say "I'm not accepting any /a/ applications until further notice." with a capcode instead?
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>>1611
I don't know why he doesn't just tell them to fuck off. It would help to clarify a lot of issues with the current situation.
Although I would personally call this a complete non-issue that only a liberal faggot would take as a personal affront and an excuse to tirade endlessly about a tyranny that's only in their head. If it was a real issue they'd instead be doing what this site owner did about the fatchan-zchan situation. You know, start their own webring site and make it about /a/ or something, instead of ebegging in a meta thread because "plw vtuber bad" or "smug jannies del me help".

It doesn't need a real answer, it's only escalating in their heads.
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>>1612
Well fuck you too.
Your post made me think that you were another board owner making a stupid fucking decision at the drop of a hat because of their own userbase. I have no fucking idea what the trouble is between PLW, smug and here is and I agree fuckstains who disagree with jannies should make their own site instead of begging for other jannies to solve their problems for them.
Also go fuck yourself.
>>1609
Yes, fuck, I know the constant split fucks with people who want a larger community or more focused discussion. But, having dead boards at least gives lurkers the option of migrating instead of feeling like they need to complain or quit. Having alternatives to PLW and smug can retain the communities of each in seperate parts, instead of having it fray apart into nonexistence.
But yeah fuck if the boards that exist currently can work then why the dick not migrate there?
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Sturg will likely end up giving the /a/ to dolphin (by mistake) or to kime (because he’s a massive brown noser), and I don’t want to imagine being forced to use an /a/ by either of them, so I’ll stick with PLW, thanks. I also noticed the posting styles of some people ITT from the cafe threads and the IRC channel from smug. Makes you think.
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>>1615
>>1592
YEAH REALLY MAKES YOU THINK
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Why not just give >>1470 an /a/ board and if it ends up with no activity, delete it? As simple as that. I even doubt it will end up dead since it seems from not only high demand for it but from friday night threads and other threads that a lot of anons would like to be able to talk about anime here.
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>>1618
I'll take the position of /a/ BO despite what I said in the /tech/ meta thread some time ago (I doubt anyone really saw what I said before I deleted my post).
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>>1619
>I'll take the position
*I'll still take the position
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I think sturgeon hasn't answered the /a/ question because he's concerned it will be another dead shitboard like /tg/ is. How many of (You) would consider migrating if we had one? Fill out a petition www. The more creative your signature the more points you shall receive.

>>1615
You can rule me out because I don't want any more shitboards ok. I already turned down a /b/. Only board I would consider taking is /pol/ but I don't really want to run that either.
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>>1627
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>>1630
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>>1631
fukk it here goes
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>>1633
let me show you how it's done nigger
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>>1634
Zzzchan is growing even more powerful as time goes on...
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>>1637
שלום
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>>1614
>Fuck you and go fuck yourself
Correct answer.
I do want another /a/ as well. But there is no justification for it because there is no posters visible. Henceforth i'll participate in this shitpost as a gesture of goodwill.
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>>1627
>This nigger is actually making a petition
What,
no, fuck--
I was joking, god damn it.
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I don't know what is that petition is but I feel obliged to sign it.
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zigger /a/ when??????????????/
>>1655
>Mark
>again
This petition is rigged, Mark signed twice >>1642
ProLikeWoah is temporarily kill again >>1673
Please create /a/ already onegai.
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>>1674
Wouldn't it be /animu/?
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>>1683
No because the BO is a different guy and his proposed rules are different than what /animu/ has. See >>1470
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>>1685
>the BO
the BO applicant*
>>1656
SIGN THE PETITION, DAMN IT
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>/fa/
>/vhs/
>/x/
>no /a/
That's really kinda gay.
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I hope my ID doesn't change
>>1701
/fa/, /vhs/, and /x/ are niche topic boards and are expected to have low activity. /a/ on the other hand covers a popular topic and other topics like otaku culture if allowed, so it is expected to have decent speed, just not smug average PPH for now. Sturgeon still fears of zzz/a/ either being a dead board similar to /tg/ and /k/ or afraid of causing board wars with PLW /animu/ or even smug /a/. Still not creating /a/ at this point is dumb.
This might as well be my second /a/ application but not exactly in the format sturgeon defined.

I intend for zzz/a/ to be an alternative to /animu/ and smug /a/ instead of being an unofficial /animu/ bunker. If zzz/a/ were to become an /animu/ bunker, the rules would be more different than what I have drafted myself. This board will have less strict rules than smug /a/ and I will never create a clone of Hoihoi or never add similar wordfilters. I'm not even from the smug meido team whatever that is called at all and I don't come from smug /a/.
Onto reasons on why zzz/a/ will not fail like the dead boards mentioned earlier and how possible board wars won't be so bad.
<zzz/a/ will be dead
It won't be dead if there are anons besides the petition signatures willing to post on zzz/a/. After all creating zzz/a/ is in high demand by anons who post in this site regularly. >>1618 did mention about /v/ anons wanting /a/ on this site, but I don't know for sure as I don't browse /v/ often these days although I did happen to see a few demands for zzz/a/ in the past, but I haven't saved the post screencaps and I don't know where the posts are.
<zzz/a/ will cause board wars
I can't say that no board wars will happen. I expect that other webring boards whatever those might be will end up bad faith posting somewhere on the board. I have doubts that zzz/a/ would automatically "steal" all /animu/ and smug /a/ anons due to the "no vtubers" rule I will never remove. But I hope that board wars don't happen.

So far these are the drafted rules, a little different from my previous draft. I might work more on the rules after making this essaypost. I don't intend to remove the "no vtubers" rule ever. Suggestions for the rules are welcome.
Rules
0. All global rules apply: https://zzzchan.xyz/rules.html
1. /a/ is a primarily SFW board. NSFW is only allowed if spoilered. Questionable SFW images OK.
2. Keep the topics related to Anime and manga, Light Novels, Otaku Culture, and other similar media.
3. Discussion about Virtual Youtubers and posting Virtual Youtuber media are banned from /a/.
4. Low quality shitposting will be met with deletion and an immediate ban (frogposting, wojaks, etc.). Otherwise, shitposting is allowed but try not to excessively shitpost or derail threads.
5. Name/avatar/tripfagging without a reason should be avoided.

Username is hisuimeido
Email is at >>>/tech/470 if needed to contact privately
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>>1702
>posting guidelines and recommendations will probably include a "we delete no-effort thread OPs without regard to replies instead of editing them" "stipulation", just like animu all over again
what is the point if it's just going to be /animu/ without vtubers
at this point you can just click the hide button next to /animu/ vtuber thread to make it disappear, you know
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>>1702
>It won't be dead if there are anons besides the petition signatures willing to post on zzz/a/. After all creating zzz/a/ is in high demand by anons who post in this site regularly.
>10 "signatures"
>half of which probably samefags
>"high demand"
doa
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>>1702
I'll add something else. It might be a good idea to create zzz/a/ under one condition, it must endure a trial run. After some time like a week or two, decide to either lock and unlist if it fails, or keep it open if it does well.
>>1703
I won't be including the posting guidelines thing on the /a/ sticky for a while or preferably, ever. I don't really need to include them anyways. 
I can't really give a good reply for the other question for now. maybe hours later I'll reply.
>>1704
I must've misinterpeted what I said about "demand". The petition shitpost thing can be counted as fake demand.
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Alright, the people have spoken and the circumstances are far different here than they were with /tg/ or /k/. Even if the petition is 100% samefagging people have been asking for /a/ for a while now. I'm willing to have a trial run, if the board stays alive past a certain amount of time which will be over 2 weeks. I will only give a hard date to hisuimeido as to keep this experiment valid but I want to give the board plenty of time to get established.

BEFORE I DO THIS I WANT TO HEAR FROM ANONS ON THESE POINTS
1. Why do you want /a/ here? I'm aware of some anons not liking the meido way of moderation on smug specifically but what would be the main draw here as opposed to /animu/? I've never spent much time on any /a/ so I'm not too familiar with either.

2. What does a reasonable level of activity for a new /a/ with two alternatives on the ring already look like? What should be considered a pass for the trial period? I'm not looking to set an overly high bar (anything's better than zzz/tg/ really) but I'd be very happy to see near-/b/ levels of activity. What are /a/nons hoping for?

