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If you have a simple one-liner question, ask it here.
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I'm seeing contradictory information on low weight, high rep routines. Some people say they're worthless, but apparently a lot of old bodybuilders were successful with high rep routines. Are they useful for performance, or strictly hypertrophy?
I'm completely new to lifting and don't want to buy more weights than I have to, seeing as gyms in my area are currently fucked.
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>>45
Bodybuilding is a gay meme and to this day I still don't understand how people still think it's possible. Just do some light exercise everyday and you have already look your peak. No amount of exercise is going to make you look buff (as fuck) unless you are a fat ass which defeats the purpose. The only reason those bodybuilders look the way they are is from drugs.
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>>41 (OP) 
Is it ok to train biceps and chest at same time ?
And is it ok to increase the weight and dercrease the number of repetition after each set ? like for example :
I did 10kg bench-press 12 times then the next set I do 12kg but 8 times.
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>>51
If you legit have no strength to finish the reps, then it's fine, but you should still try to to finish them. Ask someone to spot you and give you a little help if it's necessary.
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>>52
>ask someone to spot you
Is it true that bodybuilders love sucking dick?
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>>48
This really doesn't answer my question. I'm interested in whether or not high rep low weight sets are beneficial for someone who's not lifting for looks. When I said "old bodybuilders" I'm talking about Eugene Sandow old, not Schwarzenegger old.
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Does anyone recommend a daily and morning stretching and workout routine?
>>59
In a way that looks like nitschze
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Are men like Eddie Hall, Martins Licis and Julius Bjornsson so strong due to peak genetics or can somebody reach such an impressive strength through sheer training and dedication?
Mainly asking because every time I see them in videos I feel like that even if I really tried, I could never come even close to them.
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>>69
Does it matter?
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>>70
Yes. Are they merely an exception to the rule, a super rare genetic miracle that may get forever lost if they die, or can any determined man reach, or at least come close to, their status if he trains hard enough?
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>>71
But I mean, if you found out for sure that you could never be as strong as Eddie Hall, would you stop training? Strength is relative, the weakest gorilla around can still rip Eddie Hall's arms off, so the only comparison that matters is to your own self. That's how I see it anyway.
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>>72
>if you found out for sure that you could never be as strong as Eddie Hall, would you stop training?
No
> the weakest gorilla around can still rip Eddie Hall's arms off
Gorillas are way weaker than the retarded 1920s tests claimed. But unfortunately the shit information about them from back then has become the norm layman knowledge nowadays. You too are a victim of this misinformation. Gorillas can't rip your arms off, anon. They are dumb animals and Eddie would fucking kill them in a fight.
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>>73
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>>58
Yes
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>current year /fit/ can't even answer my beginner question about reps
>also believes 500 lbs apes are weak when fucking chimps are stronger than humans
Sure is cuckchan in here.
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>>45
Arnold liked to do both. He'd warm up, then do a weight he could do no more than 15 (Might have been 12 but I can't remember for sure. Doesn't matter too much just go with what you like.) reps with, then something he could do no more than 10 with, then 8 then 6 then he'd try to squeeze out another 6 reps. He would also have designated "heavy days" wherein he'd do heavy weights for low reps.
Reason for this is that while bodybuilding is more about looking strong rather than being strong and high reps are certainly better for getting more mass, high weights are what give them a harder, more aesthetic appearance. So he concocted this routine to get the best of both worlds: The lean mass of high reps and the hard, shapeliness of high weight.
Outside of aesthetics, it has its pros and cons. High reps at low weight puts more strain on your ligaments which makes them stronger but also gives you mad DOMS. It also doesn't do much for your strength but its good for muscular endurance.
Personally I favour high weight, low (2-5) reps, but I always start and finish with with my 10-15 rep weight. It seems to be working.

