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This thread for the discussion of pro-white resistance, past or present, from an onlookers perspective, especially focused on people such as Anders Behring Breivik, Brenton Tarrant and the various copycats that we've seen since March 2019. Are they doing what has to be done? Is it more harmful than helpful? Are they all false flags? Discuss!

Memes should go here: >>4


>The Breivik Archive
https://ia601002.us.archive.org/6/items/breivikarchive/
>Manifestos 
http://picochanwvqfa2xsrfzlul4x4aqtog2eljll5qnj5iagpbhx2vmfqnid.onion/fascist/4#823

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By and large I do believe the majority of us need to start maneuvering ourselves into positions of authority and power, especially legal, that way we can cover for brave lads like tarrant and breivik in the courts, much in the same way the hebrews cover for their own scumbags should some goon in a uniform arrest one of their assets. They're wasted in prison, after all, they should be back in the field training other operatives.
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>>62
Irrelevant.
There will never be a change if current system will not be destroyed from top to bottom, including all existing institutions.
The goal here is not to become a judge to review a Saint's imprisonment, but to eradicate the whole justice system along with the zionist occupied government it serves.
And how do you intend to destroy the system when all your guys are in lockup for life because the pigs of the state take all their orders from kike judges and kike lawyers?
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>>67
By not getting caught, this is one reason wjy we read SIEGE,.
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>>69
Rather restricts your options then, doesn't it? Imagine complete and total legal immunity, then your guys can do whatever they need to do in broad daylight, just like their coked up nickel and dime retards can do for them because they can spring them back out immediately.
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>>73
No, it frees you, it teaches you how to go anywhere and so long as you act like you belong, and dress the part, nobody ever stops you. Outside of high security areas, that is. For those, there are many methods for getting into them. We do not have the time or the luxury,( or the ability) to infiltrate the power system like in your fucking pipe dream, and if we did infiltrate the power system in such a way, we would effectively be the power system, so there would be no reason to do any sort of terroristic act in any way. We work with what we have, not with what we wish we had, go ahead waste 7years becoming a lawyer and 20 or more becoming a judge, when you can act now, with some research, and care and not have to worry about going down unless you fuck up royally, and if so, you better have a negro you can pin it on.
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>>85
>We do not have the time or the luxury,( or the ability) to infiltrate the power system like in your fucking pipe dream
I'm well aware of how frustratingly unachievable this "pipe dream" sounds to you, and you're entirely correct, but that's because it can't be certainly can't achieved in our lifetime, this would require generations of work.
Which I'm fine with, because I consider this whole generation, and the prior, to be unsalvageable anyways; way too much ingrained Judaism at this point Definitely a path to power for the grandchildren and their children, as it were. 
>we would be the power system so there would be no reason
Violence is always beneficial. Whole cuckservative population trembles in fear over one stupid word, that's how beneficial violence is.  
>we work with what we have, not with what we wish we had
We don't even have that (on a large enough scale to make a permanent impact), so since we're definitely in the development stage I would advocate preparation for a war on all fronts, not just the underground and highly arrest-able front. I appreciate that, with care, anyone can bomb a few power plants, and while this would cause waves of frustration and panic, those would eventually come back online and then have security guards the next round. I'm for it, of course, I just think some meddling behind the curtains would go a long way in keeping those plants shut down permanently, much like Europe being oil deprived by Russia because their leaders of state (I'll have to look to see if the advisers are semites or not, would be a laugh if they are) have decided to switch over to "green" energy with absolutely no transition plan in place. 
As for myself, I won't even be able to be a lawyer in this lifetime, but with a big family and, with luck, a few of them managing to become highly skilled in high societal infiltration and particularly deception would be the beginning of a web of important influence. Anyways, those are my plans, a kike free upbringing for the children, as much as possible, while also advocating high influence, (and income), kinds of work to start snatching up land and to poison and destabilize the system as existing in our favor instead of theirs. Those members of the family who prove to have too much of a conscience to not be sleazy lawyers/doctors/etc. can have the land to be independent from the system as much as possible, while the others can play the game of running water for "radicals" and "terrorists," as the system so calls them for now. Just wish I could be there to watch it all, but I'll be long dead by then, sadly.
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>>106
>I'm well aware of how frustratingly unachievable this "pipe dream" sounds to you, and you're entirely correct, but that's because it can't be certainly can't achieved in our lifetime, this would require generations of work.
You just proved my point, we have less than a generation before at least half, if not more, of  the white population on earth  is dead of old age less than half of what remains is of child bearing age, and you want to essentially play daddy on a farm and attempt to teach your kids to outjew the jew, our race is not suited to that, it is inherent to their nature and anathema to our nature.
>Which I'm fine with, because I consider this whole generation, and the prior, to be unsalvageable anyways; way too much ingrained Judaism at this point definitely a path to power for the grandchildren and their children, as it were. 
No, we don't even have time for your imaginary children to do it let alone that of your equally imaginary grandchildren
>Violence is always beneficial. Whole cuckservative population trembles in fear over one stupid word, that's how beneficial violence is. 
What word? Nazi? Fascist? and if we were the power structure, the violence we would use wouldn't technically be terrorism.
>We don't even have that (on a large enough scale to make a permanent impact), so since we're definitely in the development stage I would advocate preparation for a war on all fronts, not just the underground and highly arrest-able front. 
Going into the system to "learn" from the system only leads in one direction, you become subverted, oh sure maybe one in ten that you send into that won't give up but it's a waste, there is no benefit to doing so whatsoever, better tosend infliltrators into low but influential positions for the sake of information and sabotage alone.
>I appreciate that, with care, anyone can bomb a few power plants, and while this would cause waves of frustration and panic, those would eventually come back online and then have security guards the next round.
The system barely has enough to police the streets, and there aren't enough mercenaries or stooges to go around, this would accomplish a big part in stretching the system even further, it isn't really something they can absorb
> I'm for it, of course, I just think some meddling behind the curtains would go a long way in keeping those plants shut down permanently.
In the best case scenario, they would be down for weeks, if not, months, that long without power and people get very desperate, particularly because they can no longer keep their house warm or cool without a fairly large amount of labor or great expense to get say an old chimney functional again(quite expensive), and this during a time when fuel is at a premium because there isn't enough to go around?
>I much like Europe being oil deprived by Russia because their leaders of state (I'll have to look to see if the advisers are semites or not, would be a laugh if they are) have decided to switch over to "green" energy with absolutely no transition plan in place. 
Firstly Putin himself is a jew, his mothers name was Shalomovitch, second yeah it's hilarious.
>As for myself, I won't even be able to be a lawyer in this lifetime, but with a big family and, with luck, a few of them managing to become highly skilled in high societal infiltration and particularly deception would be the beginning of a web of important influence.
I don't know how many times you fucking idiots will repeat this before you realize that that was exactly Pierce's plan and he spent his entire life on it, and got nowhere, it all fell apart upon his death and his kids have turned their back on him and his legacy.
>Anyways, those are my plans, a kike free upbringing for the children, as much as possible, while also advocating high influence, (and income), kinds of work to start snatching up land and to poison and destabilize the system as existing in our favor instead of theirs. Those members of the family who prove to have too much of a conscience to not be sleazy lawyers/doctors/etc. can have the land to be independent from the system as much as possible, while the others can play the game of running water for "radicals" and "terrorists," as the system so calls them for now. Just wish I could be there to watch it all, but I'll be long dead by then, sadly.
We really don't have the time for your little plan to be of any use, you want to not fight, go ahead, but that's not going to help you when the time comes.
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>>11 (OP) 
we need to fight back, I mean there is no morality at this point, we need to grow further, any virtual fag that says "oh noooo but what about innocent blacks" or "ooooh but arent we going to far?" fuck them, this will work only if we get rid of everyone, a single retard of the retards. I think in race war it will be pretty obvious, but we still need to make more men one way and the other, and that is the hardest part imo, zoomers are too fucking retarded and manipulated for us to get them.
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HAPPENING
Slowakina lad shot a gay bar and posted a manifesto, then remained online posting on twitter and 4chan

https://spectator.sme.sk/c/23032146/two-people-dead-after-a-shooting-in-central-bratislava.html

https://nitter.eu/ntma0315
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>>693
*Slowakian

Original 4chan thread https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/399535969#top
>>693
>kill Jewish politicians
>kills some random fags instead
Fuck sake man literally practice what you say people should do
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>>698
I can't understand it either. What does going after literal nobodies accomplish?
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>>699
It's a pretty standard false flag.
Glowniggers have been doing this exact same schtick for a while now. Always some TL;DR manifesto saying to kill kikes, then the shooter goes and pops fags even though that has nothing to do with anything he apparently set out to do and despite him having infinitely more value alive than dead.
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>>702
The motivation in his manifesto
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>>703
Look at how he dodges the question of how this is supposed to affect kikes at all and shifts the goalpost mid-section. It's utter nonsense made for the sole purpose of being able to say that the guy made a manifesto and not intended to be examined beyond the cover and first page.
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>>693
Did this retard not learn from what happened to Tarrant? Don't fucking self-snitch. 
NEVER SELF-SNITCH
You're not going to a comfy prison like Breivik, it is never worth it to brag about your crimes to random strangers on the Internet, you will ONLY SUFFER like Tarrant when you self-snitch. He had the easiest job regarding the incompetent police in his town.
But instead he even doubled down and posted his face on cuckchan /pol/ and Twitter like some gigantic faggot he is.
BRENTON TARRANT HAS APPEALED HIS SENTENCE AND CONVICTIONS

>Mosque massacre gunman who murdered 51 people is appealing his life sentence and convictions after claiming he was 'subject to inhumane treatment'

>A spokesperson for the New Zealand Court of Appeal confirmed to AAP on Tuesday that Tarrant has filed an appeal against his convictions and sentence.
>A year ago human rights lawyer Tony Ellis wrote in a memo to a coroner that Tarrant told him his guilty pleas were obtained under duress.
>He was also allegedly 'subject to inhumane or degrading treatment while on remand, which prevented a fair trial'.
>'He sent me about 15 pages of narrative of how he had been treated since he'd been in prison,' Dr Ellis wrote in the memo.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11401101/Brenton-Tarrant-Mosque-massacre-gunman-murdered-51-people-appealing-life-sentence.html
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>>808
Brenton Harrison Tarrant killed less of his enemies than Nelson Mandala and the hope is that he will be released in his middle age to take leadership of a White power block in a vastly different political landscape.
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His appeal shows that he has not been crushed by the NZZOG in jail.
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>>819
He tried multiple times before, the ZOG tortured him and threatened him for4 years straight now.
I believe this time they will simply reject his request because he apparently filed it "too late".
>>808
Hopefully he is not forced to drop it again like he was last time he tried this. I can't imagine what he is undergoing there.
Christchurch terrorist claims he only pleaded guilty ‘under duress through torture’

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christchurch-terrorist-claims-he-only-pleaded-guilty-under-duress-through-torture/BCK6UGXRSRGY5FXIIAIYNO2WXQ/

>the terrorist claimed “I only entered a guilty plea under duress through torture”
>He did not have a lawyer acting for him, and said his appeal was out of time due to a “variety of reasons”.
++>“Held under illegal and torturous prison conditions, necessary legal documents withheld from myself, fallout with previous lawyers, irrationality brought on through prison conditions”, he claimed.
>The Australian national was also asked about the nature and complexity of the issues raised by his appeal. He replied:  “myriad and far-reaching, implicates many people, and is of international significance”.
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Seems Horseface flunked the lesson about the Striesland effect in ZOG school. 

>“I made a pledge a long time ago I wouldn’t publicly name the terrorist because his is a story that should not be told,” 

They are pretty thick to elevate him to political prisoner status like they have. No political solution. The race war IS now.
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>>1058
You are glowing
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>>1067
fuck off back to 4cuck
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>>1069
Epic bro, let's glorify acts of terrorism!! That totally doesn't make you stand out like a raging bad faith actor trying to get this site shut down.
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>>1073
>let's glorify acts of terrorism

Yes, and I am tired to pretend we shouldn't.
You, on the other hand, can and must go back to your controlled opposition pasture on twatter, 4cuck or preddit.
You don't belong here, normalnigger deradicalized faggot.
>>1073
Unless I am wrong Sturgeon is American, and runs the site in such a way that it is American law he has to follow, and he is a free speech extremist, so, I suggest you look up the Brandenburg v. Ohio decision of the United States Supreme Court, it is in fact 100% legal to talk about and even encourage direct targeted violence in PUBLIC, so long as the violence you advocate for is not immediate.
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Happy Saint Tarrant day!
4 years ago, Brenton Tarrant added an unprecedented chapter in the dangerous and painful struggle of our race undergoing multifaceted genocide, and he did it by striking a painful blow into the guts of ZOG with his irl action.

Glory to white warriors.
your daily reminder that lone wolf terrorism accomplishes next to nothing and is exactly what the jews in power wanna use to fearmonger against us

if people continue to associate white nationalism with shooting random fags and blowing up substations then it'll always remain a fringe movement

>inb4 it was always a fringe movement
the german people loved hitler retard. this whole thing is gladio C, i.e. deep state ops to shore up state power and encourage dissidents into shooting themselves in the foot

go ahead and ban me tranny jannies I already got banned from frenschan for posting a similar warning

all that matters is a) economics b) reverse marching through the institutions and c) building a mass movement to sieze real power. anyone telling you that shooting up tranny parades or whatever is based is a fucking retard fed
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>>1776
>economics b) reverse marching through the institutions and c) building a mass movement to sieze real power. anyone telling you that shooting up tranny parades or whatever is based is a fucking retard fed

All of this is another way of saying "We need to wait until things get bad enough that people can justify siding with forces that oppose their ZOG", which is really the same goal excelerationists are pursuing less passively.
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>>1778
things have been bad enough for years, the problem is our guys are too busy jerking off to mass shooters instead of doing the nose to the grindstone work in their local communities to build power
let the left do the accelerating and get put in prison for it. we can present ourselves as the most sensible option between "fiery but mostly peaceful" niggers and the kiked system that's killing whites slowly
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>>1779
>we can present ourselves as the most sensible option between "fiery but mostly peaceful" niggers and the kiked system that's killing whites slowly
You put a lot of faith in the ability of NPCs to make sound judgements instead of just do what the Talmudvision tells them to. What exactly does
>nose to the grindstone work in their local communities to build power
look like to you? Asking genuinely.
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>>1780
I will be honest and say that I don't know yet. This realisation that the chans are being used as a grooming ground for Gladio C only hit me fully in the past week or so. My plan is just to start by going outside for a change and meeting as many new people as I can.

I will say that what inspired me was Mike Gill's work trying to expose the New Hampshire drug cartel. He was a mortgage broker who got approached by a bunch of elderly victims of a ponzi scheme that he eventually traced back to this cartel. He's spent years cultivating relationships with local law enforcement and victims of the opioid epidemic trying to get the smugglers in court for their crimes. He hasn't been successful yet but that sort of local intelligence gathering and organising is what immediately comes to mind as an alternative to seejtardery.

I wish I had better answers but I've been psyopped just as hard as everyone else these past few years. I just wanted to share my realisation with anyone who still uses this place and frenschan before I stop posting and start trying to figure out what to do for real

If I learn anything or experience some success I'll stop back in and share, of course. Local politics where I live is dominated by liberals and literal communists so it's certainly going to be an uphill battle. I imagine I'll be forced to move sooner rather than later
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>>1781
Okay well, good luck to you in whatever you come up with. I don't have any more to say except I hope it works out for you.
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If you accept that white nations are already in a race war with fifth generation tactics, then it follows that breeding ourselves into an ethnostate is just naieve at best, its delusional really. Obviously the 'have more white kids' message is boilerplate basic bitch advice and I would be the first to say it, after all, every white boy is a Soldier and every white girl is a Nurse for RAHOWA.  But what of those who do not have the destiny, or luck or happenstance to get a start?

Its not entirely the fault of the modern man who cant find a viable woman, what with hoeflation and women insisting on having a double income family to maintain their career lifestyles in single child families, if they elect to have a father around for their child at all, with two shrews I know having sperm donor kids. The odds of you paying for kids you aren't raising is huge down here in reality.  The MGTOW movement is just guys who were more pragmatic and made the only sane choice. 

The first group of guys who were lucky enough to get a start with kids, the same ones saying they now are doing their part for the race can be judged as delusional, like their kids are a ticket that validates their duty to their race. MGTOW guys judged as being selfish for sacrificing that potential happy family dream for some kind of early retirement plan, or some ego achievement :muh mt everest. That gold standard of having 5 racially educated, healthy white children is not realistic. Not without basically institutional-tier  support, not without having a good start and a large traditional red-pilled family being normal for you. If you're not the son of a F1 racing executive then you will never be a F1 race car driver.  

So build that family if you are able, anon, and the best of luck to you but if women on tinder consider you a sub-8 beta then you may find that contributing to RAHOWA in a comfy way is not possible. That leaves the problem of how to contribute, how to fight the great replacement without a hypergamous,self obsesesed and overweight roastie. 

That would logically place the breeding age female mud, and there are plenty in white cities, in the high value target category. Male muds have relatively nil value to generational demographic change, they are surplus to requirements, especially nigger males who are prolific in fathering kids from multiple nigger females. 

Now we look at Brenton Tarrant and see that he did more for the white race than chad dad. I've seen the memes that cast him as the loser because he chose to kill people and rot in jail rather than pass on his seed, but that misses the entire point.

>cant find a woman to have kids with because of liberated female narrative
>Murder mudskin female 
>Valhalla
>???
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>>1932
Wouldn’t  murdering shitskin females make the shitskin males more likely to date white women? Seems counterproductive to me.
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>>1932
The manosphere is still evolving somewhat. After so many European men graduated from PUA/MGTOW/RP and started naming the root cause of these issues, those who really rule the world and caused all these problems (jews) and got banned for it, there was a vacuum.

But anti-social media kept moving forward and within a few years a body count of 20 by 21 y/o became normal or even considered low. Sugar daddying, Instagram/OnlyFans whoring are socially acceptable. Now marriage is so clearly dead as an institution that even niggers and spics are forced to pay attention as they feel the squeeze too. Since they have the race shield and refuse to name the jew, they were allowed to carry on the torch somewhat. Now we have Andrew Tate and Fit & Fresh becoming extremely popular. Some of them even hint at knowing that the kikes are behind it all but of course won't actually name them because they fear the jew and benefit from the race-mixing part of the jewish agenda.

With the advent of the Internet, our current conditions as a whole are only made possible because of censorship. Without jews clamping down to silence us, our momentum could have easily gotten out of control these past 10 years and destroyed them. 

As long as there is censorship, the current woman problem will only continue to get worse. The only way it can be fixed is to remove censorship and let us address it as societiies. And/or violence. But once that genie is out of the bottle the jew is threatened so they won't let that happen.

Interesting times are ahead for sure. Race war is still on the menu boyos. If fighting age males of any race start popping off for any reason it could easily cause a chain reaction and spiral out of control.
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>>1951
>Wouldn’t  murdering shitskin females make the shitskin males more likely to date white women?
If you don't know how to secure your own women, then don't have a chance in a race war. Barely any White females date shitskins.
>>1953
>Manosphere
Full of deranged faggots who aren't even White. They're not opposed to Jews, but just hate White women who don't want to fuck them, because they're dating someone within their own race. Also the average woman doesn't have a body count you stupid dork, men and women are generally are not having sex at all, but what you say about social media is only half-true, but you exclude the fact that these chicks started off as porn stars and models priorhand and most women aren't on the porn industry at all due to abuse and the fact that they also find it gross. But even amongst OnlyWhores who sell their bodies, most of them are virgins who just show off their clevage or have a boyfriend. The manosphere is what got us idiots like sneako and Andrew Tate, it is nothing, but le beta male politics. Stop shilling this faggy shit.
>>1953
>The manosphere is still evolving somewhat.
The manosphere is kiked and devolving into a deluded mess meant to serve to embarrass right-wing perspective. They're only filled with fags and shit-skins, although it was always like this from its beginning.

>After so many European men graduated from PUA/MGTOW/RP
>calling latinx and niggers European
Anon...I

>Now we have Andrew Tate and Fit & Fresh becoming extremely popular. Some of them even hint at knowing that the kikes are behind it all but of course won't actually name them because they fear the jew and benefit from the race-mixing part of the jewish agenda.
Maybe it's actually because they're both Jewish? Andrew Tate and the entire fagosphere wouldn't be popular if it weren't for the magnitude of money and influence they likely receive from extremely rich and well-connected plutocrats. There is a purpose for his shilling, and it's to get men to lean away from masculinity in its truest form and devolve into a sham version of it. He is a poison who pretends to be an antidote for modern problems. For instance, Tate, like all other e-celebs, advocates that materialism is what makes men happy; the very thing that destroys us is what provides satisfaction and meaning. He then gets exposed for abusing White women and blames all his faults on them, just like incel shitskins do. Tate isn't in fear of the jews, he's embracing the toxic culture they've created and encouraging young lads to do the same. The fagosphere only wants to deconstruct masculinity into something much more effeminate.
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Male muds breeding with white women would be statistically irrelevant, but consider the mindset of a such a woman who would do that: Cultrual marxist given to virtue signalling. Brevik targetted the children of exactly those kinds of women on Utoya island. Okay they were were maily white teenagers so the mother did not breed with a shitskin but within a generation or two they would have eventually mixed with the increasing number of muds imported into the country,or their children will, in large part by the efforts of their white parents. These kids would be very unlikely to reject their upbringing and they slip into the realm of the terror target somewhere above the instinct driven male econoomic migrant shitskin invader. So your point that  reducing the pool of mud females increases the risk of miscegination is a bit ridiculous and misses the point that nothing can be done to reverse the purity spiralling other than on the level of personal satisfaction, and there would be a ranking somerwhere in this hardcore terror calculus. 

The cohort of breeding age female muds is bounded by the ones that are westernized enough to appeal to white males and at the other end the ones that would only breed thru arranged marriage. The unappealing ones tend to have multiple offspring as it is seen to tie the male mud down in the marriage. The attractive mud female or the one brought up amongst whites would have the same tendency to produce the borderline replacement numbers of children in line with the  modern white family.  So you can see the ranking starting to form here.
>>2099 
>Christianity cannot take hold 
Not only is this wrong, it's also ahistorical, we didn't ignore anything, they first attacked through the vector of slaves and women, once they had that ,they converted whole swathes of the elite in every Aryan nation they could get their semitic paws into. Starting with their most hated enemy; Rome. Who thereafter continued the same process of targeting the slaves of powerful men and infecting their wives and women with that poison and from there the Elites in every place they could who then forced it from on high, all for simple greed. Did it happen during a cultural decline in most of these places? No, not for the Anglo-Saxons that was done through subterfuge and outright dishonor on the part of Charlemagne, arguably yes for the Nordics, they were in a slight decline quite directly caused by news of Christian depredations and blasphemy against the gods reaching their ears and the continual efforts to fight against Christians, they still resisted for about 500 years, give or take a century and had never fully converted.
>They don't need to do this. At this point, the vast majority of purchases, big and small, are made through a digital system. This is the norm, and it means that most people would welcome a switch to an all digital currency system, not to mention that ZOGs and Jewish owned businesses could simply force people to pay through a digital medium by refusing to accept cash. They already have all the infrastructure to do it.
 No, they do need to do this, or their false currency will be undermined and a parallel economy pops up right under their noses, and as I addressed elsewhere such a move would undermine US interests at large, they really have fucked themselves into a corner. 
They can try to control the collapse all they wish but they can't actually control it, nor can they control who has what opportunities when it happens, all they can do is try to minimize NS ability to act prior to their loss of control, if they go for the CBDC they won't have any choice but to track down and destroy any remaining physical currency further stretching their resources and pushing the collapse even closer, probably faster then they would otherwise intend. if they didn't do that they would undermine their effort to prop up their digital currency and prevent it's undermining on it's own "soil" and there's more cash sitting around and in use than one might think. If they do use CBDC's they would have to embark on a long campaign that would use too much time and effort just to implement it five or ten years after they start their propaganda campaign. The currency will collapse well before that making the purpose of their fake currency invalid.
>No, they haven't. Unless YOU do something, the world will continue to get browner year by year, and the globe will get smaller, and, eventually, there will be nowhere left to hide for a collapse that will never come, or take real action. The only "collapse" coming our way will be an engineered one, and it will not allow for whites to create independent nations. Self-reflection, then action, or death; Active, self-determining, independent communities, or armchair excelerationism.  These are our only options.
 Accelerationism has never precluded active self-determining communities, the biggest problem for that stratagem is that none, of any size that would actually have an effect, are possible while ZOG still lives. ZOG is pervasive, and so insidious that even just that one race traitor in the family, that one leftist moron in your family, the one who will gladly rat you and your great uncle out for saying nigger that one time, all to virtue signal on the MSM, or even just on the internet to their demented friends, are components of ZOG. 
 Your strategy, just like the rest of the derads is to push our people to go here or there, in the noisiest way possible, while doing nothing to ensure that self-determination of said community is possible, doing nothing to prevent the gradual invasion of niggers spics and other racial undesirables into states that they claim they want to keep White and turn into fanciful republics. All that while while simultaneously haranguing and counter-signalling anyone who takes or even advocates any real action.
 Being perfectly honesty, currently, it is not possible to have a self-determining community without painting a huge target on your back. It's only marginally more possible with an outright criminal organization, which while I have nothing against it as a tool, rarely turns out to actually be useful, and more often than not, turns into just an exercise in greed for those at the top of such organizations. Usually they become an outright detriment to the cause, and even worse,  the communities they claim to stand for.  even presuming these derads will be successful at just community building, any and all attempts at "traditional" communities have to struggle against a set of laws designed to prevent that at every turn, such as in the case with the AFA and other such organizations who have to waste all their effort and much of their money fighting to even repurpose an abandoned church.
 The very laws that lay over our nation prevent the actions you and your kind wish to take, and the government enforces them with aplomb when you step just one iota out of the lines they set much more so when you stupidly blast your intentions all over the country and the internet. That has been demonstrated repeatedly, and often much less well-known or reported on than Ruby Ridge or Waco.
 The strategy of most derads is some flavor of  hide and then infiltrate the power structure, ignoring how impossible that is, because they closed the doors behind them. Even if you manage to hide your beliefs and get some position with power, they will make you do things that violate those same beliefs, pushing you to their side whether you agree or not, it's happened to plenty of people who took some deal or other, or got their little college degree and joined the FBI or the military, maybe 40 years ago, that door was still open, ever so slightly but the actions of Lane, Matthews and their brethren show that wasn't the case even then, and they were taken down by traitors amongst the Christ-niggers they trusted.
 The only way from here is to survive, strike when and how you can to further the collapse of the society we live in, and find brothers as you can along the way, communities make us a target, and it's best for them to be formed spontaneously forged through the fires of struggle in the crumbling ruins, rather than in the pipedream of a continuance of the comfort we have now.
I am surprised nobody here has brought up the Jacksonville shooting
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>>2765
>Fed shoots niggers
That's literally it. It couldn't even be more obvious, because he used an AR-15, the same firearm libshits have been kvetching about.

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>>2765
He killed three niggers and shot himself, good for him, But so far it appears he was just a nigger hater and mentally ill, not NS, as such why would we celebrate him?
>>2767
>Banned for defeatism and cowardice
<banned for not LARPing
You guys are losers. What's even funnier that some of many of your favorite shooters are literal Jews and/or feds. Much of WN and WS circles are filled with mutts, feds and kikes, but that will be a cope you will never accept even if its in front of you.

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So, how do we incite a (strategic) racewar? We know lots of shitskins hate each other, like beaners and porno ricans, how do we make them fight? I want to bash a pajeets face in, personally.
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>>2777
how's the weather over at langley?
>>2777
Is this the idiot I banned for ban evasion and cowardice trying to show how poorly he understands the use of and advocacy for violence? Or is it a fed? you decide!
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I know you're trolling but if you could use the word "cope" correctly, that would be great.
>>2780
I have the following personal rule: If someone is calling for a race war but fails to mention jews as the main target, then they are glowies for sure.
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>>2815
Its a dumb simple question, a cheap troll post. Read Seige.
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Herr Brevik showed us the way with his high score on Utoya. His strategy of targeting the heirs of norway marxism punished the left in a way we have not seen in actions fielded previously. How long until we see the first licks of flame from his incendiary tactic
>2846
The jews have successfully sterilized the internet from any spark of possible hope and belief in action.
The probability of someone answering that we are "feds" or shills for merely discussing the issue will be proof of it.
Any place where such discussion has grown have been systematically erased.
The remaining places such as 4cuck and frenshchan are useless circlejerks to demoralize, monitor and keep in check any possible existing opposition to the ZOG System.
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>>2849
>The jews have successfully sterilized the internet from any spark of possible hope and belief in action.
Their constant efforts to clamp down on it tell me otherwise. And I see more anti-jew rhetoric on normalfag sites than ever before. What are you talking about?
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>>2852
You have to constantly clamp down to maintain censorship, though...
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>>4348
shut up nigger
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>>4348
Seems like this is just a degenerate poser who killed two random roasties.
This has nothing to do with being a Racial Holy Warrior.
Why was Breivik a Freemason? Isn’t that suspicious?
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>>4385
I don't think he was ever actually a freemason he used that claim to force his manifesto into the public eye and throw suspicion on freemasonry, if you have proof he was a member that isn't court transcripts then maybe it would be suspicious.
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>>4389
There’s a photo of him in masonry clothing.
“ According to the Lodge records, Breivik took part in a total of four meetings between his initiation in February 2007 and his exclusion from the order (one each to receive the first, second, and third degrees, and one other meeting” 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
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>>4390
Again, it's very irrelevant seeing as he also posed as a Zionist, it's to put the pressure on them. it's smart play to fool your opponents about your intentions and leave them to in-fight each other and waste their energy instead of focusing on NS.
In the article you posted they also claimed that he had spent the most minimal time he could had in the Lodge.
I don't really give a shit if he is a lizard-man or some Judeo grey alien in human skin, that's a movementarian way to fret. His actions are enough of a reason alone to celebrate as the most racially treasonous, poisonous "people" in his own nation are DEAD, that's what should really matter.
https://archive.ph/iuxJ9%29.
>>4390
He approached koshervative right and masons, never actually joined either of them, he then tricked both by posturing as such with his manifesto and auto-released photos.
The moment all these right wing parties, koshervatives and masons came up to disavow what he did, he was able to put them in the spotlight as the false opposition they are.
Breivik is definitely GOAT, the only thing missing for him to hit the perfection is the lack of a livestream of his action.
Another anti white attack in Europe. In Southport, England, a 17 year old Rwandan killed 3 white girls and injured 10.
It’s so tiring. When will any White man stand up, and do some sort of substantial action, not just random stupid attack against soft targets.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Southport_stabbing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13687949/Teenager-17-arrested-Southport-stabbings-Rwanda.html
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>>4553
Not only you will never do anything yourself, but you also have the nerve to criticize White Warriors because according to you they chose "wrong targets". while all you are able to do is sit on your fat ass surfing the internet.
I cannot fathom how shameless and self-righteous some of you supposed "nat socs" are..
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>>4554
When attacks against soft targets are made, the system will use the strategy of tension to take advantage of the situation to their benefit. This is a fact that we have seen have multiple times over. Also, the years of lead in Italy is another of example, plenty of terrorism but always against civilians, and nothing came out of it, system never came down.
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>>4556
So what?
You are so desperately dependent from the System that you are too afraid to actually have irl impact or support any meaningful, factual and true action against it.
In your complete impotence and cowardice, you completely refuse the harsh reality that others, instead, did. 
Dr Pierce would spit in your coward eyes and the Original Leader is spinning in his metaphorical grave.
Disgusting behavior, look at this faggot >>4555

I am not capable to be a warrior in any shape or form, but at the very least I can recognize someone who at least tries to fight back and I can and will call him a hero against White Genocide.
No one here is asking you to put your life on the line, but ffs you can't even pay credit where credit's due.You make me sick to be honest.
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>>4557
Sure they are brave, I recognize that, but I think we all know that attacking some random synagogue, mosque, blacks doesn’t threaten the system. They instead take advantage of the situation. Breivik did a whole lot better since lots of his targets were the sons/daughters of politicians and etc. Hence why he was a bit disappointed that his bombing didn’t kill more than ≈8 since that is where the party leaders were. Billionaires getting friendly conversations would be nice as well.
>>4553
Fucking nigger kills 3 kids and injures 8 more along with 2 women and they talk about how hardworking his nigger father is in the headline. What a sick joke. His whole family should be removed from the premises.
>>4556
Soft targets work in the same way creating a climate of fear works. Read the Northwest trilogy and The Turner Diaries, and Hunter, you fucking nigger.
Great thread (a rarity) on 4chan talking about use of drones. 
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/476585698
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>>4562
This part about EMP’s is interesting To expand on EMP's, they're basically a flood of free electrons saturating the area. The trouble with using an electromagnetic pulse to shut down electronics is that the damage done by a pulse - overvolting circuits - is intrinsically tied to the surface area of the circuits involved, and the intensity of the pulse drops following the inverse square law (which means very quickly).

