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I think Orlog has either been vanned or is vacationing. Or hell, he could be too busy playing the Oblivion Remake. This place's PPH has gone to hell since that game released.
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>>9155
>european fantasy über game released
>nobody posts here anymore
Perhaps we should ask for more GTAs instead?
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>>9156
I'm homeless and noticed finding a job can take 20 interviews or so. We do need more GTA's and drill rap released.
>has anybody noticed when they advocate for direct action, essentially one of the few things, only one thing can save the White race?
     Others will attempt to de-radicalize those who are all for direct action?
       The three prongs are essential. Passive and direct. And front facing groups to face ZOG.
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Got a question for any /k/ommandos or adjacent anons out here. How does a round made of steel perform in relation to lead ones? 9x19, for example.
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>>9158
>How does a round made of steel perform in relation to lead ones?
Absolute shit. Steel is far too light. There is a reason that AP munitions have a penetrator core and are not simply made of hardened material.
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>>9157
Videogames are one of the most powerful forces holding back Revolution. Unironically.
>>9160
The real scourge is porn, no other vice comes close to its insidious nature and the catastrophic damage it's caused.
>>9159
For the same reason that at a higher scale, both in the Balkans and in Iraq, US forces used depleted uranium for the shells of its tanks because of its density. A totally overkill weapon in this case which was in fact secretly used to radioactively pollute these regions.
What do we have to say to Nationalist's, whom attempt to de-radicalize others? What's best sit here and do nothing? I desperately want to save the White race. De-radicalization of Whites will hamper any progress we can make. We meed more angry White men willing to fight. One coward said to me "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".  Then had the nerve to claim he is 'nee future'. Neu future do nothing.
>>9180
Also another said TKD might have been invented by jews, to make their opponents look unhinged.
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>>9181
>if you hate your enemies, they win
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>>9182
I was called a fed as well. What else is White man suppose to do? Every-time I see a nigger I wanna cut his throat. I want my White country back.
>>9180
>What do we have to say to Nationalist's, whom attempt to de-radicalize others?
"Press your back against the wall, please. Any last words?"
>>9180
Being a nationalist, especially an entho-nationalist will get you called "radical" by systemites anyway. If they claim to be nationalist but want to "de-radicalize" then they are conservatives, not nationalists.
>>9160
Video games in small quantities is fine, like reading fiction, but there is no small quantity of porn that's good enough.
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>>9195
Nationalist porn is fine
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>>9160
Fuck off anti-fun police, mudslime tier behavior is not White.
>>9195
>but there is no small quantity of porn that's good enough
mudslime
>>9196
Yeah, pornos like the polly blitz comics are the real deal. Not to mention orgies, whorehouses and gay clubs were often the meeting places of many White-Nationalist leaning/sympathising people. I met my girlfriend(A former prostitute) at the local druggie's place.
>>9155
Just hadn't logged in in a few days, was busy.
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>>9160
Fuck off, just because you're too retarded to use it as a propaganda tool doesn't mean that they are inherently bad.
Breivik used to train himself by playing Call of Duty thus improving his shooting skills while the NA also put second pic related out.
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Here IS actually one of the most powerful forces holding back Revolution.
It's Conspiracytardation and it overlaps with Derads with how much of an popular activity that it is among them.
But considering that one of the Conspiracyfags here admitted that his hero is WLP while promoting him, perhaps he should listen to him in video related. and take what he has to say because he also promoted Timothy McVeigh conspiracy.
Is grabbing a bag of salt, and salting the whole garden, in front of an apartment a good idea: Specifically done in the city of Seattle? Seems funny.
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>>9224
could be funny
>>9220
Ethnic Cleansing fucking sucked and so do all those "based" games you care to name. Message is not a substitute for quality, and if it's shit quality it will fail as propaganda. Simple as.
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For the past while, I have been working towards starting a new forum website dedicated to fascism/third position. Similar to that of the now gone ironmarch/fascistforge if anyone remembers those. Mainly because I feel like there is a lack of online spaces to actually seriously discuss these things. This place exists and its great for that, although it's pretty niche, and I'd want to create a place that's more active and can bring in a lot more of the newer generation of fascists that are stuck posting in shitholes like twitter. Also, I just much prefer the older style of internet forums compared to imageboards and social media.


So my questions are:


1. How would I attract people to the site in the first place? id shill it here for starters, but after that I'm kinda stumped since it is hard to get anyone to start posting on a site that doesn't have much content or accounts to interact with in the first place.


2. Whats a good name/domain name for the site? I feel kinda retarded for not having that figured out yet.


If anyone has any other general advice or questions let me know. I'll make this its own thread if people here are receptive to the idea.
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>>9227
Speaking of ironmarch though, I am just really fond of how they were able to create a lot of productivity in our movement. The creation and support of irl movements along with creating pdfs and infographics and what not. Lofty goal but I hope the internet community I intend to create can foster such productivity like this.
https://archive.org/search?query=creator%3A%22IronMarch%22&sort=-downloads
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>>9228
named groups are bad, it is leaderless resistance that works better
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>>9227
This is fantastic idea and this is coming from someone whom was in IM-adjacent circle a decade ago and even spoke to Slavros few times. I've been wanting to do this myself as well, but my only obstacle is coding and setting up TOR service for the forum, here is some advice on which you could do:
1: Setting up a TOR/I2P service in general.
2: What will be the art direction, what tools will you be using and how will you get them?
3: Proper vetting procedures.
4: You actually understand your own worldview that your website is supposed to be about.
On #1, I have no idea on what exactly would I need to export such an internet forum to hidden services like TOR. 
2# is easier done than said, The image you posted is created with Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator as I can tell and it depends if you are willing to use slightly sketchy pirated method of acquiring said software (Gen-P and M0nkrus) or if you're willing to pay money to use Adobe products. Slavros used Photoshop from M0nkrus since he is in Russia obviously, but if you are Western European/American and you want to pirate M0nkrus's Photoshop yourself, then feel free to watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9y29Wxo060
There's the free web clone option of Photopea, but pick what you would choose.
On #3, you will need to be careful when you are vetting people in, it is easy to spot and filter out Leftoid/Liberal infiltrators since you can deduce from how they speak, O9A/764 is a different entity to tackle with however so beware.
Check out https://web.archive.org/web/20170606032824/http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/forum/11-introductions/
$4 is self-explanatory.
>>9228
And I have this right here, it's not the full archive of Ironmarch material but it certainly fits for now, enjoy.
https://gofile.io/d/o1XHus
>>9231
Let's not pretend that leaderless resistance works perfectly, all of the groups in that image (with the exception of AWD) are European/Oceanian, the only reason for 'leadership resistance' is for places with the most centralized and strongest System activities like the US. Different strategies for different folks.
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>>9227
Cont.

1. You kinda said it so yourself that the newest generation of fascists are on Xitter so try shilling it there, BUT alternatively you could contact the AF to promote your website.
https://americanfuturist.net/submit-media/ (https://archive.ph/qyJoY)

2. Try "This Struggle" or "Iron Phalanx" or imagine something similar, it's ultimately up to you to choose what name you would like.
Look here for good domain registrars which Null used (and didn't get fucked with):
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/nulls-tier-list-for-internet-services.129513/ (https://archive.ph/CtdoA)
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>>9241
>using Shitter for any reason whatsoever
Are you a fed or just massively retarded?
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I am homeless bit am going to be trajning again soon. I only train live blade. I tis hard trainjjf when ur homeless. Thinking kf being the instructor for National Socislists. I train with machetes live as well. I close my eyes when traininf galf the time
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>>9180
You don't have to say anything to them. Anyone who's serious about doing something will just do it and never speak about it before or after.
>>9254
Damn you look scary as fuck in that video!
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>>9243
What do you propose instead? Surely (You) wouldn't suggest 4cuck as a actual option are you? One of the most aggressive fingerprinting ever to be implemented, Ninety-nine percent bots and shills. Bans VPNs and NO Onion service at all.
Shitter has an actual TOR service at least unlike 4cuck.
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>>9258
You could always recruit locally among people you know personally nd have a good read on, instead of using a publicly available social network that has been exposed time and time again for farming its users' personal information and collaborating with glowniggers. Just a thought.
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>>9256
I'm Native and 1/4 White. I'd say download sayoc kali videos. I trained petiki tirsia kali.
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>>9264
Said I'm Native because a feather nigger jacked me earlier. My White blood makes me smarter and I should of stayed away from the native centre.  I'd recommend going to sayoc.org
>>9235
Your enthusiasm is commendable but you're dooming yourself to failure for the simple reason you're focusing on picking a cool logo, slogans and making online spaces to get together with the boys and talk about Fascism, etc.; rather than the stuff that actually matters, which is setting up operational doctrine, laying down opsec parameters, acquisition of useful tools, materials and weapons, training of skills useful in a military situation, and so on.
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>>9227
More spaces is always good keep us updated chad
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>>9227
>>9267
Is it? We are split across multiple spaces now. I'm not trying to shit on this idea, but I wonder what a new site would add to our struggle.
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>>9273
Unless it was in another obscure langauve and there was a need.
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>>9266
You're implying these are mutually exclusive, these things naturally occur on their own, because the actual forum long time ago already disproved your argument.
t. lurked IM before it ever went down.
And beauty is everything, beautiful propaganda attracts more radicals than before, consider how you came into Fascism in the first place if not for the clean, professional militant appearance?
Brotip: Add a script to your site that makes it unusable if you have Javascript installed.
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>>9276
Also don't tell anyone. Let your fellow Fascists learn on their own to leave Javascript off unless strictly needed.
>>9196
>[insert variant] porn is fine
No. If you long for some kind of visual representation of women, only accept the erotic material.
But I wouldn't expect a current human to know the difference.
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grab the vid
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I joined a the telegram chat of a prominent WN podcast crew and it felt like a competition to be the biggest asshole in there. I can sort of understand why any normal person stopped participating in the e-right years ago. It's fucking AIDS and can only lead to burnout. I only care about tribe and training irl anymore
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>>9299
Nick Fuentes encourages a kind of absolute asshole behavior among his followers. It's actually very homosexual if you think about it.
If you admit that you're poor, instead of helping with mere advice, they mock you for it. It's typical faggot behavior. Yet somehow it's become ubiquitous in our culture.

Men complain that women have better support networks than men. That's true. So be kind to your fellow man. Stop trying to tear him down to make yourself feel superior. People complain that niggers, jews, and spics have better support networks than White people. That's true. So stop trying to tear other White men down. That's nigger behavior.
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>>9300
It wasn't even Fuentes, it was Achtung Amerikaner. These guys present themselves as normal Midwesterners but they're all autistic fatsos and blankets LARPing as revolutionary propagandists. It's really sad. The only good thing they do is platform people who actually change shit
>>9297
That figure given at the end of the video is nuts. I have a hard time believing it and it would be a good thing to know if it's sourced. I am not aware of how far race related statistics are produced in Europe but if that number is real then it's not even just grim, it's simply for all intents and purposes over. Over as Belgium is lost. I'll be cautious with this because again it sounds way too crazy, perhaps it's not the whole of Belgium but just one single county or city and the author just messed up, which although distressing, would still help putting this into perspective. I understand that it is a small country though so it's easier to ruin it entirely and that fast when a given policy is applied wholesale to an entire territory of such a modest size.
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>>9299
Not wanting to sound like a leftist but would you say that they are nurturing a toxic culture on purpose? That's quite cultish, it keeps the unclean out while helping break people when inside because everyone must be a piece of absolute shit to his peers so that it maintains an internal level of distrust.
I think most right wing movements devolved into personality cults even before the Internet, but not being accountable to people irl definitely makes it easier to be a dick to them for no reason. The webcomic Penny Arcade called this the "greater Internet fuckwad theory"

I want to contribute to the movement so bad but I have no idea what to do other than write online, which no one will probably read thanks the the censorship these days. There are no active clubs in my state, patriot front is dying, and everything else is rural. There's really nothing for city-bound right-wingers to do in this country except moneymaxx and take care of themselves. Maybe donate to the few worthwhile projects that do exist, or try to buy some land in Whitopia.

It's just weird that the best way of doing politics ironically seems to be not doing politics at all, at least above the local level. Fuentes was right
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>>9306
The statistic is from Brussels alone, and White Europeans count into that 84% figure of "non-Belgian. Even European half Belgians, as in Belgian mother French/Italian/German father.
If you narrow it down to non-Whites, it's more like
<35% of under 18s in Brussels are non-White.
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>>9320
You can take direct action. Don't listen to Spic Fuentes. You sit there talking about joining politicians. You can literally kill kikes. High level politicians families sit there, well their husband or wife, goes to Washington, that's your time to strike. Get a 3d printer and kill kikes and White race traitors. Destroy infrastructure. Total societal collapse is our objective.. Than we rebuild after. This is the way. As a futurist. This is the path of a neu future fascist. Burnt ground is our new idealogy. None of this quoting or listening to Fuentes. Become a White jihadist. That symbol I drew is my guiding light.
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>>9322
Joining politics* I would recommend downloading all of AWD's pdfs; very comprehensive. Become a freedom fighter. You will have to get used to the idea, of killing kikes and race traitors. Kill their children as well, In minecraft that is.
They want to eliminate ours as well. They have made this apparent with the Kelargi plan. In order for White man to win this war. You have to be willing to eliminate a kikes family, so when he comes home from the synagogue. He cannot believe his eyes, and wants to commit suicide. His child is dead, his mother was slain. His whole family is literally extinct. You can burn the bodies after. Enough of this 'political solution' none-sense. Hitler was able to become chancellor, than Fuhrer. Because Germany was still White. America is brown. We are not to become politicians, or even create  a National Socialist party of America. We are to destroy, eliminate. Execute. Then the next generation can build. You have to understand this, if you actually intend to save the White race. Otherwise you are wasting your time and energy. Blow up a courthouse. Shoot it up. Kill a judge even. Shoot his family to death. Write a swastika in blood on their walls. Our terror shall be encompassing. There will be no where for these faggots to hide. Take this approach, then White children shall have a future. Sieg heil!
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>>9323
What's the weather like in Langley? I didn't read your post btw
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>>9324
Fuck off pussy.
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>>9325
Keyboard warrior. I hope you get raped by niggers in prison, and that's assuming you ever do anything you fucking faggot
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>>9329
go protest or something. Act like that does anything.
>>9324
He's right, opticuck faggot.
Voote harder. the zionist controlled opposition will totally save us, right?
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>>9337
No no guise, guise, join Patriot Front today and go on marches and put up fliers and do nothing else for years! That's totally gonna save the white race!
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>>9338
I'd prefer if they marched to a synagogue and burnt it down to a crisp. I bet that person trying to de-radicalize is a PF guy.
The rest of you Atomfaggots should convert to Islam like your buddy and blow yourselves up. It would suit you better than doing something that actually benefits whites
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>>9343
Vooooooote harder retarded faggot
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>>9345
Agreed. If all of us don't take direct action. White people will have to hide away, far away from society and live in caves. All the muds and niggers, have already made it clear. White man has been wiped out before I believe. Cannot let this line of Whites die off. Whites are the last noble race. I keep telling these faggot's burnt ground is our new ideology.
The reason that calls to violence are stupid LARP is we have no organization to sustain it or take advantage of the power vacuum which would result even if we had 50,000 perfectly distributed rebels who all knew exactly when and were to strike which is already an unprecedented miracle to achieve.