My main motivation in being selective with adding boards is that I do not want a catalog of dead boards and I have made mistakes, not gatekeeping based on board focus. So far the two duplicate boards I've added have gone nowhere. This situation is quite different so I'm down to experiment with adding /a/ with a trial period. I'll email hisuimeido and we'll go from there after reviewing responses to the points above.
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>>1707
>1. Why do you want /a/ here? I'm aware of some anons not liking the meido way of moderation on smug specifically but what would be the main draw here as opposed to /animu/? I've never spent much time on any /a/ so I'm not too familiar with either.
I don't go to smug/a/ because of it's moderation so I can't talk to much about but /animu/ is kinda /b/ with anime theme, it's like 8moe/v/ most of the activity is in the meta threads or the vtuber threads which are fucking cancer, I want an /a/ board that's like zzz/v/ activity is spread out across different threads about ACTUAL VIDYA GAMES and there is actual effort put into them, and let's not forget that PLW is in life-support and will die out eventually if the admin doesn't do anything to it.
>2. What does a reasonable level of activity for a new /a/ with two alternatives on the ring already look like? What should be considered a pass for the trial period? I'm not looking to set an overly high bar (anything's better than zzz/tg/ really) but I'd be very happy to see near-/b/ levels of activity. What are /a/nons hoping for?
I kinda want something like /vhs/ or above it, If you want more activity events streams and those kind of things help alot.
I believe it will be successful, just look at zzz/v/ it's the second most active /v/ out there, is because mark isn't the BO no there are many boards out there without mark, it's successful because of the content in it and people come here to talk about vidya games not about the latest twitter post made by who, and you can see it in the gamenights the threads in zzz/v/ reach 200 posts or even the bumplimit while 8moe/v/ threads don't break the 50 post mark.
So if zzz/a/ BO manage to fill his board with great content that makes people want to engage then no matter how many alternative anons will come here.
In summary 
LONG LIVE ZZZCHAN
SIEG KAISER ZZZCHAN
and I just want to talk about how good LOTGH
>>1707
What you want some random fags to chime in or something? I don't even fucking browse /a/. Here's my bullshit opinions.
1. More boards allows niggers who get fucked over in one place to migrate to another without hassle. Bigger boards tend to die explosively and require bunkers anyway. I don't fucking know anything beyond this.
2. You and I both fucking know that someone is going to shitstir about "muh pph" if activity is the basis for passing the trial period. A pass should be holistic and consider consider the outcome of a non-blind trial period. Are niggers going to be jannied left and right to increase "quality"? Are there going to be faggots that decide to (you) every single fucking poster so they can increase the post count? Is there going to be an excessively low UID count due to TOR usage? Fuck you, you figure this shit out.
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>>1707
>trial run, if the board stays alive past a certain amount of time which will be over 2 weeks
Time to samefag the shit out of this board for 2 weeks! Better activate my bots to help.
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>>1707
>Why do you want /a/ here?
As a user of both smug/a/ and /animu/, I don't. The primary "competitor" to a z/a/ board would clearly be /animu/. While I don't think we need another anime board, I do recognize the concerns about the /animu/ administration since it seems like they're not very enthusiastic about running the site anymore and keep forgetting the https certs and shit. There's also lynxchan which has a clearly worse frontend than jschan.

Their meta thread is essentially the same as /a/'s /cafe/, and /cafe/ seems to be one of the biggest criticisms of /a/ itself. A large portion of the board activity is in these shitty off topic chat threads instead of actual anime/manga related threads.

Vtubers are another concern that's in my opinion fairly complicated. While I'm not against vtubers in theory, the reality is that the threads about vtubers get closer to normalfag simp territory than anything else in these imageboards. There's an attractive concept within the subject (live anime characters) that's merged with this gay female-streamer-with-anime-avatar worship, they're often not even Japanese anymore. You could separate those two and get only the good part of vtubers given good enough moderators, but I doubt anyone is ready to either do or accept that. I don't agree with banning them for the same reasons as other people do, but I'd ban them just because there's already /a/ and /animu/ that have very popular vtuber threads, so you might as well tell people to go to one of those boards for that.

>what would be the main draw here
Talking strictly about how to make a board that stands out, I'd want an anime board that allows fun and "low effort" threads, but also recognizes the difference between fun threads and shitty cuckchan threads and bait. People seem very quick to merge funposting and aggravating bait threads in their head when they want to allow fun. /a/ has pretty high standards about posting and it's often very hard to tell what's acceptable and what isn't, and /animu/, although they claim very insistently to be "taking it easy", seem often very uptight and volatile about everything and are constantly on the lookout for various boogiemen (like /a/). So I'd like to discourage any and all meta drama outside of meta threads (which would ideally have a similar policy as the /v/ here, i.e. only created every so often). In some sense my primary issue with /animu/ isn't the board itself, but the attitude of the users.
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I just realized that other people might interpret "fun and low effort" very differently. What I mean that people should feel free to create threads like this without wondering if they'll be banned for it:
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>>>/b/7929
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>>1705
>fake demand
Rude as h*ck. I view it as at least 20% demand because something like 80% of users don't post. More creative signatures were worth more because it can possibly lead to oc on whatever shitboard you end up making. Treat it as a supplement.

>>1707
1. An owner that hasn't checked out or rulecucks to the extreme would be the main selling points. Less of a focus on vtubers would be nice for the serious discussion crowd. Both major choices currently feel like a black hole of vtuber worship and meta. As it stands, I don't have a good place to discuss seasonal cuckime right now.
2. I'd hope for 5 regular posters. Anything after that is gravy. My tolerance for slow may be higher than most.

>>1712
Don't worry I know what you mean friend. It's always means threads I like > threads I don't like. ;^) Granted, I think most boards take offense to frog/soyposting now.
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>>1713
>Rude as h*ck
I consider the petition as some real demand myself despite how I sounded like. Apologies if I sounded rude about the petition.
>>1711
>get closer to normalfag simp territory than anything else in these imageboards
Frankly, I read the posts in /animu/'s vtuber thread and I'd estimate 80% of the guys in there are cuckchan/reddit crossposters. They have the most normalfag-tier opinions. I also don't think they post on the rest of the website very much if at all so it does its job as a containment thread.
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>>1717
/a/ in general seems to attract a different type of poster. Smug/a/ has weird cafe threads with trannies in them, PLW has vtuber normalniggers. Honestly it seems like boards centered around mainstream passive media attract normalfags more than anything else. It's like how /tv/ has nothing do with television, /a/ is 90% cafe watercooler posting, PLW is 90% vtuber shit which isn't anime, all these passive media boards just end up being these weird entry points for lonely retards to circlejerk about off-topic bullshit. But I don't have a dog in this fight either way since I never actually post on anime boards.
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Why do you normalfags keep using this ploy of pretending that vtuber fans are the normalfags? And why do you keep talking about them so much? If you don't want your new board to include vtubers then just don't include them. It's that simple. You don't have to bitch and moan about vtubers every time you make a post. Or is that just exactly what you want to do?
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>>1718
>Smug/a/ has weird cafe threads with trannies in them,
smug/a/ is completely conquered now. This is because of their no politics rule, faggots can come in and gay up the place but if you say anything about it's politics so b&.
>PLW has vtuber normalniggers.
It's a shame because it's a good website with a good userbase. At least they don't leave their containment thread often.
>Why do you normalfags keep using this ploy of pretending that vtuber fans are the normalfags?
it's not a ploy, most of them are. You sound personally offended by the statement.
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>>1719
Because it's the newest normalnigger trend and retards trying to worm it into imageboard communities by falsely equating it with anime need to be put in their place. Normalniggers need to be bullied hard, you give them an inch and they take a mile.
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>they're actually doing it
I signed petition as the joke, but now I want to see how board will go.
>>1720
Of course it's a ploy, since you are normalfags. You sound personally offended by vtubers.

>>1721
Again, why do you normalfags keep doing this? Why do you pretend you're not normalfags and why do you keep coming here to whine about vtubers?
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>>1723
Uh, your imageboard credentials, please. Calling other people normalfags without proof merits an immediate withdrawal of your Class A imageboard license.
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>>1724
But you started calling others normalfags.
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>>1725
We called the vtubers normalfags, which they are. You called random anons normalfags, which you have no basis for.

In fact, I recognize your posting style, you are the evidencefag!
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>>1725
The other guy did and because he thinks that vtuberfags = normalfags, check IDs. While I personally think they're tolerable, having no patience for this after they've taken over 4/jp/ and animu is perfectly understandable. You're the one that went B-BUT YOU ARE THE REAL NORMALFAG with no argument. Now lemme see your loicense, please.
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>>1723
>n-no YOU'RE a normalfag for not liking people that are obsessed with internet whores
You're holding the burden of proof on this accusation right now anon. It's not up for debate whether or not vtubers are for normalniggers, but I'm certainly interested in why you think anyone that acknowledges this reality is a normalnigger themselves. Hit me with it.
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>>1726
>we
You too, while we're at it. Come on, out with it!
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>>1729
do you have a loisense for this arrest?
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>>1730
The baydge number is XXFG-T995 and I've beyn oo-thorized by Fishfield's boleece department to haul yer ass tah intah-net jayl. Resistaynce is a seveyr violashun will be met wit immediayte confiscation of yer shitpost roights.
>>1726
There are over ten thousand vtubers including people who work in Japanese 2D industries. As a rule someone who streams as an anime character is not a normalfag. And again you're normalfags yourselves.

>In fact, I recognize your posting style, you are the evidencefag!
So you've already lost and will now proceed to the "I know you, you're that guy!" phase that never goes anywhere?

>>1727
Anti-vtubers are normalfags. And this is all very similar to when normalfags started raiding 4chan and constantly whining about anime, like you're doing now with vtubers.

>>1728
Anti-vtubers are normalfags.
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I oppose this on the grounds that it will just divide user groups more, and that's the least an /a/ needs considering people are content with /animu/ and smug/a/, with the only opposition being one or two literal /tv/ niggers (they admitted as such during one of the zzz game nights, I swear unto you) having an autistic problem with vtubers. I also hate vtubers but I don't think this is necessary unless /animu/ started banning anti-vtuber discussion.
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<<1732
>no you
>reddit spacing out the ass
No more (You)'s for (You).
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>>1734
>no u
>reddit spacing
>bait
You have no idea what any of these things mean.
>>1732
>So you've already lost and will now proceed to the "I know you, you're that guy!" phase that never goes anywhere?
I know you are the evidencefag and nothing you say can change my mind. You post the exact same way, you defend vtubers with all your might and simply accuse people of what they themselves are saying. Last time, you said
>why do you hate vtubers 
and repeated that over and over. You can't fool me evidencefag! I recognize you for what you are!

also lol vtubers are for faggots and normalfags.
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<<1735
And you have no idea what a normalfag is. The only tangible response you've given is that anyone who watches anime can't be a normalfag, because they watch anime? If this isn't bait then you should probably kill yourself for being such a brain dead nigger.
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>>1732
>There are over ten thousand vtubers including people who work in Japanese 2D industries.
Streaming isn't work, pretty sure Team Gamerfood proved that decisively.
>As a rule someone who streams as an anime character is not a normalfag. And again you're normalfags yourselves.
Normalfags are often ones that WATCH them and vtubers don't communicate on imageboards. There is a sneaking suspicion that Ame low-key shitposts on 4chan /jp/ generals, but there's plausible deniability everywhere. Also there's commy They're the ones in youtube comments and they can migrate from there to 4/jp/ to obscure shitboards like animu. There, that's the basis. You still have none but Y-YOU'RE THE REAL NORMALFAGS 
Your next line will contain the word "antis"

>So you've already lost and will now proceed to the "I know you, you're that guy!" phase that never goes anywhere?
That was just a bonus because your autism does seem similar.

