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Onion may have brief downtime on the 22nd

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Have any of the cryptoanarchists thought up any solutions to the problem of fedposting?

Specifically the following playbook:
>Forum with actual freeze peach.
>Feds want to shut it down.
>Feds post cp on it.
>Feds claim, "You're hosting cp."
>No way to show that they've been framed.
>"Give us backend access to spam it the fuck with fedposting bots, or get shut down."
>Those that don't have a tor site get shut down.
>Those that do have a tor site, "Fuck off, we're resistant to censorship."
>Feds spam the everloving fuck out of the board--usually with cp anyways
>Have to put up a captcha.
>"Give us backend access or we shut down the captcha provider :)."
>Only freeze peach forums left are those with like 3 users who post every few months.
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>>676 (OP) 
This is not a /liberty/ topic, this shit happens to every single forum that is more radical than Reddit.
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>>677
oh right I also have this
>>677
1-Cypherpunk/Cryptoanarchism talk is as /liberty/ as it gets, what are you talking about?  Next you'll say "Don't post about Assange/Snowden because that's not /liberty."
2-The board is dead enough.  We don't need gatekeeping.
3-Your main logical flaw is that your nihilism is self-fulfilling.
>>676 (OP) 
>Feds post cp on it.
>Feds claim, "You're hosting cp."
That literally never happens. If they want you gone they take you down and plant the cp later. The solution is don't let them take you down by hosting on Tor or i2p or similar.

>"Give us backend access or we shut down the captcha provider :)."
Is this whole post because you are too dumb to solve the chess captcha? Jeez.
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>>680
>That literally never happens.
It's been happening to every imageboard that's not 4chan for about a year or two now
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>>684
>It's been happening to every imageboard that's not 4chan for about a year or two now
Feds plant the CP after they arrest you. You are just making up stupid theories because you don't understand that spamming commercial CP links is a business model. If the feds want to get you they will get you, they don't play stupid games like this.
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>>685
>spamming commercial CP links is a business model.
sure it is mate
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>only host on darknet
>stop being a pussy and get desensitized to seeing some cp once in a while
>use own captcha
>use proof of work (see kohlchan kohlcash)
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>the captcha provider
>>688
Follow the link next time. It just leads to a file locker
>pay $20 a month to get unlimited access
It's a business.
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>>684
4chan gets flooded with CP on a pretty regular basis, especially /trash/, which has no jannies.  It's been going on for years.  It doesn't help that if you report it there's about a 50-50 chance that one of the paint-huffing mongoloids gookmoot brought in from Plebbit to replace m00t's old mods will decide to ban you instead for "false reporting."  I'm banned there right now.

A smaller Kusaba X board I used to frequent got flooded with CP so much over the course of 2022 that the owner shut it down completely at the end of the year, because he and the mod team just couldn't keep up.  It was coming in 24 hours a day, hundreds, sometimes thousands of posts an hour, and it wasn't just links to CP sites, either.  It was actual images.  The thumbnails looked sufficiently sus to me that I wasn't clicking on that shit, nigga.  The owner said later that he tried to report it to the FBI, Interpol, RCMP, Australian Federal Police, and everybody else he thought might be interested, complete with server logs, originating IP addresses for the posts, and so on, and all just stonewalled him and said "oi wot's all this then? hackers, eh? nuffin we can do 4u m8ey, roight lads?" I have no proof, of course, that someone in some Five Eyes member nation had a hard-on for him personally and used state resources to flood his little hobby imageboard, that probably had fewer than one thousand individual total users over the fifteen years of its existence, to death with illegal material.  It sure does seem like someone had it in for him who had bots, enormous bandwidth, and an enormous library of toddlercon pics at his disposal for a year-long DDoS attack, though, someone whom no government on the planet was able to touch.  It strikes me as very odd.
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>>752
It's very obviously a way that they keep small sites not under their thumb from ever growing.  Kind of sad it's not mentioned more often.
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>>754
>Kind of sad it's not mentioned more often.
It is common knowledge or at least it was since the 8ch days, it just happens and it is the preferred tool for many agents like actual honest ceepee salesmen, glownigras and troll anarchists
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>>758
I sometimes read those old Usenet cryptoanarchist posts.  Full of hopes and dreams.  I sometimes daydream about someone posting:

"Hey guys, great idea; but what if the feds just flood your boards with ceepee?"