Without organization, even if it's only glorified social clubs, then miraculously eliminating the ruling class would only lead to some other band of jews taking over. The entire scenario is just silly in the extreme. It's magical thinking by autists who either cannot fathom the level of coordination it would take or have given up on coordination because they can't understand interpersonal relationships and cannot envision cooperating with anyone.
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>>9349
You do not know what you're talking about. It took a few thousand communists under Trotsky and his comrades to eat at a weaken Russian nobility and seize Moscow.
We obviously need to have a plan and assuming we go that far and succeed in our urban coup, we have to put men in control of all the medias ASAP, into the banks too, and make sure the army and the police are now under severe control or at least sufficiently disorganized or neutralized to be manageable until they're taken over by going for the leaders, most of whom are traitors anyway. Wait for a short week for things to settle and try to make things look nice to people, but then proceed with purges as fast and violently as possible within the next two weeks. Nearly all politicians, journalists, judges, top staff for governmental offices and major private companies. For example you'd have to behead the libs and faggots at Apple and Amazon.
50,000 men would be a fabulously large force for a coup in most White nations mate.
In the United States you may seize one medium state and its city plus satellite smaller states in the East and some significant lands in top Midwest where the population density is so low that it would be a clean victory. We would gather a lot of support here and assuming you'd be not wasting time, the US ZOG would have no choice but attempt something like an immediate armed response, which would trigger a civil war and help bring the country down, or at least weaken it enough so that it could not project its forces internationally anymore. Yeah, you wish we had that many combat ready fit and ready in any major White nation.
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>>9321
>35% of under 18s in Brussels are non-White.
Okay. Well, it reminds me of the crazy statistics I once read about, wait, I think it was London, or maybe Paris? I can't be sure because these are territories where such data is totally censored by the jews IIRC. It was like half of the people being given birth in that wider urban area were of non-white origin, whether these people were mixed or not. All in all it gives the feeling that some cities are simply lost. I'm not seeing any revolution happening tomorrow so those trends will keep going on for the worse.
>>9349
>inb4 this faggot shills for cucktriot front for the millionth time
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Patriot Front sucks. It will never seize power, and probably fizzle after the 2028 election cycle. However, it seems like the only way to meet based people in the US right now aside from sheer chance. I don't go to churches because I hate Christians. And a lot of active clubs are secretly controlled by Patriot Front anyway

Gatekeeping white nationalism behind seejtardery is the easiest way to ensure well-adjusted people never join the movement, and trust me, we have enough antisocial types as it is
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There's been some retweeting going on about a recent "big" event in France, some Patriot Front like movement that even had people from other groups. Is there any better information on this? Is this jews infiltrating these movements and letting some pressure off to keep most people voting?
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>>9355
This is not a "white nationalism" board, this is the Fascist/NS board.
You have more in common with liberals and communists than with us.
But then again you wouldn't be a PF shill in the first place if you actually understood our worldview at all.
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>>9224
Dealing with evil spirits or something?
>>9367
It is logical that there would be a strong liberal form of White Nationalism but I think it reeks off of too much libertarianism, an overall fuzzy grouping of ideas that more or less advocate for moving back a few steps, said steps measured in half centuries. The liberalism itself implies a certain amount of weakness.
Usually, a free White America from the 19th then put on better rails. Americans have a cultural aversion to statism. But we can also easily forget that an excess of control and law is not only not necessary but also poisonous and the traits of tyranny. We are so badly educated about Italian Fascism that we fail to properly understand how it was organized and what it required from people, organizations and companies. Usually we tend to assume the worst, that it was overbearing when in truth it was rather weak as for one thing, it failed to purge all the traitors because it believed quite naively that the sanctimonious purity of its superior ideals would convert everyone to its cause, even its staunchest enemies.
The comparison to communism on the other hand is really a stretch and perhaps one should not forget whence Mussolini himself came. As for the NSDAP sometimes, if you didn't pay attention and ran with half truths, it superficially seemed so close to communism that trolling journalists wouldn't hesitate to pester Goebbels about it. But as I said, it was superficial and argued in bad faith by the opposition. Therefore, I'm failing to understand why you try to make that kind of comparison.
You say this board is not one of White Nationalism but I disagree, it's been that way for a long time now and I think Orlog himself put it that way. We use would we find in a fascism that is not oriented towards the protection of our people? Of the nation as a people, the White people?
I have also listened to Zeiger's speech and I agree, White Nationalism as is for now seems to have been coopted to put us in a similar feminine mindset of constantly a victimhood status, so we're all engaged in the same race with Jews, with blacks, with feminists, with homosexuals, with transsexuals, etc. Even Christians try from time to time to prop up the martyrdom narrative. While it is useful to an extent to remind our people that we too are under constant assault and we are not allowed to even discuss it or complain about it, it should not lead us to seek recognition from the system as another oppressed group. If only for the fact that we will never get the full extent of that status anyway. A fight against racism, no matter the colour nor whence it comes, is of no use to us. It is in fact a good thing that non-Whites are racist. It's only only healthy but it helps us in maintaining a separation but us and them. We would be in a far worst situation if they wanted to merge with us with abandon. Now Zeiger talks about Stromfront. This website is but a shadow of itself. VNN is the place that we should talk about if we think of a forum. Linder pretty much agrees that action, thus violence, is the way. And as he said himself, the only way is through the Jew.

Now let me quote David E. Lane.
>37th Precept
>That race whose males will not fight to death to keep and mate with their females will perish. Any White man with healthy instincts feels disgust and revulsion when he sees a woman of his race with a man of another race. Those, who today control the media and affairs of the Western World, teach that this is wrong and shameful. They label it “racism.” As any “ism,” for instance the word “nationalism,” means to promote one’s own nation; “racism” merely means to promote and protect the life of one’s own race. It is, perhaps, the proudest word in existence. Any man who disobey these instincts is anti-Nature.

>The second-guessers feel they are qualified to criticize Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich. They should be aware that the leaders of the Reich were prisoners of geographical nationalism. Germany had been raped by the Versailles Treaty; anti-Polish and anti- French feelings were unavoidable. The two-front war was, also, unavoidable, since the Soviets were amassing millions of troops for a sneak attack on Germany. In the final analysis the Teutonic people of central Europe, now called Germans, were simply performing their ancient role as defenders of the White race in our European homeland.
>Against overwhelming odds of 10:1 in population, 100's to one in land area and 1,000's to one in resources, they were magnificent!

>What about a voting pool today if someone thinks it is possible to vote for White territories or states? First remove from the possible converts all who have someone in their family who has already mated with coloreds. The vast majority of White families have a sister, daughter, son, aunt, cousin, or whatever, mated to a non-White. They will usually support the interest of the mixed-race offspring over racial survival.
>But, let us assume optimistically that 10% of the population has no family members who have mixed. From that 10% we must cull perhaps half who are under the thrall of Judeo-Christianity and its race-mixing fanatics, like the Pope, like Jerry Falwell, like Pat Robertson. At least 99.99% of all who call themselves Christian deny their own race with fanatical passion. This leaves a pool of perhaps 5% from which to draw recruits. But from that 5% we must cull virtually all so-called "educators," virtually all who are wealthy, government employees, federal agents, politicians, lawyers, bankers, most of the military, cowards, fence-sitters, the greedy, the ignoble, the druggies, the drunks, the media whores, social workers, virtually all who draw checks from the government and all levels of police. Now you see why it is so hard to recruit large numbers into our alleged movement. As always, forever and always, revolutions come from the totally disenfranchised. In this age the disenfranchised are almost exclusively young, White males.

>From the facts alone one might be forgiven for concluding that there is no hope. But, that is not the case. However, we must consider our resources when formulating a plan. And we must fight smart, that is, cunning. Much of the literature disseminated within the "movement" over the last few decades calls for courage and heroism. That is fine if combined with wisdom and cunning. Unfortunately, our "leaders" have been prone to sending young, idealistic men off to be cannon fodder. A wise man does not paint a target (swastika) on his chest and dare the government to react.

>In the eyes of the system we are already criminals, simply because we resist genocide. In truth, the criminal system which rules over us is fueled by money. Let us not abandon the life line of all movements simply because the pursuit of money is the joy of Judah. Sometimes war is action other than guns or swords. In World War II Aryans killed Aryans, and Jews with money conquered the world. Materialism in the heart is not Aryan, but money is the gasoline for the engines of war. Dirty hands and a pure heart are not mutually exclusive. Victory goes to the cunning first, then to the brave.
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> It took a few thousand communists under Trotsky and his comrades to eat at a weaken Russian nobility and seize Moscow.
Yes. Impressive organization. You forgot to mention the many thousands more in the military, bureaucracy, in industrial zones, and out in the critical areas of the country all working for the same goal. Organization is strength.

>We obviously need to have a plan and assuming we go that far and succeed in our urban coup, we have to put men in control of all the medias ASAP, into the banks too, and make sure the army and the police are now under severe control or at least sufficiently disorganized or neutralized to be manageable until they're taken over by going for the leaders, most of whom are traitors anyway. 
Allow me to analyze this sentence.
>We
There is no "we" at the moment. There is only atomized individuals who argue with each other on the internet. Such a "we" cannot decide anything or do anything or accomplish anything. We need organization, like the communists had.
>We ...need to X, Y, & Z
This is always as far as "planning" gets due to our total lack of organization and power. Random, atomized individuals talking about the magical "We" that accomplishes things. That we is organized White men. Yes, like Patriot Front, who have done more for White people in a week than >>9353 and >>9355 have done their entire lives.
>...to have a plan...
Random atomized individuals have no plans. YOU might have a plan. But so long as we remain weak and disorganized, with no leaders and no units, there are no plans. Just suggestions that always fail to accomplish a single thing because ALL plans worth doing require many men working together.
>we... succeed in our urban coup
Random complainers terminally online will never stage any kind of coup. You need to appreciate that you are so weak right now, you are weaker than women. Literally, women have far more organizations than you do. There are almost ZERO pro-White organizations and as a result, we have zero rights and zero power.
Want to stage a coup? We need organization first.
Also, urban coup? What does that even mean? Marching into a city, even Washington DC, would not lead to a pro-White government. It'd be awesome, but we would need actual, real, non fictitious pro-White organizations that actually do things in the real world to seize political control across many institutions. 
>we have to put men in control of all the medias ASAP
Organization. Needed.
> make sure the army and the police are now under severe control
Another thing requiring White men to be organized.

In conclusion: What I said was correct. Organization is needed to achieve anything. Organization is needed to avoid racial extermination. Every other race is organized. Even faggots, trannies, and furries are organized. There is only one group on planet earth that refused to get organized: White people.
And it is not entirely the jews fault. It is our fault. Because we are riddled with retards who call everyone a fed or insist that all political organization is counter-revolutionary, whilst sitting on their ass doing nothing.
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>>9372
It's good that you quote David Lane, but you had missed his first and most important part. That which he ever said:
1. Any religion or teaching which denies the Natural Laws of the Universe is false.
Racialism divorced from Fascism will not save you,  you are simply returning to an time and standard where everyone simply just didn't believe niggers were even human at all. Look up the White Australia Policy and the statements by Canadian MP Boulay condemning the migration of kikes, chinks and pajeets. See how it all ended by time because Liberalism is not meant to be Racialist at all.
Liberalism is not bad because it lets niggers in, it is bad because of ITSELF. It is FALSE and precisely what is false will doom us all to oblivion. There is no salvation outside Absolute Truth. Everything else is entropy.

