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I think Orlog has either been vanned or is vacationing. Or hell, he could be too busy playing the Oblivion Remake. This place's PPH has gone to hell since that game released.
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>>9155
>european fantasy über game released
>nobody posts here anymore
Perhaps we should ask for more GTAs instead?
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>>9156
I'm homeless and noticed finding a job can take 20 interviews or so. We do need more GTA's and drill rap released.
>has anybody noticed when they advocate for direct action, essentially one of the few things, only one thing can save the White race?
     Others will attempt to de-radicalize those who are all for direct action?
       The three prongs are essential. Passive and direct. And front facing groups to face ZOG.
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Got a question for any /k/ommandos or adjacent anons out here. How does a round made of steel perform in relation to lead ones? 9x19, for example.
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>>9158
>How does a round made of steel perform in relation to lead ones?
Absolute shit. Steel is far too light. There is a reason that AP munitions have a penetrator core and are not simply made of hardened material.
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>>9157
Videogames are one of the most powerful forces holding back Revolution. Unironically.
>>9160
The real scourge is porn, no other vice comes close to its insidious nature and the catastrophic damage it's caused.
>>9159
For the same reason that at a higher scale, both in the Balkans and in Iraq, US forces used depleted uranium for the shells of its tanks because of its density. A totally overkill weapon in this case which was in fact secretly used to radioactively pollute these regions.
What do we have to say to Nationalist's, whom attempt to de-radicalize others? What's best sit here and do nothing? I desperately want to save the White race. De-radicalization of Whites will hamper any progress we can make. We meed more angry White men willing to fight. One coward said to me "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".  Then had the nerve to claim he is 'nee future'. Neu future do nothing.
>>9180
Also another said TKD might have been invented by jews, to make their opponents look unhinged.
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>>9181
>if you hate your enemies, they win
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>>9182
I was called a fed as well. What else is White man suppose to do? Every-time I see a nigger I wanna cut his throat. I want my White country back.
>>9180
>What do we have to say to Nationalist's, whom attempt to de-radicalize others?
"Press your back against the wall, please. Any last words?"
>>9180
Being a nationalist, especially an entho-nationalist will get you called "radical" by systemites anyway. If they claim to be nationalist but want to "de-radicalize" then they are conservatives, not nationalists.
>>9160
Video games in small quantities is fine, like reading fiction, but there is no small quantity of porn that's good enough.
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>>9195
Nationalist porn is fine
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>>9160
Fuck off anti-fun police, mudslime tier behavior is not White.
>>9195
>but there is no small quantity of porn that's good enough
mudslime
>>9196
Yeah, pornos like the polly blitz comics are the real deal. Not to mention orgies, whorehouses and gay clubs were often the meeting places of many White-Nationalist leaning/sympathising people. I met my girlfriend(A former prostitute) at the local druggie's place.
>>9155
Just hadn't logged in in a few days, was busy.
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>>9160
Fuck off, just because you're too retarded to use it as a propaganda tool doesn't mean that they are inherently bad.
Breivik used to train himself by playing Call of Duty thus improving his shooting skills while the NA also put second pic related out.
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Here IS actually one of the most powerful forces holding back Revolution.
It's Conspiracytardation and it overlaps with Derads with how much of an popular activity that it is among them.
But considering that one of the Conspiracyfags here admitted that his hero is WLP while promoting him, perhaps he should listen to him in video related. and take what he has to say because he also promoted Timothy McVeigh conspiracy.
Is grabbing a bag of salt, and salting the whole garden, in front of an apartment a good idea: Specifically done in the city of Seattle? Seems funny.
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>>9224
could be funny
>>9220
Ethnic Cleansing fucking sucked and so do all those "based" games you care to name. Message is not a substitute for quality, and if it's shit quality it will fail as propaganda. Simple as.
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For the past while, I have been working towards starting a new forum website dedicated to fascism/third position. Similar to that of the now gone ironmarch/fascistforge if anyone remembers those. Mainly because I feel like there is a lack of online spaces to actually seriously discuss these things. This place exists and its great for that, although it's pretty niche, and I'd want to create a place that's more active and can bring in a lot more of the newer generation of fascists that are stuck posting in shitholes like twitter. Also, I just much prefer the older style of internet forums compared to imageboards and social media.


So my questions are:


1. How would I attract people to the site in the first place? id shill it here for starters, but after that I'm kinda stumped since it is hard to get anyone to start posting on a site that doesn't have much content or accounts to interact with in the first place.


2. Whats a good name/domain name for the site? I feel kinda retarded for not having that figured out yet.


If anyone has any other general advice or questions let me know. I'll make this its own thread if people here are receptive to the idea.
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>>9227
Speaking of ironmarch though, I am just really fond of how they were able to create a lot of productivity in our movement. The creation and support of irl movements along with creating pdfs and infographics and what not. Lofty goal but I hope the internet community I intend to create can foster such productivity like this.
https://archive.org/search?query=creator%3A%22IronMarch%22&sort=-downloads
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>>9228
named groups are bad, it is leaderless resistance that works better
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>>9227
This is fantastic idea and this is coming from someone whom was in IM-adjacent circle a decade ago and even spoke to Slavros few times. I've been wanting to do this myself as well, but my only obstacle is coding and setting up TOR service for the forum, here is some advice on which you could do:
1: Setting up a TOR/I2P service in general.
2: What will be the art direction, what tools will you be using and how will you get them?
3: Proper vetting procedures.
4: You actually understand your own worldview that your website is supposed to be about.
On #1, I have no idea on what exactly would I need to export such an internet forum to hidden services like TOR. 
2# is easier done than said, The image you posted is created with Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator as I can tell and it depends if you are willing to use slightly sketchy pirated method of acquiring said software (Gen-P and M0nkrus) or if you're willing to pay money to use Adobe products. Slavros used Photoshop from M0nkrus since he is in Russia obviously, but if you are Western European/American and you want to pirate M0nkrus's Photoshop yourself, then feel free to watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9y29Wxo060
There's the free web clone option of Photopea, but pick what you would choose.
On #3, you will need to be careful when you are vetting people in, it is easy to spot and filter out Leftoid/Liberal infiltrators since you can deduce from how they speak, O9A/764 is a different entity to tackle with however so beware.
Check out https://web.archive.org/web/20170606032824/http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/forum/11-introductions/
$4 is self-explanatory.
>>9228
And I have this right here, it's not the full archive of Ironmarch material but it certainly fits for now, enjoy.
https://gofile.io/d/o1XHus
>>9231
Let's not pretend that leaderless resistance works perfectly, all of the groups in that image (with the exception of AWD) are European/Oceanian, the only reason for 'leadership resistance' is for places with the most centralized and strongest System activities like the US. Different strategies for different folks.
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>>9227
Cont.

