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I mostly made this thread because i wanted to share my experiences on gamer mice. I bought a Roccat Burst Pro last year, which was great up until last week when the scroll wheel started failing with no rhyme or reason. I suspect this has something to do with the utterly insane feature of having the standard scroll wheel click plus another click to the right which switches the mouse into a different set of actions bound to the buttons.

Serendipitously, there were two mice on sale at my local computer store. The Logitech G203 and the Steelseries Prime.

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I should be clear that both mice are solid shell mice without any "speed holes" popularized by Glorious with their Model O in 2020.

>>257740
The first is the Logitech G203, which is the wired version of a couple different SKUs made with the same shell. It's fairly old; I saw a review of it from 2017 and I think it was around before that. It's symmetrical and has a pretty low profile. It comes from a time when mouse weight wasn't a selling point so it's at least 100 grams. Feels significantly heavier than the Roccat Burst Pro, which was slightly heavier than the Glorious Model O.

RGB lighting is limited to the logo on the back and a small line. Overall tasteful and inoffensive. (By gamer mouse standards.) Buttons feel solid and nice. Scroll wheel has a good chunk when moving but doesn't have overmuch resistance. Cable is not braided but is very flexible and doesn't impair moving the mouse. This was probably ahead of its time when it first released. Has the standard button layout with a button on top for switching sensitivity levels.

Overall a good mouse for the price, however it being a small and surprisingly heavy mouse is a very odd combination after years of using lightweight mice. Given my weird fingertip/claw grip hybrid I didn't notice it as much, but I think it's totally unsuited for palm grips. The mouse is VERY short from front to back, making it odd to handle.

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>>257741
Oh, I forgot to mention that the G203 is symmetrical.

The second is the Steelseries Prime, which I think launched in 2017 as well. There were two other Prime mice made with the same shell, one wireless and one with some other quirk. The SteelSeries Prime is a long, tall, ugly slug-shaped mouse - and it's beautiful.

The shape of the thing looks incredibly weird, even by right-handed ergonomic mouse standards, but I have to say that having it in my hand is very comfortable. It's obviously built for palm grips but it performs well with a fingertip/claw grip too. It's also somehow lighter than the Logitech mouse despite being like 1.5 times the size. It's about 70g, which is within 5g of most Glorious mice.

Clicks feel solid but don't take more force than you would expect. The Prime apparently has unique switches that are like three times the size of a standard mouse switch and made with a tension spring rather than relying on the stiffness of the metal itself. Also the mechanism to detect clicks uses a magnet and a laser, so it doesn't wear out over time. The scroll wheel feels very heavy to scroll and click, but that's nice. It doesn't have any bullshit like the Burst Pro's "tilt to the right to change your mouse buttons" feature.

There is a single RGB light on the Prime, which is on the scroll wheel. It displays exactly one solid color and has no other patterns (you can turn it off if you don't want any RGB). The sensitivity button is on the bottom. The only problem with this mouse is that each level of sensitivity has a color hardcoded to match it, so the lowest sensitivity will always be purple, the third will always be green, etc.

I looked online and there is no way to change this. Baffling, stupid decision even for 2017. I recommend setting the RGB to a light blue if you want it, since that doesn't overlap with any of the other colors.

>>257740
>>257741
>>257742
I’ll say it again. MM730, all optical switches, solid sensor, simple design. You can even turn off the rgb without drivers.
Feels good in the right hand.

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Is talk about fight-sticks allowed in this hardware thread?

>>258142
Only non gay ones.

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uBlock Origin Lite maker ends Firefox support due to “hostile” dispute with Mozilla
https://archive.vn/20241002184033/https://alternativeto.net/news/2024/10/ublock-origin-lite-maker-ends-firefox-support-due-to-hostile-dispute-with-mozilla/
>Raymond Hill, creator of the popular ad blocker uBlock Origin, recently received two emails from Mozilla regarding his Firefox add-on uBlock Origin Lite. This version is designed to be compatible with Manifest V3, a specification that will replace Manifest V2 in Chromium-based browsers. The emails from Mozilla highlighted several violations, including the lack of user consent for data collection, the presence of minified or machine-generated code, and the absence of a privacy policy.
>In response, Hill refuted these claims, asserting that uBlock Origin Lite does not collect any data, contains no minified code in the cited files, and includes a privacy policy link on its add-on page. Despite his rebuttal, Mozilla has disabled the extension on the Firefox Add-ons Store. Frustrated by what he describes as a “nonsensical and hostile” decision, Hill announced he will discontinue the Firefox version of uBlock Origin Lite due to the “added burden of dealing with AMO nonsensical and hostile review process”.
>It's important to note that these issues pertain solely to uBlock Origin Lite and do not affect the main uBlock Origin extension.
Who the fuck still uses Mozilla?

>>258190
I do.

>>258190
I use a fork of it.

>>258190
Everything else is chrome so why wouldn't you?

It's either a fork of it or Chrome. It's a case of least of the two evils. Or maybe you can use Basilisk.

>>258210
Meant for >>258190

>>258210
There is also Webkit and Ladybird might become usable in a year.

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>>258210
Firefox is basically a Chrome clone, and they're effectively controlled opposition for Google through their search engine deal. It's really palememe (which breaks for a lot of the most cancerous javascript, but that could be considered a feature) or Links, because it's been deliberately made impossible to keep a "modern" HTML engine up to date for a small team.

I use Librewolf

>>258214
How is it a "Chrome clone" when it preexisted Chrome, uses a different engine, has maintained roughly the same UI for many years, and isn't made by an advertising company? Can't take your post seriously, you must be a zoomer.

>>258210
Until icecat becomes usable, I'll stick to ungoogled thanks.
>>258142
Sure but I use my keyboard.

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>>258236
>How is it a "Chrome clone" when it preexisted Chrome
It wasn't initially a clone, but eventually became one.
>uses a different engine
No one claimed it's a "clone" as in the same engine like Brave or whatever. It's a "clone" as in trying to imitate Chrome while still having their own engine.
>has maintained roughly the same UI for many years
No it has not, it's been trying to imitate Chrome's shitty UI more and more.
>and isn't made by an advertising company?
They spy on you and most of their funding comes from Google so there's not much of a difference at that point.
>Can't take your post seriously, you must be a zoomer.
<zoomer = someone i disagree with
>>258214
>palememe
It's a meme, truly. Despite being broken (even this site is broken on it), it still consumes a lot of RAM and has modern cancer like WebAssembly, and it still spies on you and the mentally ill furry developers intend on making the browser worse and worse, so at the very least it's not better than Firefox, but I would even say it's worse. I'd say to just use Librewolf or to "harden" Firefox yourself.
>it's been deliberately made impossible to keep a "modern" HTML engine up to date for a small team
There's a project called Ladybird browser, which was initially supposed to be a browser for a hobby OS. It's been in development since 2018 and we'll only see an alpha release in 2026, which is expected.
Ultimately the problem lies not so much on the browsers, but on the web. It's because websites use bloated modernist features that we need bloated modernist browsers. But the sad part is that you can't escape those modernist features. Even if you're a NEET who has no need at all for corporate or government websites, most websites (imageboards, torrent websites, wikis, etc, pretty much any kind, even the "nerdier" and more underground ones) are going to arbitrarily have modernist features to some degree (even if not with malicious intentions) and may rely on them a lot or completely even when they could've avoided using them. If you want to use a "minimalist" browser like Links or Dillo or NetSurf, you're going to have to accept that most websites will be partially or fully broken.
And how do you convince everyone making websites to stop using modernist features? Maybe I'm being too "doomer", but I think there's no helping, unless all technology and kikes got wiped and we'd start all over.