"White Nationalism" as the American phenomenon only acknowledges racial-Truth while completely disregarding everything (starting from Absolute-Truth, societal Truth, familial Truth, biological-sexual Truth, personal Truth), it's why Zeiger called it "Liberalism with Racialism added".
So how did this "strong liberal form of White Nationalism" ended up like a deflated balloon when pressure is applied to it from our enemies?
>Usually, a free White America from the 19th then put on better rails. Americans have a cultural aversion to statism. But we can also easily forget that an excess of control and law is not only not necessary but also poisonous and the traits of tyranny. 
COVID-19 put that to the test and it turns out millions of your supposed "statist-averse" Americans actually don't mind doing what the State tells them to do. Your average person isn't the "Rational Actor" you think they are, they are still mammals operating on the laws of biology. Look up Milgram experiment and Joe versus Elan School and you will see why Dr. Pierce hypothesized the Lemming Condition. The problem is not the method or what you would call "excess of control and law". It's what the Enemy believes in and what makes them so dangerous not just for our race but for all of Nature itself.
It's not the guns themselves being the problem, it's the people behind that are pulling the trigger on them as to speak.
>We are so badly educated about Italian Fascism that we fail to properly understand how it was organized and what it required from people, organizations and companies. Usually we tend to assume the worst, that it was overbearing when in truth it was rather weak as for one thing, it failed to purge all the traitors because it believed quite naively that the sanctimonious purity of its superior ideals would convert everyone to its cause, even its staunchest enemies.
I would agree that you are under-educated on the whole subject, however this is not due to failure from the Worldview, but rather the character of the leader and his insufficient understanding of said Worldview which reflects on his own policies. It was a gradutal process for Mussolini and he already viewed race-mixing between Italians and Ethiopian niggers as evil, no doubt he would come to the conclusion of Total Kike Death if Germany won WW2.
>The comparison to communism on the other hand is really a stretch and perhaps one should not forget whence Mussolini himself came.
The difference is that Mussolini actually came to the conclusion that what he believed in ultimately did not line up with Truth, so he discarded all Liberal and Marxist notions of his previous mental conditioning and adapted it to fit his new Worldview. The "White Nationalists" go the other way around and they'll try to chop and change National Socialism to fit what they already believe in.
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>if you didn't pay attention and ran with half truths, it superficially seemed so close to communism that trolling journalists wouldn't hesitate to pester Goebbels about it. But as I said, it was superficial and argued in bad faith by the opposition. Therefore, I'm failing to understand why you try to make that kind of comparison.
Superficially sharing the appearance close enough to communism /=/ sharing it's core. The comparison of WN and Communism is not because of secondary economics like planned economy, it is in fact Total, Stateless, Classless Equality that is the essence of Communism.
Many WNs promote exactly that but for White People™ only. They just wouldn't admit it openly.
If you were around back an decade ago, you would remember people like Richard 'Dickie' Spencer, being the poster-boy for most American WNs. He is exactly the classical Derad mocked on here. He promoted feminism, "Implicit" faggotry and sodomy and even Judaism while attacking particularist ethno-nationalists in favor of mystery-mutt pan-European racial egalitarianism. It's even funnier that due to his wife, he was in circles with Nazbols and Duginists which only validates the comparison and makes it into the most literal sense.
>You say this board is not one of White Nationalism but I disagree, it's been that way for a long time now and I think Orlog himself put it that way.
The existence of "White Nationalism" contradicts National Socialism/Fascism's total monopoly over any 'racialist' outlook and being their ultimate logical conclusion. The only reason it exists is confusion and so that it makes it easier for various people with certain agendas to subvert and make NS bend to their agendas, not theirs to NS.
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>What use would we find in a fascism that is not oriented towards the protection of our people? Of the nation as a people, the White people?
What use would we find in extremely-vague and ill-defined "racialist" unifier that would instantly dissolve soon as more people put more critical thought onto what exactly happens after their end-goal is finalized?
Read on what Hitler had to say on pic related.
And besides, you don't need "White Nationalism", you already have American Futurism which stands in respect to their forefathers and acquaintances and being more detailed and principled to prevent all the endless debates about if niggers, faggots and kikes are good enough or not.
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>>9374
>You forgot to mention the many thousands more in the military, bureaucracy, in industrial zones, and out in the critical areas of the country all working for the same goal. Organization is strength.
They were as many on the other side, so they balanced each other out. It's Trotsky's men who did the difference when Russia was plunged into chaos. They had a clear plan when the others had none. They were prepared (althoug they almost missed the mark), the others improvised a reaction.
Most of your post is a reply to a point I never made, that we would supposedly already have a well rounded organization already in a state of being capable of fighting at any moment now. I wouldn't even see the point of pretending we could achieve anything without organized forces. What we must accept is that our task will be far more difficult than it was for the whole far-right of 1920 in Germany, because contrary to the Germans and their newfound leader who was paid by the army to deliver anti-communist speeches, we don't have much support and certainly nothing coming from the government. There will be a certain quantity of Whites more or less in agreement with us but they will never be able to reach the highest levels without a coup.
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I'm too drunk and it's too late here in Yurop to write a proper critic in response, but you, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.
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>>9377
I happen to be something of an expert on Dickie.
>If you were around back an decade ago, you would remember people like Richard 'Dickie' Spencer, being the poster-boy for most American WNs. He is exactly the classical Derad mocked on here. He promoted feminism, "Implicit" faggotry and sodomy and even Judaism while attacking particularist ethno-nationalists in favor of mystery-mutt pan-European racial egalitarianism. It's even funnier that due to his wife, he was in circles with Nazbols and Duginists which only validates the comparison and makes it into the most literal sense.
First of all, Spencer only began promoting feminism and sodomy in late 2019 when his lawyer for the Charlottesville trial abandoned him for lack of payment and it then became clear to Spencer that he was going to lose the trial and be found liable for organizing the rally, and he certainly was objectively responsible for that. He consistently advertised and promoted the Charlottesville rally. Nevertheless, he could not accept his own accountability so he scapegoated the little army he had been building since 2010 by throwing them all under the "incel" bus. This was not a cheap legal trick, this was a deep psychological mental complex that hit him. Ever since then he has been obsessed with incels, associates all  far-right activity of any kind with inceldom, and build his "Apollonian" religion as essentially an anti-incel Satanist inside-joke for those who still hug his nuts. 
Spencer was almost certainly a Russian intelligence asset as far back as 2010. He had multiple appearances on RT. However, none of that really has any bearing on his post-2019 incel obsession. All of that comes from Charlottesville and he supports Ukraine not for Ukraine but because he portrays ZOG/Israel as eugenic force that will kill off whites. For Spencer, the fewer whites, the better. He is essentially a spiteful mutant gone insane and as such is functionally anti-white. His guilty verdict at the trial literally broke his mind and he is now psychologically incapable of objectivity. Everything is based on resentment of his former followers and associates.
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>>9381
>His guilty verdict at the trial literally broke his mind and he is now psychologically incapable of objectivity. Everything is based on resentment of his former followers and associates.

All that huff and puff, and he crumbled at the first real threat, whereas many revolutionaries (of all stripes) would consider a prison sentence a revolutionary's baptism.
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>>9382
>whereas many revolutionaries (of all stripes) would consider a prison sentence a revolutionary's baptism.
It's a bad mentality to have in current year, however. At least for any modern-day Fascist.
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>It's a bad mentality to have in current year, however.
Infinitely better than being a narcissistic, spineless faggot like Dickie Spencer.

Who is his successor, btw, Nicholas Fuentes? He seems smarter than Dickie, I'll give him that, but somehow I doubt his ability to withstand pressure when feds threaten him for real.
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>>9386
You're not understanding me. It's bad from an operational standpoint because there's so few of us, each one that goes to prison or dies is lost. A fascist in prison is a fascist that can't do anything and is out of play. It's bad from a motivational standpoint because guys thinking they'll get street cred or whatever for going to the pen will get a rude awakening when they get shoved into genpop with Jamal, Paco and all their merry friends. Or if they're deemed an actual threat by the System, they'll be subjected to all sorts of torture to make them flip and give away everything they know, which will endanger any other Fascists out there. Even if the worst doesn't happen and they just spend a few months' stretch in a cell, they're a known quantity and likely they will be put under surveilance, which will complicate future operations. To put it bluntly, a Fascist going to prison constitutes a failure for him and for the cause, it's not a source of bragging rights. It's nothing to aspire to. 

>Oh, but it won't be that bad because bla bla bla
How the fuck do you know that? Why would you ever assume "it won't be so bad"? Why are you banking on the best case scenario happening to you? This isn't a fucking game, it's a fight for our very survival as a race. Anyone who wants to pick up the Fascist cause has to act accordingly. Don't. Get. Caught.

>Spencer
Either he was a grifter from the beginning, or an intelligence asset all along. Doesn't matter, he deserves to die either way.

>Fuentes
Who cares? He's a homosexual mutt and a grifter. He deserves to die.
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>>9387
Yet if you cuck, you lose as well. 
>>9386
Who is his successor, Nicholas Fuentes?
Yes, that is how history played out. Dickie humorously went crawling back to Fuentes in 2023 to try and catfish some of Nick's underage followers after threatening to beat Fuentes in a drunken rant in 2018. 

One thing I learned after eons in "the movement" is that you can never trust a bourgeois, which constitutes the social class of 99% of these shitty e-celebs.
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>>9388
You can trust the disenfranchised White male. Poor and unemployable. Trust those whom have dropped, out of the system irrevocably. Why would we trust those in a better situation, where their finances and their lives are a complete, juxtaposition to ours is insane. Breaks under pressure and becomes a turn coat. I went to prison before, I dislike what an earlier poster said about prison. It is to be avoided st all costs.
>9388
>Yet if you cuck, you lose as well. 
That's why you don't get caught. If you don't get caught, you won't be interrogated and you won't have to cuck out. DON'T GET CAUGHT.

>>9389
This man gets it. The big challenge is that without a sense of racial camaradeire, without a strong espirit de corps, the average White man only has his material belongings and maybe his family in his soul. The average middle class White is too comfortable with the status quo to even challenge it. Doesn't matter if the niggers riot every day, doesn't matter if used heroin needles crunch underfoot every time they walk down the dilapidated trash-strewn streets, doesn't matter that politicians and academics are openly advocating for their disenfranchisement and extermination. As long as they have their cookie cutter suburban home, their car, their business, their beer, their beer, their sportsball, they will not do a single thing. They're simply too afraid of losing their creature comforts to ever act, even in defense of their very lives.

Fuck's sake, you'll be surprised just how many otherwise smart, moral, level-headed people would rather let a nigger mug them or break into their homes and cross their fingers the nigger won't rape or kill them on a whim because they're just that afraid of getting in trouble with the law (and thus losing their creature comforts) for the crime of defending their lives and the lives of their families. Don't ever believe this only happens in blue states or no-guns countries. And contrary to the common belief, blue-collar Whites are usually no better. They're too preoccupied with holding on to what little they still have that they will refuse to act and buy into any desperate self-delusion that this or that politician will fix everything to lift a finger in defense of their own, let alone something as abstract (to them) as "the White Race".

That's why mass-appeal recruitment drives and big-tent politics are doomed to failure, because it doesn't matter if you recruit ten thousand men when not a single one of them will do anything besides token gestures like handing out flyers or going on marches. And don't get me started on party politics and elections. It's magical thinking and "let someone else do it" with extra steps. 

It's as >>9389 said, and many of our predecessors (Commander Rockwell, Dr. Pierce, James Mason, even Hitler himself) were all in agreement. When you're part of a marginalized, despised, disenfranchised minority that those in power hate and want to destroy, you go and recruit those who are completely alienated by the system. A thousand fat soft-bellied boomers will never do fucking shit, nor will a thousand affluent middle-class weekend fascists with tiki torches, but a guy who refuses to play into the Jewish hamster wheel that is our work-taxes cycle and refuses to buy into the suffocating banality and pointlessness of modern life is someone that will follow you into Hell itself.
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>>9379
>They were as many on the other side, so they balanced each other out.
>They had a clear plan when the others had none. 
Yes.

>Most of your post is a reply to a point I never made
I apologize. You said that I was wrong but the central premise of most of my posts is that we need to organize and do it quickly before we are a minority.

>There will be a certain quantity of Whites more or less in agreement with us but they will never be able to reach the highest levels without a coup.
According to a poll taken in 2017, about 10% of Americans "support alt-right positions"
We may presume that this is virtually entirely White while the sample size is not (if it was, they would have specified this), so the actual number is 20%.
If this is even close to accurate, far more White men would join us if they saw us as strong. The issue is that we appear and are weak. 
As for a coup, I suspect that the percentage of generals with "alt-right views" is about 0% so if we do seize power, it will need to be via a revolution, not a coup. We're in a position where our views are popular among the masses (especially when separated from symbols of 1940s Germany and presented as-is. We all know this is true whether we like it or not) but virtually absent among the nobility. Jews and rich goyim. Even communists had support from the upper echelons of the Russian aristocracy. We have none.
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>>9388
https://www.bitchute.com/video/phMZhuYGnp2F/
Relevant Dr. Pierce words on the subject.
>>9396
>According to a poll taken in 2017, about 10% of Americans "support alt-right positions"
The number is already low, but when we consider what the alt-right is how it's been largely railroaded into fighting for racial blindness, in the end it's all pathetic.
>We may presume that this is virtually entirely White while the sample size is not (if it was, they would have specified this), so the actual number is 20%.
You arbitrarily bump this to 20% from where I stand. What is your detailed logic behind this ripe claim?
>If this is even close to accurate, far more White men would join us if they saw us as strong. The issue is that we appear and are weak.
Yup. I know how our situation is shitty and Lane made it clear more than twenty years ago already.
I honestly do not know how to trigger racial instincts in people. The jewish spell is strong. We are missing something, I will keep looking for the key to unlock this mystery.
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>>9376
>It's good that you quote David Lane, but you had missed his first and most important part. 
The 37th Precept formerly cited already strongly and clearly established the importance of race and racism and obviously implied that nationalism isn't enough since it merely covers the interest of a nation, which within this context would not be a strong enough definition without precisely the racial element. The same Precept even reminds what stands against Nature. You should read is again and pay more attention.
>See how it all ended by time because Liberalism is not meant to be Racialist at all.
I don't even know where you're going with this because it would really be a laughably broken appreciation of the man's works to think that a liberal would ever positively cite Lane. He has always supported a revolution, first of the mind, then action.
I also had another quotation in mind but I couldn't find it.
>COVID-19 put that to the test and it turns out millions of your supposed "statist-averse" Americans actually don't mind doing what the State tells them to do. 
Sheeple will be sheeple. News at 11.  Let's forget the people who hated this but had to cave in, and those who managed to avoid the clot shot. This changes nothing to the fact that at large the major figures of American White Nationalism often sneer at socialism and fascism, largely because these were the enemies of America during the second world war and it tainted everything. These people landed into White Nationalism through the door of American conservatism, and that's being generous when not assuming they're controlled opposition. I'd even assert that most pro-White Americans who would rather see the entire government disintegrate into many pieces if push came to shove, then allowing them to be racist and dicking around at the county level, than turn into a true pro-White fascist apparatus encompassing most of today's USA.
Fascism only thrives in countries that have a historical culture of very strong centralized regimes that almost resound like variants of past monarchies without however becoming true ones because the focus is on the state and doesn't derive (much) from family oriented struggles for power. It's a hard sell to American Whites. Aside from their provocative Hitler posts every once in a while, I don't know what most of them really want. If you were to look at /pol/ for the last ten years, it's not indicative of more radicalized people even wishing for fascism. They almost never give a fuck about Mussolini.
>>9377
You're explaining communism, not legitimizing the bizarre equivalency you made. Say what you wish of White Nationalism in America but it's certainly not communism because it acknowledges and defends both the racial reality and the private property, both of which are denied by communism. It certainly doesn't suffice, but at least on these two points there is no disagreement possible.
When I speak of this board being WN I mean the right version of WN, the complete one that has a radical take on politics and economy and eschews liberal positions.
You also attack WN but you seem to forget that it's been infiltrated and veered off course on purpose. The same could happen with fascism, and no later than tomorrow some Jews could begin promoting their own version that puts obedience to Jews above anything else curtailing any attempt at injecting White racialism into this modern American fascism. A radical civic nationalism in other words, with a slightly renewed American economy and a sufficient reduction of the freeloading portion of the population to keep the ball rolling long enough in America, even if in a dimmed manner all things considered, while Europe sinks into a brown sea. I believe there even is a Trump contingency plan that includes such a shift. One could argue that these first steps have already been made visible, with the patriotic good nigger, the good latrino, etc.
>Spencer
For all intents and purposes, a duplicitous agent.
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>>9385
The less inmates on our side the better. Prison neutralizes us and in certain cases can turn into a trap with lengthening sentences and increased lethality.
The stakes are too high for us contrary to beaners and niggers who won't lose much going behind the bars for a while.

