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Hello and welcome to zzzchan! I will be using this thread to explain how this site is set up and answer the initial wave of questions. Thread creation on /meta/ will be locked initially, I will explain how this will be handled going forward below.

Now, to answer some initial questions:

>Who the fuck are you? Who are the other mods?
I am sturgeon, I was a mod back on fat/v/ and later z/v/. fat/v/ was my first role as a moderator in any capacity. I'm happy to say that Pasta and seagull have also stuck around and will be managing /v/. r9k's BO will also be back.

>Nice namefagging
I intend to only use my name & role tag when posting something relevant to my role or the site. 

>Why have you set this up?
Because zchan was doing fairly well before the admin pulled the plug without warning. I'd been considering making my own IB since fat died but once zchan went down I decided I had to make the effort. 

>Will you abandon this after x amount of time?
I've gone through the effort of setting all this up after losing 2 previous boards. I'm doing this because I want it to, and I plan to keep this place running as long as I can. 

>why zzzchan?
It's new, but familiar. Also Pasta worked very hard on the new logo, be sure to say nice things about it to him directly.

>How is this any more secure than the last jschan iterations?
This site is being run on 2 dedicated servers, one running the application and the other functioning as a proxy. All traffic to and from the app server is being routed through the proxy server. The app server is also set to drop any connection that is not from said proxy, so even if you knew the app server's ip you'd have no way of proving that it's running this site. the app server is also forcing ipv6, which should keep it safe from crawlers like Shodan and the like while also making it harder to ddos. This is a much simpler setup than what I initially outlined on /geimu/ but it covers all of the important functionality. I can also still decouple the db into it's own server if I want to, and I can add extra proxy/app servers if needed (though spare proxies will go farther).

  tl;dr : the only real attack surface is the proxy server, the app server simply goes invisible if there is no proxy,  and I can spool up more proxies/have a hot spare if anything happens to the current one. 

>Is all of this working perfectly?
Not quite, there are 2 bugs right now:

1. Real-time post updates are not working. I still need to work out how to get websockets to go through the proxy properly. you will see the error switch back to timed refresh after a few seconds, so auto update is still semi-working.
2. Geoip flags are all inheriting the proxy server's location. I've already solved this issue with post IDs so I have a rough idea of what I need to do to fix this, but it is not high priority.
I also fully expect shenanigans immediately after launch, so if anything happens I will be working to fix it as fast as I can.

>Are you going to add new boards? How are you going to handle adding boards?
I do not plan on adding new boards for at least a couple weeks, until things stabilize. I plan on having an application process for prospective BOs. I have not fully written this process out but here's a rough outline:
1. I will announce that I am accepting applications for new boards. All applicants will be directed to a specific email address where they will submit their answers to a few questions, such as:
  A. What would the focus of your board be?
  B. What would the rules be?
  C. How would you handle xyz hypothetical scenario? 
  D. There may be more questions, I still need to decide.
2. I would review and pick a handful (likely 3) of the best applications and talk a bit with the applicants directly to get them ready to launch their boards. Launches would likely be staggered by a day or two.
3. I would announce the new board prior to launch and give the new BO a dedicated thread on /meta/ to talk to you all directly. This is so the BO can answer questions/recruit vols.
4. The new board goes live and I will help the new BO manage it for x amount of time. Boards that get over a certain amount of activity will be encouraged to have at least 1 vol.

I reserve the right to deny any board for any reason, but I do not plan on turning boards away simply due lack of interest on my part. I think variety is important. The real purpose of this entire process is to prevent first come/first served situations like back on 8chan and to not have a list full of dead boards. It's experimental, so if something about this process isn't working I'm open to discussing it. If you would like to apply for the first batch of new boards then I encourage you to make a quick draft but hold on to it until I make an announcement. 

>How are you going to handle updating/fixing the site and downtime?
If the issue is not critical I will wait until slow hours to work on fixing anything. For anything that might cause noticeable downtime I will make an announcement at least a few hours ahead. Keep an eye on the news and /meta/. If it's urgent, I will make an announcement but it will be very short notice. I should look into making some kind of external display for them.

Feel free to ask any other questions/make suggestions in this thread, I will create another thread for identifying any bugs that may not have been caught in the testing period. This is my first time as an admin and I'd like to not fuck this up, so I'm counting on all of you to point out when something isn't working be it software or policy.
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also adding todo: figure out why node wont update my icons. the favicon is still fat despite that file no longer existing.
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Hello I would like to own a hentai board with a focus on wholesome content. My nickname is cal.
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>>6
Make a draft of what your rules would be. When I finish the application form you can add your answers to the rest of the questions and apply. Like I said I'm not going to add any boards until things stabilize.
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>>7
as i said, a focus on wholesome hentai content, that's all there is to it. Anything that is not wholesome/neutral is not allowed.
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>>1 (OP) 
Dead on arrival 2 months topu
Congratulations.  I hope you don't have a cuck host.
>>1 (OP) 
>Pasta worked very hard on the new logo
>logo isn't displayed on the front page
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>>11
I'm still wrestling with node.js as I go. the favicon hasn't switched over despite having replaced every instance of that file. gulp isn't helping either.
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Let's hope this time the site lasts more than a few months.
>>12
Can you post the logo? I want to make a banner out of it.
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>>8
You're probably going to come up with exactly what you consider wholesome or neutral first. I mean, I know a rather nice doujin featuring lite-BDSM and petplay that I'd call wholesome because the girl is consenting to it if it can personally better her (she has a habit of masturbating at school). Would something like that be allowed or be banned?
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>>11
Yeah I can't believe this, I'm fuming in anger!
>>14
Here lad.
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Any chances of a /b/ board?
Are you going to stay in webring?
How will you take care of dolphin spam, CP spam and DDoS attacks?
.onion when?

