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NEW >>>/a/ REPEAT REPEAT NEW >>>/a/

Regarding recent events: >>>/meta/4978 


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Meta-Thread: >>190
'Useful programs'
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications

'Wikis'
4/g/ Wiki
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/
8/tech/ Wiki
https://wiki.cloveros.ga/Main_Page (link dead)
Linux distro wikis (can apply to all distros)
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

'Tech article sites (need to add more)'
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://digdeep4orxw6psc33yxa2dgmuycj74zi6334xhxjlgppw6odvkzkiad.onion/ ]
https://spyware.neocities.org/ [ onion: http://spywaredrcdg5krvjnukp3vbdwiqcv3zwbrcg6qh27kiwecm4qyfphid.onion/ ]
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(In lieu of the usual thread on 4/g/ and me being unaware of any other imageboards with a similar general I'll remake the thread here)

Everything is already from China, but here we discuss the (formerly kek) cheap chink shit you see on various sites.

1st rule of /csg/: if it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

Useful links
>TWS IEM reviews: https://www.scarbir.com/
>Guide: https://csg-guide.neocities.org/
>installgentoo wiki: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Chink_shit_general

>What headphones/earbuds should I buy?
>>>/g/iemg
>I want a cheap smartphone what should I buy?
>>>/g/spg/
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Ali put a banner up in the app saying prices will rise soon. Pretty sure it's just fearmongering.
csg withdrawal got to me. is this what we have been reduced to? where are all the csg posters I'm going to lose my shit.
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>>15824
everybody was a discord retard, they're all hanging out in their little discords now
only reason I'm here is I already knew about this site
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Would shipping from China be tariffed if the seller marks it down on the shippment?
>>15825
Discord has done more to destroy the internet 
than tiktok had.
>>15825
dang, that sucks. anyways, hello to you too.

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 Discuss alternative OSes that are not Linux, Windows or Mac OSX. 
Also post your criticism of UNIX, Windows and Fag OSX design ITT.
If you want to discuss GNU/Linux distros, there is already a thread for it: >>>/tech/530
The package manager thread can be also useful: >>>/tech/4739


Some hastily written notes...
* everyone thinks UNIX (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc4ROCJYbm0) is still the state-of-art. Ignorants praise Windows, not knowing it's originally a dumbed down clone of VMS that has some patches ported from OS/2 (https://www.itprotoday.com/compute-engines/windows-nt-and-vms-rest-story). Some say that Windows is also still mainly a single-user system that emulates a multi-user system. I think we are living Higurashi tier time loop when it comes to operating systems...
 (and CPUs: X86 is relic from the times of Vaxen. ARM, PowerPC/Power ISA, MIPS, RISC-V are more modern and better. Even modern X86 CPUs converts CISC to RISC in the microcode!)
* Plan9 (9front? Also, see plan9port and 9base), BeOS (Haiku) and TempleOS were the last innovative operating systems that I know of. Even the OSDev people imitate UNIX.
* It's awful that a misbehaving device driver can take down the whole system. Microkernels (e.g. MINIX, GNU Hurd, seL4) or muh """hybrid kernels""" (e.g. DragonFly BSD, Haiku, ReactOS I don't know if modern Windows has a hybrid kernel.) should be the norm. MINIX is incidentally perhaps the most used OS because ((( Intel ME ))) uses it as a basis for the CIAware that runs on our fucken CPUs!
* Nearly all criticism of UNIX is historic stuff: The UNIX-HATERS Handbook (https://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf a joke), Multicians (https://www.multicians.org/) and LispM (http://fare.tunes.org/LispM.html) users...
* Worse is better or do the right thing? https://www.dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html & https://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html
* Some modern UNIX-related innovations: 9p, DTrace, Solaris Zones & FreeBSD Jails, Nix & Guix...

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>>4968 (OP) 
this might be interesting 
(squeak/smalltalk as baremetal/ without OS)

https://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1762
https://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5727
just like schizo terry to have the background colors of the ukranian flag
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>>14533
it's meant to represent an elephant in its natural habitat, the savannah, where the ground is typically made of dried grass and sparse trees and shrubbery. the fact it's bright yellow like that is due to the OS extremely limited color palette, and not a deliberate artistic choice.
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>>14534
I understand faggot just a little coincidental.
Is Haiku usable as a daily driver OS? I heard that it has POSIX compatibility layer, so I might try it. Also, is there any micro kernel OS that's actually close to being at least mostly usable? I don't mind bad performance or jank, if it's mostly usable.