>>9386
>Infinitely better than being a narcissistic, spineless faggot like Dickie Spencer.
It's like saying that salted shit tastes better than shit cut with brick and plastic. Come on, Dick Sponsor isn't even worth a comparison.
>Nicholas Fuentes
Degenerate as far as I know. He grows his little cult and is not serious in the slightest. He likes to be super provocative on stupid specific topics.

>>9389
>You can trust the disenfranchised White male. Poor and unemployable. 
Not necessarily since they can be in need of money and may accept anything. People who have something to lose and are seeing being in risk of losing it no matter what could better understand why there is a need to fight. A disenfranchised man for example may have been so poor as to never get a wife and have no offspring. Yet in ancient times, notably in Greece, it's the men who had a family who were picked for the battle ranks because they precisely had something to lose, especially if they didn't make it. It proved to be very motivating and made them better fighters. This is why the doom posting should be a core part of the propaganda, to show that if nothing is done, the house will be plundered and burn, the wife and daughter will be raped, the business will close or be destroyed, that there is no possible decent humane life possible in the future conditions. The propaganda really needs to push the grim future prediction to eleven and hammer the point. Literally Hell on Earth. Then we present ourselves as the only available saviors because we know the truth, we know the enemy, we know the true cause and only under such conditions an efficient and useful war can be waged. Politicians don't do this because they don't want to scare the voters, but it's fear that all these people need to experience. A complete existential dread.

>>9390
>The average middle class White is too comfortable with the status quo to even challenge it.
I wouldn't go that far. There's some comfort left to them yes but there's a growing disgust with the current situation that's palpable. I also doubt that the Whites seen marching in the US or Europe are all disenfranchised. You can have a good way of life but see that your environment which you depend on keeps getting worse and that even doing business sanely becomes impossible, and if you're smart enough you will want to know why.
>That's why mass-appeal recruitment drives and big-tent politics are doomed to failure, because it doesn't matter if you recruit ten thousand men when not a single one of them will do anything besides token gestures like handing out flyers or going on marches. 
You are incorrect. The mass appeal has two functions: to allow us to present a wider and more convincing united front that will attract the gregarious minds, and to incentivize such people to fund the movement with any money they want to put in it, even if it's by merely buying merchandising. This money will be used to sustain the more radical forces. Meanwhile our ideas will propagate through these people and always manage to reach the more interesting candidates.
There's a room for everyone, we need to adapt our offer to each class.
>a guy who refuses to play into the Jewish hamster wheel that is our work-taxes cycle and refuses to buy into the suffocating banality and pointlessness of modern life is someone that will follow you into Hell itself.
Agreed. If you wrap this with a flair of perennial end-of-times spirituality it's even better, as it gives us a sense of belonging to an even greater cause, we become illuminated radicals.
However, once this core is secured, something will have to be done to increase the size and introduce the perhaps softer elements to a context of culture of combat and training. At least all of our members should get a solid experience in firearm usage and anything that helps creating a very dynamic and responsive pseudo network of cells that can quickly regroup when a member is threatened.
>>9399
You only say that because you're a purist. But purists never accomplish anything because history and the real world is dirty.

>You arbitrarily bump this to 20% from where I stand.
Because the sample size includes niggers and other non-Whites. That constitutes just under 50% of the population. Since they do not matter, we may double the stat from 10% of the population to 20%.

>We are missing something, I will keep looking for the key to unlock this mystery.
I agree. 
In my own intensive self analysis, what woke me up was understanding the scope of the unfairness. I was raised a liberal by liberals. However, fairness has always been important to me and to this day, pointing it out constitutes a large part of my arguments with others. 
But not everyone is like that. 

My theory is that we need to appear stronger in order for people to want to join us. It is natural for humans to fear attaching themselves to an ideology or rather a tribe that is weak. That could mean death in the past and may lead to death today. Thus, banners, marches, and protests, while helpless to compel the regime to change its policies, are all essential for attaining power. It inspires others to hop off the fence and take part in history.
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>You only say that because you're a purist. But purists never accomplish anything because history and the real world is dirty.
You don't know what you're talking about. I have considered making uncomfy alliances and betraying them when needed. I am chill with even 50% of Whites dying, if needed by our hand, assuming the price is worth it. I'm merely very realpilled about the current paradigm.
>Because the sample size includes niggers and other non-Whites. That constitutes just under 50% of the population. Since they do not matter, we may double the stat from 10% of the population to 20%.
So you assume that as soon as we remove the non-Whites from the sampled pool, then suddenly if it had all been about Whites being pooled, more than 10% of them would support the alt-right? It is true that White vote goes much more towards the right, but it could already be included in 10%. That's because 10% is honestly very low, even at the scale of the entire population and all its races. You just assume that Whites contributed to most of the 10% but I don't agree with that.
Firstly because while Trump won the elections, you would expect a much higher support for the alt-right. There is in fact a strange disconnection between the elections result and that pool.
Secondly, even when non-Whites were a small minority, we already had a lot of Whites voting against Whites and in support of candidates who welcomed more migrants.
So while I could agree that pooling Whites only would theoretically increase the alt-right percentage, I don't think it would do so by more than a few points.
This being said I haven't seen what were the other options and if there were more interesting radical positions.
>My theory is that we need to appear stronger in order for people to want to join us. It is natural for humans to fear attaching themselves to an ideology or rather a tribe that is weak. That could mean death in the past and may lead to death today. Thus, banners, marches, and protests, while helpless to compel the regime to change its policies, are all essential for attaining power. It inspires others to hop off the fence and take part in history.
By now I'm firmly convinced that the recruitment will only do miracles if what we present is not the old tired political party, but a perfect blend of a religious movement with a far ranging scope of intents, with a mission that bridges past and future. In other words, it has to feel epic. It had to feel awesome. It has to excite people irrationally without requiring winning their hearts with arguments but with beautiful visions of the future and equally terrifying visions of another future if we would not do anything. It has to work on the level of intuition, emotions, shock, might. I would say it almost needs to feel like a movie. Something so unreal and bombastic that either you reject it violently or it raptures you in a whirlwind of colliding souls spinning around a luminous axis of light from where all can be seen. The semiotics have to be worked on. The icons, the symbolism, the enthralling sight of a reality that would be so different, so mind blowing and magnanimous that any alternative would feel bland, tasteless, weak, shy and already dead at birth. And that's something that we and only we can do. Jews cannot do that, it's beyond their abilities as they can only corrupt and confuse. Sorry if this will sound cringe but we must present ourselves as if we were selling the mighty project of some kind of Aryan World Hegemony, on Earth and beyond, an epic fight against those who seek our humiliation and destruction. We must totally forget any sense of humility at this point and sell a marvelous dream.
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>>9409
>So you assume that as soon as we remove the non-Whites from the sampled pool, then suddenly if it had all been about Whites being pooled, more than 10% of them would support the alt-right? 
Uh.. yeah. That's how it works.
If our sample is 1,000 people and 500 of them are White, 10% of 1,000 is 100. So 100 people out of 1,000 are alt-right. That's 10%.
But we don't care about the fact that 0 niggers and 1 spic support alt right positions. So we remove them from the sample. We can be pretty damn certain that at least 95% of the 100 pro-White individuals were also White themselves. 100 out of 500 Whites is 20%. That's good.
> You just assume that Whites contributed to most of the 10% but I don't agree with that.
Anon, I highly, highly doubt that shitskins are coming out in droves to oppose White genocide. 
But if they are, I will just kill myself out of embarrassment after saying, "Hey, they're doing the jobs White people aren't"

>a perfect blend of a religious movement with a far ranging scope of intents, with a mission that bridges past and future. In other words, it has to feel epic.
I agree. Politics is a means to an end. The end is Revolution.
In addition to a quasi religious crusade, we also need genuine social programs that ween our people off the regime.
Say, for example, that the regime just stops providing police protection to White people. That HAPPENED back in 2019 and also during the Obama years race riots. 
Fine. Then we provide that police protection instead. Golden Dawn literally did this. Niggers and spics already do this. 
Now, Patriot Front or whatever would need to be careful on this. But it's possible to enforce order and retaliate against criminals without being obvious about it. Even if all we can do is have impotent "community watch" organizations, that would be a vast improvement over nothing. Actually, that's a very dangerous thing indeed as community watch organizations can turn into a guerrilla force within minutes given the right environment.

Disaster relief is a much safer option as the regime mass arresting people over this is terrible optics. But even Right Wing Disaster Relief Squads can turn into insurgent cells within minutes if needed.

Anyway, I am in complete agreement with your cold pursuit of justice. I concur that there is no cost too high to pay in the name of racial victory.
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>>9414
> 100 pro-White individuals were also White themselves. 100 out of 500 Whites is 20%. That's good.
Well, the alt-right is not a pro-White general movement. Or at least there have been serious attempts by derads to make sure to push it towards racial blindness by stirring the juices of nostalgia about how things were better in the 90s, without yet allowing people to look at the works of this era to see what the racial representation percentages were. A few but beloved movies and shows even turned out to be totally devoid of niggers or spics. There also are non-Whites who try to marry into whiter communities just as much as there were a small percentage of young non-Whites who naturally drifted towards the alt-right and under the KEKISTAN banner. While it definitely was a move in the right direction for us, it would certainly not be the final train station. On the positive side of this I suppose you can that the more the White population comes closer to the alt-right, the more there were will be people who, by already being on the rightest end of that spectrum, saw themselves shoved into the more radical environment within which we already operate. I have a distaste for the alt-right because I saw what its figureheads defended. I saw the Milo bullshit with this fake blonde, faggot and nigger loving Greek Jew. He in fact married to that nigger. Although feminists, homosexuals and other degenerates are issues we have to solve, they're secondary to the war between Aryans and Jews and that's largely how I judge people. No attack on Jews is no attack at all. No clear defense of the white people is of no use.
>Anon, I highly, highly doubt that shitskins are coming out in droves to oppose White genocide. 
Obviously not but the alt-right does not and never opposed White genocide. It came out as a resistance against anti-White hatred, but the end result would just be a return to the "cool" multicultural society of yesteryear, and there would obviously be a lot of non-Whites who would get behind this. If elections are anything to go by in terms of probing a population's political tendencies, we saw that there was a significant mass of non-Whites who got behind Trump.
I remember that during his first candidacy, during a speech at a desk he lifted a little niggirl and said to the whole crowd "isn't she beautiful?" and many retards swallowed that crap like syrup. The alt-right is the perfect slow boil status quo because if it were maintained for a full century or two, most Whites would be mixed beyond recovery ala turbo-India and the whole population would entirely defend the cultural norm of racial mixing in support of their successive "cool" governments that would keep shuffling the varied populations about in order to increase and finalize the racial miscegenation once and for all. So that's why I'm very non-receptive about that poll. Nothing against you, just that poll and that lame result. What I want to know is where the radical Whites stand today. How many have now bought into the open and unfettered talk of race and perhaps, even, the casualization of the nigger word. We need to flush our respective modern cultures entirely. We must be ready to forget about 90% of books, comics, movies, shows, games and more. We will make better stuff in the future anyway.
>Say, for example, that the regime just stops providing police protection to White people. That HAPPENED back in 2019 and also during the Obama years race riots. Fine. Then we provide that police protection instead. Golden Dawn literally did this. Niggers and spics already do this. 
I totally agree. We overestimate the health and wealth of our counties/states/nations governments. The police is either declawed or refuses to go into certain areas that are at high risk. While the governments will not hesitate to send the big guys when it's needed, these are times when we will just need to hunker down and let them pass. At least for a while. But beyond that, the basic Joe cop will not be welcome in our places anymore. Militias, although illegal in many countries, will need to become the non-official yet very real protective force of the land. I think people are ready for this honestly. They hate the politicians and see that nothing good happens for them. Some cops too, not all of them of course, but some of them hate what their job has turned into. There are antiracist cops who hate us but there are others who hate non-White foreigners with a burning passion, likely waiting for a real group to emerge to feel united once again, not betrayed 24/7. The problem being that ZOG will know how to reformulate its speech to sound pleasing to people who long for repression and order. That's what the controlled right and far-right parties are all about, keeping the Jew in control while paying lip service to the idea of bringing order to our streets. However there is a certain risk to that by toeing the line with outlawed behavior but we will need to go there anyway. It will work. But as soon as we start inverting the balance of power between us and them, we will need to move into a totalitarian system that will crush once and for all any manifestation of treason. For a proper culling, ruthlessness will be necessary.
Golden Dawn is an interesting example but it failed to protect its own leaders. Instead of going on the run or meeting official police forces with proper armed civil resistance, they kept civil and got jailed. We simply cannot afford that.
>Even if all we can do is have impotent "community watch" organizations, that would be a vast improvement over nothing.
Sort of. I believe that we would need to train a reserve like the army does. At the very least some efficient mandatory gun training for both men and women, the latter in case some intruders come too close to schools and homes, while men will be doing the heavy lifting because that is our purpose. The goal is assuredly to raise a paramilitary and then take unofficial control of key territories, few of which will be cities for rather obvious reasons. Law without guns is toothless. The people holding the guns are the police and the military. Keeping them out of our lands will guarantee our capacity to have full control of the way we manage them. While ZOG may isolate us at first and reduce our access to food, energy and movement if things become really dire, which I assume would happen at the height of a civil war, circumventing automatic taxation by developing our own local economies while at the same time make wise use of crypto-currencies will give us a lot of liberty. We will probably need to get into coding a couple new e-currencies too and make sure they quickly become popular over White territories and organize all sorts of disturbances and marches as soon as the government would try to forbid them. Honestly, once we're properly organized and our model is spread into autonomous cells in every single area and town with a White majority, doing what I described will be a piece of cake, really, and the days of Jewish oppression will soon be over. Not even a Samson Option will save them. This of course implies that we will be cold and methodical in our regular screening of potential snitches.
But first thing first, we need to do the homework to organize proper political parties that offer a real alternative solution to the current poisoned way of life we're jadedly accept as our fateful daily routine!
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>>9417
>the alt-right is not a pro-White general movement
I disagree. This is like when you say "liberal" and someone starts ranting about how "liberal" actually means libertarian purists who love freedom.
No they don't. They mean blue haired feminist freaks who want to transition your son and house niggers in your backyard. 
Everyone except you who uses the term "alt right" is referring to White nationalists.
The term was invented by White nationalists and frankly, it is stupid to try to distance ourselves from the term since it had enormous popular awareness. It's too late to change course now, but we stupidly threw away an extremely effective term to call our movement. Now we lack a term and cringe every time we call ourselves anything specific. Having no name is not a good thing. And calling ourselves National Socialists has major drawbacks.
>What about the cringy people associated with the alt-right
They are now associating themselves with National Socialism or some other wordism. They will always exist. To throw away an extremely engaging popular term that united many desperate factions all because of a few cringe people is stupid. It's akin to apologizing over racism.