1. You kinda said it so yourself that the newest generation of fascists are on Xitter so try shilling it there, BUT alternatively you could contact the AF to promote your website.
https://americanfuturist.net/submit-media/ (https://archive.ph/qyJoY)

2. Try "This Struggle" or "Iron Phalanx" or imagine something similar, it's ultimately up to you to choose what name you would like.
Look here for good domain registrars which Null used (and didn't get fucked with):
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/nulls-tier-list-for-internet-services.129513/ (https://archive.ph/CtdoA)
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>>9241
>using Shitter for any reason whatsoever
Are you a fed or just massively retarded?
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I am homeless bit am going to be trajning again soon. I only train live blade. I tis hard trainjjf when ur homeless. Thinking kf being the instructor for National Socislists. I train with machetes live as well. I close my eyes when traininf galf the time
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>>9180
You don't have to say anything to them. Anyone who's serious about doing something will just do it and never speak about it before or after.
>>9254
Damn you look scary as fuck in that video!
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>>9243
What do you propose instead? Surely (You) wouldn't suggest 4cuck as a actual option are you? One of the most aggressive fingerprinting ever to be implemented, Ninety-nine percent bots and shills. Bans VPNs and NO Onion service at all.
Shitter has an actual TOR service at least unlike 4cuck.
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>>9258
You could always recruit locally among people you know personally nd have a good read on, instead of using a publicly available social network that has been exposed time and time again for farming its users' personal information and collaborating with glowniggers. Just a thought.
>>9256
I'm Native and 1/4 White. I'd say download sayoc kali videos. I trained petiki tirsia kali.
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>>9264
Said I'm Native because a feather nigger jacked me earlier. My White blood makes me smarter and I should of stayed away from the native centre.  I'd recommend going to sayoc.org
>>9235
Your enthusiasm is commendable but you're dooming yourself to failure for the simple reason you're focusing on picking a cool logo, slogans and making online spaces to get together with the boys and talk about Fascism, etc.; rather than the stuff that actually matters, which is setting up operational doctrine, laying down opsec parameters, acquisition of useful tools, materials and weapons, training of skills useful in a military situation, and so on.
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>>9227
More spaces is always good keep us updated chad
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>>9227
>>9267
Is it? We are split across multiple spaces now. I'm not trying to shit on this idea, but I wonder what a new site would add to our struggle.
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>>9273
Unless it was in another obscure langauve and there was a need.
>>9266
You're implying these are mutually exclusive, these things naturally occur on their own, because the actual forum long time ago already disproved your argument.
t. lurked IM before it ever went down.
And beauty is everything, beautiful propaganda attracts more radicals than before, consider how you came into Fascism in the first place if not for the clean, professional militant appearance?
Brotip: Add a script to your site that makes it unusable if you have Javascript installed.
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>>9276
Also don't tell anyone. Let your fellow Fascists learn on their own to leave Javascript off unless strictly needed.
>>9196
>[insert variant] porn is fine
No. If you long for some kind of visual representation of women, only accept the erotic material.
But I wouldn't expect a current human to know the difference.
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grab the vid
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I joined a the telegram chat of a prominent WN podcast crew and it felt like a competition to be the biggest asshole in there. I can sort of understand why any normal person stopped participating in the e-right years ago. It's fucking AIDS and can only lead to burnout. I only care about tribe and training irl anymore
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>>9299
Nick Fuentes encourages a kind of absolute asshole behavior among his followers. It's actually very homosexual if you think about it.
If you admit that you're poor, instead of helping with mere advice, they mock you for it. It's typical faggot behavior. Yet somehow it's become ubiquitous in our culture.

Men complain that women have better support networks than men. That's true. So be kind to your fellow man. Stop trying to tear him down to make yourself feel superior. People complain that niggers, jews, and spics have better support networks than White people. That's true. So stop trying to tear other White men down. That's nigger behavior.
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>>9300
It wasn't even Fuentes, it was Achtung Amerikaner. These guys present themselves as normal Midwesterners but they're all autistic fatsos and blankets LARPing as revolutionary propagandists. It's really sad. The only good thing they do is platform people who actually change shit
>>9297
That figure given at the end of the video is nuts. I have a hard time believing it and it would be a good thing to know if it's sourced. I am not aware of how far race related statistics are produced in Europe but if that number is real then it's not even just grim, it's simply for all intents and purposes over. Over as Belgium is lost. I'll be cautious with this because again it sounds way too crazy, perhaps it's not the whole of Belgium but just one single county or city and the author just messed up, which although distressing, would still help putting this into perspective. I understand that it is a small country though so it's easier to ruin it entirely and that fast when a given policy is applied wholesale to an entire territory of such a modest size.
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>>9299
Not wanting to sound like a leftist but would you say that they are nurturing a toxic culture on purpose? That's quite cultish, it keeps the unclean out while helping break people when inside because everyone must be a piece of absolute shit to his peers so that it maintains an internal level of distrust.
I think most right wing movements devolved into personality cults even before the Internet, but not being accountable to people irl definitely makes it easier to be a dick to them for no reason. The webcomic Penny Arcade called this the "greater Internet fuckwad theory"

I want to contribute to the movement so bad but I have no idea what to do other than write online, which no one will probably read thanks the the censorship these days. There are no active clubs in my state, patriot front is dying, and everything else is rural. There's really nothing for city-bound right-wingers to do in this country except moneymaxx and take care of themselves. Maybe donate to the few worthwhile projects that do exist, or try to buy some land in Whitopia.