>>6
This guy shilled his main board at 8chan.moe everywhere and got a bad rep. Best not to encourage if you want to maintain low profile.
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do you guys support cunny posting? I'd really like to get a /libre/ board
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>>1 (OP) 
>>18
>.onion when?
When Tom adds .onion support I presume.
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Is this cloudjew shit temporary? It's really fucking with my browser setup and I'm getting infinite captcha looped.
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https://prolikewoah.com/geimu/res/14643.html#14730
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>>1 (OP) 
Please never ever enable captcha, we all know how obnoxious it is. Some sites like julay and 8chan even force fail you 2 times, so you basically have to do 3 fucking captchas just to make a post. The user base will flood in like flies to shit if you continue to disable captcha.
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This is mostly a request to Tom, I don't know if the feature exists already and you can enable it on your end, but is it possible to have an option the user can enable to auto play gifs? I don't know how bad it would be on the server load but I've missed that feature since it got cut in 8chan way back when and I don't have a custom js for jschan to auto play gifs.
Here's hoping this lasts 2 years.
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I admit, I was hesitant about this website existing, but it seems like you've done your homework and are making a good effort to have everything be stable and resolute.  I hope this marks a strong step forward for image boards - in fact, it's auspicious for it to happen almost a year to the day after 8chan's first death throes, isn't it?

I look forward to posting with you, gentlemen.  I can't believe how much I missed JSChan's QoL features and BOs/admins who weren't constantly sticking their heads up their asses.

I do have some questions:
- Are there any boards you plan to ban outright?  When/if board creation is opened, I think there would be little benefit to having something like /pol/ or /b/ or /r9k/.
- Are your servers hosted in an area where people could scare your host into deplatforming you due to hosting degenerate hardcore CP such as pic 2?
- Most importantly, do you have a backup plan or a way for people to regroup if the board is destroyed?  Even something like a Twitter account or a text document with instructions at the top of each page would be helpful.
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>>27
God, I would love if zyclon chan got a /pol/. I would finally have a place to talk about stuff that's gong on, and then we could just ship everyone who brings up off topic political stuff there.
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>>28
A /pol/ would be nice but it might draw kikes to the board to shut it down. Then again, boards have gotten shut down without even having /pol/s, so who knows. I'll leave it to the owner's discretion to decide whether it's worth the trouble.
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>>27
Welcome home, anon!
>>28
>zyklonchan
You know, we truly considered to use that name, but we came to the conclusion that it was too long, so we stuck with zzzchan.
>>24
>having a maid like that and still needing to jack off
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>>19
loli is allowed even if i'm not into it. Just remember to spoil it here and on /v/. I will let new boards decide if they want to allow it or not.

>>22
>>24
I set the pph trigger for captcha really low for /meta/, I'll try raising it. Cuckflare stays for now but I am looking at other solutions. if you still have issues post them in the bug thread.


>>27
>Are there any boards you plan to ban outright?  When/if board creation is opened, I think there would be little benefit to having something like /pol/ or /b/ or /r9k/.

I'm not planning on allowing public board creation, see the outline for the application process. This lets me pick how much heat new boards are going to bring but mostly it filters out prospective BO's who wouldn't put in even that much effort. I need BOs to give at least half a shit. /r9k/ BO from zchan is here and setting up though, I see no issue with that board. I might make a special slot for /b/ in the first round as well.

> Are your servers hosted in an area where people could scare your host into deplatforming you due to hosting degenerate hardcore CP such as pic 2?
Any reasonable host is not going to drop you if actual cp spam is gone in short order. It's a known problem especially for smaller sites. As for the hosts themselves, while I wont name them they have refused to do jack shit until ordered by a court for much higher profile clients in the past. They also have no policy written on loli itself, and in the event we got dropped for it it would actually be pretty damning for them. I think it'll be fine but I am looking into being able to pivot if needed. Like I said before the only real target is the proxy server and that's much easier to replace/have a spare.

> Most importantly, do you have a backup plan or a way for people to regroup if the board is destroyed?  Even something like a Twitter account or a text document with instructions at the top of each page would be helpful.
Backups are on the way, I have an older one but I want to get some things ironed out before claiming I've got an image I can deploy easily. A bunker wouldn't be a bad idea, though it'd be on a very cheap server. And more documentation is on the way, I got excited and wanted to launch without it.

>twitter 
I really don't want to use fucking twitter but if no better options exist I'll just fucking make one.
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>>27
>I think there would be little benefit to having something like /pol/ or /b/ or /r9k/.
/b/ was one of the more active boards on Zchan though, and the only active English /b/ on the webring.  An imageboard needs an everything goes general shitposting zone.
>>32
You could just direct people to /shelter/ in case of emergencies.  That's what it's for.
>>1 (OP) 
Are you going to enable board creation?
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>>35
I have an entire section in the op outlining how this is going to be handled.
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>>16
The animated versions are really cool. I'm surprised you didn't turn them into banners since yhe beginning.
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>>36
Give me the TLDR.
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>>38
There will be an application process and I haven't worked out all the details yet.
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>>38
You are one of the dumbest, blackest obongo niggers I've ever seen.

>>28
> I would finally have a place to talk about stuff that's gong on
Literally go to mlpol.
And I swear to God, if this software still expects me to use discuck spoilers, I'm gonna be mad.