> the alt-right does not and never opposed White genocide
The alt-right is just a term applied to people. In my experience, the vast majority of alt righters opposed White genocide. 
We need to stop quibbling over words and focus on ideas. Better yet, focus on attaining power. We came closer than ever before to achieving a viable movement when we had a name for ourselves. Now, there are actually people on /fascist/ who shill against White nationalism because they don't like the words.
For fuck sake, why are we all acting like highschool girls? We bitch about everything: What clothing someone wears, names, how someone walks, the words they use in a speech, who their friends are, etc. 
If we could just focus on real, meaningful issues, we could escape the terminal internet "activism" and do things IRL.

>At the very least some efficient mandatory gun training for both men and women
Absolutely. We need training. An I believe that pro-White organizations should provide it. In an ideal world, we need a full spectrum, closed circuit pro-White organization with national or even international reach. It must be capable of providing weapons training, funding, and even banking. Imagine if there was a pro-White alternative bank with no usury (we can work out a fair way to recuperate investments that isn't based on debt slavery). 
We'll need disaster relief, lawyers of every stripe, media outlets, even electricians and stores. 

In short, we need a complete alternative to the System. Once it is possible for a White man to live entirely outside of the System, we will be able to muscle our way into power. It should be possible to lead a normal life without even interacting with jewish institutions and their lackeys. Pro-White stores, plumbing companies, banks, gyms, "police," private schools, lawyers, transportation, housing developers, etc.
Imagine...
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>>9423
To elaborate a little, I know that once a pro-White movement grew large enough to accomplish some of this, the regime would crack down on it. But that only exposes it as tyrannical and will energize thousands more to join out of spite.
As for police and real estate, it's entirely realistic to envision a situation where pro-White land lords rent or sell to White couples of good character for reasonable prices. If they work with a pro-White paramilitary, we could think of millions of ways to pressure enemies to leave without even resorting to serious violence (which would draw in the FBI).
It would be excellent practice for the real thing.
>>9423
>I disagree. This is like when you say "liberal" and someone starts ranting about how "liberal" actually means libertarian purists who love freedom. No they don't. They mean blue haired feminist freaks who want to transition your son and house niggers in your backyard. Everyone except you who uses the term "alt right" is referring to White nationalists.
If it were true than anytime some people argued along the lines of "let's stop racial hatred" and "color doesn't matter let's unite against the 1%" and stuff of that order for many years across many boards and forums, seldom did I see WN vociferating back and saying no, we needed a radical racial separation and remove niggers. Now it's possible that there's been a push back during the last three or four years by White lads to recapture the alt-right, which would be good. But I'm not going to ignore and forget what I've easily observed so many times over all these years just because it seems to rub you the wrong way.
If we even go deep into the roots of the AR's inception we see that some of the sources loop back onto Duginism, which hardly is a pro-White ideology. It's perhaps because White Nationalism tried to sanitize itself that it also precisely allowed more liberal people and soft conservatives to get into the fray. I won't deny that there was a core of WN but it wasn't the whole of what at some point this entire AR milieu ballooned into. There all sorts of insects getting in, dubious e-celebs. Yellow fevered Anglin. Even Shapiro at some point was being championed on supposed AR channels. What is White Nationalism if it's not racist? The entire support charade for Trump as a White savior of some kind. Calculations, schemes, etc. So perhaps there have been good changes recently and I will take your word on this. I for one stopped caring about them and the compromises.
>The alt-right is just a term applied to people. In my experience, the vast majority of alt righters opposed White genocide. 
The only way to oppose the genocide is to terminate full stop the non-White immigration and to reverse it into total expulsion. It's a recipe that's been known for half a century already. I don't recall this being made explicit at large by the entirety of the AR. But maybe the "alt-lite" (if that's the term) has been ditched for good? Political wastes of time cannot be tolerated anymore.
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>The 37th Precept formerly cited already strongly and clearly established the importance of race and racism and obviously implied that nationalism isn't enough since it merely covers the interest of a nation, which within this context would not be a strong enough definition without precisely the racial element. The same Precept even reminds what stands against Nature. You should read is again and pay more attention.
Never argued against this, what's your point here? Fascism just doesn't refer to Italian Fascism only. but also German National Socialism, Spanish Falangism, Romanian Legionarism and Belgian Rexism. If you are trying to argue that Italian Fascism is "non-racialist", you are not only wrong, but you've also missed the forest for the trees as well.
>I don't even know where you're going with this because it would really be a laughably broken appreciation of the man's works to think that a liberal would ever positively cite Lane. He has always supported a revolution, first of the mind, then action. I also had another quotation in mind but I couldn't find it.
You said that it was logical that there would be a "strong liberal form of White Nationalism" so I explained to you the paradoxical implications of such ideology. And you've also said Americans have "cultural averse to statism" which is contrary to human nature and psychology. And to say that "excess of control and law" is poisonous implies Anarkiddie/Lolbert position/notion to take on. 
>Sheeple will be sheeple. News at 11.  Let's forget the people who hated this but had to cave in, and those who managed to avoid the clot shot.
If you knew that it was poisonous and you still chose it to not forsake your luxury and comforts yet. Then you absolutely cannot handle what's coming at all. How would you be better than the lemmings who simply took it out of ignorance even? And how can you trust yourself not to snitch if you are faced with extreme pressure and torture?
We don't need clot slottees, we need those who had the balls to say "Fuck off" to it. they are the potential elites of your nation and your race as they exhibit great characters based upon courage and noblesse oblige (by refusing the clot shot as shown, they can resist any further pressure). We need THOSE people, not some useless Joe indulging in his daily bread and circus.
>This changes nothing to the fact that at large the major figures of American White Nationalism often sneer at socialism and fascism, largely because these were the enemies of America during the second world war and it tainted everything. These people landed into White Nationalism through the door of American conservatism, and that's being generous when not assuming they're controlled opposition.
And this is relevant to Fascism how? Who gives a shit about their opinions? Nobody remembers the John Birch Society, but they do remember Rockwell enough to discuss about him either in negative or positive manner.
>Fascism only thrives in countries that have a historical culture of very strong centralized regimes that almost resound like variants of past monarchies without however becoming true ones because the focus is on the state and doesn't derive (much) from family oriented struggles for power.
What is this comparison? Hitler would had cringed reading this, the only thing Monarchies and Fascism share is just the autocracy. you have to be really dense to compare Feudalism out of all with it.
>It's a hard sell to American Whites.
And a hard sell it is, it worked, and forever works. I don't even need to remind you about AI translated Hitler speeches or James Mason going viral on Instagram.
>You're explaining communism, not legitimizing the bizarre equivalency you made. Say what you wish of White Nationalism in America but it's certainly not communism because it acknowledges and defends both the racial reality and the private property, both of which are denied by communism. It certainly doesn't suffice, but at least on these two points there is no disagreement possible.
I'm not sure how you cannot understand on why there exists purposeful elevation of subhuman Whites (As in animal abusers, pedos, etc) by WNs which could mean to implicate communist tendencies in WN. Their behavior online shows the case.
>When I speak of this board being WN I mean the right version of WN, the complete one that has a radical take on politics and economy and eschews liberal positions.
Okay, but you are not the arbiter of WN. You didn't lay out all your principles by speech or written record. You don't hold any authoritarian monopoly over the term itself and this means that there's absolutely nothing, NOTHING preventing millions of retards with their 'different interpretation' of WN to come it shit all up and eventually this "radical WN" would be dissolved. Hitler literally poked fun at this and made entire chapters shitting on such concept alone in his book.
>You also attack WN but you seem to forget that it's been infiltrated and veered off course on purpose.
It's been able to be "infiltrated and veered off course on purpose" because of that exact previous reason i've mentioned.)
>The same could happen with fascism, 
Various groups have tried already and failed, dude. Prime example were the Strasserists themselves.
>and no later than tomorrow some Jews could begin promoting their own version that puts obedience to Jews above anything else curtailing any attempt at injecting White racialism into this modern American fascism. A radical civic nationalism in other words, with a slightly renewed American economy and a sufficient reduction of the freeloading portion of the population to keep the ball rolling long enough in America, even if in a dimmed manner all things considered, while Europe sinks into a brown sea. I believe there even is a Trump contingency plan that includes such a shift. One could argue that these first steps have already been made visible, with the patriotic good nigger, the good latrino, etc.
The Jew dystopia you're describing isn't Fascist because the principles written by our Champions prevent them from doing so, they can only imitate a poor version of it at best (which could still fall very quickly because their totalitarian 'civil nationalist' society doesn't acknowledge racial hierarchy at all, with Aryans at the very top.)
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>The term was invented by White nationalists 
You mean a retarded faggot that came on the defence of Sodomites every single time and his kike mentor Paul Gottfried? Truly your based and huwite 'White nationalists', bro.
>and frankly, it is stupid to try to distance ourselves from the term since it had enormous popular awareness. It's too late to change course now, but we stupidly threw away an extremely effective term to call our movement. Now we lack a term and cringe every time we call ourselves anything specific. 
<WE HAD POPULAR AWARENESS MAAYNEE, WE WUZ SO POPULAR AND DEY HAD TO RUIN IT ALL
No, you were only viral after Hillary shouted your name out which you fizzed out after Charlottesville and then dragged through the mud, now your only legacy is being shouted out by Breadtubers as a boogeyman with the addition of "HERE IS HOW I ESCAPED THE ALT_RIGHT PIPELINE" goyslop. You're as delusional as the people believing that an Ancient Egyptian chaotic frog deity actually got Trump elected.
>Having no name is not a good thing. And calling ourselves National Socialists has major drawbacks.
>>>major drawbacks.
Only for YOU, opticscuckold.
>They are now associating themselves with National Socialism or some other wordism. They will always exist.
<nuh uh bro it wasn't us faggots, pedos and degenerates of every other variety, it was just da natzees bro
>To throw away an extremely engaging popular term that united many desperate factions all because of a few cringe people is stupid. It's akin to apologizing over racism.
"It must never be forgotten that nothing truly great in the world has ever been achieved by an alliance." - AH
>We need to stop quibbling over words and focus on ideas. Better yet, focus on attaining power. We came closer than ever before to achieving a viable movement when we had a name for ourselves. Now, there are actually people on /fascist/ who shill against White nationalism because they don't like the words. For fuck sake, why are we all acting like highschool girls? We bitch about everything: What clothing someone wears, names, how someone walks, the words they use in a speech, who their friends are, etc. 
<UMM GOY IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR +10, HOW CAN YOU BE HECKING FASCIST... ON THE FASCIST BOARD? NAZISM IS JUST MEANINGLESS "WORDISM", NOW DONATE TO MY E-DADDY GOYIM.
Also imagine telling Hitler that he "acted like a high school girl". Pathetic excuse and cope from an Opticscuck desperately trying to piggyback on us without having to do all the effort by himself.
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>>9390
>Commander Rockwell, Dr. Pierce, James Mason
They were all complete failures that accomplished nothing, why should we listen to them?
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>>9433
>Hitler Goebbels Himmler and Goering failed, why should we listen to them?
Hot take fruit cake!
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>>9435
Hitler took a ruined nation and turned it into a world power, one that was only destroyed through the combined forces of the soviet union, the anglosphere and internal sabotage. Rockwell was killed by one of your based rejects, Pierce's son is an anti-White communist and his organization amounted to nothing and Mason's career peaked when he went on some random Christian's radio show to talk about how Satanism was cool and edgy.
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>>9435
Hitler completely wrecked all of Europe and led to deaths of millions of White men and women. He did more to destroy the movement than anything else. At this point I am beginning to believe that there is some truth that Hitler was a Jewish psyop.
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>>9437
You are a MORON, Hitler didn't wanted the war, he was BRAGGED into the war.
YOU FOOL.
>>9436
You're a fabulous clown and I doubt you belong here. You certainly got lost.
Hitler wasn't alone and had a lot of material and political support. Germany was virtually all White and he didn't have to convince a majority of Germans brainwashed by anti-Germanism.
>Rockwell was killed by one of your based rejects
>your
Are you retarded per chance?
Funny you can't even see that the way he was put down mirrors what happened to Germany, but at the scale of one man only.
>Pierce's son is an anti-White communist and his organization amounted to nothing
At its peak the organization reached more than a million people. He produced the most radical and relevant work in the 70s and 80s. Radical Whites followed his teachings and applied his writings.
>Mason
I don't read Mason nor do I care about him.
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>>9437
lol kys faggot
>>9440
>Germany was virtually all White and he didn't have to convince a majority of Germans brainwashed by anti-Germanism.
American was still a racist and pro-eugenics country in the time of Rockwell.
>>your
Yes, your ilk.
>Funny you can't even see that the way he was put down mirrors what happened to Germany, but at the scale of one man only.
Rockwell suffering the consequences of willingly surrounding himself with antisocial freaks is the same as what happened to Germany?
>At its peak the organization reached more than a million people.
Wow, a million people? The organization much have accomplished a lot then, right?
>He produced the most radical and relevant work in the 70s and 80s.
What is that? Making a fake religion? Writing bad fiction?
>Radical Whites followed his teachings and applied his writings.
Radical Whites consumed, and rarely applied, his baseless writings to no effect.
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>>9426
>seldom did I see WN vociferating back and saying no
That's odd because I seldom recall seeing people say we need to unite against the 1%. Ironically, I have always disliked how a majority of the dissident right have this weird fetishization of capitalism. Uniting with niggers is impossible. But we have niggers and spics in large part because of capitalism. Yes, jews are religiously anti-White. But gentile capitalists are collaborating with them and are just as eager to import third worlders for their low wages and union busting qualities.
If anyone deserves to be tortured to death, they do.