>>258259
Every single one of the points you made is total bullshit, but I'm glad you live with inferior slop because that is what you deserve. I see no point to convince you of your shit existence, rather I am happy that you exist in it.

>>258259
>has modern cancer like WebAssembly
Since when?

>>258259
>If you want to use a "minimalist" browser like Links or Dillo or NetSurf, you're going to have to accept that most websites will be partially or fully broken.
Saving a page through an archiving site can help with this problem to a degree, but that makes browsing way too slow, not to mention that you cannot interact with the site that way.

>>258262
>Every single one of the points you made is total bullshit
I know, it's because I'm a "zoomer" or whatever new boogeyman, because the voices in your head told you so and you refuse to explain anything.
>but I'm glad you live with inferior slop because that is what you deserve
I use Librewolf, fucking idiot. I just don't treat Mozilla as some saviors.
>>258264
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=26902
https://digdeeper.club/articles/browsers.xhtml#palemoon

>>258236
>>258262
Now that I shared a page from that site, I should also take the opportunity to share this: https://digdeeper.club/articles/mozilla.xhtml
A whole article exposing your false god.

>>258270
All you've got is a straw man. I said Firefox is not a Chrome clone, and you have done nothing to prove that statement false. I identified you as a zoomer because it is apparent you don't understand things that happened out in the world when you were an infant. That you believe I'm using the term as a boogeyman only further illustrates my point. You can only conceive of things from your terminally online perspective because that is the world you have existed in your whole life.

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saging in a schizo thread

>>258277
Yet another post where the retarded zoomer fails to explain how Firefox is a "Chrome clone" when it preexisted Chrome, doesn't use the same engine, and has only copied one (1) single notable interface element over a 20 year period (tabs on top of address bar).

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I wonder when Jewgle will try to EEE the conventional Internet IE6 style to force everyone into the proprietary Alphabet IoT FAGMANverse.

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Kickstarter for flightsimfags.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/virpil/virpil-controls-advanced-flight-simulator-yoke
They are slavs from belarus that make shit for flight simulators.

>>258358
At least it will be more useful than a PS5PRO. Hey Sony, who is the PS5PRO for? Are you trying to push your players to pc gaming (unintentionally)?

>>258415
The only practical benefit the Piss5Poo has over the regular PS5 is moar grafigs for VR, but Sony recently released a PC adapter for the PSVR2 so I have no idea what their end goal with the PS5Pro could be apart from scalping or sheer management inertia.

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Thermal Grizzly's nifty gadget can prevent Nvidia's 16-pin connector meltdowns — WireView GPU Pro features a GPU power monitor, connector detection, and temperature sensors
https://archive.vn/20240929094354/https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/thermal-grizzlys-nifty-gadget-can-prevent-nvidias-16-pin-connector-meltdowns-wireview-gpu-pro-features-a-gpu-power-monitor-connector-detection-and-temperature-sensors
>Thermal Grizzly upgraded its WireView GPU hardware power consumption monitoring device that connects directly to your GPU’s 12VHPWR connector. WireView GPU Pro retails for $76.19 (with VAT included) and is available on the company’s website.
>The WireView GPU Pro gets additional sensors for added functionality. The device allows you to track your graphic card’s internal temperatures at the power connector, check to see if the power connector is inserted correctly (or if you’re even using the correct cable), and send an audible alarm if something is wrong. In addition to these features, you could also connect two additional temperature sensors to monitor the ambient temperature of other areas of your GPU (or even PC), helping you keep everything in check.
Are Njewdia's card still burning down?

>>258441
Possibly. It seems a lot of the "fixes" in 3rd party cables were causing their own issues to top it all off.

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Will Intel stop being retarded?

>>259008
Those power (and presumably temperature) reductions are very substantial, though I still wouldn't trust Intel after their latest fuckup

>>259021
Only time will tell if they finally manage to make a good cpu without pumping more power into the poor thing.

>>258415
I really look forward to seeing the $800 PC vs. PS5 pro videos since Soyny so graciously made sure all titles are directly comparable.

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>>259033
Arrow Lake is being made by TSMC (Intel is doing the packaging because that's the only part of their foundry division that isn't a sick joke, but the silicon is all straight outta taiwan) so that's probably 90% of the power improvements you're seeing. Zen 5 is a dud, so this will probably keep Intel from losing too much money on bribing OEMs this cycle, but that's it.

In lighter news, Hackers take control of robot vacuums in multiple cities, yell racial slurs
https://gyo.tc/1eCcL
>This time, there was no ambiguity about what was coming out of the speaker. A voice was yelling racist obscenities, loud and clear, right in front of Mr Swenson's son.
>"Fuck niggers," screamed the voice, over and over again.

>>259042
Are there robot vacuums that are FOSS?

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I've got a problem with my PC randomly restarting recently. I figured it was an overheating problem since whenever it happens I noticed that my room temperature is a few degrees higher than normal, so I put new thermal paste on the CPU cooler and that seemed to fix it for a few days, but now it happened again. There doesn't seem to be any problems with my temperatures though except for this one motherboard sensor that is over 100℃ but I don't know what it is sensing.

>>259064
Does it have any relation to GPU activity/heat?

>>259068
No it's not like I am playing any games when it happens. Plus it happens multiple times in a row, so even immediately after a restart it will restart again.

>>259069
Looks like a cooked VRM. Check setup shortly after it happens, I've never worked with assrock before but you should have access to the temperature sensors with actual labels if it has a graphical interface.

>>259071
So you think the problem is with the motherboard? I put in my ancient GPU for now to rule out the GPU, so if it happens again I will check that.

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It happened again. The only temperature readings in the BIOS are for the CPU and the mobo though, so maybe that reading is just a bug.

It is crashing even when trying to run memtest86 so I guess that rules out any software problems since that is a boot program. I'm not sure if that means it's a RAM problem though, since it didn't spit out any errors before shutting down and I doubt a program designed to find RAM issues would crash due to a RAM issue.

>>259064
>>259083
>>259087
How does the crash looks like? Does it print out anything or just blue/black screen? Or it stops without outputting anything and restarts?

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>>259123
It just stops, like if the power went out. I think it might have been the PSU though, I swapped it for my old PSU and I was able to get a full memtest run and use the PC for a few hours, and the 12v/5v readings are higher now.

>>259127
That fits. I was gonna recommend testing it with another power supply, but you already figured it out.
Faulty PSU is the cause in probably 80 % of all PC hardware problems I deal with.

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>>257737 (OP) 
>AVOID:
>Corsair 4000D airflow
Why?

>>259128
>but you already figured it out
Hopefully. Like I said it started happening again last time I thought I fixed the problem.

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>12TB $300
>14TB $170
>8TB   $160
The fuck is happening? Should I just buy the 14TB?

>>259157
yes

>>259157
They make HDDs that big now? I have three 4TB drives in my PC but they are running out of space.

