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>Advice on building or upgrading
Post your build list or current specifications, including a monitor: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (like playing vidya, editing or programming).
Specify your budget and region.
Think twice before deciding to buy something to avoid buyer's remorse.

>Motherboards
At least one PCIe 4.0 M.2 slot.
Good VRM (power delivery) is required for CPUs like the i5 13500 and above.
Don't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset.

>CPUs
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: 5600G, 14100/12100
Vidya: 7600, 7500F, 12600K, 12700KF; budget: 5600, 12400F
Overkill vidya: 7800X3D; alternate: 14600K/13600K
Workstation: 7950X, 14700K, 7900X; budget: i5 13500
AM4 upgrade: 5600, 5800X3D
Avoid iGPU-less CPUs, 5600X (if it is more expensive than the 5600)

>CPU coolers
Air: Phantom Spirit EVO/Peerless Assassin 120 SE; budget: Freezer 36 Air
Liquid: Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Avoid liquid coolers with a single 120mm fan.

>RAM
DDR4: Zen3/AM4 - 2x 16GB 3600 MT/s CL18; for locked "non-K" 12th/13th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 3200 MT/s CL16
DDR5: Zen4/AM5 - 2x 16GB 6000 MT/s CL30; for unlocked "K" 13th/14th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 6400MT/s CL32
Slower kits are also fine, if much cheaper. Just make sure you check the benchmark comparisons.
Note that the sweetspots are bound to change with the upcoming Zen5 and Meteor Lake processors.

>SSDs
Avoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus, cheapest poorfag NVMe SSDs.
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>GPUs
Avoid: GPUs that were used for shitcoin mining, 4070 Ti, 4060 Ti, 3050, NVIDIA GPUs in general if you're a Linuxfag.
1080p: used 3070/3060 Ti, 4060/3060 12 GB, 7600/6650 XT/6600 XT; budget: 6600; poorfag: used 2060
1440p: 4070S/4070, 7900 GRE; budget: 6700 XT
2160p: 4080S/4080 (at MSRP); budget: 4070S Ti (avoid MSI models), 7900 XT/XTX
Production: 4090, used 3090; budget: 4060 Ti 16GB; poorfag: 3060 12GB

>12VHPWR
DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
Fully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt.

>PSUs
Avoid: untested units, Bronze/Silver rated (assuming you live in yuroland).
Not worth buying a new PSU unless it's ATX 3.0 compliant.
Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load.
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ (archive: https://archive.is/jzJ2L )
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (archive: https://archive.is/QrPHX)

>Case (from $ to $$$)
mATX: I don't fucking know.
ATX: Lian Li Lancool 216, Lian Li Lancool III, Fractal Torrent.
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 4000D airflow, Montech AIR 903 Base (awful stock fans).

>Monitors
Avoid: panels with less than 120 Hz refresh rates, without a single DisplayPort input and Variable Refresh Rate technology (G-Sync/FreeSync).
Check professional reviews for any monitor before you buy at sites like TFTCentral, pcmonitors.info, Monitors Unboxed, or RTINGs.
The bottom tier monitor for any decent gaming build has a 144+ Hz 24" 1080p IPS panel, of which there are many on market for around $125 (some great ones go even as low as $100).
Aim for a panel with low response times and perceived motion blur mode (Black Frame Insertion).
1440p 27" high refresh IPS is a common target for many new builds. 1440p is relatively easy to drive with even mid-range graphics cards.
Decent 2160p (4K) gaming monitors start at around $500.
OLED monitors have good HDR (including infinite contrast) and nearly instant pixel response times. However, potential burn-in is an important consideration for OLED monitors.
TL;DR: They all suck.

>OS
Install Ventoy on a flash drive, then transfer the iso files to it.
You can activate Windows with KMS_VS_ALL:
https://github.com/abbodi1406/KMS_VL_ALL_AIO/releases
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The fuck happened?
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>>266976 perhaps releasing 900watt furnace and asking 3000$ for it was not the best move on top of Chinese proving that western softtware is GARBAGE
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>>266978
>almost 900watts
Just buy a bigger PSU, goy.
>Chinese proving that western softtware is GARBAGE
Chinese AI chatbot DeepSeek sparks market turmoil
https://archive.ph/20250127152652/https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qw7z2v1pgo
>Shares in major US technology firms have fallen steeply in value after the sudden emergence of a low-cost chatbot built by a Chinese artificial intelligence (AI) firm.
>The DeepSeek app, which was launched last week, has overtaken rivals including ChatGPT to become the most downloaded free app in the United States.
Shares in chip giant Nvidia fell 10% while Microsoft and Meta were also lower in early trading in the US on Monday.
>The chatbot was reportedly developed for a fraction of the cost of its rivals, raising questions about the future of America's AI dominance and the scale of investments US firms are planning.
>It is powered by the open source DeepSeek-V3 model, which its researchers claim was developed for less than $6m (£7.5m) - significantly less than the billions spent by rivals.
>But this claim has been disputed by others in the AI space.
>The researchers say they use already existing technology, as well as open source code - software that can be used, modified or distributed by anybody free of charge.
>DeepSeek's emergence comes as the US is restricting the sale of the advanced chip technology that powers AI to China.
>To continue their work without steady supplies of imported advanced chips, Chinese AI developers have shared their work with each other and experimented with new approaches to the technology.
>This has resulted in AI models that require far less computing power than before. It also means that they cost a lot less than previously thought possible, which has the potential to upend the industry.
>After DeepSeek-R1 was launched earlier this month, the company boasted of "performance on par with" one of ChatGPT maker OpenAI's latest models - when used for tasks such as maths, coding and natural language reasoning.
>Silicon Valley venture capitalist and Donald Trump advisor Marc Andreessen described DeepSeek-R1 as "AI's Sputnik moment", a reference to the satellite launched by the Soviet Union in 1957.
>At the time, the US was considered to have been caught off-guard by their rival's technological achievement.
>DeepSeek's popularity has startled markets. ASML, the Dutch chip equipment maker, saw its share price tumble by more than 10% while shares in Siemens Energy, which makes hardware related to AI, plunged by 21%.
>"This idea of a low-cost Chinese version hasn't necessarily been forefront, so it's taken the market a little bit by surprise," said Fiona Cincotta, senior market analyst at City Index.
>"So, if you suddenly get this low-cost AI model, then that's going to raise concerns over the profits of rivals, particularly given the amount that they've already invested in more expensive AI infrastructure."
>And Singapore-based technology equity advisor Vey-Sern Ling told the BBC it could "potentially derail the investment case for the entire AI supply chain".
>But Wall Street banking giant Citi cautioned that while DeepSeek could challenge the dominant positions of American companies such as OpenAI, issues faced by Chinese firms could hamper their development.
>"We estimate that in an inevitably more restrictive environment, US access to more advanced chips is an advantage," its analysts said in a report.
>Last week, a consortium of US tech firms and foreign investors announced The Stargate Project, a company which is putting $500bn into AI infrastructure in Texas.
>Who founded DeepSeek?
>The company was founded in 2023 by Liang Wenfeng in Hangzhou, a city in southeastern China.
>The 40-year-old, an information and electronic engineering graduate, also founded the hedge fund that backed DeepSeek.
>He reportedly built up a store of Nvidia A100 chips, now banned from export to China. Experts believe this collection - which some estimates put at 50,000 - led him to launch DeepSeek, by pairing these chips with cheaper, lower-end ones that are still available to import.
>Mr Liang was recently seen at a meeting between industry experts and the Chinese premier Li Qiang.
>In a July 2024 interview with The China Academy, Mr Liang said he was surprised by the reaction to the previous version of his AI model.
>"We didn't expect pricing to be such a sensitive issue," he said.
>"We were simply following our own pace, calculating costs, and setting prices accordingly."
>Deepseek is open source and can be run locally
What were the chinks thinking?!
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>>266979
You will not buy shit any time soon
every sane American about to try and make Biden out of clay 
"President Trump is preparing to place tariffs beyond Chinese assembled electronics to computer chips made in Taiwan, warning the tariffs could reach as high as 100%."
>>266987

deepseek doesn't require imported hardware, the model weights are freely available.

>>266979
>What were the chinks thinking?!
Crashing this AI market, with no survivors!
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>>266987
Oh shit, normalfags are about to miss their new iPhag releases every 6 months.
>>266988
Your entire economy relies on imported hardware
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>>266990
Yeah it's pretty fucked actually. Even manufacturing requires PLC's which are Taiwanese made iirc.
>>266976
>>266979
>>266988
Give it a few days to see if it's actually blowing people's sock's off.
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>>266990
GPUs and computers sufficiently powerful enough to run deepseek already exist around the world. We don't need to import *Chinese* hardware for that, is what I should have said. I'm just failing to see how your original post is a response to the question.
>>266992
I don't think it matters. Unless the benchmarking done so far has a major blindspot, it's already a potential killing blow for Microsoft and Google's AI teams. Their technology is 10x less efficient than it'd be if they had competent engineers. All their trade secrets are obsolete. They are back to square one competing with skiddies running independent services. They have no edge. They are a laughingstock and a liabilty. The only thing that might save OpenAI is to push for a shit ton of regulation to suppress competition. (Which they've had in the works for a while.) The past few days we've seen a hard denial phase, and it appears to already be moving on to panic.
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>heretechs try to remake the economy with a technology that goes against the old adage of garbage in - garbage out, because it can output garbage even if the input consists of correct data
<some autistic chinks might just end the whole circus with the power of open source software
Praise the fucking Omnissiah!
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>>266994
The thing is the model code is supposedly hyper-optimized for the A100, which is the only thing the CCP was able to get for them in quantity on the black market. Also now that the other secret of how it's so efficient is out (encoding topic-level weights as a net when training instead of trying to outsource that knowledge to "experts" that they can put tollbooths in front of) you can bet your ass OpenAI is working overtime to rewrite GPT to use the same technique. This isn't joever quite yet, but I still hope it fucks over nvidia to the fullest extent possible.
>>266995
>this asshole again
daily reminder you'd be servitorized before your balls dropped if you were actually born on a forge world
>>266987
Should buy some SSD before they go up in price.
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>>267032
Did the Canada/Mexico tariffs go through? No they didn't. Until the USTR says something it's all saber rattling to try to distract people from eggs costing $2 each.
>>267042
> eggs costing $2 each.
How in the fuck does the country with the biggest chicken population on earth have trouble getting eggs at a reasonable pricepoint?
0.17€ per eggs where I'm at, feels good man
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>>267043
1. jews
2. bird flu epidemic, since chicken farms are just giant mosh pits they don't bother isolating the sick birds and just kill the entire flock; theoretically they could practice some form of quarantine but
3. jews
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>>267042
Eggs are a luxury. We usually eat cup ramen.
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>>267042
>>267045
>>267049
What's funny is that people are running on eggs as if hoarding will fix it, eggs are perishable.
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WEW
>>266987
Well, shit then. I was about to buy the new RTX 5090 as well  as upgrading my whole pc for Doom Dark Ages. In canuck bucks, too. Fuck that Orange MIGA kike! I hope all of the migatards die a horrible death from super GRIDs after comissar schlomo rapes their little negholes.
>>267061
>In canuck bucks
Canada wouldn't be affected by a tariff in the USA. The fuck?
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>>267062
They will raise prices in every country to cover losses in America.
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>>267063
That would be true if demand would not crater as a result. The price will drop in the short term as retailers are faced with a glut of the things.
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>>267064
They will just make less GPUs.
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>>267065
That is also a long-term adjustment.
Fuck, let me economicsfag for a second.