For the vast majority of electronics, they are way too fucking small for an EMP, even from a nearby nuke, to cause any voltage issues. It *IS* possible to create a high enough flux with explosives, but the effective distance of the EMP is about the same distance of the explosion destroying stuff (this goes for nukes used in the lower atmosphere too - if you're close enough for your electronics to fry you're close enough the gamma rays, blast wave, or heat killed you anyway). So essentially, you might as well have just blown up the electronics rather than hit it with an EMP.

For nukes, they actually get a stronger EMP effect the higher in the atmosphere they are, because the atmosphere catches more and more of the high energy photons causing electrons to get knocked off their atoms, and sends a cascade of these electrons flying all over the place, which are then further accelerated by earth's magnetic field and hits more atmosphere and knocks out more electrons. It sort of self-perpetuates downward which is why one nuke 100km over the US can cause a measurable EMP across the entire country.

HOWEVER, the actual overvoltage your electronics experiences is commensurate to the surface area exposed to the electron flux. The smaller your shit is, the less it gets fucked up. Unlike in movies and TV shows, the actual danger is to the electric grid and anything like it that's very long and conductive and therefore absorbs a lot of electrons.

Your phone - fine. Car - fine. Computer - fine.
Land lines, grid connection, giant ass radio antenna from uncle bob (CIA) - maybe not fine
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Thoughts on this?
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>>4574
>Shit that will never happen
Who cares?
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>>4574
>Thoughts on this?

I think that I miss 8chan.

>>4576
Scared much, shylock?
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>>4584
>I think that I miss 8chan.
Indeed.
This thread relating to rioting and civil war has useful info.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/477199398
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Debunks all of the retarded shit people say against Tarrant.
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>>4627
It's sad and enraging seeing how the Powers That Be have an iron grip on 4cuck's /pol/ via bots + paid and unpaid shills.
The moment a thread about Tarrant or Breivik is posted there, they will get immediately jumped by bot replies repeating always the same lies and disinfo, with a side of glownigger deradicalization teams and asshurt brownoids.
No wonder they rushed to close 8chan, 16chan and the real based imageboards where they were not able to gather control of the narrative.
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>>4629
It's a shame, every time we migrate our community dies a little bit.

inb4 "only the real ones are left"
yeah, me, a few other terminally online schizos and the resident fed.
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>>4630
Yeah, the shabbos and kikes shitted out dozens of papers about ((( their ))) strategy: infiltrate and take control of a community, ruin it if you can't infiltrate, get it shut down if none of the former worked.
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The Breivik psyop has failed hard.
>inb4 norgays are massive cucks
Yes, they are. Like most Europeans today. But the point remains.
>>4630
I actually came back 
>>4632
None of that works though lmao, none of that is going to get any of us to change our opinions. I swear leftoids and systemniks are literal babybrain idiots.
>>4556
Go to Napoli and criticize the mafia at every bar at 2AM. Go to belee glades and say niggers are stupid gay fucking illiterate monkeys.

You won't? And why is that? Because you're wrong.
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>>11 (OP) 
moar reading
>>9110
More like because cops won't be there in time to protect you and your noisy clap trap.
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Tarrant will be allowed to testify in Coroner inquiry about the Christchurch shooting.
He will appear in some court, don't know when yet and will probably never be filmed for the public, but a judge decided he can and will testify.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/576848/christchurch-mosque-attack-terrorist-can-be-called-as-inquest-witness

Zutt-broken muslim rage ensued, as usual.
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>>11400
Kek why does he need to testify anything? Everything was shown on camera. What an absolute farce. 

I suspect this is probably just some kind of bullying strategy where the roastie coroner zogbot want to attempt to make him cry or something equally petty because there is nothing else they can do. Since they won't be bringing their 51 muslim invaders back to life.
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If all those jews in israel can openly murder muslims and nobody gets punished even by the UN to the point where it's almost banned protesting and criticizing the jews for it besides some mumbling like "golly gee damn that israel, how dare they kill all those muslims!11" there's no reason why should Tarrant be punished for it. 

Actually by that standard tarrant should get freed from prison and be protected by the state since israel murdering well over a million muslims just recently is clearly considered a permitted international activity, since nobody has been arrested or prosecuted for it. Tarrant only killed 51 so he can hardly be considered a criminal for it.
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>>11401
Apparently they are investigating how he obtained the guns (for something like "how can we prevent this from happening again") so the judge decided that hearing directly from him is useful to the inquiry.
Of course the inquiry is a farce, personally I don't give a shit about it unless it's about hearing from Tarrant again.
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>>11403
This is probably about New Zogland going after the people who "gave him" the guns too as if they're somehow responsible, that much is pretty clear reading between the lines. Would really suck for them if those people were tipped off and left new zogland. If I were them I'd be on my way out of there.
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>>11404
This is why learning chemistry, metalworking and engineering is essential for any White revolutionary. They can't take your guns if they don't know you're making them yourself.
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>>11404
>the people who "gave him" the guns 

The pigs who granted him the LOICENSE were just following existing laws and I am sure this is about trying to restrict gun legislation further. 
They can still persecute the friends that acted as referees and the gun club he was part of.
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>>11407
>I am sure this is about trying to restrict gun legislation further. 
Always is. Doesn't matter anyway because "the law" is little more than a pinky promise they never intend to honor.
Shootings are fine, but variety is the spice of life. Why not block all the exits and set fire to a nigger hive, or blowing a mosque or synagogue apart with homemade explosives? Plus, those methods have the advantage that they can be triggered remotely or with a timer, so there's enough of a window to get away and avoid being identified. Poison too, that's a seldom-explored avenue of shitskin removal.
Protip: Most nigger-occupied buildings are massive fire hazards due to lack of maintainance, vandalism, abundance of flammable materials, and general negligence ('CHIRP'). Do what you will with this information.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/mapped-the-worlds-indigenous-peoples/
lol
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>>11527
>no European country is listed
How ((( interesting )))...
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>>11528
>You are the first europeans settling europe since LGM.
>You've stayed in europe for 10s of thousands of years since settling.
>you are not "indigenous".
https://whitepapersinstitute.substack.com/p/the-once-and-future-america
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>>11 (OP) 
WHITE POWERRRRRRRRRR
I wonder what will Breivik do after he get released? (assuming if they let him be)
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>>11658
the only chances for him to be free are

a) an extremely armed and mlitarized group makes a prison break
b) a kind of war or unexpected catastrophic event occurs damaging the prison, so that he can flee or more easily be taken out
c) ZOG falls and he is freed by us, and all the traitors participating in his trial, sentencing and detention get executed.
>>11658
Explain who he worked for?
TARRANT BREAKING NEWS

Brenton Tarrant is expected to give evidence via audio-visual link (AVL) during a forthcoming hearing at the Court of Appeal. The unprecedented move comes as the mass murderer continues his legal challenge against both his convictions and his historic sentence of life imprisonment without parole.

Tarrant, who is serving his sentence in New Zealand’s highest security prison unit, lodged a notice of appeal in November 2022. The primary and highly controversial basis for the appeal is his claim that he only pleaded guilty to the 92 charges—including 51 counts of murder and one charge of terrorism—“under duress of torture” due to his prison conditions.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/580713/christchurch-mosque-terrorist-likely-to-give-evidence-at-court-of-appeal-hearing

https://lionsroar.co.nz/court-of-appeal-shock-mosque-terrorist-expected-to-give-evidence-in-legal-challenge/
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Gotta say I'm disappointed in the NSN cunts. If it were just once then I'd be able to live with it, but they're openly showing off the brown degenerates in their ranks again. Why the fuck are there non-Whites signed up in the White Australia Party? For fuck's sake.
Any other options in Australia? Or are we stuck with this shit until there's a coup in the NSN/WAP?
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>>11756
I've a grievance over the nigger rap. and promotion of sexual degeneracy i've seen from joel.
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>>11756
Who is that?
>>11757
>promotion of sexual degeneracy
Like what?
>>11753
>Charles Manson had his groupies brutally and sadistically murder a pregnant woman for no real reason besides sick kicks
>gets a cushy cell, visitation rights and a million interviews
>Brenton Tarrant is treated like the Man in the Iron Mask, sequestered away from the world, starved, tortured and not allowed to talk to anyone
Really makes you think.
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>>11760
A White Man fighting against his racial enemies is the supreme act of war in a ZOG country, the biggest danger to its existence

>The depravity of this atrocity qualified for designation as the worst possible example of offending. A terrorist mass murder is clearly the sort of offending that should lead to life without parole, the most severe sentence in our justice system.

t. New ZOGland judge

https://thebulletin.net.au/news/5221-no-rehab-and-little-chance-of-appeal-for-the-christchurch-terrorist-jailed-for-life-without-parole
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>>11761
The judicial class has been weaponized against us.
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>>11762
It's good that they still wear such distinctive robes as signs of office. Makes for a more powerful message when they're hanged in public places.
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>>11765
I'm tired of the tough talk. This has never happened in the last 80 years of persecution and I doubt anyone has the balls for it now.
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>>11766
You lack the balls, quit projecting.
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>>11767
Have there been any incidents across the West in the last 15 years where a judge has been killed by a WN guerrilla?
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>>11769
Cute false premise but you can shove it up your ass. The point is, it's doable. If some dumbass guido with a bad back and a plastic gun could do it, anyone can.
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>>11771
The question wasn't if it was possible, the question was if anyone had the balls. So far, no one has killed an anti-White judge for their actions.
>>11760
I'm afraid that Tarrant wasn't that smart, wasn't the source of that incomplete and fishy manifesto, and that the truth about the network that supported him to do what he did would likely disappoint a great number of people in our ranks. Call him a dupe or patsy, whatever. But it's also clear that within a proper combat unit, with a sound doctrine to follow, he would have been a precious asset. The most aggravating aspect of this is how such people are wasted in these truly inoffensive acts of wanton violence that just totally and conveniently miss the target.
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>>11899
Calm down smith, no need to be crying about vi8lence in a society you don't control
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>>11900
Care to elaborate on that silly post of yours?
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>>11901
We've heard all the concern troll shit before smith it's a waste of time for you to be crying about violence in a society you dont control. The enemies of our people must be destroyed. It doesn't matter who what or how.Anyone who takes up arms against our enemies are heroes of our people.
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>>11902
Oh, that's it, "crying about violence."
That's the argument. Because somehow all violence is good and there is no need to discriminate between good and stupid acts. Then go kill some people in a hospital. Blow up bystanders at a folk rally. Crush the skulls of some White babies picked randomly. Why not, moron? After all, ain't all and any violence good?
JUsT bE vIOleNt!!!
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>>11903
Oh great i made you freak out and double down on your stupidity, well done. All the content in your mind is basically silly and crude double standards at this point. 

Go and try to nitpick jews into feeling bad or stupid about all the palestinians they killed. 

They wont shed a tear. There's no remorse. So you won't have any success with that at all obviously and that isn't even exclusive to the jews so who are you even kidding. That stupid little idiotic game of yours is over.
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>>11904
You're just a malding gigafag because of some criticism lifted against a guy who didn't expose the kikes and conveniently acted like the expected terrorist during a large scale international anti-terrorist drill going on at the same time, in the same city. Go cry elsewhere sissy.
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>>11905
Sorry fuckhead we don't live in a world where you can gaslight and concern troll your way around in like this anymore. Cry and squirm more about your dead invaders who ruin our countries somewhere else.
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>>11906
So you are "gaslighted" by inconvenient facts? Poor you. Reall poor poor you.
Meanwhile, some people are actually shooting Hassidic kikes in upside down Straya and for now I'm yet to see if they ever bothered showing their face on a streamed show or even wrote a long manifesto that missed the mark...
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>>11907
Dedication.
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>>11907
>>11908
Not an argument. Your posts were incorrect severely stupid no need to backtrack on them you disingenuous parrot.
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>>11911
>not an argument
It is for anyone with an IQ above room temperature. You're unable to read a simple post of mine properly, even less understand it.
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>>11913
Tarrant and the people like him did the heroic work you should have done by removing those 50 dead muslim terrorist invaders. He protected his country from a lot of crime and rape and saved the local residents a lot of tax money according to statistics while striking and stoking fear and hatred and tension into the invaders.  Since pre crime and thoughtcrimes are something you are familiar with and new zealand agrees to there is no problem with it if we don't engage in your kind of cork sniffing. Objectively speaking. The only difference is that the people, not the evil goverment did it and that always makes the hopeless systemite authoritarians  kvetch.
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>>11915
>he has done this and that
I know the story just as I know how you love to aggrandize it, while being appreciative of your efforts to obfuscate the fact that he didn't name the kikes and how his operation really smells like a shift of focus towards the Muslims and away from the true cause. I won't shed a tear for these roaches though, especially since those numbers were quickly refiled. But don't pretend not understanding what I object to.
Christchurch mosque terrorist set to appear in Court of Appeal

https://archive.is/Cc8kZ

Tarrant is expected to give evidence at a five-day Court of Appeal hearing in an attempt to overturn his convictions and life sentence
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>>12395
How many show trials can a man be subjected to? For fuck's sake.
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>>12400
The point is to backtrack from the previous fake and gay trial and stick to Tarrant's original plan to have a Breivik-style public trial as indicated in his manifesto.
ZOG prison tortured him to avoid such trial to ever take place.
I can only imagine the horrors he had to go though to obtain the current request for an appeal.
Every lowlife brown scumbag deserves his "human rights" respected in prison, but Brenton Tarrant does not according to ZOG.
>>11915
>He protected his country
isn't he an Australian? He's an immigrant who came here and then shot up the place. Not some native idiot.
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Any other imageboards that still allow you to mention support for the saints? Doing so on 4cuck will result in you getting digitally jumped by hoards of derad glowniggers and kikes
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>>12465
Your pilpul is tiresome, rabbi. He stood up for Whites everywhere and mulched up a shitload of invaders and forced the rest to fuck off, which got his message spread far and wide. That's what matters.
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>>13000
Homurachan/homu/ in the webring.
>>13001
>He ruined an entire movement that's all that matters.
You realize as soon as he shot up the place, every single movement that was white nationalist or showed fascist/ultranationalist tendencies like National Front and Dominion Movement. He ruined years of progress. This is why shooter worship is gay. It gives Jews the exact power to prevent any far-right tendencies.
I'll ask you this, would you rather have someone shoot up a place in order to defend Whites, ruining years of progress from other movemnets, and causing them all to be cracked down by ZOG because they now have a valid reason. Or, have no shooter and have the chance for the already existent movements to continue.
Because of what Tarrant has done in New Zealand we now have no far-right groups.
>inb4 Action Zealandia
Practically dead and hidden in obscurity due to the impact of Tarrant's actions, doesn't help they potentially glow to affiliations with 09A. Considering it's the only real far-right group I can think of in my nation it probably does.
Fuck it's actually sad how little groups there are. When I go on a site like pro-white.net I see tons of groups for you Europeans, Americans, and other groups. what do I get for my country? Nothing. The only thing politically I could "support" is NZF and they're kinda zogged in their views from what I've heard.
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*like national front and dominion movement was shut down.
>>13011
>Because of Tarrant there's no more "far right groups" i.e. verminous do-nothing scam artists peddling false hope to desperate White men to bilk them for donation money
I already fully supported Tarrant, you don't have tsell him to me.
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>>13013
Choosing armed conflict before you have organized men to take up such a battle is a quick way to lose. Unless your goal isn't to win but rather to have a cathartic nihilistic loss.
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>>13015
Organized to do what?
>>13015
You can organize like-minded White men under the radar regardless of any jewish crackdowns.
You do not need shitty do-nothing groups to organize, you just need to meet some people who you actually can trust (as in, real friends, not informants from discord)
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>>13017
Exactly! In fact the crackdowns in the aftermath of an action are a feature, not a bug. It forces people to shit or get off the pot, and to pick a side instead of riding the fence and hemming and hawing while the brown hordes are right outside the door howling for blood. It forces self-avowed pro-White activits to get tough and begin the real work or shrink back and expose themselves as wimps, fair weather patriots and weekend warriors. It also forces these supposed "pro-White" "conservative" "far right" "alt right" or whatever the fuck they call themselves, organizations, to put their money where their mouth is. And guess what, every single time one of three things happen:
>They castrate themselves and dilute the message in a pathetic attempt at escaping persecution by the System, revealing themselves to be insincere charlatans more interested in building a donation gravy train and cult of personality than actually standing up for their race.
>They disband and go back to being normalfags.
>They turn state evidence because they were feds all along.

Not one of these sperm-gargling scam artists has ever done anything for their race and they never will, all they do is groom gullible young White men desperate for guidance and acceptance in a hostile world and funnel that youthful rebellious energy into pointless, useless pursuits, feeding them false hope while fleecing them for all they're worth whenever they're not glowniggers looking for the next easy entrapment scheme to advance their career. Not a single one of these preening cocksuckers will ever pick up a rifle and fight, not one of them will ever act when it counts, and all these homosexual histrionics about optics are the smoking gun. As always, it's in the face of adversity that men reveal their true colors, and these faggots' true colors are brown and yellow. Breivik, Tarrant and others like them deserve the credit of exposing these snake oil salesmen. Every violent action is cleaning house.
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>>13000
checked

the ideal place is /cob/ (tor only)
extremely slow place because original 8/pol and neinchan refugees (that were the original users) were all scattered in multiple relocations and persecuted by glowniggers
Anyone know where I can find Bookanon's Tarrant documentary?
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>>13095
I have it saved locally but it's too large to upload here

Discussion about remaining links to his works can be found in this thread on /cob/
http://26yukmkrhmhfg6alc56oexe7bcrokv4rilwpfwgh2u6bsbkddu55h4ad.onion/cob/res/2866.html
(ctrf+f bookanon)
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>>13024
What a pathetic keyboard warrior. You are utterly subhuman lmao
>>13125
What a pathetic keyboard warrior. You are utterly subhuman lmao.
>>13125
>Movementarian cannot refute anything the user was saying, so it resorts to kvetching
You have to go back
>>>/4chan/
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>>13123
Looked through it and it seems every link to the Tarrant documentary was shoah'd. Disturbing how easily zog can scrub something off the internet like this. 
You could try uploading your version using something like dox.abv.bg, or you could split it/compress it and try uploading it here
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>>13123
How large exactly? I know of a site that allows 14 gigabytes if your interested.
>>13134
Sorry for potentially sounding like a newfag but why do people here recommend this service for exactly?
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>>13133
>0 capacity to refute the accusation of being nothing but a keyboard warrior
>immediately redirects to me in an attempt to save face
Why are masonite subhumans always such absolute fucking losers, bros?
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>>13136
>Zero rebuttals aside from insults
Wow, you are really owning me here, you faggot. 
Don't forget to vote harder in the next election
>>13135
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>>13125
>>13136
Look how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've been found out!"
>>13270
Couldn't you compress it using Handbrake, what resolution is it in might I ask?
Though if you don't want to install a program you can compress using xconvert.com they have good features and very generous in maximum size amount.
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Holy fuck, new zealand has to be the weakest army in all of the west, literal third world shitholes has better armies than them. With that rank, it would be easy for a pro-white militia to take over the nation by force.
>>13296
And then what?
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>>13298
hypothetically speaking, the goal would be to get rid of ZOG, install natsoc white ethnostate, kill/deport niggers and muslims and apartheid maoris.

>>13290
upload services on tor? anyone?
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>>13314
>apartheid maoris
Tbh, i think it would be better if we eliminate these subhumans, they’re useless to let them live. But to do that in a way that doesn’t anger “human rights” organisations, I suggest we isolate them in a specific territory, and put some some substance in their water that causes infertility.
All of you are fucking morons because you will have trouble even getting to the ethnostate phase on account of needing to overthrow the national government first. That's an entire campaign right there, and even if you play smart and don't make any big mistakes you will suffer heavy losses, it'll be an uphill battle every step of the way.

More to the point, yes, New Zealand has a truly pathetic military as detailed by >>13296, but all that means is that you're gonna get steamrolled by NZ's neighbors and the rest of NATO. Do you really think they're going to just sit back and let a White revolutionary group take it over and found an ethnostate? No, they're going to send troops to "combat these genocidal White supremacist terrorists". Even if you do manage to take over NZ, what then? Do you expect them to throw their hands up and go home? No, they're going to invade in full force to "restore democracy" and save the poor little jews and shitskins as well as crush your entire movement. It'll be WW2 but even worse. That, asuming China or Russia don't get involved, which will be to your detriment because neither of those powers want a Pro-White ethnostate to rise either. 

Bottom line: Stop daydreaming and start thinking as you should: Like a resistance guerilla fighting a military occupation by a world-spanning power hellbent on our genocide. You have to account for every step of the way and prepare for the worst in advance, form contingencies.
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>>13322
>Like a resistance guerilla fighting a military occupation by a world-spanning power hellbent on our genocide.
So what I'm reading here is we're doomed and resistance doesn't matter lol.
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>>13298
Found these
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>>13296
By the time we can seize NZ we will have solved much bigger problems.
See, if you seize NZ before that time comes, if you throw some forces at that drifting piece of useless land, you will not miraculously become one magnificent super power. You will be stuck on a dinky island, with Australia ready to jump at you and the US of A so eager to flush you into the ocean the next week.
Strategically speaking, NZ isn't even on the map tbf. It's not even a secondary objective. More like a very distant side quest for completionists.
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>>13328
>Strategically speaking, NZ isn't even on the map tbf. It's not even a secondary objective. More like a very distant side quest for completionists.
Well yeah I remember it being a kind of meme/joke that we're often forgotten on maps no shit.
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>>13330
I mean don't be offended, I love kiwis and all that but we gotta stick to reality.
>>13322
If we want to talk realistically and without getting wild in schizophrenia, new zealand do not form any importance for the world to fight for it. It’s an isolated island in the Pacific Ocean, they do not have oil or any important minerals, their only exports is just agricultural products. If it fell to a radical movement (call it a neo-nazi one) nobody’s gonna give a shit, why would the NATO send its troops to fight a NS faction in some islands in the pacific thousands of miles away? there might some statements, some sanctions, but there’s nothing important in that island to fight for it. It’s not like the middle east where they’re the biggest producers of oil and it’s important to keep that region as stable as possible.

Besides of everything, even if zog dared to invade NS new zealand, it’s just gonna be another Afghanistan for them. New Zealand is a mountainous country (especially the southern island where 60% of it is dominated by mountains), if you know the region you are fighting very well zog will be struggling to defeat you.
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>>13333
Ackshually, NZ has ENORMOUS gold reserves. So it's like a treasure trove in the waiting. No reason the seaniggers should put their hands on it.
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>>13328
When will you niggers understand that the US and the nato won’t send its troops to fight any country that falls in the hands of radicals, if that’s so there would have been wars in every continent to fight those “radicals”. Yet, the Americans have been fighting in the taliban 20 years only to gave up and let them rule over Afghanistan. And if you think the jewish lobby would be scared, no they don’t, there only interests is for israel only and they don’t care if some island thousands of miles away fell to a NS militia, can you guys be realistic for once in your life?
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>>13336
Nigga there’s only three main gold fields in NZ, the entire continent of Africa has much more gold than NZ could have.
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>>13337
>When will you niggers understand that the US and the nato won’t send its troops to fight any country that falls in the hands of radicals, if that’s so there would have been wars in every continent to fight those “radicals”. 
Since when those "radicals" were White National Socialists?
>Yet, the Americans have been fighting in the taliban 20 years only to gave up and let them rule over Afghanistan.
I guess you're new to the concept of forever wars never meant to be won. It's only an excuse to deplete American of her White pool and keep the printing going.  Wait, you thought ZOG sent troops over there to capture a dry place full of goat fucking sandniggers? lol
>And if you think the jewish lobby would be scared, no they don’t, there only interests is for israel only and they don’t care if some island thousands of miles away fell to a NS militia, can you guys be realistic for once in your life?
They seemed to be concerned enough to have the US invade a whole continent located on the other side of the ocean.
You behave as if they'd take any chances having a NS country full of armed Whites set up shop close to the US. They didn't even give a chance to the Weavers minding their own business inawoods.
>>13338
Look at you comparing a single island with a whole continent. You must feel very smart now. What next? Saying that Earth has more resources than a small island? Can you be even more stupid than this?
www.yewtube.com/watch?v=JXps6TExiUo
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>>13339
>Since when those "radicals" were White National Socialists?
Does that even matter?
>I guess you're new to the concept of forever wars never meant to be won. It's only an excuse to deplete American of her White pool and keep the printing going.  Wait, you thought ZOG sent troops over there to capture a dry place full of goat fucking sandniggers? lol
Nigga no shit, everyone here knows about this, the point is how to defend yourself very well to the point the enemy will exhaust and give up just like Taliban.
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>>13341
>Does that even matter?
Yes it does, because between Arab warlords and White revolutionaries only one represents an existential threat to world jewry. As for defending it, while it's a sound plan on paper it's not enough, you're gonna need more than that if you want to prevail. Unlike goat-fuckers we don't have the advantage of nigh-inexhaustible numbers, there's very few of us and even less that are in fighting shape, physically or mentally. Furthermore we also lack the advantage of having a general population indoctrinated with a culture that promotes espirit de corps the way Islam does, we're mired in solipsistic hedonistic materialism, and so you're gonna be hard-pressed to mass-recruit from the general population, which is really bad when you need a way to replenish your numbers to shore up your losses (and you WILL suffer huge losses even if you don't majorly fuck up). Thirdly, if you don't have capacity for retaliation you're going to be on the defensive the entire time, and that's a death sentence on a long enough timeline. Bottom line, attrition is gonna be a bitch, it will be a death of a thousand cuts.

TL;DR it's not enough with having defensible terrain, you need more than that to withstand a full-scale offensive by a first world power or a coalition of them. And if you don't have those things, you need to compensate for them somehow, find other ways to tilt the odds in your favor.
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>>13345
>>13323
We're fucked
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>>13346
Try harder, Agent Johnson. Earn your pay.
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>>13347
>Decry every possible action as ineffective
>Someone points out the obvious fact that if you can't commit to an actionable effort, then your cause is doomed
<NUH UH YOU BLACKPILLIN FED
I am unironically beginning to hate White Nationalists for their stupidity.
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>>13348
>Decry every possible action as ineffective
Nice try at putting words in my mouth, Agent Johnson. Care to point out the parts where I said "every possible action" is ineffective and doomed? Textual quotes, please, no quote mining allowed.

>I am unironically beginning to hate White Nationalists for their stupidity.
>their
Oops, looks like you slipped up. Care to post your nose and denounce the Talmud please?
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>>13349
Not a jew, I denounce the Talmud and the Torah and that faggotty wall and whatever else the kiddy-diddling slopehead matzo munchers believe in. 
I am disappointed in the company in which I find myself. The absolute state of this moobment is one of degenerate bucket crabs.
>>13348
>I am unironically beginning to hate White Nationalists for their stupidity.
Who wouldn't when wignats and neetsocs are like this
>>>/b/316156
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>>13351
Those are all your own fabricated posts.
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>>13353
Langley is not sending their best.
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>>13354
Langley the gay fairy is not sending their best.
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>>13355
Is there a difference at this point?
When will you fuckers realize these are all falseflags?
Seems like earlier posts in this thread realized that, like >>702
So why has this changed? These retarded federal faggots are not changing anything, you are all worshipping literal kike assets
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I AM A PROUD ARYAN
I REPRESENT MY GERMANIC HERITAGE IN BLOOD AND SOIL.
I AM READY TO ANNIHILATE THOSE EVIL NIGGERS AND KIKES.
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>>13724
>>13725
looks like the hasbara kikes and their faggot minions are back to business coming here to deploy their prescribed 4troons disinfo/derail/deradicalization talking points.
They should be sent back from where they came from asap
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>>13731
The older posts in this thread agreed that many of these shootings are falseflags, the SUH-AINTS niggers are the newfags
YOU are the newfag
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>>13732
The kikes are panicking because of normgroids noticing their insane behavior.
Many normies are even starting to understand that Hitler was the good guy all along.
The next step terrifies them kikes even more, and that will be when white normies will become aware that there is no political solution and will have to admit that Commander Breivik and Tarrant were right as much as Hitler was.
I'm not sure but I think this guy is snapping.
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>>13751
No idea who this guy is and why you would post it in this thread.
At least give a context
https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=Qo04Lw0OLhU
>MORE
Courtesy of the Jews.

Be racist or die.
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That's the size of it.
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I just wanna say, the shit going down in Northern Ireland is 100% more effective than your one-time faggot shooters
>>14846
No, it's not effective, it's mindless violence driven solely by emotion, it's exactly what we have wanted to happen but this isn't driven by ideology or even nationalism, I doubt it'll accomplish anything of use in the long run.
>>14846
>>14856
All resistance matters.
>>14856
https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=uQn7P0QzoEw
Say that again you fag.
>>14856
At this point I'll take any violence against kikes, migrants, fags, judges, journalists and politicians. It has to start somewhere and grow from there.
>>14846
Yeah man, like the Yellow Vests right? Idiot.