>>32
>I'm not planning on allowing public board creation, see the outline for the application process.
Yes, I read all that.  What I asked was not "will you prevent people from making low-effort board?"  I asked if you would be prohibiting any boards regardless of how much potential effort the BO would make.
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>>40
>asterisks become markup italics
Please tell me there's some way to fix this so I don't need to use retarded pipes.
>>40
I'm willing to give almost any board with a good application a shot, even if it doesn't interest me. My goal is to encourage variety. As far as what I'll turn down, I don't have a set list but I can tell you boards dedicated to more extreme fetishes/furshit are not getting approved.
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>>42
I should add that we already have /r9k/ despite me having zero interest in /r9k/ personally. I'm not sure what robot is doing but his board is currently unlisted.
>>18
>Are you going to stay in webring? How will you take care of dolphin spam, CP spam and DDoS attacks?
Yeah that's a legitimate concern. Maybe it would be better to stay away from the webring.
>Any chances of a /b/ board?
Some kind of offtopic board would be great yeah
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>>32
>loli is allowed even if i'm not into it
He wasn't asking about loli, he was asking about the 3D /hebe/ shit. Presumably that won't be allowed.

>>44
I doubt staying off the webring would hide us from such attacks, if zzzch is known around the webring boards then it will be known to dolphinfag and his kind.
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>>46
>He wasn't asking about loli, he was asking about the 3D /hebe/ shit.
I'd say he was talking about either/or, discussion of pedophilia in general, or possibly just the term "cunny" since it's known to upset certain indivduals.
>>46
True. I just shake off the feeling Julay only encouraged the webring a year ago so they could entertain themselves spreading dramashit.
>>19
Read the global rules and return to 8chnl.

>>46
>I doubt staying off the webring would hide us from such attacks, if zzzch is known around the webring boards then it will be known to dolphinfag and his kind.
He's already spamming /v/ with gibberish text.
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>>46
Cartoons are fine, but no /hebe/ shit.  The second it crosses into 3dpd it's not allowed that doesnt mean 3dcg is banned just no actual kids
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Anons at cakechan are skeptic about ".xyz" domain because of spacechan trannies associating it with honeypots. Also, muh cuckflare.

>>49
Jesus, already? 
Things were calm at webring since PLW doxxing episode. Funny how Mark's website never gets spammed.
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>>51
>Calm since PLW doxxing episode
So they were calm for like a week?
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>>50
Does that mean this image is verboten?
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>>53
That image is at the line, no more than that please.
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>>54
Okay, all's good.  Fuck SuperiorDragon, the faggot cunt.
>>51
>Anons at cakechan are skeptic about ".xyz" domain because of spacechan trannies associating it with honeypots. 
That's the dumb I've ever heard.
>Also, muh cuckflare.
Doesn't really matter as long as the site doesn't get deplatformed. I'm glad he uses it from the start. Better than what the zchan admin did who didn't use any protection, realized he needed some after a month when the site got ddos'd to death, even was ashamed he used cf and then finally sperged out completely.
You just need that shit nowadays, there's no way around it. All idealism will do no good when the site can't stay online.
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>>16
Here's the banner I promised, at two different speeds.
Good job at dealing with the spammer, by the way.
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>>57
I like these a lot, gonna add them to here and /v/
benis :-D
Do try to ditch Cuckflare as soon as possible, it's bad for user trust.
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>>62
I know they're liable to cuck out but they have cut out ~90% of the spam today. I am looking into alternatives.
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>>62
>it's bad for user trust.
That's a weird and oddly arrogant way to phrase it.  The problem with Cloudflare is that they have stated they will deplatform anyone the leftist mob targets - it's a general problem with the service, not a problem with your users not trusting you.
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>>64
They mostly deplatform sites that gain massive amounts of media attention, like 8chan and I think anglin. It's fairly unlikely they'll make a move on a small site,
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>>62
This. If you get rid of cockflare I'll offer my services here.
>>63
Is Vanwa not viable? All the wannabe 8chans seem to use it.
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>>37
>I'm surprised you didn't turn them into banners since yhe beginning.
They're not really meant to be, if you shrink them the pixels look like ass since at their current res they are at 1:1 pixel size ratio so you either double them or keep em like that, The full version is supposed to be on the home page.
>>31
It's not nice to fuck your maid every time you want to jack off.
>>63
Better cuckflare than nothing, but I hope you can find an alternative eventually or relax the settings on cuckflare.
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Any word on the progression of hidden service support in JSchan? The sooner that's completed, the sooner Cuckflare becomes a non-issue.
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>>72
Apparently Tom is posting in the bug thread, could try asking him there.
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>>75
Just threw him the question. Thanks for telling me!
>>18
I'm forced to use blacked.moe, otherwise I'd bounce in no time nigger.
This place should strive to be self sufficient, as in having boards covering all basic topics.
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>>80
>centralization
Nah.  Spreading one site too far is asking for trouble in the long run, since people tend to congregate in large places where there are already other people posting.
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>>80
That goes against the spirit of the webring. The site should cover things that aren't covered elsewhere and that the Admin of the site is personally invested or interested it. Webring sites need to be selective about the boards they accept, that's something we all learned a good while ago.
>>80
>>81
I am planning on adding more staple boards. /b/ specifically is getting a special slot in the first application round. I'm not looking to poach certain boards however. For example, I'd love to have /k/ but I do not want to compete with anon.cafe/k/ since it's already a slow board. BOs on other sites who contact me wanting to migrate their board here will also be considered outside of the application cycle. I will also never solicit them to migrate here, they will have to contact me if that's what they want.
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>>84
I think there isn't a proper tech board on the webring, so that should probably be another consideration.
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>>84
>>85
/b/ and /tech/ seem like a good idea. It's what old zchan had too after all. And it had /r9k/ but I think they are already somewhere else, so who cares.
>>80
Kind of agree. But with something like /b/ it doesn't need many boards to do that, at least not in the beginning when there are not many users.
>>85
There all kinds of webring members, some have many boards, some don't.
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Spam in progress. What the fuck is his problem?
Did spamming end because you guys deployed countermeasures or is it because he decided to stop spamming? If the latter then what will you guys do to prevent this from happening in the future?
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>>88
Probably cloudflare's mitigation + PPH/TPH triggers at work, then jannies were deployed and the shit was cleaned.
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>>86
/r9k/ is already here, robot is just treating this site as a bunker until we've survived for x amount of time and has it unlisted. Cant say I blame him. I'll add a special slot for /tech/ too.