>>48
Shut up, you misbegotten cuckold. Just because you're so inbred that you look like those agent orange kids in Vietnam doesn't mean the rest of us won't make it.
Yes most, if not all of the bigger, leaner guys use(d) roids. But there is no shortage of ripped/swole guys out there that have never touched anything harder than coffee and onions. The only catch is that none of them are happa or jewish, so you have my condolences.

>>51
>Is it ok to train biceps and chest at same time ?
Yes. You're most likely going to be doing bench press for chest which doesn't touch your biceps.
That being said, I'd advise against bothering with curls as a beginner unless you personally have a special reason to isolate biceps or you only do them as an afterthought. Beginners are better off doing compounds like chin-ups and rows.
>And is it ok to increase the weight and dercrease the number of repetition after each set ?
Of course! Basically everybody does this and it's the best way to train because your light sets warm you up for the heavy ones.
And, of course, spotters are always a good idea. Especially if you're new because they can help with your form. Don't listen to the nigglets!

>>58
Yes. Personally I like to suck femboy dick. The cute noises they make when you tease their feminine cocks are out of this world and the high fruit diets they typically eat make their cummies the most delicious thing you could ever eat.

>>65
I do not, but have this (you) instead.

>>69
The simple answer is "Genetics.". Chances are, you're no threat to the World's Strongest Man title.
However! You should still train to be the best you can be. Being the 1000th or even the 10,000th strongest man in the world is still incredibly useful, respectable and sexy, and unless you look like the bone goblin, you don't know what potential your DNA holds. There are so many timid lardasses and scrawny lanklets out there that have potential, but they don't see it because they waste their lives playing World of Warcraft.

>>93
Yeah some people ITT are pretty fucking gay and that's coming from a dude who's favourite food is femboy semen.
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>>98
>Yes. Personally I like to suck femboy dick. The cute noises they make when you tease their feminine cocks are out of this world and the high fruit diets they typically eat make their cummies the most delicious thing you could ever eat.
>that's coming from a dude who's favourite food is femboy semen.
I hope this is satire.
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>>74
>>93
>m-muh SUPER POWERFUL dumb gorilla will rip your arms off, snipe your back in two and blah blah blah
>Proof? I have no proof because (excuses)
Studies show chips are weak. What makes you think gorillas are any different? A well built man would wipe the floor with a retard gorilla. People still unironically believe the 'gorillas can lift over 800kg!' meme even though not once was this ever proven. Not even halfway close. https://archive.vn/S5aR4
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>>106
>chips
Meant chimps, obviously. Here's a picture of a few dead gorillas for fun.
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>>98
I mean, thanks for answering my question but bloody hell.
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>>106
A 315 pound gorilla can run 25 miles per hour. You are retarded.
>>98
>Muh genetics
It's not genetics it could be that he has eaten well enough to build a proper body and you don't need meat to have a healthy and strong body. Eddie is a fucking Jew there is no way in hell it's genetics. 
>Yes. Personally I like to suck femboy dick. The cute noises they make when you tease their feminine cocks are out of this world and the high fruit diets they typically eat make their cummies the most delicious thing you could ever eat.
>Femboy
Are you that same faggot on /b/? Because this explains why you're so retarded.
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>>113
>you don't need meat to have a healthy and strong body.
Vegetards need to be burned alive.
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>>114
>No indication that in a vegan at all
>Just meat bro! You'll be fit and strong in no time!
>What is a  bio-diverse diet
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>>115
>bio-diverse diet
A meme, just like every other diet that doesn't put you in a state of ketosis.
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>>106
You are one dumb ass niggermonkey yourself you know that right? First of all Gorilla weight like twice or three times as your average body builder and can easily tear down a banana tree while bodybuilders cannot or require some from of equipment and time to destroy one fucking tree. I dare you face up against a Gorilla and not come back with bruises and broken bones.
>>107
>Ah yes abusing animals and pictures of dead gorillas being shot proves my superiority!
You're just as gay as >>98
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>>116
> A meme
Please educate me on a diet where you seek to grow and eat a wide spread of different types of plant based foods is a meme.
>>117
>0 arguments
>yeah well, you see, this one time I saw a gorilla tear down a banana tree!
>This is ultimate proof of how supernaturally strong gorillas are. Humans stand no chance, not once, not ever. Gorillas will kill us all in an unarmed fight.
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<0 arguments
No, surprise that you're really retarded. I argued why you're wrong about gorillas. Another thing to note gorillas have incredibly dense muscles and also have way more muscles than we do and on top of that can absorb twice more nutrients from eating numerous amounts of food from eating due to their large stomachs. This is something a bodybuilder does not have and can't do, so a gorilla absolutely would kick your ass.
<yeah well, you see, this one time I saw a gorilla tear down a banana tree!
There is no one time dumbass they do this often, gorillas fuck up trees to get bananas, or for pure entertainment. You still haven't brought a proper counter argument.
<This is ultimate proof of how supernaturally strong gorillas are. Humans stand no chance, not once, not ever. Gorillas will kill us all in an unarmed fight.
Didn't I just say that they are  twice the weight of the average body builder? If you want to toe to toe with a gorilla then go ahead I wouldn't stop you as a matter of fact I would pay a ticket to see you get your ass beaten crying like a bitch. The only way you would win is either the gorilla is an absolute retard to not know how to fight back or need a weapon to win otherwise a gorilla one on one in an unarmed fight is going to beat your shit. None of what you said contradict nor counters my points, but only putting words into my mouth, because your nigger brain can't do any proper research whatsoever.
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>>119
The idea of humans "fighting" wild animals bigger than themselves is so stupid I don't even want to argue about it. Being in a fight with feral nigger human who isn't trying to use technique and is just swinging wildly is hard enough, fighting a 300 to 500 pound animal with enough grip strength to pop your skull like a melon, that also bites, is out of the question. Normal humans can barely handle 12 pound feral cats for fucks sake, even housecats have driven off burglars.
Also elite powerlifters are shit at fighting anyway because they have to spend all their time lifting instead of developing skills. 90% of any weight division in the UFC would fuck up almost any pure strength athlete. Not that it would make a difference in "man vs gorilla".
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>>103
>>109
Just having a spot of fun, lads.