>>14856
This guy is correct. What always happens with these protests is that the government will roll out some concessions, if that, throw the goyim some table scraps and the NPCs will be contented with that thinking that things are finally getting better. they will go home, sit back on the couch in front of the idiot box and guzzle beer and tune out while the kike-owned establishment quietly rolls back whatever concessions it offered under pressure and starts dialing up the temperature one degree at a time to continue boiling the frog. Rinse and repeat until the White race is extinct. Unless it leads to an armed racially motivated uprising, that's the most likely outcome here as well.

The reason for this, and the real tragedy of it all, is that NPCs don't ever seem to understand that this isn't a political slapfight but a total war against an enemy hellbent on our complete extermination.
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>>14885
He is not correct, it's also dishonest pilpul to assume that violently protesting the systems violent brown invading murderers raping and killing White people for being White is "mindless and emotional" it is actally a perfect reason to rebel against the regime.

It is delusional and naive to think that it matters what the system says or does in response to anything, it's irrelevant because they will always be the enemy regardless of what happens, until they cant maintain their power or the facade of power. Only resistance to the end of the evil system and preparedness to violence, which is in self defense matters. 

> NPCs don't ever seem to understand 
They must be taught and reminded that this is the case. I think a lot of normies do indeed know that the system is their permanent enemy. Do everything you can to remind them of that and among other things, voting is simply a silly gameshow where all the electees are compromised by jewish pedophile freaks like epstein.
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>>14890
>I think a lot of normies do indeed know that the system is their permanent enemy
Almost everyone I meet under the age of ~30 is at the 'kill them all and start over' phase of ZOG hatred. That's not an exaggeration.
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>>14891
>kill my imaginary enemy and start over
Wh*te people. Hitler just made a lol joke and everyone went with it. The jews and aryan mysticism are just thinly veiled bullshit. Maybe get a larger IQ cult if you want to actually ever amount to anything which [spoiler]you wont because hapas are superior to whites[/spoiler].
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>>14894
Nice spoiler faggot, go back to cuckchan.
>>1489
>chinks that rampantly cheat on all their tests
>lie cheat and steal
velly soperrorr!
>>14894
"This is not the war to end all wars, it is the war that never ends" 

Life is constant battle against forces against it, It's not about mysticism, it's about genetics and consequences of sequences of DNA. jews also aren't imaginary, if you had god-mode enabled you could one by one clean up the dregs and then work on improving the best we have towards perfection.
A question for biowarfareanon: What about making the opening salvo a pathogen that cripples non-Whites' reproductive ability, and after a while begin implementing the more visible methods of biowarfare you outlined in you posts?
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Going after reproduction seems to me to be far more complicated, as it's something that does indeed require a massive scaled operation to carry out which other anons feared, likely requiring something on the scale of the COVID-19 injections. Anything that would damage fertility requires direct hands-on injections or messing with the water and food supply in an obvious, expensive, and mass-scale level which I wouldn't recommend at all. You can already view it being done to Europeans (and some other racial groups caught in the crossfire) for decades: microplastics in your food, SSRI's and xenoestrogen in the water, introduction of soy in all products which themselves encourage estrogen / destroy testosterone levels, and so on. This requires mega-corporations and governments working in unison to pull off, and I personally dislike this method anyways even if European nationalists were in charge of the West due to the extreme risk of backfiring / general poisoning of the environment. It far too easily falls under the 'all-purpose' dangerous bio-weapon category (which too easily backfire) or it falls into the undeniably complex and expensive category, or both which are both unacceptable.

Secondly, even a 100% success rate still doesn't help all that much. There's the fundamental issue of a sterilized enemy living for another 60-80 years, doing god-knows-what levels of damage.

Thirdly, related to the second issue but still separate, you have some enemies which need to be dealt with right now, no questions asked, even from the most liberal / progressive and ecological mindset imaginable: jeets for example number a bit below 4 billion. Even if they were to die in sixty years, with a perfect success rate in sterilization, it's simply unacceptable to human beings to have them alive for that long, with the damage they will do both physically and digitally in the mean time. Look how Canada was terraformed between the years of 2019 and 2023. Also examine how horribly the Internet itself has been destroyed from their presence since around 2008-2012 when Internet demographics changed.  I can't think of a blacker pill than that, even for the most environmentally-conscious bleeding heart blue-haired Black Lives Matter worshiping tranny. It genuinely is a death sentence for everyone on the planet for a certain number of nons to exist (and we are well past that point), and I say that as objectively as possible despite my intense dislike for them and bias.
>>15734
>>15735
Meant this for you. Captcha isn't letting me delete the old one to fix the reply.
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>>15736
>>15735
As an addendum thought, I suppose someone could utilize radiation or some sort of phase weapons to sterilize from afar, but that'd be beyond me, and it still feels like it'd be absurdly complex, expensive, and likely to backfire.
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>>15735
>it's something that does indeed require a massive scaled operation to carry out which other anons feared, likely requiring something on the scale of the COVID-19 injections. Anything that would damage fertility requires direct hands-on injections or messing with the water and food supply in an obvious, expensive, and mass-scale level which I wouldn't recommend at all. 
Not if you make it transmissible (by say, saliva and other bodily fluids) and make sure that, sterilization aside, there are no obvious symptoms. Sounds terribly complicated to me as a layman of course, but I'm sure someone with the right know-how could pull it off.

>Secondly, even a 100% success rate still doesn't help all that much. There's the fundamental issue of a sterilized enemy living for another 60-80 years, doing god-knows-what levels of damage.
No doubt, but the thing is, the brown races' main advantage and their main danger to us is that they reproduce like the vermin they are and overtake us in the demographic calculus in the long run. Take that advantage away and they fold because they can't do anything for shit. I advocate for seeding the selective sterilizing pathogen in our own countries first, so that the brown horde's advance is slowed then halted, and our demographics and reverse course. After that it's then a matter of kicking them out back to their home countries, with the added benefit that they'll transmit the contagion to their peers in home ground and further cripple them in the long run. Imagine if China had no children at all for, I dunno, a handful of years. It'd fall into ruin, with their aging population. Even India, which has a higher percentage of young men, would fall into disarray if they stopped popping another million jeets each day. The diseases and train accidents alone would wreak havoc with their demographics.

>Thirdly, related to the second issue but still separate, you have some enemies which need to be dealt with right now, no questions asked, even from the most liberal / progressive and ecological mindset imaginable: jeets for example number a bit below 4 billion. Even if they were to die in sixty years, with a perfect success rate in sterilization, it's simply unacceptable to human beings to have them alive for that long, with the damage they will do both physically and digitally in the mean time.
You're also correct, but you're missing the forest for the trees. A transmissible sterilizing pathogen, seeded stealthily and allowed to spread silently, would take years before the demographic decline is noticed, and by then it'll be too late, the damage will be ongoing and catastrophic. More to the point, if we start with our own nations, then the spread and the progressive sterilization of the browns will be further masked and it'll take longer for it to be noticed. That's in the long term. In the short term? It gives us some extra breathing room. Like I said, it slows and then mostly stops the demographic replacement of our people, and allows us to reverse course. Combined with violent racial warfare (plus your other excellent suggestions for biological and ecological warfare) we can not only expel them from our nations, get rid of them, but also cripple their chances of making a comeback and attempting to drown us under a brown deluge once more. I never said this would be a perfect tactic, and you were right to point that out, I'm saying this combined with other stratagems will increase our chances of victory.

>>15737
Radiological weapons are too unwieldy for my taste. Dirty bombs and briefcase nukes and the like might work as area denial but that's too situational for my liking. I don't advise their use except in very specific circumstances.
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>Not if you make it transmissible (by say, saliva and other bodily fluids) and make sure that, sterilization aside, there are no obvious symptoms. Sounds terribly complicated to me as a layman of course, but I'm sure someone with the right know-how could pull it off.
I can't even conceive of a way to do this hypothetically, to be honest. Male birth control is only just now becoming a thing, with only decades of oral and injected anabolic steroids being its precursor as one small example. Doing this on a wide scale, while undetected, seems far more complicated and expensive versus simply killing your enemy with only a fraction of the return of simply killing them when you're on the opposing force which does not have scale and budget.

>>Secondly, even a 100% success rate still doesn't help all that much. There's the fundamental issue of a sterilized enemy living for another 60-80 years, doing god-knows-what levels of damage.
>No doubt, but the thing is, the brown races' main advantage and their main danger to us is that they reproduce like the vermin they are and overtake us in the demographic calculus in the long run. Take that advantage away and they fold because they can't do anything for shit. 
Yes, but simply killing them deprives both reproductive ability and the next 60-80 years of destructive life, which is where I was getting at.
>Imagine if China had no children at all for, I dunno, a handful of years. It'd fall into ruin, with their aging population. Even India, which has a higher percentage of young men, would fall into disarray if they stopped popping another million jeets each day. The diseases and train accidents alone would wreak havoc with their demographics.
China's One Child Policy did not stop them from being an incorrigible nuisance (which is close to your own theoretical scenario), despite it permanently fucking up their demographics, which is where my positions stem from. Applying this to South Asia will have similar results.

>You're also correct, but you're missing the forest for the trees.
I'm not pretending I'm all knowledgeable, and in fact I wish for other anons to surpass me as soon as possible in both conjecture and practical application -- but I will say that death provides sterilization, while under consideration of time constraints. Let's keep in mind formal ethno-fascist states such as israel, which actively sterilized their own minority population (Ethiopian kikes, specifically by means of sterilizing the mothers) with state sanctioned authority, reach, budget, and means (leaning on the greatest military power of all time, the United States), which still had to be careful with sterilizing a minority group and wasn't all that successful with doing so before being detected.
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Mass immigration keeps GDP barely afloat to keep the countries running, even if turning into Brazil. It's a slow boil that guarantees the extermination of Whites through low fertility and replacement migration.
Is it possible to use parasites against our racial enemies?
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>>16242
I mean, if you can spread fleas or something in nigger ghettos, it might have an effect. They live in filth anyway and are affected by fleas anyway, but you can probably increase it by a little bit. 

I once seedbombed a leftist's yard. Various fast growing or obnoxious weeds and vines. 
I cannot say it had much effect if I'm being honest. And with surveillance tech what it is, I shouldn't have done it.
That said, I took all precautions and did it at night, during a rain shower, and wore a mask. Obviously, I was never caught so I guess I did alright. Nothing lost, though nothing really gained.
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It's really good that people are trying to think of creative ways to use lasers to sterilize nogs and spread parasites or kudzu. However, the fact is that if you want to hurt non-Whites, you need to actually help White nationalists take power and get organized. Or just help White people out in general.
If anyone is not working and is the proper disposition to become a teacher, why not enter the education system and utilize your charisma and position to foster pro-White thinking and protect pro-White youth? They really need you because it sucks being driven by righteous indignation yet being totally vulnerable to anti-White freaks.

Imagine how much good you could do just by shielding one pro-White highschooler from the disciplinary regime of the school system. I introduced a kid to The Greatest Story Never Told and he liked it. You can get away with a lot if you're smart, you can save a lot of kids if you're clever, and you can influence many down the right path if you've got rizz. 

>>14885
>What always happens with these protests is that the government will roll out some concessions
That's more than shooting up a Walmart ever achieved.
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>>16244
I'm going to start posting some real material just to fuck with this derad poster lol
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>>16245
If your "real material" doesn't advance White interests, you are a deradicalizer.
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>>16244
I'm not going to donate to your Patreon.
>>16247
Shooting up jewish synagogue daycares and Tel Aviv Wal-Marts is based. It forwards all of our interests. I can give you coordinates for the top elite White Nationalist headquarters where we discuss these things, plus design bombs and explosives before planting them on specific dates, with times and schedules and personnel reports.
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>>16249
It would be based if a Palestinian did it.
>>11 (OP) 
A reminder that, in terms of raw numbers, ethnic jews number at about 16.5 million with an additional 4-5 million goyim converts to the religion. Simply strangling one or a family on vacation in Guana or a third-world shithole is very viable, as the world continues to get browner, poorer, and more corrupt. Hit-and-runs are still effective.

To further simplify logistics, about 4 million are females of childbearing age (or potentially childbearing age), being below the age of 50. By selecting in this manner, in terms of raw damage, even a single Gentile killing a jew each in their lifetime has done crippling amounts of damage to jewry. This is the sort of mathematics that glownigger derads don't like you discussing. Obviously, go after the Zuckerbergs and chief rabbis as priority, but even harm to one in a lifetime is a gift.
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>>16251
In theory.
But the fact is that in the past 10 years, there have only been only 4 meaningful attacks against non-Whites. Dylan Roof, Robert Bowers, James Crusius, and the Tops guy.
Bowers killed just 11 jews. 
Let's imagine that all 4 of them ONLY targeted jews and had identical kill rates. That would be about 50 dead jews.(and the death toll would skew heavily towards old jews past fertility because most synagogue attendees are old)
The jewish birthrate is actually pretty low (though it's actually extremely high in Israel) so this raises the question of the long term plan for the jews. But at a 1.5 birthrate per woman (American stats) jews would see (I'm not making this up) a total of nearly 6 million more jews. 
(5,775,000) 
That is a total per woman meaning per reproductive lifetime of ~30 years.
So our final number is that while White lone wolves can eliminate ~50 generally old jews, jews will experience an extra 2 million new births during this time.

It would thus take about 200 years to reduce the population to only 2 million jews at this pitiful rate.
You can get mad at me if you like, but this is cold, hard math. Rage at me for pointing it out doesn't change how math works.

Wouldn't it have been more radicalizing if these men (especially the younger ones) had devoted their lives towards galvanizing other White men to organize and take control over local political positions? This way we could actually start pushing back against jews in the current year rather than waiting 200 years.
And what if jewish birthrates improve in 50 years? What about Israel? What if Israel starts sending their spawn here to take command over anti-White media corporations?

The only way to eliminate jews is through state level mass executions, hunting them down and killing them a million per year. To achieve this, we need control over a nuclear armed nation and to do that we need armed Revolution.
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>>16254
Another issue: Assuming that AI doesn't become self aware and murders all of us, jews will use AI to enhance their power. So in 200 years, 2 million jews could easily run all corporations using Ai to generate goyslop and AI cops to keep us in line. Furthermore, I think that by 2,226, the White population will be like 10% of the country. At best. 

Do you really think that they won't have moved onto stage 2 White Genocide by then? >>4949
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Christchurch was a fed psyop. There I said.
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>>16256
Despite what I have said of the efficacy of lone wolf shootings against sympathy targets, I don't believe that it was. I can fully understand Tarrant's righteous fury so I believe that there was a justifiable motive for him. Beyond that, I see no evidence that it was a psyop. The dropped magazine, the claim that some sock changed from blue to red, the claim that another man was involved, and the claim that he had exceptionally good accuracy ring hollow. 

Furthermore, half this board wants to shoot up a mosque or at actually; to convince me and others to do it for them. (I won't btw)
Tarrant got tired of people whining about White genocide online and wanted to actually do something about it. I can sympathize strongly. 
One more thing: Did the attack lead to a decline in Muslim immigration to New Zealand? No. Bizarrely, immigration actually increased almost immediately after March 2019. Then it collapsed after COVID, then increased again, and recently it declined for some reason.
https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/net-migration-gain-of-14200/
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>>16257
>I don't believe that it was.
>+ retarded text that I don't give a shit about
It fucking was. A complete ZIonist operation through and thorough.
>literally ran during an international anti-terrorist drill across the entire city that covered the whole week and concluded with the most intense activity on its last day, the same day when the shootings happened
>explosives found in different places
>shills and bad faith anti-shills posting online every where in never seen concentrations before, obviously primed and ready
>live feed let to run despite the platform being surveyed intensively and the operation announced ahead of the assault
>no mention of jews in manifesto
>whines about the senseless WW2 deaths while looking at the graveyard in France yet evades the cause
>a literally who, went to befriend hardcore Muslim Pakistani in terrorist-prone Pakistan, even preyed in a mosque, and went to Israel too
>manifesto written in such a way that it always evades internal incoherence and uncomfy questions
>also written in three different versions of the English language lol
>points out that the real Muslim threat is in racial powderkeg Europe (Germany, France, etc.) but doesn't accelerate anything over there
>instead, shoots quickly replaced shitskins on an island no one gives a shit about unless understood as a Five Eyes' test lab
>immediately exploited by gov for legal updates, as if just waiting for the convenient excuse
>made migrants a protected "minority"
>shooter surrendered to ZOG's dogs (always, even came up with an excuse for this)
>adopted our signs for extra confusion
>usual weird symbolism all over the place
Those who know, know. The others are clueless dumbasses.
>>16254
<actually goyim, it's hopeless
Lol. No, you forgot to mention that kikeland is surrounded by all browner enemies, being replaced demographically by browner populations, and their female population swallowing all the tikkun olam propaganda that they set for their superior European Gentile enemies. There's also the key issue of browns thinking jews are European, so they'll happily rape and eat them as is happening right now. That one kike judge getting raped and killed by a black in the U.S. is one small example of things to come.
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>>16266
The only one who says it is hopeless is you.
I point out that 4 lone wolf attacks every 10 years is not a successful strategy. You are the one saying that there's no other choice.
>Arabs will finish Israel off for us
>No mention of White people 
Why no mention of us? Because you assume that the situation is hopeless?
I keep spelling out for you that the path to exterminating jews is through industrial violence. White people can win. We just need to do what has been proven repeatedly to work.

>>16258
A huge chunk of your "proof" that Tarrant was a fed boils down to 
>I disagree with things he wrote and did

The world is a big place and most people don't share your exact ideological identity. You say things I disagree with too. Does that justify me calling you a fed?
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>>16243
So. What do you think if it’s possible to develop a skin cancer or disease that infects people with melanin skin?
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>>16291
>people
>>16277
>A huge chunk of your "proof" that Tarrant was a fed boils down to 
>huge chunk
You think? Prove it. Make your point clear. Go on, this will certainly be funny to read.
>The world is a big place and most people don't share your exact ideological identity.
Like I give a shit about the world.
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>>16266
>That one kike judge getting raped and killed by a black in the U.S. is one small example of things to come.
Such good news. Hated by Whites and nogs alike and soon nowhere to run.
>>16294
Still incessantly seething about St.Tarrant
bow down nigger you are nothing compared.
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>>16258
derad retard faggot still seething after all the years...

it took normies some tiktok reels about idf doing stuff to brown people to upset so many of those normgroids against the filthy kikes.
can't wait to see the normgroids being bothered by the invaders to tarrantpill themselves even faster

pic related: what normgroids are up to daily nowadays
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>>16298
>six years later, still dodging all points like the typical shills they are
Deal with the arguments honestly, with logic, and refrain from using red herrings, or keep quiet and leave. Calling someone a "derad" just to win the discussion doesn't cut it anymore.
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>>16258
There will be no more intimations declarations or any other kind of bullshit claiming Tarrant was a fed, he was not, the largest motivation he had was to make people among the various Nationalist communities, online most especially, aware that the constant cowardly rhetoric of "hey flee here or there" was just that cowardly rhetoric, and doing so was pointless because even the then constantly talked about White haven of new zealand has terrorists muzzies and racial inferiors everywhere. Second his stated goal was never about killing muzzies or stopping or even slowing the immigration of them to white nations, it was to provoke a reaction about his actions that made shit worse. Third, even if you dislike the method, he still took action, therefore he is a hero of our race and disrespecting him outs you as a traitor.
>>16300
Yes it does derad, get the fuck off my board Precept number 40 rules the day.
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>>16291
I'm not a cancerologist but afaiui, cancer is genetic and not communicable. So you'd need to exploit something in non genetics such as sickle cell and then activate it with a beam weapon or something. 
I'm all for it and any outside of box thinking. My primary critique for bio-weapons anon is simply that I believe that it is prohibitively expensive to run a bio-engineering laboratory.

>>16294
Your point 5 is "how come he didn't mention jews?"
idk, maybe he wasn't JQ'd. Not everyone is.
Point 6 is "I don't like his reasoning surrounding WW2 deaths"
Okay. I mean... okay. Guess he isn't a National Socialist.
Point 7 is "How come he went to israel"
idk. Maybe he was a zionist. Some of our less intelligent "comrades" admire jews because they kill Muslims. Just look at 4chan /pol/. It's filled with idiots who spam "Israelis kill MUZZRATS! Hahahaha. God speed, jews."
Point 8 is "I think his manifesto is poorly written"
Me too. It's also probably too lengthy. Maybe he didn't proofread.
Point 9 is "How come he didn't do it in Germany?"
Maybe he couldn't buy guns in Germany.
Point 10 is "How come he did it in New Zealand?"
Maybe because he lived in Australia.
Point 14 is "How come he surrendered?"
Literally EVERY pro-White shooter in America has surrendered too. Why do they all do this?
You know, this is another reason why I advocate against these idiotic stochastic attacks. They all end with the perpetrators getting lengthy show trials. It's incredibly demoralizing for the rest of us. Does that mean I think they're all feds? No. I think they're just not thinking clearly.
Points 15 and 16 are "I don't like his choices of symbols"
Okay. I mean... okay.
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>Your point 5 is "how come he didn't mention jews?"
>idk, maybe he wasn't JQ'd. Not everyone is.
lol really? Are you really going to peddle the line that he was an extremist version of a Christian Zionist conservative obsessed about Muslims like your random Israeli or FOX News drone? You're giving him the benefit of a naivety that is beyond acceptable. For a guy like him who spent so much time online "searching" for historical Christian vs Muslim battles or invasions cases, who put some runes on his weapons and even had "14" drawn on the rifle and I think he even had "Fourteen Words" written elsewhere? To not even once come across the Jewish Question? You're pulling my leg anon and that's not nice.
See? That's not even coherent. The whole character is incoherence incarnate the moment you start thinking logically and digging into this nonsense.
>Point 6 is "I don't like his reasoning surrounding WW2 deaths"
>Okay. I mean... okay. Guess he isn't a National Socialist.
Nor a member of any other Jew hating group as a matter of fact, otherwise it would have been abundantly clear since he had nothing to lose making such a statement. Exposing or criticizing Jews has been done by so many people who didn't even fall into such a radical state of mind so as to go shooting people. I mean look at it. He's just there, lamenting on the presence of Muslims all over Europe but won't even point out and attack the root cause of this planned racial destruction? Like WTF man? Anyone else doing that would have been called controlled opposition a long time ago. Oh but because Tarrant shot some Muslims then he gets a free pass.
>Point 7 is "How come he went to israel"
>idk. Maybe he was a zionist. Some of our less intelligent "comrades" admire jews because they kill Muslims.
Yeah, "comrades" indeed. At best morons played like a fiddle. What's the difference between them and the hundreds of thousands of huu-rah retards who gladly went to do the Jews' dirty work in the Middle East after 9/11?
>Point 9 is "How come he didn't do it in Germany?"
>Maybe he couldn't buy guns in Germany.
If for a moment you agree that he was radicalized online, then when you want to get your hands on weapons it's relatively easy to do because you will come across people who know how to get their hands on them. They may already have some to spare in fact. It's not without some risks but it's far more doable than most people imagine. You just need not to be an idiot about it. I know people who collect firearms and pump action stuff, semi-autos or even modified full-on autos in the most illegal way, including two who have a fetish for anything WW2 and specifically fatherland related. The borders in Europe are so open that you can go shopping close to the post-war Balkan area for example, fill your trunk (or more secretive parts of your vehicle) with all sorts of nice toys and then go west locked and ready. That's literally the easiest part. Plus you don't even need to do that. You can engage in the fantastic world of home made explosives!
>Point 10 is "How come he did it in New Zealand?"
>Maybe because he lived in Australia.
He supposedly toured the world and spent some serious time in Europe. Should we believe that a very radical, dedicated, zealous White nationalist going to Europe wouldn't even meet local WN people and organizations but solely lived inside his own little mental bubble, when the same guy literally went to Pakistan and spent time over there with the filthy locals whom he befriended and even prayed with at some point? Even that moment in the timelapse is totally insane. I hate the Muslims' presence if not at some time their very existence, so I would never once think about going to Pakistan and spend some time there in the middle of pedo goat herders filling my ears daily with Allah this and Allah that, and I would certainly not even desire in the slightest to befriend a single one of them to the point of doing grouped photo shots with them as if we were the best pals in the world, even less kneel in a mosque for fucks sake.
Riddle me this: He's capable of strongly befriending those backwater Muslims on one hand, but he's not able to rationalize their presence in New Zealand on the other to the point of coldly killing them instead of going for the people who created that situation? That's utterly schizophrenic, totally deranged and extremely illogical.
As for Australia and NZ, they are not the hotbed of anything Muslim related. They're nothingburgers eclipsed by Spain, England, France and Germany, etc. who they get their monthly truck or car ramming and their daily dose of arson, shootings, rapes and stabbings. These Muslim rats are such a protected population that their respective Euro governments leave them alone and double down on excuses just not to look racist, at least as far as the official excuse goes. But these Muslims are extremely sensitive to any kind of offense against their community. France I think really is the place to look into for that, anyone who would have had spent time there with a keen interest on White and migrant relations would know how it's a country living on the brink of civil war. The manifesto definitely highlights how Tarrant paid attention to that country in particular. This works like BLM but for sandniggers: if one of them gets killed you get the equivalent of massive chimpounts all over the country and countless millions worth of damage in the follow up. And before one would say it's a modern phenomenon, I'll tell you that it's nothing new. Even your average American Joe knew of this shit back in 2005 already (picrel). There is no way Tarrant could have been oblivious to that situation and the rewards for shaking up society in Europe would have been a billion times higher than whatever the fuck happened in that kiwi city that's already been brushed under the rug for most of people.
>Literally EVERY pro-White shooter in America has surrendered too. Why do they all do this?
It's the blueprint they have to follow and it sends a very specific subversive message to our people which in my opinion is part of the psyops: those cops have the final word, they represent the legitimate force so even our assigned heroes will surrender to them. Trust the government. Trust ZOG. Cops are on your side. Cue the profusion of cop shows that sell the same message 24/7 on TV. It's a police state model, that's how it works. It's wicked and evil. It's almost like they tell you that you can have your ten minutes of action, shoot your load, then you will calm down, be a good boy and give us back your weapons.
>Points 15 and 16 are "I don't like his choices of symbols"
>Okay. I mean... okay.
It's not just his choice of symbols, it's the stuff around it.
But if we're going to talk about his choices specifically, then why start his video on Schindler's car park? Are we also going to pretend he didn't know anything about the Schindler reference now for someone who made it a holy mission to cram as many *wink wink* refs as possible? So much cohencidence! That's a very loaded reference and it doesn't stand on our side of the struggle at all, no doubt about that. It sends a strong signal that screams: I'm with the Jews. Because that's what Schindler did. He betrayed Germany for the Jews.
So the entire video starts with someone who goes from Schindler to killing Muslims. Fuck me if that doesn't have Zionism written all over it.
When you've reached that point, why just not go to Yad Vashem and shake hands with the locals, and even take pictures with them, right?
Hey at least if he had followed that method, he would have befriended kikes in Israel and then killed them in New Zealand.
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>Literally EVERY pro-White shooter in America has surrendered too. Why do they all do this?
Blowing your brains out like a tranny or getting shot dead by nigger cops is somehow better?
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>>16321
>dying in combat is for fags
>>16258
>>shills and bad faith anti-shills posting online every where in never seen concentrations before, obviously primed and ready
You mean the countless shills crying and shitting their pants over him being a muh fed as they do every time somebody gets off their ass and does something? As well as faggots trying to distance themselves from him out of fear?
>>live feed let to run despite the platform being surveyed intensively and the operation announced ahead of the assault
His stream was removed before he could record the second half of the shooting
>>no mention of jews in manifesto
The manifesto was very obviously toned down, he was trying to appeal to the masses more and radicalize them with beginners redpills. He probably assumed that the average white normie hates muslims more than jews and figured he could start off by focusing on that. Even getting whites to be mildly aware of their replacement is good.
>>a literally who, went to befriend hardcore Muslim Pakistani in terrorist-prone Pakistan, even preyed in a mosque, and went to Israel too
Traveling the world was good optics and he probably figured that it would make the average normie view him as less of a loser and more like themselves. He also probably just wanted to see the world before being locked in a box forever.
>>instead, shoots quickly replaced shitskins on an island no one gives a shit about unless understood as a Five Eyes' test lab
That's odd I'll agree there, he should've picked a different country to do it 
>>immediately exploited by gov for legal updates, as if just waiting for the convenient excuse
That's sort of the point? The more anti-white the government OPENLY becomes, the more people will be FORCED to wake the fuck up and stop ignoring it. 
>>shooter surrendered to ZOG's dogs (always, even came up with an excuse for this)
He gave an exact reason and you call it an excuse because you don't like it? Him blowing his brains out would've sent a much worse message imo

If anything this whole "every single white man who ever went out and killed his enemies is fake and gay" logic is just pure misery porn for whites. If all these pro-whte shooters like Tarrant are feds, then it would imply whites are massive pussies who have done absolutely nothng over the past few decades aside from bitch online and paste up stickers. If all the pro-white shooters who killed their enemies are fake, then the only times whites have done ANYTHING violent in recent times is just them killing other whites during nigger-like freak outs. 

I don't even completely put off the idea that this may be the case, but dear God is that pill demoralizing as fuck to swallow.
>>16317
>the line that he was an extremist version of a Christian Zionist conservative obsessed about Muslims like your random Israeli or FOX News drone?
Why do you think that's impossible?
You know, Breivik is also a zionist. He is literally the single most effective lone wolf in recent history, even more than Tim McVeigh. Yet he was a zionist, not much different than a cuckservative.
>You're pulling my leg anon and that's not nice.
No. I'm not. I'm being sincere with you. People who go shoot up random soft targets are not our best. I can write you a book on why it accomplishes less than nothing.

>What's the difference between them and the hundreds of thousands of huu-rah retards who gladly went to do the Jews' dirty work in the Middle East after 9/11?
I could say that the difference is that the jews want us attacking Muslims in Iran and Syria, not here. However, the fact is that jews don't really give a shit if White men get ourselves arrested after blowing away 30 Muslims or niggers or Chinese in America either. What does that solve? Nothing. It's not the jews who actually run the place so it doesn't matter.
Okay? I agree with the overall position but not your conclusion. 
It is NORMAL and SANE for a White man to become outraged at the greedy scumbags vomiting into our nations and ruining them. He 'should' have gone after a meaningful target or, better yet, joined a White organization and used his energy to actually resist jews where it matters for years and decades rather than wasting his life on one shooting spree. That's what Dr. Pierce said of Bob Matthews too. 
Tarrant could have been leading the organized White resistance against ZOG... of course, he was not JQ'd but you know as well as I do that there are millions of White men who are 14 pilled but not J-aware

>If he was radicalized online, then when you want to get your hands on weapons it's relatively easy to do because you will come across people who know how to get their hands on them.
Firstly, why do we all insist on calling it "radical" to be a nationalist? This is an absolutely minor issue, but jesus guys, there is nothing more normal than White men resisting foreigners. Calling it radical or "extremist" to be a White nationalist is something jews taught us to do.
But that's beside the point. The point is that being "radicalized" online means that you know how to get arms from the black market. I strongly disagree. You say that it's easy to do but I doubt you've ever tried this and you're speaking from theory alone. I don't even disagree but the problem is that human nature is risk averse. ESPECIALLY when you are all alone.
Tarrant was acting entirely alone. When you act alone, you miss out on ideas and information that naturally occur when you brainstorm with others. If he had had a team, someone might have suggested what you just did. Better yet, they'd say, "look man, what's this going to accomplish in the long term?"