>>259157
Last I heard Seagate external drives were all SMR. SMR drives are complete ass for any scenario where you plan to write to any part of it more than once between formats. If you treat it like a tape drive and never do anything with it except back up your porn and ROM collections, it's fine. Otherwise you're better off waiting until the inevitable Easystore/Elements sale over the holidays, since WD uses enterprise drives that usually aren't SMR.

>>259162
Nowadays I buy Toshiba Enterprise HDDs, they all have good old CRM.
MG07 series are 12 and 14 TB with conventional technology.
MG08 (14 & 16 TB), MG09 (10, 12, 14, 16 and 18 TB) and MG10 (18 & 20 TB) series are helium-filled on top of that.
Just make sure you order the ones with SATA interface, if you plan to use it in regular PC.

>>259228
Maybe I should add this clarification for anyone wanting to buy these HDDs: Toshiba manufacture several variants of each drive - Standard, SIE and SED. SIE - instant secure erase compatibily, SED - self-encrypting drive.
You can also get them in two disk sector formats  - 512e (emulated) or 4k (native). 4Kn is supported since Windows 8 and Linux kernel 2.6.31 and is mostly intended for servers and stuff like that.
So most basic and cheapest variant is SATA 512e Standard (without SIE & SED). In most cases you only need this one and most retailers offer only this variant anyway.

>>259130
There are cases that offer more and cost less.

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And its fucking nothing.
If you have a 7800X3D you still have the best cpu for vidya, 5800X3D is also fine.

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More efficient than a 14700K, but still way behind amd, even to the 7950X that would melt your motherboard.

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Didn't know where else to put this.
Due to an executive order that applies to every citizen of the world (Yes, including non-Americans), Linux and the open source community are currently in the process of removing any and all code that was contributed by a Russian citizen and removing their contributions to any Russian-based projects in order to avoid being accuside of committing treason
https://archive.ph/sHO6D
https://archive.ph/vgVv6
https://archive.ph/acc9w
https://archive.ph/ZQfPO

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>>260152
>removes attributions while keeping the code i.e. it's entirely political
>Linus sperging about "trolls" and ruski aggression while refusing to clarify why he accepted a commit that is anathema to open source development
Every time I see Linus opening his mouth these days I start questioning if it really was a good idea to switch to linux.

>>260152
>>260155

Finnish autism wins over "noble principle" once again.

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>>260152
If you read the fucking mailing list repost on Phoronix you'll find that this is happening because a lot of Russian Linux developers work for companies that have been sanctioned by one ZOG vassal or another. Because sanction law largely works on kosher rules this means businesses that use Linux or host Linux infrastructure can get ripped a new asshole if it has the names of people working for a sanctioned company on it. They're removing the names from MAINTAINERS hoping that will be enough to keep the lawyers happy and they won't have to rip out decades of patches over a stupid proxy war.

Everything else is just Linus being an easily annoyed Finnish sperglord.

>>260152
This is a profoundly dangerous threat to free software in general and I've been fucking appalled at most of the myopic Russiphobic reactions to it on Libera chat.  NATO really has colonized the brains of a lot of free software coders in northern Europe.

Anything with a copyright held in the United States can be subject to this, and most big projects choose to have their copyrights held in the US just so that they can have legal standing to pursue license violations in US courts.  There is great danger of this leading to all sorts of fragmented nationalistic forks on a vast swath of libre projects.

>>260155
Actually there are code changes in the reverted patches too:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/patch/?id=c55228220dd33e7627ad9736b6fce4df5

>>260170
>nationalistic forks
No, it will lead to proxy developers.
>dev A is sanctioned by country C
>dev A creates patch, country C blocks it's contribution
>dev B sees the patch, says they created it
>dev B submits patch
"Patch Washing"

>tfw lived to see russians become the new natsees
What a world, am I right fellas?

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>>260173
Remember that this is the same party that unironically handed Russia a literal reset button.

>>260171
Reverted? They're still there. All I see is how Greg tried to bury a controversial commit among some random driver fixes?

I bet this will backfire majorly for the west as they have shot themselfs in the feet constantly at the very least since rona.
At this point it should be clear that the united states is a dictatorship for all the world and its time its power will be broken.
Western politics are a sad bad joke and can only go wrong, no doubt they will only ride themselfs deeper in shit they cant get out of.
>>260173
Joke is its the exactly other way round, i mean we saw since lockdowns and shit that western allligned states have no sovereignety and do not care about the wellbeing or right of its people but are just basically milking the world dry.
I hope the day comes where the west will be exposed and all the nazi traitors will be hung and im not just talking about politicians and soldiers.

>>260196
>At this point it should be clear that the united states is a dictatorship for all the world and its time its power will be broken.
And other groups like the EU isn't?

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>>260173
What surprises me is how it took 2 and a half years to pull this stunt, this shit becoming stale even on the US foreign aid cut. What gives and who cares?
>>260196
>and all the nazi traitors will be hung
>nazi traitors
80c9de was using nahdzee ironically as the catch-all term for "thing I don't like" modern faggots love to use and yet you're here doubling down. What hole did you crawl out of?

>>260173
Technically they have always been such, deservedly or not. Sadly the McCarthy era witch hunts targeted innocent people such as movie directors and other artists while failing to expose actual spies.
>>260196
Perhaps it's time for India to take the reigns then, since they are digging themselves out of shit, slowly but steadily. I also dig the sitar sounds.

>>260143 intelaviv being trash is hilarious

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>>260200
>Sadly the McCarthy era witch hunts targeted innocent people such as movie directors and other artists while failing to expose actual spies.
No, it didn't. Many of those "innocents" were true believers in Socialism, however they also believed that they would be the benefactors of it's success rather than the useful idiots Socialists dispose of the moment they outlive their usefulness.

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ay *he whos name shall not be spoken*, are you in here? banned or just too afraid to return to /b/?

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Same story for the Intel Core Ultra 5 245K, holy shit, that fucking naming...

>>260152
Linus Torvalds is a NIGGER

ATTENTION!
Urgent New Nvidia Security Warning For 200 Million Linux And Windows Gamers
https://archive.vn/20241026143430/https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2024/10/25/urgent-new-nvidia-security-warning-for-200-million-linux-and-windows-gamers/
>Thank you for you attention

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>>260305
>https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5586
>NVIDIA GPU Display Driver for Windows and Linux contains a vulnerability which could allow a privileged attacker to escalate permissions. A successful exploit of this vulnerability might lead to code execution, denial of service, escalation of privileges, information disclosure, and data tampering.
These are bugs in the display driver and vGPU software for Windows, not in the hardware itself.
These pages have more details:
>https://feedly.com/cve/CVE-2024-0117
>An out-of-bounds read vulnerability exists in the Shader Functionality functionality of NVIDIA D3D10 Driver 555.99, 32.0.15.5599. A specially crafted executable / shader file can lead to an out-of-bounds read. An attacker can provide a specially crafted shader file to trigger this vulnerability.
>https://feedly.com/cve/CVE-2024-0121
>An out-of-bounds read vulnerability exists in the Shader Functionality SAMPLE instruction of NVIDIA D3D10 Driver NVIDIA D3D10 Driver [...]
Which should mean that only programs that use the D3D10 shader API are affected.
There doesn't seem to be any reference to any existing exploits in the wild in these pages.

>>260308
Posted too soon, the first link says that vGPU software is actually used by Red Hat Enterprise Linux KVM, VMware vSphere.
>NVIDIA vGPU software contains a vulnerability in the GPU kernel driver of the vGPU Manager for all supported hypervisors, where a user of the guest OS can cause an improper input validation by compromising the guest OS kernel.