>>113
Dude we are talking about the strongest men on the planet, not just really strong guys. A genetically average guy could become ridiculously strong with the right diet and hard work, but it takes a genetic ubermensch + hard work + passion + amazing diet to become The Strongest.
As for Eddie being a jew? The Ashkenazim are weak due to inbreeding and disgenics but they also have shitloads of european DNA and outliers do happen. Also, all it takes to be considered (((chosen))) is for your mother to be (((chosen))). Ergo, you could have a line of girls marrying big, 100% goy scottish highlanders dating back to a jewish woman in the 18th century yet their descendant is still technically jewish. So I would ask you to elaborate on Eddie's jewish heritage before you dismiss him as genetic trash.
>left-of-field vegetarian shilling
Are you that Hitlerposter from the other thread? Remember that Hitler wasn't a vegetarian when he was in the military. He only stopped eating meat after he got a job where physical prowess was of secondary importance. It's all good and noble to not hurt animals, but you're not proving much when you are, by your own admission, a DYEL. Being skinny and flexible works for you, but it's not for everyone.

>>107
If those monkeys didn't have guns or machetes, that silverback could have easily massacred the lot of them with his bare hands. I don't know what you're trying to prove besides that you're a subhuman. A cow that spends her life fucking around the pasture can outlift any man. I don't see how a cow-sized man that spends his life doing gymnastics while on a bulk is gonna be weaker than a man-sized man. Not to mention this cow-sized man's muscles are, kilo fo kilo, "1.5 times" as strong as the man-sized man's.
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>>124
Hitlerposter here, that's not me. My views on vegetarianism are more nuanced. I think from a conventional science point of view, a balanced diet including meat is nutritionally superior to vegetarianism, and I'm not opposed to eating hunted meat when I know who shot it and prepped it.
That said, I think (((factory farming))) is unacceptable, and I unironically believe in qi, and that slaughterhouses will permeate the meat with negative qi that will at best, cause anger, anxiety depression or stress, and worst case, cause physical illness.
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>>125
Yeah I can totally agree with that. I need to learn how to hunt so I don't need to worry about if my meat came from factory farms or those poor chicken-like abominations that can't walk.
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What are some high protein lunch combos I can buy without raping my wallet, bring to work, and have them not taste like shit?
>take ingredients that have a high protein/cost ratio
>think of nutritious things you could cook with them that are still enjoyable the next day
>cook those things, but with a greater proportion of high-protein ingredients
That's my strategy.
Soups are good because they are better the next day and make good use of bones and cheap cuts. They suck if you don't have a microwave/stove at work though.
Chicken, eggs, milk, bugs, mushrooms, lentils and beans are good ingredients to use. Combining beans and rice is an ancient alchemical trick to materialize extra protein from The Void.
I like to cook stir-fries, omelettes, curries, chankonabe, minestrone and chili con carne. Also you can just do something like bring boiled eggs, protein shakes, fried/baked/raw meats and other standalone protein foods alongside whatever fruits, vegetables and carbs suit your fancy, rather than making singular dishes.
Also consider using organ meats. They are very nutritious but most people find them repulsive so they are also cheap as shit. Personally I find liver to be disgusting but birds seem to have rather enjoyable livers. I sometimes like to make stroganof but I substitute 1/3 of the beef for chicken livers. Don't eat liver too frequently though! It'll give you vitamin A poisoning if you do.
>>121
>>122
>>124
>post research that debunks the chimps are super strong meme
<but surely gorilla strength can't be ridiculously overrated! They can totally lift over 800kg and beat the shit out of us all, hurr durr