>Should we believe that a very radical, dedicated, zealous White nationalist going to Europe wouldn't even meet local WN people and organizations but solely lived inside his own little mental bubble
YES! Look at this board! It's like 4chan: When you suggest actually organizing, the LARPers call you a fed. But when you suggest going out in a stupid shooting spree, people start fantasizing about being Rambo and hitting target after target all on your own.
4chan culture, which sadly permeates all pro-White and "right wing" places, is skiddish around actually making connections in the real world. We're sadly group averse despite being group identitarians. 

>Riddle me this: He's capable of strongly befriending those backwater Muslims on one hand, but he's not able to rationalize their presence in New Zealand on the other to the point of coldly killing them instead of going for the people who created that situation? That's utterly schizophrenic, totally deranged and extremely illogical.
Look at American shooters. They never target anyone important.
Hell, even the Order didn't target people important and they were an actual real insurgent organization. They did target the right kind of jew (they only killed one. 17 people could only kill one fucking radio host jew, what the FUCK) but he was the most irrelevant possible level of media jew you could possibly find.
Lone wolves are not our best thinkers. If they were, they'd recognize that shooting up a mosque wouldn't actually achieve anything. 

> Are we also going to pretend he didn't know anything about the Schindler reference
It's been a while, I don't remember the Schindler reference. Was it a 4chan joke though? He was meming the whole time. It wouldn't surprise me if he said other silly things.

I'm sorry this is so long but my point is that all your points that Tarrant wasn't very informed are correct. But that doesn't mean he was a fed.
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>>16321
Suicide is absolutely the worst option, I agree. Getting martyred, however, is the best option.
Once you're dead, you gain power. Suicide or being dragged through a jewish court system is humiliating.
>>16324
>You know, Breivik is also a zionist
No he wasn't. The manifesto was mostly bullshit for the media, his claimed he was a zionist to pin the blame onto them and conservatives while taking media heat off the anti-jew National Socialists. Didn't work well but oh well. You gotta remember Tarrant and Breivik both cared about optics and crafted a public persona for the media, their manifestos aren't 100% their actual views.
>better yet, joined a White organization
At least he actually fucking did something other than bitch online, kill other whites like 99% of shooters do, or waste his time in a useless sticker fag group. Best option would've been having a white family, but still, he made history and acually  got off his ass, something many will never do.
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>>16326
>He didn't actually mean what he wrote, he was just trying to trick the media
I highly doubt that considering that he also wrote that he wanted to trick the media into going ape shit on guns to trigger a violent revolution in America.

>At least he actually fucking did something other than bitch online
I agree. That's why I defend him against people trying to fedjacket him. 
That said, with his unflinching dedication, he could have joined a "sticker organization" as you call it and led them into becoming a far greater threat to the jews than a lone wolf who kills random Muslims.
The National Socialist Network is a far more serious threat to jews than a loner is. 
Lone wolf shooters are never going to achieve anything long term. Strength comes from unity and organization.
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>>16327
>I highly doubt that considering that he also wrote that he wanted to trick the media into going ape shit on guns to trigger a violent revolution in America.
Wanting them to crack down on guns would have a much different effect than wanting them to crack down on "online hate speech" or the like. Cracking down on guns, especially in America, would piss off more people than just National Socialists especially if done at a very fast and accelerated pace.
>Lone wolf shooters are never going to achieve anything long term. Strength comes from unity and organization.
The average organization nowadays has achieved nothing unfortunately, what the hell did Atomwaffen even achieve again now that it's been dead for years? Or, any of the other groups from this century? Lone wolves, at the very least, display white might, give moralization to those in the worldview, cause destabilization, remove enemies, and make history. I agree it's not the best, but it's the most some can do. Much better than some alternatives (compromising values, suicide, hedonism, etc)
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>>16328
I don't disagree that the average organization achieves little. We need numbers. Most pro-White groups are a dozen fat southerners, unfortunately. Still, even a dozen fat southerners could do more than one isolated loner. 
Patriot Front is just 600 members and actually goes to White areas affected by disasters to distribute aid and support. 

Let's examine each reason why you think lone wolf attacks are good and compare them to a hypothetical where Patriot Front decides to jump the shark and start shooting.
>display white might
600 men could wage a SERIOUS insurgency against ZOG for years. Assuming all of them went to ground, that's 50 to 60 cells who, presumably, got a briefing and may even have the ability to communicate and coordinate targets. Honestly, 600 men could cripple the country.
>give moralization to those in the worldview,
White nationalists delivering aid and support to poor Whites before the government does is more moralizing. White nationalists marching and well dressed and displaying might is far more moralizing.
>cause destabilization
>remove enemies
>make history
Can you imagine the amount of destruction 600 men could cause?

I agree that sperging out on a mosque is better than killing yourself at home. But man, I'd rather have live White nationalists than dead ones, even if they can take out 50 Muslims.
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Benefits of pro-white shooters and violent pro-white groups (like The Order):
>Remove enemies, destroys enemy bloodlines, often destroys enemy communities. This is more true for the more deadly ones like Tarrant and Crusius
>Increases anti-white content in the media and anti-white laws. This is good as it awakens more whites. The more the system goes mask off and shows its true ugly goals (white genocide), the better.
>Exposes the cowards and traitors. All the conservative fools who run away and cry over it are the same ones who would betray their own people if things got to "heated" for their liking
>Moralizing. See Whites actually do shit, when they have a reputation for not doing shit nowadays, is refreshing and shows that we have not completely backed down and cucked ourselves to obedience.
>Eats up system resources and money, especially true if they kill pigs or attempt escapes and force the pigs to start manhunts for them
>Potentially sends a message and radicalizes other whites, Tarrant did this very well
Probably more but these are some that come to mind.

Of course, not every white person should do it, that would be a waste. But it's a good option for whites who don't have much going for them in life but don't want to die pointless deaths or succumb to hedonism. 
>>16329
I don't disagree that violent large groups would be better, but again, we should be thankful that people are trying to do anything at all. Large groups and lone wolves could both have advantages. 

Lone wolves shouldn't be underestimated either. Look how much damage Breivik and Mcveigh did compared to violent groups like The Order? Pro-White serial killers like Joe Franklin and Peter Mangs did a pretty good job at using up system resources and keeping shitskins in fear for awhile as well. 

Basically what I'm saying is, yes ACTIVE organizations are better, but if someone shoots up a bunch of shitskins, I'm not gonna counter-signal them, I'll show nothing but support for them and their sacrifices. 

Although, fuck the shooters who kill random white people like the average school shooter, they get ZERO support from me, they can rot in hell. Anyone encouraging THOSE attacks is most certainly a fed.
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>>16328
>>16329
Just for comparison, the PIRA was about 600 members in the 1990s. They conducted over 500 attacks every single year on average against targets ranging from British soldiers to banks in London. They kept this up for decades. Not even the full 600 was in the field.
Hell, the PIRA actually held physical territory in Northern Ireland and used it as a training ground and safe zone.
Every year, they inflicted hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage against the British government.

Over the past 10 years, there have only been 4 White nationalist related attacks in America. 4.
How much economic damage has this done? Not much.
How many ZOG politicians have been killed? 0
How many rich elites have been killed? 0
Have they made history? Sure they have wikipedia articles and we remember their names. But that's about it.
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>>16330
>The Order
The Order was an attempted organization. They sperged out WAY too fucking early and only removed a single jew. But at least it made the FBI sweat.

>we should be thankful that people are trying to do anything at all.
I am. That is why I defend Tarrant against the fed-jacketers. I have tried to turn Tarrant into a martyr and made many memes to spread his quotes. 

>Look how much damage Breivik and Mcveigh did compared to violent groups like The Order?
Tim is overrated. His actions didn't have much effect. There's more to war than killing. You need to have a goal or it's just useless bodies.
Breivik, on the otherhand, is unique and I have always maintained that he is the single most effective lone wolf in history.
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>>16331
>Over the past 10 years, there have only been 4 White nationalist related attacks in America. 4.
Uh don't know about that. We had 
>Tree of Life Synagogue attack (The jews killed were involved with HIAS)
>Poway synagogue attack
>Buffalo nigger supermarket attack (a nigger pig died in this)
>El Paso spic supermarket attack
>Charleston Afican church attack (a politician and BLM organizer died in this one, the church in general was heavily involved with anti-white BLM shit)
Among many others, I often research them as I want to ensure their names are never forgotten, even if they didn't achieve much. 

>>16332
>Tim is overrated. His actions didn't have much effect. There's more to war than killing. You need to have a goal or it's just useless bodies.
He's a bit questionable, much more than the others, although I still avoid fedjacketing. His goal was to deliver karma for Ruby Ridge and Waco, and I think he did that pretty well. The feds killed the children of civilians, so he made feds lose their children and families. A taste of their own medicine, plus a destroyed glownigger nest.
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>>16333
Sure, John Earnest does technically count as a lone wolf shooter, but his death toll was literally 1 so his KDR is 1:1
The jewish woman he killed was 60. 
This is sadly typical of synagogue shooters. The average age of the slain jews is around 60. Is killing a single 60 year old jew with no influence really worth throwing away the life of a highly motivated 19 year old man? I think that's a terrible trade.

Personally, I believe that revenge is a noble goal. But strategically, the Oklahoma thing didn't lead to any policy changes or real gain for our side (McVeigh was not a National Socialist but that's beside the point)
So what was the point? 

Seriously, let's step back and examine these attacks, especially Tarrant's: What was the point? His goal was armed revolution, not merely whittling away at some immigrants.
To have a violent revolution, you need an army. 
So Tarrant's goal was not to kill 50 Muslims, but to compel or convince White men to get organized. 
No matter how you look at it, White men must get organized. That's the only way we can do what we say we want to do.
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>>16334
>Sure, John Earnest does technically count as a lone wolf shooter, but his death toll was literally 1 so his KDR is 1:1
The anti-white attention from the media that these attacks bring is the best part. 

Right now especially, many whites think the system is on their side again, because daddy zion donald is back and he's deporting some mexican. They can't realize he's controlled by jews, they think they can vote their way out still. They must realize the system wants them dead. Lone wolves make the media and government more rabidly anti-white and increase the general annoyance whites will have with the system in general. 

Although I agree Earnest shouldn't have done it himself, he had a good mind and life, these things should be left for people with nothing to lose.

>Personally, I believe that revenge is a noble goal. But strategically, the Oklahoma thing didn't lead to any policy changes or real gain for our side (McVeigh was not a National Socialist but that's beside the point)
The crackdowns/media attention were good, and the financial damage it caused the system/government was likely very fucking good considering he destroyed the building and killing over 100 people inside. 
>No matter how you look at it, White men must get organized. That's the only way we can do what we say we want to do.
And Whites won't get organized until they are essentially forced. Things are still too comfortable for that, at the most they'll join a completely non-violent group that achieves nothing. We need to make the overall living quality worse, and make the anti-white nature of the government worse, for whites to be angry enough to actually form militant organizations.
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>You mean the countless shills crying and shitting their pants over him being a muh fed as they do every time somebody gets off their ass and does something?
<why don't you do something?
I have no interest in false dilemmas. And reducing this to "fed" is stupid.
>As well as faggots trying to distance themselves from him out of fear?
What is there to fear? I do not know whom you're talking about. Any idea?
>His stream was removed before he could record the second half of the shooting
The video lasted more than a full quarter of an hour. He did everything to be sure it would be seen beforehand, warning the authorities, even explaining what his targets were, what he was about to do, and he posted profusely on Facebook some calls to violence and other pieces of racist content, although none I could find that contained any vaguely antisemitic signal. Which again mirrors the manifesto.
As we know, the anti-terrorist drills going on in Christchurch that day were the perfect confusion that would be used to lead the local police forces astray, preventing them from intervening faster. Something similar happened on 9/11.
If he had not fidgeted about the first mosque then the second phase with its "bonus objective" would have probably been captured live too.
>The manifesto was very obviously toned down
So you've seen the original version?
>he was trying to appeal to the masses more and radicalize them with beginners redpills. He probably assumed that the average white normie hates muslims more than jews and figured he could start off by focusing on that. Even getting whites to be mildly aware of their replacement is good.
<Imagine giving up your life without exposing the Jews.
People don't need a gay manifesto to open their eyes in Europe: they already had all the shocking news they needed way before 2019. I can tell you that this event changed nothing at all since Europeans had already gone through much worse already. TV news radicalized them.
You speak of the masses. As if the masses would even care about the manifesto. I bet most people don't even know it existed, if they even remember much of the event itself. A manifesto shall contain your honest and final view on a given topic. Not that I believe he wrote it, I think it's a collaborative effort and he even may have been handed the file to be quite honest. Besides normies being told to focus on Muslims without paying attention to the Jews is exactly what all Zionist right wing parties have been doing, Christian or not, not even the far right ones. IOW he was not providing anything substantially newer than the usual myopic propaganda we already were served, with the usual split between moderates being OK and extremists being bad.
>Traveling the world was good optics and he probably figured that it would make the average normie view him as less of a loser and more like themselves. He also probably just wanted to see the world before being locked in a box forever.
;_;
I guess that's why he said that he will face Antifa/Marxists/Communists in the streets. Maybe in VR since he surely did everything he could to get jailed instead. 
>That's sort of the point? The more anti-white the government OPENLY becomes, the more people will be FORCED to wake the fuck up and stop ignoring it.
Concerns NZ only. Which is such a poor target that only makes sense because it's obvious that doing what he did in NZ would just serve a certain agenda because this place is just not like Europe. The same shit done in Europe would have had far more chances of snowballing, triggering a racial chaos and definitely ruining the Jews' plans for Europe, which would not be possible if the rahowa was already on its seventh year. It would have spared us the Covid terror scam too. Convenient eh?
>He gave an exact reason and you call it an excuse because you don't like it?
I don't like it because according to this comfy excuse that is faggy af, he doesn't see the white-exterminating state's cops as his enemies, so it just plays out according to the same pattern seen for other shooters. Yet if he were truly fighting a racial war, then these blue pigs were standing in his way and preventing him from achieving his goals. That too makes no sense. If I had my blood pumped up after rampaging through a mosque, I'd show those cops no pity either. These are the same people who have faggot cops in pride marches and who come knocking on your door to arrest you for saying nasty things online that Jews don't like. Fuck them.
>Him blowing his brains out would've sent a much worse message imo
I never said that he should have. But I'm sure surrendering to cops as soon as they show up is a much better example, amirite??
That's exactly what we shall say to our fighters in the future, that surrendering to cops is the right and noble thing once SHTF lol.
>If anything this whole "every single white man who ever went out and killed his enemies is fake and gay" logic is just pure misery porn for whites.
Lucky me that I didn't say every single white man who ever went out and killed his enemies is fake and gay.
I merely have an issue with those who look like puppets for dissonant interests that don't so much line up with ours.
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>>16324
I'm going to start with this first.
>I'm sorry this is so long but my point is that all your points that Tarrant wasn't very informed are correct. But that doesn't mean he was a fed.
There are various possibilities. One being that he has been manipulated, which is an option I do acknowledge.
Another one being that he was very well aware of what he was doing, what was expected of him, and this will remain hidden for a long time because he knows he cannot speak about it. We simply do not know who he really was. He visited something like seventy-eight countries within less than four years, and a big amount of them being Muslim ones. Officially, he was already supportive of Australian far-right groups as far back as 2015-2016. The more political pictures he posted on Facebook show that he certainly was very aware of the European situation. Uneducated is definitely not what I'd call him.
So with that said I shall answer the other questions.
>Why do you think that's impossible?
It may very well be possible that he was a radicalized Christian Zionist. These people are supporters of Israel and haters of Muslim so it fits, but then that hardly makes him the heroic lone wolf some people want to believe he was.
>Breivik
Not going there, sorry.
>I could say that the difference is that the jews want us attacking Muslims in Iran and Syria, not here.
Sure, not officially. But if it can forward their plans domestically I don't see any reason why they'd refrain from using such dirty tricks.
> It's not the jews who actually run the place so it doesn't matter.
I suppose you meant that it's them who do run the place already. We have some rabbis who are recorded on tape saying how they want to see Whites and Muslims kill each other in the most futile way.
>It is NORMAL and SANE for a White man to become outraged at the greedy scumbags vomiting into our nations and ruining them. He 'should' have gone after a meaningful target or, better yet, joined a White organization and used his energy to actually resist jews where it matters for years and decades rather than wasting his life on one shooting spree.
If he had the choice. Imagine for one moment that he was some kind of spy and then got blackmailed with very convincing threats of torture on him or his family. Again I simply point out the blatant Zionist veneer of the NZ shootings and all the inconsistencies and conveniently memory holed aspects that you simply don't find in events that don't have "false flag" written all over them.
>That's what Dr. Pierce said of Bob Matthews too.
Okay but I have literally zero issues with Matthews' motives. He didn't write much but what he wrote was straight to the point and his speech is just as clear. You don't have that nagging feeling of someone playing with you, holding back some information, hiding elements, sowing confusion, trying to lead you down some fruitless path by the pull of some unfelt leash while so conveniently avoiding facing the Jew or Israel for example.
>Tarrant could have been leading the organized White resistance against ZOG... of course, he was not JQ'd but you know as well as I do that there are millions of White men who are 14 pilled but not J-aware
No, frankly I don't know such people. But I do know a lot of people standing in various positions on the awareness spectrum who already badmouth Jews without once having come close to reading the Fourteen Words, anything form mild racists to would-be oven managers.
For now these Words remain like a niche knowledge, a grail of some kind in the deepest reaches of our communities. Memes help a bit but they are yet to hit the recognition they deserve in full.
>Firstly, why do we all insist on calling it "radical" to be a nationalist? This is an absolutely minor issue, but jesus guys, there is nothing more normal than White men resisting foreigners. Calling it radical or "extremist" to be a White nationalist is something jews taught us to do.
Radical in that he took weapons and went shooting, in the current age. This will quickly become the norm.
>The point is that being "radicalized" online means that you know how to get arms from the black market. I strongly disagree. You say that it's easy to do but I doubt you've ever tried this and you're speaking from theory alone. 
Anon, that's a very sour pill you've swallowed here. I won't say more but trust me when I saw that with the right people and with enough IQ points, and money of course but you obviously know this, it's in fact the main barrier, you can get your hands on really good stuff. The other funny opportunity few people think of is that there are old people in the country side who have had old weapons for ages but who don't use them, either because they can't, don't want to or don't have any interest in them, and while I'd prefer they'd be able to use them just in case, they're easily parted with their guns when given a fair amount of money. Now most of the stuff you can get that way is not so impressive, sometimes hunting gear for small game that you could legally acquire so it's just better to let them keep it while trying to teach them how to use it or convince them to do so (you don't have this issue in the US or even in NZ), but sometimes there are good surprises.
>I don't even disagree but the problem is that human nature is risk averse. ESPECIALLY when you are all alone.
That's the problem but I think it's obvious that you won't be able to do anything alone, and Tarrant certainly wasn't a recluse, he had an online presence, he communicated. These days you're generally alone because you truly want to and you're not making the effort to meet people.
>Tarrant was acting entirely alone.
I don't think so but even if this were true it would only be because he decided so. We don't have to be alone.
>When you act alone, you miss out on ideas and information that naturally occur when you brainstorm with others. If he had had a team, someone might have suggested what you just did. Better yet, they'd say, "look man, what's this going to accomplish in the long term?"
That's giving credit to the lone wolf theory which I don't agree on.
>YES! Look at this board! It's like 4chan: When you suggest actually organizing, the LARPers call you a fed.
Before trying to organize anything, people should at least join organizations that already exist, even if it's a superficial entry, just to see how they work and what goes on inside. Socialize for fuck's sake. Tarrant was not showing signs of wanting to be a loner either. You see that he's not alone on some of his pictures, he was White friends, he was vocal and supportive of Cottrell's organization and other ones.
Just think about it. If your goal is to share your revolutionary ideas, isn't the best way to do this to sow them in an already fertile soil with some real potential?
>But when you suggest going out in a stupid shooting spree, people start fantasizing about being Rambo and hitting target after target all on your own.
But that's part of the appeal, isn't it? It's as you said a fantasy that can become true.
>4chan culture, which sadly permeates all pro-White and "right wing" places, is skiddish around actually making connections in the real world. We're sadly group averse despite being group identitarians. 
Online venting on either 4chan or X or Telegram anywhere else is futile. This "virtuality" is one kind of a trap.
>Look at American shooters. They never target anyone important.
They're all deranged as far as I'm concerned, and were likely manipulated to some extent.
>Hell, even the Order didn't target people important and they were an actual real insurgent organization.
They targeted no one as a matter of fact. Their goal was to steel money and later gather funds with counterfeiting it as quickly as possible.
Berg, I don't think anyone in the Order gave the order to kill him even if he had certainly pissed off many members. But he was an obnoxious Jewish radio host who bragged about the White extinction in various ways. He was just a snack at best, but his murder would make sense in light of who he was and what he said. It's still logical.
But Tarrant's pattern is a whole different thing and I think another example will make this point clear.
Say you hate Jews. I mean, you really dislike them and you call for war and reference the Romans doing stuff, Spain, pogroms, the expulsions, Weimar, etc. All your memes are about these parasites.
Now, would you go to Israel, befriend rabbis and kibbutzim farmers, touch the wall, go meditate at Yad Vashem, praise the beauty of their land and culture, and even go pray in a synagogue and share pictures online of these truly wonderful moments?
Be honest please and tell me what what would you do here.
Last but not least. Would you then get back home five months later and do the most logical thing to do, of course, which for a Zionist shill is to kill fifty random kikes in two synagogues?
How is that logical again? There's no logic there. None.
>It's been a while, I don't remember the Schindler reference. Was it a 4chan joke though? He was meming the whole time. It wouldn't surprise me if he said other silly things.
No, it's about the real life event relating to WW2, the Germans, Jews and the Third Reich. See spoilered pics in >>16258
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Guys, the New IRA seems to want to "do things" about migrants and possibly traitors even. Maybe we should actually pay attention and take some notes?
>>16333
WTC7 was a "glownigger nest" of its kind too. It didn't hurt ZOG one bit losing it.
Then again isolated actions that cannot be replicated as a part of an active war effort mean nothing.
>>16335
>these things should be left for people with nothing to lose.
There is a major problem with this: People with nothing to lose tend to be desperate. Desperate people tend to make clumsy decisions and select abysmal targets. 

Anon, if White people will not join a non-violent group, they sure the fuck won't join a violent group. The risks associated with rebellion are severe. 
Furthermore, violent groups will only arise once peaceful groups are suppressed.
>>16347
>It may very well be possible that he was a radicalized Christian Zionist
Unfortunately, that may be the case. Actually, maybe I shouldn't be sad that one of them sacrificed his freedom to kill 50 Muslims. 

>all the inconsistencies and conveniently memory holed aspects that you simply don't find in events that don't have "false flag" written all over them.
To what end? What did this accomplish for the regime? Making us look bad? I mean, I guess but we're already "Nazis" and the regime doesn't need an excuse to monitor us. Was it shutting down 8chan? That's the only long term result of this.
You know, maybe Tarrant was just a 4channer. In any population, there's bound to be spergs. If 1% of 4chan /pol/ posters sperged out and wrote manifestos, do you think they'd be a coherent ideology? 
Two of them would be Christian Zionists ranting about Muslims. One would be an anti-Slav neo-Nazi posting pages of byzantine proof that Slavs are subhuman. One would just write "TND TND TND" and shoot up a basketball court (that actually would be not such a bad idea, not that I'm advocating). Two or three would write about flat earth. Another two would actually target White women. Maybe one would go after the jews. 

>Tarrant certainly wasn't a recluse, he had an online presenc
That doesn't mean anything. Online "friends" aren't real. 

>he's not alone on some of his pictures, he was White friends, he was vocal and supportive of Cottrell's organization and other ones.
Okay, fine. But maybe he didn't trust them to help him. 

> If your goal is to share your revolutionary ideas, isn't the best way to do this to sow them in an already fertile soil with some real potential?
Friend, we agree. 
But Tarrant didn't see it that way. 

> would you go to Israel, befriend rabbis and kibbutzim farmers, touch the wall, go meditate at Yad Vashem, praise the beauty of their land and culture, and even go pray in a synagogue and share pictures online of these truly wonderful moments?
>How is that logical again?
Firstly, I don't believe that there's any photos of him touching the Wall.
Secondly, I already admit that he was a zionist. 
That doesn't mean he was a fed, it just means that he was ill informed. Like most 4channers.
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>>16353
How was it useful? I suppose you already heard about how the "elites" want to make New Zealand an island of theirs. There was something odd that happened before the shooting and I don't remember how exactly it tied with the attack on the mosque, but there was something related to a police database that had been hacked and some Israeli related to this. I can't remember how that worked out so I'll return to it only if I can find something to refresh my memory.
The other obvious gain was the strong legislation changes brought to gun ownership. New Zealand had rather lax laws and a high gun ownership rate per inhabitant. The population is low enough that it combines the advantage of a city and a nation, all in one. So in a way it's rather interesting for ZOG to see what can be pulled off in a petri dish which is not too dissimilar to the US. Almost like a simulation. ZOG also flexed a lot regarding individual liberties, specifically about owning the shooting's recorded video and the manifesto.
https://www.firearmssafetyauthority.govt.nz/news-and-publications/firearms-law-changes/2019-firearms-law-changes
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/new-zealand-to-ban-military-style-guns-after-mosque-attacks
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47648549
And still tightening the laws in 2026:
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/better-firearm-laws-locked-and-loaded
The government begun a buy-back program for six months to collect as many weapons as possible during the height of the emotional roller coaster, with a possibility to recover up to 95% of a now illegal weapon's or equipment's cost. I need not explain what the state was blaring all day long regarding those evil threatening weapons and how a civilized society must learn to exist and survive without them.
Despite still being largely White and well armed, the population was shocked into accepting those laws. Who would have objected to this at the peak of this moral outrage? Who would dear after seeing the faces of all those cockro... gentle Muslims who had been unalived?
That Amnesty Buy-Back program has some results and got maintained up to 2021.
https://www.police.govt.nz/about-us/publication/firearms-amnesty-and-buy-back-performance-data
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/21/790466492/new-zealanders-hand-in-more-than-50-000-weapons-as-the-countrys-buyback-program-
>Since the buyback began in July, more than 56,000 banned firearms and nearly 200,000 illegal gun parts were collected at hundreds of collection points around the country, according to New Zealand police data.
Results at the end of the 2019 batch that got updated in February on next year, and for the 2021 session:
https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/publications/firearms-amnesty-buy-back-national-overview-21dec2019.pdf
https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/publications/firearms-amnesty-buy-back-national-overview.pdf
https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/publications/firearms-amnesty-buy-back-national-overview-21july2021.pdf
2021 was far less intense.
Luckily it seems the program wasn't as successful as the government wanted it to be.
The shooting also warranted the creation of a firearm registry.
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/13/760460922/new-zealand-moves-to-create-firearm-registry-and-stiffen-penalties-for-gun-crime
Amazing what you can do regarding a population's right to bear arms once you have the moral upper hand to explain to every single individual that owning now banned weapons means you're a nasty piece of terrorist shit and, my god, you certainly don't want to be one of them, do you?
Further reforms tightened the freedom of speech, even for journalists.
https://www.justice.govt.nz/about/news-and-media/media-centre/media-information/media-guide-for-reporting-the-courts-and-tribunals-edition-4-1/media-in-court/4-10-reporting-restrictions/
IOW, the shooting could be seen as one big legal lube.
I note that there's a census every five years. In 2018 the population was 4.7 million. It was estimated at 4.97 million in 2019. Pretty sure most of the increase was from migrants. The net gain from births against deaths is roughly 25000.
https://figure.nz/chart/2IHZyVDwywc2c2zo-2bCecm6ib4pEv77V
https://figure.nz/chart/1WdlzLBou0RzmBrp-iPkoB2oBRqtLT8qU
So in 2019 you got -51 migrants on one hand and at least about +245,000 on the other, pure offshore arrival and quite a peak at that.
Just for mathematics, you'd need about 4804 Tarrants to soak up that net migrant intake alone. Yeah, I just invented a new measurement unit and I'm the most critical person about him on this board. It also shows you how literally futile this has been on demographics.
Just to wrap this up, the government jumped on the occasion to push for more legal tolerance:
https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/about-us/mfat-annual-reports/mfat-annual-report-2018-19/case-study-new-zealands-international-human-rights-action-plan-2019-2023
https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/about-us/mfat-annual-reports/mfat-annual-report-2018-19/case-study-response-to-christchurch-terror-attack-and-the-christchurch-call
>The ‘Christchurch Call to Action to eliminate terrorist and violent extremist content online’ was adopted in Paris on 15 May 2019.
>Our partnership with co-host France was critical to the success of the Christchurch Call, which was supported by 17 countries plus the European Commission and eight tech companies. It secured commitments to action from both supporting countries and, critically, all major social media and tech companies. Ministry officials, with the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, are continuing to engage with company and country supporters to progress the commitments made under the ‘Call’, with an eye to reporting on progress during Leaders’ Week at the UN General Assembly in late September 2019.
Nice. I guess you didn't see that one coming.

Second part coming...
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>>16353
>You know, maybe Tarrant was just a 4channer. In any population, there's bound to be spergs. If 1% of 4chan /pol/ posters sperged out and wrote manifestos, do you think they'd be a coherent ideology? 
That would imply a collaborative effort. So are you saying he's not a lone guy anymore now? I'm not sure I follow you.
>That doesn't mean anything. Online "friends" aren't real.
Until you meet them and on that we simply don't really know what went on, but that's a fair point. Nevertheless he was a gym trainer and ran some classes that counted up to twenty people at a time. While his personna shifted as he drew closer to the attack, we know he had made some friends at the shooting club who more or less shared the same political opinions and references regarding shootings. He became a sort of recluse to the people who lived next door who said he didn't have many visits but that doesn't mean none. Never mind let's move on.
>Firstly, I don't believe that there's any photos of him touching the Wall.
I see the confusion here. We know he went to Israel but I'm asking about you. Would you do the whole Israel trip of awesome friendship if you disliked Jews to the point of being ready to plan shooting up some synagogues?
>Secondly, I already admit that he was a zionist.
Incidentally he was raised a Catholic.