>>260308
>Which should mean that only programs that use the D3D10 shader API are affected.
So don't download random games off of the net? It seems like all of these "recent" exploits can be avoided by simply using basic common sense.

>>260316
As someone who works in customer service, I can tell you with a great amount of confidence that common sense is a dire misnomer, because most people definitely lack it.

>>260308
Wasn't there an even bigger motherboard exploit like a year or two ago that never even actually got exploited?

>>260317
The part that I find irritating is that I'm suppose to be the "idiot" for refusing to update to the latest tech, yet it seems like I keep hearing about nothing but problems, backdoors, and exploits that keep happening with the latest tech.

>>260317
People seem to expect that one should be able to download whatever one wants and face no security repercussions. The machine should defend and repair itself. It's like when something advertises itself as "durable" and then some assfucker complains because it broke when he ran it over with his car.

>>260317
>>260333
>backdoors
>People seem to expect that one should be able to download whatever one wants and face no security repercussions.
You one of those geniuses that call games viruses too?

>>260342
Everything is a weerus until proven otherwise

>>257737 (OP) 
No doubt it was the intended effect by a master troll, the thing from this image I actually find most offensive is the Battlefield 3 poster.

>>260330
All tech have problems, backdoors and exploits, no?

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>>260409
Yes, however some are harder to accomplish than others. These days, it seems like nearly all of them are caused due to either intentional neglegance or stupidity. Like that BSOD hack from a few months back that wiped out computers across the globe that was caused by the anti-virus have kernel level access to the computer's OS and deleting an important file in an update. Or that other recent kenerl-level exploit discovered even a few months earlier that was accomplished by logging onto unsecured public wifi. Or that OTHER other kenerl level exploit discovered almost a year before that that required one to physically replace an image file on your hard drive.

The running theme I see is that recent computer problems can be best summed as people wanting to have unrestrained and unprotected sex, only to then be "surprised" later on that they "somehow" contracted an STD.

>>260152
It's like none of you learnt what happened with xz. It's better to purge hostile nations off your creations before they plant vulnerabilities on your systems.

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>>260411
>Like that BSOD hack from a few months back that wiped out computers across the globe
That wasn't even a hack, that was an epic blunder by a bunch of incompetent scam artists who never should have been trusted within a mile of secure systems after they fabricated the Russian hacking narrative back in 2016.  The fact that these con artists somehow become the "industry standard" for the aspect of cybersecurity they completely fucked up on is an indictment of the cargo cult attitude in IT departments that still hasn't received its proper dues.

>>260436
That's the dumbest shit I've read in a while. What happened with xz was practically the opposite i.e. a bad actor was able to get maintainer status because while a lot of things depended on xz it only had a single unpaid maintainer who didn't have time to deal with the growing pile of pull requests and bug reports. If there is anything to learn from xz it's that now that the known quantities have been removed it would be the perfect time for your hostiles to show up and fill the void.

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>>260436
I'm sure you're ready to explain to us how you plan on identifying "hostile nations".

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>>260411
It's almost like kernel level shit is a cancer that must be purged.

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>>260436
>It's better to purge hostile nations
Yes.
There is only one hostile nation.
And it has no borders.

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>>260448
>leaving "breadcrumbs" in foreign languages on hacked computers to blame da ebul Russians/Iranians etc.
This has to be bait or deliberately planted fake news, why the fuck would any serious government-grade hacker org leave evidence in what I'd assume to be UTF-compliant foreign script when the entirety of the modern software and hardware infrastructure runs on english-derived syntax?
Intelligence Boomers can't possibly be this inept, right?

>>260444
>What happened with xz was practically the opposite
But the bad actor was a foreigner from a hostile nation. Blacklisting some countries from contributing in the first place prevents the incident that happened with xz.

>it would be the perfect time for your hostiles to show up and fill the void.
Except the hole leading to that void now has a filter on it.

>>260454
>spoiler
Yes, that nation think it is free to define where its border lies whenever it wants so it is exporting illegal immigrants to its west.

>>260476
You haven't explained your big plan for identifying "hostile nations".

>>260476
Jia Cheong Tan? The supposedly random mishmash of chink names and romanizations? Possible aliases Jigar Kumar, krygorin4545, misoeater91, Hans Jansen? Which hostile nation would that be exactly?
No, gayops in general and nation level in particular aren't going to use their real identities just so you can filter them out with a simple flag check. You're being retarded.

>>260480
You can track the timezones they're working at. There should me multiple ways of tracking people on the internet.

>>260479
Formulating such plan hasn't been and isn't my business, Mr. Strawman.

>>260482
Indeed, it's good thing that humans are not capable of doing anything once the sun goes down, and staying up late is outright impossible.

>>260482
>You can track the timezones they're working at.
Yeah, people did. Didn't line up. What's the next step of your master plan?

>>260483
>staying up late is outright impossible.
It's like you haven't seen any night time security guards.

>>260485
>Didn't line up.
How it didn't line up? Both names and timezone point to Southeast Asia.

>>260170
>>260172
Looks like the outcome might not necessarily be nationalistic forks.  Just one fork for the US and its vassal states and another fork for the rest of the international community.  The Russian Ministry of Digital Development is already proposing a fork of Linux open to international collaboration.

Lunduke link because he's the only one who's been covering this story with any actual depth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgG2-qcjLaM

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Can anyone spoonfeed me on the minimum amount of money a NAS would cost (excluding the drives)?

>>260545
It's just a PC. You can get creative and spend as little or as much as you really want. Use old components if you already have them lying around.

>>260545
Most of the money is in the disks.
You can go cheap if you don't care or expensive if you do.
~250 USD per disk if you care.
Any computer newer than 2006 is more than powerful enough for software raid as long as you don't care about transcoding.

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>>260571
>transcoding
What's that? Nothing to do with trannies, right?

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>>260152
Is not justified by >>260436
Liberals thinking they can do this shit lead to this. And liberal cancer is what you will end up with if you keep this up.

>>260152
>Due to an executive order that applies to every citizen of the world 
Yeah, no. Linux Foundation is a US based organization taking in US taxpayer money to work on a modified version of a software made by US companies. It has always been innately a property of the US. If there's any other country making an OS from scratch they won't have a problem with the order.

Except there's none.

>>260480
>No, gayops in general and nation level in particular aren't going to use their real identities just so you can filter them out with a simple flag check. You're being retarded.
So what, just force them to fly their true flags, problem solved. It isn't like anonymity is mandatory in open source projects.

>>260535
> Just one fork for the US and its vassal states and another fork for the rest of the international community
It should be read as "first world" fork and "the shitholes" fork.

>The Russian Ministry of Digital Development is already proposing a fork of Linux open to international collaboration.
Have your forks, but good luck attracting decent developers.
If the shitholes could make any decent software worth using they won't be spending any time using any US software and hardware from the very first place. But they don't, so here they are crying having 11 of their stooges being sidelined amongst thousands of other workers.

>>260594
The very idea of international collaboration for goodness of all is an inherently liberal idea, and for software, a liberal idea propagated by a Jewish neckbeard. Sharing first world technology to turdworldlers is a liberal mistake that has done nothing but worsening the first world's competitive edge.