I wonder how those visionaries would've responded.
>>752
If law enforcement is out to get you all they have to do is raid your house and take away all your electronic devices while they "investigate". Boom, no more website no more problem. The fact that it never happened is proof that is it not the feds who are harassing your friend.
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>>694
it also leads to a tracker that shows you committing a federal offense by clicking on a link to a cp ad.

also, a paywall doesnt necessarily mean its there for profit, it could be there for restricting access, since they are more interested in getting the ib shut down than distributing pizza to its users.

but they will surely welcome the opportunity to bring the partyvan to any anon dumb enough to try and register thwmselves for a subscription to a cp site they saw advertised on an ib.
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>>780
they can seize your electeonics and plant pizza on it, but that works for vanning individual users, the feds want to shut down the site, so spamming ads to cp works for that end.

then if anons take the bait, they are all to happy to get those morons into the partyvan for that.
>>676 (OP) 
the answer is obvious: cp should be legal.
there is literally no good argument for why it should not be.
>Umm... I-If the feds wanted to get you (specifically you) t-they'd just s-show up at your door, haha...
You're forgetting that arresting someone requires boots on the ground; spamming imageboards can be automated.
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>>906
>Umm... I-If the feds wanted to get you (specifically you) t-they'd just s-show up at your door, haha...
If the goal is to destroy the imageboard then arrest the admin. They don't need to post CP they can just plant it on his harddrive after he is arrested.

>You're forgetting that arresting someone requires boots on the ground; spamming imageboards can be automated.
You're forgetting that spamming imageboards doesn't achieve anything. Mods delete it 5 minutes later and everyone moves on with their life. I don't understand why you're so obsessed with this dumb theory. The feds exist to arrest people. If nobody is getting arrested then it's not the feds. This isn't complicated by dude.
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>>914
You're glowing pretty hard.
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>>926
>literally no argument
I accept your defeat.
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>>942
There is a point to that.  If you've ever had to deal with plainclothes cops, I've noticed that one way to rat them out is to simply ask whether they're an undercover cop.  A normal ghetto rat will reply, "I haven't seen any cops 'round" and will completely miss or not even hear the accusation.  However, an actual undercover cop (or in this case, fedposter/activist/etc.) will get _pissed_.

It's one of the best ways to rat them out.
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>>945
Do I sound pissed? You're just wrong it's as simple as that. And nobody believes you have been to the "ghetto". If you unironically think I'd a fed because I rekt you with simple logic then that means you are so terminally online it has made your brain schizo.
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>>947
>Do I sound pissed?
YES.
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>>948
You are living in a different reality.
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>>926
>you're glowing pretty hard
>don't do shit goy only leftists are allowed to use violence

die faggot
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>>676 (OP) 
Is it at all possible to honeypot the honeypotters?
>>901
a
>>676 (OP) 
fedposting is cool and all, but what about fredposting?
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>>1283
Of course the Jew is trying to shift discussion away from this.
I'mma bump this since the USAID feds have been defunded.
I have always suspected the feds of being the ones planting the CP, simply because most people into that vile garbage go to great lengths with secrecy. I have a hard time thinking that someone would take the risk to post CP blatantly. On the other hand, the feds take no risk at all, because no one is watching the watchmen.
>>676 (OP) 
>Have any of the cryptoanarchists thought up any solutions to the problem of fedposting?
Are you asking specifically for responses from people who haven't gone full "just get rid of the feds" yet?
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>>1297
In line with cryptoanarchist thought, I was wondering if there was some sort of technological solution.
The best I've seen so far is simply text-only chans.
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