Also
>muh banana tree
I didn't even have to spend more than 1 minute to find 2 people beating the shit out of these trees. And both of these men probably weight 1/5th as the retard gorilla in that other video, which says a lot. 
>Australian punches a banana tree until it breaks and falls: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x65hv4k
>Muai Thai monkey kicks a banana tree until it falls. 2nd kick pretty much did it, 3rd kick finished it off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gloGY3UDZDo

There is no doubt in my mind that if they simply wrestled the tree it would snap just like with the gorilla's. Instead they're kicking and punching it to show off.
>>137
Your post didn't debunk shit and my previous post clearly illustrated how you are wrong even if the link you posted was 100% true. Please consider suicide, you shit-smeared retard.
>>137
The fact that you think a banana tree disproves that gorillas are stronger than humans is hilarious. Banana trees aren't even a good example of comparing human and gorilla strength at all considering that banana trees are as tough as an most trees, which is why these guys were able to beat it down with fists and kicks. If you want to disprove that gorillas aren't strong then why don't you go fight an actual gorilla and be the man to debunk zoologist and biologist that they're weak shit?
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>>143
>Are as a tough
*Aren't as tough
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>>124
>Dude we are talking about the strongest men on the planet, not just really strong guys. A genetically average guy could become ridiculously strong with the right diet and hard work, but it takes a genetic ubermensch + hard work + passion + amazing diet to become The Strongest.
Their is no confirmation whatosever that it's genetics, both of his parents are Jews whether they have Euro genes or not, there is no proof that he is genetically fit.
>>137
>>post research that debunks the chimps are super strong meme
Cool, but that has nothing to do with gorillas, and your own article only talks about chimpanzees.
>Thinks that two random dudes punching and kicking bananas tree means that they are as strong as gorillas
>Anon doesn't know that bananas trees are weak as shit when it comes to its bark compared to other trees.
You're a retarded refer to >>122, comparing a gorilla to a human in terms of strength makes no sense at all. Gorillas weight way more than humans do and they have more muscles. You have done nothing to disprove the anons who are arguing with you and seem to seek to only be a retard on /fit/. I wouldn't be surprise if you originated on cuckchan.
What made Muhammad Ali good at fighting?
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>>165
We have a martial arts thread >>27
Why wouldn't you ask there? 
The short answer to your question is, remarkably light and slick footwork for a heavyweight. That and shady boxing underground dealings.
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>>167
I don't know but for some reason I didn't it the thread. I'm just noticing we have a /fit/ after browsing /v/ this whole time on the site.
The only kind of curls I'm doing right now are Zottman curls because I'm obsessed with the idea of grip strength and Popeye forearms, is that enough, or could there be a problem with this approach?
>>59
Still drugs, didn't they use bull testosterone or something like that?
>>98
Give me some examples of the supposedly natural bodybuilders your talking about.
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I'm planning to buy one of those pull up bars that mount in-between door frames, thing is my door frames are made of cheap ass thin wood and the walls aren't too solid either. Question is, what are the odds I fuck my shit up and break everything including myself? Anyone has experience with these kinda things?
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>>184
>being this sheltered
Just go anywhere that has people that actually use their muscles and look around. You wanna tell me every labourer is on roids? Or that some nigger in the middle of The Congo even has access to them?