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Repost of the Julay /tech/ sticky with some minor edits: https://archive.vn/znAXT
Beginner Info
If you would like to try out GNU/Linux because of https://itvision.altervista.org/why-windows-10-sucks.html, you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine (preferably using KVM or Oracle VirtualBox for newfriends).
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything (keep in mind that the performance of live distros might be very different than from distro that was booted from your HDD, as most distros are loaded in RAM and don't include the proprietary drivers for NVIDIA GPUs or up-to-date Mesa libraries in their isos).
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows (make sure to install Windows first, as it can "replace" GRUB or other UNIX bootloaders, and troubleshooting of Windows replacing your bootloader of choice might be painful for people that just started learning about the Linux kernel)
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux (you really shouldn't do this, if you don't know what you're putting yourself into, see: https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html).

Resources:
Use your web browser and search engine of choice. Good comparison between them is hosted here:
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html
https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/search.html
If not sure which browser to choose, just use the Tor Browser Bundle:
https://www.torproject.org/
or paste these commands to your terminal emulator of choice (please make sure to first learn what they're exactly doing):
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>>14131
You can use artix or even gentoo, if you use a binhost.
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Yesterday I tried to install Devuan Daedalus again (i tried to install it back in April) and it seems they .iso is still broken. 
Then I tried Chimaera and was only able to install it with xfce; its a shame, I wanted it with KDE but it seems its broken too.
I really liked runit, but for now its back to Debian 12 and systemd.
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>>14137
Everyone uses the netinstall iso. It uses tasksel to select the desktop (at least in Expert Installation). It just works.
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>>14131
MX

>>14137
>>14143
my attempts at devuan didn't go past formatting partitions because I couldn't get a BTRFS setup with subvolumes
Artix broke me, it's like i've now lost the ability to install anything if i'm not typing stuff in a terminal
>>530 (OP) 
Is Bedrock Linux any good?
>https://bedrocklinux.org

"Bedrock Linux is a meta Linux distribution which allows users to mix-and-match components from other, typically incompatible distributions. Bedrock integrates these components into one largely cohesive system."

It's basically like Distrobox but without containers.

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Thread dedicated to Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
(but are worth asking)

Before asking a question here, please search the web first or put in effort towards answering your own question. If you put in effort but you still can't find the solution, feel free to ask here.

If you are looking around for useful applications/programs, see >>531
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>>15817
eh?
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>>15817
Unrelated but not long ago I had a weird dream where I visited a McDonald's and I found Moonman there, but ironically enough it was a fat nigger woman cosplaying as him.
>>15816
https://huggingface.co/hexgrad/Kokoro-82M but self-host
https://huggingface.co/coqui/XTTS-v2
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>>15821
https://github.com/NeuralFalconYT/Kokoro-82M-WebUI
>no AMD gpu installation
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>>15672
I would just install scrot and make a keybinding that runs scrot -s

>>15714
>>15712
Artix Linux has 2 mirrors list files: one for Artix itself and a second file (mirrorlist-arch) for Arch Linux repos (if you enabled them). You need to have both mirrorlists up to date. Artix and Arch should receive new updates daily.

>>15734
They can use ADB to make a full backup of your phone (honestly, they can just use a cloud storage app to do it). They can also use it to install any app from a .apk package.

>>15783
I haven't ran a hidden service but I have read about it in the past. The only glaring mistake in the guide is that it tells you to use Ubuntu instead of Ubuntu Server. Also, make sure to enable automatic security updates. I also suggest locking the root account and using a different account with sudo access (the root account is pretty much guaranteed to always exist, so the attacker doesn't need to guess your username before he can start brute-forcing your password).


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Gulag for interesting offtopic discussions.
Try to keep it /tech/ related.
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>>15797
I hope rust+ubuntu fails so gnu+linux will never die
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>>15800
Or at GNU Rust becomes a thing, so it's still at least GNU+Rust/Linux. We're all doomed either way, but at least it would be GNU/doomed.
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>>15801
In daydark 40k there is only grinux.
You should go back
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>>15805
There's nothing to go back to. It's ogre.

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Well, another content hosting site hits the wall. Better scrape high resolution hummingbirds ASAP. Is it the natural course of things, or the jewish one?
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I already stopped going there years ago, when they made javascript mandatory.
Reminder that Flickr hosts a ton of CC-licensed media which can be legally mirrored on websites like Wikimedia Commons.