It's just weird that the best way of doing politics ironically seems to be not doing politics at all, at least above the local level. Fuentes was right
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>>9306
The statistic is from Brussels alone, and White Europeans count into that 84% figure of "non-Belgian. Even European half Belgians, as in Belgian mother French/Italian/German father.
If you narrow it down to non-Whites, it's more like
<35% of under 18s in Brussels are non-White.
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>>9320
You can take direct action. Don't listen to Spic Fuentes. You sit there talking about joining politicians. You can literally kill kikes. High level politicians families sit there, well their husband or wife, goes to Washington, that's your time to strike. Get a 3d printer and kill kikes and White race traitors. Destroy infrastructure. Total societal collapse is our objective.. Than we rebuild after. This is the way. As a futurist. This is the path of a neu future fascist. Burnt ground is our new idealogy. None of this quoting or listening to Fuentes. Become a White jihadist. That symbol I drew is my guiding light.
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>>9322
Joining politics* I would recommend downloading all of AWD's pdfs; very comprehensive. Become a freedom fighter. You will have to get used to the idea, of killing kikes and race traitors. Kill their children as well, In minecraft that is.
They want to eliminate ours as well. They have made this apparent with the Kelargi plan. In order for White man to win this war. You have to be willing to eliminate a kikes family, so when he comes home from the synagogue. He cannot believe his eyes, and wants to commit suicide. His child is dead, his mother was slain. His whole family is literally extinct. You can burn the bodies after. Enough of this 'political solution' none-sense. Hitler was able to become chancellor, than Fuhrer. Because Germany was still White. America is brown. We are not to become politicians, or even create  a National Socialist party of America. We are to destroy, eliminate. Execute. Then the next generation can build. You have to understand this, if you actually intend to save the White race. Otherwise you are wasting your time and energy. Blow up a courthouse. Shoot it up. Kill a judge even. Shoot his family to death. Write a swastika in blood on their walls. Our terror shall be encompassing. There will be no where for these faggots to hide. Take this approach, then White children shall have a future. Sieg heil!
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>>9323
What's the weather like in Langley? I didn't read your post btw
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>>9324
Fuck off pussy.
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>>9325
Keyboard warrior. I hope you get raped by niggers in prison, and that's assuming you ever do anything you fucking faggot
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>>9329
go protest or something. Act like that does anything.
>>9324
He's right, opticuck faggot.
Voote harder. the zionist controlled opposition will totally save us, right?
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>>9337
No no guise, guise, join Patriot Front today and go on marches and put up fliers and do nothing else for years! That's totally gonna save the white race!
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>>9338
I'd prefer if they marched to a synagogue and burnt it down to a crisp. I bet that person trying to de-radicalize is a PF guy.
The rest of you Atomfaggots should convert to Islam like your buddy and blow yourselves up. It would suit you better than doing something that actually benefits whites
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>>9343
Vooooooote harder retarded faggot
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>>9345
Agreed. If all of us don't take direct action. White people will have to hide away, far away from society and live in caves. All the muds and niggers, have already made it clear. White man has been wiped out before I believe. Cannot let this line of Whites die off. Whites are the last noble race. I keep telling these faggot's burnt ground is our new ideology.
The reason that calls to violence are stupid LARP is we have no organization to sustain it or take advantage of the power vacuum which would result even if we had 50,000 perfectly distributed rebels who all knew exactly when and were to strike which is already an unprecedented miracle to achieve.

Without organization, even if it's only glorified social clubs, then miraculously eliminating the ruling class would only lead to some other band of jews taking over. The entire scenario is just silly in the extreme. It's magical thinking by autists who either cannot fathom the level of coordination it would take or have given up on coordination because they can't understand interpersonal relationships and cannot envision cooperating with anyone.
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>>9349
You do not know what you're talking about. It took a few thousand communists under Trotsky and his comrades to eat at a weaken Russian nobility and seize Moscow.
We obviously need to have a plan and assuming we go that far and succeed in our urban coup, we have to put men in control of all the medias ASAP, into the banks too, and make sure the army and the police are now under severe control or at least sufficiently disorganized or neutralized to be manageable until they're taken over by going for the leaders, most of whom are traitors anyway. Wait for a short week for things to settle and try to make things look nice to people, but then proceed with purges as fast and violently as possible within the next two weeks. Nearly all politicians, journalists, judges, top staff for governmental offices and major private companies. For example you'd have to behead the libs and faggots at Apple and Amazon.
50,000 men would be a fabulously large force for a coup in most White nations mate.
In the United States you may seize one medium state and its city plus satellite smaller states in the East and some significant lands in top Midwest where the population density is so low that it would be a clean victory. We would gather a lot of support here and assuming you'd be not wasting time, the US ZOG would have no choice but attempt something like an immediate armed response, which would trigger a civil war and help bring the country down, or at least weaken it enough so that it could not project its forces internationally anymore. Yeah, you wish we had that many combat ready fit and ready in any major White nation.
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>>9321
>35% of under 18s in Brussels are non-White.
Okay. Well, it reminds me of the crazy statistics I once read about, wait, I think it was London, or maybe Paris? I can't be sure because these are territories where such data is totally censored by the jews IIRC. It was like half of the people being given birth in that wider urban area were of non-white origin, whether these people were mixed or not. All in all it gives the feeling that some cities are simply lost. I'm not seeing any revolution happening tomorrow so those trends will keep going on for the worse.
>>9349
>inb4 this faggot shills for cucktriot front for the millionth time
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Patriot Front sucks. It will never seize power, and probably fizzle after the 2028 election cycle. However, it seems like the only way to meet based people in the US right now aside from sheer chance. I don't go to churches because I hate Christians. And a lot of active clubs are secretly controlled by Patriot Front anyway

Gatekeeping white nationalism behind seejtardery is the easiest way to ensure well-adjusted people never join the movement, and trust me, we have enough antisocial types as it is
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There's been some retweeting going on about a recent "big" event in France, some Patriot Front like movement that even had people from other groups. Is there any better information on this? Is this jews infiltrating these movements and letting some pressure off to keep most people voting?
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>>9355
This is not a "white nationalism" board, this is the Fascist/NS board.
You have more in common with liberals and communists than with us.
But then again you wouldn't be a PF shill in the first place if you actually understood our worldview at all.
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>>9224
Dealing with evil spirits or something?
>>9367
It is logical that there would be a strong liberal form of White Nationalism but I think it reeks off of too much libertarianism, an overall fuzzy grouping of ideas that more or less advocate for moving back a few steps, said steps measured in half centuries. The liberalism itself implies a certain amount of weakness.
Usually, a free White America from the 19th then put on better rails. Americans have a cultural aversion to statism. But we can also easily forget that an excess of control and law is not only not necessary but also poisonous and the traits of tyranny. We are so badly educated about Italian Fascism that we fail to properly understand how it was organized and what it required from people, organizations and companies. Usually we tend to assume the worst, that it was overbearing when in truth it was rather weak as for one thing, it failed to purge all the traitors because it believed quite naively that the sanctimonious purity of its superior ideals would convert everyone to its cause, even its staunchest enemies.
The comparison to communism on the other hand is really a stretch and perhaps one should not forget whence Mussolini himself came. As for the NSDAP sometimes, if you didn't pay attention and ran with half truths, it superficially seemed so close to communism that trolling journalists wouldn't hesitate to pester Goebbels about it. But as I said, it was superficial and argued in bad faith by the opposition. Therefore, I'm failing to understand why you try to make that kind of comparison.
You say this board is not one of White Nationalism but I disagree, it's been that way for a long time now and I think Orlog himself put it that way. We use would we find in a fascism that is not oriented towards the protection of our people? Of the nation as a people, the White people?
I have also listened to Zeiger's speech and I agree, White Nationalism as is for now seems to have been coopted to put us in a similar feminine mindset of constantly a victimhood status, so we're all engaged in the same race with Jews, with blacks, with feminists, with homosexuals, with transsexuals, etc. Even Christians try from time to time to prop up the martyrdom narrative. While it is useful to an extent to remind our people that we too are under constant assault and we are not allowed to even discuss it or complain about it, it should not lead us to seek recognition from the system as another oppressed group. If only for the fact that we will never get the full extent of that status anyway. A fight against racism, no matter the colour nor whence it comes, is of no use to us. It is in fact a good thing that non-Whites are racist. It's only only healthy but it helps us in maintaining a separation but us and them. We would be in a far worst situation if they wanted to merge with us with abandon. Now Zeiger talks about Stromfront. This website is but a shadow of itself. VNN is the place that we should talk about if we think of a forum. Linder pretty much agrees that action, thus violence, is the way. And as he said himself, the only way is through the Jew.

