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I’ve been busy in the time since the death of 8chan, slowly becoming more interested in /x/ stuff. The biggest revelation that was new was everything related to space. I’ve been itching to talk to you fucks about it. 

This thread is for 
ALL THE FAKE NASA SHIT (from moon landing to ISS being fake to space itself being fake)

I’ll start posting some shit I have once I’m on my main computer.
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ice wall just makes no goddamn sense, hollow earth makes no goddamn sense and relishes in it
if I had to put my money on an obscenely improbable earth model relying on most of human knowledge being a multi-million-participant conspiracy, hollow earth is definitely my jam
I've been trying to work out a mechanism for universal gravitation that applies exclusively outwards and my only guess so far would be something like an electric repulsion from the exact center of the heaven-sphere, however it doesn't explain why outward acceleration decreases slightly the higher closer you get to the heaven-sphere, among other things

>>12 (OP) 
I mean practically yeah but it just seems convenient that flat earth starts up right when they began publicly chucking star wars satellites into space
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I mean all sound impractical but to me. Icewall is kinda cool and in a way would make more sense for the reason you said. But then gravity would still be wonky. Hollow earth is pretty metal. Imagine all of this shit waiting to be explored, what could even be over there and in there?
what does anyone gain out of saying the earth is round/flat? why would they bother to lie about it?
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Lying to claim that the earth is flat is incredibly convenient to a discredited and unpopular version of Christian/Jewish cosmology that at the very least Christian theologians haven't supported since around the 6th century AD. It also appeals to a gullible and convenient demographic which can be used to hawk wares, events, and gather views, as well as subvert into buying other, more profitable conspiracy theories like homeopathy. It's also very convenient to a great many people who want to see the West decay into an anti-science hellhole.
In other words, it's basically yet another attempt to turn conspiracy theories from an agent of curiosity and legitimate suspicion into profit and political advantage, but at least it's fun to talk about!
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>Flat earth
This is obe of the most retarded memes to exist. It doesn't make any goddamn sence, how does polar nights work then? How does satelite TV or modern internet work? 
It is clear that only northern hemisphere believes in it, because well I've never seen sun in a 90° angle like ever. Earth is technically flatter on the poles, but whatever. It's just dumb rednecks and dumber teenagers who believe in it.

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So what are Black-eyed children anyway? Ghosts? Vampires? Aliens? Interdimensionals?

The vampire theory seems to hold some connection in as much as vampires, too, traditionally are said not to be able of entering your house/sanctuary without prior invitation, bult ultimately they could be any sort of shapeshifters.
And I trust taking them in and supplying them with headpats won't do the trick, either.
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>>342 (OP) 
Sometimes when you're dying the coagulated blood can pool in your eyes in such a way that while still alive they look black. 

But other than that....have fun schizos.
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Wouldn't the blood only coagulate after you're dead?
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No. People get clots all of the time while still alive. Elderly people die from clots all of the time and it's one reason they are put on blood thinners in their advancing years.
Odin stories are about helping travelers because traveling is dangerous. If you don't help messengers and caravans your village becomes isolated and endangers it's self to larger groups of bandits raiding them.
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What if the Black-Eyed children were not actually fully black-eyed, but had dilated pupils due to being drugged?
I remember reading one theory according to which the kids are basically victims of trafficking and are heavily sedated by their handles to keep them complacent. I'm neither a doctor nor a psychatrist, but this might explain a) aforementioned dilated eyes and b) their strange, off-tone behavior, and c) their insistence of you letting them into your house/car because they're locked up in the pizza parlor otherwise.

I mean, if these really were some sort of supernatural creatures, I doubt a simple "No" from a regular mortal would suffice to turn them away.

