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How will Fascism or National Socialism fix relations between men and women? Is there any fixing what has happened, or is it largely a case of removing the muddlers and the natural relations will restore themselves as a matter of course?

What is essential:
>ensuring a father can support an entire family, getting women out of the work-force
>encouraging and supporting large families through incentives, loans, etc
>encouraging men and women to marry earlier 
>making divorce more difficult
>banning pornography
>domestic discipline

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Step 1: Dismantle the kike invented divide and conquer monstrosity known as the ((( nuclear family ))) and return to clan based communal living arrangements.
Private property is fine, but there should be a high level or resource sharing and, it should go without saying, development of a very high trust, low crime society.
It doesn't really matter much if a particular mother is working or not if there is a sufficient number of clanswomen taking care of all the group's kids. The whole concept of "my kid" versus "your kid" is yet more cancerous jewish thinking. Everyone should be helping to support and raise the community's children. If you're not wiling to do that, then you're obviously in the wrong community. Go form your own clan and find people you're willing to live and die for, as well as their (and your) children.
If a woman has a number of children early in life and then enters the workforce because she has skills and can contribute economically or academically, it's all to the good. You don't have to choose one or the other. She can be both a mother and a productive member of society if she belongs to a clan based communal structure where nobody's kid gets left behind or uncared for.
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Make women (almost) property of their husband/nearest male relative, the way every functional culture did since the beginning of time.
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Kill yourself.
Go fuck an STD ridden nigger and GTFO of here then, dumb whore
Correct. OTOH, how likely is this to ever happen before DOTR? Might I suggest that robowaifus could stand-in as a partial help until such time arrives?
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>>14 (OP) 
The obsession about "fixing" nature is characteristic for the ((( muddlers ))), remove their toxic influence and control over society and everything will eventually fix itself, natural social dynamics are self-emergent.
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Disagree, the nuclear family is vital, which is why the kikes work to destroy it through divorce, fag marriage, etc. However, the nuclear family is not sufficient by itself -- it's supposed to be one component of several. A healthy society should have nuclear families embedded within the clan-based community structure you described.

Ultimately, women want to be dominated and under the control of men. The Jews gave them freedom, and they don't know what to do with it.

this, nature doesn't need to be "fixed", this is completely backwards. WE need to be fixed so that we're in harmony with nature. Trying to corrupt nature to match your own corruption is the Jewish way.
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>Disagree, the nuclear family is vital,
The nuclear family is garbage and is the reason why we're in this mess in the first place. It encourages submissiveness and individualism. I swear many of you guys here do your hardest in trying not acting like Christians, but act as they do. The Jews want to destroy anything that is traditional and healthy for the White race. The only option here is a self-sufficient communal/extended family structure that keeps kin together at all times to prevent division.
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Glad there's at least one other poster on this board with a brain.
t. >>19
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I should modify my statement. Nuclear families are inferior to extended families and clans, but are still much preferred to the broken families that thrive under ZOG control.
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>which is why the kikes work to destroy it
The kikes work mostly to destroy what goyim like, such as peace and good health. I guarantee the majority of them have put no thought into why they reflexively shill for jews and against gentiles, they've just always done it because social parasitism is their instinct. Those who are smart enough to plan against us, for all I know, are ineffectually trying to stop the obvious catastrophe that would be white genocide. Killing the best host they ever had wouldn't be wise, there's not much room for a social parasite without a society,  but most of them don't know that and don't care - they see goyim rushing to defend their houses from colored hordes and open a weapon shop.
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Let me make another correction. In the process of my red-pilling, I've sometimes had to sort out blue-pilled beliefs that were left unexamined inside my brain. This is one of those occasions. Now I realize that in fact, the nuclear family is a subtle poison, atomizing people and encouraging submissiveness as you said. It may be better than broken families, but that's only because it's a less advanced form of decay. In fact, the extended communal/clan structure is the most healthy and natural way for us to live, that's how we Aryans lived in the past, and the lack of this causes much neurosis today.
While I have a good family, I didn't grow up in an Aryan clan/tribe like I was supposed to, and now it really bothers me. fuck. I cannot forgive nor forget what was taken from me.

this seems accurate.
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>How will Fascism or National Socialism fix relations between men and women?
It won't. NatSocs are the biggest white-knight, Captain Save-a-Ho simps I've ever seen. Husbands will be responsible for their wives while having zero authority over them, same as now.
NatSoc would empower men to be stronger father figures, though. NatSocs only simp for grown White women, not for children
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>hate the opposite sex of your tribe, goy! it's good for you, trust me!

Fuck off.
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Reading comprehension fail.
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>Unironically uses the word simp
Fuck off cat-boy lover. Retards like you are why there are faggots and trannies in RW movements.
This meme isn't even remotely true and is a gigantic cope. Anon, you are a beta male, get over it.
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