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Putin's given us the boot! Read about it here: https://zzzchan.xyz/news.html#66208b6a8fca3aefee4bf211


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Meta-Thread: >>190
'Useful programs'
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications

'Wikis'
4/g/ Wiki
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/
8/tech/ Wiki
https://wiki.cloveros.ga/Main_Page (link dead)
Linux distro wikis (can apply to all distros)
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

'Tech article sites (need to add more)'
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://digdeep4orxw6psc33yxa2dgmuycj74zi6334xhxjlgppw6odvkzkiad.onion/ ]
https://spyware.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://spywaredrcdg5krvjnukp3vbdwiqcv3zwbrcg6qh27kiwecm4qyfphid.onion/ ]
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Lately I've been interested in looking for a final solution to the imageboard problem, deplatforming and relying on centralized authorities for hosting. P2P through TOR seems like the most logical path forward. But the software would also need to be accessible, easily installed and understood by just about anyone, and easily secure/private by default.

Retroshare seemed like a decent choice, but unfortunately its forum function is significantly lacking in features. I haven't investigate too much into zeronet either but from what I recall that was a very bloated piece of software and I'm looking for something that's light and simple. Then there's BitChan (>>507) which fits most of the bill but contrasted with Retroshare is not simple to setup.

I know there is essentially nothing else out there so this thread isn't necessarily asking to be spoonfed some unknown piece of software that went under the radar of anons. But I think the concept of P2P imageboards should be further explored even though the failure of zeronet soured a lot of peoples perspective on the concept. Imageboards are so simple by nature I feel this shouldn't be as difficult as it is. Retroshare comes close but as I understand it you can't really moderate the forums that you create. Plus the media integration is basically non-existent, though media is a lesser concern. But having everything routed through tor and being able to mail, message, and ha
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>>845 (OP) 
why did you spell it "Decentralyzed"
are you the jews?
a decentralized imageboard, unaffected by US federal authority for any reason, is desperately needed. 

So far zzzchan and tvch have been good, but a fullproof site without any central authority is very much needed.
>>3047
maybe randomize different users to be mods for specific amount of time. That way it's spread out and one central authority (kikes) can't infiltrate and destroy.
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>>13286
>That way it's spread out and one central authority (kikes) can't infiltrate and destroy.
they can just create billions of "users" and then how often control lays on someone other than them is insignificant
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>>13289
Well, find out a way to identify real users from demoralizers. Maybe create your own captcha system other than cloudflare.

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I thought we should have one of these. Someone from the QTDDTOT suggested these questions for the thread.

>best private mail host?
>best private browser?
>how do you stay private online?
>how do you airgap your phone?
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>Best VPN

I imagine some people have made guides on privacy, so if you have any you can post them in this thread too.
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>>13167
why? what happened with whonix?
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>>12296
Dingleberry is excited to see one leak get fixed, while another 1000's remain, because every modern browser with millions of lines of code is a fucking monstrosity that will never be remotely secure or private.
And it just keeps getting worse and more bloated every year. We're long past the event horizon. No fucking way anyone with two brain cells is running these botnet browsers.
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>>13236
You need to get better at sensing who's opinions are worth listening to.

>>13237
>No fucking way anyone with two brain cells is running these botnet browsers.
Tails and Whonix already give you all the tools you need to use these browsers securely. If you haven't figured that out then it says more about your intelligence than anybody else's.

>>12296
>a file that has nothing to do with firefox contains files that firefox recently downloaded
What is your actual threat model here? You are downloading super illegal files and then an attacker breaks into your house, looks at your unencrypted harddrive and sees filenames of stuff you downloaded? At which point they already have access to files themselves in ~/Downloads/. Or to put it another way, whatever you are doing to protect the files you downloaded will also protect recently-used.xbel. So you're just chimping out over nothing.

If your browsing history is so secret then use a live system like Tails which can't save anything to persistent storage.
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>>13238
> tools
Oh gee, even more lines of code. You just just don't fucking get it, do you.
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>Russia has banned zzzchan
>Fixing the onion
bless you based mods. captcha doesnt work right now so i cant make new threads to make it more visible, but this thread is comfy
>spin up a gorrilion extra $1 domains if they really want to play ball
this is just unfathomably based, but you should spin up those hot new HTTPT webtunnel transports instead if you really wanna play anal ball with her

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Gulag for interesting offtopic discussions.
Try to keep it /tech/ related.
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>>13277
>Trying to detect exactly how much voltage is flowing to make a 1 or 2 or 3 or whatever starts getting difficult. 
MLC flash stores data this way.
>>13277
>ternary computers
Also note that at this point, having a ternary CPU would mean ALL software would have to be rewritten (or write a binary CPU emulator, but at that point why bother), which is something no one willing to do just for some theoretical speedup. Plan 9 failed, because it was a bit better than UNIX but at the price of breaking the API, and that was just some OS specific API change, not rethink the whole computational model.
Hello. And Bye.
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Anyone have photo of guy taking notes in uni on thinkpad with futa wallpaper? Bonus points for pic from desktop thread with same wallpaper.
>>13207
>>13208
Is there any of these Youtube pipers/scrapers that can handle comments and replies out there now?
Invidious has been sitting on a commit for weeks now doing nothing while Viewtube doesn't seem to be able to show replies.