>>192
How much do you weigh? How cheap are we talking? Doorframes are surprisingly strong, so unless you live in China or some other shithole or you have rot/termites, you should be alright.
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>>194
I'm barely 140 lbs, and I dunno how cheap, they are new so I don't think they're rotting at all but they look very damn flimsy and some parts aren't even attached properly, see pics.
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>>194
See you just proved my point, how can a nigger in the congo spend his money and effort in the gym and food but still look ripped? You will never get big going to the gym. I never said you can't get ripped, just that you will never be able to look even remotely close to hollywood type of body. Not without drugs. Your bicep will never be so big that everyone cant help but to look that them.
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I've been looking at the 5/3/1 routines. Anyone tried them out before? I am sick of just flailing at the gym with no progress.
How many of you have built or are building a home gym due to Chinese aids? Wondering if there's enough people to warrant making a thread about it to ask questions.
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>>204
I looked and EVERYTHING is sold out or on back order. So thats on hold.
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>>206
I've been going through craigslists religiously to find deals. I got a shitty bench, bar, and some weights for an alright price all things considered. New stuff still gets restocked, it just gets bought nearly immediately. I found this reddit thread that has bots that constantly post whenever the main suppliers update their websites with new inventory. https://old.reddit.com/r/homegym/comments/j1d716/stock_and_shipping_25_sept_2020/
I need to buy a rack for squats next followed by rubber plates for dead lifts. Can't wait to drain my bank account with those purchases.
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>>207
>spoiler
I'll just stick with my single dumbbell and callisthenics.
>>197
Damn, someone fucked up. I'd be nervous about that too, even at 60kg. I think this is something you should ask a carpenter about.

>>201
Now you're not even talking sense. There are ripped jungleniggers. Jungleniggers do not have junglesteroids. You're trying to tell me that anybody can get ripped by climbing trees and swinging machetes, but gyms have some sort of gainz-stealing aura that stops this? You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Just go back to fapping to NTR and keep your weird defeatist obsession to yourself.