>Anti-vtubers are normalfags. And this is all very similar to when normalfags started raiding 4chan and constantly whining about anime, like you're doing now with vtubers.
Vtubers aren't anime, they're streamers with Live2D avatars. People "whining" often hate the "streamer" aspect of it, not the animation. That's all there is to it. They COULD hate the "anime" side, but it doesn't happen too often. If you hate them, argue with them and win.
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>>1707
>1. Why do you want /a/ here? I'm aware of some anons not liking the meido way of moderation on smug specifically but what would be the main draw here as opposed to /animu/? I've never spent much time on any /a/ so I'm not too familiar with either.
I don't simply want it as a replacement for /animu/. I actually prefer smug but I think the way it is moderated its uses are just too limited. By that I mean especially that it's basically all seasonal anime and it seems to be intended this way. There isn't really enough space for other stuff on there, so everything that isn't seasonalshit gets either bullied off the catalog or confined in a few threads like the backlog one. For example I want a fucking City Hunter thread and a fucking Space Battleship Yamato thread.
>2. What does a reasonable level of activity for a new /a/ with two alternatives on the ring already look like? What should be considered a pass for the trial period? I'm not looking to set an overly high bar (anything's better than zzz/tg/ really) but I'd be very happy to see near-/b/ levels of activity. What are /a/nons hoping for?
Of course it would be nice if it was really active but I wouldn't mind if it was like /japan/ either. Ultimately you decide how dead of a board you want to tolerate.
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Shut
Shut the fuck up. I don't fucking know what a vtuber is but it sounds like "youtuber". Youtubers are faggots, therefore vtubers must also be faggots.
>>1736
This will literally go nowhere. You will just keep saying "you're him! you're that guy! I know you! you made that post 17 months ago on WhoCaresChan" and never go anywhere with it. You think that merely knowing or believing to know someone from another board is itself some kind of argument, which it isn't. But you won't even be able to explain why it's an argument, or why it matters.

And this is a prime example of normalfaggotry right here. Being more invested in user's identities rather than what they say. Trying to stir up some kind of personal drama even when everyone is being anonymous.

>also lol vtubers are for faggots and normalfags.
Says the normalfag.

This thread makes it clear that wanting an /a/ was all along just a plot to whine about vtubers. That's all this is about.

>>1737
You don't even know how to link to posts.

>>1738
There are vtubers who work as illustrators and voice actors as well as doujin artists, you know-nothing normalfag.

>Normalfags are often ones that WATCH them and vtubers don't communicate on imageboards
Normalfags are the ones who keep crying about vtubers.

>That was just a bonus because your autism does seem similar.
See above.

>Vtubers aren't anime, they're streamers with Live2D avatars.
I didn't say they're anime, I drew a parallel between what you're doing and what anti-anime normalfags on 4chan did.
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>>1740
hot take but a correct one
well done
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>>1733
If people were content why would they be bitching about it for weeks? Are you insinuating that there are only 2 people ITT?

>>1738
>Streaming isn't work
If you perform a service and get paid for it it's not work? Wat.

>>1740
You aren't wrong.
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>>1740
let me give you a quick rundown
20-30 year old 3DPD hide behind a 2D anime avatar so they can hide their disgusting looks as they stream video games and receive money from anime watching beta males
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>>1741
no anon, you are the normalfag.
>>1740
Having a knee-jerk reaction against something without even knowing what it is... that's normalfaggotry.
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>>1743
It's the same bad actors bitching about it using the same posting styles and phrases. This isn't my first imageboard rodeo, and luckily it's only gotten easier over the years of userbase bleeding.
<<1741
>I didn't say they're anime, I drew a parallel between what you're doing and what anti-anime normalfags on 4chan did.
<you see these people also didn't like thing, and you too didn't like thing, so as we can see your honor nazi's and commies are basically the exact same people if you think really hard about it for awhile
It's time to ban this bait so we can get back to productive conversations.
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Since this thread is about to reach the reply limit, I'll just say that no matter what if anons (its obvious they aren't from zzzchan) try to argue about "vtubers not being normalfag and good", I still will never allow vtubers on my board no matter what.
>>1743
pic related is better
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>>1749
>I still will never allow vtubers on my board no matter what.
Good. Looking forward to your /a/.
>>1741
>There are vtubers who work as illustrators and voice actors as well as doujin artists, you know-nothing normalfag.
Yes, they can be employed there and often are, but for the purpose of this exercise, streaming isn't work.
>Normalfags are the ones who keep crying about vtubers.
No u tier argument. Refute my point - vtuber "fans" come from youtube comment section and thus are undesirable.
>See above.
See above.
>I didn't say they're anime, I drew a parallel between what you're doing and what anti-anime normalfags on 4chan did.
If you just lurked, you'd see that we only have /tv/fags that are of the type that you're describing and they aren't interested in /a/ at all. No youtube comment section normalfags for us please (still not refuted)
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>>1744
We know what many vtubers look like. They range from average to attractive. Also nice job being this hung up on someone's appearance, Mr. Totally Not a Normalfag.

>>1748
They kept going to 4chan to whine about anime and demand its removal. You keep coming to these smaller imageboards to whine about vtubers and demand their removal.

>It's time to ban this bait so we can get back to productive conversations.
There is no bait and there is nothing productive about your anti-vtuber whining. If you just wanted an /a/ without vtubers you would just make one.
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>reply limit is not at 500 replies
Unexpected. What is the reply limit on /meta/?
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>>1753
We hit the bump limit not the reply limit.
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>>1753
>prospective BO is a newfag
qeq
>That whole discussion about vtubers
Even if there was anyone here who likes them /b/ or /japan/ would be the more appropriate place for them anyway.
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>>1751
Streaming is work, but that isn't even relevant here. What's relevant is that there are vtubers who work in Japan's 2D industries or in the doujin community.

>No u tier argument. Refute my point - vtuber "fans" come from youtube comment section and thus are undesirable.
Says the normalfag.
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>>1752
>We know what many vtubers look like. They range from average to attractive.
Wrong, you have shit standards. These girls are virtual whores, of course the appearance matters, which is why they hide it with 2D avatars. The "women" in this "business" are all absolutely foul.
>>1752
>They kept going to 4chan to whine about anime and demand its removal. You keep coming to these smaller imageboards to whine about vtubers and demand their removal.
It's cool man, you can stay on cuck/jp/, smug/a/ and /animu/ and enjoy your threads, we will have a board free of that cancer. What's the problem here? Seems like it bothers you people say your whores are normalfag bait.
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>>1756
>/b/ or /japan/
Fuck off those boards are nice don't ruin them with that shit.
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<<1752
>They kept going to 4chan to whine about anime and demand its removal. You keep coming to these smaller imageboards to whine about vtubers and demand their removal.
No one is going to either of these boards to complain about vtubers. People are literally telling faggots like you to fuck off back to those boards if you want to circlejerk about vtubers. What you're saying is not even remotely fucking analogous you stupid subhuman faggot. You deserve a bullet in your faggot roastie worshipping skull for being this fucking stupid you retarded faggot.
<<1757
>streaming is work
Everyone report this nigger.
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>>1743
>If you perform a service and get paid for it it's not work? Wat.
You are begging for donations as a service. On a stream. It's classified as "work" because you have a contract and there are people lending you technology for it but it's like being employed for a fundraiser given the commission that youtube gets from superchats.
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>>1760
I don't know why you're picking the vtuber hill to die on when it's only one containment thread on /animu/. Smug/a/ I could understand since it's so ingrained in their shitty board, but it's not taking away from discussion or preventing you from posting normally. Seems very artificial, all this hub-bub.
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>>1758
You don't even know what they look like. You're just blindly assuming things.

>These girls are virtual whores, of course the appearance matters
More normalfag shit. Vtubing has nothing to do with whoring.

>The "women" in this "business" are all absolutely foul.
He says, with absolutely zero knowledge of anyone in the business.

>It's cool man, you can stay on cuck/jp/, smug/a/ and /animu/ and enjoy your threads, we will have a board free of that cancer. What's the problem here? Seems like it bothers you people say your whores are normalfag bait.
I don't post in any of those places.

They aren't whores or bait, and you are a normalfag.

>>1760
You're the ones who brought up vtubers. You're the ones who keep whining about them. You could just go and create your own board with no vtubers allowed if that's what you actually wanted to do, but that's not what you want to do. You just want to complain.

>What you're saying is not even remotely fucking analogous you stupid subhuman faggot. You deserve a bullet in your faggot roastie worshipping skull for being this fucking stupid you retarded faggot.
Dumb normalfag.