>>88
>>89
That is exactly what happened, cloudflare eats ~90% of the spam and we clean the rest.
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So glad to see this place get back online, /geimu/ was getting unbearable in the last couple of weeks.
Reminder that my bunker cytube still exists and I welcome everyone to use it in case shit hits the fan (until it gets spammed too, then you'll have to wait it out as well)

https://cytu.be/r/vbunker
https://zzzchan.xyz/v/thread/552.html
Add these pedophiles to the autoban list like how RIP zchan admin did. They were the ones that were responsible for the spam that landed the final blow on his mental health and kill the site.
If you open up /b/ they'll come here so you'll need to come up with a plan to take care of their feces.
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>>93
Reference - https://archive.vn/DoPoa
>>93
>muh pedo
>>93
>his mental health 
AAAAAAAHAGAHAGAGAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Ids fucked yo
>>93
As if not having a /b/ would keep them away. Chantopia fags seem to be on a advertising spree the last few days, seen them on a few sites.
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>>99
Mostly this, though certain boards do attract certain types - one must be keen to hold them at bay.

With that said, can you make a /pol/ here and put me as the BO of it? /dup/ is a lost cause and 8chan.moe's sad /pol/ is pathetic, not to mention anchored to the shitsite that is Acidchan.
Is server space a concern? Should we be cautious about file dumps and sizes? On other sites I know it's mostly porn boards that fill up threads with a lot of big files but /r9k/ does have the occasional gondola/music/wallpaper threads.
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>>106
I'm... not an admin here, but I am in a unique position to be able to confidently say "lol no" to that question.

There are terabytes of space available. More can be made available at little-to-no cost.
Since I have no idea what the board staff would have to say about this, being an irl friend and not much else, I'll allow them to confirm, deny, or ignore this statement as they see fit.
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>>107
You write like you have a fucking vagina but thanks for the tip.
>>107
can we fuck?
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>>109
You got money?
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>>106
The app server has Multiple TB in Raid0. We will be fine forever.
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Here's an idea to not make this place dogshit like zchan was: don't randomly delete posts without explanation.
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>>67
Unironically worse than crimeflare. The only people using a WAF service funded by fed collaborators and owned by a professional botnet spammer is a fucking fed collaborator. Just get rid of cloudflare so we don't have to worry about getting MITM'd by the FBI and it's all good.
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>>118
Bad idea. You saw what happened last time, at some point zchan was ddos'ed and had to use cf to stay online. There's already someone running a spambot on the site, basically since the day it went online. Someone seems to severely dislike the idea of fat/zchan. And even more people dislike the remnants of 8chan. And then even more people dislike 8/v/ in particular.
I'm actually glad the admin doesn't fall prey to misinterpreted idealism and script kiddie romanticism and instead does the only sensible thing nowadays and uses ddos protection. It's a necessary evil, not using it would be suicide. That has been proven again and again. And Vanwa is just the same thing made by someone else but surely much more expensive because they are smaller.
The MITM principle is a problem, I agree, but it's probably less of a problem on an imageboard where you are making public posts to begin with. In the end it's this or no board at all. Sometimes I start to wonder whether the people who are so vocal against ddos protection, not you in particular but in general, are agents of Chantopia or something like that who are pissed they cannot simply use a booter on the site.
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Also the Crimeflare guy seems like a total SJW. All he does is complain about muh cybercrime. It's nice to use anything he possibly finds against the cucked cf ceo but other than that I cannot really take it seriously. It seems mostly like being butthurt about not being able to take down muh evil sites.
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>>114
>delete posts without explanation.
Anon I think you are confused. What you just described tends to happen in markchan, not zchan
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>>114
Jschan has very easy to use moderation tools that make commenting on every single moderation action very simple. I can't speak for everyone but whenever I think a moderation action need explanation I make a comment about it for the logs. You can always go through the logs for each of the boards to get a better understanding of moderator decisions. I think you might be conflating the actions of the previous zchan admin with this new site though. The old zchan admin was a bit of a nutter deleting entire boards for no real reason.
https://zzzchan.xyz/meta/logs.html
https://zzzchan.xyz/v/logs.html
https://zzzchan.xyz/r9k/logs.html
>>93
>They were the ones that were responsible for the spam that landed the final blow on his mental health and kill the site.
>SPAM was responsible for site's destruction instead of POOR MENTAL HEALTH
How the fuck do you breathe?
>>122
It happened to me more than once on zchan. Posts got deleted. No explanation, no idea why. The only thing different about Mark is that he would have also banned me with some schizo explanation.
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>>120
>>121
Using cuckflare means they can collect info on exactly who posted what whenever they feel like. They can also start injecting shit whenever. I would rather see it gone and only used in case of attacks.
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>>132
I think sturg would rather trade liberty for security, unfortunately.
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>>132
Well I guess there are 3 goals to be found here: Privacy, anonymity and availability. Choose two.
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Put proper lynxchan formatting already. Even fucking BB code tags are better than this discord trash. There will not be a "BUT OLDER POST FORMATTING WILL GET FUCKED UP" justification for NOT doing it if you do it early enough, so don't delay it.