>Duginism
I get it but I just do not see how Duginism has any serious role in actually forming the alt-right. Are there Duganists in the dissident right? Yes. But this is more to do with anti-ZOGism than any serious support for what is defacto just Russian imperialism cope. It's like support for Assad. Is Assad a White nationalist? No. Never was. And frankly, he was an absolute failure of an anti-zionist to boot. But everyone loves him because the zionist regime hated him. Therefore, he must have been based.

>The only way to oppose the genocide is to terminate full stop the non-White immigration and to reverse it into total expulsion. 
I agree. Everyone agrees. The contention is how we accomplish this.
I believe that the only way to do it is an extraordinarily violent revolution. But there are several steps between this goal and today. One of those is active participation in politics and forcing the regime to mass arrest people. I'm prepared to be martyred this way if it is necessary. The fact is that without visible repression of SERIOUS degree, no one is going to actually fight. 

>>9431
>You're an opticscuck because you understand that wearing the trappings of 1940s Germany in 2020s America makes people think we're LARPers
Okay. 

>"It must never be forgotten that nothing truly great in the world has ever been achieved by an alliance." - AH
Says the guy who allied with Asians who were attacking White colonial possessions. And made an alliance with Muslims that didn't even pan out well. Hell, the alliance with Japan was also a fruitless alliance since the Japs literally never did a single thing that actually benefitted Germany. They wouldn't even attack the USSR when they were at their weakest. Had they done so, Hitler could have won the Battle of Moscow. But nope. Romania did more for Germany than Japan did and yet they get shat on. Fucking hell, Slovakia was a more faithful ally and did more for Germany than Japan was.

But fine. So what's your proposal to overthrow the regime?
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>>9442
>American was still a racist and pro-eugenics country in the time of Rockwell.
>70s America
>racist and pro-eugenics
Man you have no idea what you're talking about. 1964 had already been voted. People fucked with negroes and danced to disco tunes while white men were dying in random jungles because reasons. Being openly racist and antisemitic was already over. In case you didn't understand, the whole war against most of Europe was waged precisely to destroy le ebil raysis and anticementic kraut.
>Yes, your ilk.
I have nothing to do with these people.
>Rockwell suffering the consequences of willingly surrounding himself with antisocial freaks is the same as what happened to Germany?
Antisocial freaks you say? Not just awakened Whites with no good future in sight? Just because one of them was turned against Rockwell.
>Wow, a million people? The organization much have accomplished a lot then, right?
Imagine if Vatican closed tomorrow. Billions you say? Suddenly it would mean nothing.
>What is that? Making a fake religion? Writing bad fiction?
No retard but I think I'll let you search for yourself.
>Radical Whites consumed, and rarely applied, his baseless writings to no effect.
That's because we are not enough yet. But I understand it's easy to criticize. What your pea sized brain can't process is that we're facing worse odds than Germans and Italians did. Yet all you can do from behind your screen is attack the memory of good people who tried to do something.
>>9444
>Russian imperialism cope
ZOG Russian imperialism. Putin is just as anti-White as any Jew.
Meanwhile Dugin hated Ukrainians so much he longed for their destruction.
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I hate the way language keeps evolving in shortening everything to gain more time and go faster and again and again. I think there will come a time when there will be some form of unsuppressed pleasure in taking one's time and making the longest sentences possible with most pedant and ancient grammatical forms as a kind of FU to this materialistic society obsessed about efficiency, production and growth that turns us into cogs.
>>9444
>Says the guy who allied with Asians who were attacking White colonial possessions. And made an alliance with Muslims that didn't even pan out well. Hell, the alliance with Japan was also a fruitless alliance since the Japs literally never did a single thing that actually benefitted Germany. They wouldn't even attack the USSR when they were at their weakest. Had they done so, Hitler could have won the Battle of Moscow. But nope. Romania did more for Germany than Japan did and yet they get shat on. Fucking hell, Slovakia was a more faithful ally and did more for Germany than Japan was.
It's even worse when we remember that the declaration of war with the US was due to this deal between Germany and Japan. I'm not naive enough to believe that the ((( US ))) wouldn't have entered the war under any flimsy excuse anyway.
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>>9458
Yes, but it's different. Russian jews are old-fashioned jews.

>>9460
Imagine what good just one more year of no American involvement would have done.
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Pierce was a smart guy and a good propagandist. But the National Alliance only became relevant after the feds did OKC and blamed it on the Turner Diaries, i.e. by accident.

Also, the man went through multiple mail-order brides from Eastern Europe. His only son abandoned him for being an abusive bully so he ended up with no legacy. The National Alliance collapsed and its propaganda arm got taken over by a supposed paedophile. Supposedly WWW runs what's left of the organization proper now but I honestly only realized they still existed a few months ago.

So basically what I'm saying is that if the NA was successful I'd hate to see a failure. Same goes for the ANP. Wignatism really seems to be a culture reveling in failure starting with Hitler
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>>9467
>So basically what I'm saying is that if the NA was successful I'd hate to see a failure. 
Nobody made that claim but an anon argues that it was a pathetic failure that achieved absolutely nothing. Maybe that was you?
We have to accept our failures and look into them.
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>>9430
>Never argued against this, what's your point here? 
You tell me. You dropped a long post arguing that mine and that Precept didn't make a distinction that racialism and fascism combined were necessary, and I doubt that you were waiting for a citation that made explicit use of the fascism because it's not present in any other Precept, including the one you posted, and that's a word that Lane seldom used anyway. So perhaps there's been a misunderstanding.
>You said that it was logical that there would be a "strong liberal form of White Nationalism" so I explained to you the paradoxical implications of such ideology. And you've also said Americans have "cultural averse to statism" which is contrary to human nature and psychology. 
Perhaps but that's what most of American culture has been about for the last century at least. Anytime there seems to be what the American cultural mindeset distinguishes as an overreach on the economical front, it's dubbed socialism as some kind of euphemism for barely veiled communism, as in, we steal from you and that's bad. Then if this gets projected into all other aspects of the political life, that same cultural mindset will call it fascism. The American population has been fed on anti-fascism for a century now. Therefore it's logical that the United States would give birth to that thing I called a "strong liberal form of White Nationalism", regardless of whether it would be good or not.
>And to say that "excess of control and law" is poisonous implies Anarkiddie/Lolbert position/notion to take on.
You don't see any issue with an overbearing government that would want to legalize on everything and micro-manage into every single aspect of life? Laws by definition regulate, they bring order by removing liberties so that all people dance to same tune and know what can be done and cannot. They are necessary. But when the state is now just a law spouting machine that keeps making new ones every week and the population cannot keep up with this, where laws multiply uncontrollably and even exist to modify former laws, it's when it's gone mad.

>9th Precept
>A proliferation of laws with the resultant loss of freedom is a sign of, and directly proportional to, spiritual sickness in a Nation.

>If you knew that it was poisonous and you still chose it to not forsake your luxury and comforts yet.
Needing money to feed and clothe your children, keep yourself decently healthy, capable of working and to pay the bill is not what I'd call luxury, and that is yet what hit most of those who understood to some extent that it was wrong. They didn't have any immediate choice. I'm not talking about the uneducated masses that got caught in the trap and feared for their immediate comfort or ability to move around, which was already bad enough.
>And how can you trust yourself not to snitch if you are faced with extreme pressure and torture?
That is a risk we will have to take otherwise we already go purity spiraling before we haven't increased our numbers significantly.
>>This changes nothing to the fact that at large the major figures of American White Nationalism often sneer at socialism and fascism
>And this is relevant to Fascism how?
You're asking me why a culture built upon rejecting any form of fascism and proud of having defeated Italy is relevant to Fascism (a capitalized F specifically refers to the Italian form of fascism and not the general idea of it). This cannot work.
>What is this comparison? Hitler would had cringed reading this, the only thing Monarchies and Fascism share is just the autocracy. you have to be really dense to compare Feudalism out of all with it.
Hitler was born in Austria and took control of Germany. Monarchies still were a thing in this area of Europe less than a century before these dates, and for countless centuries before. The entire foundation of America on the other hand is a constant glorification of Liberdy. Hence why selling fascism to Americans is harder and why at most I've only heard people talk about a hard Republic wherein there seems to remain a crucial form of voting.
Also feudalism only represents a very small segment of the history of monarchies. I wouldn't even say that European would want to go there but at least it's part of the memorized imprint, whereas indentured servitude is the most that American culture has to account for and didn't concern a large quantity of non-nobles, very far from it. All in all it's rather a simple point I make, that European culture has a much stronger habit of being accepting of strong centralized powers than America, especially in its very liberal contemporary form.
>And a hard sell it is, it worked, and forever works. I don't even need to remind you about AI translated Hitler speeches or James Mason going viral on Instagram.
Going viral? How much exactly? Beyond what group or political bounds? What speeches exactly? Which ones do openly and directly argue for fascism?
Agreeing with overall ideas is much different than agreeing with a specific political application of a governing method.
>Okay, but you are not the arbiter of WN.
You decided, not me, that my post was somehow an attempt at converting millions at thus the right definition of White Nationalism. I'm merely having a discussion about it, its limits and forms, and what it should try to be at best if it were to succeed. However, there is no doubt that if I were to engage in politics at a large scale, I would work on providing the best form possible and then drill it into the heads of all people as the fact and truth of the day.
>Various groups have tried already and failed, dude. Prime example were the Strasserists themselves.
How many other groups tried that, and with what resources? Let's say for now that it didn't work because the attempt wasn't done with any concerted effort by the enemy. I think you're naive if you don't think that Trump could pave the way for a tailor made form of American Zionist fascism. This is why I focused on the White race and provided a Precept that included the importance of race braced against the reality of what Nature requires.
>The Jew dystopia you're describing isn't Fascist 
Of course you cannot have Fascism with kikes at the helm. But in theory, a warped form of strong statism that for all intents and purposes adopts the outer shape of a fascism while remaining compliant to Zionist needs and principles could happen. It could happen very easily as soon as Jews would decide they need to cut through the debates and unite POTUS and congress into one strong power and eschew the appearances of democracy. Jews have even produced coins that present Donald Trump and Cyrus the Great together. Both of them shabbos goyim only separated by thousands of years but all in service of the Jews and willing to destroy enemies through war and rule over them with an iron fist.
>>9465
>Yes, but it's different. Russian jews are old-fashioned jews.
I think that's because they operate in a different economical bubble and on the geopolitical front they don't belong to a superpower that's been designed to be the international bully doing the Zionists' dirty work. So Russian Jews, when they stay within the Russian area, seem to be minding their own big business but that is probably a falsity, a distortion of perspective. Doubtless they have all sorts of investments in the Middle East and with Asia.
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>>9467
>The national Alliance only became relevant by accident
History is replete with such accidents.
>Dr. Pierce was imperfect
Yes. So am I. So are you.
>The National Alliance imploded after Pierce's death.
Another common thing in history. German National Socialism collapsed after Hitler's death too. A common failing of great men is a failure to ensure that their legacy is carried on by a successor. Always think about your successor if you end up doing something great.

> if the NA was successful I'd hate to see a failure
Look around you.
We're in deep shit.