>Everyone report this nigger.
For what? Stating a fact?
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>>1759
Sure, but they shouldn't be /a/'s problem either. It makes no sense except on a site like smug that doesn't have that many different boards to begin with.
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>>1757
>Streaming is work
see >>1761
>What's relevant is that there are vtubers who work in Japan's 2D industries or in the doujin community.
Well, yes, VTUBERS are generally not normalfags, their viewers are. It's still youtube no matter how you slice it.
>Says the normalfag.
Okay fuck it.
DIE TEEN
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>>1762
I'm not dying no any hill. I don't care about /a/, I don't care about PLW, I don't care about whether or not any /a/ board allows or disallows vtubers. I'm not arguing about whether or not vtubers should or should not be allowed anywhere.
<<1763
Bait
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>>1763
ok anon but where is the evidence?
>>1761
I don't like it but I will acknowledge that it exists. Hell, it's because it was started to be treated as a job that the hobby got co-opted in the first place. Just like making Youtube videos.

>>1762
The funposting has intensified since the fish announcement.

>>1763
>You don't even know what they look like.
Weren't most of their faces leaked a while ago?
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>>1762
>Smug/a/ I could understand since it's so ingrained in their shitty board
The fuck are you talking about? Both smug/a/ and /animu/ are the exact same when it comes to vtubers; they're contained in their own threads if you don't count the people who complain about vtubers.
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>>1768
>Weren't most of their faces leaked a while ago?
Yes and they're all, without exception, ugly. That's why they use a 2D avatar.
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>>1766
Not just you, but every else in the thread who seems to fear vtuber posting and claims it is akin to devilry, and poisons whatever board they're allowed to be discussed on.

>>1769
But on PLW you don't get banned for insulting vtubers. Retard. You would know this if you weren't a bad actor here to stir shit up.
>>1765
Streaming is work. They get paid by their audience, by youtube, and by merchandise sales and live events.

>Well, yes, VTUBERS are generally not normalfags, their viewers are. It's still youtube no matter how you slice it.
Everyone uses youtube, including you.

>>1768
Vtubers aren't just hololive. Some of them have public personas and their appearance isn't a secret. You also can't trust those leaks because anyone can edit them any way they like and you'll have no idea if it's real or not.

>>1770
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>1771
>But on PLW you don't get banned for insulting vtubers. Retard. You would know this if you weren't a bad actor here to stir shit up.
no, but I did get perma-banned by the new mod for making a shitpost about how china is cucking all vtubers fans and there's nothing they can do about it. You could go and confirm that I'm not lying, but conveniently all ban logs are hidden.
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>>1771
>But on PLW you don't get banned for insulting vtubers.
>You would know this if you weren't a bad actor here to stir shit up.
The only way you would know the extent of this aspect is if you're one of the people who constantly shit about vtubers to the point of being eventually banned for it.
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>>1772
>You have no idea what you are talking about.
evidence please
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>>1771
>Not just you, but every else in the thread who seems to fear vtuber posting and claims it is akin to devilry, and poisons whatever board they're allowed to be discussed on.
I don't fear it, it's just that the way this is going, /animu/ will house most of the "antis" that are migrating from holo/jp/ generals over at cuckchan. They're gonna spill over to the rest of the board and while I do not mind that at all since it's new blood, niggers will BITCH and that's a crisis. /animu/ has been a stout proponent of using the DEL button on things they claim as "low quality" and they will not stop, ever, so it's prudent to throw them under the bus here for the sake of the free shitposts AND potential board quality. The split means we get less anons, but them's the breaks.

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY
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>>1771
No one fears anything faggot. For all your posting about how artificial people not liking vtuber normalniggers is, you ironically seem to be the only one upset with anime discussion being siphoned onto a board that is actually strictly about anime and not some weird catch all for normalnigger weeb culture. Some might even call it projection.

I don't post on anime boards and don't care about anime boards. But I sure hope Sturgeon makes it and this BO is competent just to make vtuber normalniggers foam at the mouth.
<<1772
Bait stop responding to this bait.
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>>1775
See my previous posts. You are flailing around cluelessly with no knowledge of the topic.

>>1777
There was no bait. There is no bait anywhere. Bait is not real. Nobody is baiting anywhere. "Bait" is just something you conjure into being whenever you're losing an argument.
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So this is what next generation of teenbros looks like.

>>1778
hi teen
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<<1778
Bait, report and ignore
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>>1778
> Bait is not real. Nobody is baiting anywhere.
Do you have any evidence of this?
>>1779
Projection.

>>1780
No. There is no bait. You just lost. That's all there is to it. You lost and now you try to get out of the situation by pretending that you were merely being baited.

Nobody baits in this day and age.
>>1778
No it is bait. It's impossible to lose this argument as proven by >>1774. Isn't it strange that everytime /a/ is being brought up it is being derailed by anti-vtuber posts when there are no real pro-vtuber posts in the first place?
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>>1772
>Streaming is work. They get paid by their audience, by youtube, and by merchandise sales and live events.
And yet they beg for money and their income is mostly from donations. That's BY DEFINITION work, but in practice begging. You can probably have an argument that their company could also THEORETICALLY be in the business of money laundering given the yak connections.
>Everyone uses youtube, including you.
Everyone drinks water. Do you know who else drank water? HITLER
>Vtubers aren't just hololive. Some of them have public personas and their appearance isn't a secret. You also can't trust those leaks because anyone can edit them any way they like and you'll have no idea if it's real or not.
Grain of salt for every suspicious thing on the internet. But also acknowledgement.
>You have no idea what you are talking about.
you bit the hook
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>>1773
The new mod has made at least one mistake in the past I know of, and I don't know the extent of the truth in your post - for all I know you could have been spamming or trying to post gravure - but know that ban logs are also hidden from the mods themselves. I'd bet only the admins have access to them, and we both know the kind of dead end that is for PLW. 

>>1776
This may surprise you, being a tengu and all, but leaving shitposts up and removing shitposts up will make people leave/wary in equal measure. Leaving shitposts up makes the mods seem weak and the posters will want to migrate somewhere they feel is better kept clean. Banning shitposts might anger people such as yourself who fear the mods are too overbearing. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't, but I'll say moderation is fine in moderation (get it)? Otherwise everything turns into /b/ and I'll bet the bottom dollar that that would piss more people off than a moderator making a wrong decision once in a while. 

>>1777
Why should I care about your opinion on the governance of an /a/ if you don't care about /a/ boards? Would I expect one to know how to run an /x/ board if they never, nor will they ever, post on an /x/ board? Surely even you can see the failure in such a statement.
>>1785
>Why should I care about your opinion on the governance of an /a/ if you don't care about /a/ boards?
You shouldn't. It's not my job to convince you to care about my posts. You either find them compelling or you don't, it makes no difference to me.
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>>1784
If you go to see a comedian or singer you are paying them money for performing for you.

And since you don't watch vtubers and have no idea what you're talking about, you aren't aware that they don't go around begging for superchats. There isn't even any need to. If superchats are open then people will superchat.

>Everyone drinks water. Do you know who else drank water? HITLER
Non-sequitur. You can't use watching youtube as an argument when everyone watches youtube.

>Grain of salt for every suspicious thing on the internet. But also acknowledgement.
?

>you bit the hook
No, I didn't.
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Thanks for the PPH boost
>>1785
>The new mod has made at least one mistake in the past I know of, and I don't know the extent of the truth in your post - for all I know you could have been spamming or trying to post gravure - but know that ban logs are also hidden from the mods themselves. I'd bet only the admins have access to them, and we both know the kind of dead end that is for PLW. 
Yeah, I can't prove it obviously, so you can only take it at my word but I only posted one post. I can't quote it perfectly but it was along the lines of "vtuber fans get cucked out of yet another vtuber while all they can do is cry about it. China always wins". Perma-banned.
ban reason was something like "chinese chill/ wumao" or something like that. If you think I deserved it, that's up to you. I don't think I did, new mod is probably a vtuber fan that got upset about it, I would imagine.
>>1786
That does inherently give me less of a reason to consider your opinions, then. Same goes for anyone else here, I'm sure. You might be able to convince some people, perhaps the ones who aren't as objective as I am, but if you don't know the full story and the nuances of /a/ then your opinions are flawed.
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>>1785
>Leaving shitposts up makes the mods seem weak
Wrong. It takes true strength not to smash that motherfucking del button whenever you see something that makes you upset. You may not have seen this but sometimes when a mod makes a single mistake they lose their board. Like when old /k/ BO ousted himself as a glower recently. It's all about perception of those in power.
>>1790
I know all I need to know, that vtubers aren't anime. If an anime board allows vtuber it is essentially the same thing as a /v/ board having a thread dedicated to e-celebs. If that specific /v/'s culture permits that kind of normalfaggotry then so be it, but evidently there's an /a/ audience for people that don't want threads dedicated to retarded e-celebs. You've yet to propose a compelling argument in favor of them despite claiming to be intimately involved in the boards cultures. There's nothing artificial about wanting a /a/ free from e-celeb threads. Just as there's nothing artificial about z/v/ wanting a /v/ free from Mark's bizarre catch all /pol/ GG threads. The only thing artificial here is your concern trolling.

The roasties aren't sending their best.
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>>1792
Yes I'm sure you're a real expert on the degree to which vtubers are roasties.
>>1785
>This may surprise you, being a tengu and all, but leaving shitposts up and removing shitposts up will make people leave/wary in equal measure. Leaving shitposts up makes the mods seem weak and the posters will want to migrate somewhere they feel is better kept clean.
What is "right" and what is "wrong" in these kinds of things is malleable, not constant. A board consists of posters and if you let them post good shit the board will be better for it and /animu/ baleets "low-effort" as if it can't produce "high-effort".
>Banning shitposts might anger people such as yourself who fear the mods are too overbearing. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't, but I'll say moderation is fine in moderation (get it)? Otherwise everything turns into /b/ and I'll bet the bottom dollar that that would piss more people off than a moderator making a wrong decision once in a while. 
You don't have enough traffic for washing over "trash" content with good content
accept the good shitposts and make good from them
>>1792
Yeah, I agree with pretty much all you said. I like /animu/ but it does suck that 80-90% of the posts are in vtuber threads and the meta thread.
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>>1787
>If you go to see a comedian or singer you are paying them money for performing for you.
Most standardize their performance (comedy act, opera, etc) and do not fucking beg their audience for money.