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>>260616
>It should be read as "first world" fork and "the shitholes" fork.
Except "the shitholes" fork gets to accept all code from the "first world" while the latter can't use the former's code because muh evil Russian backdoors. Couple some percentage of developers leaving because excluding people based on nationality goes against FOSS principles, the actual free fork has a decent chance to end up more popular. 
Same exact thing happened to LibreOffice when OpenOffice sold out. If Linux stays ahead of whatever they'll call ActuallyOpenLinux, it'll probably be purely because of Linus' cekebrity status, not actual merits of either of the products.

>>260627
My guess would be that it stays ahead simply out of huge amounts of American corporate funding for Linux development.  However, this could also end up spurring more non-Western government funding for libre software development, so maybe that'll somewhat balance it out.  Linux is significantly more popular in places of the world that aren't financialized dystopias in the grip of Microsoft, including Russia.

>>260627
Also it's important to note that these sanctions can only be enforced against projects that hold their copyrights in the US.  So we may see a lot of projects moving their copyrights somewhere else.  The tradeoff of course is that they'll be throwing away their legal standing and thus ability to enforce libre software licenses in US courts.  Any high-profile projects like Linux that regularly need to have their licenses defended against proprietizers will have to remain in the US.  And eventually Western proprietizers might come to realize that libre projects that have moved their copyrights somewhere else are open game for stealing code with legal impunity.

Of course Linus already sold Linux up the river a long time ago by refusing to upgrade to GPLv3.  It's why we have a billion phones today running some form of the Linux kernel but effectively blocking the users from making any modifications to it.

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Of all things, I didn't know my fucking free as in freedom software would be affected by the fucking war special operations Weapon Site Testing in Hoholand.

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>>260638
Yes, but where are the videogames?

>>260639
Sorry, wrong board.

>>260627
>while the latter can't use the former's code because muh evil Russian backdoors.
Wrong. The order does not disallow Linux Foundation copying codes from anywhere, what it does is stopping it from funding people working with blacklisted companies.

>the actual free fork has a decent chance to end up more popular. 
And how many open source software the Russian government has actually seriously funded? They already use a closed source OS like Astra so they don't profit much from funding open source anyway. They are a major money sink without real profit until local big tech companies begin using them which is why most of the time it's the US that funds them 
So what >>260632 thinks is more accurate, you'd end up with 2 forks with the US fork significantly ahead of the other.

>>260634
>I didn't know my fucking free as in freedom software
The same country making freedom software already told you freedom ain't free. If all you do is copying shit, it's time to leave.

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New amd cpu is about to drop, so maybe if you want to buy the old 3d variants they may be dirty cheap, so keep a watch.
Always let the normalfags beta test new chips.

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/weekly-sale
2 14TB datacenter drives for $450. Not a bad deal if you encrypt so you can actually take advantage of the 5 year warranty.

>>260824
Probably SMR, which should really only be used like tape or CDR.

>>260843
WD Golds are CMR always.

>>260850
>WD Golds
You didn't say they were golds nigger.
They're just rebadged ultrastars, good shit. And an actual good deal.

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>>260868
>You didn't say they were golds nigger.
But you can see it yourself in the link he posted. You're lazier than the "nigger".
Then again anons post articles with horribly misguided one liner clickbait here too.

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>>260639
>blacked + gangbang + gay/futa
Absolutely disgusting.

>>260926
That's an old one though. The faggot who made it knew what he was doing.

>>260633
So american copyright will end up like the chinese's?

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>>260926
>some kid doing sex jokes with his nintendo console is now propaganda
I think he only had 2 black controllers and a silver one and went with it.
Why would a controller with a dark paint hue be of african american descent?

>>260988
We can't know if it's propaganda or not but it's gross regardless.

>>260980
Nah, American copyright will stay the same except for international free software.  Greedy intellectual monopolists in the US will still have all their intellectual monopolies preserved, but now as a bonus they'll be able to take international free software, enclose the source code, and transform it into proprietary software.  China's facilitation of international free software may actually be enhanced in the future, as it'll be seen as a bet to hedge against US software hegemony.

>>261016
So It's ripe for copyright trolling? like Russia?

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>>261051
You realize you're replying to a schizo right?

>>261054
Posts like this are a thousand times more worthless than "schizo" posts.

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>>260873
>But you can see it yourself in the link he posted. You're lazier than the "nigger". 
Disabled javascript, pictures didn't load.
Tell me why html requires javascript to load images.
niggers use javascript

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When are the 9800x3d numbers coming out I wanna BUILD already

I'm looking to get a new CPU and I've narrowed it down to the Ryzen 7 7800X3D or the Ryzen 7 5700X3D (not interested in the 5800X3D because that apparently has a 10% performance boost compared to the 5700X3D with twice the power draw). From what I have been able to gather, the X3D versions of Ryzens have large V-caches that give them good performance in gaming, whereas something like the Ryzen 7 7700 might have marginally better all-around performance for something like 3D rendering or video encoding, but won't reach nearly the same peaks when gaming.

The 5700X3D is more available and more affordable ($300 CAD), whereas the 7800X3D is literally more than twice the price and hard to find. I'm leaning towards the 5700X3D since I don't really play modern games that tax the CPU through incompetence and the performance will be a huge upgrade from the 2015-era Intel CPU I have now. 

Anyway, is there anything you think I should know about either X3D model? I did a fair amount of research but I'd like to know if anons have their own experiences or recommendations.

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Surprising noone the new 9800X3D for vidya, but if you already have a 3D cpu you are not missing much, if you don't like to overclock and stuff.

>>261154
Stop bieng poor and buy the 9800X3D. :^)
Go for the 5700X3D, hell you could also go for the 5600X3D and still be fine.

>>261172
That's what I figured. Thanks.

Looks like a 7800 for me

>>257740
>>257741
>>257742
cute rats. I like.

>>261154
Is there any chance you'll upgrade your CPU before just building a machine on a new Mobo/Case? If yes, 5700X3D is pretty much a dead end, but AM5 will keep getting better options. If no, 100% go with the 5700X3D.

>>261253
I'm also getting a new mobo as part of the CPU purchase, so that's why I'm interested in getting a good AM5-socket CPU to last a long time.

How is cpu driven LLM now? Should I invest in a motherboard with more ram slots or just pcie for the muti gpus?
Any good am5 mobos with dual x8 pcie slots?

>>261273
For AI, GPU is more important than CPU.

>>261279
I still need to run those gpus anon. They arent operating in a vacuum.
I did some looking around and the 870E seems to be a better chipset for general gaming use, but the pro version with a dual x8 pcie slot setup is hard as fuck to get over here.

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>>260545 (Me)
Can anyone be kind enough to extra-spoonfeed me? If I have a budget of 350$ and want to build a very cheap NAS, and have a redundancy of 2, and don't mind buying shitty used drives (since the point of redundancy is that you don't lose data if a drive fails), how much TB will I realistically end up having? Doesn't have to be a scientific estimate, just a quick conjecture based on your intuition if you have experience with this sort of stuff.

>>261300
Anon, it is perfectly possible that you could find dozens of terabytes of storage in a garbage bin next to an office, but it is also possible that you are living at a place where even shitty used drives cost more than new ones at other places. The best answer is that you have to get familiar with the local prices.