>>206
Yeah, fuck buying things these days. Thankfully, timber, scrap metal and concrete are still affordable.
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>>137
From the article you linked
>Yet his team’s experiments and computer models show that a chimpanzee muscle is only about a third stronger than a human one of the same size.
A third stronger is a lot stronger retard
>The team went on to look at the muscle of chimps that had died of natural causes, which revealed that two-thirds of their muscle consists of fast-twitch fibres, whereas more than half of human fibres are slow-twitch.
Hence why chimps can win against humans in a fight
>>41 (OP) 
Do you lads know any great Push/Pull workout program ?
My friend refuses to do deadlifts with me claiming it'll fuck up your joints. How valid is his point and if it isn't, is there any scientific documentation to disprove it? He's one of those faggots that requires a study to believe anything about weight lifting. Took me over a month to convince him to do squats properly. He unironically brought up a guide on how to do body weights squats while pregnant as a good example of his "scientifically accurate proper form".
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>>214
I don't know anything about lifting, but did you tell him that he's a retard and that women have a higher centre of gravity, which makes their  ideal biomechanics different than that of a man?
Can you get /fit/ with bodyweight alone or is it "gym or bust"?
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>>223
I'm no expert but if arnie says you can get do it with bodyweight exercises only, then I trust him
>>209
Show me the buff as fuck congo nigger without steroids then genius, since you seem to know them well personally. If the congo nigger is already ripped, it proves my point that you dont even need to train jack shit to reach your potential, and gym certainly wont help you. Also I never said gym restricts your muscle development retard, it's just not going to work noticeably better than say, doing 50 push up a day.
>>41 (OP) 
Lads what can I do to maximize my weight lost program? I'm already doing fasting which cuts down 1-2kg per week, but I feel like I can do better than this. I don't feel like going water only and I'm training everyday as well.
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is it possible to make gains and lose fat at the same time? I'm not overweight but the small amount of body fat around my stomach has really been bothering me lately, what's the ideal diet to burn it off and how long would it take assuming I follow it religiously?
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>>252
If you're just beginning then sure
>what's the ideal diet to burn it off and how long would it take assuming I follow it religiously?
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>>273
the premise of that website seems good but it's basically telling me to eat 1,3 kilos of food per meal, that can't be right
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>>273
that site is archaic as fuck, and I'm not willing to spend $200+ every two weeks on groceries. wouldn't a high protein/low carb diet while running on a treadmill every day have the same effect?
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>>276
You're likely doing something wrong with the inputs
>>277
You can customize it if you're a poor fuck, select broke in nutrition type.
> wouldn't a high protein/low carb diet while running on a treadmill every day have the same effect?
Yes indeed, that's the point.
Should I stop fapping? If so why should I stop?
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>>314
It's up to you man. It's an exchange of a large amount of your yang creative energy for a few seconds of intense pleasure. If you save up that energy instead other effects will be produced. There's no moral judgement involved, it's just a question of if you want to be more productive and get more shit done.
>>314
I'd encourage you to stop, but the jury is still out on that one, there must be some truth to the old wisdom of abstinence though.
>>314
I hear that once per week is optimal for testosterone production. I think a lot of it was perpetuated by Muhammad Ali and the movie Raging Bull, but everyone does it so it can’t be that unhealthy. I’d just do it if you get the urge to when you see something rather than just doing it out of boredom or lethargy.
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>>345
Does blue balling increase testosterone? I feel like when you're in a constant state of horniness, more man juice can be created.
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>>350
not really, there is an upper limit to how much you can have in your system, and having too much (yes, it is possible) does cause actual medical issues (hair loss being one of them among other things). being horny all the time fucking sucks anyways, you just feel like a zombie. blue balling is also a bad idea anyways, never understood the appeal
>>41 (OP) 
Has anyone tips to prevent male pattern baldness? I've got a very clear receding line, but I'm still on an age to prevent the situation to worsen.
how bad are energy drinks for you? I typically try to limit myself to one every week/two weeks but i'm worried about building up a long-term dependency on them and potential health issues that could come from them
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>>390
awful, though one or two a month shouldn't be a problem
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>last Sunday
>have lower back DOMS for some reason
>do deadlifts anyway
>stop when back begins to actually hurt
>now my back has been sore for nearly a week
This IS DOMS, right? It didn't feel like I'd done anything catastrophic and it still just feels like DOMS.  I've been resting it since then, of course.

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