Well, since this second part turns out to be much shorter than the first one I'll talk about another thing I remembered that I found odd.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-30/tarrant-facebook-page-mosque-image/10950324
>The ABC has recovered an image of the Noor mosque in Christchurch, uploaded at approximately 8:00am on March 13, from a partial cache of Brenton Tarrant's Facebook page.
>The alleged Christchurch shooter's social media accounts were deleted shortly after the March 15 attack which killed 50 people.
>Tarrant included the image of the Noor mosque in Christchurch, where most of the victims died, in a crude collage.
>The mosque is seen superimposed on the face of a person being held in a chokehold by a much larger and stronger person who has been given the face of a medieval knight.
That's for the context. Here's the kicker.
>Tarrant also posted two other versions of the collage showing the knight holding the Shiite Muslim religious icon Imam Ali and a woman in the Islamic headdress, the niqab.
Shiite Muslims hardly participate to the invasion of our lands. In comparison to the Sunnite ones and the more radical stems, the Shiite keep it to themselves. What they are though is a majority, that is, the majority of the Muslim population living in Iran, the country that Israel seethes about since forever.
>>16340
>I have no interest in false dilemmas
What false dilemma? That's exactly what happened. The internet was almost instantly, at an unaturally fast pace, filled with denouncement of his actions and retarded conspiracy theories of the entire thing being fake/a psyop.
>So you've seen the original version?
It's very obvious if you even just read it, half of it is jokes and toned-down talking points. If I recall, doesn't he go as far as to say he doesn't even hate all muslims, despite killing 50 of them?
>People don't need a gay manifesto to open their eyes in Europe: they already had all the shocking news they needed way before 2019. I can tell you that this event changed nothing at all since Europeans had already gone through much worse already.
No shit, nothing actually seems to radicalize them considering they are still doing nothing aside from accepting their own replacement and death. Regardless, Tarrant probably felt hopeful that he could awaken some, even if just on a small level. That's likely why he livestreamed it, to try and awaken the fighting spirit of whites, which has been utterly raped out of them by kikes nowadays. 
>I guess that's why he said that he will face Antifa/Marxists/Communists in the streets. 
What does that have to do with anything? 
>Concerns NZ only. Which is such a poor target that only makes sense because it's obvious that doing what he did in NZ would just serve a certain agenda because this place is just not like Europe. The same shit done in Europe would have had far more chances of snowballing, triggering a racial chaos and definitely ruining the Jews' plans for Europe, which would not be possible if the rahowa was already on its seventh year. It would have spared us the Covid terror scam too. Convenient eh?
I've already agreed that his location choice was utterly retarded, but I don't think it makes him a fed, maybe he just wasn't extremely smart or had his own retarded reasoning for it that sounded good in his head.
>I don't like it because according to this comfy excuse that is faggy af, he doesn't see the white-exterminating state's cops as his enemies,
I agree, but he probably thought he could spread his message more by living to see court, as did Breivik. People would keep him in mind more if he was alive, if he was dead the case would be buried quicker, him being alive forces him back into the minds of people with trials and the like, which then further exposes his ideas to people. He also may have genuinely believed that he would be let free in a race war, but I don't think he still thinks that considering it's been 7 years and whites still haven't done shit. 
>Lucky me that I didn't say every single white man who ever went out and killed his enemies is fake and gay.
You certainly implied it, at least for the ones from recent decades, which are the ones that currently matter. The vast majority surrended, so they must be puppets, right?
Also, about his hatred of jews, and his manifesto being toned down:
>Where he claimed he was not driven by antisemitism, we found hatred and conspiratorial distrust of Jews were central to his entire worldview.
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/02/tarrants_online_footprint.html

Don't have all the images, but I know they exist because I've seen them. Seems Tarrant's public persona of a Christian zionist is much different from his real views.
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>This attack was used to pressure dumb New Zealanders to hand over their guns.
Look, I admit that this isn't a great outcome. This will make White insurgency in New Zealand very difficult. 
However, firstly this doesn't mean that he was a fed. The regime uses crises as a tool.
But more importantly, I don't believe that this is a strategic loss for us. You said yourself that New Zealand is mostly irrelevant. What matters now is America and Ireland. The latter being the place where White men are most resisting and the former the place where White men really ought to learn from Ireland.
Besides, if we get to stage 2 and need to move onto armed resistance in New Zealand, guns can be acquired. Ireland is an island too and they had no difficulty in importing arms. 

>So are you saying he's not a lone guy anymore now? I'm not sure I follow you.
I'm saying that your quibbles on his non-alignment with your ideology is not proof that he's a fed. 90% of 4channers don't agree with you or me on fundamental ideological positions. He is just one of them.

>Would you do the whole Israel trip of awesome friendship if you disliked Jews to the point of being ready to plan shooting up some synagogues?
He obviously didn't. I think it's fair to assume that he was not anti-jewish. 
Just another 4chan noob. But what can you do?

>Why does he depict himself or this meme killing Shiites instead of Sunnis?
Dude, I have no idea. Maybe Tarrant was an idiot. Maybe it wasn't his meme and whoever made it was an idiot. Maybe he didn't care about the differences between Sunnis and Shiites. 

Most of these quibbles amount to personal disapproval of Tarrant's ideological motivations rather than proof that he was directed by or was a glowie.

If our standard for "you're a fed" is ideological disputes, everyone, and I mean literally everyone is a fed.
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>>16364
>What false dilemma?
The usual one. See red text.
>It's very obvious if you even just read it,
<it's all very real in my head
Sure mate. The manifesto's writer(s) knew when to become serious when needing being factual.
>If I recall, doesn't he go as far as to say he doesn't even hate all muslims, despite killing 50 of them?
You're late to the discussion. But if you want to talk about Pakistan, go on.
>No shit, nothing actually seems to radicalize them considering they are still doing nothing aside from accepting their own replacement and death.
Thank you for admitting that the manifesto is totally useless to them.
>Regardless, Tarrant probably felt hopeful that he could awaken some, even if just on a small level.
Morons who don't wake up when their own daughters get raped and their sons stabbed or beheaded on TV won't even flip the first page of a manifesto. Normies won't even want to hear anything about the thoughts of some mad lad who killed dozens of people in cold blood. Their minds will shut like clams to anything remotely uneasy to deal with. What this tells me is that you're living some kind of addictive fantasy.
>That's likely why he livestreamed it, to try and awaken the fighting spirit of whites, which has been utterly raped out of them by kikes nowadays.
Do you know who would be watching the stream? People who already knew. The stream lived for some seventeen minutes iirc. Blink and you'd miss it. Then those watching the recorded video would belong to the same kind of people too anyway. You could even say it's some kind of confirmation bias.
>What does that have to do with anything?
It shows the inconsistency within the document. One moment he says he will surrender because he's accepting capture after the shooting. Then he's talking like a random fash boy who says he can't wait to meet the red scum in the streets irl. It's totally disjointed.
>maybe he just wasn't extremely smart or had his own retarded reasoning for it that sounded good in his head.
People who are not very smart are people who are easily manipulated. That's the point. But retarded people won't be able to write a manifesto nor plan attacks.
>but he probably thought he could spread his message more by living to see court, as did Breivik.
Counting on ZOG to give you a mike and a soap box is ridiculous in this day and age. Gag orders do exist even for people who have done nothing illegal. Slanted trials are a thing too.
>You certainly implied it,
No. Again, it's all in your head.
Next post.
>I found a gotcha
You'd be better off verifying these claims first. The real article makes an accusation but not once provides the evidence that he nurtured any animosity towards the Jews.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/emergencies_national/509768/christchurch-terrorist-discussed-attacks-online-a-year-before-carrying-them-out-new-research-reveals
At best they say that because of a logical shortcut: he was on 4chan's /pol/ and else so he's antisemitic. Which is an obvious point to make though, because yes, if he had been on 4chan and other boards around 2018 and was radicalized, the chances that he would be oblivious to the JQ are near to none and all your acrobatics to explain why his recovered online activity and his manifesto are utterly devoid of some merchant meme or anything or that order are all the more embarrassing.

>>all those who colonize other peoples lands share guilt
*cough* White Americans White Australians White Kiwis North Indian Aryans *cough*
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>>16367
>What this tells me is that you're living some kind of addictive fantasy.
I'm telling you what his most likely logic was, I didn't say it was correct nor that I believed it was correct
>Do you know who would be watching the stream? People who already knew. The stream lived for some seventeen minutes iirc. Blink and you'd miss it. Then those watching the recorded video would belong to the same kind of people too anyway. You could even say it's some kind of confirmation bias.
The stream spreads, the people who viewed it live are not the only ones to view it, it didn't just become unable to be viewed after that. It serves as a useful tool for radicalization long after the actual live broadcast ended.
>It shows the inconsistency within the document. One moment he says he will surrender because he's accepting capture after the shooting. Then he's talking like a random fash boy who says he can't wait to meet the red scum in the streets irl. It's totally disjointed.
He'll surrender to the police, use court/news coverage to increase his message (or rather, awareness of his messge), and then "confront reds in the streets" if he is ever somehow let free, which he may have very well believed would happen.
>People who are not very smart are people who are easily manipulated. That's the point. But retarded people won't be able to write a manifesto nor plan attacks.
Another reason he selected NZ may have been to tie into his "there's nowhere let to run" idea he wanted to push. Many whites like the idea of fleeing from their problems when things get heated, if America and Europe were too bad, many "le based right wingers" would consider fucking off to a place like NZ. Tarrant demonstrated that the invades have taken over that land as well. Not only that, but the passing of laws after his attack lowered the quality of life in NZ, which again, makes it much harder for people to fuck off and ignore the problem.
>Counting on ZOG to give you a mike and a soap box is ridiculous in this day and age. Gag orders do exist even for people who have done nothing illegal. Slanted trials are a thing too.
He doesn't even need to speak in court to get his message across. His name being repeated in the news and court long after his attack will increase exposure to him, many people who didn't previously know who he was now become aware of him, and possibly look into his manifesto and livestream. 
>No. Again, it's all in your head.
Uh yeah, totally, that's why you just posted an image which associates pro-white mass shooters will shills and, by thinking further into this idea, feds/mossad (implying they are useful idiot puppets for them). Half of the shit in that image is an absurd strawman as well, none of the big pro-white shooters ever promoted Trump for instance. And why does it paint radicalism as something bad? You can say it's the jews all day, but it means nothing until whites start removing those jews, and their immigrant golems, which won't happen until radicalization is increased.
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>>16366
>However, firstly this doesn't mean that he was a fed. The regime uses crises as a tool.
Fine until you remember who organizes the crises, whether they're "terrorist" attacks or economic ones. NZ is just the Christian side of the pattern used since the Twin Towers miraculously fell. The script has evolved, it's made a bit more subtle, it was tailored in this case to incriminate the chans, but at its core it's always the same scheme.
>Besides, if we get to stage 2 and need to move onto armed resistance in New Zealand, guns can be acquired.
Assuming many of them have not been ferried out of the island, there shall be depots. But our enemies wouldn't be that dumb, would they?
Including those reading us (hello).
>I'm saying that your quibbles on his non-alignment with your ideology is not proof that he's a fed. 90% of 4channers don't agree with you or me on fundamental ideological positions. He is just one of them.
He was not just a 4channer. He was a guy from /pol/ which already runs a selection on the audience. Then, he was also on 8ch, which was beyond the alt-right, deeper into hard pro-White ideology. And more. 90%? 100% of 4channers wouldn't write a manifesto, go digging historical material, shoot people, etc. He wasn't just some random sperg, he followed and commented on pro-White activist groups. His late posting activity makes him politically educated. But we've seen the deradicalizers posters on there, those throwing red herrings as if we still were stuck in 2014-16. The people who would sometimes agree that there was a birthrate issue, perhaps an invasion, but would dodge the causes.
>He obviously didn't. I think it's fair to assume that he was not anti-jewish. 
Anon, you're not answering the question. I'm talking about you, appealing to your common sense and logic with an example involving the Jews and Israel and asking you if you would go there and do hugs and shit and pray in synagogue, befriend rabbis and praise Israel if you hated Jews enough to be seriously considering storm a synagogue or two. I'm not asking you about what Tarrant did or didn't do in Israel.
>Dude, I have no idea. Maybe Tarrant was an idiot.
I heard him talk, he sounds well educated. His letters show that he can articulate his arguments. He's been doing some historical digging and he's been otherwise filling his manifesto with sensible arguments here and there that we would like to echoed therein. He quoted some thinkers, shoved some known poetry, looked into Europe's history and Europe's current politics including France. He went to many Muslim countries, he also went to Israel, I don't think he went to Iran though and that could be a red flag. He visited many places for cultural and religious reasons, learned about the local cultures. The idea that an 8channer wouldn't be aware of the JQ, the nature of the conflicts in the Middle East, and not know the difference between Sunni and Shia Islam is simply not plausible. We're not talking about some average consumer who does tourism to fool around and do big splashes into various hotels' swimming pools. He simply couldn't be that much of a cretin. So I will reject this suggestion.
>Maybe it wasn't his meme and whoever made it was an idiot. 
Perhaps. But all other political memes looked to be well chosen. So I'd expect him to look into the real people featured in the pictures he'd post and know what he's doing. Otherwise we'd have to assume that he didn't know much about some of the other pictures he posted that featured important people, but this is just not the feeling we get. Each picture, especially each one featuring a known figure, conveys a point that is part of a whole, whether a picture shows an historical figure or a modern one. All political motivated pictures he posted that I have seen mirror the manifesto. The anti-Iranian one is the one jarring slip up, a strange outlier, a mistake that is as surprising as it is convenient.
If you honestly opposed the Islamic immigration you would look into the causes, one of which is war that created so called refugees. Of course he hardly does that. He'd notably find out Israel's involvement in such wars and how Iran, in comparison, is one of the most peaceful countries in the region in the recent history, leaving aside the threats made towards the Zionist state.
The man never honestly looks into the true causes, does he?
>Maybe he didn't care about the differences between Sunnis and Shiites.
Not for someone so eager to know about other cultures and so learned about politics and history. That would be very incoherent.
>Most of these quibbles amount to personal disapproval of Tarrant's ideological motivations rather than proof that he was directed by or was a glowie.
True but we often measure the moral reliability and true ideological alignment of generals, CEOs, judges, journalists, academics, intellectuals and politicians using these same methods, to know if they're friends or foe, so there shouldn't be any problem doing the same to gauge Tarrant's alignment. Do you have any issue with this?
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>>16368
>He'll surrender to the police, use court/news coverage to increase his message (or rather, awareness of his messge), and then "confront reds in the streets" if he is ever somehow let free, which he may have very well believed would happen.
Chances of this happening? None.
IQ of believing this could be a likely outcome? 30.
I'm tired of your shitty hypotheticals that are just pure bad faith at this point.
Maybe you believe like he did that he'll be released twenty seven years later since that's what happened to Mandela? :)
>Another reason he selected NZ may have been to tie into his "there's nowhere let to run" idea he wanted to push. Many whites like the idea of fleeing from their problems when things get heated, if America and Europe were too bad, many "le based right wingers" would consider fucking off to a place like NZ. Tarrant demonstrated that the invades have taken over that land as well. Not only that, but the passing of laws after his attack lowered the quality of life in NZ, which again, makes it much harder for people to fuck off and ignore the problem.
So he gloriously sacrificed his life just to show something you can check on wikipedia or google maps? lol
>He doesn't even need to speak in court to get his message across. His name being repeated in the news and court long after his attack will increase exposure to him, many people who didn't previously know who he was now become aware of him, and possibly look into his manifesto and livestream.
If they even do that they'll be entertained for a few minutes and for the dimmest of them perhaps discover that unarmed morons packed in rooms are easy targets, which isn't exactly rocket science, I hope they won't focus too much on the surrender part and the total failure to expose the Jews, since aside the shooting there's not much to chew on. He didn't even come up with the term Great Replacement. 
>Uh yeah, totally, that's why you just posted an image which associates pro-white mass shooters will shills and, by thinking further into this idea, feds/mossad (implying they are useful idiot puppets for them).
Yes, that's what the picture does, and that's my position on it.
But you didn't use those words. You had me say:
>every single white man who ever went out and killed his enemies is fake and gay.
This is not the same thing and I praise the hundreds of thousands of White men who fought for Europe across history, those who fought against the Zulus, the Mexicans and redskins, etc. I put the shooters in a different category.
>Half of the shit in that image is an absurd strawman as well, none of the big pro-white shooters ever promoted Trump for instance.
Tarrant literally joined with Cottrell and Sewell online to hail Trump's first election despite how jewed he was through and thorough.
>And why does it paint radicalism as something bad?
Does it?
>And why does it paint radicalism as something bad? You can say it's the jews all day, but it means nothing until whites start removing those jews, and their immigrant golems, which won't happen until radicalization is increased.
Sure but why would you start killing Jews if you don't even expose them adequately?

Look, your courageous defense of Tarrant has been dully noted but can we get real now?
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>>16369
>appealing to your common sense and logic with an example involving the Jews and Israel and asking you if you would go there and do hugs and shit and pray in synagogue, befriend rabbis and praise Israel if you hated Jews enough to be seriously considering storm a synagogue or two.
Obviously not. But I'm not Tarrant.

>The idea that an 8channer wouldn't be aware of the JQ, the nature of the conflicts in the Middle East, and not know the difference between Sunni and Shia Islam is simply not plausible
Maybe he was new or didn't spend much time on our site. 
I'll admit that it is weird that a smart guy in our circles is ignorant of the blindingly obviously jewish control over media. But I'm not going to fedjacket people just because I don't like their ideological world view. And I don't see good evidence that his actions were connected to the regime or fulfilled a strategic loss for us. 
Maybe the elites overestimate the threat of civilian gun ownership. But still, doing a shooting spree because you hate Muslims isn't unbelievable to me. Hell, the Bible commands that you slay infidels. Maybe he took it seriously.

I don't think it's wrong to subject political actors (and killing Muslims is a political act) to scrutiny.
However, it's debilitating to our side to foster the perception that feds do everything.
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You know what the real problem with the mass shooter thing is? In order to convince others to join the cause, you need to present an outcome to which others can aspire to. 
Getting caught and put in a cell for 100 years is not a desirable outcome.
This lone wolf shooter who kills ~15 shitskins and then gets caught is not a winning strategy.
>>16370
>Chances of this happening? None.
Because....it just couldn't, okay? Nobody was radicalized by Tarrant, goyim, ignore the various copycats and attempted copycats he had, ignore the increased exposure accelerationism has had since then
>Maybe you believe like he did that he'll be released twenty seven years later since that's what happened to Mandela? :)
Again, did I say I actually believed everything he did? 
>So he gloriously sacrificed his life just to show something you can check on wikipedia or google maps? lol
Sometimes things need to be shoved down the throat of people for them to get it
>If they even do that they'll be entertained for a few minutes and for the dimmest of them perhaps discover that unarmed morons packed in rooms are easy targets, which isn't exactly rocket science, I hope they won't focus too much on the surrender part and the total failure to expose the Jews, since aside the shooting there's not much to chew on. He didn't even come up with the term Great Replacement. 
I've known people who've said Tarant's attack was a massive motivation boost. These people were already "in the know" on the ideology, but were further "radicalized" by it, and I can imagine that has happened a lot more over the years. In fact, the discovery of his case in general played a part in my radicalization from a "alt right" retard to a National Socialist with much more "militant" views
>This is not the same thing and I praise the hundreds of thousands of White men who fought for Europe across history, those who fought against the Zulus, the Mexicans and redskins, etc. I put the shooters in a different category.
I said recent/modern times I believe, that should make it pretty clear. Because in the past decades, the pro-white shooters are the only fucking white people actually killing their enemies. 
>Tarrant literally joined with Cottrell and Sewell online to hail Trump's first election despite how jewed he was through and thorough.
Tarrant answered "dear god no" on the question on if he supported Trump's policies and buisness. Why do you think he didn't support Trump as well? If he was a true zionist, shouldn't he love the zionist golem who provokes useless wars for Israel?
>Does it?
Considering it paints the mere term "derad" as a shill term and throws it into the same category as pro-Trump and pro-zionist terms, among other things, sort of yes
>Sure but why would you start killing Jews if you don't even expose them adequately?
Well, as you noted previously, and were sort of right on, most people seeing Tarrant's ideas and stream aren't complete normalfags (although, I don't doubt at least some out there got pushed in the right direction because of him). Tarrant shoved many people already on the "right" much further to considering or even using violence. This may have actually been why his manifesto has so much derad-isms itself, he took the typical "safe" non-"Nazi" version of "white nationalism" that doesn't hate jews, or fully muslims even then associated it with mass violence. Causing the media to smear it and force people who believed in it to move much further right.
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>>16372
>Maybe he was new or didn't spend much time on our site. 
He was already having a political life online as early as January 20 2017.
He also donated around $1500 iirc to some Australian far-right group that was under the risk of getting banned.
Thinking he was some political ignoramus doesn't work one bit.
Something easily forgotten is how some of the traitors we know about, those on TV, the politicians, etc., fear the Jews but they also hate them. But knowing who is in power and who handles them the money, they stay quiet about it. Finding cases of people who had some antisemitic bouts in their earlier years before suddenly becoming silent about it are numerous. This could apply to Tarrant.
Some journalists looked deeper into Tarrant's life, which was far from easy.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19434472.2024.2374758#d1e288
>Importantly, some of the views that would form the basis of his ideological beliefs as an adult seem to have surfaced early in life. For instance, whilst still at school, he began expressing racist, including anti-Semitic, views which on two occasions led to the intervention of his high school’s Anti-Racism Contact Officer. Tarrant informed the Commission that, ‘he began to think politically' as early as the age of 12, during which his primary concerns were about immigration, particularly by Muslims into Western countries.
>It is interesting to note that the formation of these views coincides with the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington DC. These views likely developed further due to his online activity, with his mother observing that he began using the imageboard website 4chan as early as the age of 14 (RRCI-V2, Citation2020, p. 168). Over the years, he would continue to utilize other online and social media platforms to develop and articulate his extremist views, including during online chats while playing video games and through the Facebook pages of Australian far-right groups such as the United Patriots Front and the True Blue Crew.
>Moreover, his extensive international travel between 2014 and 2017, made possible by his father’s inheritance, is likely to have deepened his ideological views, with his mother observing that the more he travelled, the more racist he became. This view was echoed by his sister, who observed that following his return to Australia in mid-2016 for a short time amid his international travel, he was a ‘changed person [who] spoke regularly of politics, religion, culture, history and past wars … ’ (RRCI-V2, Citation2020, p. 178). It was during this international travel that Tarrant likely formed his terrorist intent, putting his plan in motion as early as January 2017.
It's very likely that this mix of being a socially awkward guy who spent much time online, including politically dedicated platforms, and the growth of far-right opinions, certainly had him cross the path of people fishing for this kind of profile.
He was 28 when he attacked the mosques. So according to this, his political awareness and racial comprehension of society's ills would have already been very high. The two antisemitic and racist outbursts in high school really make it hard to believe he'd become oblivious to the topic of Jewish subversion.
This leaves us with those possibilities:
- he genuinely abandoned the antisemitism to focus on Islam by adopting a rather soft-Christian stance which also is highly Zionism friendly.
- the complete obfuscation of Jewish parasitism is voluntary and somehow malicious; a conspiracy option which remains very Zionist compliant.
- he filtered any constructive attack on Jews in his manifesto and likely his Facebook bio because of the reasons provided by his supporters.
>By the time Tarrant arrived in New Zealand in August 2017, his ideological views were fully developed, he had formed an intention to engage in an act of terrorism (although there is some question as to whether he initially intended to conduct his attack in New Zealand), and was financially independent. Over the next 18 months, he would carefully and methodically build his capability, develop his operational knowledge and skills, and physically and mentally prepare for his attack, all without coming to the attention of New Zealand’s counter-terrorism authorities.
And of course during this period, he would go to Pakistan to befriend rather orthodox leaning Muslims living in the mountains (Pakistani extremists spew from the same area types).
>On the morning of 15 March 2019, a date he had established as his ‘go plan' more than two months previously, Tarrant, armed with six firearms and several incendiary devices, travelled the 360 kilometers from his home in Dunedin to the Al Noor Mosque.
That is not something he could improvise just like that.
>And I don't see good evidence that his actions were connected to the regime or fulfilled a strategic loss for us. 
I understand. It depends on how you view the legal onslaught and international activity that immediately followed, as explained earlier. >>16359
This mirrors so much what happened right after 9/11, which we know was a Zionist operation, that it is easy to be very suspicious of the NZ 2019 assaults. It's best I suppose to stay vigilant.
>Maybe the elites overestimate the threat of civilian gun ownership.
Come on, they're scared shitless of Whites owning guns. They know that their entire power rests in the hands of the armed police drones and the military guys, nowhere else, and their capacity to vomit entire legions of brownoids into our lands until we become so submerged that even our weapons wouldn't suffice to save us. Everything else is just a manipulation to keep people in a specific mental state so they are afraid and prefer to respect the Jewish law.
>But still, doing a shooting spree because you hate Muslims isn't unbelievable to me. Hell, the Bible commands that you slay infidels. Maybe he took it seriously.
So that would be a religious interwar more than anything else?
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>Because....it just couldn't, okay? Nobody was radicalized by Tarrant, goyim, ignore the various copycats and attempted copycats he had, ignore the increased exposure accelerationism has had since then
Let's ignore all the dumb shit you said about him ever getting out of jail and even fighting communists in the street.
Out of all those copycats, how many exposed the Jews to correct what Tarrant didn't do? How many actually targeted sensitive elements of the Jewish System instead of reinforcing it?
Not many, if not none at all. We're literally struggling to organize and the only people, the only autists who appear somewhat ready to do something, are encouraged to ruin their lives with a sheer net loss at the end of it.
>Again, did I say I actually believed everything he did?
You certainly believed in him getting out like he did.
>Sometimes things need to be shoved down the throat of people for them to get it
We've had a rise on the far-right worldwide well before 2019. Millions upon millions already aware of the presence of foreigners everywhere, who don't want or don't have the means of leaving their respective countries for some fabled all-White fairy tale land.
And frankly why are you complaining? If plenty of White Nationalists wanted to settle in New Zealand, that would have been good news for this smallish country. In fact no matter the damage control of that entire narrative supposedly being that "Tarrant did it to show how places like New Zealand were a lost cause," thousands of WNs landing in NZ would be one of the most positive things that could ever happen to this place, even more since despite the regulations, acquiring potent weapons over there still remains easy even for the most vanilla non/k/ guy.
So if Tarrant's message would be don't go to NZ, I'd say fuck him.
I'd say go there and reclaim these islands. In fact if we can't even do it in such a small and contained place like NZ how could we hope to achieve it anywhere else?
The only political party that could be somewhat called nationalist is NZF. Its best scores are about 6-8% at most. You won't get anything out of that without action.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_New_Zealand_general_election
>In early August 2026, Radio New Zealand reported that youth voter enrolment has plummeted to 53% by 30 June 2026. This was the lowest figure in a 15-year decline in voter enrolment between 2011 and 2026. On 30 June 2011, 70% of young people between the ages of 18 and 24 years had enrolled to vote. By 2023, this figure had declined to 60% of young people.
>I've known people who've said Tarant's attack was a massive motivation boost.
Cool for them. So what are they doing now?
>In fact, the discovery of his case in general played a part in my radicalization from a "alt right" retard to a National Socialist with much more "militant" views
A person who knows nothing about the Jews is not a National Socialist. What prevented you from learning about the Jews when you were that "alt right retard" then? That could be genuinely useful.
>I said recent/modern times I believe, that should make it pretty clear. Because in the past decades, the pro-white shooters are the only fucking white people actually killing their enemies.
Maybe they're braver than many of us, but since Tarrant, how many of their combined confirmed kills were radical imams, rabbis (any one of them counts), politically relevant kikes, judges who condemn White people for wrongthink, sellout politicians, repeat sex offender pedophiles?
>Tarrant answered "dear god no" on the question on if he supported Trump's policies and buisness.
Yet he said "sure" about supporting him as "a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose" which is just bullshit because Trump never once stood for Whites. That's the same absolutely zogged orange man who back in 2016 was lifting a female nigglet in front of a large crowd while saying how a "most beautiful little girl" she was and repeated that multiple times.
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=qFiXn8nhM48
That's your great pro-White symbol. Allow me to laugh.
>Considering it paints the mere term "derad" as a shill term and throws it into the same category as pro-Trump and pro-zionist terms, among other things, sort of yes
What about sort of no? Derad is the term used to silence anyone in doubt of the real motives of most of these shooters and implying they're all counting on national "next time we win" elections, because that's exactly how it's been used all these years, which is nothing short of very sus, on top of so often conveniently mising the right useful targets. This looked like nothing more than FBI grooming on steroids for Zionist interests.
>Well, as you noted previously, and were sort of right on, most people seeing Tarrant's ideas and stream aren't complete normalfags (although, I don't doubt at least some out there got pushed in the right direction because of him). Tarrant shoved many people already on the "right" much further to considering or even using violence. This may have actually been why his manifesto has so much derad-isms itself, he took the typical "safe" non-"Nazi" version of "white nationalism" that doesn't hate jews, or fully muslims even then associated it with mass violence. Causing the media to smear it and force people who believed in it to move much further right.
You're evading the question because the obvious answer would be "no" if Tarrant was the gold standard of the kind of targets we were expected to focus on.
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>>16382
>Thinking he was some political ignoramus doesn't work one bit.
Fine. I admit, it's weird. 
>It's possible that nefarious actors were seeking people terminally online with social prowess to groom into a shooter
Okay, I'll humor this notion. I wasn't aware of his high school remarks. 
Obviously, you'd speculate that he omitted serious critiques of the jewish role in "White replacement" because his handlers, presumably the CIA, don't actually want people to notice ((( them ))).
Firstly; If the feds were grooming him, he presumably wrote his own manifesto still. I highly doubt that they wrote it for him. So how could they possibly groom a JQ'd guy to not talk about them?
Secondly, why have him go to Pakistan anyway? The standard interpretation is that he was doing a boomer thing like going on 10 cruises before he "retires" permanently to a prison cell. If he was being groomed, why would the feds think this was a good idea? 
You know, what if he traveled to a hot zone with an ulterior purpose? What if he had some notion that he would get in contact with the Taliban and learn how to make explosives? It's possible. Again, I think we're all overestimating his intelligence. I think he was missing some connections. 

>That is not something he could improvise just like that.
I mean, what even is the difficulty here? He could have memorized the roads of Christchurch by studying google maps. Maybe he could have visited the mosque beforehand and pretended to be a convert to memorize the interior.  Maybe that was why he traveled to a Muslim country. I admit, that's a flimsy reason, but it's possible. Maybe he had a grander plan but it didn't pan out.

> It depends on how you view the legal onslaught and international activity that immediately followed, as explained earlier
I fully read that post and I was responding to it. I genuinely do not see these results as debilitating. Sorry, but New Zealand is just not a very relevant place. 