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Are you employed in a technical capacity? What job is it? How did you get it? What does your daily wokload look like? Are you looking for a different line of work?
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Should have picked another career, this shit SUCKS and is OVERSATURATED.
And even if they hire you they can just boot you months after because their client just decided to end the contract.
Should've become a plumber.
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Auto test guy here, i quit my job. Currently looking for fresher position in dev and test. Did I make the right choice guy? My manager didn’t want me to quit, was about to let me in on another project interview. But I already failed twice before and once I’m in project I’m afraid to be overwhelmed and underperforming like before. im kinda sad right now
>>13228
My goal right now is to find a fresher position so that there will be in depth training and enough time for me to properly set up for real world project. Any advice is appreciated. I won’t give up on making tons of money coding and my dream of becoming the greatest programmer that ever lived.
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>>13228
>>13229
I think I have said it before, I am saying it again. You can either reroll on your INT or pick up another career. A few years ago, you can still pick up entry level positions without much skills. Now if you are not experienced or very well connected, you can kiss goodbye to any career prospect.
Case in point my place just cancelled raise and promotion for everyone. Despite me working my ass off for the entirety of my employment, with my manager telling me nobody is against my promotion just a week before.
In this market, you can't skill compete people, because nobody cares about your skills if you don't have experience. You can't resume compete people even more because lots of layoffs saturating entry level market with exFAGMANs.
>>13228
>i quit my job
There is currently a second Great Depression occurring if you are a straight white man. Do you have another job lined up where you can make half a million dollars a day, or will you be joining the bread line in four months?

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Thread dedicated to Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
(but are worth asking)

Before asking a question here, please search the web first or put in effort towards answering your own question. If you put in effort but you still can't find the solution, feel free to ask here.

If you are looking around for useful applications/programs, see >>531
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pls help
>>13295
Use indirect and row
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/INDIRECT
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/ROW
The scary part of the sudo lsof -i output
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   13u  IPv4 1650136      0t0  UDP *:54017 
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   14u  IPv4 1650137      0t0  UDP *:43890 
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   15u  IPv4 1650138      0t0  UDP *:55200 
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   16u  IPv4 1650139      0t0  UDP *:44781 
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   17u  IPv4 1650140      0t0  UDP *:33959 
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   18u  IPv4 1650141      0t0  UDP *:53711 
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   19u  IPv4 1650142      0t0  UDP *:54861 
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   20u  IPv4 1650143      0t0  UDP *:55005 
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   21u  IPv4 1650144      0t0  UDP *:40646 
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   22u  IPv4 1650145      0t0  UDP *:41719 
>transmiss 4017 debian-transmission   23u  IPv4 1650146      0t0  UDP *:43382 
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>>13301
Seeding happens over UDP so that's probably a port for every peer you're talking to.
>>13301
>debian

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Discuss /tech/-related news.
What will happen if section 230 is nuked?
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Google claims the credits for Jpeg XLs achievements while still REFUSING to implement it
They took some code from Jpeg XL and made a better Jpeg encoder and called it Jpegli.
Google bragged about it like like they just invented the wheel.
https://opensource.googleblog.com/2024/04/introducing-jpegli-new-jpeg-coding-library.html
Of course that btfo'd webp again.

And they also made a retarded extension to Jpeg called Jpeg_R for HDR images which they implemented on android.

They keep working around Jpeg XL in every manner possible.
How can one company be so kiked?
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>>13262
The original ELITE used it as a PRNG to generate its world. Computers of the time were too basic to store the game's entire world, so the developer used fibonacci as a PRNG and seeded it from a fixed seed, then used the output to procedurally generate the world Minecraft-style.
>>13274
<The internet has changed the way we live, work, and communicate. However, it can turn into a source of frustration when pages load slowly. At the heart of this issue lies the encoding of images.
No it does not. At the heart of this issue lies megabytes of autoplaying videos, tracking scripts, and massive JS abominations. Remove the images entirely from any modern webpage and you still get the exact same slow loading bullshit... Reducing the size of images by a few kilobytes (at best, I'm being generous) is not gonna do shit.
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>>13282
There's also the whole stack's inefficiency. At least one round trip for DNS (could be more with e.g. CNAME records or DoT), another for TCP, 2 more for TLS, at least one other for the HTTP request (could have redirects), and then the page itself links other domains elsewhere with parts of the page and it has to start all over, and the browser sends several HTTP requests to the same server because HTTP can't handle multiple files in parallel or batch small files (which means it spends significant amounts of time between finishing a small file download and requesting the next doing nothing), etc.

And that's forgetting that browsers are all several orders of magnitude slower and bigger than they have to be.
>>13282
No, progressive decoding does play a significant part. Like it or not.
Especially on imageboard servers which are sometimes pretty slow.
Webp and AVIF can't decode progressively. If the image is 5 MB, you have to download it all and decode it all before you get to see anything.