>>9475
>Russian Jews seem to be minding their own big business
I wouldn't say that. But they do have a different, more loot oriented mentality. They're closer to the jews that Tacitus or King Richard observed. Liberal jews are next level jews. 
And to an extent, they do believe their propaganda. Everyone ends up believing some of their propaganda. So if you took 100 Russian jews and 100 American jews and time traveled them to the Iron Age, they would pursue different modes of subversion. And frankly, the Russian jews would do better. Liberal jews are like a parasite that exists within a lab setting. Liberal America is the perfect environment for them and they would suffer out in the real world.
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>>9472
>We have to accept our failures and look into them
True wisdom.
>>9478
>German National Socialism collapsed after Hitler's death too.
No. Germany was destroyed through and thorough and every trace of National Socialism removed. Himmler was creating an order which purpose was to furnish the next leaders of the Reich. The Jews attacked and destroyed all of that.
Pierce's organization fell because he didn't spend enough years building an internal elite that would carry on the work, even if that would have meant finding someone outside of the US and getting that person the proper papers. The NA was soapbox, microphone and speaker for Pierce and that was it. A pity because for thirty years he came close to many great WN figures.
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Redpill me on silencers. Can they actually muffle an indoor gunshot to the point it isn't heard from the outside, or is that just fuddlore and Hollywood bullshit?
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>>9492
look up 22lr silencer 3d printed youtube or none youtube . you'll see and I might build "not a glock". 22lr
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/uhN5CfGewyQ
you need supersonic ammunition
>>9491
>Himmler was creating an order which purpose
Himmler surrendered to the enemy. 
He jumped ship even while the Fuhrer was alive. But once he was dead, their will to resist collapsed.
Afghans didn't submit once they were occupied. Germans could have resisted forever, but their will to resist broke when the Fuhrer did.

This is true though
>Pierce's organization fell because he didn't spend enough years building an internal elite that would carry on the work, even if that would have meant finding someone outside of the US and getting that person the proper papers.
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Why is neo-Nazism so prominent in Ukraine for the past decades? Out of all of Europe, it's surprising how exceptionally large their support is there, of all places. Does it really come down to anti-Soviet nationalism with a sprinkle of Gladio in the 1950s?
(We must intentionally consider their groups as neo-Nazism and not NatSoc because anyone who has read the basics understands that Slavic subhumans are deluded if they consider themselves part of our movement)
>>9389
>You can trust the disenfranchised White male. Poor and unemployable.
Retard. I can tell you've done no work on the ground. Whether you know it or not, and I'm not blaming you, but that's marxist rhetoric that got recycled somewhere up the line. How do you think glowniggers get informants? By asking for volunteers? No, they bribe the poor and unemployable specifically. Look at the known traitors of half the fascist groups that collapsed, it's either the permavirgin basement dweller or the jobless leech living on the compound. Well, not counting obvious jews who made it in, the standards today slipped so far that the aussie fuck ups let a brown greek faggot in who embezzled their funds. But I hope noone here needs to be told that. It's fucking obvious.
If they come to you because the system let them down, they'll throw you away once the system gives them an opportunity.
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>>9497
That's why I like the Aussies. Tom, Blair, and Jacob are head and shoulders above all the American nationalists and Joel is at least good with media. If one of them gets thrown in jail for a long time they have redundancy
>>9499
He wasn't embezzling so much as pretending to collect funds for the org on social media. It's funny you call the Aussies fuck-ups since they're the best RW movement in the Anglosphere hands-down.
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>>9500
I'm not as informed as I should be on what's going on down under.
However, I have seen videos of large gatherings and organization. This is good.
Naysayers will bitch that "marching around doesn't doooo anything, waaaa"
But even something as simple as an hour march (150 people) requires serious logistics, planning, organization, discipline, and possibly a small amount of crowdfunding.
All of these things are critically important for us to know, streamline, and expand. They are the most basic things insurgents must understand to win. And we need actual practice, not just people watching a video on organizing and thinking they're an expert. Or worse, playing a strategy game and thinking that things like men moving around just happen because you told them to.
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Will seed oils be permitted in a fascist state?
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>>9500
>It's funny you call the Aussies fuck-ups since they're the best RW movement in the Anglosphere hands-down.
Their principles and their action are garbage. They're basically just good at PR, which is something, like we can use that, but when you see the base their facade sits upon, you realize that the best we can hope for is that another group jumpboards off them.
Their main recruitment tactic is grabbing permanently-online outcasts and mentally ill teenagers from social services. The NSN is over 50% spergs and they acknowledge that's making some things difficult. And, while they have 'far' better leadership than Patriot Front, they share core issues below and are having similar problems develop. Again, I don't want to draw that comparison because PF were far worse, but the seeds of that recruitment style are sprouting. Military men thinking they can fix self-selecting degenerates, it's the same skeleton beneath their talented media skills.
They're the best NatSoc movement in the Anglosphere. Yeah. That's true afaik. I'm not saying they shouldn't be congratulated for that. But they're not gonna fuck you so stop being a white knight and getting defensive when we analyse them and point out the problems they aren't fixing. They let a brown multicultralist faggot in, who proceeded to scam them. Tell me with a straight face that this is what a functional org allows to happen. They're the best at media. They have a decent upper structure. But that's all, and if they don't see this, they won't fix it and they'll collapse. And them collapsing is only a good thing if there's someone ready to take their place, and neither of us see someone like that yet.
Also, fuck the Adelaide branch. ((( O9A )))niggers got their foot in the leadership solid. Again, if Tom and the lads don't know when to mulch a branch and reshape it, this shit goes to far to stop without a split and they end up drinking koolaid in a commie schizo compound.
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>>9503
Sesame oil is actually pretty alright for flavor but otherwise yeah. Out of all the toxic shit in our food vegetable oils probably kill the most
>>9504
I mean I pretty much agree with you. I didn't know that shit about O9A. Not really a surprise. And yeah I would never work with a Greek in America. I don't even like the Irish
>>9504
>Their main recruitment tactic is grabbing permanently-online outcasts and mentally ill teenagers from social services.
Sounds like what Commander Rockwell would have done. 

>stop being a white knight 
Stop aiding the jews in tearing own every accomplishment. Jews and feds won't give you a blow job for trying to sabotage our efforts to organize... or maybe they would. In any case, stop aiding the enemy.
>>9502
>Naysayers will bitch that "marching around doesn't doooo anything, waaaa"
Well, since you're so arrogantly, obnoxiously cocksure that marches, pamphlets and Youtube videos are THE key to the overthrowing of ZOG, I'm sure you'll have no trouble whatsoever in enumerating the concrete, tangible, actual gains contributed to the cause in all these years. No need to go on detail or exposition at length, an itemized bullet point summary will suffice. Oh, and don't forget the obligatory Patriot Front plug, you look like you're gonna blow a blood vessel after ten minutes of not shilling them.
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The Gun Free Schools Act of 1990 is such fucking bullshit. Even in a constitutional carry state I have to jump through the permit hoops just to avoid a potential felony for carrying within 1000 feet of any school
>>9502
Make a march where you all mask up, and you burn down a synagogue.
Or just enter it yourselves. See the difference that would make. If niggers can meet up and unilaterally burn everything down. Why can't you. I'm suggesting these things because you are: Obviously a PF fag. Doing anything else is better than marches.
>>9499
I think your right. The original NSDAP was a workers party. I have not done any work on the ground. I'm a really good knife guy though.
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>>9508
>>9512
They have achieved organizing White men. That's 100,000,000 times more for the cause than your bitching has done.
I do not need to mention the direct disaster relief work, combat training, and pro-White propaganda Patriot Front has done, again, 100,000,000 times more than you ever have and ever will accomplish.
Really, the mere fact that they have achieved something as vital as organization is the true accomplishment that no amount of 4chan bitching ever will.
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>>9515
That's really funny. Was that recent?
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>>9515
Unfathomably based.
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>>9515
>>9517
Now I'm a bit confused. I was under the impression that Australia had severe censorship laws. Am I wrong? 
I figured that this was impossible in Australia. It certainly would be illegal in various European joke countries.
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>>9516
Yeah. Some African did a machete attack at the mall a week or two ago. This is their first protest after those crazy anti-association bail conditions for loitering got dropped
>>9518
Idk how much they care about enforcing those laws when it comes to anti-black racism since Africans don't really have much political capital in Australia. They seem to be mostly for Jews, jeets and Asians
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>>9519
Yet more proof that power comes from organization. Asians, jeets, and jews are extremely well organized, despite their numbers. Through this, they exert power and control over our systems because we are not.
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>>9522
jeets have restaurants where they rent the basement, and a huge lobby. Almost a hang out spot. Lots of these coloreds have restaurants as well. You'll see spics open up shops here in America. It's disgusting and I deplore we buy White.
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going through my old bookmarks. I think this is a ukranian intelligence meme database? I found it on yandex https://archive.shadowwarfare.info/

it used to be tor-only but now I'm able to access it through the clearweb. it hasn't been updated since 2022 but I thought you guys might get a kick out of it nonetheless

btw it has pdfs of SIEGE proving my point the atomwaffles are feds
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We all just need to kill ourselves. The blackpill is the only pill that matters anymore. There are 10 of us and infinity of them.
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>>9526
Based suicidebro. If only we were as brave.

Ashes and echoes, anonymous. Ashes and fucking echoes.
Reminder: There is no samefag. We all came to a mutual understanding that the jews will only keep winning. Its a gutpunch knowing we are destined to lose but entirely necessary if you aren't jewish or a normalniggercattlefuck
>>9523
Zion Don is replacing you with Pedro and Rajshit Sukdik, everyone wants us actually White individuals dead, the only thing in the future is death and war with no light or hope, and you're Jewish
>>9524
can't access it, i like atomwaffen pdfs
>>9499
>If they come to you because the system let them down, they'll throw you away once the system gives them an opportunity.
It's a hard path to walk for sure. A much better solidarity would make sure these people find a job, friends, a really decent girlf friend or wife, and a community of mutual support. Throwing lol kek faggot nigger all day long has its own inherent limits. We must focus on the network part that will provide solutions for our people, at the very least on the level of "I know a guy who's looking for some help in his project or company" or "you look alone you should come to our convention or party" or something. We are social creatures, we need meaningful relations and only finding them on internet is not going to cut it. Being part of a club or organization should lead to having a real, solid job that brings in something good to all, starting with protection, education and money.
>>9515
>BAN MUSLIMS
>NOT BUTTER KNIVES
Meanwhile in England
>>9523
Restaurants are good places to collect money, especially from the retarded boomers who will love to remind others how they found a very nice and lovely Indian chap three streets away in the blue district who cooks such exquisite exotic meals in a charming decor and you really should MY FUCKING ASS ON THE MOON CAN'T YOU JUST DIE???
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What are the best archive sites available to anons that have a low censorship rate and remain rather stable and available for years?
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>>9523
Implore.
I agree. The aggravating thing is that jeets buy from or sell to jeets, hire jeets, and promote jeets knowing that the favors will be paid forward to other jeets, thus strengthening the jeetdom as a whole. We hire a White guy and there's still a 50% chance he is a retard cuckservative even if we avoid selling to wigger shitlbs with safety pins through their lips.

Mind you, we should still buy from, sell to, and hire White people because a 50% (or even 20%) chance of benefiting a good person is still better than 0%.
>>9533
I used to caretake for a grandmother who literally went out of her way to touch niggerbaby hair and praise niggerbabies she encountered on the street. Not so with White babies, and yes, she was White.
She hated Chinese, but had this weird boomer fetish with niggerbabies. 
You're probably thinking that it was just that she liked babies and I cannot stress enough, it was a fetish.
I often had to separate her from nigger moms with niggerbabies or she would reach out and oggle them. I was worried that she was going to start a fight. It was actually kind of creepy not just for me, but the nigger moms got a little weirded out too.

Boomers. Why are they like this?
>>9526
Uh huh.
You first, budy.
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>>9537
That's the consensus on the /b/ board.
>>9534
Using the take screenshot function on web browsers and saving complete page as mhtml on your device.
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>>9537
Those posts are copy-pasted from /b/. I think it's a bot.
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Reminder to derad faggots and optics fags, we will not concede. Violence is the only solution. We will have total Aryan victory someday. So our White children can have a kike free society. Free from usury and an ethnostate for Whites only. Boomers experienced this, perhaps our children will too. If we become Marty's and sacrifice our lives, make such a big impact and make America White again. Organize and have operatives saving the White race. Turner Diaries!
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>>9548
>We will have total Aryan victory someday
>someday
Nah fuck it, it's over. I don't care anymore.
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>>9549
This.
>>9539
Yeah but how do you host and share them then?
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>>9548
All I want is death for boomers and all the rest of the Qkike sympathizers. Traitors before enemies.
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>>9556
Pic related as to why revolution is impossible thanks to pic related.
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>>9557
>mutts unironically believe this
Punk might even be more Jewish than hip hop. The Ramones, the Clash, the Sex Pistols, Black Flag, Bad Religion, I could go on all had either Jewish members or managers
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Israel might even be more Jewish than the US. The President, the Prime Minister, the Knesset Speaker, the Chief Justice, I could go on all were either religiously or ethnically Jewish.
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>>9561
>Israel might even be more Jewish than the US
No fucking way! Ha! Wait till the boomers find out about this.
>>9556
>how do you host and share files?
<STOB ASGING QESHDUNS JEW
Bots are too stupid.
>>9559
You could start with a link because that's a fine point to make and far more subversive. The punk culture never was a danger, just a conveniently managed pressure valve to get the youth into a state of total disrespect for the older institutions, not that they were really good, but they still contained traces of White Classcism and that couldn't go down soon enough.
The real righteous rebels were and will always be the Natsoc prople.
>>9548
Is that the Native schizo waving knives around like a retarded kid.
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>>9567
Your a delusional pussy
Also anybody notice the quality of posters going down? Did somebody share this site on the sharty or something?
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>>9569
we're getting raided by some passive agressive glowniggers that need to be deleted
>>9567
I am neither delusional nor a pussy. The dude in that video, due to his dark straight hair and dark eyes, is not even white european. And I am no one dropper either. I am a believer of David Lane's 'if it looks white, acts white, it's white reasoning.' But it crosses into territory we cannot consider if it has very clear non-European traits. 87% to 95% European is the  bare minimum in my books. And even then, if the individual has visible non-White physical or behavior traits, I am sorry, no. I believe in eugenics first and foremost. If for example, a woman has blond hair, blue eyes, and is intelligent enough to do long division, that's breeding material. If, however, a woman looks like a dumpy Jewess like Jeanie Bueller from Ferris Bueller's Day off or Stormfront from the Boys, I nope out even if they were gentiles. Because 99% of the time, they are kikes and the one percent of the the time they are white, they are hideous genetic trash like Lady Gaga, basically. Eugenics is about breeding healthy beautiful people, not hideous genetic freeks, white or not.
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>>9571
Whites are the product of eugenics and natural selection. Positive mutations were bred in. Negative and harmful traits were bred out during the stone age. We are not God's chosen people or any such magical, supernatural horse shit. We are the physical and biological limit of human evolution--that is a fact. And if we want to still exist within the next century so that humanity doesn't degenerate into brown savages, we need at least a small untouched white state. 