Now let me quote David E. Lane.
>37th Precept
>That race whose males will not fight to death to keep and mate with their females will perish. Any White man with healthy instincts feels disgust and revulsion when he sees a woman of his race with a man of another race. Those, who today control the media and affairs of the Western World, teach that this is wrong and shameful. They label it “racism.” As any “ism,” for instance the word “nationalism,” means to promote one’s own nation; “racism” merely means to promote and protect the life of one’s own race. It is, perhaps, the proudest word in existence. Any man who disobey these instincts is anti-Nature.

>The second-guessers feel they are qualified to criticize Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich. They should be aware that the leaders of the Reich were prisoners of geographical nationalism. Germany had been raped by the Versailles Treaty; anti-Polish and anti- French feelings were unavoidable. The two-front war was, also, unavoidable, since the Soviets were amassing millions of troops for a sneak attack on Germany. In the final analysis the Teutonic people of central Europe, now called Germans, were simply performing their ancient role as defenders of the White race in our European homeland.
>Against overwhelming odds of 10:1 in population, 100's to one in land area and 1,000's to one in resources, they were magnificent!

>What about a voting pool today if someone thinks it is possible to vote for White territories or states? First remove from the possible converts all who have someone in their family who has already mated with coloreds. The vast majority of White families have a sister, daughter, son, aunt, cousin, or whatever, mated to a non-White. They will usually support the interest of the mixed-race offspring over racial survival.
>But, let us assume optimistically that 10% of the population has no family members who have mixed. From that 10% we must cull perhaps half who are under the thrall of Judeo-Christianity and its race-mixing fanatics, like the Pope, like Jerry Falwell, like Pat Robertson. At least 99.99% of all who call themselves Christian deny their own race with fanatical passion. This leaves a pool of perhaps 5% from which to draw recruits. But from that 5% we must cull virtually all so-called "educators," virtually all who are wealthy, government employees, federal agents, politicians, lawyers, bankers, most of the military, cowards, fence-sitters, the greedy, the ignoble, the druggies, the drunks, the media whores, social workers, virtually all who draw checks from the government and all levels of police. Now you see why it is so hard to recruit large numbers into our alleged movement. As always, forever and always, revolutions come from the totally disenfranchised. In this age the disenfranchised are almost exclusively young, White males.

>From the facts alone one might be forgiven for concluding that there is no hope. But, that is not the case. However, we must consider our resources when formulating a plan. And we must fight smart, that is, cunning. Much of the literature disseminated within the "movement" over the last few decades calls for courage and heroism. That is fine if combined with wisdom and cunning. Unfortunately, our "leaders" have been prone to sending young, idealistic men off to be cannon fodder. A wise man does not paint a target (swastika) on his chest and dare the government to react.

>In the eyes of the system we are already criminals, simply because we resist genocide. In truth, the criminal system which rules over us is fueled by money. Let us not abandon the life line of all movements simply because the pursuit of money is the joy of Judah. Sometimes war is action other than guns or swords. In World War II Aryans killed Aryans, and Jews with money conquered the world. Materialism in the heart is not Aryan, but money is the gasoline for the engines of war. Dirty hands and a pure heart are not mutually exclusive. Victory goes to the cunning first, then to the brave.
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> It took a few thousand communists under Trotsky and his comrades to eat at a weaken Russian nobility and seize Moscow.
Yes. Impressive organization. You forgot to mention the many thousands more in the military, bureaucracy, in industrial zones, and out in the critical areas of the country all working for the same goal. Organization is strength.

>We obviously need to have a plan and assuming we go that far and succeed in our urban coup, we have to put men in control of all the medias ASAP, into the banks too, and make sure the army and the police are now under severe control or at least sufficiently disorganized or neutralized to be manageable until they're taken over by going for the leaders, most of whom are traitors anyway. 
Allow me to analyze this sentence.
>We
There is no "we" at the moment. There is only atomized individuals who argue with each other on the internet. Such a "we" cannot decide anything or do anything or accomplish anything. We need organization, like the communists had.
>We ...need to X, Y, & Z
This is always as far as "planning" gets due to our total lack of organization and power. Random, atomized individuals talking about the magical "We" that accomplishes things. That we is organized White men. Yes, like Patriot Front, who have done more for White people in a week than >>9353 and >>9355 have done their entire lives.
>...to have a plan...
Random atomized individuals have no plans. YOU might have a plan. But so long as we remain weak and disorganized, with no leaders and no units, there are no plans. Just suggestions that always fail to accomplish a single thing because ALL plans worth doing require many men working together.
>we... succeed in our urban coup
Random complainers terminally online will never stage any kind of coup. You need to appreciate that you are so weak right now, you are weaker than women. Literally, women have far more organizations than you do. There are almost ZERO pro-White organizations and as a result, we have zero rights and zero power.
Want to stage a coup? We need organization first.
Also, urban coup? What does that even mean? Marching into a city, even Washington DC, would not lead to a pro-White government. It'd be awesome, but we would need actual, real, non fictitious pro-White organizations that actually do things in the real world to seize political control across many institutions. 
>we have to put men in control of all the medias ASAP
Organization. Needed.
> make sure the army and the police are now under severe control
Another thing requiring White men to be organized.