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>>261309
I don't understand this "the trash is a secret renewable source of cheap computer parts or general useful things, just search it and you'll have a 10%+d20 to find the part your need!" meme, like it's some known RPG mechanic or something. Does anyone seriously go around hunting for office buildings and then dumpster diving looking for PC parts? Has anyone that keeps suggesting this ever done it? Why do people keep repeating this "just look in the trash bro" mantra with absolute certainty?

>>261310
You are missing the point, what I want to say is that the price of used hardware fluctuates too wildly for us to tell anon that he can buy a 5TB hard drive that was used for 73 months in a data center for exactly 16 dollars and 57 cents.

>>261154
>>261269
Update: I am retarded and didn't realize that the 5700X3D is an AM4-socket CPU, which means I shouldn't have considered it.

The problem now is that all the 7000-series CPUs are like twice the price.

>>261348
Well that is a shame AM4 Mobos and ddr4 ram are dirty cheap.

>>261348
The 7500f is worth considering over the 5700/5800X3D, cheaper and faster in anything but the most big cache friendly games, think you can still grab one for sub $150.
A 7800X3D would be better but production has stopped so prices climbed fast, the 9800X3D is scalped to shit and low availability so not much of an option either, the 9950X3D might actually be cheaper for a while.

>>261358
I was doing some more checking and it turns out that, though negligence and laziness, I have wiggled myself into a very awkward situation. My motherboard is pre-AM4 with DDR3 sockets, my current RAM is DDR3, and I have 32GB of DDR4 RAM that I bought a couple years ago when I had been planning to upgrade (which didn't happen since I was lazy).

So now I'm at an awkward crossroads where "upgrading" to an AM4, DDR4 mobo and CPU would mean I'd be on a legacy platform (not necessarily a bad thing), and getting an AM5 mobo, AM5 CPU, and DDR5 RAM would be significantly more expensive. The CPU fan I already bought is compatible with both sockets so I can use that regardless, at least.

The cheapest way out would be to get an AM4, DDR4 mobo and a 5700X3D for reasonable prices and use the RAM I have on hand (and maybe get some for cheap since Black Friday sales are already on). That'd probably last for several years, and I could move onto the AM5 platform once the mobo/CPU prices are no longer crazy.

The "cleaner" alternative would be to say fuck it and get an AM5 CPU, an AM5 mobo, and DDR5 RAM. This would probably be more than double the price. Typing it all out like this, it seems that an AM4 build would make more sense if my goal is not to spend money unnecessarily, while setting up for a clean jump to AM5 in a few years/whenever a sale pops up. Ultimately I'm not going to be playing a ton of modern games at super high resolutions and refresh rates, so that would probably make more sense for me.

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>>261379
Update: found a bundle at my Canadian computer store of choice for a Ryzen 7 7700X, 32GB DDR5 RAM (TeamGroup, which seems to be a fine manufacturer), and an MSI PRO B650M-P mobo for about the same amount of money I'd considered spending to get a flagship DDR4 CPU, mobo, and RAM. The 7700X is a power hog, but I have enough headroom with my PSU that I can comfortably handle it even when it spikes up to 150W in a full-core workload like video rendering. Seems I can move onto the AM5 socket after all.

The only drawback is that the PRO B650M-P is a micro ATX mobo instead of a full ATX one, but it'll still fit in my ATX tower and I confirmed that it has enough ports to handle my current GPU and all my drives. I can keep an eye out for a full ATX mobo when prices drop, and frankly I may not even need it.

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>>261392
>spoiler
THEY COULD'VE CHOSEN ANYTHING
>Ryzen 7 7700X
Not the best for sure but still a solid choice, I have one too
>32GB DDR5 RAM from TeamGroup
Never used it myself but I saw they have good reviews all around. Please, save yourself a headache, double and triple check that the specified RAM model is explicitly compatible with your motherboard by checking the motherboard's compatibility section on the support page of the MSI website. I would assume that since it's a store bundle they'd likely checked themselves in order to pair the items for the bundle but you can never be too sure, better safe than sorry.
>MSI PRO B650M-P
Too bad about the form factor, certainly limiting in terms of features but beggars can't be choosers.

How much are you paying for all of this?

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I found a used colorful 3090ti battle ax for about 690usd in my region, which is tge best price for it here. 
Does anybody know if it's a reliable manufacturer/model?

>>261402
>check that the specified RAM model is explicitly compatible with your motherboard by checking the motherboard's compatibility section on the support page of the MSI website
Everything seems to line up there. This store is also overall reputable and I've had a lot of good experiences with them in the past so I expect they did their homework as well. But you are correct, and that's an angle I didn't cover.

>price
About $490 CAD before tax. My hypothetical flagship AM4 build would have been around $470 CAD before tax.

>>261392
>I can keep an eye out for a full ATX mobo when prices drop, and frankly I may not even need it.
Speaking of which, does the mobo even matter for performance (besides compatibility with components)? There are so many motherboards with widely varying prices and I'm not really sure why.

>>261403
I haven't read any drama from them.

>>261405
For $490 you can't complain, that's a good computer. The worst part is the motherboard, there's almost no chance that it will ever power a Ryzen 9, so you'll have to change it if you want to upgrade in the future.

>>261410
Motherboards don't affect performance unless the VRM is really low quality and physically becomes a bottleneck for overclocking your CPU because you can't send the appropriate amount of voltage. This is pretty rare unless you intentionally buy a super high-end CPU for professional-grade video/3D rendering, big data work, or something of that ilk and don't check to see if the mobo can actually power it.

In my case, the VRM is pretty small: 7 physical blocks on the mobo, compared to some layouts I've seen with upwards of 12 and multiple stages of power conversion to reduce stuttering and provide a smoother signal to the CPU. But even considering this aspect is splitting hairs in the vast majority of use cases.

>>261411
Yeah, especially considering how weak canuck bucks are. This'd be like $360 USD, and for all those components together it's great value. If I do ever upgrade the CPU it'd almost certainly be to a 7___X3D version to have better gaming performance, but this one will likely be so much more powerful than what I'm used to that it'll blow my mind already. The Ryzen 9s are for use cases way outside of what I do with my PC most of the time. I'd be better off simply buying more RAM or HDDS if I had money to burn.

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>>261245
No problem. I meant to reply earlier.

>>261422
>Motherboards don't affect performance unless the VRM is really low quality
VRMs are really low quality most of the time. If you look at any benchmarks the framerate differences even between boards of similar price ranges can vary by up to 20% or more.

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I built my PC exactly 1 year ago and it cost me around 2k monitor included, as an experiment I checked prices of all my parts and with it works out over 3.2k. How's that possible?

>>261428
>How's that possible?

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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D sells out: retailers overwhelmed as scalpers step in
https://archive.vn/20241110152446/https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-sells-out-retailers-overwhelmed-as-scalpers-step-in
Looks like the normalfags will fully beta test the new 9800X3D that is quite different from the previous X3Ds and of course, there are scalpers jewing normalfags.

>>261428
Well, the pricess for SSD are up compared to last year, and I fucked hate myself not buying a couple of SSDs back then.

>>261428
How did you blow so much on your pc?
My first pc was 1200, my second was 1300. Not accounting for peripherals however but both my monitors weren't too bad 130 for my first 25" 60 h, 215 27" 144h

>>261423
Heh that's kinda meta. She's cuter than a handheld rat AND she's fuggable.

>>261442
>Heh that's kinda meta
You mean like how her rat is supposed to mean her pussy?
Because ratgirl?