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Post spooky dreams or experiences with lucid dreaming.
I really don't have any to share at the moment, but I do want to ask a question about lucid dreaming:
How the fuck do you start when essentially you just sleep and then wake up without any knowledge of what happened in between?
I get to sleep easy, but I don't wake up and stay up easy, and it's probably due to some fucked up dreams I can't even remember or anything.
Dunno if this is /x/ worthy though. Pic unrelated.
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just don't force it. 
for 2 months straight i've tried to enter lucid dreams. I was standing still for hours on my bed whilist taking lsd microdoses.
The dose day always gave me an amazing lucid dream; i managed to keep control and the visuals were sharp and clear.

Then I stopped lucid dreaming, I couldn't actually go to sleep anymore. I started hearing low freq. and high freq. noises that weren't there. Don't want to say that I got some kind of tinnitus doing that but it's pretty much it.
My dreams have been weird since then and I'm trying to not be as conscious when I go to sleep.

i just want to sleep well again
The main problem with lucid dreams is that you can meet unwanted entities. It's something to be warned about, if you are just starting you mind end up in an other place that what you planned. Just remember that you shouldn't trust things that aren't from your imagination or subconscious. Don't trust them, don't interact and don't accept things from them. We are merely ants at the foot of an hill.
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Had a pretty bizarre documentary-style dream where the narrator matter-of-factly explained that all of current existence came about through a proto-existence (think the universe before the Big Bang) came about as a result of proto-existence being raped by primordial chaos.
As a matter of fact, the current existence is not even real, but some kind of fever-dream the mind of proto-existence fled into while chaos continuously has been raping it for the last 13 billion years and counting. By the time chaos finally comes to a climax, proto-existence will come shrieking back to its senses and immediately die; bringing about an end to our dream-existence and pretty much anything else.

Then, the narrator explains, as all things seem lost, the sundered remnants of proto-existence will give birth to another sphere that might yet grow into another proto-existence - but with the unfortunately implication that it, too, will sooner than later will get violates by chaos, and producing a new dream-existence in the process ad infinitum.

The narrator went on about various philosophical musings this realization has brought about, but the only thing about that I remember was whether one
a) should go full nihilist because an existence born from something so horrifying can not bring about anything good at any rate and one should embrace nothing happening the same way twice
or b) willfully subject himself to (moral) order as establishing order is both a show of one's free will and an inher
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Well, you wanted an answer to "Why?", well there's your fucking answer on a silver platter, undisturbed by delusions and religious doctrine. Order can also be corrupted and subverted (loud exclamations like free will and inherent good are only worth their salt when the reason behind them isn't fucked with (read: use willpower)) and chaos's worth of creating order (order always comes out of chaos, though sometimes it takes longer than expected) cannot be underestimated. Now go have fun with your life.
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>and chaos's worth of creating order (order always comes out of chaos, though sometimes it takes longer than expected) cannot be underestimated.
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Sure tell us all how the egg dropped on the floor becomes a whole egg again in your alternate view of reality, friend.

>unencumbered by religion
>the only possible source of objective truth higher than this existence
<avatarfags as Satan
Well, at least you're not really trying to hide the deception you're spouting. GG.

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Is this stuff actually real or just photoshop/pareidolia ?
Does anyone here tried it ?

Picrelated is some pics taken from Russian ITC community in VK.com.
At least a couple look like something created through overexposure.

Also, how exactly do you get non-audio EVP when EVP boils down to Electric Voice Phenomena in the first place?

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What are your favourite internet mysteries? Cicada 3301? The one english thing that I cannot seem to remember.
So what is it are there any newer mysteries?
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Sad satan was a shit marketting technique and really cringey with it's random images shoved into the game.
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>marketing technique
I mean he posted it to the derpnet to market himself. The creator. Of which is cringey in itself.
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>boomer meme
Pretty sure gen x was not the boomer generation. 

Are we using larp correctly today because I don't think we are. 

And everyone knows about world but it got replaced by secondlife pretty sure or people would still be on it.
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As I said, it's either intelligence agencies OR some form of organized crime group. This being an international org is a foregone conclusion.

IIRC the guy who uploaded the first vid of Sad Satan either nuked his channel or at least has not been using it afterwards. Which naturally could still turn if the "second" channel to feature it also was his, but that seems overly complicated.