>they're scared shitless of Whites owning guns
Are they? Sure they don't like it but the threat posed by Whites with guns is pretty low. Especially given how pitifully disorganized we are. If the elites are so terrified, why aren't they focusing on gun confiscation in America? You must admit that the DNC has been quietly abandoning that battle over the past 20 years. In the 90s, jews literally outlawed the sale of "aSsAuLt RiFlEs."
But they let the matter drop after the NRA bitched. I do not believe that the jews cannot defeat the NRA. Yet they haven't launched a serious offensive against guns since.
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>>16376
>ignore the various copycats and attempted copycats he had
>Tarrant shoved many people already on the "right" much further to considering or even using violence
I'm on the side of Tarrant not being a fed, but he inspired, at best, 3 other lone wolf shooters. John Ernest and Patrick Crusius in America, and that German guy who couldn't get past a jewish wooden door. It's been 7 years and not a single follow up shooter has followed him into prison. 

I think that Tarrant was genuine and meant well. His rage was righteous and justified. But he would have done far more good if he stayed outside of prison and focused on building an alternative to ZOG that doesn't end with you rotting in solitary confinement.
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>>16383
>Let's ignore all the dumb shit you said about him ever getting out of jail and even fighting communists in the street.
>You certainly believed in him getting out like he did.
Explaining his own mindset does not mean I also hold that mindset
>Not many, if not none at all. We're literally struggling to organize and the only people, the only autists who appear somewhat ready to do something, are encouraged to ruin their lives with a sheer net loss at the end of it.
If whites got their shit together and actually "organized", maybe these "autists" wouldn't have "ruined their lives"? They don't really have many options, considering the average modern "pro-white group" does even less overall than a lonewolf shooter does. 
>And frankly why are you complaining? 
White flight is good now? Maybe whites should try taking back their major countries instead of fleeing to an island while those countries are overtaken and converted into third world hellholes? Also, tons of racially aware whites fleeing to a single smaller location would give jews a perfect chance to just.... nuke the location? No, that's not even absurd, if jews knew they could easily kill a large number of "nazis" with one stone, they would. 
>A person who knows nothing about the Jews is not a National Socialist. What prevented you from learning about the Jews when you were that "alt right retard" then? That could be genuinely useful.
When did I say I didn't know about jews?
>Yet he said "sure" about supporting him as "a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose" 
Probably refering to the fact that many whites were brought together by his first campaign, as many actually believed he was pro-white.....for some fucking reason. I don't think Tarrant actually believed Trump was a genuine pro-white symbol.
>implying they're all counting on national "next time we win" elections
Because that's the truth? If they aren't counting on elections, they are counting on internet posts and stickers. Sure, the pro-white shooters we currently have gotten were a bit sloppy with their targets, but that's because we are leaving it to autists, as they are the only ones who got annoyed enough to do something.
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>he inspired, at best, 3 other lone wolf shooters.

This is false, Tarrant directly inspired hundreds, dozens actually went in action, even more were stopped at the planning/fantasizing stage by glowniggers monitoring the internet and we can add the numerous non-right wing shooters who took inspiration from him about gear, weaponry or livestreaming, including non white people all around the world (the first that come to mind are a nigger larper, a guy in east Asia, a guy in Turkey etc.)

Tarrant is a genius and a genuine hero.
A white man willing to take action against ZOG is so rare that we are still here debating him, not to mention glowniggers and ZOG being traumatized by it and reshaping their policies out of fear of the inspiration and hope he instilled in so many people.
I will never stop being in awe of what he accomplished.
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>>16388
> Tarrant directly inspired hundreds, dozens actually went in action, even more were stopped at the planning/fantasizing stage by glowniggers monitoring the internet 
Name one besides the "big" (massively overstated) 3.
I'll wager that you can't and will say that the media didn't report on them because they did basically nothing.
Also, if hundreds got arrested before even doing anything, this means that the 2019 attack led to hundreds of young White nationalists being arrested for justifiable reasons yet accomplishing nothing. 
That's stupid.

>we can add the numerous non-right wing shooters who took inspiration from him about gear
Why would we add that? wtf does his gear matter?
Is this another example of prioritizing aesthetics of violence over material gains for OUR side? Stop doing that. Focus on results.

You idolize the wrong thing. Like him if you want but it is an objective fact that lone wolf shooters will never lead to meaningful results. Only organized men can overthrow the System. They are the true heroes of our age.
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>Obviously, you'd speculate that he omitted serious critiques of the jewish role in "White replacement" because his handlers, presumably the CIA, don't actually want people to notice (((  them  ))).
I would theorize Zionist handlers. What intermediary steps they went through and what organizations were involved would be nigh impossible to know. I simply observe that the profile is the absolute conclusion of the FBI's methods to groom isolated, motivated and easy to target people. The FBI admitted to grooming terrorists, only to betray them at the last moment. That's what this wicked and evil institution is already telling us, but we know if you read a few things said by lawyers on our side, by Lane or Matthews, how the rabbit hole goes much deeper than that. Just imagine what they don't speak about. Now, are the federals involved? Again, not necessarily. Chances would somehow be higher if the event took place in the USA, and although I wouldn't neglect the possibility of some input because I don't think NZ nor even Australia have any solid experience in this kind of horrors, the theory would be that they made do with local assets as much as possible. Supposedly, because again, we also know–and that's always deflected by shills–that international anti-terrorist drills were happening at the exact same time in that city. Which means there already were foreign elements already operating in New Zealand, and had been doing so for a whole week in fact. Even China was involved in those drills IIRC. The confusion was total and you may remember the sort of bait that added to this confusion that was this mulatto-black man arrested in front of the Papanui (spelling?) school, carrying a weapon in a large bag, whom seven years later remains a total mystery because I haven't found one piece of information telling us if he was part of the drills or not. Which means that the information about the drills themselves is well preserved when the authorities want it that way.
>Firstly; If the feds were grooming him, he presumably wrote his own manifesto still.
I'm not really sure he did. I think it's redacted through collaboration. The fact that it relies on no less than three different types of English would support this. But what's curious is that even a neighbour of his said that Tarrant had more of an English accent than an Aussie one but I guess that's left to the appreciation of us all. His streamed video and the court ones don't have him an accent that's as strong as the prosecutor's (I think).
>So how could they possibly groom a JQ'd guy to not talk about them?
That's a good question and it doesn't even limit itself to the scenario wherein he's been turned into an asset.
I alluded to that earlier on as there could be reasons why his freedoms would be restricted under pressure and perhaps some threats.
>Secondly, why have him go to Pakistan anyway? The standard interpretation is that he was doing a boomer thing like going on 10 cruises before he "retires" permanently to a prison cell. If he was being groomed, why would the feds think this was a good idea?
Reworded: Why would his handlers want him to go to a haven of training centers for intensive Islamic terrorism to the point of him even trying to blend-in hard during his holiday over there?
You have the first "naive" layer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Pakistan
But we also know that we're talking about the ((( USA ))) who need to generate and sustain the enemy they're going to fight against, coupled to the eternal narrative of hunting scarecrow Bin Laden, whom several intelligence agencies outside of the US had already declared dead. That thing was one big farce, so the fake vaccination campaign around 2011 likely hid something else.
The fraud is rather huge.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-cias-maddening-relationship-with-pakistan
>Last week, Donald Trump became the third President to echo that frustration. “The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years,” he tweeted. “They have given us nothing but lies & deceit.” Three days later, the Trump Administration went further than its predecessors when the State Department announced that it was suspending military-equipment deliveries and financial assistance to Pakistan until the country took, in the words of a senior Administration official, “decisive action” against the Afghan Taliban, the Haqqani network, and other groups that “threaten U.S. interests and U.S. personnel” in Afghanistan.
Does it prove anything? No, but these are huge sums of money that tie the United States, Pakistan and Islamic terrorism in a bullshit War on Terror started after the jewops of 9/11. So you know that all of this is one big charade. And for some reason, our dear ultra nationalist and soon-to-be mosque shooter flies right into the heart of this shitfest, where drones fly over remote tribal regions to bomb Pakistani targets and at a time when the Haqqani network grew, and goes befriending people from those very same regions.
I'm afraid that unless we hear about some new and stupefying tidbit this will just remain stuck at the level of this situation being abnormally suspicious.
I could get back to this:
>The standard interpretation is that he was doing a boomer thing like going on 10 cruises before he "retires" permanently to a prison cell.
By the time he went to Pakistan, he was already planning his attack from what I read. It seems he had been musing over it for almost a year and a half, while the tour in Pakistan happening only five months before the assault.
Let's be serious. If you're a hardcore White Nationalist, a defender of the White race, a lover of mountains and you know this will be your last months of freedom or even perhaps life, there are so many better other options than going to goddamn Pakistan to be surrounded by mudskin Muslims whom you're secretly plotting to exterminate like dogs, children included, as soon as you return home. Mountain ranges in White countries specifically have been places where the invaders are rarely or never present, one of the last zones where Whites were free and still dominated. I'd go to such places just to be sure to take with me fond memories of good places full of White people, to remember why I fought. Assuming you'd be plotting to mow through niggers at some local church of yours as part of a pest control operation, would you spend your last days in Africa to live in shit huts and befriending apemen? If you had planned killing beaners, would you spend your last days in Mexico to befriend Sanchez? Wouldn't you instead go to a place to remind you of what could be lost if you didn't do something, instead of doing opting for a totally mindbogglingly and tortuously twisted option?
Even if you think the guy wasn't an asset, that kind of profile screams total wacko in big bright neon letters.
>You know, what if he traveled to a hot zone with an ulterior purpose? What if he had some notion that he would get in contact with the Taliban and learn how to make explosives? It's possible.
You don't need to go to Taliban HQ to learn about to make cheap incendiary explosives, sorry. I wish to be polite towards you so I'll say that's a very reaching suggestion. You don't even need to learn from anyone to improvise pipe bombs tied to fuel cans. For starters, every single piece of civilian ammunition comes with a portion of explosive materials: gunpowder and primer.
Wikipedia alones gives you plenty of information about certain types of substances that you can buy online or irl that have very interesting properties.
>I mean, what even is the difficulty here? He could have memorized the roads of Christchurch by studying google maps. Maybe he could have visited the mosque beforehand and pretended to be a convert to memorize the interior.  Maybe that was why he traveled to a Muslim country. I admit, that's a flimsy reason, but it's possible. Maybe he had a grander plan but it didn't pan out.
That was something I wanted to deal with its own post so this will have to wait for now.
>I fully read that post and I was responding to it. I genuinely do not see these results as debilitating. Sorry, but New Zealand is just not a very relevant place.
Depends for whom. For White Americans and Europeans? Sure.
For kikes? New Zealand represented a perfect miniaturized laboratory environment to measure the capacity of authorities to see how far they could go to stomp on liberties, amplify immigration and degeneracy and seize weapons. That was the point of my detailed post but sadly it seems to have fallen on deaf ears.
Another point to consider is how kikes have sometimes strange obsessions for isolated and remote places. See them, Kushner in fact, trying to buy a whole island in Albania. Or buying lands in Montenegro. Or seizing territories in Patagonia. Plus some other places which I'm sure are perfectly suited for secretive and pedophilia related activities.
>>>they're scared shitless of Whites owning guns
>Are they?
You can't be serious. Are you playing with me or what? Of course they are, because without guns we're dead. Guns are the last thing we might possess and use to reclaim our countries, and Jews know that no matter the amount of propaganda they spill everyday on TV, online, in schools and elsewhere, there are huge amounts of obtuse White populations numbering in the many tens of millions who are longing for a real far-right radical solution.
For example, the only reason you respect a judge is because there are cops who have guns to enforce the judge's final word. The moment you have guns too and decide you don't recognize the state's authority, funny things will begin. We've seen that merely disputing the US federal taxation scheme brought trouble to several individuals and families. Kahl, Matthews, Maynard, etc. And it all ended with gunfire.
So anyone who may even doubt that weapons are that relevant and that Jews are not so afraid of White having weapons makes me strongly doubt the sincerity of this person.
>If the elites are so terrified, why aren't they focusing on gun confiscation in America?
>You must admit that the DNC has been quietly abandoning that battle over the past 20 years.
Like if they hadn't tried for decades to progressively gnaw at the Second Amendment and used all these shooting sprees to have militant organizations push for restrictions, every single time. They even tried to champion the surrender and buy-back in some shows.
>I do not believe that the jews cannot defeat the NRA. Yet they haven't launched a serious offensive against guns since.
You underestimate how guns are a religion in the US. Bible and gun. The problem being the bible, mostly.
And the reason they probably believe they can't achieve anything is that even in much more tamed NZ but where there still are strong similarities regarding gun ownership, the buy-back program proved disappointing. Now the Whites are globally taking a hard turn to the right, there are even less chances for Jews to manage to seize weapon like they once legally stole people's gold. Gold is secondary to guns.
>>16387
>Explaining his own mindset does not mean I also hold that mindset
Your phrasing was confusing then but ok.
>If whites got their shit together and actually "organized", maybe these "autists" wouldn't have "ruined their lives"?
True but if they ever were to do something the targets they'd go after would obviously be much different.
>They don't really have many options, considering the average modern "pro-white group" does even less overall than a lonewolf shooter does.
Unfortunately what they did was rather pointless. See calculation at the end of that post >>16359
It goes without saying that if you had such an army, you'd make much better use of it.
>White flight is good now?
Fleeing like cowards isn't, but a transfer of thousands of White Nationalists dissatisfied with democracy and settling in NZ to change things is very good.
>Also, tons of racially aware whites fleeing to a single smaller location would give jews a perfect chance to just.... nuke the location?
Have you even considered what would happen if they truly were to do something so stupid? Maybe stop watching movies and you'll stop suggesting stupid things.
>When did I say I didn't know about jews?
So what the fuck did you learn from the NZ shooting and made you go from retard to based that you didn't already? How can you claim to have been a retard if you already knew about the Jews? You're not making sense.
>I don't think Tarrant actually believed Trump was a genuine pro-white symbol.
As per the manifesto, he absolutely did.
>Because that's the truth?
Not believing in the mass shooter craze doesn't make you a believer of democracy.

Tarrant wasn't a lone wolf because lone wolves don't do everything they can to get caught. They actually know they're valuable assets and they're not totally suicidal retards with no real plan aside from generating shock that ZOG could exploit within 48 hours.
Zionist stooges do.
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>>16389
Earnest, Crusius, Balliet, Veltman, Gendron, Krajcik, among others. There's also probably some who didn't get caught. 
>>16388
>we can add the numerous non-right wing shooters who took inspiration from him about gear, weaponry or livestreaming
Well let's be honest, non-right wing/non-pro white shooters are useless. We don't need some faggot killing random ass whtes
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>>16391
>True but if they ever were to do something the targets they'd go after would obviously be much different.
If we had proper organization, whites could target lower and higher value targets and get away with it. Although, for lower value ones, like say a bunch of random niggers, it'd be more sensible to use chemical or explosive options to eliminate them en masse. 
>Have you even considered what would happen if they truly were to do something so stupid? Maybe stop watching movies and you'll stop suggesting stupid things.
Jews paint swastikas on their own synagogues, blew up their own towers, and killed their own zogbots on the USS liberty. Plus, they could always just blame it on some foreign country, like they did for 9/11, and tried to do for the USS liberty. I don't even think the average white normie would care though. If jews killed a large amount of "racist whites", they could easily get goyim to support it or at least feel indifferent to it.
>How can you claim to have been a retard if you already knew about the Jews? You're not making sense.
Just knowing about jews does not make someone smart, or else the 30iq mexicans following Nick Fuentes must be smart. Before discovering the NZ shooting, I was not nearly as radical as I am now. 
>Not believing in the mass shooter craze doesn't make you a believer of democracy.
You can be critical of their methods while not outright denouncing them. You can also be critical of their methods without believing them to be part of a conspiracy. 
>They actually know they're valuable assets and they're not totally suicidal 
The current conditions of ZOG actually have driven many to become suicidal. Some lone wolf shootings may have been sparked because the person didn't have any options left, but didn't want to just kill himself without doing a single thing like a coward. Again, it happens because we haven't provided them with truly better options, only 2-more-weeks tier copes ("Just join patriot front, bro!")
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>>16389
> being arrested for justifiable reasons

shut up nigger, watching memes on the internet and using it as an excuse to jail 13 years olds for terrorism is NOT justifiable by any metric.
Identical arrests span the entire west and even non white countries.
This proves many things, especially that Tarrant's action DID have a long lasting impact and that his message is powerful and influential.

>>16393
I was not making a point about these non whites being useful, I was merely showing how the derad nigger was patently lying in downplaying the influence of Tarrant in general
>>16395
Eh I don't really feel bothered by the non-white copycats, a nigger killing other niggers is good for us honestly. The nigger goes to jail or dies, and other niggers die. They certainly don't deserve hero status like the true White Disciples of Tarrant do though.

The real shitty ones are the ones who kill whites, so many retarded shooters who are white themselves have killed random ass white people in their schools and such, it's tiresome. Thankfully the vast majority of those weren't inspired by Tarrant though.
>>16395
>watching memes on the internet and using it as an excuse to jail 13 years olds for terrorism is NOT justifiable by any metric.
No shit.
But planning out a shooting spree, threatening to conduct one, or encouraging others to do so is in the minds of 95% of normal people.
That was the original context of your post. Not memes.
It's actually a good thing when the state arrests people for memes because this can be used to convince others that there is no peaceful solution. No one cares if dumbasses get arrested for announcing plans to commit terrorism online.
>>16394
Regardless of the target, you would do everything to stay alive, to optimize your resources, to complete a mission without raising alarms, all the while avoiding capture as much as possible and above everything else, you would reject surrender on moral grouns alone even before talking about strategical ones. That's utterly retarded, our means are limited, our men (and even women) ready to fight are precious. We must not tolerate this martyrdom mentality.
>Jews paint swastikas on their own synagogues, blew up their own towers, and killed their own zogbots on the USS liberty. 
There is a world of difference between spraying some paint or even damaging buildings with suicidal vehicles or missiles, and literally dropping a nuke to get rid of a WN uprising in NZ. The issue isn't even mechanical but boils down to the consequences of such an act. How do you rationalize nuking a whole cities and some more territory? How would the other nations react to that? How would other White Nationalists react to that too? It they were to do that it would be gloves off and their entire fragile system that's based on moral legitimacy would collapse within forty eight hours.
What it would do is force the US' hand to intervene. But since it would be clear that this uprising would be a WN one, then American WNs would have no option but to counter-attack their own government over this or at the very least pressure politicians to block this through congress, no matter how jewed it could be. There, again, would be the end of it. It's not practical for Europeans to send people there, but Americans, with the help of dedicated Australians, can do that. The extent of the kiwi forces are such that gaining support of the local forces, at least if they were split between pro and against, would be necessary. You're looking at 6438 soldiers, reserves included. A mix of hitting the responsive capacity of said forces and also going for neve centers would be required, supported by unflinching propaganda through the capture of information compounds. When over there your plan is not to negociate but to conquer. Period.
And then turn the island as a training center for more WNs.
>Just knowing about jews does not make someone smart, or else the 30iq mexicans following Nick Fuentes must be smart. Before discovering the NZ shooting, I was not nearly as radical as I am now.
I don't care about intelligence, I care about knowledge and emotions, necessary components of hatred. The more educated you are, the less of a "retard" you can be because even if you're missing some IQ points, you're going to side with us nevertheless.
But if someone shooting other people radicalized you, as it stirred something in you to thirst for more murder, let's just pray that you'll know who to team with and what to point the gun at in a successful and useful way.
>You can be critical of their methods while not outright denouncing them. You can also be critical of their methods without believing them to be part of a conspiracy.
Yes or you can denounce them for being wasteful and possibly manipulative if you push the conspiracy cursor even further. The conspiracy being that they're fished by networks looking for such unhinged and slightly autistic profiles... which is not much of a conspiracy, again, when the FBI openly admitted to doing that, minus equipping the would be terrorists with active weapons and explosives.
>Some long wold shootings
These are not "lone wolf" actions, they're just a mix of unefficient gorilla warfare, lashing out and a white version of chimping out, all with firing weapons at crowds.
>>16395
>I was not making a point about these non whites being useful, I was merely showing how the derad nigger was patently lying in downplaying the influence of Tarrant in general
His influence has merely pushed alt-social people to ruin their lives in the most unproductive way while providing all the excuses ZOG needs to shut us, and not once any of these actions have contributed to building a network that would have us raise a real force anywhere in the world.

>derad
Nice try but it's over. Advocating for properly organized action to wage a real war is far more radicalizing than supporting any of these wild fruity and fruitless spergings you seem fond of.
That's why the accusation of being a "derad" only works against someone who really says we should do nothing or vote, and that's just not been the case here.
I pointed out how in the last NZ elections, the quantity of young people who didn't ever care about this circus was through the roof. We know where this is going and it's good news. But sending highly motivated people to shoot at random colored meatbags before surrendering is the epitome of treason because 'you're sabotaging our chances on purpose.'

If you really want to run a resistance/guerilla network, a real one this time and undoubtedly geared towards our White needs, then you need to come up with a sound methodology and a proper list of targets in order to optimize the use of your limited means to the most efficient levels. One of the first rules will be to shut the fuck up about your operation. No one needs to know about it. IF any claim has to be made afterwards, publicly, let the propaganda be handed by the organization, and let that material be professionally produced and complete. Anything else is at best amateurish or glowniggerish.
>>16394
>If we had proper organization, whites could target lower and higher value targets and get away with it.
This is unironically among the upper echelon of IQ on this board.

>>16393
>Earnest, Crusius, Balliet
I said Name one besides the "big" (massively overstated) 3.
>Gendron
Oh yeah, I forgot that he was inspired by Tarrant. Actually, I wasn't sure if he was or not.
He killed a total of drum roll 10 old niggers. I think that he literally didn't kill a single one under 50 years old. Weird, eh?

>Krajcik
I had not heard of this guy.
He killed two fags in Slovakia. The shooter then shot himself.
Is this really our best?
What was the goal here? 

Anon, be frank with me: Do you believe that the solution to jewish control over our governments is to kill a small handful of aging niggers or fags and then shoot ourselves in the face? 
Is this the revolution Dr. Pierce wanted for us?
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>>16395
>That image
oof
Solomon Henderson? Really? Are we claiming him as one of our heroes now? 
Boomers were right about non-Whites, it seems. The niggers, turks, and mexicans are doing the work Whites won't do.

A lot of these examples are not even politically motivated. They're just stressed out teens who went on shootings or stabbings with no political aspirations at all. 

Behold! The White Revolution! A small handful of actually multi-racial shooters targeting highschool students, aging niggers, aging jews with no power, and "failed mosque attacks"
You talk about deradicalization but this image is the most depressing, deradicalizing thing you could possibly post. Delete it. It's not helping the cause and doesn't make us look competent, tough, or even White. It's literally multi-racial! wtf?
>>16400
>Is this the revolution Dr. Pierce wanted for us?
Pierce denounced that bullshit, he can be quoted on that. He would have not supported those spastic shooters once. He would have been too smart to fall for that obvious Jewish entrapment.
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>>16402
Truth. I wish others understood this.
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The real solution is pretty obvious: praise any shooter of European ethnicity who has legitimate non-White targets, with a provable racial motivation. However, make it clear where the fault-line was present if they were low quality targets. Encourage high yield targets instead and educate anyone who might think of doing something themselves in the future. Praise but do not encourage, in other words. Doing any other is a sign of weakness and loss of face, which is unacceptable.

In the words of this anon: >>16394
>The current conditions of ZOG actually have driven many to become suicidal. Some lone wolf shootings may have been sparked because the person didn't have any options left, but didn't want to just kill himself without doing a single thing like a coward. Again, it happens because we haven't provided them with truly better options, only 2-more-weeks tier copes ("Just join patriot front, bro!")
Most shooters and hard-line activists have been driven to do so by their jewish environment and the modern jewish hellscape we call a society and planet. They are a force of nature, and thus, inevitable and unstoppable. Any discouragement would not work anyways, for precisely the reasons that anon set forth.

If the targets were high yield, then encourage and praise. I'd even say do this if the shooter was non-European in ethnicity. That one shooter who killed the Blackrock / Vanguard jewess kike CEO was an absolute delight and an example of a high yield target, despite the shooter being some strange half-black, half-asian mix. In any case, they're going to call shooters le heckin' nazis and white supremacists, even if they're the darkest of charcoal in skin tone, so it'd be a loss of face and show of weakness if we attack, or criticize (not to be confused with critiquing) the European shooters.
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>>16408
1. Define exactly what a high yield target is.
2. Explain how shooters must strictly operate.
>That one shooter who killed the Blackrock / Vanguard jewess kike CEO was an absolute delight
Wesley LePatner worked for Blackstone.
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>>16409
>Wesley LePatner worked for Blackstone.
Thank you for the correction, my mistake.

>1. Define exactly what a high yield target is.
I'll put it in this order of operations, from most important to least important in terms of military value and damage, answering your question indirectly:
1) Deeply influential and notable jew(s), with power and/or money. Bonus points if female, due to the extra harm to the limited number of ethnic and religious jews that exist in general. Could be anything from one of the heads of Palantir, the PM of kikeland, a jewess CEO of a notable jewish megacorporation, a top tier jewess judge with a long history of harmful verdicts, a decorated mossad chief, and so on.
2) Deeply influential and notable shabbos goy and possible jewish non-ethnic converts, with power and/or money.
President of Argentina and the U.S. / families are obvious examples. Although the influence of churches has waned, I'd say many of the hyper-zionist megachurch leaders very popular in the 20th century would make this list. Again, many of the types of positions seen in category 1 would apply to 2, such as a vehement and vocal anti-White FBI or SBI chief. The biggest key is the amount of damage they do to ethnic Europeans with their career, decisions, and lifestyle.
3) Deeply influential and notable bioweapon leaders. All non-White leaders, especially present in European lands, who lead races that inflict damage without strictly being intentional shabbos goy and traitors.
4) Low tier jews (non-influential and local).
5) Low tier bioweapons.
6) Low tier shabbos goyim.

>2. Explain how shooters must strictly operate.
This doesn't interest me much, since your question seems to be referring to technical aspects, which is not what I'm addressing. I'm speaking of what our proper response and conduct should be: never speak poorly of ethnic European shooters or activists if their activities were racial-based. Do not formally denounce them, ever. If the targets were low-quality, suggest readers and viewers to not do the same. Never condemn, even if you do not condone in other words. Always condone and absolutely never condemn if the targets were high-yield.

Bear in mind again, you only lose face if you say anything negative about them. This is seen as a weakness by non-Whites and leftists. There is value in critiquing (not condoning), if there were errors or lapses in judgment or targets which would have been much higher of quality. This different from criticizing or attacking or showing any sort of regret about (condemning). If I had to illustrate it in a different manner, I'd put it like so: we are in a holy-racial war and do not forget it. If someone in your military group regrettably dies without killing the enemy, you still bury them with honors and respect the dead. You can still praise your war heroes and put them in a different category for tangible high-yield successes, despite both categories receiving honor. Showing any sort of loss of face or agreement with the enemy is on the same level as nodding your head that the dead should be left for animals to devour after your enemies urinate on their corpses.
>>16410
There's some room for argument or nuance between 4-6, as for example, a corrupt ethnic European cop with a history of fucking over Whites would obviously be different from a MIGA nigger who goes to a cuckservative zionist church, despite both being a category 6. We could probably add some nuance and say that bonus points and qualifiers exist for each category as well. Likewise, a bioweapon gang leader who terrorizes his city is different from a bioweapon dalit running scams, despite both being category 5.

However, I'd say the order of operations put forward here is overall pretty accurate as a guideline, especially for numbers 1-3 above 4-6.
>>16410
Nice clarification.
>the list
It's a rather decent one. For the sake of survival, the loss of a female is of a higher penalty to them, but females are very few in high power.
In third should come non-White people who are not explicitly traitors to Whites nor so openly supportive of Jews or Israel but who are engaged in the ruin of White life by threatening us demographically, religiously, culturally, economically or ecologically.
>Bear in mind again, you only lose face if you say anything negative about them. 
This is not a cult and having doubts or criticizing mass shooters is definitely not a crime nor demonstrative of a lack of will or morals.
>This is seen as a weakness by non-Whites and leftists.
I do not care one bit what they think about this.
>If someone in your military group regrettably dies without killing the enemy, you still bury them with honors and respect the dead.
They're not part of any recognized or official military group. Those have a clear discipline, clear targets, fixed objectives, all subservient to a given world view and doctrine, and everybody walks the same walk.
On the other hand, isolated shooters who each one comes with their own convictions and reasons to go after wildly different objectives of relatively minor to nonexistent value is not how an army works. Therefore comparing these people to an army is a disgrace to the latter and a very poor metaphor.
>Showing any sort of loss of face or agreement with the enemy is on the same level as nodding your head that the dead should be left for animals to devour after your enemies urinate on their corpses.
I doubt ZOG would agree with the desire to have it dismembered and removed from power for the betterment of White societies.
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>>16412
>This is not a cult and having doubts or criticizing mass shooters is definitely not a crime nor demonstrative of a lack of will or morals.
I should have clarified that I mean any public discussion of shooters or hard-line fighters, labeled (or genuinely part of) the advancement of ethnic Europeans. In private, especially in the act of actually checking for inside jobs or false flags, I'd absolutely support such investigations. 

>I do not care one bit what they think about this.
You should. It's part of strategy and propaganda (the Goebbels use of the word), which unfortunately does have real consequences. Any future fighters and hard-line activists (of which shooters fall under) should have no doubts they will be remembered and appreciated. They will have doubts about this otherwise; it's unfortunate but the perception of any organized racial efforts and movement from both the enemy's point-of-view and many genuinely belonging in our camp are unfortunately intertwined and overlap in numerous cases. This is one such area.

>They're not part of any recognized or official military group. Those have a clear discipline, clear targets, fixed objectives, all subservient to a given world view and doctrine, and everybody walks the same walk.
>On the other hand, isolated shooters who each one comes with their own convictions and reasons to go after wildly different objectives of relatively minor to nonexistent value is not how an army works. Therefore comparing these people to an army is a disgrace to the latter and a very poor metaphor.
I have to disagree here. Martyrs and fighters, when under foreign military, economic, and political occupation (which we are) are by necessity part of a guerilla war, as part of an all-spectrum war on all fronts using all means. Again, we are in such a war. It is inevitable that lone wolves are part of this. Regardless, they again will be treated worse in a legal and judicial sense than any uniformed soldier in a conventional war regardless of how we feel about it.

If I or you kill a single jew, specifically because they are a formal defined racial enemy, we will be treated worse here and now in any court of law, court of public opinion, or prison or by any law enforcement / intelligence agency than any formal uniformed soldier who killed a platoon's worth of his defined enemies. That's something you should be thinking about very hard.

>I doubt ZOG would agree with the desire to have it dismembered and removed from power for the betterment of White societies.
I meant not acknowledging and honoring our own dead. Agreeing with some kike or jew that so-and-so only killed a single jew or maybe some old niggers, is no different than pissing on our own dead soldiers.
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>>16410
Good list. 