Nvidia GPUs are manufactured and assembled overseas - the price of actually making the product has not increased. The retail price in the US will increase due to tariffs - demand will be reduced.

In the short term, the stock of GPUs which are already sitting at wholesalers and retailers will need to drop in price to sell the excess supply to other countries. Otherwise these sellers will be sitting on product for which the market has been priced out.
In the long term, yes, Nvidia will likely increase prices elsewhere to cover losses (not majorly but maybe 10-20% or so) and make fewer GPUs. These are supply-side corrections which will take years to materialize.
>>267061
>>267063
Cry harder Canacuck, once again your country shows how utterly powerless it is as Big Bro America makes decisions for your whole geopolitical sphere.
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>>266979
Someone just one-uped this: https://archive.ph/w3SqL
>Dreamcast's Ad Campaign Finally Comes True In 2025 – The Console Really Is "Thinking"
<This was, of course, complete marketing nonsense, but hackers have actually made it more convincing by porting over the llama2.c 'Large Language Model' to the console.
<"Thanks to sauce's llama2.c LLM port, your Sega Dreamcast can now become an AI-driven sentient being which can generate responses to user prompts," says @falco_girgis. "As it turns out, the SH4 can actually do a decent amount to HW accelerate the core matrix routines, despite them being a bajillion-by-a-bajillion elements, rather than the typical 4x4 affine matrices seen in computer graphics."
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>>267176
And it's already out of stock everywhere online
>>267183
LLMs neither think nor are they sentient.
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>>267189
Thinking =\= sentience
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>>267191
It's true.  I rarely think and I'm sentient
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So, what is the best GPU card for windows 7?
I want to make an old pc to run windows 7.
>>267201
RTX 3090
Last driver for Win7 is 472.12
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>>267201
Both RX 6000 and RTX 30 have win7 drivers, not really lacking for choice. Motherboard drivers for anything released this decade is the hard part.
>>267202
475.14, still getting security updates.
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>>267201
>best GPU for win7
There's a bunch of fanmade Win7-compatible drivers for a variety of AMD GPUs based off the official Linux driver floating about.
>>267203
>Motherboard drivers for anything released this decade is the hard part.
As someone who's using Windows 7, I can attest that the MSI B450-A Pro Max is compatible. Though it's a little "old" at this point was it was announced and released back in 2020.
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>>267216
How do I make AM5 compatible with Win7?
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>>267217
I would not know. My CPU and motherboard are designed for the AM4 chipset.
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>Both RX 6000 and RTX 30 have win7 drivers, not really lacking for choice. Motherboard drivers for anything released this decade is the hard part.
I'm going to use old used hardware from the W7 era, instead of hacking w7 to run with new hardware.
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>>267223
>I'm going to use old used hardware from the W7 era
Why even ask for the best GPU then? Most RTX 30 cards released after win11 and should be fully compatible with win7 except for the USB-C versions.
>instead of hacking w7 to run with new hardware
No one mentioned any hacking. Either there are no win7 drivers or there is, even if you have to troll the NVMe/USB3/NIC makers sites rather than the motherboard support page to find them.
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Since this week you can actually go to the store and buy a 9800X3D without reservation or scalpers (at least where I live), so now is the time to choose a mobo - and I hate it.
Even though X670/X870 chipsets allow 8 SATA ports, most manufacturers decided to put 4 or just 2 on regular ATX boards. There are some with 6 ports, but they are rare and hard to come by.
So I have to rely on PCIe to SATA expansion card to plug in all of my drives....
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>>267230
I was asking the best gpu when win7 was still alive and well.
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>>267241
And how would you define that? Those GPUs are supported on win7. I was using win7 as my main desktop OS until last year. When is your arbitrary cutoff? When win7 mainstream support ended in 2015? When the last extended support version was released in 2023? Pre-DX12 cards? Even though that gimp your performance for no real reason and fuck you over on Vulkan support?
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>>267257
that's pretty good right?
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>>267257
Not the best OEM but still a very nice buy

>>267240
X670E Taichi or try one of those NVMe to SATA thing
Technically Asus PRIME B650M-A AX II but that VRM is straight garbage

>>267241
The main limiting factor of a "no hacky shit" win7 build is the CPU, since the best you get is 6700k / 6950X
Granted there's apparently a few B350 motherboards with Win7 drivers officially, so a 5800X/5800X3D is doable as well
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>>267274
>The main limiting factor of a "no hacky shit" win7 build is the CPU, since the best you get is 6700k / 6950X
Why would you be limited to those? Plenty of 9th gen boards listed official win7 drivers if you don't want to mess around.
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>>267279
Windows doesn't like it when you use 7th gen and up, it locks the windows update service, which you might think is okay but some useful things depend on it last I checked, not that you can't bypass it but then it's hacky shit, sort of.
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>>267288
Stop shitting the website with your spam.
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>>267294
Why are you replying to yourself?
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>>267295
Not everyone you disagree with is a samefag.
>>267286
I can assure you that no such thing happens, ran win7 on a 9th gen for years.
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>>267257
Great, now sell it in ebay for 600 dollars.
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>>267257
Nice shoes anon.
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>>267274
>X670E Taichi
Sadly that´s an EATX board, so I would have to buy a new case.
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>>267251
>And how would you define that?
Take the most demanding game that still supports Windows 7 and find which card runs it perfectly. Anything more would be overkill.
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>>267061
I too hope the orange kike dies of Super grids and I am an American. The only way he could bring back semiconductor manufacturing is with a homogenous country of white people.
>>267312
also you'd need to update the bios somehow
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If you have a toaster PC and just want to play some modern/semi-modern games, is buying a second hand jailbreakable PS4 for 100 bucks better than upgrading your PC (especially considering graphics card prices in the current age etc)?
>>267333
yes
>>267333
It depends on your preferences. PS6 might be backwards compatible with both PS4 and PS5 (highly doubt it, but who knows). Otherwise, I'll get a PS5 when it's reasonably priced (for the dozen PS4 and any potential late-gen PS5 exclusives) on top of saving up for better PC parts. I know that if I just settled for a console I'd probably miss out on some niche titles that aren't on any console but still can't run on my toaster (in addition to up-to-date emulation, mods, etc.).
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>>267332
>you'd need to update the bios somehow
Most motherboards these days have a feature called "Bios Flashback", usually you just stick a USB drive into a certain port on the I/O side with the required file in it and then push a button to update the bios.
>>267333
>If you have a toaster PC
Post your PC, half-satan.
>>267333
It depends on your specs. I use computer for a lot of things in addition to gaming, so  I would  personally rather upgrade my computer. I don't know how easy it's to pirate games on the jailbroken PS4 but I assume you can just copy the iso to a hard drive and it will just work, right? But if it's not that easy, you should really consider upgrading your PC, in my opinion. Another thing to consider is the fact that PS4 is probably not getting many new games and PC is more future poof. If you build a good PC, you probably don't need to do anything else besides upgrading the GPU and your  PC will be good for like 10 years in total.  But on the other hand, you need to pay more than $100 for the upgrade. But I prefer computers because they are easier to upgrade and it's very easy to replace broken parts. But the price of the PS4 is pretty good, though. It's not an easy choice.
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Users report bricked or unstable RTX 5090 and 5080 cards — root cause to be determined
https://archive.is/20250206183953/https://www.yahoo.com/tech/users-report-bricked-unstable-rtx-141900362.html?guccounter=1
>Widespread reports from users on Chinese forums and Reddit suggest that initial instabilities observed with Nvidia's RTX 50 GPUs could extend beyond simple PCIe 5.0 compatibility problems. The diverse nature of the reports makes it hard to identify a single root cause; with users experiencing initialization failures, GPU-bricking drivers, PCIe 5.0 instability, and the list goes on. A cursory "RTX 5090/5080 failure reddit" Google search yields multiple accounts of users facing issues with these GPUs. Nvidia has yet to comment on this matter and thus it is difficult to deduce whether these teething problems stem from incomplete software, broken hardware, or something else.
>Yesterday, we covered an instance where two melted 16-pin cables were mistakenly attributed to the RTX 5090. With the number of precautionary measures Nvidia and AIBs are taking, it is unlikely we'll run into any meltdowns, at least that's what we hope. Several reviewers suggested a potential flaw in Nvidia's FE-model design that leads to PCIe signal integrity degradation. Thus, a number of those lucky enough to get their hands on an RTX 50-series card have reported their GPU failing to boot in PCIe 5.0 mode. However, these new reports expand beyond Founders Edition models and also affect custom variants from AIBs, including the China-exclusive RTX 5090D.
>From the screenshots attached below, several users report GPU initialization failures and black screens after installing the latest drivers from Nvidia. In one instance, the RTX 5080 only works in PCIe 2.0 mode. A driver rollback reportedly solves most of these problems, however, a subset of users report their GPU is no longer recognized by their motherboard or Windows, making it impossible to rollback drivers. A user speculates that the latest drivers can potentially burn an IC (Integrated Circuit) on the GPU, rendering it unusable.
>It is tough to say what's causing these problems. A majority of incidents suggest immature Blackwell architecture drivers from Nvidia. As it stands, these users have no other option than to RMA their GPUs. There is no word on when they'll receive a replacement as retailers may take weeks to replenish RTX 50 inventory.
>A report alleges that AIBs had little to no time to test these GPUs ahead of launch. This lack of time likely didn't allow vendors to polish the VBIOS sufficiently, or push appropriate BIOS updates on their motherboards to enable full RTX 50 series compatibility, but that's just a guess.
Remember, let the normalfags beta test new hardware.
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>>267333
PC is far more versatile, gives you more options for games, and a much better purchase in the long run. Depends a lot on what you currently have and what you want to play, but I would upgrade over getting any console.
>>267333
As someone who was a poorfag with a toaster for years, and that played console on the side I'd rather have a toaster than can play a myriad of old games, modsand some new games rather than a modern console than can only play a select few modern games.
Monster Hunter Wilds struggles to run native 1080p using the most popular GPU on Steam, Nvidia’s RTX 3060
https://archive.is/20250206203359/https://www.pcguide.com/news/monster-hunter-wilds-struggles-to-run-native-1080p-using-the-most-popular-gpu-on-steam-nvidias-rtx-3060/
>Modern PC gaming has become increasingly demanding compared to games from 5-10 years ago. We saw this with Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, which not only had GPU hardware ray tracing as a minimum requirement but also restricted full ray tracing (path tracing) to Nvidia GPUs only; not even AMD’s flagship 7900 XTX could use it. Doom: The Dark Ages also introduced ray tracing as a requirement. In other words, your old Nvidia GTX GPU simply isn't good enough anymore.
>Now, it seems some RTX owners are also being pushed into the same category as older GTX GPUs. Benchmarks from the upcoming RPG Monster Hunter Wilds show the RTX 3060 struggling to maintain a consistent 60 FPS at 1080p. Although the game doesn't release until February 28th, Capcom has provided a free benchmark PC tool that lets you test how well MHW will run on your system before making the final purchase. And spoiler alert – it's not looking good for mid-range PC gamers.
>Developers optimizing their games? The fuck are you talking goy? Buy a 5090!
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>>267770
I wonder why?
>denuvo
Of course.
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>>267755
>GPU brickings
Because putting 75% of the "driver" in the vBios makes total sense.
>A user speculates that the latest drivers can potentially burn an IC (Integrated Circuit) on the GPU, rendering it unusable.
Sounds like a dedicated planned obsolescence feature with absolutely no jewish involvement whatsoever.
>>267770
>forced gay tracing
Also known as vidya industry suicide any%.
Could this critical shortage of GPUs required for ((( modern ))) vidya lead to a revival of Arcades?
If it keeps going with no crash thanks to Federal reserve kabbalistic magicks then PC gayman won't be a thing outside of old games and emulators with no ray tracing requirement, and console manufacturers will do everything not to have any games on their systems leaving the servant-class normalfag who wants to play recent games that aren't ass manufactured Korean Live2D shekelholes or interactive movies but can't afford a used 20,000$ budget gaming rig on Craigslist with few options.
>>267755 (checked)
>Remember, let the normalfags beta test new hardware.
So we've gone from letting idiots preorder games (software) then finding out it was all buggy shit/they're beta testers to beta testing 2K$+ hardware. Wew lad. Nvidia has really fallen. Wonder what retarded farts Jensen Huang will squirt out to act as if this is no big deal and don't forget "BUY MORE SO YOU SAVE MORE". Can't forget that gem. If you grabbed this trash you ruined your PC, and at a discount!
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>>267333
Short answer: no.
Long answer: pic related.
Even longer answer:

I'll go against the grain by saying that a jailbroken PS4 for purely offline play isn't the worst thing in the world, and if you could both upgrade your PC with meaningful parts AND get that PS4 then you'd probably have access to a wide variety of games (I'm assuming jailbreaking the PS4 would let it run emulators well). One thing not many anons are aware of is that the PS4, by virtue of being the Default Video Game Interface Device for like a decade straight, has amassed an enormous library of ports, rereleases, remasters, and so on. It has a pretty huge library to explore, and there is a benefit to having a plug-and-play box connected to a CRT for that nice real pixel fuzz.

HOWEVER:
- The PS4 firmware is asinine and a huge pain the ass to navigate. I know this because I've done it many times, and Sony never patched it to be good.
- The PS4's cheap-ass HDD has terrible load times, even for simple games that weren't demanding back in 2014.
- Basically every modern game releases onto PC these days, and they are rarely optimized for console limits. Expect to play the inferior port with worse performance.
- Many of the remasters and rereleases I speak of are of dubious quality, not just due to modern remaster syndrome but due to the people who are holding onto the series/rights not giving a tin shit about what happens to the games or knowing what input lag and upscaling mean. It's not an exaggeration to say that most arcade ports to PS4 would be better experienced in an emulator on your toaster.
- All shooters will always suck on console.
- A lot of games being made now just kind of suck, not even in a bombastic way. I remember paying attention to All Games Delta during the PS4's run and there were a lot of games that looked promising only to fall short and cement themselves as mediocre wastes of time and energy.

Like, seriously, I think you'd be better finding a ROMset for your console of choice and just playing them on your PC if you want to have the most fun with the least effort.
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RISC-V Mainboard for Framework Laptop 13 is now available
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>We’re happy to share that DeepComputing’s DC-ROMA RISC-V Mainboard for Framework Laptop 13 is now in stock and shipping in the Framework Marketplace. This is very much a developer-focused board to help accelerate maturing the software ecosystem around RISC-V, so we recommend waiting for future RISC-V products if you’re looking for a consumer-ready experience. We shared more detail on the Mainboard in an earlier blog post and video, but as a quick summary, this is powered by a StarFive JH7110 processor that uses the open source RISC-V ISA. The team at DeepComputing designed it to drop directly into a Framework Laptop 13 chassis or Cooler Master Mainboard Case. They have published setup guides for the hardware and for installing Ubuntu and Fedora.
>To make it easier to jump into using a new partner-developed Mainboard or reusing an old one, we’re also introducing the Framework Laptop 13 Shell today. This is a complete Framework Laptop 13 chassis with everything except for the Mainboard, memory, storage, and Wi-Fi. We’re eager to continue making Framework products excellent platforms to extend on. Modularity and open source documentation is good for everyone!
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>>267812
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>>267333
I use my PS4 to play the Yakuza, Sonic and Souls series, which are the only modern games I play. A PS3 to play PS1 and PS2 games on a CRT TV and the rest I play on my mid-range toaster.
>>267868
Sounds mega comfy.
Nvidia says it's investigating RTX 50-series GPUs with widespread issues
https://archive.is/20250207180754/https://www.neowin.net/news/nvidia-says-its-investigating-rtx-50-series-gpus-with-widespread-issues/
>Owners of the Nvidia RTX 5080 and RTX 5090 graphics cards are complaining about a raft of issues, including frequent crashes, but most importantly, persistent black screens. It seems that the problems have reached critical mass, with reports emerging across various online platforms.
>These issues happen in very different sets of circumstances—some users report only a black screen upon changing resolution or refresh rates while others observe the problem occurring under heavy usage or when making use of multi-monitor configurations. This inconsistency carries forward into how the problem takes effect; for certain users, the effects do not disappear even with a hard reboot, whereas other end users can access intermittent functionality.
>Oddly, the problems do not seem to be limited to the new RTX 50-series cards, as there are also reports of identical problems with some RTX 40-series GPUs, suggesting that Nvidia's latest 572.16 driver release is the culprit.
>Nvidia has acknowledged the reported issues (reported by PC Gamer) and is currently investigating the matter. The response from the company indicates that it is aware of the problems and is working to find a resolution. However, RTX 50-series owners may need to exercise caution or consider alternative driver versions until an official fix is made available.
>On the other hand, both the new SKUs, especially the RTX 5090, have been extremely limited in stock. We've reported that some major retailers in the UK confirmed that restocking could take up to 16 weeks for the RTX 5090 and up to six weeks for the RTX 5080.
The normalfags are still beta testing new gpus.
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>>267902
>most of these were probably bought from some scalper
No refunds, goy
>>267902
>extremely limited stock
>widespread IC/PCB problems
It's almost as if nVidia is deliberately offloading hardware testing to its consumers Fauci-style.
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>>267919
I never got the whole fauci thing, wasn't it some other guy who was partying during lockdown?
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>>268003
>my fellow gamers
Which of you niggers wrote this?
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Looks like they can't make gpus normalfag proof.
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>>268051
Maybe JewVidya should do like AMD and have an extra standard 8pin plug or two on their cards instead of a proprietary housefire waiting to happen.
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>>268087
But that would mean people would actually get to use their cards and play modern day slop instead of consuming algorithmically curated trained monkey streamer shill videos followed by preordering a replacement unit from a licensed scalper so as not miss out on all that sweet hype.
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>>268106
Pretty sure people buy these obsecenely expensive cards more for doing CUDA powered AI slop than for vidya slop.
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>>268110
Doesn't look like it.
>$3000 fried GPU playing 7 year old garbage with 500W power draw
lul
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>>268087
It's technically not proprietary (it's from PCI SIG) but it is an abysmally designed connector. No connection or connector is perfect and yet 12VHPWR runs at about 90% of the physical limits of the underlying Molex parts when it should be closer to 50%. I would be laughing my ass off because nvidiots deserve to suffer, but the level of incompetence here is just depressing.
>>268111
Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't make more sense to separate all the tensor cores, VRAM, ACEs etc. into separate boards connected via fibre cables to better distribute the electrical and thermal load.
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>>268132
Might as well go back to minicomputers, and have a dedicated case for the CPU, and other case for the GPU, a third one for an array of HDDs, a fourth one for AI, and so on and on, all of them mounted on a 19" rack.
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>>268134
I wonder if rich normalfags will hire personal negro slaves to carry their brand new iPhones for them when going grocery shopping in the year CY+20 while sneering at poorfags limited to rental Muskbots.
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>>268150
They care too much about normalfag status to do that.
>>268134
Or, just hear me out, a competitor just makes a decent, stable, Vram rich card.
Fuck frames, fuck RTX.
I dont need that shit, most things anybody plays don't even need top of the line performance anymore.
Look at Underspace with that huge vram requirement just because the dev cant optimize for shit.
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>>268178
>a competitor just makes a decent, stable, Vram rich card
jewtel's new cards are 10GB and 12GB.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're working on something with 24GB.
That's assuming you can buy them for 250 USD MSRP.
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>>268178
>Or, just hear me out, a competitor just makes a decent, stable, Vram rich card.
Or maybe some oligarch with a heart of gold will finance RISC-V processors with integrated graphics that can deliver good performance without running hotter than the ovens of Auschwitz. But that wouldn't let me LARP as a hacker who needs rack mounted equipment.
>>268181
At this point I genuinely want AMD to come out with cards that have decent bang:buck ratio, simply because in this whole mess that would make them the least bad choice.
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>>268181
>24gb
In triplicate, maybe
>>268183
Maybe don't rely on imaginary sugar daddies to come save your industry.
You gonna wait for him to give you a personal waifu as well?
I do agree that AMD is in the best position to do it right now, especially with the improving compatibility with LLMs.
Just lose out a bit of profit on one generation to slice a huge chunk of the pie for later.
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>>267868
>PS3 to play PS1 and PS2 games on a CRT TV
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>>267868
How the heck do you find reballers?
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Another User Sees Melting Of 16-Pin Connector On The PSU Side, But This Time With NVIDIA’s RTX 5080
https://web.archive.org/web/20250213155011/https://wccftech.com/another-user-sees-melting-16-pin-connector-with-nvidia-rtx-5080/
>A Reddit user posted pictures of a melted 16-pin power connector on his PSU, but the system was running an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 this time.
>The 16-pin Power Connector Melting Cases are Starting to Affect the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Configurations as Well, But It's The PSU That Is To Blame For This One
>This is perhaps the first time we have seen a melting 16-pin connector in a system containing the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080. Two days ago, we reported a case affecting a user's RTX 5090 GPU, in which both the GPU and cable connectors melted due to overheating. While this wasn't a big surprise, considering how power-hungry the RTX 5090 is, the RTX 5080's case is shocking.
>A user who goes by the username r/Ambitious_Ladder1320, posted on the ASUS sub-Reddit that he faced a similar melting issue with this setup, which consisted of the RTX 5080 and an ASUS ROG Loki PSU. He states that the GPU was flashing a red light, indicating improper seating of a pin on his connector. While the user states that he did connect the connectors properly, he still tried once again after turning off his PC.
>While this time the error didn't reappear, the monitor resolution and refresh rate were automatically downgraded. Moreover, the GPU started to run in PCI-E x3 mode, which is a weird behavior.
>Once again, after replugging all the cables, the user came across the melted 16-pin connector on the PSU. Thankfully, the GPU didn't face such a problem.
>The user says that he has seen three similar incidents with users owning ROG Loki PSUs, but it isn't clear whether those users were using a 12VHPWR connector or whether they were running an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 or an RTX 5080 GPU too.
>Nonetheless, the ROG Loki PSU is the same model that was seen in the RTX 5090's melted connector case. However, as Der8auer showed in his demonstration, the melting was caused due to overheating of the connectors as two of the wires were carrying significantly higher load than they were designed to.
>There have been lots of talks going on the social media concerning the 12VHPWR design and the quality of wires, and the connector is likely the culprit here as well. Both ends of the cable generally overheat due to having little to no headroom for supporting higher power. This results in quick melting of the cables and the connectors on either side.
>Whatever the root cause is, the issue is now becoming more common despite the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 not being widely available. However, we have yet to come across problems with a 12V-2x6 connector, which is the upgraded 16-pin connector one should use with these GPUs.
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>>268259
EVGA's decision to pull out of the novidya AIB market makes more and more sense as time goes on.
>>267868
what an elegant animal
>>268111
I will buy them once nvidia irons out the kinks of this gen. What is strange is that my 6900xt is still maxing out games like Space Marine 2 with no issues. My theory as to why PC hardware is becoming increasingly expensive and poorly engineered is because of diversity hires working at NVIDIA who only managed to pass their electrical courses with D grade point averages. I thought White Genocide only affected society and that these products were designed by based asians, not moronic rapejeets. It turns out I was wrong. 