It was a LARP in the sense that the involved group did not so much delve into whatever secrets Worlds itself had, but rather had their spooky circlejerk by making vaguely creepy avatars and then pretending they were part of the game all along. Or more bluntly put: Instead of investigating the game, they made it about themselves.
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live action roleplaying is dressing up in real life like x character and then pretending you are it without being it. In real life. Like a live action movie vs a cartoon. What people do here is at most a cartoon, not live action at all. It's art, but the art is not you, it is not alive. 

I'm so sick of this shit. 

But at this point it's a pet peeve due to how everyone just 'accepted' using words wrong.

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Got any theories about what's happening in national parks/forests where numerous people - sometimes during the same span of time - just up and go missing entirely, as if they were wiped off the face of the Earth? Missing 411 is a good series of books concerning these events and the occurrences surrounding them. Finding bones of the deceased miles from eachother, full search parties being conducted in an orderly fashion and not finding the person until a day or two after in a location which was already searched, mysteriously convenient storms happening during the search or soon after, etc etc

I find it unlikely that all the people who went missing actually ended up dying in the forest/park they were lost in, considering how the bodies were almost never found. A part of me thinks it's some human trafficking ring that picks up lost people in forests and scurries them off in their cars where they will then be taken to whatever facilities they have. 

Is there any possibility it's something supernatural? Maneating holes a la the Sarlaak from Star Wars spotting the forest floors? Skinwalkers?
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Here's a link to the NPS Cold Case database: 
The list of people cycles irregularly (with the closing of cases with bodies found, NOT explained) and you can look through wayback to find descriptions of more cases. It might be worth the time to pin a google map with the locations each person vanished, to see if there's any pattern, shape, or places that have an unusually high incidence of vanishings.
A very recent high-profile case internationally was the disappearance and death of Richard Morris, a British diplomat, whose dead body appeared in a distant forest after vanishing on a run. One might cynically expect a murder, battery, or signs of animal attack, but in fact his apparent relocation and death came with no immediate cause or signs of struggle- in fact, police basically consider the death "unsuspicious," despite the facts that:
>They missed him on the first search, which included where he allegedly died.
>He left the trail, and the reason he left the trail at all is unknown.
>He had no history of cardiovascular disease and was an accomplished runner, so the usual causes of such spontaneous death are suspect.
Explicitly paranormal causes aside, it definitely feels like some MIB shit.
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>>435 (OP) 
>A part of me thinks it's some human trafficking ring that picks up lost people in forests and scurries them off in their cars where they will then be taken to whatever facilities they have.
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Good read, anymore on this?
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Not the other anon, but here something I found about a month ago.
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While I don't doubt China does some pretty ugly things to people, I do doubt they would go as far as to mass-import Americans into their country when they have more than enough people of their own to harvest. Not counting
 specialized fields such as sex slavery, where the fat old men may want a Caucasian blonde every once in a while.

If people are abducted in US national parks are abducted to pleasure a however vaguely defined "elite", I'd rather expect it to be for domestic consumption. Up to, and including cannibalism. Not because they believe in that Chinese traditional medicine baby pill hoodoo, but simply because they're getting off to doing things the average Joe is not allowed to.

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So, has anyone else tried lucid dreaming yet? Or rather, knows about means how to encourage it? I heard about all sorts of stuff ranging from Tibetan tea to shamanistic drumbeat music while you're dozing off.
For me personally, the most promising approach (mind you, I've never done this myself) came from a radio interview, where someone explained he trained himself to ask whether what he experiences right now is real or a dream every twenty minutes. And strictly so, complete with a phone alarm.
This eventually becomes so habitual that you're also starting to ask yourself whether your current situation is real or a dream even when you are dreaming, and hence breaks the barrier between passive and lucid dreaming.