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Discussion about "AI"s, deep learning, llms and others.
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>>15675
If you have money, the best way to run llm right now is to buy chinese modded 4090, 48gb vram each, get 4 of them and you can generate so much hentai code.
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>>15678
Currently out of my budget, though I may try to get an "AI" system for cheap if/when the "Open"AI bubble bursts.
It is more likely I'll just get a Chinese RISC-V system that happens to have a TPU though.

I've also downloaded Unsloth's DeepSeek-V3-0324 231GB model. Runs at only 0.5 tokens/s but it skips the lengthy "thinking" stage.
Apparently llama.cpp supports distributed inference. I have some old hardware that's just gathering dust, perhaps I should recommission it.
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I improved DeepSeek-V3 performance from 0.5 to 1.2 tokens/s by tuning the filesystem:
- I was using transparent ZSTD compression at first, which had much higher overhead than I anticipated (fast NVMe SSDs are something else...).
- LLMs are already highly compressed, so gains from LZ4 are <0.5% or less. Not worth the CPU overhead, even if quite minimal.
- Checking htop, CPU I/O overhead still seemed substantial. I decided to wipe the SSD entirely with nvme format and put xfs on it (instead of f2fs).
- I copied the files with rsync -rav --preallocate and also ensured it actually is defragmented with xfs_fsr to ensure filesystem overhead is minimal.

Checking with iotop, I/O bandwidth is about
- 5.6G/s during warmup
- 6.0G/s to 6.5g/s when parsing input
- 2.5G/s to 3.8G/s when emitting tokens

Doubling the amount of threads (on a 8C/16T CPU) only slows it down, which suggests I'm DRAM-bandwidth limited again. So fixing the timings is next on the menu.

DeepSeek-R1 performance also improved a bit, from 1.4 tokens/s to 1.66 tokens/s

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i swear deepseek will make debloating bots mainstream again where we will see comeback of <500 token bots since all your tokens are being wasted on this "reasoning" thing
>>15752
No. Offtopic dumping is spam. Posting pictures for discussions is on topic.
Dumping in an AI picture dump thread would be on topic but the thread is offtopic for /tech/.
Use >>190 for meta next time.

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The modern internet is absolute cancer, so here's some old-school alternatives to some of the major aspects of the modern web. If you have any others you'd like to mention and discuss, feel free.

Instead of social media and forums, try using Usenet and BBSes. There exists many a BBS to choose from, and you can even create your own. Usenet newsgroups exist for many, many topics, and if you wanna create one (ideally based on a topic with some decent amount of appeal), you can even present your idea to the folks at alt.config and they *may* create a newsgroup for you.

Instead of blogging on sites like Tumblr, Myspace, and all those sites with period blood smeared all over them, try running a Gopherspace. It's text-only and uncluttered, and there's no JavaShit to bog down the experience.

Instead of GitHub, host all your code on an FTP site. And instead of posting videos to JewTube, you can make the videos downloadable on that same FTP site, along with anything else you wanna offer up.

Finally, instead of insecure messaging applications, use encrypted email.
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>>15697
It's not worth running a mail server anyway because of all the spam.
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>>15698
rspamd
>t. selfhosted mail server enjoyer
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>>15699
But there's nothing fun about running a spam filter. It just wastes a lot of resources. I'd rather just let my ISP handle it, since I'm already paying them for that shit.
simply host your http site as txt files on tor&i2p. you can use images and video, just link them separately. gemini and gopher are bloat and memes. not just html, all markup is bloat.
>ftp
absolutely no reason for that shit. host big files as torrents (including over i2p to hide your ip)
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>>15743
Gopher doesn't use markup. It's really just very, very simple and small.
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/0/gopher/tech/rfc1436.txt

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I've been thinking about writing a blog. Nothing fancy. No private lives. No pictures. No product-shilling. Just writing words.

I tried Blogger and Wordpress and I had a bad experience with them, considering that the ToS became more restrictive over the years.
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>>5619
>>5620
I combine both because Maggit (emacs' git interface) makes it peak comfyjj
>>5598 (OP) 
gemini is text only protocol by nerds
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All you need is your text editor. Save as plain text. Upload anywhere you want, but preferably not to FAGMAN, because they'll fuck you with ToS like you found out. Gopher is perfect for text.
Just host .txt files.
>>15728
Gemini is bloat. Just serve plaintext. View with curl | less.

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