I just wanted to escape this horse shit on my PC. Fuck my life.
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>>268310
>My theory as to why PC hardware is becoming increasingly expensive and poorly engineered is because of diversity hires working at NVIDIA who only managed to pass their electrical courses with D grade point averages.
You're not wrong there, but the other fundamental issue is that the based Legitimate Chinese doing all the actual chip design and fabrication over in the Legitimate Republic of China are running into hard physical limitations on semiconductor manufacture no amount of autism can truly "solve" without either some new breakthrough discovery and/or a major pivot towards a different type of semiconductor fab optical transistors which will take several gorillion dorra to set up at scale.
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>>268312
>optical transistors 
I'm with team nanoscale vacuum-channel transistors.
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>>268317
Oh yes, I too want a car radiator to cool my 300Ghz novidya GPU coupled to a 500Ghz single core Intel Burstlake CPU both of which'll experience physical transistor failure after 2-3 years of running AAAI-developed pajeet slop at 60fps with DLSS x3 framegen, but can survive a nuclear EMP and double as a grill so it's all good.
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>>268344
>Corsair's head of R&D says de8auer's video is fake and gay and if the cable got that hot he wouldn't be able to hold it
>Follow up video shows that's bullshit and everyone rightfully shits on R&D head not knowing what the fuck he's talking about and their shoddy cable
>Guy starts mumbling about how busy he is now running his lab to watch any more videos or debate it
>Got caught replying to someone asking valid question by telling them to take an IQ test
>W-w-wait that wasn't me, I was... I was HACKED!
What a hilarious clown show the 5000 series is.
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>>268344
>decide to make something that pulls 60W over cat5 patch cables
>don't want to implement fancy load balancing
>realize you can just fuse every conductor
>if one fuse fails the others fail in a cascade
>NVIDIA too retarded to implement grug solution on ultra mega expensive hardware
>mfw non-EE grug brain work better than trillion dollar corporation
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What's the best 360 to get for hacking and no red ring of death?
>>268415
How did anyone think a GPU over 300w with that few connectors or such thin wires or connectors was a good idea.
575w gpu with a handful of thin as fuck wires? Are they fucking insane?
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>>268410
He's a redditor, what'd you expect?
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>>268410
>shill going full retard
I'm loving this drama.
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>>268425
They didn't. You have to remember that as long as the AI bubble continues every GPU that doesn't go into a datacenter card (that all use backplane power) is lighting money on fire. They don't care if it doesn't work outside of a lab, because their plan is to paper launch everything that even sniffs at LLM performance needs so only jewtubers and hardcore nvidiots will get their hands on the cards that use it.
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>>268438
That's John motherfucking Gerow. 15 years ago he was the only trustworthy PSU reviewer until Corsair poached him, because he was the only one who owned the proper load testing gear and took the time to use it. I guess they surgically removed his soul after he told the cost engineers to fuck off one too many times.
What's the T16000m of racing wheels?
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>>268425
>with a handful of thin as fuck wires
You can use thin wires as long as the insulation and plugs are rated for the heat generated by the resistive losses.
So something like silicone or fluro insulation with thermoset plastic plugs, and every bit of metal is nickel plated.
But then the thermal cycling is going to make the connectors creep, so you'd have to increase the clamping force on your connectors, which would make insertion harder with that many connectors, which would increase the likelihood of user error, but would also reduce the resistive losses at the connector.

The amazing thing is that they didn't consolidate around XT or Anderson Powerpole connectors.
The chinks even developed non-standard XT connectors with low current center or side connectors which could be used for non-power applications.
The 12awg sizing on an XT60 is rated for 30A at 5ft in automotive applications, so it's probably safe to 2x that for the short runs in a PC case.
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>AMD decided to making an effort against Nvidia would be too much
>>268617
if you actually expected those slant-eyed gook kikes to outdo the Israeli kikes you have another thing coming.
>>268523
Could you just splice your own connectors in or would the splice be a point of failure?
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>>268617
Just you wait, the 9070XT will be almost as good as the 5080!
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>>268617
They probably don't have much incentive to compete with Nvidia on desktop GPUs, especially considering they don't bring anything new to the table and mimic what Nvidia does.
Video's related.
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>>268660
>vision!
Holy Jesus I thought cult-like graphics whores died in the '00s.  AMD doesn't make overpriced toasters and actually gives half a fuck about Linux support.
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>>268661
You don't understand. Setting your house on fire with their EXTREMEtm temps and fucking their customers in the ass harder than anyone is VISION. Thank nvidia for killing MSAA, and replacing it with DLSS and TAA in every video game. The extra 10% performance and coil whine is worth paying 700 doillars more than you should be paying.
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>>268665
>EXTREMEtm
You mean "EXTREME™"? It's easy to type ™ when you have a compose key ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key ) set up.
>>268640
No. The problem is the connectors and the conductors.
You would have to design an interposer pcb to completely replace the existing connectors at the PCB level on the existing hardware.
It's not worth the hassle. Just don't buy products that use the shitty nvidia plug.
Or do and expect to spend half the value of the card and a month to have it repaired in the future.
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For every PC gamer that leaves the platform for the supposedly greener pastures of console gaming or just goes AMD, there are ten more buying these NVIDIA products, which includes new, Gen Z PC gamers who have no impulse control. I remember when  I was a teenager working a summer job and buying a PC for three grand with flagship parts for around $2500 for the tower. Now you are looking at $2500-$5000+ if you are building a high-end gaming PC. This was a hobby once accessible to a teenager working a summer job or a college student living pay check to pay check. Now you got to  be either someone who makes close to six figures or more than six figures, or someone willing to go into debt to Shlomo for a few years for the latest product. Sadly, since there are millions of both the former and latter, that ain't changing for PC gaming anytime soon, even if the AI bubble magically popped tomorrow. Sad situation all around boys.
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>>268726
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
The most popular GPU on steam is the 3060. The entire top ten is x50 to x70 class nyidia cards, and I bet Ampere would have a much smaller share of that if you filtered out all the chink PC cafes and other prebuilts. While it is true that gaymers are generally retards that look at whoever has the benchmark crown and move down the product stack until they see something that fits in daddy's credit limit this is why AMD/ATI has refused to meaningfully compete in gaming for decades, they can't win on performance and value doesn't matter they're still being priced out of the market, Especially now that the 5070 is more like a 5050Ti at xx70 prices.
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>>268727
>most popular GPU on Steam is a 3060
>people have already moved this quickly to the new shit
I remember when people used their GPUs forever, the days of shit like the 970 (and 10 series shit I guess) being an evergreen GPU are over I suppose
>>268734
Self-reporting skews the statistics.
>>268727
Wow, cryptocurrency kikes and wallstreet ruined a once great hobby. I live in a first world country where chinks priced people out of owning homes. It seems like we're heading for a time where hobbies are a reach person's luxury. The only etertainment poor people will have soon is gooning out because all of the White women drank the feminism kool aid. I wish a planet killing asteroid struck this gay, jewish-run, homosexual planet. Put it out of its pain.
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>>268736
Imagine how depressing it would be if it was losing video games was what caused the start of Day of The Rope. It's not the tranny shit, it's not the racemixing,it's not feminism turning your women against you, but losing your ability in society to play video games.

If that is what fucking causes white men to finally turn on their Jewish masters, I am leaving society to live in the woods as a monk. Imagine Whites chimping out over something retarded.
>>268734
>new shit
Anon, the 3060 is 4 years old. My 970 didn't last that long.
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>>268739
>he doesn't see anything wrong with 2 whole generations of GPUs passing through the consumer base in 4 years
I suppose PC gaming is meant to go the route of shit like Apple with yearly releases becoming the norm as things increasingly get made with planned obsolescence for diminishing marginal returns while shit gets increasingly deprecated. 
As for your 970, that's unfortunate. My 1070 still works fine (for now).
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>>268734
My HD7970 from 2012 still runs fine and buttrapes its competition from the same generation using the latest official Linux drivers.
I buy AyyMD for the long-term benefits but they really outdid themselves with first generation of GCN.
>>266841 (OP) 
I am only getting an RTX 5090 founders for $2900 Canacuck bucks because I need more raytracing capability for Doom Dark Ages and I want to make money with AI shit. Cash is not much of an issue for me, as I am able to save $500 a month  like a boomer on account of having three roomates whom I split the rent with. 

On a side note, I really wish I lived in the 1960s to 1970s, where our wages kept up with the greed of Jewish corporate shareholders. Who knew unfettered non-White immigration would fuck that up?
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>>268747
>$2900
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>>268748
That's Canadian cuck bucks converted to American Freedom units, for you. $2000 in the states is $2900 in Canada.
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>>268749
>$2000
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>>268750
Th 5090 is not so much a gaming graphics card, its a prosumer (Titan class) card manufactured by NVIDIA add in board partners. However, ASUStek and MSI are greedy slants, so I am buying the American designed founders edition card instead. I do not want to pay an extra grand for a cooler, now do I?