DO NOT TOLERATE CUCKORD SYMPATHIZERS
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>>131
Perhaps you were replying to thread derailment and your post was deleted during the cleanup
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>>133
>>134
>>135
>>136
please read the news:
 https://zzzchan.xyz/news.html
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>>139
Don't be surprised when people start to get on your case for using Vanwatech now.
Not all critics are constructive critics.
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>>140
I'm sure I'll get complaints either way but it is just a trial run.
>>139
>Vanwatech
Better than cuckflare for sure, but don't they cost money? Will donations be necessary to sustain the site?
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>>142
The current setup costs ~$500/year but this is partly due to the proxy server being enormous overkill. I will likely be moving it to a cheaper server once I have a better idea of what I'll need. The only form of donation I'd ever accept would be a tip jar for monero.
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>>143
>~$500/year
Jesus fucking christ bro
>>143
I'd donate. Also the link to the rules on the news page is broken.
Why do you use this shitty layout? What sort of person thinks being an imageboard hipster is a good idea?
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>>189
What are you talking about, nig?
Replies: >>207
Found a dead board based on jschan.
https://www.nekochan.cafe/index.html
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>>201
dead indeed
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>>189
>shitty layout
> imageboard hipster
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>>202
well if anything I got two new pics for my cats folder out of it
>>191
Replies at the bottom of the posts.
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>>207
You haven't been to Fatchan or Zchan then, it's how JSchan handles it and I'm fairly sure this format has been around for longer than that.
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>>208
Yeah, the meguca software and the 4chanx addon do it as well.
If you think about it, it's more logical as the replies are below the post, not above.
Jschan doesn't have the function to inline replies and quotes but if it did that'd make it a lot less confusing too.
>>110
I didn't hear a yes.

>>111
until the mongols attack

>>120
It's pretty obvious that the cuckflare whiners have never had to run a website before.  They may cuck out but they're a lot better than [nothing].

>>140
"how dare you be [not vulnerable]" *waves stick*

>>142
lol no
but also LOL NO
>>207
Replies at the bottom are superior for vertical monitor configurations and 4:3 monitors. When they're pushed to the right of the post number on limited horizontal screen real estate they can glitch out in lynxchan. There's no reason not to push them to the left of the screen with the free space at the bottom of a post. It's not "hipster" layout, it's just a different and objectively better layout.
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>>213
Good point. I guess some anons just see something they aren't used to and automatically put it into the hipster category rather than thinking about whether it's useful or not.
Changing the spoilers to what people are used to is a reasonable measure but I really hope no one will think it's a good idea to move the reply links.
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>>214
>Changing the spoilers to what people are used to 
Speaking of which, has he gotten around to doing that?
test
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>>216
STUUUUUUUUURGEOOOOOOOONNNNN
>>214
>Changing the spoilers to what people are used to is a reasonable measure
not really. people unable to adapt should not be pandered to, they are the lowest common denominator ie niggers. instead they should be bullied for their incompetence until they learn. individuals that are ultimately incapable of adapting are stupid people and having a way to identify them through their failure to adapt is useful to those who are not as stupid.
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>>219
this pretty much
>>219
This. All change is good change. Discord is the future, guys, so I say its a good thing we force people to get used to discord text formatting. I think we should also implement an upvoting system - anyone who isn’t able to fit in after thats implemented shouldn’t be pandered to since, as we all know, all change is good change.
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>>219
Adapt to a three-foot long dragon dildo in your throat.
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>>221
How about Telegram?
>>221
>discord started this
lol stop using discord
>>222
no
Replies: >>225
>>224
He mad lol
>nigger spam
>enable javashit to continue
>retry craptcha again
Deja vu I've just been in this place before.
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>>346
It completely stopped the spam so I say it's worth it
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>>347
I just hope it's temporary...
>Please reload the page with Javascript on
>Just checking for 5 (15) seconds :)
>Twenty captchas
Yeah I'm not using the site if this shit keeps up.
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>type url
>hello please wait 5 seconds
>oops look like it's broken, reload 
>hello please wait 5 seconds again
>now do this captcha as well
>oops fail to load again, reload site
>try to make a post
>please do a captcha please
>send you indecipherable mess
>nigger dick spamming
>do nothing for an hour
Genius at work. Site will be dead in 2 weeks.
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>>1 (OP) 
Why is it that I have to do a captcha to delete my own post? Isn't that a bit retarded?
>>350
Have you really been getting reconnecting errors just from the usual Cloudflare browser checks?  I've never had that happen.