>And since you don't watch vtubers and have no idea what you're talking about, you aren't aware that they don't go around begging for superchats. There isn't even any need to. If superchats are open then people will superchat.

But I do, gura is best homolive but Eileen mafia is better wwww, I just recognize faults of their medium and criticize them for it. They do not beg, but their business model REVOLVES around them getting superchats and they often do multiple "supachat reading" streams for the explicit purpose of just sitting on a computer behind the Live2D avatar and getting money. The intention is e-begging, even if the act is anything but. It's like AGDQ but on steroids

>Non-sequitur. You can't use watching youtube as an argument when everyone watches youtube.
Average youtube comment section contains the same problems that reddit comment section has. This is by design. Therefore, bringing USERS WITH SIMILAR DISPOSITION as REDDIT with SIMILAR IDEALS OF WHAT POSTING SHOULD BE, EVEN IF "EVERYONE" DOES IT it is to be avoided. This is the basic argument and yet to be refuted.
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>>1796
buddy, this is the evidencefag, the same guy who said reddit is better than /animu/ because reddit white knights vtubers more. keep that in mind.
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>>1797
yes, I know, I just want to exhaust him so he doesn't think he was right the next day
and if he DOES pull that, I'm gonna call him jewish
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>>1797
>that timestamp
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see >>>/b/10770
its the same shit happening all over again
take it easy janny cocksuckers holy fuck
>>1796
I don't see what standardization has to do with anything, and again there is no begging going on.

>I just recognize faults of their medium and criticize them for it. They do not beg, but their business model REVOLVES around them getting superchats and they often do multiple "supachat reading" streams for the explicit purpose of just sitting on a computer behind the Live2D avatar and getting money. The intention is e-begging, even if the act is anything but. It's like AGDQ but on steroids
Their business model is fundamentally not unique, the only difference is that it takes place on the internet, and your boomer-tier brains thinks this somehow makes it completely different.

Superchat readings are for reading superchats that were already submitted.

>Average youtube comment section contains the same problems that reddit comment section has. This is by design. Therefore, bringing USERS WITH SIMILAR DISPOSITION as REDDIT with SIMILAR IDEALS OF WHAT POSTING SHOULD BE, EVEN IF "EVERYONE" DOES IT it is to be avoided. This is the basic argument and yet to be refuted.
I see people like you on reddit all the time.

>>1797
reddit is better than /animu/, and I haven't said anything about any white knighting.

And again, this is not going to go anywhere. It has never went anywhere in the history of imageboards.

>>1798
But I am right.
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I searched for 1 and a half minute on the internet so I'm basically an expert in all work related matters.

The definition of neither "job" nor "work" is not specific enough to determine how you make money, only that you do something and get money from it. Therefore being a vtuber or a streamer can be considered a job and work. "Work" also does not have to involve payment at all, if you're a slave cutting bricks for no payment, you're still doing work. However work is specifically about exerting effort, so if you make a website and get money from it while sitting on a beach chair in Hawaii, then you have a job as the owner of the website but you're mostly not doing any work.
see, knew I'd get him to admit he's evidence fag if I kept pressing it. 
my autism detective skills win again
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>>1801
>I don't see what standardization has to do with anything,
It MAKES the show RESPECTABLE, as it's possible to improve the pre-defined act or train in it's performance, if it's to be something made on the spot like improvisation comedy. The format contributes to increase in proficiency. Here you just have streaming schedules. No proper format or attempt at it.
>and again there is no begging going on.
The intent of "superchat reading" streams is "receiving superchats and then using the stream to read them". No overt intent, but it's THERE. THAT is e-begging and it's on another level.

>Their business model is fundamentally not unique, the only difference is that it takes place on the internet, and your boomer-tier brains thinks this somehow makes it completely different.
Streaming check.
E-begging AS INTENT OF COVER HQ'S MONEY MAKING POLICY check.
Everything else is irrelevant to this argument.
Even if the "business model" nonsense is not unique, there are plenty of prior examples (I'm gong to compare homolive to Ninja's twitch streams. Stop me.) on why this particular "business model" is a bad idea.
>Superchat readings are for reading superchats that were already submitted.
Yes, that does not contradict anything that I have said thus far.
>I see people like you on reddit all the time.
ogey
Because I've posted this very specific word, I can also come off as from 4chan, even if I'm not from there. Do you hate it?

>reddit is better than /animu/, and I haven't said anything about any white knighting.
I MEAN
HOW, IN WHAT FORM
COME ON LAD, GIVE ME A BONE HERE, I'M TRYING TO MAKE MORE PEOPLE FROM REDDIT JOIN THE /animu/ COMMUNITY

>But I am right.
[inhale]
WRONG
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>>1803
Going nowhere. You have no point or follow-up to this. You can't explain why this matters, or why you aren't a supreme normalfag.
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>>1707
Do you plan to shelf /tg/?
>>1804
> I'M TRYING TO MAKE MORE PEOPLE FROM REDDIT JOIN THE /animu/ COMMUNITY
why, stop
>>1805
>why you aren't a supreme normalfag.
you have supplied no evidence for this, therefore I am not obligated to respond. provide evidence and we will see. faggot.
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>>1807
He's bullshitting, I don't even recognize the posting style from /animu/. I think he's an undercover /cow/ard or fa/tv/irgin putting on an act.
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>>1804
Work doesn't have to be respectable, and what you think is respectable is not necessarily indicative of what someone else or most people think is respectable, so this is irrelevant.

And there obviously is a format to streams anyway. There a few types of streams that most streamers will do over and over again.

>The intent of "superchat reading" streams is "receiving superchats and then using the stream to read them". No overt intent, but it's THERE. THAT is e-begging and it's on another level.
It's etiquette to thank people by name when they give a superchat. Popular streamers get so many that they'll either read them after the stream has basically ended, or they have a separate stream where they read them. There is no begging going on here.

>Streaming check.
Streaming doesn't change anything.

>E-begging AS INTENT OF COVER HQ'S MONEY MAKING POLICY check.
It's not begging, and vtubers != hololive.

>there are plenty of prior examples (I'm gong to compare homolive to Ninja's twitch streams. Stop me.) on why this particular "business model" is a bad idea.
Your opinions on the viability of the business model is also not relevant.

>Yes, that does not contradict anything that I have said thus far.
You said: "they often do multiple "supachat reading" streams for the explicit purpose of just sitting on a computer behind the Live2D avatar and getting money." They are not getting money, they are reading superchats that were already sent.

>Because I've posted this very specific word, I can also come off as from 4chan, even if I'm not from there. Do you hate it?
I didn't say anything about a specific word.

>HOW, IN WHAT FORM
They don't hate vtubers, so that makes them a better vtuber community than smug or PLW.
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>>1807
I in fact already explained why your behavior makes you a normalfag, which you are now apparently pretending you didn't read.

>>1808
There is no act and I didn't come here from anywhere.
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>>1810
where is the evidence my behavior makes me a normalfag?
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>>1811
I already told you this. You care about identities and personal drama rather than the contents of posts.
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>>1809
>They don't hate vtubers, so that makes them a better vtuber community than smug or PLW.
literally copy pasted from the /animu/ thread we had months ago
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>>1812
where is the evidence that I care about that?
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>>1813
It literally isn't copy-pasted from anywhere, and why do you claim to have such encyclopedic knowledge of things that someone said on another site months ago?

>>1814
If you don't care about who I am or supposedly am then I guess you can just stop talking about it.
let me make some assumptions about evidencefag, some are confirmed some are up in the air:
introduced to the webring through /animu/ through AnimeBytes
is a white knight(confirmed)
loves vtubers(confirmed)
loves reddit(confirmed)
asks for evidence, when asked for evidence provides none other than "it's self-evident"(confirmed)
cannot fathom how people dislike vtubers
does not know how the webring originated(confirmed)
complains how reddit is better yet does not fuck off back there(confirmed)
thinks the 3DPD behind the 2D avatars are attractive(confirmed)
claims to not remember how he was introduced to /animu(confirmed)
master baitposter

other /animu/ loremasters will know what I'm talking about.
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FUCK /a/, WE DONT NEED ANOTHER /a/

WHAT WE NEED IS A /pol/ SINCE, RIGHT NOW, BLACKED.MOE HOLDS A MONOPOLY ON IT. ALL IN FAVOR OF A /pol/ PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION
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>>1816
The last time I used Animebytes forums, these sites didn't even exist. I did not become aware of the webring through /animu/. So not only is this not going anywhere, but you have the wrong person too. Even if you had the right person, the problem of not going anywhere still remains.
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>>1809
>Work doesn't have to be respectable,
Then I'm free to call it begging because donations are where the main profit comes from instead of work.
I wouldn't trust anyone that has "V-tuber" in their resume.

>and what you think is respectable is not necessarily indicative of what someone else or most people think is respectable, so this is irrelevant
We can make circles around "my opinion is X! each of them is credible so Y is subjective" but making streamers popular as part of your workflow instead of, you know, increasing proficiency in something as part of job experience is kinda ghey.