Complaining about a prosumer card costing $2000 is like complaining that the sky is blue. It is a budget AI card that just so happens to be good at gaming. My main complaint is with the rest of the stack, an 80 class card should only cost $800 USD, a 70TI class should only be $600 USD, and a base 70 card should only only $500 USD. Of course, AIBs will be kikes, but there is only so much that can be fixed.
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>>268751
>My main complaint is with the rest of the stack, an 80 class card should only cost $800 USD, a 70TI class should only be $600 USD, and a base 70 card should only only $500 USD. Of course, AIBs will be kikes, but there is only so much that can be fixed.
These prices are heresy.
In my nigger opinion a prosumer/dubs card should be in the $700-$1000 range, an enthusiast model in the $500-$600 range but nary a single cent above, a high end card in the $300-$400 range, a mid-end model in the $200-$300 range and the Federal reserve burnt to the ground along with Wall Street and every single kike on this gay earth followed by a swift reintroduction of the gold standard and recognition of Nagorny-Karabach as rightful Armenian clay.
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>>268753
If our currency was the gold standard, the 5090 would be $200. But we would only make $10 a day due to deflation.
>>268747
Shit was fucked already in the 70's due to loss of gold standard, old crisis, niggers and the beginning of post-war illegal spic farmhand use.
In the 60's and 50's you really had to try hard to be poor... in the USA at least.
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>>268740
That's what forced ray tracing and VRAM bloat does to people, I guess. You also have to remember that pretty much everyone who would have upgraded to Turing skipped it because of the crypto bubble. I suspect your average steam gaymer's upgrade path looks something like 970-used 1080ti-used 3060, stretched out over the last 10 years or so.
>>268740
No, I've no idea what you're on about. Yearly generations used to be the norm and with the rate of progress back then falling behind 2 generations meant you could barely play the newest vidya at frame rates that today would be considered unplayable. It's only because of a decade of stagnation and longer and longer generational release gaps (and even longer between any real improvements) that people can comfortably sit on half a decade old cards.
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>>268763
>Yearly generations used to be the norm and with the rate of progress back then falling behind 2 generations meant you could barely play the newest vidya at frame rates that today would be considered unplayable.
1995 was 30 years ago. 2005 was 20 years ago. An entire generation old enough to post here unlike you grew up playing 7th gen console ports that a 970 could crush and indies that could run on a potato if they weren't made in Unity. Stop comparing what you heard in a fake nostalgia youtube video to recent history.
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>>268739
>My 970 didn't last that long.
My last computer before buying a new one was so old it was still using ddr3 and a R9 380.
>>268747
>I want to make money with AI shit.
Didn't deepseek made it possible to run AI in toasters?
If you really are going to buy an 5090 of all things as a workhorse for AI shit, you better watercool the damn thing, its memory temps are shit with aircooling.
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>>268764
>has no concept of how anyone alive experienced an era of rapid technological progress
>cannot understand how other generations weren't raised by jewtype
Are you sure you're old enough to post here?
>7th gen console ports that a 970 could crush
Crushing ports from at the time 9 year old hardware, what a feat. Clearly you have no idea how things stagnated at the software end from being stuck in the eternal 7th gen either.
>>268765
>My last computer before buying a new one was so old it was still using ddr3 and a R9 380.
Same, but with a 970. Only looking at replacing my 2060 because of shit linux drivers and I want some more VRAM to play around with.
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Here you go more drama.
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>>268938
>defective chips
Golly gee, time for a 5080Ti rebrand!

>>268764
>An entire generation old enough to post here unlike you grew up playing 7th gen console ports that a 970 could crush
I distinctly remember most console-to-PC AAA ports circa 2009 requiring fairly recent hardware to hit 45 fps at max settings with Crysis being barely playable at its highest settings on mid-range GPUs until 2011.
Intel giving up on innovation due to AMD's near-death during the Faildozer era combined with low-spec indieshit going mainstream and the PS4 nogaemsing for its first year and a half with novidya not yet having swallowed the AI cryptopill is what led to many mainstream AAA devs to optimize their ports towards mid-end hardware outside of the highest settings though the base games themselves being optimized for 6+ year old hardware certainly helped, which at the time looked barely different from medium settings compared to 2000s games like the afroimentioned Crysis according to gaymurs and even gayme journalistes.
Vulkan and D3D12 launching in the midst of this market stagnation with excellent backwards compatibility+performance provided you were using an AMD card from 2012 at the earliest further cemented this, it wasn't until AMD Ryzen'd Intel and jewvidya started pushing for muh RTX that things got going again in all the wrong directions.

By comparison, playing Deus Ex at release on a Voodoo from 1996 was an exercise in poorfaggotry and playing any new game beyond low settings on a ViRGE circa 1998 was extremely painful.

Did everyone forget the GTX 970 VRAM controversy already?
Considering that I am using an ancient Thinkpad currently, and I have little to no interest in anything after the middle of the previous decade, if I wanted to build a desktop in a year or two, then I might have to choose an AMD CPU and an Intel GPU. How the times have changed...
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>>268968
Consider an AM4 APU if that's the case. They're actually not bad for toaster gaming, especially if you're using linux/wine and can make almost anything in the last 10 years run on top of Vulkan.
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>>268938
>nvidia sneaking defective chips out the door hoping nobody will notice
>asus card catching on fire
>5070 is $1000, performs the same as the $1000 card from 3 years ago
I would laugh but I know nvidiots will still keep buying this crap until they actually, physically die in the housefires started by their silicon gods.
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>remember back in the 1997 Rendition found a bug in the silicon of the Verite 2000 series during R&D
>spend months trying to fix it because if they released faulty GPUs the competition at the time would burn them to the ground
>end up filming a decapped chip in operation using an electron microscope only to find out that the circuit simulator used during development didn't model this one edge case
>GPUs with revised silicon do get produced and shipped, but the delays doom Rendition's chances anyway so the company gets bought and dies
<meanwhile Nvidia in CY+10
Aren't monopolies great?
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>>268988
>Aren't monopolies great?
Monopolies are a self-solving problem
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>>268983
I keep that option in mind, but I am genuinely a year or two away from actually making a purchase even if everything goes as planned, as I am about to purchase a home, and then I want to first build a NAS with at least 3 ~20tb HDDs, and only then will I even think about retiring my trusty toaster. I just hope by that time things will be somehow less out of whack.
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>>268989
>the jews are a self solving problem
What's a good AM5 motherboard with pcie x8/x8 support?
>>269033
I'm not sure one actually exists. I saw this question in a namefag forum recently and I don't think there was an answer.
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>>269033
Can't you set any x16 port to x8 speeds in bios settings?
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>>269048
Maybe if you can reprogram the chipset too, assuming it isn’t hardcoded.
>>269044
I mean with 2 seperate slots, usually workstation boards can do that.
Nice dubs though
>>269033
X870E Taichi / Taichi Lite
X670E Tachi / Taichi Carrara
X870E / X670E / B650 ProArt CREATOR
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>>269227
Bets on some Kernel autist accidentally discovering an Intel-tier hardware bug requiring further performance gimping, complete with a novel's worth of coverups by Huang's hired guns?
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>>269230
I fucking hope.
>>269230
I don't think that's even possible on a technical level. Low level OS stuff isn't running on the GPU, so a vulnerability like spectre wouldn't have the same kind of impact.
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>>269232
Novidya these days packs half the "driver" into 20mb+ firmware blobs running directly on the GPU, surely with no backdoors/malicious machine spirits whatsoever.
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I bought a NEC VersaPro (VK25T/XH) laptop, and I don't know if it has a wifi adapter or not (It doesn't show up in the device manager, but It would be stupid for it not to have one).
Can't find the specific drivers for this model either. What do? Should I just get a $3 USB adapter on ebay?
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Framework just announced their first desktop/Mac Mini killer and preorders are already running into August. It's about as customizable as a Mac Mini and starts at $1200 barebones, but it's got a Strix Halo APU (8 or 16 cores and an iGPU on par with a 4070) with 32GB of shared RAM in a mini ITX form factor. RAM is soldered because AMD can't into CAMM. If the AI bubble doesn't pop soon this could actually end up being the cheapest way to get "modern" gaming graphics.
>>269309
What's the point? If you don't have room for an ITX case then you probably don't have room for a computer desk/chair/monitor anyway, and if it's not upgradeable then it's a terrible long term investment.
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>>269312
The point is you're getting the equivalent of like $600-800 in CPU+GPU performance, plus a lot of very fast RAM, PSU and case in a form that's only slightly less convenient than a prebuilt. With replacement cycles being as long as they are now I don't think the long term investment argument works as well as it used to either. With the GPU and mobo markets being totally fucked, I don't think it's totally unreasonable to get one of these if you're interested in SFF and still rocking a B350 or something. The bigger dealbreaker in my opinion is the complete absence of SATA, not sure how much of that is Strix Halo being a laptop design and how much of that is the giant fucking heatsink taking up all the space.
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>>269309
You forgot to mention that it has a pair of those janky USB-C adapter slots that they use on their laptops, and you can replace the black block with coloured ones, because that is the extent of the customization they offer. Honestly, I could maybe accept this thing if they sold the board as a simple way of upgrading any old desktop, and it was designed so that you can slap it into an ATX case from the 90s if you want to go retro. In that case this blocky case would be just a fruity afterthought. 
>>269316
>no SATA
Fucking hell.
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>>269299
Try booting off a reasonably up to date Linux distro image first to see if anything happens.
>>269309
>>269325
The pre-soldered RAM and absence of SATA render this device a piece of heretek, budget Acer Laptops from 2004 equipped with Celerons and Intel GMA had replaceable DDR2 RAM for fug's sake.
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>>269333
To be fair, at least they give you enough memory for the performance and money, and apparently they did try to engineer replaceable memory modules for months, but signal integrity is a bitch. Still, it's better to wait for the competition to come out with their fancy AMD SoBs based on the same chips before we judge this one.
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>>269309
>first mini framework mini-pc
>soldered memory and APU
>no sata
I think it has a pci-e slot that you can use to add sata, but I can't find a pic fo it.
I'm not interested since I already have a computer, but maybe next time they will have unsoldered memory and sata.
>>269325
>pic
You forgot this gem, I'm amazed that they don't have an american flag tile, but I forgot they are located in san francisco of all places.
I'm more interested in this framework 12
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>>269340
I never said it was good. Strix Halo is a mobile chip intended for shitbooks and CAD/previs boxes, which means you get a lot of marketing bullet points taken from Apple (like the "AI" "NPU") at the expense of any kind of expansion.