In conclusion: What I said was correct. Organization is needed to achieve anything. Organization is needed to avoid racial extermination. Every other race is organized. Even faggots, trannies, and furries are organized. There is only one group on planet earth that refused to get organized: White people.
And it is not entirely the jews fault. It is our fault. Because we are riddled with retards who call everyone a fed or insist that all political organization is counter-revolutionary, whilst sitting on their ass doing nothing.
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>>9372
It's good that you quote David Lane, but you had missed his first and most important part. That which he ever said:
1. Any religion or teaching which denies the Natural Laws of the Universe is false.
Racialism divorced from Fascism will not save you,  you are simply returning to an time and standard where everyone simply just didn't believe niggers were even human at all. Look up the White Australia Policy and the statements by Canadian MP Boulay condemning the migration of kikes, chinks and pajeets. See how it all ended by time because Liberalism is not meant to be Racialist at all.
Liberalism is not bad because it lets niggers in, it is bad because of ITSELF. It is FALSE and precisely what is false will doom us all to oblivion. There is no salvation outside Absolute Truth. Everything else is entropy.

"White Nationalism" as the American phenomenon only acknowledges racial-Truth while completely disregarding everything (starting from Absolute-Truth, societal Truth, familial Truth, biological-sexual Truth, personal Truth), it's why Zeiger called it "Liberalism with Racialism added".
So how did this "strong liberal form of White Nationalism" ended up like a deflated balloon when pressure is applied to it from our enemies?
>Usually, a free White America from the 19th then put on better rails. Americans have a cultural aversion to statism. But we can also easily forget that an excess of control and law is not only not necessary but also poisonous and the traits of tyranny. 
COVID-19 put that to the test and it turns out millions of your supposed "statist-averse" Americans actually don't mind doing what the State tells them to do. Your average person isn't the "Rational Actor" you think they are, they are still mammals operating on the laws of biology. Look up Milgram experiment and Joe versus Elan School and you will see why Dr. Pierce hypothesized the Lemming Condition. The problem is not the method or what you would call "excess of control and law". It's what the Enemy believes in and what makes them so dangerous not just for our race but for all of Nature itself.
It's not the guns themselves being the problem, it's the people behind that are pulling the trigger on them as to speak.
>We are so badly educated about Italian Fascism that we fail to properly understand how it was organized and what it required from people, organizations and companies. Usually we tend to assume the worst, that it was overbearing when in truth it was rather weak as for one thing, it failed to purge all the traitors because it believed quite naively that the sanctimonious purity of its superior ideals would convert everyone to its cause, even its staunchest enemies.
I would agree that you are under-educated on the whole subject, however this is not due to failure from the Worldview, but rather the character of the leader and his insufficient understanding of said Worldview which reflects on his own policies. It was a gradutal process for Mussolini and he already viewed race-mixing between Italians and Ethiopian niggers as evil, no doubt he would come to the conclusion of Total Kike Death if Germany won WW2.
>The comparison to communism on the other hand is really a stretch and perhaps one should not forget whence Mussolini himself came.
The difference is that Mussolini actually came to the conclusion that what he believed in ultimately did not line up with Truth, so he discarded all Liberal and Marxist notions of his previous mental conditioning and adapted it to fit his new Worldview. The "White Nationalists" go the other way around and they'll try to chop and change National Socialism to fit what they already believe in.
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>if you didn't pay attention and ran with half truths, it superficially seemed so close to communism that trolling journalists wouldn't hesitate to pester Goebbels about it. But as I said, it was superficial and argued in bad faith by the opposition. Therefore, I'm failing to understand why you try to make that kind of comparison.
Superficially sharing the appearance close enough to communism /=/ sharing it's core. The comparison of WN and Communism is not because of secondary economics like planned economy, it is in fact Total, Stateless, Classless Equality that is the essence of Communism.
Many WNs promote exactly that but for White People™ only. They just wouldn't admit it openly.
If you were around back an decade ago, you would remember people like Richard 'Dickie' Spencer, being the poster-boy for most American WNs. He is exactly the classical Derad mocked on here. He promoted feminism, "Implicit" faggotry and sodomy and even Judaism while attacking particularist ethno-nationalists in favor of mystery-mutt pan-European racial egalitarianism. It's even funnier that due to his wife, he was in circles with Nazbols and Duginists which only validates the comparison and makes it into the most literal sense.
>You say this board is not one of White Nationalism but I disagree, it's been that way for a long time now and I think Orlog himself put it that way.
The existence of "White Nationalism" contradicts National Socialism/Fascism's total monopoly over any 'racialist' outlook and being their ultimate logical conclusion. The only reason it exists is confusion and so that it makes it easier for various people with certain agendas to subvert and make NS bend to their agendas, not theirs to NS.
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>What use would we find in a fascism that is not oriented towards the protection of our people? Of the nation as a people, the White people?
What use would we find in extremely-vague and ill-defined "racialist" unifier that would instantly dissolve soon as more people put more critical thought onto what exactly happens after their end-goal is finalized?
Read on what Hitler had to say on pic related.
And besides, you don't need "White Nationalism", you already have American Futurism which stands in respect to their forefathers and acquaintances and being more detailed and principled to prevent all the endless debates about if niggers, faggots and kikes are good enough or not.
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>>9374
>You forgot to mention the many thousands more in the military, bureaucracy, in industrial zones, and out in the critical areas of the country all working for the same goal. Organization is strength.
They were as many on the other side, so they balanced each other out. It's Trotsky's men who did the difference when Russia was plunged into chaos. They had a clear plan when the others had none. They were prepared (althoug they almost missed the mark), the others improvised a reaction.
Most of your post is a reply to a point I never made, that we would supposedly already have a well rounded organization already in a state of being capable of fighting at any moment now. I wouldn't even see the point of pretending we could achieve anything without organized forces. What we must accept is that our task will be far more difficult than it was for the whole far-right of 1920 in Germany, because contrary to the Germans and their newfound leader who was paid by the army to deliver anti-communist speeches, we don't have much support and certainly nothing coming from the government. There will be a certain quantity of Whites more or less in agreement with us but they will never be able to reach the highest levels without a coup.
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I'm too drunk and it's too late here in Yurop to write a proper critic in response, but you, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.
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>>9377
I happen to be something of an expert on Dickie.
>If you were around back an decade ago, you would remember people like Richard 'Dickie' Spencer, being the poster-boy for most American WNs. He is exactly the classical Derad mocked on here. He promoted feminism, "Implicit" faggotry and sodomy and even Judaism while attacking particularist ethno-nationalists in favor of mystery-mutt pan-European racial egalitarianism. It's even funnier that due to his wife, he was in circles with Nazbols and Duginists which only validates the comparison and makes it into the most literal sense.
First of all, Spencer only began promoting feminism and sodomy in late 2019 when his lawyer for the Charlottesville trial abandoned him for lack of payment and it then became clear to Spencer that he was going to lose the trial and be found liable for organizing the rally, and he certainly was objectively responsible for that. He consistently advertised and promoted the Charlottesville rally. Nevertheless, he could not accept his own accountability so he scapegoated the little army he had been building since 2010 by throwing them all under the "incel" bus. This was not a cheap legal trick, this was a deep psychological mental complex that hit him. Ever since then he has been obsessed with incels, associates all  far-right activity of any kind with inceldom, and build his "Apollonian" religion as essentially an anti-incel Satanist inside-joke for those who still hug his nuts. 
Spencer was almost certainly a Russian intelligence asset as far back as 2010. He had multiple appearances on RT. However, none of that really has any bearing on his post-2019 incel obsession. All of that comes from Charlottesville and he supports Ukraine not for Ukraine but because he portrays ZOG/Israel as eugenic force that will kill off whites. For Spencer, the fewer whites, the better. He is essentially a spiteful mutant gone insane and as such is functionally anti-white. His guilty verdict at the trial literally broke his mind and he is now psychologically incapable of objectivity. Everything is based on resentment of his former followers and associates.
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>>9381
>His guilty verdict at the trial literally broke his mind and he is now psychologically incapable of objectivity. Everything is based on resentment of his former followers and associates.