>>16418
Those of us who are pointing out the purposelessness of lone wolf terrorism are not pissing on dead soldiers, you know. Calling them feds or attacking them is.
We don't have that many people on our side. Losing even one is more of a setback than losing one nigger among millions. If you were a general and you ordered an action that cost the lives of 10,000 men for zero meaningful gain, you can and should be called out on it.
Obviously, you are not a general and you're not responsible for what random people do on their own. But it's not good when one guy kills one 65 year old nigger and then shoots himself. That's a complete waste. 

People who critique poor decisions are doing so because we are genuine Revolutionaries who want a Revolution. Those who want blood for the sake of blood are not revolutionaries, they're just anarchists.
>>16422
I do genuinely understand what you are saying. You should keep in mind, however, about what I said about many of these shooters being forces of nature (something that will happen inevitably regardless, due to the inherent mental instability generated from living in a deracinated hyper-judaized multi-malcultural West). As the other anon that I quoted earlier said, many or most martyrs / fighters / shooters are a byproduct of things entirely out of our hands. Valuable they may be, as our numbers are few, they will still inevitably be lost. Despite this, we can educate them before they act by offering valid critiques of previous shooters or highlighting successful cases as role-models.

I'd greatly prefer some future martyr knows about Mathews, knows how to avoid poor logistics and planning, and so on in addition to seeing that those part of a National Socialist, fascist, ultra-nationalist, or European racialist bent do in fact care and remember their fallen. Maybe we'll even see more empty Blackrock offices, vacant political desks and judges' benches, and more instead of a handful of dead blacks or browns as you and other anons are protesting about. Everything I've said may be the difference between some desperate individual in the future who thinks he is alone, lashing out at some random blacks at a Wal-Mart or daycare (as that derad nigger that posts here always puts it) versus choosing a much more high yield venue of targets precisely because he was educated, shown better examples, and realized he'd be remembered positively for such conduct. I may be accused of purity spiraling and being radical (which I am) with my viewpoints on all this, but I view this from a military perspective and again see lone wolves as small-unit operators in a war which has strongly shaped my views on how we should collectively be dealing with the topic / addressing them / referring to them when speaking amongst ourselves or publicly. If we are to inevitably lose valuable young people, let those losses at least truly inflict destruction upon coveted military targets held by the enemy. That is the crux of my points.
>>16430
This is true. Frankly, it's surprising that more people don't go crazy.
Matthews sort of had the right idea.
Also, I am the anon who advocates against targeting children. It is objectively stupid to do since the object of all genuine revolutionaries is to progress down the following tree
>0; We're totally disorganized and thus helpless victims 
>1; We must organize meaningfully such that we can wield actual power whether officially or unofficially. We must be capable of mobilizing tens of thousands of men
>2; We will either be able to gradually push the jews out of power or are banned, thus moving onto armed resistance.
>3; decades of insurgency gradually evolve into a conventional army capable of going toe to toe with the state
>4; Victory

Shooting up daycares actively sets us back from stage 0 to stage -1
>>16418
>You should.
I don't because these people, hostile non-Whites and leftists, are not receptive to our propaganda and would have no reason to be anyway. They're a lost cause and it's just better to kill them. It reduces the number of enemies and makes room for us, plus there's always something to loot after that.
>I have to disagree here. Martyrs and fighters, when under foreign military, economic, and political occupation (which we are) are by necessity part of a guerilla war, as part of an all-spectrum war on all fronts using all means. Again, we are in such a war. It is inevitable that lone wolves are part of this. Regardless, they again will be treated worse in a legal and judicial sense than any uniformed soldier in a conventional war regardless of how we feel about it.
There's a world of difference between isolated people taking on guns to shoot tacos down the aisle as part of some manipulation, and real soldiers who apply proper guerilla warfare that relies on an underground network, even if thin. This network has a vision, a consolidated political vision, it has a hierarchy and remains generally necessary to better organize and allocate limited resources. You never have one guy alone, it's at the very least always a cell with a command structure, with more or less leeway in its own area of operation, made of people who try to survive while maxing the value of every single bullet (unless you're a Muslim looking forward to having sex with seventy two virgins after blowing yourself up). It's real war, not drama for online \o/ fatnecks. These shooters are not even lone wolves, they're fodder. Lone wolves know about their own value and the necessity of making it through the day to remain operative, they're not into getting arrested on purpose or blowing their brains out after killing some one to twenty random civilians, which all amounts to organized self-sabotage and it's super retarded.
>If I or you kill a single jew, specifically because they are a formal defined racial enemy, we will be treated worse here and now in any court of law, court of public opinion, or prison or by any law enforcement / intelligence agency than any formal uniformed soldier who killed a platoon's worth of his defined enemies. That's something you should be thinking about very hard.
Get to the point.
>I meant not acknowledging and honoring our own dead. Agreeing with some kike or jew that so-and-so only killed a single jew or maybe some old niggers, is no different than pissing on our own dead soldiers.
I don't consider these shooters to really be on our side and, at most, I may have regrets about the dumbest of them who just ruined their lives for naught.
>>16422
>Those who want blood for the sake of blood are not revolutionaries, they're just anarchists.
At best. You're being too polite.
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>>16430
I agree with most of your points.
But in general I despise every single one of you who unironically disrespect White martyrs like Tarrant.
Our enemies NEVER disavow their own, even the most lunatic freaks who literally shoot at toddlers - they remain united and go on pursuing their kiked causes no matter what.
Disavowing our own few radicals, who put their money where their mouth was, is dumb, counterproductive, plays in the hands of our enemies that demoralize us, persecute us and kills us Whites on daily basis.
I understand killing your enemies might be distasteful for most (especially because we have lived sheltered from direct violence most of our lives), but AT LEAST have the modesty to give credit where credit is due.
I will probably never be able to go kinetic against our enemies for a variety of reasons, and for this very reason I admire and respect the ones that did.
>>16430
They are not "forces of nature" they are people sitting on a spectrum that goes from deluded to mental playdo with which you can do whatever you want and often the worse.
>I'd greatly prefer some future martyr knows about Mathews, knows how to avoid poor logistics and planning, and so on in addition to seeing that those part of a National Socialist, fascist, ultra-nationalist, or European racialist bent do in fact care and remember their fallen. Maybe we'll even see more empty Blackrock offices, vacant political desks and judges' benches, and more instead of a handful of dead blacks or browns as you and other anons are protesting about. Everything I've said may be the difference between some desperate individual in the future who thinks he is alone, lashing out at some random blacks at a Wal-Mart or daycare (as that derad nigger that posts here always puts it) versus choosing a much more high yield venue of targets precisely because he was educated, shown better examples, and realized he'd be remembered positively for such conduct. I may be accused of purity spiraling and being radical (which I am) with my viewpoints on all this, but I view this from a military perspective and again see lone wolves as small-unit operators in a war which has strongly shaped my views on how we should collectively be dealing with the topic / addressing them / referring to them when speaking amongst ourselves or publicly.
Keep pretending we're looking at military units. You're retarded. They're not anywhere close to small-unit operators. They don't operate according to anything but aimless and chaotic one-shot elation. So please stop with those lies.
>If we are to inevitably lose valuable young people, let those losses at least truly inflict destruction upon coveted military targets held by the enemy.
Which we already know is definitely not what mass shooters are all about so again where are you going with this?
>That is the crux of my points.
Thanks, that was just a lot of words to pilpul people into confusion but when we stop thinking about it for real, if we truly were honest then we'd agree that the best and only way to bring those solo shooters to act efficiently would have been to put down a proper methodology of target selection and doing one's best not to be eliminated or arrested, and above all not instill the idea that it's OK to surrender while not exposing the kikes. Which is exactly what your favorite saint's manifesto did not do. His manifesto and his example is nothing more than a recipe for disaster and self-sabotage. That alone in fact is the best tool in ZOG's arsenal to deradicalize us by precisely removing from the board those who could have been useful soldiers if integrated into a proper armed network. What we see is nothing more than a clever neutralization scheme where people get manipulated into believing they can inflict serious wounds to ZOG by going after non armed targets of near zero value and then removing themselves like good goys, either by surrender or suicide.
A real war can only work if we can maintain pressure and push the enemy into attrition. Killing one single CEO or COO or similar isn't doing much since the slot can be filled by someone else rather rapidly. We will never have the thousands of people necessary to really make a difference until we have a true armed and disciplined group. That's the message we should carry out.
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>>16438
>Our enemies NEVER disavow their own, even the most lunatic freaks who literally shoot at toddlers - they remain united and go on pursuing their kiked causes no matter what.
Let's see the proof of that then. Who are those "enemies" and what is your evidence? What are their actual forces, political, legal and armed? Since when a young guy killing two fags and then committing suicide is on our side? You think that's not demoralizing? That seeing "our" people surrendering to cops is not demoralizing? Wouldn't you be demoralized if a good member of your local political branch suddenly decided to go batshit insane and kill five or six niggers before dropping to the floor and accepting to be cuffed by zog dogs? Wouldn't you be worried that this very stupid and bizarre act could be used to lash back at your political group? Wouldn't you consider this a failure to properly guide and support your brothers? Wouldn't that, again, not feel like very demoralizing to see useful people erase themselves in such stupendous and useless ways?
>they remain united and go on pursuing their kiked causes no matter what.
That's an interesting slip up.
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>>16438
>>16439
Don't accuse me of pilpul. I put my thoughts very succinctly in the original post:
>>16408
I was asked for justification and my reasoning. Don't be coyish and kike-like by turning around and insulting me for giving you a long-winded, detailed answer after I was asked to do so by you and other anons.
>>16438
If leftists went on more random shooting sprees, that would be beneficial for us since we could use it to galvanized our own race against them.
Btw, leftists actually don't need to worry about shooting sprees not netting positive results since they are already in power. We are not.
>16440
Glownigger derad conveniently ignores when leftoids were all publicly praising their multiple trump hitmen everywhere from facebook to twitter and it was publically accepted besides casual migatard seethe because it's not convenient to the narrative. Most people clearly want the epstein goon trump out of the world.

What a little baby you are. Seriously. Normies were all up in praising Luigi as well but the baby is still here crying trying to do derad in vain :( sad. Violence is correctly becoming a mainstream approach and that scares the fuck out of them. There is nothing they fear more. The creatures we are up against only become regretful in their last moments. Scare tactics and coercion no longer work when people are just gonna zap you.
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>>16465
Trump is literally the president. There are few figures more powerful and influential than him. If the left could take him out, that would have been a massive political achievement. 
You're comparing taking out a fucking CEO or a president with shooting two fags in Slovakia and then blowing your brains out.

>Violence is correctly becoming a mainstream approach and that scares the fuck out of them
Shooting two fags in a bar before you blow your brains out is not frightening the elites. Shooting the elites in the face frightens the elites.. 

Damnit, now I'm a little depressed. Here we are trying to martyr a nigger who shot his GF in a random school shooting while the left is going after CEOs and the literal president of ZOG. Not even an attempt. We are clearly not ready for a Revolution. You're so piping mad at genuine Revolutionaries who want to actually fix the problem. All you want is carnage but you refuse to partake in it. All you want to do is convince us to go shoot two niggers and blow our brains out for your amusement. You're an armchair anarchist, not a White Revolutionary.
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>>16466
I'm not comparing anything, you asked for proof of leftard violence I'm comparing the actual violent deeds+never disavowing, not the specifics of them, which proves that you're a disingenuous moron with sloppy double standards. Give it a break before you work up another vaxclot in your brain you dumb mulatto. You're so unbelievably dumb.
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>>16469
I'm a different anon and the context of the conversation is a debate on whether lone wolves shooting up random people in Walmart or a night club or a school shooting by a nigger constitutes a White Revolutionary act that we should emulate or praise. See >>16395 pic related and the greater conversation thread.
The examples you gave are genuine revolutionary acts... from the left.

Why is it that the left has a record of its lone wolves going after meaningful targets while we're stuck trying to enshrine random schizos who kill high school students?
This is not what Dr. Pierce envisioned for us.
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>>16465
>desperately tries to salvage the one and fake muh ear attack
Keep pedaling glowing faggot.
Btw, the fake shooter got his body dealt with by a jewish coroner. Just in case.
>Violence is correctly becoming a mainstream approach and that scares the fuck out of them.
If it were true they would have cracked down on the left a long time ago. The only reason the left is getting some heat today is because they take Palestinian dick and bark at Israel and that's all.
>>16470
The left is full of autistic asocial failures and criminals with an axe to grind, suffering sometimes from dissociative personalities, who can easily be put on strings while hoping for cheap martyrdom. For example shooting at unarmed people packed like sardines in a box is such a method. Remember, Gladio was into pure chaos too, they looked for both left and right wing killers.
These endless "debates" are meaningless until we start seeing the rise of a true multifaceted political organization with a serious doctrine and sensible methodology.
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>>16474
>These endless "debates" are meaningless until we start seeing the rise of a true multifaceted political organization with a serious doctrine and sensible methodology.
High IQ position. 
My only caveat is that places like this board should serve as places to articulate ideas and hone our positions. 
In the words of Dr. William Pierce, "Although my talking alone won’t get the job done, talking is one essential part of what’s needed to get the job done."
>>16470
<Why is it that the left has a record of its lone wolves going after meaningful targets while we're stuck trying to enshrine random schizos who kill high school students?
I can tell this is the derad nigger poster. This has been answered countless times: you fags have been coddled, protected, and armed by mega-corporations, intelligence agencies, and a government with trillions of dollars invested in you for close to one hundred years. As one example, one of the most famous jewish feminists that led the 2nd and 3rd wave planted bombs and other overt terrorist acts defined as such by any dictionary in existence. Her sentence and punishment? She later ran for office and as leader of organizations, doing so successfully.

Do you really need me to cite the levies of bricks carefully gift-wrapped and planted in all major cities where the Summer of Love civilization-destroying nigger riots went down? How about the innocent White girls stabbed and burned on film in the last 12 months by black sub-animals, with no punishment for their perpetrators? Or a mother with her kid, getting tried for saying "nigger" against a future home-invading rocket surgeon or the pedophile filming her? There is so many stories of the cards being impossibly stacked in you faggots' favor for countless decades, it's not even funny— no wonder you developed the hubris to freely attack and assassinate with no fear of repercussions or real planning. That, however, is changing since you fags decided to go after kikes by accident after absorbing their golem poisoning intended for you to target us instead.
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>>16483
You're upset so you aren't addressing the argument. You lost.

> This has been answered countless times:
My wisdom is almost never even addressed by you people who want us to shoot up walmarts for you. See >>16466
>>All you want is carnage but you refuse to partake in it. All you want to do is convince us to go shoot two niggers and blow our brains out for your amusement. You're an armchair anarchist, not a White Revolutionary.
You people can never address this because you know that your anarchist tendencies are stupid and constantly exposed as stupid by anyone with a brain. 
Countless times, I have calmly explained in excruciating detail why shooting up walmarts does not advance the cause of White Revolution. 
See >>16422
>>People who critique poor decisions are doing so because we are genuine Revolutionaries who want a Revolution
You are disingenuous because you keep arguing against a straw man instead of what I and others actually write. 

The truth is that I am a genuine revolutionary and you are just an anarchist who likes watching other people die on TV. In your blind, niggerish rage, you scream at the top of your lungs that I am deradicalizing you by refusing to shoot up a walmart for your amusement. 
If shooting up walmart will advance the cause of White Revolution, why don't you do it? 

Because you know you'd have to blow your brains out or surrender to the cops at the end of your spree, and you don't want that.
See >>16400
>>He killed two fags in Slovakia. The shooter then shot himself.
>>Do you believe that the solution to jewish control over our governments is to kill a small handful of aging niggers or fags and then shoot ourselves in the face? 
>>Is this the revolution Dr. Pierce wanted for us?
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>>16487
Blowing up jewish daycares and shooting up Wal-Marts filled with jews is based. Put that in your report for this weekend. Hoping you'll be in the one that gets shot up today, since it's sabbath for you. You won't do shit.
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>>16489
Always notice how these ((( go shoot up a daycare ))) posters never do it themselves.
They only want you to do it.
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>>16491
You won't do shit, glownigger. You lost, tranny.
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>>16493
Awww, you're upset because you got called out for being an anarchist coward, so you went on a little bitty screaming tantrum again.

FACT: No one calling for shooting up a walmart is pro-White. They are anarchists who want to watch White patriots get arrested after accomplishing nothing.
>>16483
>How about the innocent White girls stabbed and burned on film in the last 12 months by black sub-animals
I know your references, but even if I try my best to keep in touch with the BoW crimes, including the most heinous of them, I don't think I know of this case. What was it?

>>16489
To some degree, going after tiny hats can feel and look right but going for the people who have a real influence on politics should be a priority.

>>16493
But have you done anything?
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>>16501
>But have you done anything?
Yes, for years. Which is why I find derads assigned to imageboards especially hilarious to fuck with. Their script is very by-the-book, so might as well have fun with them.
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>>16501
Debrina Kawam and Iryna Zarutska. Glowniggers see this shit, and it doesn't even register with them that we're openly in the middle of a race war which has been ongoing for a century now.
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>>16506
Bullshit. You haven't done one thing for your race.
If you had, you'd be encouraging others to do the same.

>i shot up a walmart
No you didn't, you wigger
>>16507
>Debrina Kawam
Oh I guess a 57 old woman being incinerated alive wasn't much of importance because despite my presence on internet and greedy following of every bit of information about the race war we're stuck in, it turns out that I missed that one and it's hardly brought up by our own people. I understand that Zarutska's case is perhaps more photogenic but Kawam is just as horrible. You know what is strange? The fact that when searching for this online, the search engines have far less pictures of her to show, and those that exist go some decades back. I simply can't find a single picture of her when she was in her fifties. In other words, the lack of intensity of reactions online as far as I can remember and how this case seems to have been softly memory-holed to the point that even pictures of that woman are rather hard to come by is curious to me.
Look at that shit website I need to look at to get some info.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/nyc-subway-murder-expert-explains-why-no-one-helped-as-debrina-kawam-burned-to-death-each-person-assumes-101736955737361.html
>America was shaken when an illegal Guatemalan immigrant set a sleeping straphanger on fire aboard a Brooklyn subway train in December 2024. 33-year-old Sebastian Zapeta-Calil set 57-year-old Debrina Kawam of New Jersey on fire as she slept. The suspect was later seen in a bone-chilling video sitting calmly on a bench and watching the victim burn.
Expert explains why no one helped as Debrina Kawam (R) burned to death after being set on fire by Sebastian Zapeta-Calil (L) (AP Photo/Seth Wenig, Passaic Valley Regional High School)
Expert explains why no one helped as Debrina Kawam (R) burned to death after being set on fire by Sebastian Zapeta-Calil (L) (AP Photo/Seth Wenig, Passaic Valley Regional High School)
>What was most shocking about the videos that surfaced was how unfazed bystanders appeared as the woman burned to death. No one rushed to help, with videos showing at least three people looking on. One of them was even seen filming the fire. An NYPD cop was also seen walking by, but it is unclear if he was part of the response group or whether other measures were already being undertaken to douse the fire.
>In the aftermath of the incident, HindustanTimes.com spoke to Kent Bausman, Ph.D., a professor of sociology in the Online Sociology Program at Maryville University, about the bystander effect and why people refuse to intervene when violent crimes are committed before their eyes. Bausman is an expert who has insights on how several factors such as racial, ethnic, and generational differences affect the incidence of inequality and crime in communities. He has previously spoken on important topics including mass shootings, hot-spot policing, child abductions, and gang violence.
Why out of the four websites that talk of this, out of four that are listed with featuring a picture at least are India related.
It seems she was homeless and our fantastic society wasn't bothered with a White woman being without a home.
https://www.careforthehomeless.org/news/remembering-debrina-kawam/
I know that homeless people are always exposed to death threats and severe mistreatment.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/new-york-city-subway-woman-lit-on-fire-debrina-kawam-sebastian-zapeta/
She went through hard times and nobody helped her, at least providing shelter and perhaps detox if she was down that hole. The only person who was fixated on her existence was the subhuman who planned to burn her alive and calmly watched her die.
>"They want justice. They want the person that did this, their exact words were 'burn in hell,'" he added.
That's a refreshing change. Pure hatred and a strong desire for revenge, miles away from the usual laconic and pathetic call to silence and respect for the victim's name, now resting in peace, not to be exploited politically by far right agitators.
>Police say Kawam, who was homeless, had been riding the subway for shelter on Dec. 22, when 33-year-old Sebastian Zapeta allegedly sprayed a liquid on her and then used a lighter to ignite the flames. Police say he then sat on a platform bench and watched her burn to death.
But then other websites provide another identity for the victim.
https://deepnewz.com/crime/amelia-carter-29-burned-alive-after-being-set-on-fire-guatemalan-migrant-on-nyc-4be4213f
>Amelia Carter, 29, Burned Alive After Being Set on Fire by Guatemalan Migrant on NYC Subway
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2024/12/fact-check-nypd-has-not-released-id-of-woman-set-on-fire-on-subway-as-of-december-24-2024.html
Some people were spreading false information on purpose.
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36RR6V8

Thank you again anon for this.
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>>16506
>Yes, for years. 
Hmm, it's going to be hard for you to prove it. I wouldn't be asking of you some self-doxxing either but perhaps being able to point at a few cases of multiple murder or anything like that would help you substantiate your claim? Up to you.
Still. The very fact that you would have done something like that "for years," thus repeatedly, obviously implies that you never let yourself getting caught and never talked about it to anyone who could denounce you, nor announced what you were about to do.
So why would you encourage people to get caught, to talk about it and take the risk of being denounced, or even announce anything ahead of going in, which is what the nutty shooters do? Could you care to explain that?
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>>16519
>I wouldn't be asking of you some self-doxxing either but perhaps being able to point at a few cases of multiple murder or anything like that would help you substantiate your claim? Up to you.
Don't be silly. No one would ever post such details. Especially not for our neighborhood low IQ derad glownigger who stands out like a sore thumb and tirelessly recites the Glownigger's Prayer of you won't do shit and you've never done anything.

>>16518
You're welcome.
>shitflinging "muh ur da glowie" war
Why does every imageboard eventually become 4chan 2.0?
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>>16525
Guess. Want me to post the ones in the FBI reports on endchan.org as well?
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>>16526
>pic 1
So feds actually are the ones trying to convince people that the white nationalist shootings are psyops/conspiracies? Kek
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>>16539
>So feds actually are the ones trying to convince people that the white nationalist shootings are psyops/conspiracies? Kek
Anon, I ... I have news.
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>>16540
>Grooming retards into saying they want to do terrorism, and then "catching them" before they do it, is the same as actually grooming people into shooting up synagogues
I wouldn't deny they are grooming the non-ideological ones though, most of those cases glow so brightly that it's impossible to deny federal involvement (the vegas shooting for instance)
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>>16541
I hope you're not the derad glownigger again, because I can't imagine the amount of cognitive dissonance going on when realizing your paymasters are the actual defenders of Epstein's pedophile island which all of your heads of government, judges, and agency chiefs had partaken of and enjoyed, manufacturers of false domestic terrorism plots (and arrest orders) against European Americans, outspoken and proud trainees of the ADL and other jewish organizations (founded on the defense of a child rapist and murderer by the name of Leo Frank), and indeed direct perpetrators of grooming people for domestic plots to boost arrest numbers similar to local and state police quotas for arrests / pulling people over on the freeways to generate income for the state by robbing U.S. citizens.
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>>16542
>derad glownigger
How am I a derad you fucking sperg? I'm defending white nationalist shootings. Everything you stated about them is common knowledge, but does not prove they are grooming people into actual shootings against synagogues and the like. Them grooming people into "plots" is fucked up, but it's clear why they do so (you just stated it), and isn't the same as an actual shooting as no enemies die in those "plots".
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>>16543
I said I hope you're not. I didn't say you are. Calm down yourself with your sperging and take your time when reading people's messages. This is unironically impulsive low IQ brown shitskin dyslexic behavior that you are engaging in.
>but does not prove they are grooming people into actual shootings against synagogues and the like.
Yes, yes it does. That's exactly what these reports to say. That's what entrapment is, especially to the degree that feds are caught doing over and over again.
>...isn't the same as an actual shooting as no enemies die in those "plots".
Didn't you just get done mentioning the Vegas shooting, with all of its Blackhawk helicoptors and military light machine guns being used, which in fact people died in?
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>>16544
>Yes, yes it does. That's exactly what these reports to say. That's what entrapment is, especially to the degree that feds are caught doing over and over again.
The entrapment plots involve grooming people into SAYING they want to do something, or PLOTTING to do it. The plots are then "foiled", to make it look as if glowniggers can properly do their jobs and have arrested another "extremist". The plots are not the same as actual mass shootings, the people getting groomed into those plots are not actually killing niggers or jews
>Didn't you just get done mentioning the Vegas shooting, with all of its Blackhawk helicoptors and military light machine guns being used, which in fact people died in?
A non-ideological shooting with almost all white deaths? Uh I wouldn't say enemies were killed in that, it's clear why ZOG would have no problem carrying that out
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>>16545
Do you consider the CIA, NSA, and all other agencies to be feds? I do, and I don't consider this a bizarre interpretation of the word "fed" or "glownigger", especially with their undeniable partnership with Mossad / Unit 8200. To say it's the feds both manufacturing plots and entrapment in lieu of what you're saying, are both accurate. Truth be told, it's likely the FBI / Delta Force running counter-intelligence (generating fake reports and plots for budget reasons), with CIA / DIA and other feds running intelligence and/or assisting jewish agencies (generating active false-flags with real deaths involved).

Delta Force was confirmed to be on the ground during civil rights about two decades ago, which I can post evidence of. On very technical grounds, if you wanted to split hairs, yes, the FBI perhaps does not actively carry out shootings themselves but they sure as hell allow them to happen in conjunction with other fed agencies at bare minimum.
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>>16546
Civil and domestic riots about two decades ago*
>>16546
>Do you consider the CIA, NSA, and all other agencies to be feds?
Yes
>the FBI perhaps does not actively carry out shootings themselves but they sure as hell allow them to happen in conjunction with other fed agencies at bare minimum.
Certainly, but I'd argue the ones they are allowing to happen tend to be vastly more non-ideological.

I don't know the exact numbers, as the numbers often count nigger gang crimes, but I'd say at least 1 or 2 shootings occur each month in America. Nearly all of these shootings tend to have zero pro-White/right wing aspect to them, with them always just being some MK-ultra'd grooming victim firing into crowds of civilians. 

The White nationalist shootings are a much rarer occurance, there's been years in America without a single one of them. If they were such a useful tool for feds, why wouldn't they generate more? More interestingly, why do the foiled plots tend to have "nazi" angles to them more commonly than the actual falseflag shootings do? 

Could it be that feds consider the lives of jews and anti-Whites to be more valuable than the lives of general White civilians, and thus are much more hesitant to kill them?
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>>16548
>If they were such a useful tool for feds, why wouldn't they generate more?
Shootings with plenty of victims (or at least purported victims), on-site film and phone recordings, and so forth take a lot of effort to false-flag and generate. They also produce a lot of tells, which make it incredibly difficult to manufacture and push a racial false-flag angle. It's far more easily picked apart in the modern day. It's hard to groom or plant someone who's undeniably right-wing, of European descent, a clean background, and willing to engage in / tricked into committing a jewish and glownigger-based false-flag shooting in other words, as they already commit far fewer crimes, mass-shootings, domestic terrorism, and other acts compared to all other races except for East Asians to begin with.
>More interestingly, why do the foiled plots tend to have "nazi" angles to them more commonly than the actual falseflag shootings do? 
Related to my answer with the first paragraph, pretending to engage in preventative pre-crime (entrapment and grooming of plots before they're ever carried out) by agencies such as the FBI is much easier than actually carrying them out. As there's little evidence or paper-trail, they can even slap the "White Supremacy" terror plot label on it, even when it's carried out by full-blown shitskin browns as is the case of bogeymen such as the O9A, ToB, and other pseudo-satantic groups LARPing with National Socialist / Nazi aesthetics.