It's too bad that the dream itself apparently does not like that and will try to pull you back into passive dreaming via all sorts of distractions (and apparently electronics of any sort tend to malfunction inside a dream). But if you can keep up, you basically can look down into your own subconscious and discover stuff your brain conveniently filtered out for you.

Another interesting part (and easy way to check if you're currently dreaming) is to look at any surface with something written on it, look away, and then look back on it again. If you're dreaming, the text should have changed, even if only subtly - words may have changed, individual letters may be crooked or upside-down, and so forth.
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I've always wanted to try lucid dreaming, but I can't seem to remember my own "passive" dreams in the first place. How do you start from there?
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The easiest way is a dream diary. Problem is that dreams are only stored inside your short-term memory, so if you plan to write them up, you need to do so fast.

So paper and pencil ideally shoud be right next to your bed. One "professional" lucid dreamer I read about even had both installed to be hanging right above him while he slept, all to minimize the amount of movement and conscious thought he had to invest before recording what he dreamed of.
The easiest way I know of is to pinch your nose shut. You'll still be able to breath and it's a pretty simple action compared to looking for something very specific (like writing, mirrors, wall switches, etc).
Assuming anyone has tried this before - do the figures in your dreams turn "hostile" if they realize you are lucid dreaming?
Not necessarily like in Inception where the entire dream in itself comes crashing down, but rather like >>459 (OP)  said - other people/your subconsciousness trying to stop you from remaining lucid.

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Everyone's familiar with Descartes' "I think, therefor I am", but how can I be sure anyone else exists? Is there a empirical method towards confirming someone's existence?
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>Yet observations are of fault, and every step of the twinning with the transcendental community is guilty of assuming the reality of the community in the first place.
Phenomenologicaly speaking, the sphere of intentional objects is the prime reality, and in that sense, observation are correct, because to transcendental subject obervations and reality are one and the same. Assuming there is material universe from which intentional objects are projected, the entire experience is already falsified, elemental particles and laws of physics being the 3rd party. The only non-theological way to connect the experience and a priori assumed reality is to attempt to cross the gap using as few and as small leaps of faith as possible.
>tulpafags, who commit every step of Husserl's proof of community- with themself, and no one else
That is, assuming tulpa does not have a monad of its own.
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>The only non-theological way to connect the experience and a priori assumed reality is to attempt to cross the gap using as few and as small leaps of faith as possible.

I'd go a step further and argue that it's ultimately pointless to wrack your brains over the potential truths that may or may not be there. Consciousness is flawed by design - that's how it is. We can't change that. Best we can do is take what we have and try to find happiness within it, even if it may or may not be illusory.

At the very best, I could imagine Tulpas are a "shut-off" part of the user's subconsciousness that has a (limited) consciousness of its own. Kind of like how you can run two different programs on the same computer. Or, more bluntly put, a voluntary form of a multiple personality disorder.
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>it's ultimately pointless to wrack your brains over the potential truths that may or may not be there
Denying cognition completely is a self-defeating position, might as well turn to positivism.
>form of a multiple personality disorder
Despite what they usually show in film, multiple personality disorder is not a state when multiple separate concious minds coexist at the same time in one body, but rather an occurence of single conciousness believing itself to assume a different identity, usually accompanied by dissociative amnesia, a rather extreme cause of roleplaying.
>but rather an occurence of single conciousness believing itself to assume a different identity, usually accompanied by dissociative amnesia, a rather extreme cause of roleplaying.
That was sloppy wording on my part. The different "personalities" in someone suffering from MPD ultimately are part of the same consciousness - in the sense that they could not know something the main personality does not know unless its stored in the subconsciousness.

My point is that Tulpas as they are (probably) are not supernatural entities, but simply a psychological malfunction. A child's "invisible friend" for adults.
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Why worry if others exist? If they truly exist, then those who are worth it, should be treated well and with the respect they deserve. If they do not really exist, then treat them the same respect, but understand that they are illusory figures, and do not grow attached.

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Since the board is slow, I guess a dream thread might be appropriate, as many people suppose that we enter a wholly different realm in our sleep.