Strix Halo has 16 PCIe lanes. On the Framework 8 of them are taken up by the M.2 bays, 4 are exposed as a slot that you can't even use with their case because the power supply is in the way, and the last four lanes are the usual random crap. You can allocate as much of the shared RAM as you want to the GPU, but it has so little grunt the only real applications for that are Blender (I guess) and running ChatGPT knockoffs. The front ports ("Expansion Cards", ooh wow) are technically USB4 but the best feature of USB4 is display passthrough, which you can't use because Strix Halo only has 3 non-configurable output ports and they're all on the IO shield.
That anyone would consider buying this for gaming for more than a second says more about the absolute state of the PC market than it does about the product's actual value.
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>>269343
I agree with your sentiment, but your post is liable to summoning niggerpill.
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>>269366
Who cares? Don't let that retard control what you say.
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>>269343
>The front ports ("Expansion Cards", ooh wow) 
My favourite part about those is that they could easily fit a pair of USB-A ports or a triplet of USB-C ports on a single one, but they just don't.
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>>269419
Given standard clearances they're actually just barely not wide enough for two USB-A ports, and last I checked USB-C is too gay to truly support hubs with all of its alternate modes.
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>>269419
>triplet of USB-C ports on a single one
Wouldn't it need 3 males usb-c to have 3 female usb-c?
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>>269420
So it's even worse than I thought. Nice. Still, at least fitting a single USB-A and a single USB-C connector on a single one should be possible, right?
>>269427
Maybe, but just having 3 USB 3.whatever ports that use 3 USB-C connectors would be still a whole lot better than this gay passive adapter that is just a waste of money and resources. Maybe the optimal solution would be to give all the bells and jingles to the middle connector and just leave the other two for data and peripherals only.
So, AMD good?
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>>269585
amd CPU for vidya go for 3D variants
cheap GPUs go for Arc B-Series for $200ish cards
There are a bunch of rumors of amd going strong with the new gpu gen, but I would recommend to let the normalfags beta test that shit first.
>>269585
X3d seems to have problems multitasking
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What is the least niggered headset suitable for use with basic bitch 2008-tier Realtek integrated audio for less than 150 Eurocuckbucks, preferably with good bass separation.
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>>269602
>headset
Get a separate mic and headphones.
>>269604
Either is fine.
>>269604
Old advice, you can actually find good gaming headsets now.

>>269602
Corsair Virtuoso Pro, might have to dig for a deal but you can find them under 100€
>>269366
You may have dubs but you stink of mod suckup
I need to get myself a fanless pc. I cannot stand fans whatsoever. I already have the parts in mind. I will build it soon enough. I dont mind the fact that the gpu is a 3050. It does not bother me in the slightest as long as i can use a fanless pc
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>>269708
See you in a month when you start bitching about coil whine.
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>>269712
Stop trying to demoralize me. I am getting my fanless quiet cool pc. There will be no noise and i will be happy.
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Firefox deletes promise to never sell personal data, asks users not to panic
https://archive.is/20250228192931/https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/firefox-deletes-promise-to-never-sell-personal-data-asks-users-not-to-panic/
>Firefox maker Mozilla deleted a promise to never sell its users' personal data and is trying to assure worried users that its approach to privacy hasn't fundamentally changed. Until recently, a >Firefox FAQ promised that the browser maker never has and never will sell its users' personal data. An archived version from January 30 says:
>Does Firefox sell your personal data?
>Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That's a promise.
>That promise is removed from the current version. There's also a notable change in a data privacy FAQ that used to say, "Mozilla doesn't sell data about you, and we don't buy data about you."
>The data privacy FAQ now explains that Mozilla is no longer making blanket promises about not selling data because some legal jurisdictions define "sale" in a very broad way:
>Mozilla doesn't sell data about you (in the way that most people think about "selling data"), and we don't buy data about you. Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of "sale of data" is extremely broad in some places, we've had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love. We still put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable) is stripped of any identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).
>Mozilla didn't say which legal jurisdictions have these broad definitions.
>Users complain: “Not acceptable”
>Users criticized Mozilla in discussions on GitHub and Reddit. One area of concern is over new terms of use that say, "When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox."
>Mozilla also took heat from users after a Mozilla employee solicited feedback in a connect.mozilla.org discussion forum. "This isn't a question of messaging or clarifying," one person wrote. "You cannot ask your users to give you these broad rights to their data. This agreement, as currently written, is not acceptable."
>Mozilla announced the new terms of use and an updated privacy policy in a blog post on Wednesday. After seeing criticism, Mozilla added a clarification that said the company needs "a license to allow us to make some of the basic functionality of Firefox possible. Without it, we couldn't use information typed into Firefox, for example. It does NOT give us ownership of your data or a right to use it for anything other than what is described in the Privacy Notice."
>One of the uses described in the privacy notice has to do with users' location data. Mozilla says it takes steps to anonymize the data and that users can turn the functionality off entirely:
>Mozilla may also receive location-related keywords from your search (such as when you search for "Boston") and share this with our partners to provide recommended and sponsored content. >Where this occurs, Mozilla cannot associate the keyword search with an individual user once the search suggestion has been served and partners are never able to associate search suggestions with an individual user. You can remove this functionality at any time by turning off Sponsored Suggestions—more information on how to do this is available in the relevant Firefox Support page.
>Some users were not convinced by Mozilla's statements about needing a license to use data to provide basic functionality. "That's a load of crap and you know it. 'Basic functionality' is to download and render webpages," one person wrote in response to Mozilla's request for feedback.
>We asked Mozilla today for more information on changes to its privacy policy and use of personal data and will update this article if we get a response.
>>269717
Why don't you just put the computer in another room?
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>>269718
>Why don't you just put the computer in another room?
I dont know. You are right about this but i dont want to do it. I want the computer to be near me. At my side
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>>269720
>I want the computer to be near me. At my side
Enjoy the cancer a decade from now.
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In the 2000s RatPadz were The Last Mousepad You'll Ever Need and now this faggot is taking preorders for more.

>>269727
I'm pretty sure your diagnosis can be linked to all the fudge you've been packing over the years.
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>>269748
>The Last Mousepad You'll Ever Need
Doubt it, only glass pads are truly impossible to degrade, which doesn't stop certain brands to bombard you with ads for the new version of their "last mousepad you'll ever need"
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>AMD is still not energy efficient or as good at ray tracing like nvidia
>It is pretty good, IF the price doesn't go full retard, if there is stock and it doesn't get scalped who the fuck would scalp this fucking gpu?
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>>269772
The same people that scalp every other GPU in existence in 2025.
I witnessed several $300 listings for used RX 580s.
RX 6600's were going for <$150 2 years ago, now they're a minimum $200.
>not as energy efficient
It doesn't use 12VHPWR. Efficiency doesn't matter when it has a 0.01% chance to burn down your computer.

Raytracing doesn't make a game good.
>>269772
no matter, refusal to make enough volume plus no vram makes it worthless for third worlders.
qq
>>269749
True, but there are reports of people playing CS 1.6 3 hours a day for 10 years on these things without any meaningful wear. The secret sauce is supposedly a high quality American supplier, the most rigid polymer they could get their hands on and a surface finish specifically chosen to work extremely well with optical mice of the time.
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>>269815
Anything enterprise. If you're a big gay and still using consumer crap in the current year or have shucked drives you can try tweaking the APM byte using hdparm and a boot script. Anything over 128 is supposed to suppress aggressive parking.
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And... its gone.
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>>269819
It's not that surprising, because even if by some miracle not a single one was sold to scalpers, all the pent up demand from years of scalping combined with novidya fucking everything up would have been enough to guarantee this. And you have to add scalping on top of that.
>>269819
What do people need this newest shiniest tech for?
>>269822
AI and maybe crypto. And don't forget that there are genuine consumers who buy a new PC every 2-3 years just so that they can feel good about owning something new and shiny.
>>269822
To run indie games that look like ps1 games at a semi stable framerate until the next flavor of the week game comes out
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>>269604
Anyone know of a good standalone microphone or 1 eared headset with a microphone with a built in push-to-talk feature? No I dont want software push-to-talk.
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>>267201
10900k is the best processor that you can find mobos fully compatible with windows 7. The parts that will be missing signed drivers are things like lightning and usb-c. GPU does not matter though you likely cant get gsync or adaptive/free sync to work with newer cards, but old cards lack that feature as well. 
The only mobo drivers that will cause you a headache are usb and internet and most 10th gen intel motherboards work just fine. 