>>261438
The X3Ds are eating intel alive. Bulldozing taken to its final form.

>>261470
man now i just want a silly rat gf that uses "rat" in place of lewd words.

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Guys, she just has a pet rat. And an eclectic taste in literature.

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>>261504
If I were to impregnate this rat, would it make me a furfag?

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>>261506
Yes, you degenerate.

>>261506
It is a drawing of an animal person. You can't impregnate it and you will die alone.

>>261504
I'm fine with that.
>>261506
You'd be a xenophile actually. Since that's hmofa by nature.
>>261507
you're just mad cute rat girls wont like you.
>>261510
Yeah that's why we use your mom as an outlet :^)

>>261511
>you're just mad cute
UwU you make me blush >///<

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>>261504
>schizophrenic rat
me likey

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>>261523
Excuse you, she is not shizophrenic.

Anyone know the latest NYidia GTX driver that can be inf-modded to work with Windows 7?

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>>261566
Wouldn't it be better to have two computers, one with old hardware running win7 and the new one running loonix?

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Here, help me with my homework, uncle anon

>>261589
>Part 1
Running Emacs.
>Part 2 a
A ThinkPad with its dock, a trackball, a flatscreen, and one of those fancy arm mounts for the monitor.
>Part 2 a
Whatever is your local equivalent of craigslist, and also check out local pawn shops.
>Part 3
Thinkpad thinks, trackball tracks, screen shows the output.
>Part 4
GNU.
>Part 5
Just connect the connectors, the most complicated part will be screwing the VESA mount to the back of the monitor.

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>>261590
It needs to cost at least $1000 max $3000.

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>>261589
Good luck.

>>261578
I do have two computers. I still want to get a newer GTX driver on my Win7 machine.

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>>261996
We could probably get Odamex running on it.

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>>261422
Update: I got the parts from my local store without fuss, and managed to assemble them properly. They are currently enabling me to type this message. Currently keeping an eye out for good deals on HDDs and RAM. There's a good deal on at the same store for a 2TB M.2 SSD that's about half off.

Only two things are niggling at my mind:
- My Peerless Assassin fan is so stupidly large it occupies a lot of what would have otherwise been free space in the case, which means I have almost no room to access stuff at the top of the mobo. It genuinely startled me how fucking heavy the fan towers and fans were, and if this were my first build I'd have obsessed over the sub-1mm curve in the mobo backplate to no end.
- I may not have applied enough thermal paste to the CPU. I know I have a tendency to overapply that stuff, but I was watching a video on installation methods which mentioned that due to the particular design of the frame holding the fan in place, it's possible for it to lean to one side or the other, resulting in uneven contact and uneven heat transfer.

This will all be extremely important when I emulate Sly Cooper 3, I expect.

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>>262024
>My Peerless Assassin fan is so stupidly large
That is why I bought a Noctua NH-U12A.

Can I mix 2 differently sized drives in raid?

>>262042
Yes but it's a really dumb idea. the larger drives will only match the capacity of the smallest, so your smallest drive will dictate everything. There's also probably a bunch of ways doing this can introduce instability to the raid so you should avoid doing this ever.

>>262044
>There's also probably a bunch of ways doing this can introduce instability to the raid
nope
And don't use hardware raid. There's no point anymore.

>>262024
>peerless assasassin fan big
why did you get a peerless assassin instead of the new and improved phantom spirit? also why would a cooler tower bother you that much

>>262038
I considered a Noctua fan but they looked like $10-15 more for effectively the same thing.

>>262050
I'd heard good things about it from a couple friends whose opinions I trust, and the benchmarks I found made it look unbeatable for the price. I'm not a power user so I don't expect I'll be causing the CPU to run hot very much.

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>>262068
>I'd heard good things about it from a couple friends whose opinions I trust, and the benchmarks I found made it look unbeatable for the price. I'm not a power user so I don't expect I'll be causing the CPU to run hot very much.
The phantom spirit is the newer design, over where I live it costs exactly the same while having an extra pipe for each tower and allegedly performing slightly better.
>I considered a Noctua fan but they looked like $10-15 more for effectively the same thing.
The Noctua fan he mentioned is quoted 80 euros extra for the brown version, and 90 for the black one, all while allegedly providing worse cooling performance albeit with less noise. You're literally just paying for the name and a minor noise reduction. I must admit that my phantom spirit's whine is a bit annoying, but I looked up videos comparing the noise levels with a Noctua and the difference while there was marginal. But hey, they recently released a new version called Phantom Spirit EVO which just costs 5 euros more than the original and reviews claim it's better performing while also being much quieter.

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Pardon me for not including a rat with my previous post. Have two.

>>262081
>over where I live it costs exactly the same while having an extra pipe for each tower and allegedly performing slightly better
It's definitely more expensive for me since it's not in stock at my local computer store. Even if the price is the same, shipping and big box retailer markup would be another $20-30 CAD.
>slightly better
>marginal differences
Yeah, that doesn't matter for me.

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>>262082
>Have two.

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>7600
>3050 kalmx
>nh-p1
Dont know what to get for the motherboard. Will get a fanless seasonic psu.

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I asked on /tech/ but I'm also going to ask here.
Is FreeBSD hardware support bad? I want to get some cheap used office workstation and use it as a home server (mainly NAS) running FreeBSD, but I'd want to know in advance if I can run FreeBSD on it,

PS: Not necessarily the one on the picture. I mean just any random one from eBay, probably a ThinkCentre though.

>>262044
>>262049
Wait then what should I use?
The raid card is no good?

>>262295
Freebsd is fine unless you want games or the latest hardware.
It's slightly more of a hassle when it catastrophically breaks than linux, but it doesn't break as long as you keep to stable releases.
>>262304
Software raid (mdraid, zfs, unraid, not btrfs raid5/6) with whatever disks you want.
Disk quality is important, but if you don't care, then don't worry.
Seagate, toshiba, and wd purples are not good choices if you care. WD reds are not good if you powercycle your drives.

>>262306
So I just plug everything in sata ports?
I'm planning to use enterprise drives so brand shouldnt matter right?

>>262311
>So I just plug everything in sata ports? 
Yes as long as the drives are sata.
If you need more sata, get an adapter card. The only problem adapter cards had marvell controllers the last time I checked.

Brand absolutely matters.
Even enterprise seagate are shit.
Seagate is still around because everyone that uses them in enterprise expects to replace them within 3 years and has service contracts with Seagate direct. And they have far more redundancy than you'll ever hope to achieve.

Do single thread benchmarks have any relationship at all to real world performance? I'm asking because a gaymur gurl wants me to build her a new computer to play Overwatch, Ark and Meinkraft and seems to have pretty unrealistic expectations of what she needs to run them (unless she wants to be a streamerthot).

>>262369
Game devs are thrash at multithreading. As a result, a lot of games are more influenced by single thread performance than how many cores there are. More cores is better for calculation intensive tasks like compiling code or rendering shit in Blender. But vidya doesn't really care as long as it's at least a few cores.
For a gayming rig, just get her one of the AMD X3D CPUs that fits her budget. For streamerthottery a good Nvidjewya GPU is more important, since OBS has better encoders for those. Don't think many people use CPU encoding.

>>262371
That's pretty much what I was thinking, thanks.

