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What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?

On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding the Hikikomori  lifestyle anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living  and also post general hikikomori discussion If you're content with being a hikikomori  that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so.

Make Sure to read the rules before posting.

https://zzzchan.xyz/hikki/custompage/rules.html

WHAT  Does HIKIKOMORI MEAN?

The term Hikikomori ひきこもり or 引きこもり is a Japanese word that when translated into English it means  “pulling inward, being confined”,acute social withdrawal “)  in context of a person the term refers to a shut-in who stays home and does not leave their room for very long periods  usually   for about 6 months or more.

WHAT IS A HIKIKOMORI?

Hikikomori is a social condition in which the affected individual isolates themselves away from society at home in their parents house in their room for a period exceeding six months  . The Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare of Japan defines hikikomori as a condition in which the affected individuals refuse to leave their parents' house, and isolate themselves away from society and their family in their bedrooms  for a period exceeding six months but is not directly caused by  a physical condition or other psychological   problem.
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>>377
>Which is a big difference, I don't know why you're trying to conflate the two.

Many people in both Asia and the  west use the term NEET  when talking about hikikomori people.

>Although, I do admit most hikkis are NEETs, due to the nature of being a hikikomori.

That's completely wrong all hikikomori are NEETs. They don't leave their rooms they rely on their parents or someone else to provide for them  or live on government assistance and have very little or no social contact  if you're working or are in some kind of education in any way you're still apart of society. The whole purpose behind hikikomori is to completely  withdraw from society including working and school.

> The main purpose of the board is about being an hikikomori, and not a NEET.

No shit i know the difference i ran the original board i am not stupid anon. 

>This doesn't say anything about you being a hikki, only that you're still a NEET. So now tell me this, are you a hikki or not?

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>>378
>Many people in both Asia and the  west use the term NEET  when talking about hikikomori people.

I don't care that many people in asia conflate the two (which i doubt), but they're very different things. 

>That's completely wrong all hikikomori are NEETs. They don't leave their rooms they rely on their parents or someone else to provide for them  or live on government assistance and have very little or no social contact  if you're working or are in some kind of education in any way you're still apart of society. The whole purpose behind hikikomori is to completely  withdraw from society including working and school.

MOST hihikomoris are NEETs, hikikomoris can still work online, or play the stock market to generate an income for themselves. They're quite a few ways to earn money without social interaction. You can also attain education through the internet, so AGAIN you're wrong. Which btw, NEETs by definition cannot do, or else you're not a NEET.

>No shit i know the difference i ran the original board i am not stupid anon. 

You don't seem to know the difference, which lends credibility to the original poster >>369. Because you cannot seem to grasp the differences between the two, which makes you stupid, or just lying about being a hikki.

>As i said many people use the term NEET when referring to hikikomori people so yes i am a hikikomori they are the same damn thing anon only with a few differences you're arguing about pointless shit who cares if i replace hikikomori with NEET?  

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>>379
>I don't care that many people in asia conflate the two (which i doubt), but they're very different things. 

 Well that's probably because you have never lurked  the hiki and NEET boards on 2channel nor have you met nor talked to actual Japanese people like i have. They use the term NEET  interchangeably with hikikomori all the time.

> hikikomoris can still work online, or play the stock market to generate an income for themselves. They're quite a few ways to earn money without social interaction. You can also attain education through the internet,

You're missing the point even if you're working or taking classes  online  you're still apart of the system and still apart of society and still contributing to it just not in the traditional  way   real hikikomoris do not contribute to society at all nor are they finically independent.  Go watch a documentary on the subject not a single one shows them working a job because that's not what they are hikikomori are socially withdrawn NEETs. 

>Because you cannot seem to grasp the differences between the two, which makes you stupid, or just lying about being a hikki.


You can believe whatever you want be a  fucking retard i don't give a shit that's your choice. 

>The differences between the two are profound, a NEET can go out and socialize, which nearly all NEETs do. if they didn't, that would make them hikkis also, hence having different words to differentiate the two. You seem to want to conflate being a trust fund kid who never worked a job in his life, in current education and training (def. NEET) that is hyper social (going to bars with his friends etc.), to Satou from N.H.K.
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> plus like i said i didn't wanna do this shit anymore and  honestly i feel like you're just salty that i don't wanna be a NEET anymore oh how dare i wanna live a normal life LMFAO  

 >you're also purposefully evading my question, are you a hikki are not?
 