I had to edit driver files for network and install random usb drivers using a diff pc and slipstream the install back and forth until kb+m worked. Dont count on ps/2 adapters since theyre just usb on the back end. Once you have kb+m and internet the rest comes much easier. You can avoid that headache by just staying at 10th gen or below.
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>>269822
That Indiana Jones game is actually not awful and requires at least basic ray tracing support, and nobody with a brain buys nvidia unless taxpayers are picking up the tab for it.
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>>269829
I got a razer mic which has a physical mute button, not sure if that's what you're looking for
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>>269834
Close. Its the exact opposite. It’s not a terrible option, but i prefer mute to be the default.
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>>269833
>That Indiana Jones game is actually not awful
>>269839
it's a toggle but I think it's programmable through the software
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>>269843
Doesn't matter when the MSRP is as fake as nyidia's and the real price a month from now will be at least $50 higher. That's not including the $100+ of AIB markup btw. Just keep what you have and pray you cam find something on the used market when it does finally die.
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>>269828
You tried playing the meme waifu game too huh?
>>269831
>GPU does not matter 
Really now?
I wonder if I could get a nice undervolted threadripper rig going then.
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>>269822
Emulating PSX games at 120hz with sub-frame rendering to reproduce CRT-esque motion clarity on top of an HDR CRT >filter while running an LLM to read out on-the-fly MTL'd Nipponese text from ingame screenshots.
>>269847
I don't know why, but there is a lot of demand for gpus this season, nvidia, intel and amd are all sold out.
I don't know what was the stock for intel, but nvidia was single digits, while amd was all the way up to 400 units in a store.
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>want to play video games and production? go for 9950X3D
>pure gaming? go for 9800X3D
>pure production? go for 9950X
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>>270110
What demand? Nvidia doesn't have any cards to sell, AMD can't even sell what little they have (even less so after lying about MSRP) and Intel is a rounding error. This entire generation is dead on arrival.
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>>270187
>AMD can't even sell what little they have
Nigger what?
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>>270193
The guy you're replying to is gay, but please take note of the fact that all but 3-4 of those cards are at least $100 over MSRP. To get a 9070 for MSRP you had to be a burger and camp out in front of a Micro Center overnight. For a midrange card. That's fucking insane, though to AMD's credit it was at least possible for at least a few days after launch.
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>>270193
Yeah, I wonder why newegg is "out of stock". Are you new to this scam? Every local store I've checked lists 50+ of multiple models in stock but except for the first batch they're all about $200+ over MSRP. They're pretty much at the rumored pre-nvidia announcement panic prices now.
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>>270204
>Every local store I've checked lists 50+
Post pics or it didn't happen.
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>>270204
>They're pretty much at the rumored pre-nvidia announcement panic prices now.
Looks like what happened is that AMD decided to lower the MSRP in the last minute, and none of their board partners cared about any of that, so they just sell them at the original price.
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>>270178
>>want to play video gameswaste money and production? go for 9950X3D
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>>270205
Pics
>>270285
Heard about this a while ago and haven't watched the video but it's a bit weird that it's just completely dropped, a wrapper that lets 32bit games interface with 64bit PhysX should be fairly simple?
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AMD Radeon R9 Nano
should I get her?
I know she is still only 9 ( nine ) years old but she is coming from prestigious Sapphire family and has been sitting in a(n)ttic static bag since her birth on Fiji, Pirate Islands.
I would really like to adopt her due to her being so cute and adorable and everything mentioned above.
But she will set me back €280
truly tempting little girl to take virginity from 
4096 cores 4096 bits 4096 MB
is she worth it?
id say yeah
>>270332
>sapphire
Do it.webm
>>270332
From what I heard the minimum AMD for Bloodborne emulation is the RX 480, so if you want to shadps4 then a Nano probably won't fly so good.
>>270318
What the hell is that money sign?
>>270332
If you only wanna look at her then yeah sure.
>sapphire
>prestigious
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>280 RTX 5090 GPUs = 28 Zeus GPUs according to Bolt Graphics
>Bolt Graphics, a GPU startup from Sunnyvale, California, this week introduced its Zeus GPU platform that is designed for gaming, rendering, and supercomputer simulations. The company says that its Zeus GPU not only supports features like upgradeable memory and built-in Ethernet interfaces, but it can also beat Nvidia's GeForce RTX 5090 by around 10 times in path tracing workloads, according to slide published by ServeTheHome. There is one major catch: Zeus can only beat the RTX 5090 GPU in path tracing and FP64 compute workloads because it does not support traditional rendering techniques. This means it has little of no chance to become one of the best graphics cards.
>RISC-V multi-chiplet GPU
>Unlike GPUs from AMD, Intel, and Nvidia that rely on proprietary instruction set architectures, Bolt's Zeus relies on the open-source RISC-V ISA, according to slides published by ServeTheHome. The Zeus core relies on an open-source out-of-order general-purpose RVA23 scalar core mated with FP64 ALUs and the RVV 1.0 (RISC-V Vector Extension Version 1.0) that can handle 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit, and 64-bit data types as well as Bolt's additional proprietary extensions designed for acceleration of scientific workloads.
>As Zeus is aimed at path tracing rendering technique as well as compute workloads, it does not seem to have traditional fixed-function GPU hardware like texture units (TMUs) and raster operation units (ROPs), so it has to rely on compute shaders (or similar methods) for texture sampling and graphics outputs. This saves precious silicon real estate for compute elements. Nonetheless, each Zeus GPU has one DisplayPort 2.1a and one HDMI 2.1b output.
>Like many processors these days, Zeus relies on a multi-chiplet design. The entry-level Zeus 1c26-032 features a single processing unit that is equipped with 32 GB of LPDDR5X memory at 273 GB/s and can be mated with up to 128 GB of DDR5 memory using two SO-DIMMs (at 80 GB/s). The Zeus GPU is also paired with an I/O chiplet that packs a QSFP-DD port for 400GbE/800GbE, two PCIe Gen5 x16 slots with CXL 3.0 on top (enabling efficient memory sharing across multiple cards), and a GbE port for BMC. The GPU chiplet connects to its I/O chiplet at 256 GB/s.
>The more advanced Zeus 2c26-064/128 uses two Zeus processing units, an I/O chiplet, and supports either 64 GB or 128 GB of LPDDR5X memory. The most powerful — Zeus 4c26-256 — implementation integrates four processing units, four I/O chiplets, 256 GB LPDDR5X and up to 2 TB of DDR5 memory. The quad-chiplet Zeus implementation is not a card, but rather is a server.
>Unlike high-end GPUs that prioritize bandwidth, Bolt is evidently focusing on greater memory size to handle larger datasets for rendering or simulations. Also, built-in 400GbE and 800GbE ports to enabling faster data transfer across networked GPUs indicates datacenter focus of Zeus.
>High-quality rendering, real-time path tracing, and compute are key focus areas for Zeus. As a result, even the entry-level Zeus 1c26-32, offers significantly higher FP64 compute performance than Nvidia's GeForce RTX 5090 — up to 5 TFLOPS vs. 1.6 TFLOPS — and considerably higher path tracing performance: 77 Gigarays vs. 32 Gigarays. Zeus also features larger on-chip cache than Nvidia's flagship — up to 128 MB vs. 120 MB — and lower power consumption: 120W vs. 575W, making it more efficient for simulations, path tracing, and offline rendering.
However, the RTX 5090 dominates in AI workloads with its 105 FP16 TFLOPS and 1,637 INT8 TFLOPS compared to 10 FP16 TFLOPS and 614 INT8 TFLOPS offered by single-chiplet Zeus. If Zeus could do traditional rendering, then the 1c26-32 with with its 10 FP32 TFLOPS performance would have no chance against the RTX 5090's 105 TFLOPS.
>The quad-chiplet 4c26-256 — which still consumes less power than the GeForce RTX 5090, but is likely to be more expensive — can beat Nvidia's gaming flagship in all workloads except FP32 and FP16, which emphasizes that traditional gaming was not the priority. The company indicates that the quad-chiplet variant is optimized for electromagnetic field modeling, photonics research, and FFT calculations. With its larger memory pools and reduced reliance on external storage, Zeus promises to improve speed of large-scale simulations. Assuming, of course, that its hybrid memory subsystem works efficiently across all workloads.
>Software
>Software support will be a critical factor in the success of Bolt's Zeus GPUs, as hardware capabilities alone are not enough to compete with established players like AMD and Nvidia. Unlike CUDA for Nvidia and ROCm for AMD, Bolt's Zeus lacks a mature, widely adopted software ecosystem. Since it is based on RISC-V, Zeus can potentially leverage existing open-source tools and libraries, but without strong developer support, adoption will be limited.
>One thing that Bolt introduced is its Glowstick path tracing rendering engine, which could be a promising in-house solution for real-time rendering. Traditional rendering workflows require long processing times to visualize changes, whereas Zeus significantly reduces this delay, which makes it useful for professional visualization applications. Compared to existing solutions, Bolt claims up to 2.5x faster performance on single-chip variants, scaling higher with multiple GPUs.
However, it is unclear whether Zeus can support industry-standard frameworks such as OpenCL, Vulkan, and CUDA-translation layers, which are essential for gaining traction in HPC workloads. If >Bolt Graphics provides strong developer tools, robust compiler support, and compatibility with Linux-based HPC environments, Zeus could establish itself as a competitor in scientific computing and rendering, but it faces an uphill battle against Nvidia's well-established ecosystem.
>Availability
>Bolt Graphics says that the first developer kits will be available in late 2025, with full production set for late 2026, which will give time for software developers to play with the hardware.
>The number of discrete GPU developers from the U.S. and Western Europe has shrunken to three companies in 2025 from around 10 in 2000. Nvidia dominates the market and is followed by AMD and Intel, which can compete in select segments only. No company in the recent years — at least outside of China — was bold enough to engage into competition against these three contenders, so the very emergence of Bolt Graphics seems like a breakthrough. However, the major focuses of Bolt's Zeus are high-quality rendering for movie and scientific industries as well as high-performance supercomputer simulations.
>If Zeus delivers on its promises, it could establish itself as a serious alternative for scientific computing, path tracing, and offline rendering. However, without strong software support, it risks struggling against dominant market leaders.
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>>270378
>Indian
Onto the street it goes.
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>>270378
>RTX 5090
>1.6 TFLOPS FP64
<while the 2012 AMD Radeon HD7970 had 947 GFLOPS FP64
ESG is the future, goy!
>>270384
Superpower by 2030.
>>270378
When they showed that monkey and the environment they're making for it, it reminded me of those UNLIMITED DETAIL fags from Euclideon and their beef with Notch.
>it does not seem to have traditional fixed-function GPU hardware like texture units (TMUs) and raster operation units (ROPs), so it has to rely on compute shaders (or similar methods) for texture sampling and graphics outputs
Does this mean they're using vertex coloring for that monkey model? If so, future games could theoretically just include an optional renderpath where they precompute the textures to vertex colors with relatively little work. If it's legitimately that much faster you could just use pathtracing for the entire rendering instead of using it additively to rasterized rendering. Only thing that stops me from actually being hype is the
<Pre-silicon benchmarks in emulation
on every chart they show.
But if nothing less, it'll probably do wonders for the AI-bros, and with the amount of capital those are throwing around at meme projects right now it has a decent chance of not failing even if it doesn't catch on for games at all. Which in turn would make them stop hoarding the GPUs so it'd benefit us either way.

>>270384
At least he talks normal fucking English. If I got a dollar for every Pajeet in tech with incomprehensible Java-tutorial pronounciation I could retire for life.
Give it to me straight niggers.
Am I going to have to wait another 1-2 years before I can purchase a non-nvidia video card with 10-12GB VRAM at ~210 USD?
I don't want to buy some sloppy seconds 8GB card and make due at 1440p like I do now with a 4GB card.
And I don't want to pay retarded prices over ~175 USD, when even the manufacturers are scalping.
>>271171
Just bite the bullet and get a 1080ti
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>>271171
>1-2 years
lol try 10-20 years
>>271172
6600*
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>>271173
>6600*
>>271171
the us dollar isn't worth  shit anymore
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>>271178
Yet prices are coming down everywhere
>>271187
Dunno what that is but if it doesn't have a numpad it's gay.
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>>271187
If I wanted to waste money on an expensive keyboard I would buy something like pic related and make a very autistic keyboard layout that fits perfectly with my needs.
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>>271187
Several
A C2 which was pretty great for the low price it was then, now it's closer to 60 and so much less interesting, get an Ajazz AK992 / AK820 those are more like 30 bucks and good as well.
A Q6 (regular, not Max or HE) which is my daily driver now, got it on deep sale (105 bucks) not sure it's worth the current asking price but it is great (though the HE version is)
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>>271172
>nvidia
>>271173
>8GB VRAM

EVEN RECYCLED 6600M REPACKAGES ARE MORE EXPENSIVE
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>>271196
>oven mitt keyboard
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>>271196
>If I wanted to waste money on an expensive keyboard
Eh, it cost 50 shekels and I wanted a small keyboard to type while on bed.
>>271200
>Ajazz
Thanks for the rec, will check their page.
>>271171
>~210 USD
lol
>make due at 1440p
lmao, even