And the per-post captchas seem to be readable again, which is nice.  I haven't followed exactly how they fluctuate between being readable and illegible, but hopefully they can stay like this once a solution to the spam is found.
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>>350
Wasn't the site supposed to have switched to vanwatech today? What happened to that?
>>352
I got an epic idea, dynamic captcha difficulty that scales with the PPH of a board.
>>1 (OP) 
Rename /v/ to /nigger/ because you are the blackest gorilla niggers there were, are and ever will be. 
>>21
>no tor
What a fucking cunt.
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>>368
>nooo my spam attempts have failed catastrophically! You... you niggers!
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>>371
Nice straw man retard. In case you dont know, cloutflare despites tor so you're harming the userbase that uses it. I'm using my bare ip and got in pretty quick, but unable to do so through tor without cuckflare constantly failing and making me do retarded captcha and failing anyway. It was stupid of you to rely on cloutflare. You repeat the exact same mistakes as the other two previous board. Make me wonder who is really behind it?
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>>372
which two previous boards used cloudflare?
get rid of this faggoty ddos protection shit for the love of god
>>372
The problem might be Javascript again. I am trying just now to post via tor with javascript to test it and the cf captcha worked exactly like on the clearnet, it was loading the pictures slower but other than that everything was normal, no extra rounds of solving captchas, no increased difficulty or any bullshit like that. Those ecchi captchas seem to work a lot better than the google captcha cf used to use.
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>"cuckflare is checking your browser"
>solve a captcha
>"cuckflare is checking your browser"
>solve a captcha
>"cuckflare is checking your browser"
>solve a captcha
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>>372
>you're harming the userbase that uses it
So like two people and 100 spam bots.
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>>379
So you want me to either bareback or pay for a vpn for le security? Nice brain you got there retard.
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>>380
No one wants tor to not work well. I almost strictly browse imageboards through tor and this is shit for me as well, but I'd much rather not use or minimally use zchan temporarily if it means it the site can exist. Eventually tom will come out with hidden service support for jschan and it will be a non-issue. And before that this site is allegedly going to attempt a switch to vanwa soon(?). I'm not sure what else you want to hear anon. Everyone is doing their best with the tools they have at their disposal.

These are growing pains that will be solved in time, take it easy.
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>>381
there is already a version with it, but its called "testing" so musnt be 100% ready
>>381
>telling a TORpedo to exercise common sense
I commend your optimism.
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if i have to click on one more autobus i'm gonna lose it
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Why is porn spoilered?
>>385
vpnigger shouldn't be allowed to bark.
>we're going to use google recaptcha
You are beyond retarded. Do not sabotage zchan like the last nigger.
>>389
this, fucking stop it, people will really leave over this
>>389
What are you quoting?
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>>392
https://zzzchan.xyz/news.html
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>>393
Thanks
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>>389
This is correct. as far as my understanding of their botnet goes, the moment you add any of their "services", you add the website to their list, along with all their trackers and worms. Google will automatically, even without your input, turn your site into a datamining operation.
Do not use this, I know you wanna get off cuckflare and stop spam, but Google is the devil's deal, do not sell your soul.
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>>389
What the fuck, that's even worse than Cuckflare! Sturgeon, if you're reading this please cancel any plans to implement it.

>>395
Does this last even once reCaptcha's removed?
>>395
dedicated thread for recaptcha
https://zzzchan.xyz/meta/thread/397.html
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>>405
>login
OH WOW SO NOW WE HAVE ZCHAN PREMIUM
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>>411
Wait, I been gone these past few days, what did I miss?
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>>443
You missed
>niggers
>gay niggers
>more gay niggers
>lots of gay niggers
>about 1k posts of gay niggers
>then came the motorbuses
>then came the trucks
>then came the planes
>suddenly no more gay niggers
>"oh here's >>>/b/ btw"
If you're referring to that specific post, the retard posted a link while logged into his mod account so it was prompting anyone clicking on it to log in to see the page. Now please, take a moment to check these numbers.
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>>444
checked
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Just wanted to let you know https://zchan.pro/ redirects to this site. Good luck with the board, it looks good.
-Zchan admin
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>>452
You betrayed us Mr. Bennetts, how could you do this to us?
>https://zchan.pro/ redirects to this site
Too little, too late.
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>>452
Now upload the database for r9k
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>>203 I didn't stutter, dipshit.
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>the starry Z has been replaced by fat-kun
Boo.  I liked the night/nap aesthetic better than some doodle.
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>>467
yeah i did a git pull/checkout without setting that to be ignored, I will fix it. Markdown works now thoughI broke origin ip passthrough.
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>>468
test
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>>469
test 2
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>>470
another test
aaaaaa
>>454
Didn't know how to handle things at the time. I know better now but too late indeed. Be grateful for the months you enjoyed Zchan though.
>>455
I could do this but it wouldn't be of much use since you would have to import the whole jschan database and it would destroy all the other boards already here on the site.
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>>476
>Be grateful for the months you enjoyed Zchan though.
Go fuck yourself retard.
>I could do this but it wouldn't be of much use since you would have to import the whole jschan database and it would destroy all the other boards already here on the site.
Do it anyways. Codexx is working on a scraping tool that will eventually work on jschan.
>>476
>you would have to import the whole jschan database
I can't imagine that this is the case. I don't know the exact structure of the database but it's mongodb so I guess every board is just a collection or something like that. Ultimately, a JSON/BSON node. Someone can write a script to copy just that, or use a DB client to manually copy it. At most, the board that is to be restored has to be wiped, but with a script that checks for conflicting post IDs it should even be possible to merge the old board with the new one.
>>>/v/2769
Ban this tranny normal nigger, do your job tard.
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>>494
Porn is supposed to be spoilered on /v/, if that's what you mean.
>>497
>Why should porn be censored?
>censored
You're not very smart.
>You have porn thread on /v/ right now 
The "hot vidya girls" thread, though very shallow, features predominantly non-porn images and spoilered porn images.
Replies: >>503
>>493
What rules did he break?
>>499
You can mark your board as sfw
>>1 (OP) 
When will the site allow mkv file?
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>>504
I can look into adding more filetypes. If support has to be added by tom I'll submit a request. There will be a large newspost later today with plans going forward.
Replies: >>510
How do we fight and drive away normalfag? Let's imagine that this site stays up for at least 5 years, what the fuck are we going to do in the meantime to hide and piss normalshit off of our site? Personally I think you should drop that censorship shit on porn and encourage people to post erotic lolis.
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>>506
>How do we fight and drive away normalfag? 
Just don't change.
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>>507
Like how the admins don't care about obvious normalshit shit stirring? You need to learn something from smug.
>>>/v/4633
>>505
if your version of ffprobe can idenfity it, and ffmpeg can thumbnail it, add the mime type to helpers/files/mimetypes.js and it will work. whether it will play in browsers i cant say, but the server would handle it at least.
>>506
>drop that censorship shit on porn 
You're really bad at this. Stick to posting "he mad."
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>>513
Did I poke you the wrong hole rulecuck?
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>>514
Bitch all you want, anything NSFW will remain spoilered
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>>516
Why?
>>516
>hurr durr no porn its bad for your mentality 
<proceed to allow normalnigger to bark and do nothing
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>>520
The derailment in that thread has been taken care of. It would've been taken care of sooner if you reported it instead of bitching about porn.
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>>476
>be grateful
Fuck off. All you did was fuck everyone over with that bullshit you pulled. If you had never made zchan at all everyone would be in a much better place right now. /r9k/ would've built up a better catalog on lynxchan and sturgeon would have made his imageboard sooner and the people that are lost during board nukings would have still been here. Don't act like any of what you did was a good thing for anyone.
Shouldn't the animated logo gif be in the front page?
Also the favicon is still fatchan.
>>521
>hurr durr you must report tards or else we won't do our job.
Absolutely incompetent, this retard had been going for weeks and you did fucking nothing liars.
Replies: >>537
Please fill me in on what happened with the zchan admin.
Replies: >>536
Update the FAQ with the correct markup, for god's sake. It's completely wrong right now and people constantly fuck it up because of the recent changes.
>>533
I would ask why you don't know about such recent news, but oh well. Basically the same thing as fatchan only more sudden and after much less pressure. A little spam and downtime from attacks and after 2 months or less of the site being up, the admin, with little to no warning, pulled the plug on zchan. This left it's users once again stranded, bleeding posters, and having wasted a shit-ton of time that could have been spent rebuilding on a place like this.