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ive always ignored my dad's insistence on Arduino on me until i started doing CS in college, where should i start? I did a little bit of soldering but i have no idea how a breadboard works, or what the fuck is grounding.
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Your dad sounds gay
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>>13231
he loves star trek.
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>>13232
that confirms it
>>13230 (OP) 
You should learn basic dc circuitry while diving into arduino stuff. Grab yourself a basic learning/breadboard kit and actually breadboard out something before soldering it. Doesn't need to involve a microcontroller, just enough to learn to read basic circuit diagrams and follow them. You don't need any fancy tools, just get a cheap multimeter and soldering iron (with some desolder braid, very important). "Getting started with electronics" by Forrest M Mimms is a great starting book too, has a lot of illustrations that make learning concepts easy.
What's a solid microcontroller for relaxed stability pitch control in homemade toy aircraft?
Doesn't have to be fast but has to be very reliable in real time conditions.

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Any ideas on how to shield internet discourse from highly proficient, Turing-Test-passing chatbots sicced on given economical, political and cultural goals set by an unchecked and unbalanced third party?
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My gut tells me that 4chin is pretty much overrun with bots already. How could I go and test this empirically?
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>>13180
My advice? If you're familiar with LLMs and the associated technology, I would build something that compares LLM (and other "AI"-related stuff) outputs out genuine human posts.

Also, I suggest looking up some shitty "AI detection" services, specifically the ones that offer you services on "making AI undetectable,", and analyze their scrambled prompts too- if their services are free that is. Their actual detection tools are hot-fucking-garbage, but clearly their market is not revealing AI, but making it more-obfuscated, so if you can make something that can sniff out obfuscated output, you can really put a hole in these "undetectable" bot-posters.

On the surface. I've noticed that chatGPT-prompted posts often are built like a school paper: They start off with what they want, they explain their piece, and then reiterate it at the end. Emojis can be there, but that's more common for Google's AI-bot (whatever it's called nowadays) than chatGPT.

Human posts are unstructured and spontaneous. Just questions and answers, context is there but it's not structured like a research paper or a journo's article.

Also. 4chins has been bot-spammed for a least a decade. There's a repost somewhere that showed how the glownogs fucked up and set their bot to post on literally -all- boards when it was meant for either /mu/ or /lit/ that day.
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>>11070
>Muh internets ids will prevent AI botting!
Meanwhile in reality gobberment/corporations would be issuing free IDs to their own official bots while everyone else get their balls firmly grasped by them.
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>>13184
Just like they do with captchas now, including having multiple tiers of good goy social credit score so the biggest NPCs who are logged into a google account and have no privacy extensions and all privacy settings on default almost always get one-click captchas.
>>11007
>I don't think the globalist kikes care what you (or anyone) think
If all the propaganda and censorship was unnecessary then they wouldn't be doing it.

>it's only the White population they're trying to genocide
That's not true they're doing this shit everywhere. They're flooding asia with indians, flooding india with arabs, flooding europe with blacks. You only think it is specifically targeting whites because that's what you see first hand.

>>13184
>Meanwhile in reality gobberment/corporations would be issuing free IDs to their own official bots while everyone else get their balls firmly grasped by them.
Using public/private keys and web of trust would work though. You don't even have to give up anonymity because with zero knowledge proofs you can confirm that somebody has a minimum level of trust or a member of a trusted group without knowing who they are. And as long as it is a distributed network the values can't be fucked with either.

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>>1 (OP) 
>Discuss methods to remove >systemd.
I'm sure you heard the news already but anyway: https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/4

>After observing a few odd symptoms around liblzma (part of the xz package) on
Debian sid installations over the last weeks (logins with ssh taking a lot of
CPU, valgrind errors) I figured out the answer:
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>The upstream xz repository and the xz tarballs have been backdoored.

Long story short:
>Debian and Fedora patch OpenSSH daemon to link libsystemd include sg_notify()
>libsystemd links liblzma
>liblzma is compromised over the course of a year or more
>Every distribution which includes given patch for OpenSSH are vulnerable, other distros (esp. non-systemd) are probably fine.

Poettering claims you don't need systemd to be vulnerable https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39867126
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>>13190
I still dream of a day when these idiots will come out and say "alright, we fucked up with shoving systemd down everyone's throats, sorry, we will use a saner init system now" but I just know they will double down with systemd shit.
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>>13190
Heh, I have a modified Ubuntu where I run BusyBox init instead of systemd. But I guess it wouldn't help in this particular case. Fortunately I don't run sshd at all on Linux, and the only way to login is the console tty or serial port.

>>13205
They'll never admit anything, because ultimately it's a CIA nigger backdoor. Just do whatever you can to isolate yourself from their nasty shit.
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>>13206
Yeah it's just a dream of mine, I know it's retarded, but still. I already picked a non systemd distro back when I jumped ship to Linux full time, so that is not an issue for me.

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