>Not really i actually said i was still one at the beginning of this 

> You said at the beginning of the post ->
>I never said i wasn't a NEET i still am i was planning on  looking for a job but codvid extended my   NEETdom for a little bit longer 

This doesn't say anything about you being a hikki, only that you're still a NEET. So now tell me this, are you a hikki or not?

> As i said many people use the term NEET when referring to hikikomori people so yes i am a hikikomori they are the same damn thing anon only with a few differences you're arguing about pointless shit who cares if i replace hikikomori with NEET?  
hmmm? I think other anons are able to see the hypocrisy and running away from answering a direct question. 

> You don't seem to know the difference, which lends credibility to the original poster >>369. Because you cannot seem to grasp the differences between the two, which makes you stupid, or just lying about being a hikki.
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>>381
>hmmm? I think other anons are able to see the hypocrisy and running away from answering a direct question. 

No you're just a  schizo who doesn't know how to fucking read nor have you interacted with a Japanese person before. Go on 2channel go on 2chan heck go on fucking  4chan in both Asia and the west NEET is used interchangeably  with hikikomori all the time.

>You  can have fun all you want interacting with the current BO. Both of you are hypocritical and not lefit hikikomoris, keep pretending and running places to replace the lack of actual social contact but you’ll never be true hikikomoris and I was a dumbass for trusting the current BO too.

You can believe whatever you want that's your choice  but the reality is most of what that kid says isn't true.

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what has your family's reaction been to you being a hikikomori? I've noticed my family almost stopped caring about my lifestyle entirely after I entered my late 20s.
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>>350
>stopped killing spiders because they take care of annoying insects
>room is now full of spiders
>after a while these fuckers show up (they eat spiders)
That's when i had enough, fuck this nature shit, now I just kill everything
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>>354
I think spiders lay eggs way more often. House centipedes only do so in the spring but they still lay a decent amount do you should probably kill one if you keep seeing it and if it's relatively warm out since they lay them in the spring.
>>354
I've never had a spider problem but I have had a silverfish problem. I haven't seen a single silverfish ever since I've let the house centipedes move in.
>>354
I generally don't kill spiders because they rarely bother me, but they don't improve anything, the bugs are as bad as they always were. Every food chain level that you add to your environment only makes the problem worse. Let in spiders to eat the bugs and you have both, then you have centipedes, spiders and bugs. Then frogs to eat the centipedes and then snakes to eat the frogs, and then coyotes to eat the snakes, and so on. Keep going and your room will eventually become a zoo, and every single animal will still be there. It sucks and I need a permanent solution. Maybe living in a dry region could help. Anyway, I still always kill spiders that are too big, even though I leave the small ones alone unless they get too close to me. Just the other day, there was one on my ceiling and I killed it with a thrust from a giant ruler that I have, after wrapping some paper on the tip to not get it dirty. Only missed once. Surprisingly satisfying.
Im back and I have ac. Ill reply later today or tommarow now that I can think straight

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Just like the suicide thread in the previous board. Share any struggles you might have regarding suicide, any past failed attempts and/or why do you think suicide may be the answer to all this you're going through. 