Why the nigger thinks anybody should be grateful for that bullshit is beyond me. I'll say it again, everyone would've been better off without zchan having ever existed. 
The only good thing to come out of zchan is that we now know what not to do when we get our boards nuked. That being; don't rapidly place trust in IB creators and always have a plan B/bunker ready. Should have been common sense but at least now it's been hammered in well enough.
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>>531
>hurr durr you must report tards or else we won't do our job.
Yes. If you want effective moderation it's going to depend on effective and thorough reports. If you have the time to complain about something in the meta thread you had the time to make a report, and reports are going to be noticed much faster.
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>>536
Okay. I was expecting something bigger that I wasn't paying attention to, but I guess that makes sense.
>>537
How about you do your job? You have at least 2 mods on /v/ yet somehow the retard was able to bark for days. Does any of you browse /v/ at all?
Why did you delete the porn thread on /b/? Its /b/ my man, what are you doing?
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>>548
>Why did you delete the porn thread on /b/?
>/b/
I am retarded. I had both /v/ and /b/ open and in that moment thought I was moderating /v/. Sorry fam, ban removed.
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>>549
You banned me?
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>>551
Clearly not
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This is a pretty retarded question, but how does global reporting work? I made a post in a different thread with the intent that its images would be spoilered, but they were posted unspoilered, regardless. Another anon suggested I global report the post and ask that the images be spoilered, but in all my years of using imageboards, I admit I've never actually had to report anything before lol.
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>>558
If you set a post password (one is set automatically with javascript enabled) and the board allows it, you can spoiler the post at any time after posting.
Otherwise, refer to the "Local vs. Global reports" section of https://zzzchan.xyz/faq.html#moderation
What was with the downtime?
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>>562
Apparently the proxy sever zzchan used couldn't into ipv6 or something to that effect.
test
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>>574
testing test
>>574
one more
Any ETA on vanwatech?
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>>606
any ETA on webring?
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>>606
hard to say, I need to figure out how to get nginx on the appserver to whitelist traffic from multiple ip ranges. The proxy is configured and ready to go once I figure that out, so hopefully soon.
>>607
I should be able to add the proxies to the webring settings, I'm going to ask tom exactly how that's supposed to work.
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>>608
I dont remember exacltly how I had it for fatchan, but it would be something like this:
allow   proxy.1.ip.address;
allow   proxy.2.ip.address;
deny    all; #dont allow other ips to access the backend, but I recommend you do this earlier, in the server firewall.
set_real_ip_from proxy.2.ip.address;
set_real_ip_from proxy.2.ip.address;
real_ip_header X-Forwarded-For; #the header the proxies send the real IPs of end usersFor the webring, I used torproxy (tor+privoxy in a local docker container), or you can use any socks proxy if you set one up.
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WEBRING WHEN
IMPLEMENTING THIS >>609 WHEN
COOL CUSTOM CSS WHEN
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>With the new captcha I can get back to setting up the vanwa proxy. It's mostly configured I just need to test it, hoping to launch it by monday.
>2 weeks ago
Do your fucking job.
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>>609
Is this for the proxy setting of webring.json? As far as the proxies themselves I'm planning to have the existing ones pull double duty.