It's possible that Intel gets their shit together with their new generation of cards that will start with a C, but you will likely have to pay exorbitant prices for anything above a toaster.
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Here is your new qt chink gpu, anon.
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>>271232
The garbage people go out of their way to buy just to show that they're hip and they're in the maymay club
this is the shit we get instead of having white cards as a  option that does not cost a premium
>>271171
>make due at 1440p
If your goal is 4k, even the best hardware available to people with infinite money can't render 4k at a stable framerate without using TAA, blur, and DLSS.
>>271249
That's if you limit yourself to modirn ((( games ))), pre-2007 vidya shouldn't have too many problems at native 4K from a framerate standpoint.
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>>271232
Finally. 
A card for us gamers.
>>271259
you dont need a fucking 5090 to play radmod in 4k.
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>>271267
I would imagine  if you mod skyrim enough you probably would need a 5090 but then again engine limitations yadayada
even so you can cripple minecraft with just a  texture pack and a shader pack depending on how farstupid you gone
>>271249
1080p still looks fine anyway. I never understood the 4K push.
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>>271270
>I never understood the 4K push.
"In theory", the push was for the purposes of delivering digital images in the highest quality possible. However the practice is where everything fell apart. First was the problem that the ONLY 4k TVs that were in production were "Smart TVs" and computer monitors, and people were extremely weary of the idea of now having their fucking TV spying on them as well. Second was how silly the TVs got with the 4K push, where companies were trying to advertise all these "special features" like HDR and high refresh rates and curved screens, even getting to the point of of now selling 8K TVs on no other feature than just "bigger number". But this all fell apart with the third factor that was how unimpressed people were with the actual quality. During the early years of the push for HD, people were making the comment that they didn't care about seeing a production at 720p/1080p because they didn't see "that" much improvement from when things were 480p (Aside from the tiny text "now" present in then-current gen games), and the push for 4K only amplified this further with how people see almost "zero" difference between an image presented at 1080p and an image presented at 4k. Especially when you're sitting anywhere from 3-20 feet from a computer screen. This reality is even more sticking when 4k cellphone screens have been on the market for the past decade, yet have never quite caught on as even the latest iPhone still settles for "QHD screens" (1440p).
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>>271270
so does 480p but we still pushed for 1440p
>>271271
>HDR and high refresh rates
Those are actually good features. I will say that one thing I like about 4K is that it makes integer scaling low resolutions easier. Like you can't integer scale an 800x600 game on a 1080p screen, but you can scale it 3x on a 4K screen. And 1080p 2x scale will fill an entire 4K screen so there is no downside to just continuing to use that resolution.
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>>271273
>Those are actually good features.
I would agree, but they're almost never used properly. TVs, even before 4K, have tried to sell themselves on "high refresh rates", mostly through faking it, and it results in pictures that either become a visual mess or are too sickening to experience because the motion in action looks far too unnatural. Meanwhile with HDR, all it's really ever used is for is to add more "subtleties" in the already bland color palettes used on screen, yet it seems like games were far more colorful and had better art styles when things were restricted to 16-32 bits.
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>>271274
HDR doesn't mean shit because video gets downsampled to 8 bits per channel to compensate for commercial editing software slowing down enormously when working with 10 or 12 bits per channel.
>source: my brother does digital video editing for pedowood
>>271202
I mean you could get a 5700XT, it's an option, not a good one but  an option nonetheless.
AMD + 10-12GB + under $200 ain't happening right now, maybe you get lucky with a dumbass selling you a clapped out 6700 / 6700XT but those are more in the 250-300 range.
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>>271249
2160x1440 (1440p) isn't 4K
4K is 3840 × 2160
1440p is 62.5% less pixels than 4K.

>>271277
I'd be fine with jewtel, but everything is out of stock with no restock in sight.
I thought prices were going to be less insane, but it's like it only got worse.
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>>271279
>62.5% less pixels than 4K
it also has double the fps and there's almost virtually no difference visually unless you are playing something like gta v and staring off into the distance
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>>271279
His goal wasn't 1440p, anon.
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>>271171
How much is a 1080ti over there, used?
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>>271282
You faggots are focusing on a retarded anon >>271249 who thinks that I want 4K when I want 1440p

It doesn't matter anyway.
I'm better off purchasing a new APU (which can dynamically allocate VRAM) and the accompanying hardware (RAM+motherboard+cooler) if the alternative is buying a used card for premium prices.
Even the 380 is good enough.
>>271381
I hate the new names, fucking hell.
>>271381
what is this?
>>271381
Please post results, if they're good Im gonna skip a gpu too
>>271381
>"I hate having to pay $200 for a 6600"
>"better pay $400 for a R5 7600 + 1050ti equivalent"
This is your brain on retard juice
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>>271397
>sips super retard juice 
laptop cpus
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>>271404
>"Here's your laptop bro"
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>>271406
I mean, flip it to its side and you could put a decent monitor and a nice keyboard on it.
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>>271416
Just need a backpack with 2-5Kg of batteries if you expect to use it more than 30 minute
>>271397
>1050ti
>4GB vram
AMD APUs can dynamically allocate more than 4GB RAM.
So with that "laptop 1050ti" I can have a 16+GB vram card.
With AV1 encoding.

>6600
Were 150 USD used 2 years ago.
6600M recycled repackaged cards were ~140-160 and had better performance/watt than 6600s.
Now they're both ~200

I want 1440p.
I don't want to pay scalper prices for it. (this precludes any NVIDIA product)
I don't want to pay scalpers.
I don't want to have to compromise with barely capable hardware, because I'm already at that point.
I will overpay for a new CPU+RAM+mobo because I use my CPU more than my vidya card, and I can use more than 32GB of RAM.

A B580 would work, but no stock, and scalpers.
A RX6700xt 10GB would work, but scalpers.

APUs will drop in price.
>>271419
Fat lot of good 16GB does if your tiny dick laptop GPU doesn't have the fillrate to use it, not even considering how much slower system RAM is compared to GDDR6x. The only APU that actually supports >4GB of allocation to my knowledge is the scalptacular Strix Halo, and even that doesn't have the grunt to really take advantage of more than about 8GB unless you're using it as an AI training accelerator.
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>>271419
>AMD APUs can dynamically allocate more than 4GB RAM.
>So with that "laptop 1050ti" I can have a 16+GB vram card.
>With AV1 encoding.
Only thing that VRAM is gonna be useful for is AI, then again that way you'll have some intelligence, albeit artificial.

>I don't want to pay scalper prices for it. (this precludes any NVIDIA product)
New yes, secondhand no, Nvidia cards are perfectly competitive in the secondhand market
>A RX6700xt 12GB would work, but scalpers.
First off that card does not exist, it's either 6700 10GB or 6700XT 12GB
>$250ish
>scalper
That is not what that word means

>APUs will drop in price.
Hue, not with AI bros around

So I'm left with making fun of you for spending $800+ on a mini PC / $1200+ on a laptop because you refuse to pay $200-$300 for a GPU (and maybe $300ish if you wanna upgrade the CPU as well!)
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>>271420
>supports >4GB of allocation to my knowledge
5600g+ will dynamically allocate over 16GB

>>271421
>Only thing that VRAM is gonna be useful for is AI
Texture resolution.
>Nvidia
No thanks.
>That is not what that word means
>4 year old card
>prices never drop in used market
>used prices actually increasing
>not scalping
Here's your 1999 ford explorer with 2million miles on it. Best I can offer is 64K. I know what I got.
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That nigga really going to pay over $800 to learn the lesson everyone else learned by buying some trash display adapter with 4 times too much VRAM

>>271422
>Texture resolution.
Oh good you can play Skyrim with 16k textures, and enjoy a slideshow in anything actually modern.
>>not scalping
Were those cards purchased new with the sole purpose of reselling them at a higher value, no, then it's not scalping.
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>look up the top end APU benchmarks for a laugh
>anon really is gonna buy something that isn't even half as powerful for 1440p gaming
>>271381
ESLanon, when you say “make due at 1440p” it means youre settling for 1440p, and dont want to. Implying you want more than 1440p.
>>271419
Wouldn't it be better to buy a new computer and then wait for gpus to arrive or something?
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>>271429
GPUs ain't getting cheaper anytime soon, would need an AI cash or for someone to literally BTFO everyone else in the AI hardware accelerator department, maybe purely dedicated AI chips might help but look at what having a much bigger HPC market did to Nvidia.
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Guys, what do you think of my new car for off-roading/rally? It was only half the price they wanted for a WRX STI!
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>>271432
remove the tires and do some modifications and add tank threads and you'll be gud

>>271423
you're gonna get a slide show in skyrim too most likely unless you actually priortize  framerates and gameplay over freaky r*p* mods
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>>271434
what is wrong with rope mods?
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>>271451
rope burn isn't  implemented yet
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Is a 2060 enough for running an LLM for roleplaying?
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>>271531
Do none of the simpler LLMs on Jan AI work for you with your current hardware?
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>>271590
Anything below 12b sucks ass.
Even 12b isnt that good.
What's the name of that Windows hardware detection program I always forget the name of?
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>>271935
Device manager?
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>>271936
No, the external, downloadable tool with the grey-green color palette. I think I might have written it off a decade ago as a virus because of a Softonic download or something.
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I was waiting for a price drop on the 3050 kalmx (fanless gpu) but it seems like its not happening. I think i will build my fanless pc in the upcoming month or two
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I would not recommend AMD graphics cards to anyone. Maybe i just had shitty luck but i bought what is considered to be the best AMD brand twice (nitro+) and both times the cards had extreme coil whine. I mean the cards basically fucking roared when i scrolled or did anything at all. Even in idle they coil whined.
Amd cpu = Good
Amd gpu = Bad
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>>272038
sounds like bad luck to me. even then if you wanna use linux and not be on windoze you gotta have a amd card since nvidia drivers are still not on par. not that I would actually buy a nvidia card anymore fuckin ai bitcoin chasing apes
>>271940
Speccy
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I hadn't paid attention to the GPU market too closely in the last 6-7 years, but is supersampling just... not prioritized anymore? I remember supersampling on fairly modern games like 3-5 years ago and getting nice smooth image quality with minimal AA, but it occurs to me that I haven't seen anyone talk about supersampling for benchmarks or graphics quality comparison.

Is the quest for 4K ultra-ultra-ultra HD resolutions really at the point where people are buying crazy expensive monitors and crazy expensive GPUs to render games that are all slapped together in Unreal, failing to do so, and then at a software level every game uses temporal AA and frame generation to hallucinate detail and invent frames? What the fuck is going on? Why can't I just render a game at 1440p and have it look smooth on my 1080p monitor?
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>>272048
>Why can't I just render a game at 1440p and have it look smooth on my 1080p monitor
DSR exists. but also it's functionally useless since nvidia won't sell you the vram needed to actually play games at the resolution you want. the 4k meme won't go away and games must be produced on time.
because they're only one step away from hiring children and ai to code the game for them and even then epic's shitty engine isn't a perfect solution for every game.
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>>272048
Anon, recent games already need upscaling filters to even run at decent framerates, even at 1080p, what makes you even begin to think you could run at higher resolution then downscale?
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>>272049
>the 4k meme won't go away and games must be produced on time.
>>272053
>recent games already need upscaling filters to even run at decent framerates, even at 1080p
Make it stop. I want to get off the ride. Make it STOP.
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>>272082
>Make it stop. I want to get off the ride.
Do you? Seriously, do you actually want off?
>>272082
You can leave anytime, but the passengers will never get smarter and stop consuming slop. they will moan and complain but they are enjoying it much like a pig  rolling around in mud.
Games used be  something you bought once and a few years later you had a sequel that is actually worth buying now you can compare them to phones or cars.

at one point the nerds drove the vehicle instead of the smart phone addicted 33 year old
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If you want a RAID setup with two drives, is it bad if you have it on your normal PC (and maybe use a FreeBSD VM for ZFS and pass the drives to it) as opposed to having a separate NAS server?
>>272053
>recent games
So just play old games then?
Those handle SSAA just fine, sometimes without any mods even.
>>271935
>>272045
use hwinfo
speccy is for retards.
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