I've been procrastinating/delaying my suicide plan for over 5 years now, partly because I'm scared of what comes after death as I cannot know for sure what will happen once I'm on the other side and this kind of scaring me and holding me back from killing myself. Maybe it's the survival instinct in the end? I attempted suicide for like 8 times in 3 years now and every-time I was saved by either a stranger or a family member and this didn't change my mindset or made me think less of it. The desire to eradicate this body, this existence is getting stronger day after day especially these days, but I'm still hesitating to actually go with it, as I still have somewhat of a brief feeling of hope that my ways might change in the future but then I rethink it and figure out that I'm in my early 20's now and still haven't done anything significant with my life, still trying to find a purpose, a motivation or maybe a dream to live for, meanwhile everyone my age around me is graduating college and passing through different phases with their lives, all while I'm still stuck in the no-purpose teenage-like kind of existentialism. It really gets very boring everyday and Idk what to do anymore.
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I just can't fucking die. I have been depressed since childhood, tried to hang myself as a kid, failed. Tried carotid compression a couple of times about 5 years ago, failed. Tried to overdose on a drug earlier this year, failed. Just give me a fucking gun or take me to the rooftop of a very tall building. Just let me die already. I have lost the fear of death decades ago, I just need a surefire method. 
>>212
I know your pain, anon. Never tried suicide by cop, though. At least not yet.
Im not good at typing long messages. I wokeup this morning with this whole idea of writing out my life story. Explaining and justifying my need for this. But Honestly iv done it so many times to so many people it gets tiring.  Hearing the same things back over and over "you have your whole life ahead of you, theres so much you can do blalblalba"  Dont get me started on religious shit
Ill just say I grew up in abuse poverty gunshots and death. Mental Disabilities Adding up but no help. As a kid and worse so as an adult in my 30s
 My point is I am alone. I cant talk to anyone about this. the more I try to reach out the more i isolate myself from people. They dont want to talk about this type of thing, or they just spout out the list of things i should do (Ie. Get help, get a job at walmart meditate) to push it off of them.They try to change the subject or strait up ignore me. 
I just want legit adult conversations about depression where death is a legit option. Understanding the stuggles in life with out being patronized.  Its so hard to find a safe place to just chat about wanting to die with out being kicked trolled deleted or having to default to defending my decision. Its just ... Lonly. iv seen messgae boreds but because of trolling it takes forever to get scanned in. Idk if i want a chat room or what...I guess I just dont want to be alone with my thoughts, or when I decide to go
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>>362
>I grew up in abuse poverty gunshots and death. Mental Disabilities Adding up but no help. As a kid and worse so as an adult in my 30s
>My point is I am alone. I cant talk to anyone about this. the more I try to reach out the more i isolate myself from people. They dont want to talk about this type of thing.
>I just want legit adult conversations about depression where death is a legit option. Understanding the stuggles in life with out being patronized.  Its so hard to find a safe place to just chat about wanting to die with out being kicked trolled deleted or having to default to defending my decision. Its just ... Lonly.
I know how you feel because I'm not normal either, and I also grew up in a shitty violent place and went through a lot of abuse, without help from anyone. I'm e28e3f, but my ID probably changed by now. Since I don't have a suicide surefire suicide method on hands, I might as well chat with you here, you have my words that I will not patronize you, I hate people who downplay the suffering of others.
>Dont get me started on religious shit
>they just spout out the list of things i should do (Ie. Get help, get a job at walmart meditate) to push it off of them.
I'm religious too, and meditation isn't a fake advice, but its
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>>362
https://sanctioned-suicide.org/
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>>364
I can second the recommendation of this link. The people there are a bit normalfaggy, at least for my standards, but they're good people.

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What games have you been playing recently /hikki/? What's the game you have put the most hours into?
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Why? Why can't I beat him? How is he so strong? Makes the Shin Akuma in 2nd Impact look like a joke. Maybe I should use another character.
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>>341
Cheesy enemies can only be countered by being cheesier than them.
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>>342
I guess I will have to find some cheap move to spam, but even that isn't very easy against superbosses that can counter anything perfectly and take half of your health whenever you press a button and stop blocking for one frame. Probably should watch videos to see what other people do.
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>>344
>but even that isn't very easy against superbosses that can counter anything perfectly and take half of your health whenever you press a button and stop blocking for one frame.
Fighting games AI are a bitch to beat, they read your inputs.
>Probably should watch videos to see what other people do.
That's a good idea.
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>>346
They do, but it's more of an issue of reaction time. Generally the AI defends kinda inconsistently even though it knows exactly what you're going, but strong AIs can react to everything almost perfectly if it wants to. Even weaker AIs sometimes have instant DPs and it's really annoying. Super Turbo has a lot of that, but even then, it doesn't always do it because there is a limit to how much it's allowed to, and it's mostly used for anti-air. Thankfully the AI never gets too crazy in SF3. If it did, it would be a really big problem because of the parries. Though Shin Akuma does still parry four attacks in a row sometimes and then destroys you.