I do not even think the biggest barrier to our survival is cowardice. Yes, that is a factor. I am not gonna lie there. It is our constant infighting while our enemy gains ground. People want whites to live in an agrarian society, which is retarded. White society will be automated, it will be mechanized, and it will be technologically advanced. It will even use AI, as many are afraid to admit. 

We got to be pragmatists, not romanticists.
>>9572
>People want whites to live in an agrarian society, which is retarded. White society will be automated, it will be mechanized, and it will be technologically advanced. It will even use AI, as many are afraid to admit. 
No, that's the worst possible thing that could happen. I'm no primitivist either but the proliferation of technology needs to be reined in. Look at the state of the average person. People are becoming so stupid and complacent they ask Alexa or ChatGPT or whatever questions they could answer by picking up a book. Search engines were bad enough, but now people can't be bothered to do even that because they can just ask the AI. Moreover, excessive industrialization and automatization has made people soft and ignorant, you'd be hard-pressed to find an average person who knows how to sew a button or change a tire or even boil an egg. It's disgraceful how skills that were considered basic and common place are becoming increasingly rare because of all the banal comforts of modernity. I'm in favor of continuing the progress of technological development, but their availability should be curtailed in some way. People should have to do at least some manual work and cultivate their skills in a better world, otherwise it would be no different from our current banal consumerist hellscape. And AI would be restricted to industrial, scientific and military use, it wouldn't be a consumer product.

>We got to be pragmatists, not romanticists.
Wrong again. The pragmatic man would not fight against the current world because it would jeopardize his comfort and security. The romantic man fights against the current world because it's inimical and obscene to his spirit, regardless of risks or personal consequences, even if he has to fight alone.
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>>9573
<Romantic in spirit, pragmatic in action
Has described most great conquerors since the beginning of time.

I agree with you on AI and automation though. The push from the powers that be to have everything done by AI and robots is merely a tool to enhance their control, not a good-faith effort to make people's lives better. Being reliant on machines for everything like an invalid on life support will weaken and destroy a population. That's what the jews want, but not what we want.
>>9572
>It will even use AI
Current "AI" is a pump and dump scheme with little to no inherent value, there's a reason all megacorps push it on their users aggressively instead of quietly profiting from it.
Ah, and all the major AI companies are operating at a massive loss and spamming the media with doomposts to shill themselves as a necessary safety measure, if not outright faking everything and simply hiring a bunch of indians to then pass their work as "AI".

>>9573
>the proliferation of technology needs to be reined in
If you do that, you get outcompeted and wither away.
Just look at Russia for the most brutal example: if the best and brightest in your society aren't spending every work day improving how things are done, in a matter of two generations everyone will be stuck babysitting a failing system with no hopes of replacing it.
>Search engines were bad enough
Propose an alternative to orient yourself trough more text than one could read in a thousand lifetimes.
Yes, retards use them in retarded ways, and yes, censorship/manipulation is a big concern especially with how centralized the web has become, but to pretend Google was not a net positive overall is absurd.
>It's disgraceful how skills that were considered basic and common place are becoming increasingly rare
Because you know how to find the right kind of rocks, smash them together to make a pointy rock, then tie that pointy rock to the right kind of branch to make a good primitive spear, right?
The world has changed, adapt or die.
>People should have to do at least some manual work
People should not neglect any part of themselves, that includes physical exercise, but there's no sense in hiding that behind make-believe work.
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>>9572
>White society will be automated, it will be mechanized, and it will be technologically advanced.
This was without a doubt the most hellish, dystopian part of Warhammer.

You know, technology isn't culture. What exactly are you fighting for? (let's pretend you're fighting)
Say that 700 million White people die to preserve our race. What was it all for? So we could actually do what the jews wanted and obliterate everything that makes us unique and beautiful? To replace all that brings culture and happiness with technology?
What the fuck is the point of resisting globalism and jews if the end result is a cartoonish dystopia with no culture, no history, no traditions? Just bland technology.
Maybe you don't see it that way, that technology is merely incorporated into a real ideology, secondary, not central. But none of here are Luddites. 
What is your end goal for our race?
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>>9582
Culture is downstream from race and so is technology. A high trust society is a European genetic trait and without subhumanity, we would still practice our culture because it is in our nature. Even if it was largely forgotten about, our new culture would still be a  rough approximation to previous cultures in our history simply because of our genes. Likewise, our race would invent and innovate because we have the perfect balance of high intelligence and creativity. It's nature, pure and simple.

Magically increasing the subhuman races to match us in intellect would just create imitative subhumans like Chinks. It would not make them equals. IQ, creativity, and empathy are what makes us superior. Give a nigger an IQ of 140 and you just get a con man. You know, your typical kike basically.
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>>9592
TL;DR: I care about race more than culture and tech. All humans except small pockets of Whites could die tommorow and I would be happy knowing that our race and therefore our culture and our civilization are ultimately preserved.
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>>9593
>>9592
>I care about race more than culture and tech.
Good.
That said, I am motivated by the hope that eventually, we can live in an agrarian paradise with folk festivals and where children can grow up playing in the woods all day, free from the threat of kidnapping by mexicans and the suffocating fear of parents afraid of the same.
Every boy deserves the experience of running around in a mixed agrarian/woodland paradise. And growing up with rooted cultures steeped in history will imbue in him a profound love of his nation and race.
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>>9599
Girls too, I guess.
>>9571
You are in-fact a delusional pussy. I am probably one of our better fighters. "Swinging knives around like a kid". I am a cut above, not acknowledging that and where I have taken my blade work thus far. Natives will be kelargi'd like everybody else. I cannot get a job in America at all. One month search 8 hours a day comes up with nothing. Go throw a temper tantrum using the word 'schizo'. A loon's go to word to discredit somebody.
anything happen in the last year? i havunt been following the "news" leviathan. any acceleration? This is unrelated but I'm going to perform a penectomy on myself.
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>>9604
Post pics, faggot or its fake.
>>9604
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fuck off tranny
>>9604
Not much. An expected increase in mass immigration. More corruption and politicians sucking Jewish cock. True political opponents still being oppressed. Supposed peace talks between Ukraine and Russia being rubbish until Ukraine has been totally cut into pieces of private companies to buy at a discount. Jews have to hurry up, they need a third temple before 2029 so you shall expect even more blatant Semitism.
>>9571
You're being way too retentive. Understand that once victory is secured, it will be rather easy to spread the Northern DNA over many centuries and completely reverse this. But I agree eugenics. Lane said it anyway, these purity concerns are not the priority for now, these will be solved later, starting with future elites that will be muttproof.
>>9572
>We are not God's chosen people or any such magical, supernatural horse shit.
Rig would have a word with you.
>>9573
Yeah, a mandatory DIY course in pseudo-18th century social bubbles wouldn't hurt, and yes, that proliferation of screens and AI is shit and we don't need that.
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>>9517
>>9518
>I figured that this was impossible in Australia.
Update on socials is the shopping center released footage, turns out they showed up at 3:30am, took photos and left immediately so there wouldn't be police around to arrest them.
After getting ambushed by faggot antifaniggers when they tried to take photos down the road at Thornbury a while back, and that footage getting blasted on repeat by ((( MSM ))), the NSN are now building up carefully by doing early morning optics work like this. Slow and steady.
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>>9572
>Whites are the product of eugenics and natural selection. Positive mutations were bred in. Negative and harmful traits were bred out during the stone age.
Yeah yeah that's why there's no degenerate whites around these days. Retard.
>>9643
Their ancestors are smiling at them.
Andrew Anglin suicide note just dropped http://stormer5v52vjsw66jmds7ndeecudq444woadhzr2plxlaayexnh6eqd.onion/thank-you/
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>>9649
Kek, looks like someone guessed his password.
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>>9643
It reminds me of those pictures you can find of the IRA out with their rifles in the hills in broad daylight.
You know the authorities would have killed them if they saw them.
You know they kept their photo op secret.
You know they got away with it because you did not hear about it on the news.
It's a clever way of sending a message: We exist and we can show up anywhere. Here is proof.

Obviously there is no direct implication of violence in what NSN is doing, but it serves the same purpose
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>>9651
:-) probably used the words yellow and pussy, an AI did the rest.
>>9638
>You're being way too retentive. Understand that once victory is secured, it will be rather easy to spread the Northern DNA over many centuries and completely reverse this. But I agree eugenics. Lane said it anyway, these purity concerns are not the priority for now, these will be solved later, starting with future elites that will be muttproof.
Forget centuries. Take all the breakthroughs in genetic engineering technologies, then substract the diversity hires and pointless budget-padding waste. Put all that knowledge and all that technology to a useful, beneficial end. Inside a generation or two we could wipe out millennia of miscenegation, inbreeding and assorted genetic defects.
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>>9672
I'm weary of fiddling with genetics outside of the natural way so take this at the longest possible path then.
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>>9227
update! the name/domain will be fashfront.org (already registered)

For the forum software itself I am using simple machine forums. Most work ive done on the forum is just modifying the theme to look nice (difficult for me since im not familiar with php). SMF while a free software seems to work and look good enough for the time being. In the future however intend to upgrade to a paid service such as xenforo or invision community. Once I know the site has an active user base to make it worth it for me.

>>9235
>1: Setting up a TOR/I2P service in general.
I intend to do this.
>2: What will be the art direction, what tools will you be using and how will you get them?
See pic related. I used photopea so thanks for that.
>3: Proper vetting procedures.
I intend for account activation to be completely open in the beginning just to get people actually use the thing. I fear nobody will want to go through the effort to get access to a dead site. But once there is some activity, we will individually vet account creation.
>4: You actually understand your own worldview that your website is supposed to be about.
I think I have a solid grasp of things. The only problem is that I have yet to "do something" i.e further our cause anyway, which is why I'm making this site.

>>9243
The point would be to get people off of it. Sometimes broken tools are all you have.
>>9260
Local networking is a good idea, although personally, due to circumstances, I would not be able to do this. I would encourage others who want to help and trust the idea to do so, of course. >>9241
>contact the AF to promote your website.
I'll try. I saw they made a telegram post reminiscing about ironmarch awhile ago, so they might consider the idea. Other than that, I made a Twitter and a telegram.
>>9273
>>9274
>We are split across multiple spaces now.
A valid concern, though I mostly intend for this site to attract fascists/potential fascists who are currently atomized and don't actively engage seriously with a community. Another way this site will further our cause is a project I have planned called "generation zyklon" where the idea will be to coordinate making propaganda via memes and what not to spread to zoomers on places like insta reels and nigtok.
Will white Americans ever riot like the British and Irish?

Are things not bad enough yet? Is America too big for that sort of thing
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>>9691
It will begin in a state, then two. But most radicalized Whites need to experience the browning first. States that remain too Whites today don't know what they risk losing. They're having it too good.
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>>9693
I agree. I know too many people that live in majority White areas  that think we can all just get along and that everyone's just being bigoted because they never interact with browns or if they do it's a mixed person raised by a White Mother who grew up being the only colored in a 100 mile radius and learned to act properly around White people. I truly hope things can be resolved without this having to happen, but those people may not come around until they can experience what it's like to live around minorities firsthand. Thankfully, there are mostly conservative people in those areas who are more redpilled to the way things are.
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>>9693
>>9698
Once this all shakes out, I pray that every remaining White man has imbued within him a burning hatred for the eternal jew and what happens when they are allowed the reigns of power.
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>>9714
The Jew won't be so eternal.
>School ends in USA
>Israel attacks Iran
Coincidence?
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>>9734
What does this meeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaan...
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>>9734
>>9736
It means a bunch of highschool neonazis shitposted until the kikes  chimped out now that school is out as that increased their shitposting? Alternatively it means the US said "wait till our kids are safe at home so we can be together when the bombs hit you damned kikes, shit. Go ahead now you can do it". 
>>9691
The cops here are brutal so we don't riot anymore but used to get our way before they were as organizaed and militarized as they are in times past. Feminism would have never happened if it were tried today, all that blocking of the streets, they'd have been hit with microwaves, rubber bullets, high pressure water  jets, riot sticks, special acids and gases, etc.
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>>9737
>>9736
It means that now they can draft the 18 year olds to go die in Iran.
Well, maybe. I suspect that the US will bomb Persian airfields but this will not become WW3.
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>>9740
It only becomes WW3 if Russia or China join in. Iran itself is only a regional power.
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>>9741
What are some factors that might tip the scales into a proper no-holds-barred free-for-all.
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>>9742
China joins in on Iran's side. USA will put more pressure in the Chinese Sea, China might be goaded into besieging Taiwan and putting ships in such a way that the US would have to break a virtual blockade to help Taiwan.
Europe goes retarded and under NATO decides to destroy its own economy and its commercial ties to China in order to defend morals and virtues at the expense of anything else. But with limited capabilities it will above all invest in IA and new missile producing industries. A thing that helps us right now is that Europe doesn't have one big army yet and won't have any of it in the coming years unless it really amps up the recruitment, which won't work much until the conservatives really push the patriotic narrative against some yellow boogeyman or similar. Migrants won't give a shit even if money is promised after two years of service, so only the gullible right wing goyim will feel like they have a divine mandate to do something and die somewhere. We may not get a WW3 but we could see a lot of ((( stupid decisions ))) taken. I thin that Europe getting sacrificed in favor of a sliding of power towards the east is in the pipe anyway as far as the latest elites' program is concerned. USA will be more or less minding its own business with the Northern American tensions and may even go mild fash but still 200% Zionist because Israel still needs that backup more than ever.
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