>It's etiquette to thank people by name when they give a superchat. Popular streamers get so many that they'll either read them after the stream has basically ended, or they have a separate stream where they read them. There is no begging going on here.
Re-read my post again, Cover. Inc. wants donations and they're the source of their money. Example - Coco, biggest earning homoJP streamer at one point in time went and bitched about how much money she got after youtube commission, homolive commission, yaks commission etc etc. So it's reasonable to assume most of the cash goes to them. The INTENT is to get donations so they do things towards that end. THAT is e-begging on another level. I'll add that almost no successful streamers outright beg to your face unless they're really desperate and will at best link their patreon or something.

>Streaming doesn't change anything.
playing a videogame isn't respected line of work

>It's not begging, and vtubers != hololive.
It is because they do things that let simps spend more money
Everyone else unironically does so, just replace cover with X, where X is their boss, themselves included

>Your opinions on the viability of the business model is also not relevant.
Ruyde. They're there as proof of model's eventual descent into something that can't be respected.

>You said: "they often do multiple "supachat reading" streams for the explicit purpose of just sitting on a computer behind the Live2D avatar and getting money." They are not getting money, they are reading superchats that were already sent.
So they can get more of them. Send superchats and we'll voice them on camera later in an orderly fashion. Then get even more. It's a successful tactic.

>I didn't say anything about a specific word.
Yes, but you've implied that I'm comparable to a leddit poster so you deserved that one

>They don't hate vtubers, so that makes them a better vtuber community than smug or PLW.
"Hatred" and "Lack of hate" is now an indicator of quality? Boy, how far we've fallen. Without "hate", harsh criticism isn't possible. Deriving from those you "hate" isn't possible. Without "hate", knowing things from experience with those you "hate" becomes impossible. Leaving yourself in a circlejerk away from adversity kills you.
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>>1818
that wasn't confirmed, the rest is however, and I do have the right person, that's all I care about.
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>>1819
You should be banned for enabling this dogshit derail. Kill yourself faggot.
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>>1817
just fuck off to mlpol or neinchan
we can probably shanghai them towards the webring eventually
I hope sturgeon knows my new email address and doesn't accidentally send an email to my old one I deleted.
<<1822
No (You) for the (((Jew)))
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>>1816
>loves vtubers(confirmed)
>loves reddit(confirmed)
>cannot fathom how people dislike vtubers
Hmmmm is pic related him?
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>>1819
honestly, the reason why it's not "respectable" is because this is digital virtual girlfriend simulator. the reason these girls make money is because they are girls, online. relationship starved men watch them and give them money to fulfill their biological want to provide for a woman. you can thank feminism for this development. it's worse for a man to give money to a vtuber than it is to pay for a physical whore, at least he's getting something from the physical transaction
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>>1821
No, now you get to SEE MY POSTS. IF ONLY there was a convenient button that let you HIDE MY POSTS from VIEW, it WOULD NOT HAVE to BOTHER YOU.
>>1824
I mean, what's wrong with them? Geniune question, they seem populated.
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>>1827
nein is tranny town and mlpol is brony central - aka full of faggots. Even worse than vtubers.
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<<1827
Yeah there's convenient report function. Too bad no one moderates this board for quality.
>>1819
Not being respectable (according to you) does not mean begging.

>I wouldn't trust anyone that has "V-tuber" in their resume.
Nobody cares. This isn't relevant to anything.

>We can make circles around "my opinion is X! each of them is credible so Y is subjective" but making streamers popular as part of your workflow instead of, you know, increasing proficiency in something as part of job experience is kinda ghey.
Not only is this irrelevant, but it also isn't true since vtubers often sing and draw.

>Re-read my post again, Cover. Inc. wants donations and they're the source of their money.
Which doesn't prove begging.

>The INTENT is to get donations so they do things towards that end. THAT is e-begging on another level.
No different from any other performers.

>playing a videogame isn't respected line of work
This is again irrelevant, and playing games has already become a legitimate line of work. Vtubers also do more than just play games.

>It is because they do things that let simps spend more money
No different from any other performers.

>They're there as proof of model's eventual descent into something that can't be respected.
Irrelevant.

>So they can get more of them. Send superchats and we'll voice them on camera later in an orderly fashion. Then get even more. It's a successful tactic.
It's etiquette to thank superchats by name. There is no way of doing it other than thanking superchats by name one by one.

>Yes, but you've implied that I'm comparable to a leddit poster so you deserved that one
reddit is full of morons who write essays about why vtubers are bad even though they don't know anything about them.

>"Hatred" and "Lack of hate" is now an indicator of quality?
Yes, because a community that hates vtubers is failing as a vtuber community.

>Without "hate", harsh criticism isn't possible
Your so-called criticism is worthless.
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>>1826
I like the ones that can shitpost and banter excessively. Even if the model is trash, has multple flaws in it and is youtube e-begging, I'll always like expert shitposting.

>>1828
There's also nano/pol/. If you want to go "fuck these nerds I'm going to make my alternate /pol/" you'll need to raid nein, nano and mlpol a lot to get traffic. Ziggers are probably not ready for that quite yet.
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>>1820
I cannot possibly be the right person since the last time I used Animebytes forums was before these sites existed, and since I never learned about the webring through /animu/.

And again this isn't going anywhere. You can't even deny that.

>>1826
There are male vtubers and in fact several of them are among the highest superchat earners. And you've always said this same shit about youtubers in general, that they're "friend simulators" and therefore invalid.

>it's worse for a man to give money to a vtuber than it is to pay for a physical whore, at least he's getting something from the physical transaction
Maybe the problem is that you think the only thing that can possibly be gained is sex. Maybe you're just a coomer.
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>>1831
The webring has its own community. A /pol/ outside of blacked.moe would get a lot of traffic, especially since people have been using meta threads/gamergate threads as their outlets for political shitposting. Oh, and /dup/. Sad that people have to resort to tvchan for anything.
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>>1825
brilliant autist anon on the scene here. let's go on a deep dive

I don't think so. I have never seen evidencefag refer to vtubers, or women in general as degrading words for females such as bitch, whore, slut, 3DPD, kikes of genders, coalburners, etc. I believe this is because he is a reddit feminist
evidencefag does not write entire paragraphs like that, he takes your post, splices it with quoted greentext and responds categorically
he also does not post overtly aggressive things like "you should learn to keep your mouth shut". the only way this would be him if this is a ragepost
I have never seen him use the word rulecuck
the patterns in his approach to "debate" is that he will accuse you of something and keep pushing that point without end. example: in the initial thread I came to learn of his existence, the line he kept repeating is: why do you hate Vtubers? why are you in this thread if you hate vtubers? - even if anons responded that they did not hate vtubers, he would still reply over and over with why do you hate vtubers. In this thread, you can see the same behavior by calling everyone normalfags repeatedly without basis.
the thread that branded him his moniker of "evidencefag" was him asking people over and over, initially, if they had any evidence that one of the vtubers was not a virgin or had a boyfriend, something along those lines. this then devolved into him replying to almost any reply with "do you have evidence for that?".

this brilliant detective's analysis: he (the evidencefag in question) is a chronic beta-male with white knight obession. it remains unconfirmed if he has given any money to the vtuber whores, but it is confirmed that they will never have sex with him.

brilliant detective anon, signing off
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>>1834
>reddit feminist
So yeah, wrong person. And still going nowhere.
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>>1835
you are confirmed reddit and confirmed feminist too, even if you don't acknowledge it yourself
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>>1836
Some other person somewhere may be a confirmed feminist, but he has nothing to do with me.

You cannot even address the fact that this is not going anywhere.
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>>1837
>but he has nothing to do with me.
do you have evidence of that?
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>>1838
The burden of proof is on you, but you don't have any proof so whatever.
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>>1839
the evidence has been laid out throughout the posts today, however, you have no evidence for your claims.
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>>1830
>Not being respectable (according to you) does not mean begging.
Intent is getting more donations and income is from donations. Argue.
>Nobody cares. This isn't relevant to anything.
I care ok.
>Not only is this irrelevant, but it also isn't true since vtubers often sing and draw.
Yes, what I've said before still stands, the medium is not aimed towards their improvement and thus they're free to stay cute scrubs UwU start arguing anytime.
>Which doesn't prove begging.
Read above and argue. Their income is donations.
>No different from any other performers.
Other performers get paid before the act (tickets for the show). The "we're gonna put a hat forward and perform in front of the metro station" doesn't count as not begging.
>This is again irrelevant, and playing games has already become a legitimate line of work. Vtubers also do more than just play games.
There are various arguments on why it's not respected, legitimate or not legitimate. Privateers were a legitimate line of work. They're still pirates under a different name. Chalk that up to a difference of opinion, but do not ignore the arguments and sweep them under the rug.
>No different from any other performers.
Read above and argue. They're kind of "work" cannot be put in the same category with average performers.
>Irrelevant.
Argue.
>It's etiquette to thank superchats by name. There is no way of doing it other than thanking superchats by name one by one.
And it's basic courtesy and means of securing more donations at once.
>reddit is full of morons who write essays about why vtubers are bad even though they don't know anything about them.
Yes, reddit is full of morons, but please argue. I don't consider streaming related to traditional "work" even if you frame it as tangentially related because performers exist. However, even performers can be skilled and not skilled and have variety of acts at their disposal. I can respect it BASED ON THAT FACT. Then your kind says the equivalent of "uh WELL THAT'S SUBJECTIVE" even though it's just video games or drawing or something else equally vain with cute voice. It's not equal to having a career as something like an actor, streamers improving because of constraints of their format almost never happens. coco stopped doing oc and now rips off pewdiepie clap clap next meme
>Yes, because a community that hates vtubers is failing as a vtuber community.
Well, yeah, let's not be a fan club. Realistic and rational perspective that can afford to see good and bad in things is best, even if the "bad" part is so loud types like you start screeching.
>Your so-called criticism is worthless.
Of course it's not worth anything to you, you're invested. My criticism is for those that want to look inside the hole, not fall into it. The format of the medium is trash and is a money vacuum for lonely people by emulating seiyuus and streaming. Don't get me wrong, it CAN redeem itself, but by god don't expect this old Volkswagen Beetle Chariot to run without at least six horses (read: actual effort and good content to make up for the shit format) pulling on it.
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>>1840
As I just said, I don't need evidence. You said I'm a feminist, so you would need to prove that. And you can't.