All that huff and puff, and he crumbled at the first real threat, whereas many revolutionaries (of all stripes) would consider a prison sentence a revolutionary's baptism.
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>>9382
>whereas many revolutionaries (of all stripes) would consider a prison sentence a revolutionary's baptism.
It's a bad mentality to have in current year, however. At least for any modern-day Fascist.
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>It's a bad mentality to have in current year, however.
Infinitely better than being a narcissistic, spineless faggot like Dickie Spencer.

Who is his successor, btw, Nicholas Fuentes? He seems smarter than Dickie, I'll give him that, but somehow I doubt his ability to withstand pressure when feds threaten him for real.
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>>9386
You're not understanding me. It's bad from an operational standpoint because there's so few of us, each one that goes to prison or dies is lost. A fascist in prison is a fascist that can't do anything and is out of play. It's bad from a motivational standpoint because guys thinking they'll get street cred or whatever for going to the pen will get a rude awakening when they get shoved into genpop with Jamal, Paco and all their merry friends. Or if they're deemed an actual threat by the System, they'll be subjected to all sorts of torture to make them flip and give away everything they know, which will endanger any other Fascists out there. Even if the worst doesn't happen and they just spend a few months' stretch in a cell, they're a known quantity and likely they will be put under surveilance, which will complicate future operations. To put it bluntly, a Fascist going to prison constitutes a failure for him and for the cause, it's not a source of bragging rights. It's nothing to aspire to. 

>Oh, but it won't be that bad because bla bla bla
How the fuck do you know that? Why would you ever assume "it won't be so bad"? Why are you banking on the best case scenario happening to you? This isn't a fucking game, it's a fight for our very survival as a race. Anyone who wants to pick up the Fascist cause has to act accordingly. Don't. Get. Caught.

>Spencer
Either he was a grifter from the beginning, or an intelligence asset all along. Doesn't matter, he deserves to die either way.

>Fuentes
Who cares? He's a homosexual mutt and a grifter. He deserves to die.
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>>9387
Yet if you cuck, you lose as well. 
>>9386
Who is his successor, Nicholas Fuentes?
Yes, that is how history played out. Dickie humorously went crawling back to Fuentes in 2023 to try and catfish some of Nick's underage followers after threatening to beat Fuentes in a drunken rant in 2018. 

One thing I learned after eons in "the movement" is that you can never trust a bourgeois, which constitutes the social class of 99% of these shitty e-celebs.
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>>9388
You can trust the disenfranchised White male. Poor and unemployable. Trust those whom have dropped, out of the system irrevocably. Why would we trust those in a better situation, where their finances and their lives are a complete, juxtaposition to ours is insane. Breaks under pressure and becomes a turn coat. I went to prison before, I dislike what an earlier poster said about prison. It is to be avoided st all costs.
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>9388
>Yet if you cuck, you lose as well. 
That's why you don't get caught. If you don't get caught, you won't be interrogated and you won't have to cuck out. DON'T GET CAUGHT.

>>9389
This man gets it. The big challenge is that without a sense of racial camaradeire, without a strong espirit de corps, the average White man only has his material belongings and maybe his family in his soul. The average middle class White is too comfortable with the status quo to even challenge it. Doesn't matter if the niggers riot every day, doesn't matter if used heroin needles crunch underfoot every time they walk down the dilapidated trash-strewn streets, doesn't matter that politicians and academics are openly advocating for their disenfranchisement and extermination. As long as they have their cookie cutter suburban home, their car, their business, their beer, their beer, their sportsball, they will not do a single thing. They're simply too afraid of losing their creature comforts to ever act, even in defense of their very lives.

Fuck's sake, you'll be surprised just how many otherwise smart, moral, level-headed people would rather let a nigger mug them or break into their homes and cross their fingers the nigger won't rape or kill them on a whim because they're just that afraid of getting in trouble with the law (and thus losing their creature comforts) for the crime of defending their lives and the lives of their families. Don't ever believe this only happens in blue states or no-guns countries. And contrary to the common belief, blue-collar Whites are usually no better. They're too preoccupied with holding on to what little they still have that they will refuse to act and buy into any desperate self-delusion that this or that politician will fix everything to lift a finger in defense of their own, let alone something as abstract (to them) as "the White Race".

That's why mass-appeal recruitment drives and big-tent politics are doomed to failure, because it doesn't matter if you recruit ten thousand men when not a single one of them will do anything besides token gestures like handing out flyers or going on marches. And don't get me started on party politics and elections. It's magical thinking and "let someone else do it" with extra steps. 

It's as >>9389 said, and many of our predecessors (Commander Rockwell, Dr. Pierce, James Mason, even Hitler himself) were all in agreement. When you're part of a marginalized, despised, disenfranchised minority that those in power hate and want to destroy, you go and recruit those who are completely alienated by the system. A thousand fat soft-bellied boomers will never do fucking shit, nor will a thousand affluent middle-class weekend fascists with tiki torches, but a guy who refuses to play into the Jewish hamster wheel that is our work-taxes cycle and refuses to buy into the suffocating banality and pointlessness of modern life is someone that will follow you into Hell itself.
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>>9379
>They were as many on the other side, so they balanced each other out.
>They had a clear plan when the others had none. 
Yes.

>Most of your post is a reply to a point I never made
I apologize. You said that I was wrong but the central premise of most of my posts is that we need to organize and do it quickly before we are a minority.