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Share your daily routine anons 

I'm a little bit more productive these days and feeling good on the emotional and mental side, so I been waking up early in the morning and adjusting to my new plans for the remaining 6 months of this year.
>wake up at 5-7 am 
>use face cleanser and wash teeth, make a hot cup of green tea
>planning my food for the day as I been doing OMAD for half a month now, seeing as it's easier to manage the meal and get my daily needed calories and proteins, instead of having to eat 3+ times a day
>go online, lurk shitchan /fit/ and watch some YT videos of the people I'm subbed to
>watch a movie 
>5 PM. sit down to eat my daily meal
>7-8 PM. Meditate and do some relaxing techniques to chill down before heading to bed
>sleep at 9 PM max. 
I've been thinking about adding a one hour working-out plan to my routine but I'm still kind of lazy and ain't able to go through with it, but it's getting better or at least I'm hoping it gets better and I actually manage to add an exercise plan to my day. 
Also I live in a very negative environment inside my parents house and it's been drastically affecting my mental health far more than what isolation does to me and I'm really sick of it bu
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>>270
>>wageslave 7am to 4pm

Get the fuck out.
>>274

This if you have a  job you're not a hiki.
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>Wake up late afternoon or early evening
>Eat while browsing imageboards
>Continue browsing imageboards for the rest of the night
>Sleep at early in the morning
>Repeat
The only routine better than this would be spending the rest of my days buried in the graveyard. No, I don't even have any interests like playing vidya or watching anime anymore, I'm tired of it all.
>wakes up at random hour
>eats something and drinks water
>starts thinking about what cool things i could do today like watching anime or playing vidya 
>instead of doing any of these i waste the entire day lurking around the internet and/or feeling bad about myself 
>goes to sleep 
>repeat
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>>336
>wakes up at random hour
>eats something and drinks water
>starts thinking about what cool things i could do today like watching anime or playing vidya 
>instead of doing any of these i waste the entire day lurking around the internet and/or feeling bad about myself 
>goes to sleep 
>repeat

every. fucking. day. only with coffee and the occasional coom sesh

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A continuation of the old thread on the old board. How far did you get before abandoning everything? 
I was never able to finish my first year of high school before dropping out until I was forced in my early 20s to going to night school to get a diploma before cutting off everything completely.
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I had a psychotic break at 18 and while I've never had such a thing happen again the past 6 years, I've never fully recovered.
I think I will be a hikikomori for the rest of my life. I am so terrified of the outdoors.
I dropped out of high school then was a hikki for about 6 years. Then I went back to trade school and got a diploma, been working since.

I don't tell people for obvious reasons but I feel like I can on here. Initially the only reason I started the process of stopping being a hikki was to make my parents feel like I was getting my life back on track, and I was planning on killing myself as soon as they died. At least they would have gone to their graves without being ashamed of their useless son.

It's been a while since then though and I just kept up the charade then I finished school and found myself at a well paying job and bought a house. I'm not suicidal anymore. These days I'm basically an employed hikki since they're having us work from home for the foreseeable future. I go out once or so a month to stock up on groceries and don't leave my land. I have stuff I have to do in my yard every so often so I don't consider myself a hikki but I'm not far from it these days. I work, play video games and watch anime and that's my life. Could be worse.
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>>300
>employed 
>hikki
you are an ex-hikki at best let's be real here
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>>304
Yeah I don't consider myself one anymore, but is there anything that states that a hikki can't have income without leaving their domicile? Not hikki-neet, just hikki.
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>>308
>t is there anything that states that a hikki can't have income without leaving their domicile? Not hikki-neet, just hikki.

>The Japanese Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare defines hikikomori as a condition in which the affected individuals refuse to leave their parents' house, do not work or go to school and isolate themselves away from society and family in a single room for a period exceeding six months.[10] The psychiatrist Tamaki Saitō defines hikikomori as "a state that has become a problem by the late twenties, that involves cooping oneself up in one's own home and not participating in society for six months or longer, but that does not seem to have another psychological problem as its principal source".[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori

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well /hikki/, what is the best and worst incarnation of nhk? the light novel will always be better then both the anime and manga to me and the anime is worse then the manga.
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>>224
Have you read the light novel?
>>223
That's fair. However what do you feel about the anime watering the story down?
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>>225
I don't have a problem with the anime at all, it's fantastic (one of my favorites) and it's one hell of an emotional roller coaster (especially if you drink a lot), and funny too. The fact that every version is different is more of an advantage. Easier to justify finishing all of them. I have the OST too, and it's great and only exists because the anime does.
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>>233
>The fact that every version is different is more of an advantage. Easier to justify finishing all of them. I have the OST too, and it's great and only exists because the anime does.
that's Fair anon, the music is the best part of the anime as well.
I'm reading the official English translation of the LN, how accurate is it?
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>>309
its alright.

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fuckin nerds haha
get rekt
you get hard from people laughing @ u?
#BringOurBulliesBack
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>>99 (OP) 
first gets to you little bitches
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>>100
Whyd you have to waste it here

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