I assume it has by now become clear to the BO that these people have no interest in an /a/ and just want to whine.
>>1832
To add:
>There are male vtubers and in fact several of them are among the highest superchat earners. 
That's because "holostars" as a name is recognized, if it wasn't for that the whole thing would mostly fail.
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>>1834
Naruhodo autism sensei, it could be a rage post here is the post chain >>>/v/32298 so you can evaluate further, its pretty short.
His liberal use of the term normalfag make me think its him.
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>>1833
>The webring has its own community. A /pol/ outside of blacked.moe would get a lot of traffic, especially since people have been using meta threads/gamergate threads as their outlets for political shitposting. Oh, and /dup/. Sad that people have to resort to tvchan for anything.
You want old /pol/ posters to come back, not gamergays. They're over at altchans aforementioned. If you hate it, make ANOTHER ONE I guess, but unify them all with force ok.
>>1841
>Intent is getting more donations and income is from donations. Argue.
Which is not begging.

>I care ok.
Whatever. It's irrelevant.

>Not only is this irrelevant, but it also isn't true since vtubers often sing and draw.

>Yes, what I've said before still stands, the medium is not aimed towards their improvement and thus they're free to stay cute scrubs UwU start arguing anytime.
They improve at their jobs by continuously doing it. Their job is entertainment. Talking, singing, drawing, gaming, concerts. And how is relevant exactly?

>Read above and argue. Their income is donations.
Not begging.

>Other performers get paid before the act (tickets for the show). The "we're gonna put a hat forward and perform in front of the metro station" doesn't count as not begging.
This is a meaningless distinction.

>This is again irrelevant, and playing games has already become a legitimate line of work. Vtubers also do more than just play games.

>There are various arguments on why it's not respected, legitimate or not legitimate. Privateers were a legitimate line of work. They're still pirates under a different name. Chalk that up to a difference of opinion, but do not ignore the arguments and sweep them under the rug.
Your lack of respect for something is irrelevant. You are a single person of no importance.

>Argue.
Why would your lack of respect for something have anything to do with this?

>It's etiquette to thank superchats by name. There is no way of doing it other than thanking superchats by name one by one.

>And it's basic courtesy and means of securing more donations at once.
It can also lead to more donations, but how is that supposed to be a problem?

>reddit is full of morons who write essays about why vtubers are bad even though they don't know anything about them.

>Yes, reddit is full of morons, but please argue. I don't consider streaming related to traditional "work" even if you frame it as tangentially related because performers exist. However, even performers can be skilled and not skilled and have variety of acts at their disposal. I can respect it BASED ON THAT FACT. Then your kind says the equivalent of "uh WELL THAT'S SUBJECTIVE" even though it's just video games or drawing or something else equally vain with cute voice. It's not equal to having a career as something like an actor, streamers improving because of constraints of their format almost never happens. coco stopped doing oc and now rips off pewdiepie clap clap next meme
Streaming is work whether you like it or not. In the case of hololive they're even company employees who are paid some kind of salary. Your respect or lack of respect remains irrelevant. Video games are a professional sport, streaming is a way to make millions, and you are delusional if you think drawing is meaningless. The vast majority of Coco's content, which you've never watched, is not meme reviews.

>Well, yeah, let's not be a fan club. Realistic and rational perspective that can afford to see good and bad in things is best, even if the "bad" part is so loud types like you start screeching.
There is nothing realistic or rational about smug or PLW.

>Of course it's not worth anything to you, you're invested. My criticism is for those that want to look inside the hole, not fall into it. The format of the medium is trash and is a money vacuum for lonely people by emulating seiyuus and streaming. Don't get me wrong, it CAN redeem itself, but by god don't expect this old Volkswagen Beetle Chariot to run without at least six horses (read: actual effort and good content to make up for the shit format) pulling on it.
It's not worth anything to anyone. You don't even watch vtubers. You get basic things wrong continuously. You have no idea what you're saying. And you keep going on and on about things that have nothing to do with the topic.
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I too would happily support the existence of an a board that employs an immediate kill order against vtubers and their orbiters. I would also support the existence of pol except fascist already exists and is quite good, so I am sceptical of its success.
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>>1847
>a
>pol
>fascist 
AHA NORMALFAG DETECTED!!!!1111
>>1843
They're not holostars, they're from nijisanji. holostars is notoriously underperforming.

Kuzuha had the 10th most superchats last year.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSFCh5NL4qXrAy9u-u2lX3g/videos
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To potential /a/ BO: you seem pretty set in your ways around vtubers, which is good, but I'd like to remind you that your board is DoA if you allow vtubers, at that point you will just be a /animu/ clone. It might be DoA anyway, but if you don't allow vtuber threads, you will get a big chunk of anons who are tired of going on anime boards that have 90% activity in threads that aren't anime.
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IT'S LIVE
>>>/a/

>>1850
I made a statement earlier that I will keep vtubers banned from /a/ permanently, and that won't change. You don't need to worry about me suddenly allowing vtuber threads.
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>>1844
analysis: very low chance of this being the evidencefag. the posting pattern is too different. if it was a long thread of him splicing down posts line per line then breaking down towards the end into an incoherent ragepost then it might be, but this is not the case. the formatting, expressions used, and general incoherence does not match evidencefag's usual posting mannerism. Only the over-use of the word normalfag/normalnigger matches.

my conclusion: calling people normalfags and normalniggers is becoming more and more common as a blanket term to disregard anything someone says on the webring.
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>>1852
People in this thread have displayed a consistent pattern of normalfaggotry, such as what you're doing right now.
>>1851
Excellent decision. It will be up there with /vhs/, /tg/, and /x/ as far as popularity goes.
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>>1846
>Which is not begging.
How is it not begging? Vtuber's line of ""work""'s income depends from donations. Equipment and some such of big studios (cover/whoever owns niji) comes from it, presumably. They depend on that. The intent is begging and you've made no attempt to say otherwise.
>They improve at their jobs by continuously doing it. Their job is entertainment. Talking, singing, drawing, gaming, concerts. And how is relevant exactly?
They do not, continuous improvement yielded no fruit. It's all the same shit if you take long running vtubers. They at best went from amateur voice tones from where they were independent to slightly better ones and I've already provided an example where one "improvement" went into the opposite direction.
>This is a meaningless distinction.
It's your opinion. I can call it meaningless too. Argue.
>Your lack of respect for something is irrelevant. You are a single person of no importance.
Yet reasons behind the lack of respect still exist and will continue to haunt your kind.
>Why would your lack of respect for something have anything to do with this?
Giving streamers that use youtube donations to run a business with attention of millions of people and actively promoting them isn't fine.
And then calling someone that refuses to do that "normalfag" because they don't want to support that instead of acting like a normalfag
that's not fine either
refute reasons behind these things
>It can also lead to more donations, but how is that supposed to be a problem?
Treating donations as main income.
>Streaming is work whether you like it or not. In the case of hololive they're even company employees who are paid some kind of salary. 
By definition if there's a contract (there is). Someone could contract me to watch paint dry for an hour and it'd be the same kind of work.
>Your respect or lack of respect remains irrelevant. Video games are a professional sport, streaming is a way to make millions, and you are delusional if you think drawing is meaningless. 
And yet my lack of respect limits you because it makes sense. Cope. Video games are only a professional sport when made into a show (next to no market for betting on games, there's just tourneys) and streaming is STILL a money vacuum for lonely people, which is what I said before.
And drawing isn't meaningless, what are you talking about. I can respect commissions, but you're just doing random shit that tries to be vaguely entertaining with no expectations but to make the Live2D avatar look cute, sound cute and maintain a persona.
>The vast majority of Coco's content, which you've never watched, is not meme reviews.
It's news that she stopped making (again, vague attempt at good content), ARK server that got dropped because muh training, random let's plays and long hihi streams about nothing at all.

>There is nothing realistic or rational about smug or PLW.
There's nothing realistic or rational about praising vtubers

>It's not worth anything to anyone. You don't even watch vtubers. You get basic things wrong continuously. You have no idea what you're saying. And you keep going on and on about things that have nothing to do with the topic.
Well, you refuse to fukken read and that's what happens. Did you finish sperging out yet? Here's a clear and crisp hot take my friend. 

My basic argument is, most of vtuber industry's end goal is GETTING DONATIONS as it's the bulk of the profit. When your BUSINESS STRATEGY is GETTING DONATIONS, you cannot afford a lot of compromises on GETTING DONATIONS so your BUSINESS STRATEGY's GOAL becomes the same as BEGGING, GETTING MONEY FROM DONATIONS. STREAMERS IN GENERAL DO THIS SHIT. IT SHOULD NOT BE RESPECTED but THEY CAN REDEEM THEMSELVES should they post QUALITY or otherwise GOOD SHIT. Many vtubers DO.

Even if you say IT'S IRRELEVANT WHETHER THEY ARE RESPECTED OR NOT THEY WORK OK their BUSINESS STRATEGY REMAINS TO BEG FOR PROFIT.