>>618
I have the server set up and ready, what I'm stuck on is getting the appserver to whitelist it alongside the other proxies. once that's working we're good to go.

 I am planning to do all this tuesday morning. There should be very little risk of anything breaking this time around.
Webring is up and I've emailed other admins to add zzzchan. now for the nginx fuckery.
""test""
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>>631
quots aren't working for some reason, use triple apostrophes like this
double should still be italic
I'll update the faq now
test
>>1 (OP) 
A FISH! He could've chosen anything and he chose a fish! A fucking FISH.
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>>639
Actually it was pasta who chose the usernames
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>>641
I kinda like being a fish
>>606
>>608
I don't really have a concise thread to link to since Acid's just been posting randomly in the ni/GG/er thread on blacked.moe, but apparently the russian government threatened to ban vanwatech from access to the country or some shit unless 8moe deleted their loli boards. Vanwa is based in america but didn't want their clients to lose the ability to serve Russian IP's their content so complied and made 8moe delete /delicious/ and other boards.

Just something to keep in mind and pay attention to. Cloudflare is obviously cucked in many ways as well, but it seems like a bad actor has found a chink in the CDN's armor through its need to serve the Russian audience and their autistic fixation on banning loli while the country itself is a bastion for literal CP.

Hey uh... Timothy, where's the onion brother? Save us.
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>>644
https://8chan.moe/site/res/27.html
Thread with discussions about it.
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>>644
>>645
So what? Isn't zzzchan going to have both cloudflare ANd vanwa? Why should we care?
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>>646
> Isn't zzzchan going to have both cloudflare ANd vanwa?
The whole point of the captcha trouble was that we moved fro Cloudflare to Vanwa.
>>646
I'm still working out how to add vanwa, but the real goal of of having both is to be able to rapidly switch in case either/both cuck out.  Cf and vanwa are also only one line of defense, and they only directly shield the proxy servers. I can spin up a cheap vps on any host that doesn't give a shit in minutes given a worst case scenario.
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>>648
Oh, I had misunderstood.  Thanks for clarifying.
8moe just got shoahed except for Tor.  Incoming exodus.
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>>651
I tried to tell Acid that he needed to ditch the "8chan" brand back when he started out, but fucker wouldn't listen to reason.
I'm getting extremely slow speed and connection errors on MoeTor.  Looks like for all Acid's shilling of redchannit and tor in emergencies, rechannit is down and the hidden service has never been tested under heavy load.  Tor worked fine on the site the other day.
>on the webring
nice
is prolikewoah down for anybody else?
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>>679
It's down for me as well, don't know what happened.
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>>679
>>680
nvm, seems to be back on
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great
new threads popping up left and right and anons bicker about nothing
awesome
comfy
fan fucking tastic
/a/
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>>685
/b/
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>>686
/c/
I just found that spaghetti nigger is back with a new board,how many anon's never found out like me that the board is back?
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>>688
You must have some very specific browsing habits to not have heard a single thing about this place by now.
>>688
It's sturgeon's board though, all hail the fish.
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>>691
hail him and his 7000 proxies.
What are all the filetypes that can be posted and why isn't there a list of them in the faq or when you try and make a thread or post? Asking because I was trying to post a webp in a thread and it wouldn't go through. Also let us post .torrent and .swf files please.
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there seems to be some cuckchan-tier posts over on /v/. at first it looked like just one underdone thread but now I count at least three of them. have they found their way here somehow?
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>>707
Got any examples?
>>707
I do my best to get rid of any blatantly cuckchan posts, but sometimes they're in a grey zone rules-wise and can't be deleted.
>>702
would have to check the gitgud page, or ask tom, I don't think that's listed anywhere else
>>702
You can definitely post .sid files (commodore c64 music files) but the idiot faggot retard site owner won't let me because he's a FAGGOT RETARD IDIOT
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What the fuck is happening in the fighting game general over at /v/?
I don't want to ask there lest I invoke the wrath of a thousand hurt butts. I check the logs every so often to see what you poor fucks have to deal with on a daily basis and constantly see dismissed reports from that thread. Is it just a couple of assholes arguing with each other over their musclebound waifus or something entirely different? 
I don't have the patience to read through all that autism.
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>>754
>What the fuck is happening in the fighting game general?
Well, fighting
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>>756
I really like the loading bars.  How come I never get that fancy new chess captcha?
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>>758
>How come I never get that fancy new chess captcha?
What do you mean? Are you seeing a different captcha or just not having to complete captcha at all?
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>>758
You only get captcha when
>the board has captcha enabled
>you try to report a post or delete a post of your own
It seems all boards have it disabled for the time being so if you want to try it you can report or try to delete your own posts.
FYI admin, for .onion, if you have jschan updated and it uses the proper separate server block in nginx with 'TOR' hardcoded in the country code header, BOs can choose "tor onion" as a blocked country in settings. No need to ban 127.0.0.1
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>>769
this assumes the onion is on the same machine as jschan. this is not the case for zzzchan. onion requests go through the same waf/cache setup as cloudflare does.
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>>756
walked right into that one
>>769
>>770 is correct, i'll post a chart today giving an outline
I don't think it's happened yet but I'd like to remind admin's/gvols not to accidentally wipe every tor posters entire post history.

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