>>262369
>because a gaymur gurl wants me to build her
Charge her unless your banging her regularly.
200USD/15min is the going rate for whores in the US. Price accordingly.

>>262395
Of course I'm gonna charge, and she's paying for the parts up front.

>>262368
>Brand absolutely matters
Welp both HGST/Toshiba guys I found were flakes so I guess I'm fucked.
At least WD stopped being shit.

>PSU died after 10 or so years 
What are some good manufacturers these days?

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>>262369
>relationship at all to real world performance?
Yes, but it depends on what gayms/application you're trying to play.
As Anons already mentioned video games in general either prefer single-threaded workloads or fail to scale past a certain number of threads you can blame the 2011-2017 period of AMD almost dying from Microshaft, Novidya and Inthell jewery for that, post-Ryzen games should still benefit somewhat from higher core counts but they won't need or get much use out of CPUs with all the cores.
Older games and emulators are a different story, emus prefer single-threaded performance unanimously both due to timing constraints and older hardware usually being single-core in the first place, emus with multithreading either hacked on for performance or done out of necessity in the case of the emulated hardware being multicore will either scale poorly, not at all or sometimes in reverse beyond a certain thread/core count Demon's Souls on RPCS3 does this though they'll still benefit from silicon optimizations aimed at better MT performance to a degree.
Pre-2017 games usually fail to scale past muh 4 cores 8 breads while embracing Intel's CoC with pre-2008 titles often having no or only the barest multi-threading capability available, Games such as the OG Crysis, GTA IV and Toddblivion can still deliver heavy framedrops if not dogshit all around performance even on a system way above the recommended CPU specs, especially when mods with increased draw distance/LoD are involved.
External tools to hack in multi-threading into old games exist, but short of a sourceport they suffer from the same scaling problems as emulators and tend to be quite unreliable so with old games the Hz number of your CPU is still a good off-hand performance indicator.

>>262577
seasonic performs better than advertised on the box, comes with 10 year warranty and is priced fairly

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dup just promised +10% prices on everything coming out of china and +25% on everything coming out of Mexico, if you need any electronics in the next 4 years buy them now.

>>262583
What electronics come from Mexico?

>>262584
Before the jews moved everything to China to ruin western economies, they were exploiting NAFTA to move burger manufacturing to Mexico. After the last round of tariffs (which bidup didn't rescind, by the way) some companies moved final assembly back into Mexico to evade them.

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I have realized that - after adding a new mobo, new CPU, new CPU fan, new RAM, and purchasing a new SSD and HDD - my trusty old computer case has absolute trash thermal performance for air flow. Sure, air comes in the front well enough from a case fan, and it gets pushed out the back and top by the CPU fan and other case fans, but the overall design of the thing is a big, black box that obviously didn't have air flow as its top priority. What I had thought was a great feature when I bought it - a rack of HDD trays that sits in the front of the case and can hold like a dozen of them - has actually probably hurt me in the long run. While the option for modular storage was nice, it was also a relic of its time since the case was made around 2014-2015 (Fractal Arc Midi with the glass side panel, if you're curious). At that time, computers were just things you threw hardware into, and fans just pushed air across them without too much hand wringing about where the cool air would come from and how it would actually be helped to move across the parts radiating heat.

These days, I could actually get more storage in a better configuration with fewer total drives, leaving more room in the case. As you can see from my artistic interpretation here, the upper half of the drive rack obstructs cool air from entering the case in the first place, causing it to mingle with heated air from the drives before it even reaches the CPU, GPU, PSU, mobo, and RAM. The majority of air that ever touches them is hot, radiant air that has been lingering in the case. And let's not talk about the rat's nest of cables that further obstruct things and cause air turbulence, further muddying the water air.

Now, I have used some cable management as best I could, but another thing about this case is it lacks a strong cable management back panel, so snaking anything behind the mobo and then actually plugging it in is very tough. Now that the CPU fan is installed, it's literally impossible to make changes to the configuration without removing the fan, which itself is an undertaking that would require removing the mobo in any practical circumstance. I could also simply remove the upper half of the drive rack, which would help cool air flow into the case but wouldn't solve the underlying problem of that cool air becoming contaminated by the drives before it reaches the CPU and GPU.

Any time in the last 9 years that I've thought about changing my case, I encountered one of two problems that discouraged me:
- All new cases seemed to be these weird fishtank/glass/spaceship designs that put way too much effort on looking like epic gamer battlestations rather than practically holding computer parts.
- They're too small. They might have the same dimensions as my current case, but the total amount of interior space is anywhere from 2/3rds to 3/4ths of what I have now.

However, I have been doing some research (to wit: watching GamersNexus videos) and I have discovered a case that would actually give me the same or slightly more space and significantly improve the air cooling performance. That case is the Fractal North XL. It is literally the only case I've seen in the last few weeks that is physically larger than my current one, and the design is nice understated black metal with dark wood panels and gold buttons. No spaceship lights, no bullshit.

Only problem is that it's out of stock near where I live.

>>262591
"air flow" and "thermal performance" are really not that important in a case, if you're gonna shun advice about coolers I don't see why you would care about this stuff

>>262592
>shun advice
Is that what you call it when I buy something that fits my needs and you ask why I didn't buy a more expensive thing I didn't know about, and then I tell you I didn't know about it?

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>>262592
Cooler isn't going to matter if the case has no airflow you dumb nigger.

>>262595
Yeah, that was the chart in one of the videos I saw. I don't think there are any benchmarks for my current case, but it definitely produces more heat than it should.

For all I said about the XL, there's a regular Fractal North on sale at my local store for $170 CAD, which is definitely as good as it's going to get for the next several years.

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What have you bought in this blackday season, anons? Anything good out there?
>>262577
Seasonic, the damn brand is so good that other brands just let them make their PSU and later put their logo on them.
>>262591
Modify your case, drill holes and mount fans on it.

>>262600
>drill holes
Mouse holes?

Let's call that plan C, for when I take my current case, stuff it full of old HDDs and turn it into a seed/media box.

>>262600
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>seasonic 
Thanks I’ll check them out.

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Which one of this 4tb SSDs is the best option for holding videogames and roms?

>>262600
>Look up blackfriday "deals"
>$100 NOW ONLY $90
Yeah I liked it better when you had to murder people to get the deal instead of there being no deals unless a company is just trying to empty a warehouse.

>>262606
I'd trust WD far more than any other non-established brand.

>>262606
I had a WD Blue for a year and a half for my Drive to load games on and it kill itself for said amount of time. Practically lost some saves thanks to me being paranoid with Backing Up shit. 
It's not a good drive in the long run. Mind you, I was constantly writing and reading data, loading and downloading games practically every day, so your millage my very on a few factors. I'm pretty much a Workstation faggot so that my words with some grain of salt. 
I would invest in something that is going to last you for a good while.
> https://ssd.borecraft.com/
Check the list and go with a more higher end model since they are build with longevity in mind. Even if the price is high, you would be saving more if you just buy the quality shit now than pay for it later.

>>262606
get an nvme instead

In the process of looking now. Its a real pain having to check the stats for different motherboards and processors and gpus.
I work remotely so I should be able to take it off my tax returns at least.

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I remember reading once on this board about some anon getting into the specifics of microphones and recording audio outdoors with minimal noise.
Can someone give me a rundown on field recording autism? Specially if I don't intend on blowing stupid money on some brand and don't mind something amateurish.