I'll start with a short one.
>in 2nd story bedroom
>look out window
>see black cat walking in street front of house
>morphs into a human figure
>still black, like a shadow
>black figure makes a mad dash towards my front door
>just about shit myself in fear
>get over it in a second
>grab buck knife
>run to the top of the stairs outside my bedroom
>all lights off, pure darkness at bottom of staircase
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>>355 (OP) 
Dreams as a whole are an extremely easy and vastly underrated gateway to /x/ stuff.

>Why do we have them?
Dreams are the link between conscious and subconscious, they absolutely have a prophetic aspect, but most people don't realize just how prophetic they really are. If you can identify what creatures, things, and events happen in your dreams, they can correspond to how your day in the waking world will unfold.

Dream diaries are nice for remembering dreams, but having a dictionary helps immensely.

If you know how to remember and "view" your old dreams, you can even change the dream you had last night to influence how your day will go today.

>Sleep paralysis
Many say it can be used as a gateway to astral projection, and that kind of thing is a "depending on the person" type of deal. I had a sleep paralysis episode that I thought I was still awake, got out of my bed, and then it turns out I was in a lucid dream which looked like a teal-blue victorian-era hallway that was filled with darkness.

>Shadow figures
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I keep having this dream every couple of months.

>It's night
>I'm in my living room
>try to turn a light on
>none of the switches work
>or if they do, the light is very dim, flickering, and goes out in 10 seconds
>always feel a sense of urgency to turn the lights on
>always feel watched

Is there any deeper meaning than me being apparently afraid of the dark?
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My guess you probably have fears of the unknown, and/or fears of losing the truth to liars.

Not sure if that's exactly what you think the fear of dark means, but it's just my spitballing.
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If you want to recall more dreams, you should keep a dream journal. Just get a blank notebook and write the date and the dream in first person present tense (i.e. "I see a bioluminescent afro-american federal agent")
Do not analyze the dream as you are writing it down or fill out the blanks if you don't remember something.

If you want to achieve more lucid dreams or Out-of-Body Experiences/Astral projections, you should have a regular sleep schedule and don't drink alcohol/coffee, use drugs or take melatonin because if you are too deep in sleep, you won't either have lucid dreams and OBEs or you won't remember them. One of the methods to induce a lucid dream/OBE is to sleep for a few hours (say 3 hours) and setup an alarm. Once the alarm goes off, get out of the bed for like 5-10 minutes and then go back to sleep.

Also, I want to point out that clairvoyance and precognition are real and anyone can learn to do it, at least to some extend.
I've had dreams that predict shit that would later happen many times throughout my life, shit's weird but I'm used to it. Never really important stuff, just things that I would think back, "oh yeah, I dreamt about X last night, and Y happened today." I've had spooky shit happen in my dreams that felt fictional (which is fun because you can have power fantasies similar to the OP) but also spooky shit that "feels real" - these feel somehow malicious and caused by other entities and I can't explain it, but I think they are demons trying to fuck with people while they sleep. The one or more I'm thinking of have to do with shapeshifting and imitating people or animals you are familiar with to get close to you. In one case I also saw something while waking, going through the wall above my bed after laughing at me. When these dreams happen now I pray to God for protection and it seems to work. I don't get the shit scared out of me and I wake up calmer. I've only had maybe 4 or 5 in my life of those malicious-feeling nightmares, hopefully never again. I've only had a spooky sleep paralysis experience once or twice, but it didn't feel the same way, so I assume those were all in my head getting psyched out. I've also had a couple uneventful sleep paralysis. I don't think I want to invite whatever into my dreams for fear of what could happen, so I'm not interested in more than lucid dreaming for playful reasons like having more dreams where I can fly or do o
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Merry Christmas, /x/! From /co/.
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>>450 (OP) 
Thank you, lads.
And a Merry Christmas back at you!
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>>450 (OP) 
Thanks, and merry /x/-mass

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