I have given you multiple chances to refute or defend this. You say big agencies have a salary, yet money from begging directly contrubutes to their value, often more than "sub count". You did nothing but act dumb. You, my friend, are inferior.
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>>1849
niji is mostly a tightly knit group that really depends on collabs, so I've kinda shut them off my mind a little
they have things like puchisanji to promote them, so that plays a part in it
male streamers by themselves in this kind of setting are strange
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>>1855
>How is it not begging?
Because there's no begging involved.

>They improve at their jobs by continuously doing it. Their job is entertainment. Talking, singing, drawing, gaming, concerts. And how is relevant exactly?

>They do not, continuous improvement yielded no fruit. It's all the same shit if you take long running vtubers. They at best went from amateur voice tones from where they were independent to slightly better ones and I've already provided an example where one "improvement" went into the opposite direction.
Continuously doing those things makes you better at them. Vtubers are not magic and do not magically fail to become better just because you've decided for some reason that it would be more convinient for your argument that they don't. Your example was invalid because the vast majority of Coco's content is not meme reviews.

>It's your opinion. I can call it meaningless too. Argue.
The bottomline is that you are paying an entertainer to entertain you.

>Yet reasons behind the lack of respect still exist and will continue to haunt your kind.
Again, you are not important.

>Giving streamers that use youtube donations to run a business with attention of millions of people and actively promoting them isn't fine. And then calling someone that refuses to do that "normalfag" because they don't want to support that instead of acting like a normalfag. that's not fine either
How is any of this relevant?

>Treating donations as main income.
And?

>By definition if there's a contract (there is). Someone could contract me to watch paint dry for an hour and it'd be the same kind of work.
How is that equivalent to vtubing?

>Your respect or lack of respect remains irrelevant. Video games are a professional sport, streaming is a way to make millions, and you are delusional if you think drawing is meaningless. 

>And yet my lack of respect limits you because it makes sense. Cope. Video games are only a professional sport when made into a show (next to no market for betting on games, there's just tourneys) and streaming is STILL a money vacuum for lonely people, which is what I said before.
Nothing is being limited. You are not important. You have zero effect on vtubers. Successful streamers can and do make millions.

>And drawing isn't meaningless, what are you talking about. I can respect commissions, but you're just doing random shit that tries to be vaguely entertaining with no expectations but to make the Live2D avatar look cute, sound cute and maintain a persona.
You said drawing is "vapid." And now you're suddenly arguing that drawing only matters if you're doing it directly for money.

>It's news that she stopped making (again, vague attempt at good content), ARK server that got dropped because muh training, random let's plays and long hihi streams about nothing at all.
She played Ark three days ago. Let's plays and talk streams are standard for vtubers.

>There's nothing realistic or rational about praising vtubers
There is, when praise is merited.

>It's not worth anything to anyone. You don't even watch vtubers. You get basic things wrong continuously. You have no idea what you're saying. And you keep going on and on about things that have nothing to do with the topic.

>Well, you refuse to fukken read and that's what happens. Did you finish sperging out yet? Here's a clear and crisp hot take my friend. 
Where and how did I refuse to read? Where and how did I sperg out?

>My basic argument is, most of vtuber industry's end goal is GETTING DONATIONS as it's the bulk of the profit. When your BUSINESS STRATEGY is GETTING DONATIONS, you cannot afford a lot of compromises on GETTING DONATIONS so your BUSINESS STRATEGY's GOAL becomes the same as BEGGING, GETTING MONEY FROM DONATIONS. STREAMERS IN GENERAL DO THIS SHIT. IT SHOULD NOT BE RESPECTED but THEY CAN REDEEM THEMSELVES should they post QUALITY or otherwise GOOD SHIT. Many vtubers DO.
Superchats != begging. Superchats are not the only source of income. Superchats do not factor into a stream's quality. Your lack of respect is meaningless.

>I have given you multiple chances to refute or defend this. You say big agencies have a salary, yet money from begging directly contrubutes to their value, often more than "sub count". You did nothing but act dumb. You, my friend, are inferior.
I have consistently out-argued you.
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>>1856
Why should there be anything that strange about male vtubers being successful when youtube and twitch are full of popular male streamers?

Nijisanji is not a tight-knit group. There's over a hundred of them and most of them have never streamed with most of the other members. Nijisanji has punchisanji and other content but so does hololive.
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>>1851
Very nice. Almost didn't see your post due to all the autism ITT.
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>>1857
>Continuously doing those things makes you better at them. Vtubers are not magic and do not magically fail to become better just because you've decided for some reason that it would be more convinient for your argument that they don't.
Yet their efforts do not result in a better performance of a play or a successful band performance. It's still cute girls doing cute things.
>Your example was invalid because the vast majority of Coco's content is not meme reviews.
It's what she went to focus on after stopping the news column. It's like evolution but in reverse and it's been there for some time, too.
>The bottomline is that you are paying an entertainer to entertain you.
The same thing can be said about "sex workers". They do not tend to improve - for much the same reason.
>Again, you are not important.
Yes, this is shitflinging on the internet and many people think like me.
>How is any of this relevant?
You were claiming someone to be a normalfag just because they were "antis". You claimed I was that, too. You're still wrong in your assumption.
>And?
Having a donation-centric income will inevitably steer the one that depends on it towards pandering to common denominator as it becomes more profitable on paper (and probably in reality). The outcome is mostly obvious because we've seen it so many times throughout history - movies, vidya, books, it goes on and on.
>How is that equivalent to vtubing?
You have a contract and you fulfill it. That's your argument towards "this is work" is.
>Nothing is being limited. You are not important. You have zero effect on vtubers. Successful streamers can and do make millions.
Doubt from the basic premise of this argument "where does the money go" and "how does this operation is even run" is your limiter. That thought inside people's heads.

All that aside, I've given plenty of valid reasons towards why that's not a good idea to enable them or maybe even support them. Like you said, it does not matter because we're just "not important", so by turning that around, we're not your audience and instead of agreeing or disagreeing you choose to shout "ANTI".

>You said drawing is "vapid." And now you're suddenly arguing that drawing only matters if you're doing it directly for money.
As a focus of a "vtube" stream as an activity, you stream SOMETHING with your avatar. It is typical to play vidya or draw; and other VAIN things like these; VAIN. You have no vtubers that attempt to do madlad things like forge a sword with an avatar because it's specialized knowledge (though I'll admit there's probably some entertaining obscure specialized knowledge related vtuber with like 20k views). Instead there's people that play vidya, draw or equivalent. Most can fuck up at vidya and most of the people choosing to go full vtuber at least start drawing animu grils as per the nip hierarchy.
>She played Ark three days ago. Let's plays and talk streams are standard for vtubers.
Okay I don't keep up with this shit daily and last time she said on break. Wheres good content.
>There is, when praise is merited.
There is no merit in praising something like that without a solid reason, of which there is most often enough none. Cute things are cute, but don't let that deceive you - there's still a human streening
>Where and how did I refuse to read? Where and how did I sperg out?
The entire conversation.
>Superchats != begging.
Not overtly. You're pretending to be dumb or cannot read.
>Superchats are not the only source of income.
Major one of which things like concert tickets and merchandise depend on. Without it, these things would likely be very difficult to do.
>Superchats do not factor into a stream's quality.
They don't, what factors is company's ability of major streamers which DIRECTLY MANAGE THEM. Minor streamers survive off of junk food and attention but similarly rate of improvement is low and there's a much lower audience. Certain streamers may even have things like patreon which would fall under the same accusation of wanting to be donated money.
>Your lack of respect is meaningless.
It proves to others what's what with my argument, take it or shove it.
>I have consistently out-argued you.
Repeating a single opinion is not an argument, that's just repeating things. "vtubers" is a shit medium because it relies on pandering to earn money and most are biased towards earning more money. If you hate it go back to reddit and circlejerk about how bad these antis are or present a proper argument.
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>all this serious discussion about a board that will be dead in 2 weeks
I smoke my pipe at you
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>>1860
>The same thing can be said about "sex workers". They do not tend to improve - for much the same reason.
We call them whores, or prostitutes, you reddit feminist. And yes they do.
t. knower
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>>1858
>Why should there be anything that strange about male vtubers being successful when youtube and twitch are full of popular male streamers?
They mostly gamers they game and are western, nips just want cute girls, they really like them.
>Nijisanji is not a tight-knit group. There's over a hundred of them and most of them have never streamed with most of the other members.
Successful ones that I kept hearing about kept doing collabs with themselves. 
>Nijisanji has punchisanji and other content but so does hololive.
niji's thing was more noticeable last time I checked
could be wrong though

>>1862
holy shit just call them thots
and I do not believe a rate of improvement of high quality """sex worker""" merits attention
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>>1861
>2 weeks
You have too much faith in the /tv/ shitters who caused this /a/ to get created in the first place. Give it 4 days.
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>>1864
>if you don't like the state of /animu/ which has 90% activity in 2 threads that are not anime and an absent website admin you are /tv/
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>>1861
That discussion hasn't been about /a/ or (board applications in general) for hours. And it wouldn't make any sense if it was because he isn't allowing vtuber threads on there anyway.
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>>1865
>(1)
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If zzz/a/ is set to turn out like this thread then I don't want it.
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>>1867
>(139)
anyone have the cap of that one fag that tried to attack piracy in an 8gag thread and scored (160)?

>>1868
Do not worry. Hide my posts if you hate them - I'm giving YOU a special permission.
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>>1860
>Continuously doing those things makes you better at them. Vtubers are not magic and do not magically fail to become better just because you've decided for some reason that it would be more convinient for your argument that they don't.

>Yet their efforts do not result in a better performance of a play or a successful band performance. It's still cute girls doing cute things.
You don't watch vtubers so you'd have no way of even knowing if this is true or not, you are just assuming that because they a