>There will be a certain quantity of Whites more or less in agreement with us but they will never be able to reach the highest levels without a coup.
According to a poll taken in 2017, about 10% of Americans "support alt-right positions"
We may presume that this is virtually entirely White while the sample size is not (if it was, they would have specified this), so the actual number is 20%.
If this is even close to accurate, far more White men would join us if they saw us as strong. The issue is that we appear and are weak. 
As for a coup, I suspect that the percentage of generals with "alt-right views" is about 0% so if we do seize power, it will need to be via a revolution, not a coup. We're in a position where our views are popular among the masses (especially when separated from symbols of 1940s Germany and presented as-is. We all know this is true whether we like it or not) but virtually absent among the nobility. Jews and rich goyim. Even communists had support from the upper echelons of the Russian aristocracy. We have none.
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>>9389
>>9388
https://www.bitchute.com/video/phMZhuYGnp2F/
Relevant Dr. Pierce words on the subject.
>>9396
>According to a poll taken in 2017, about 10% of Americans "support alt-right positions"
The number is already low, but when we consider what the alt-right is how it's been largely railroaded into fighting for racial blindness, in the end it's all pathetic.
>We may presume that this is virtually entirely White while the sample size is not (if it was, they would have specified this), so the actual number is 20%.
You arbitrarily bump this to 20% from where I stand. What is your detailed logic behind this ripe claim?
>If this is even close to accurate, far more White men would join us if they saw us as strong. The issue is that we appear and are weak.
Yup. I know how our situation is shitty and Lane made it clear more than twenty years ago already.
I honestly do not know how to trigger racial instincts in people. The jewish spell is strong. We are missing something, I will keep looking for the key to unlock this mystery.
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>>9376
>It's good that you quote David Lane, but you had missed his first and most important part. 
The 37th Precept formerly cited already strongly and clearly established the importance of race and racism and obviously implied that nationalism isn't enough since it merely covers the interest of a nation, which within this context would not be a strong enough definition without precisely the racial element. The same Precept even reminds what stands against Nature. You should read is again and pay more attention.
>See how it all ended by time because Liberalism is not meant to be Racialist at all.
I don't even know where you're going with this because it would really be a laughably broken appreciation of the man's works to think that a liberal would ever positively cite Lane. He has always supported a revolution, first of the mind, then action.
I also had another quotation in mind but I couldn't find it.
>COVID-19 put that to the test and it turns out millions of your supposed "statist-averse" Americans actually don't mind doing what the State tells them to do. 
Sheeple will be sheeple. News at 11.  Let's forget the people who hated this but had to cave in, and those who managed to avoid the clot shot. This changes nothing to the fact that at large the major figures of American White Nationalism often sneer at socialism and fascism, largely because these were the enemies of America during the second world war and it tainted everything. These people landed into White Nationalism through the door of American conservatism, and that's being generous when not assuming they're controlled opposition. I'd even assert that most pro-White Americans who would rather see the entire government disintegrate into many pieces if push came to shove, then allowing them to be racist and dicking around at the county level, than turn into a true pro-White fascist apparatus encompassing most of today's USA.
Fascism only thrives in countries that have a historical culture of very strong centralized regimes that almost resound like variants of past monarchies without however becoming true ones because the focus is on the state and doesn't derive (much) from family oriented struggles for power. It's a hard sell to American Whites. Aside from their provocative Hitler posts every once in a while, I don't know what most of them really want. If you were to look at /pol/ for the last ten years, it's not indicative of more radicalized people even wishing for fascism. They almost never give a fuck about Mussolini.
>>9377
You're explaining communism, not legitimizing the bizarre equivalency you made. Say what you wish of White Nationalism in America but it's certainly not communism because it acknowledges and defends both the racial reality and the private property, both of which are denied by communism. It certainly doesn't suffice, but at least on these two points there is no disagreement possible.
When I speak of this board being WN I mean the right version of WN, the complete one that has a radical take on politics and economy and eschews liberal positions.
You also attack WN but you seem to forget that it's been infiltrated and veered off course on purpose. The same could happen with fascism, and no later than tomorrow some Jews could begin promoting their own version that puts obedience to Jews above anything else curtailing any attempt at injecting White racialism into this modern American fascism. A radical civic nationalism in other words, with a slightly renewed American economy and a sufficient reduction of the freeloading portion of the population to keep the ball rolling long enough in America, even if in a dimmed manner all things considered, while Europe sinks into a brown sea. I believe there even is a Trump contingency plan that includes such a shift. One could argue that these first steps have already been made visible, with the patriotic good nigger, the good latrino, etc.
>Spencer
For all intents and purposes, a duplicitous agent.
>>9385
The less inmates on our side the better. Prison neutralizes us and in certain cases can turn into a trap with lengthening sentences and increased lethality.
The stakes are too high for us contrary to beaners and niggers who won't lose much going behind the bars for a while.

>>9386
>Infinitely better than being a narcissistic, spineless faggot like Dickie Spencer.
It's like saying that salted shit tastes better than shit cut with brick and plastic. Come on, Dick Sponsor isn't even worth a comparison.
>Nicholas Fuentes
Degenerate as far as I know. He grows his little cult and is not serious in the slightest. He likes to be super provocative on stupid specific topics.

>>9389
>You can trust the disenfranchised White male. Poor and unemployable. 
Not necessarily since they can be in need of money and may accept anything. People who have something to lose and are seeing being in risk of losing it no matter what could better understand why there is a need to fight. A disenfranchised man for example may have been so poor as to never get a wife and have no offspring. Yet in ancient times, notably in Greece, it's the men who had a family who were picked for the battle ranks because they precisely had something to lose, especially if they didn't make it. It proved to be very motivating and made them better fighters. This is why the doom posting should be a core part of the propaganda, to show that if nothing is done, the house will be plundered and burn, the wife and daughter will be raped, the business will close or be destroyed, that there is no possible decent humane life possible in the future conditions. The propaganda really needs to push the grim future prediction to eleven and hammer the point. Literally Hell on Earth. Then we present ourselves as the only available saviors because we know the truth, we know the enemy, we know the true cause and only under such conditions an efficient and useful war can be waged. Politicians don't do this because they don't want to scare the voters, but it's fear that all these people need to experience. A complete existential dread.

>>9390
>The average middle class White is too comfortable with the status quo to even challenge it.
I wouldn't go that far. There's some comfort left to them yes but there's a growing disgust with the current situation that's palpable. I also doubt that the Whites seen marching in the US or Europe are all disenfranchised. You can have a good way of life but see that your environment which you depend on keeps getting worse and that even doing business sanely becomes impossible, and if you're smart enough you will want to know why.
>That's why mass-appeal recruitment drives and big-tent politics are doomed to failure, because it doesn't matter if you recruit ten thousand men when not a single one of them will do anything besides token gestures like handing out flyers or going on marches. 
You are incorrect. The mass appeal has two functions: to allow us to present a wider and more convincing united front that will attract the gregarious minds, and to incentivize such people to fund the movement with any money they want to put in it, even if it's by merely buying merchandising. This money will be used to sustain the more radical forces. Meanwhile our ideas will propagate through these people and always manage to reach the more interesting candidates.
There's a room for everyone, we need to adapt our offer to each class.
>a guy who refuses to play into the Jewish hamster wheel that is our work-taxes cycle and refuses to buy into the suffocating banality and pointlessness of modern life is someone that will follow you into Hell itself.
Agreed. If you wrap this with a flair of perennial end-of-times spirituality it's even better, as it gives us a sense of belonging to an even greater cause, we become illuminated radicals.
However, once this core is secured, something will have to be done to increase the size and introduce the perhaps softer elements to a context of culture of combat and training. At least all of our members should get a solid experience in firearm usage and anything that helps creating a very dynamic and responsive pseudo network of cells that can quickly regroup when a member is threatened.
>>9399
You only say that because you're a purist. But purists never accomplish anything because history and the real world is dirty.

>You arbitrarily bump this to 20% from where I stand.
Because the sample size includes niggers and other non-Whites. That constitutes just under 50% of the population. Since they do not matter, we may double the stat from 10% of the population to 20%.

>We are missing something, I will keep looking for the key to unlock this mystery.
I agree. 
In my own intensive self analysis, what woke me up was understanding the scope of the unfairness. I was raised a liberal by liberals. However, fairness has always been important to me and to this day, pointing it out constitutes a large part of my arguments with others. 
But not everyone is like that. 

My theory is that we need to appear stronger in order for people to want to join us. It is natural for humans to fear attaching themselves to an ideology or rather a tribe that is weak. That could mean death in the past and may lead to death today. Thus, banners, marches, and protests, while helpless to compel the regime to change its policies, are all essential for attaining power. It inspires others to hop off the fence and take part in history.
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>You only say that because you're a purist. But purists never accomplish anything because history and the real world is dirty.
You don't know what you're talking about. I have considered making uncomfy alliances and betraying them when needed. I am chill with even 50% of Whites dying, if needed by our hand, assuming the price is worth it. I'm merely very realpilled about the current paradigm.
>Because the sample size includes niggers and other non-Whites. That constitutes just under 50% of the population. Since they do not matter, we may double the stat from 10% of the population to 20%.
So you assume that as soon as we remove the non-Whites from the sampled pool, then suddenly if it had all been about Whites being pooled, more than 10% of them would support the alt-right? It is true that White vote goes much more towards the right, but it could already be included in 10%. That's because 10% is honestly very low, even at the scale of the entire population and all its races. You just assume that Whites contributed to most of the 10% but I don't agree with that.
Firstly because while Trump won the elections, you would expect a much higher support for the alt-right. There is in fact a strange disconnection between the elections result and that pool.
Secondly, even when non-Whites were a small minority, we already had a lot of Whites voting against Whites and in support of candidates who welcomed more migrants.
So while I could agree that pooling Whites only would theoretically increase the alt-right percentage, I don't think it would do so by more than a few points.
This being said I haven't seen what were the other options and if there were more interesting radical positions.
>My theory is that we need to appear stronger in order for people to want to join us. It is natural for humans to fear attaching themselves to an ideology or rather a tribe that is weak. That could mean death in the past and may lead to death today. Thus, banners, marches, and protests, while helpless to compel the regime to change its policies, are all essential for attaining power. It inspires others to hop off the fence and take part in history.
By now I'm firmly convinced that the recruitment will only do miracles if what we present is not the old tired political party, but a perfect blend of a religious movement with a far ranging scope of intents, with a mission that bridges past and future. In other words, it has to feel epic. It had to feel awesome. It has to excite people irrationally without requiring winning their hearts with arguments but with beautiful visions of the future and equally terrifying visions of another future if we would not do anything. It has to work on the level of intuition, emotions, shock, might. I would say it almost needs to feel like a movie. Something so unreal and bombastic that either you reject it violently or it raptures you in a whirlwind of colliding souls spinning around a luminous axis of light from where all can be seen. The semiotics have to be worked on. The icons, the symbolism, the enthralling sight of a reality that would be so different, so mind blowing and magnanimous that any alternative would feel bland, tasteless, weak, shy and already dead at birth. And that's something that we and only we can do. Jews cannot do that, it's beyond their abilities as they can only corrupt and confuse. Sorry if this will sound cringe but we must present ourselves as if we were selling the mighty project of some kind of Aryan World Hegemony, on Earth and beyond, an epic fight against those who seek our humiliation and destruction. We must totally forget any sense of humility at this point and sell a marvelous dream.
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>>9409
>So you assume that as soon as we remove the non-Whites from the sampled pool, then suddenly if it had all been about Whites being pooled, more than 10% of them would support the alt-right? 
Uh.. yeah. That's how it works.
If our sample is 1,000 people and 500 of them are White, 10% of 1,000 is 100. So 100 people out of 1,000 are alt-right. That's 10%.
But we don't care about the fact that 0 niggers and 1 spic support alt right positions. So we remove them from the sample. We can be pretty damn certain that at least 95% of the 100 pro-White individuals were also White themselves. 100 out of 500 Whites is 20%. That's good.
> You just assume that Whites contributed to most of the 10% but I don't agree with that.
Anon, I highly, highly doubt that shitskins are coming out in droves to oppose White genocide. 
But if they are, I will just kill myself out of embarrassment after saying, "Hey, they're doing the jobs White people aren't"

>a perfect blend of a religious movement with a far ranging scope of intents, with a mission that bridges past and future. In other words, it has to feel epic.
I agree. Politics is a means to an end. The end is Revolution.
In addition to a quasi religious crusade, we also need genuine social programs that ween our people off the regime.
Say, for example, that the regime just stops providing police protection to White people. That HAPPENED back in 2019 and also during the Obama years race riots. 
Fine. Then we provide that police protection instead. Golden Dawn literally did this. Niggers and spics already do this. 
Now, Patriot Front or whatever would need to be careful on this. But it's possible to enforce order and retaliate against criminals without being obvious about it. Even if all we can do is have impotent "community watch" organizations, that would be a vast improvement over nothing. Actually, that's a very dangerous thing indeed as community watch organizations can turn into a guerrilla force within minutes given the right environment.

Disaster relief is a much safer option as the regime mass arresting people over this is terrible optics. But even Right Wing Disaster Relief Squads can turn into insurgent cells within minutes if needed.

Anyway, I am in complete agreement with your cold pursuit of justice. I concur that there is no cost too high to pay in the name of racial victory.
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