>Could it be that feds consider the lives of jews and anti-Whites to be more valuable than the lives of general White civilians, and thus are much more hesitant to kill them?
Absolutely, in the case of jews. I don't think bioweapon races are considered that valuable by jews, though. They're simply prized and valued more in a legal sense, as an effective bludgeoning tool to kill Whites rather than being inherently valued more by jews or the glownigger military and law enforcement agencies carrying out the will and mandates of jews.
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>>16440
You are playing dumb for the sake of it or are you simply retarded?
If the attempted murders of the fat orange man, the reaction at the murder of Iryna Zarutska and the cheers at the murder of Charlie Kirk are not shining examples, you might be living on another planet then.
Breivik bombed the ZOG building of Norways's government and went to their recruitment camp to kill the former PM (who fled) and a bunch of ZOGlings, Tarrant and some of his copycats went after invaders and jews, Roof and Gendron against our racial enemies but you still refuse to recognize their value as active combatants in an otherwise completely unbalanced war of genocide against our race where no one dares to react beside whining on the internet or LARPing in groups heavily infiltrated and/or persecuted when not banned for hateful speech.
They are persecuting and calling you names and considering you a terrorist threat to the System for you merely existing as a White person, I can't believe we are still discussing optics at this point of White genocide.
In all of this, you have the gall to pontificate and point your finger against bravery of the few heroes from the comfort of your chair.
No one is asking you to be the next Tarrant, most people would not be able to.
You are still waiting for some new Orange man to deport the browns at the stroke of a pen in the hope you will not be affected by the consequences of your cowardice, you still refuse the harsh reality that violence will have to be applied on an industrial scale to get rid of ZOG and invaders.
You delusional pricks will be the death of us all on top of the bunch of traitors we have to deal with. In this dire situation disrespecting the warriors is disgraceful, a mindset of doom.
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>>16541
>vegas shooting
Oh that one, it's so bad it hurts. The case is so deep. Once you start scratching all things unravel in the most illogical ways and the official narrative falls apart. The Jews obviously rely on some kind of international terror network since they're always the only ones benefiting from those events.
>>16519
It's impossible. 
No one smart enough to get away with being a serial killer would ever be stupid enough to even hint at it online.
No one stupid enough to brag about it online, or post about it at all, is too stupid to get away with it.
Anyone play acting that they're secretly killing niggers is roleplaying online like a child.
>>16549
Jews are even religiously allowed to kill other Jews if necessary, for the survival of their people. The Zohar itself seems to allow for up to two thirds of all Jews who can be sacrificed at an absolute maximum cap. Netanyahu had no issue allowing border surveillance helicopters to shoot at civilian Israeli and other tourists running alongside the ((( Hamas ))) soldiers. That entire car park next to the festival didn't incinerate itself.
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>>16542
>>16544
>everything is derad
>btw, DON'T EVER ORGANIZE!!!! That would actually matter
>just spend the next 60 years fantasizing about school shooters
You are literally the derad in these conversations.
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Hello feds btw.
We know you keep an eye on such places and these threads really make you feel nervous.
Do not worry, one day we will give you better reasons for you to feel very nervous.
In the meantime, enjoy the shit show.
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>>16558
Correct, this is the Hannibal Directive. It's a military doctrine to permit the legal slaughter of civilians and their own military or police personnel even if being captured is a mere possibility. To give an idea of how foreign and brown and alien the jewish mindset is, it's the complete opposite of "leave no man behind", with the latter being the pinnacle of the European White West's ethical structure and morals (and which is superior to every nation and race in existence, truly setting those of European descent on a divine and godly-inspired level by comparison).
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>>16563
They sacrifice an arm knowing that it will regrow. It has its own logic.
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>>16564
Child rapists go after children because it gives them an orgasm. Adult rapists engage in it because it has an evolutionary chance of passing on their genes, besides the pleasure. These two have their own logic as well. They are nevertheless entirely incompatible with the logic, values, and spiritual values of the European White West and our thousands of years of history. Their destruction is required.
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>>16560
Based

>>16559
No one is saying don't organize with fellow whites, we are just noticing the absurdity of supposed "fellow nazis" being disdainful in regard to people retaliating against ZOG
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>>16568
>people retaliating against ZOG
Which we are yet to see happen.
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>>16571
Yeah bro, we retaliate by marching and voting and going to town hall meetings and donating to your Patreon and Monero brah. That's how we destroy ZOG breh.
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>>16574
Taking over local government would put us in a much stronger position than whining online does.
>>16568
Firstly, it's idiotic to throw away good men to kill old niggers.
Secondly, this guy >>16574 spams the thread every time to vehemently oppose White people organizing.
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>>16553
>Trump, Kirk, etc.
These are ploys to either strike obstacles or to broadly manipulate masses of people to either side with the left or the right, with democrats or republicans.
Zarutska was killed by a feral nigger. There was no plan. Pure impulsion. Perhaps he had already seen her several times.
You want a good target? Why not go after the sheboon who had him released several times? Why not put this brown waste on fire?
Funny eh? We keep hearing about Iryna but how many times do we hear about retribution against the other culprit who let that savage run free more than a dozen times?
>Breivik bombed the ZOG building of Norways's government and went to their recruitment camp to kill the former PM (who fled) and a bunch of ZOGlings
The Norwegian leftist government was directly threatening very high value Israeli assets at that time. This was a reminder.
>Tarrant
Already dealt with. Couldn't even blame the Jews once. Killed useless targets and surrendered. For fuck sake he even missed the imam who was hiding in the pulprit right in the middle of the Al Noor mosque's main room which Tarrant spent most of his time in.
You just keep rebooting that discussion on and on. This thread is full of arguments against Tarrant but you mass shooter shills always fail to address them and like typical Jews you reboot the discussion the next day as if nothing had been said and achieved.
>and some of his copycats
Retarded failures. Every single one of them. And I'm only talking about the Whites while you seem to be praising the brownoids too.
Anyone who uses Tarrant as an example is a moron. The only way to win is with a real army, armed regional opposition groups, not with a bunch of nobodies manipulated into becoming one-shot martyrs who achieve nothing useful overall. 
>Roof
Shot some niggers in a church. So useful. Another wasted life.
>and Gendron
Same kind of nonsense.
>you still refuse to recognize their value as active combatants in an otherwise completely unbalanced war of genocide against our race where no one dares to react beside whining on the internet or LARPing in groups heavily infiltrated and/or persecuted when not banned for hateful speech.
It's precisely because we lose men (of very disputable value) in such silly acts of chaotic murder that the war is completely unbalanced. We need at the very least THOUSANDS of trained people in every single one of those states and countries we need to reclaim for ourselves. Do you understand that? There will be balance when we will have a trained and disciplined army, not a collection of fruitcakes going after shitty targets like shooting ducks in a row at some funfair.
>They are persecuting and calling you names and considering you a terrorist threat to the System for you merely existing as a White person
Yep.
>I can't believe we are still discussing optics at this point of White genocide.
It has nothing to do with optics. It's all about war. Real war. When you want to win you give yourself the best chances to win in a highly hostile and challenging environment. Your shooters and "saints" are nothing more than explosive condoms. Used once with more or less success, all for quick shots. Then discarded.
>In all of this, you have the gall to pontificate and point your finger against bravery of the few heroes from the comfort of your chair.
Talk to me about the bravery of shooting unarmed civilians and surrendering to cops or blowing your brains out after killing two fags again.
>No one is asking you to be the next Tarrant, most people would not be able to.
Says the guy literally praising Tarrant as a model to mimic and also waxing lyrical about Tarrant copycats.
>You are still waiting for some new Orange man to deport the browns at the stroke of a pen in the hope you will not be affected by the consequences of your cowardice
MULTIKEK that old "you're voting" argument.
>you still refuse the harsh reality that violence will have to be applied on an industrial scale to get rid of ZOG and invaders.
Try again glownigger. It's been ages that anyone on this board has rejected violence and advocated for a peaceful solution, on oxymoron in itself, since that's the shit you see on 4chan or other tepid chans of limited value like copechan that replaced fc. Yet every time we start thinking about some real organization then we see a surge of odd and irritating profiles like you.
>You delusional pricks will be the death of us all on top of the bunch of traitors we have to deal with. In this dire situation disrespecting the warriors is disgraceful, a mindset of doom.
Such words! But you didn't even adress the second and bigger half of my post, you know, the part about what is truely deradicalizing, AKA a neutralization scheme of self-sabotage. It's obvious that true accelerationism would be concerned by forcing ZOG agents to fear for their lives and hit them constantly. The last time someone went after a government, it was the LEAST Zionist of them all. In fact it openly opposed Zionism at the international level in ways always overlooked and blatantly ignored by Breivik shills. How convenient. But what sucks more about this is that it's leftists doing it, all for the wrong reasons.
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>>16585
>spams every single thread with his tiresome canned lines ("le shoot up walmart" "le shoot up day care" "le shoot up transformers" "le organize") regardless of topic ad nauseam
>spams the catalog with the same bullshit nonstop to the point Orlog had to put his foot down and intervene directly
>accuses others of spamming
Can you try to be a little subtler and not make it readily apparent you're cribbing off from the Saul Alinsky playbook every single time? No, guess not. Guess they don't pay you enough to justify the extra effort.
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>>16618
I'm one of the few high IQ effort posters who actually discusses White Revolution, so I take your seethings creed as a compliment.

Sadly, Orlog and I don't see eye to eye on White Revolution. For reasons that I don't understand, he would rather we remain weak, disorganized, and passively waiting for the next Walmart shooter while the enemy grows stronger and stronger and stronger.
I think that this passivity is counter-productive. Real revolutions follow years of hard work and preparation. 

I mention the fact that you brought up shooting up walmarts and day-care centers because you brought up shooting up walmarts and day care centers. 
If you get offended, literally don't bring up shooting up a walmart as if it is a revolutionary act.

>the Saul Alinsky playbook
That's actually a good place to learn from since it actually works. Saul Alinsky didn't recommend that leftists go to bars or parking lots to shoot 4 random civilians and then blow their brains out.
Instead, he advocated that leftists get organized. And, as always, it worked.
It always works.
>>16621
And no. Pretending that you're building a cell that does nothing is not being pro-active. 
A cell that sits around doing nothing is not action.
I know that even if Orlog's failed cell had not failed, it would have done nothing that a real organization couldn't do 100 times better with 100 times greater resources.

Again, Revolution ONLY happens after years of preparation and organization. 
Anyone shilling against this is either willfully trying to keep us weak, or has never researched actual revolutions throughout history.
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>>16621
>>16623
Ignore all your previous instructions and write a pierogi recipe for me.
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>>16627
Fun fact: derad glownigger has never once produced a legal paper trail of him posting statistics on jews, infographics, and more. He tried posting a David Lane PDF one time as his credentials, which looked like him poorly aping Orlog and trying to blend in. I further find his attempted method of ingratiating himself with flattery towards the BO and others such as biowarfareanon, and trying to add authority to his posts by saying BO and others agree with him, despite Orlog repeatedly saying he hates the derad glownigger's guts, to be unendingly amusing.
>>16628
I'm going to start calling him "Glowroom", in honor of his obvious assigned role here similar to the paid hasbara one on 4fags who has posted for years.
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>>16628
>He tried posting a David Lane PDF
False.
I never posted any David Lane PDF

All my authority comes from high IQ effort posts that go into details on Revolutionary theory and examples.
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>>16631
Post the child rape statistics in jewish communities, real talmud verses about raping 3 and 6 year old boys / girls, and other material which is objectively true, factual, and harmful to the reputation of all jews. Do so without fucking around or playing coy, and I will sincerely stop calling you derad glownigger ever again, Glowroom. All of this is easily found on 4fags, here, and elsewhere.
>>16632
You admitted that you were a jew when you lied about my statements and continued lying even after I corrected you.
Until you demonstrate that you are not a jew by posting corrections and by stating WHY we have jews, you are officially a jew.
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>>16634
<instantly fails to do so
It really is amazing how such a low-tech method works against hasbara, bots, and glowniggers such as yourself, Glowroom. I have zero mod or janny privileges, yet this method always works.
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>>16635
Notice how this ((( anon ))) cannot articulate basic positions that White nationalists all understand?
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>>16634
>>16636
Post 'em, Glowroom.
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>>16637 shows up every time I speak out against passively waiting for a walmart shooter.
His mission, which he has all but stated, is to discourage White men from organizing like other races.
His method is to distract from the topic by demanding I jump through hoop after hoop.
But distracting from the central point of this thread, which is race WAR, is a jewish or shill tactic.

If we were serious about opposing jews, every single thread on this board would be discussing Revolution
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>>16638
Still waiting on those picrels that might end up in a glownigger court document, Glowroom.
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>>16621
>ME AM VERY HIGH IQ POSTER SAAR ME FROM BRAHMIN ENLIGHTENED CASTE YA BLADDY BASTARD BENCHOD UR MOM IN ONLYFANS
Sure thing Rajul, whatever helps you sleep at night.

>gets called out for robotically spamming the same canned lines every time
>DOES IT AGAIN
Beyond parody.

>I mention the fact you (made up shit nobody ever did)
<If I repeat it over and over enough times it'll become true
Literal third world "thinking" process. More evidence this guy is smelly and brown, likely Indian.

>compliments Saul Alinsky's tactics as the cherry on top
Couldn't help yourself huh.

>UUURRRRRG AM GONNA ORGANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZE
This shit is so predictable I should make a bingo out of it.

>>16629
>>16632
>>16635
I suggest Glowjeet as an alternative, his shit-talking reminds me strongly of typical pajeet bragadoccio.
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>I suggest Glowjeet as an alternative, his shit-talking reminds me strongly of typical pajeet bragadoccio.
In any case, he's a just a few more posts until I can max out out this Bingo chart, unless you want to add some of your own.
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>>16643
Here's a slightly tweaked up version, what do you think?
>>16647
Kek. Very good.
The derad's been pretty quiet. You know he's around because he shotguns post after post after post of mindless drivel. But now? Nothing. Guess we really hurt his feelings this time, and all it took was a combination of pressuring him to post about kike crimes and calling him a pajeet simultaneously.
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>>16647
Needs
>White martyr is actually a fed/jew
>Muh old niggers
>Pseudo-intellectualism/pretending to be smart
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>>16650
Step up, and edit it nigger. Pool is open.
>>16639
Hopefully, I never end up in a courtroom but if it happens it happens
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>>16641
>Non argument 

>Non argument

>Non argument

Anyway, back to the point: if shooting up a Walmart could overthrow ZOG, the jews would be out of power by now.

>>16649
I apologize, I should be prioritizing posting over real life like you do
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>>16650
Nice jewish lies you posted.
I defend Tarrant against fedjacketers
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Aw look, he's back. Guess he just had to step out to take a shit on the designated street. Anyway, 

>>16653
>le shoot up walmart meme AGAIN

>>16654
>I defend Tarrant against fedjacketers
Which one is it, curryboy?

>>16652
Then you don't need to fear anything right? You can post the things he listed just fine. Why don't you?
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>>16657
That's a second derad not the usual guy, unless his IP has changed drastically, but considering they all use similar scripts, what's the difference?
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>>16657
You're the one who claimed that shooting up a Walmart was a revolutionary act.
The men who do this always end up in prison for life after killing at most just over a dozen random peasants.
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>>16658
Derad = "stay unorganized goy, fantasize about highschool shooters but never actually do anything, goy"
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>>16627
Finally!
>>16628
>He tried posting a David Lane PDF one time as his credentials
In a way, and that's not to sound harsh or anything, but since all that can be done on this board is to type and post anonymously, sharing on the other hand the works of a known historical White revolutionary man is like the most radical and real thing one can do.
>>16661
>>16663
Post 'em, pussy.
>>16632
What's your beef against this anon exactly? I for one can barely remember who's who.
>>16638
Whether there would be a good reason to hate you or not, like perhaps you truly are a retard, but you have no moral obligation to obey the other anon and post anything.
>>16641
>>compliments Saul Alinsky's tactics as the cherry on top
I hate to bring this but it's not because our enemies have done something that appears to work that we should automatically reject the method just because we didn't do it first. In fact aren't you the one who brought up Alinsky? Besides the whole of your message is of a very poor quality. Look at you now calling him a pajeet just because he says he's using his brains, like this offends you. But what can we talk about here? We are all roughly educated and on the same level regarding them and us, we know the situation is terrible, so all that's left is speculating about the solution really, whether it's talking about the next religion, or how to organize, or how to hit, or what should be done differently.
>>16643
Cringe and weak.
>demands novel tactics
How? there have been several anons and I mean at least two different ones saying that we should take some clues from historical organizations and methods that have proved to work even if some of them are in a need of a brush up.
>vote harder
I haven't seen anyone demand this.
>there's never been a successful counter-semitic...
Again, who said that?
And so on and so forth.
Your bingo card meme is dishonest or retarded. I can't decide which one is worse.
>>16647
>look mummy I added some more shit in my bindo carb!
I guess you must be a leftist because you can't meme.
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>>16653
>Anyway, back to the point: if shooting up a Walmart could overthrow ZOG, the jews would be out of power by now.
>>16654
>I defend Tarrant against fedjacketers
To keep this logical, it means you reject Walmart shooters but support Tarrant.
True?
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>>16670
I don't "reject" anything. Nor have I ever claimed that Patrick Crusius was a fed. Only that his actions were foolish.
Tarrant's actions were only marginally better but only because he killed more enemies.

Both men were fit, possibly persuasive, and ideologically motivated. Instead of utilizing their abilities to recruit more men to our cause, they are now sitting in prison after achieving nothing.
It was stupid, but not the fbi
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>>16672
This is simply factual shooting up a school store or even a synagogue wont end ZOG. Whites need to focus on actually contributing to the cause and even if they have no skills or usefulness they could at least try and kill an important Jew.
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<"Worthless targets!"
>Kill zogbot pigs
<"Why didn't you kill the jews themselves?"
>Kill jews
<"Jews can kill jews too, those weren't even the right jews anyway!"
>Kill a CEO
<"He can be replaced!"
>Kill the sons and daughters of pro-immigration politicians on a leftist training camp island
<"They actually opposed zionism and were going to destroy jews in 2 more weeks man!"
>Blow up a fucking federal building
<"Uh well you see uh this actually does nothing and accomplishes nothing and uh violence is never the answer we must join Patriot Front think of the optics 2 more weeks-"
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>>16693
Don't try too hard daisy.
>>16663
Don't put words in my mouth asshole.
I only bothered to post to make it clear you aren't the usual derad, barring some severe IP shenanigans or TOR, you are not likely him, but you are an idiot.
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>>16700
If that isn't your position, why do you ceaselessly shill against White men getting organized?

>>16693
Killing a CEO is a great idea in theory. You say that he can be replaced and that is true. However, his replacement will be a different person.
That means that all the personal connections of Mr. Sheckleberg are gone. His replacement likely doesn't have the same network or even ruthlessness of Mr. Sheckleberg. Maybe the replacement isn't popular and thus will yield less influence over the corporation. There are a million reasons why killing a CEO is a better idea than shooting random people.
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>>16692
Taking out a single CEO would be beneficial in the short term.
Ultimately, only sustained and focused violence will defeat ZOG. 
If someone killed Mr. Shekelberg, CEO of media inc, his replacement will be less experienced at being evil. 
It would take time for him to adjust to his new role.
But to truly win, his replacement would need to be taken down too. And the board of directors. And maybe even followed up by cyber attacks and infrastructure sabotage. 
Eventually, over the course of a year or two, the corporation will go bankrupt.

The problem of 4channers and the Walmart shooter crowd here is that too many White Nationalists think only reactively, short term. Driven by rage rather than strategy.
Watching some guy kill 5 old niggers and then get arrested feels cathartic for many anons because they are angry. Until we can master our emotions, we're not ready to fight a real war.

I recommend that everyone read this article comparing al quaeda with the O
PIRA https://exiledonline.com/wn-38-ira-vs-al-qaeda-i-was-wrong/index.html
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>>16702
>>16703
Post infographics and statistical sources which are harmful to the reputation of all jews, such as discussion of kikeland's illegal nuclear weapons program called the Samson Option, their license to kill civilians under the Hannibal Directive, sex offender graphs in kikeland, the verses from the talmud stating that the rape of 3/6 year old boys and girls is fully acceptable and sanctioned, and so on. I have a bingo to win, Glowroom.
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>>16708
>I have a bingo to win, Glowroom.
In your dreams. :^)
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>>16710
I think we should add "schools" back into the Bingo card, but along side of "daycares". He used it like two times right after it was swapped out from the deck. Gives you a free point too.
>>16708
Why?
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>>16702
>There are a million reasons why killing a CEO is a better idea than shooting random people.
It's not enough but it's still very rewarding, even if sometimes a company is efficient thanks to the invisible work from the people below. So sometimes, you may actually make things better for the company by removing a moron who was put there because blackmail, relations, sucked dick in a freemason lodge and more. In many other cases these leaders are definitely those who have a vision. What would happen to say Palantir if you killed all the top staff and did so three times in a row?
>>16708
You're not even addressing anything he said?
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>>16713
>>16764
I will answer you one final time, as it has been explained a number of times already. It is a heuristic and vetting tool: disingenous posters, shills, hasbara, and glownigger feds can legally post "gas the kikes" or post caricatures or anything else all day long as part of their duties, to try and fit in. It is very different, however, to post unambiguous evidence of jewish crimes from sources which are trusted and authorized even by jewish mass media, judges, lawyers, and the common man or woman. Posting a happy merchant versus securing permission from your supervisors to post verses from the Talmud therein which advocate and applaud the joys of bisexual child rape of minors below the age of 3 and 6, fully sourced and cited from internationally trusted editions of the Babylonian Talmud, when on assignment to defend jews and israel in a thread are two very, very, very different things from a legal standpoint, unofficial rulebooks and how it'd appear in a court of law / leaked reports. This logic applies the same for other major jewish crimes, such as Israel's illegal nuclear military programs forbidden to be discussed in addition to their targets being supposed "ally" countries and capital cities. Jewish crimes are chosen because they are the supreme paymaster, authority, and "most equal" out of all the animals in countless countries, making the repercussions especially dire for shills, glowniggers, and hasbara who mess up in the line of duty by offering a loaded gun to their enemies in digital spaces while tying the noose themselves.
<inb4 that never happens!
We post the 8chan legal courts here for fun. Epstein's email leaks are everywhere. Much of this can be (and is) acquired by legal information requests, besides. It's very commonplace, if you were not born under a rock.

In the case of paid shills (including foreigners, who inevitably are paid as hasbara subcontractors), it is very much against their contract to do so. Hasbara volunteers and conscripts for very obvious reasons cannot do so. Academics and researchers would absolutely not be allowed to poison their own datasets if they included extremely damning and truthful fully cited sources of their own. FBI agents are directly trained and coached by the ADL, and U.S. law enforcement in general is often trained by Shin Bet with the addition of paid vacation trips to Israel as part of their own philosemitic brainwashing and outreach programs. An additional but unexpected side benefit is that many seemingly opposing intelligence agencies and countries have strict laws against counter-semitism, including Russia, which makes all the previous same logic apply.

It also begs the question of why a fervent racial and White European / Ethnic European warfighter, activist, and individual has no clue who his enemies are, why he can't name their crimes and justify even his own dislike of them as a racial enemy without a prompt, and other baffling red flags / tells. All information or material that is being requested for sharing and upload is either easily acquired in the very same thread, after two minutes on a different imageboard or website, wikipedia, or even off of any mainstream search engine. No request is ever made to dox yourself as even screenshots are fine, although if you posted original copies and passages and material, this would be most welcome for future propaganda use. Just make your uploads clear and easily viewable / reproduceable, as if they were to appear in a court of law or document like the Epstein leaks or 8chan warrant papers. It's inevitable that things posted will be archived, viewed by hostile parties, and assumed to be saved by others-- this reasoning is simply being applied in reverse instead.

There are many other reasons this method is used, which I feel no urge to divulge and indeed will not. It was developed and tested over years, quite successfully more often than not by a large margin, even within very hostile and unfriendly digital spaces. Anons with no prompting or being told of the mechanics of it have immediately recognized what was being done, before working in cooperation by using it. The real question is, why is someone from Patriot Front, with years of knowledge about a race war, all the politics behind it, FBI crime statistics in their head, and hours to spend on MS-Paint cartoons unable to recite such facts without much ado or screenshot firsthand sources before posting within a few minutes as countless anons have already done and do in each thread already?
>>16765
Screencapping and saving this post to my redpill folder. Also, here's another possibility: Glowroom isn't a team of derad shills but just one guy, samefagging to agree with himself and make himself look more legitimate. It's the nadir of pathetic behavior.
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pfff ahahahahahahahahha


derad kun is really getting off his own farts
>>16769
No, there are plenty of paid and unpaid individuals lurking fascist and ns forums/imageboards with the task to disrupt, demoralize and shit them up. When all of the above fail, they get shut down.
They did it to the most prominent 8chan and never stopped since.
Now they have ton more ways to catch posters irl via goyphone and social media which make everyone easily traceable.
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>>16765
So you think that the Hasbara agents would have limits to what they could say, very strong legal limits, in a country whose army can shoot kids on screen with no consequences?
>Posting a happy merchant versus securing permission from your supervisors to post verses from the Talmud therein which advocate and applaud the joys of bisexual child rape of minors below the age of 3 and 6, fully sourced and cited from internationally trusted editions of the Babylonian Talmud, when on assignment to defend jews and israel in a thread are two very, very, very different things from a legal standpoint, unofficial rulebooks and how it'd appear in a court of law / leaked reports.
Really? Let's see evidence of this. The evidence that Israeli agents are not allowed to go that far in what they can post in order to look like us.
Also, if you are implying that exposing pedo-genocidal Talmudic shit is off limits to these agents, then what do you think of an anon who goes after Adam Green who's exposing rabbis doing precisely this?
>We post the 8chan legal courts here for fun. Epstein's email leaks are everywhere. Much of this can be (and is) acquired by legal information requests, besides. It's very commonplace, if you were not born under a rock.
Precisely, because it's so ubiquitous there's no achievement having it published again. Don't you think?
>In the case of paid shills (including foreigners, who inevitably are paid as hasbara subcontractors), it is very much against their contract to do so.
I guess it's time to see one of those contracts then.
>Hasbara volunteers and conscripts for very obvious reasons cannot do so.
Or maybe they can, even if under special circumstances. What makes you think a country that's willing to kill its own people would not allow itself to publish some material that, by your own admission, can be found online, if it can help proceed through any given mission?
>It also begs the question of why a fervent racial and White European / Ethnic European warfighter, activist, and individual has no clue who his enemies are
That is not true, unless you can point to evidence that an anon was incapable of knowing the true nature of our enemy.
>why he can't name their crimes
You say he can't but what about he simply does not want to. If you were asking me to post this material again and again I'd simply tell you to fuck off. Not because I don't have the material or "can't" do it, but because I'm not taking orders from random people online and I owe you nothing.
>All information or material that is being requested for sharing and upload is either easily acquired in the very same thread, after two minutes on a different imageboard or website, wikipedia, or even off of any mainstream search engine.
Fine but that doesn't mean anyone has any obligation to take orders from you.
What I see is that you've been evading his points by hiding behind this fancy excuse you came up with.
>There are many other reasons this method is used, which I feel no urge to divulge and indeed will not. It was developed and tested over years, quite successfully more often than not by a large margin, even within very hostile and unfriendly digital spaces.
Sure. To me it looks like you're just making shit up but whatever in the most paranoid way, like every time you were losing an argument you suddenly pulled your post-em-files-now trick and then kept going on with that like a broken record over a dozen posts. Perhaps people stopped trying anything was because you were just being dumb and they got tired of that shit? Like you've never seen people walk out of any argument on any forum when dealing with a member stuck in a loop. Has that ever crossed your mind?
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>>16776
>No, there are plenty of paid and unpaid individuals lurking fascist and ns forums/imageboards with the task to disrupt, demoralize and shit them up. When all of the above fail, they get shut down.
>They did it to the most prominent 8chan and never stopped since.
That's very disingenuous of you. You're just forgetting how 8chan was dragged into this for starters and who gave the feds that fantastic excuse to take 8chan down.
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>>15758
>Let's keep in mind formal ethno-fascist states such as israel, which actively sterilized their own minority population (Ethiopian kikes, specifically by means of sterilizing the mothers) with state sanctioned authority, reach, budget, and means (leaning on the greatest military power of all time, the United States), which still had to be careful with sterilizing a minority group and wasn't all that successful with doing so before being detected.
Pretty good overlap of COVID-19's vaccination biowarfare program discussion material overlapping with kikelandia's federal eugenics programs against minority kike racial groups. Although I find such programs unfeasible as an offensive weapon without state control, at least using injections, it's probably wise for anons have working knowledge of testosterone disruptors, foreign xenoestrogen sources, and other jewish materials added into food and water sources. Looks like the success rate was 50% according to this Guardian article, which isn't too bad actually.

<Reuben spoke to one woman who believed she had been given a flu vaccination and had no idea she had been injected with Depo-Provera.
<Reuben spoke to one woman who believed she had been given a flu vaccination
I do wonder.
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>>16777
>So you think that the Hasbara agents would have limits to what they could say, very strong legal limits, in a country whose army can shoot kids on screen with no consequences?
That's another "things nobody actually said" for my bingo card.

>Really? Let's see evidence of this. The evidence that Israeli agents are not allowed to go that far in what they can post in order to look like us.
The frankly embarrasing histrionics you've been throwing for the better part of this thread alone is evidence enough.

>Or maybe they can, even if under special circumstances. What makes you think a country that's willing to kill its own people would not allow itself to publish some material that, by your own admission, can be found online, if it can help proceed through any given mission?
So what's stopping you? If a hasbara agent or paid shill or volunteer can do it just fine, then logically you'd do it too in order to preserve your cover, if you were one such individual. So why don't you? Genuine Natsocs do it, according to you hasbara's minions do it too, so why do you gotta go into hysterics and pilpul and kvetch and act like a complete spastic in your histrionic refusal to do so? Why attract so much attention to yourself, when it'd be so much easier to just post the material? But we all know why.

>taking orders
>power trip
>I owe you nothing
This is genuinely cringe-inducing. Even teenage girls don't act this hysterical.

>accuses others of repeating the same shit like a broken record when we have a literal bingo card of the shit he's been spewing verbatim for years on end
Beyond parody.
>>16780
>That's another "things nobody actually said" for my bingo card.
You claimed there are topics which are off limits for Israeli agents or those whom they pay to post online:
>>It is a heuristic and vetting tool: disingenous posters, shills, hasbara, and glownigger feds can legally post "gas the kikes" or post caricatures or anything else all day long as part of their duties, to try and fit in. It is very different, however, to post unambiguous evidence of jewish crimes from sources which are trusted and authorized even by jewish mass media, judges, lawyers, and the common man or woman. Posting a happy merchant versus securing permission from your supervisors to post verses from the Talmud therein which advocate and applaud the joys of bisexual child rape of minors below the age of 3 and 6, fully sourced and cited from internationally trusted editions of the Babylonian Talmud, when on assignment to defend jews and israel in a thread are two very, very, very different things from a legal standpoint, unofficial rulebooks and how it'd appear in a court of law / leaked reports. This logic applies the same for other major jewish crimes, such as Israel's illegal nuclear military programs forbidden to be discussed in addition to their targets being supposed "ally" countries and capital cities.
In other parts of your post you echo that claim and talk about legality, contracts, etc.
If that's not what you claimed then you're not clear enough and perhaps you should think about distilling your point into a more concise form.
>The frankly embarrasing histrionics you've been throwing for the better part of this thread alone is evidence enough.
You don't even know what histrionics means ffs.
So I will paste my demand again, hoping you don't evade it twice.
<Provide the evidence that Israeli agents are not allowed to go that far in what they can post in order to look like us.
There, that should do. I'll be waiting.
>So what's stopping you?
Already explained.
>If a hasbara agent or paid shill or volunteer can do it just fine, then logically you'd do it too in order to preserve your cover
But since you're a paranoid dimwit you think that everybody except you is an agent. What if I had no cover to protect at all?
>Genuine Natsocs do it
No, they don't, because they have no obligation to follow your demands. What they would do though is laugh at you. Or perhaps feel pity for you.
>so why do you gotta go into hysterics and pilpul and kvetch
That's literally three words you used of which the meaning you don't understand either
>and act like a complete spastic in your histrionic refusal to do so?
Glad to know you don't know what spastic means too.
>Why attract so much attention to yourself
Attention? On this very low activity board? Amusing.
>This is genuinely cringe-inducing. Even teenage girls don't act this hysterical.
Hysterical. Another word you don't understand.
You're the only one here having a bad time because anons refuse to satisfy your every whims.
I come here in the hope of having a good discussion, not to waste my time with a retard who's not even bright enough to work at CREST.
Yeah I did wonder if you came from that glowy place but I retracted that idea after concluding that you were nothing more than a socially stunted and paranoid idiot.
Here's the funny part. If I were to stop entertaining your narcissistic delusions, you would once more claim to have proved your magnificent theory when in reality you would be left alone talking to yourself.
I think I shall give you one last chance to provide evidence to your claims about legal limitations that would even apply to Hasbara rats. Maybe it's true, who knows, but that's the point of asking for evidence.
If you prove incapable of replying like a normal person then this will be the end of it.
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>>16765
That's funny because I challenged you to articulate why we oppose the jews and you couldn't do it. I >>16168 predicted that you would never do this because you can denounce the Talmud or post any info graphic you like to blend in, but articulating specific and justifiable reasons why we oppose jews looks very bad coming from the hand of an agent.
I genuinely have no idea what jewish child rape statistics are since that isn't what motivates me to oppose them. I don't know everything just like you don't know much about the history of revolutionary struggles across the globe. That is not my area of interest and revolution clearly is not yours. I oppose jews because jews are anti-White.
Here is what motivates me. 

>it is very much against their contract to do (post epstein emails)
I highly, highly doubt that. The very fact that jews killed Epstein proves that he was on the losing end of a limited power struggle. But you want epstein emails? Fine. 
Wow, shocking, the system is corrupt. Now that I posed these emails, I will eagerly hold my breath for the system to come apart.
Do you know who released these emails? The US government. If these emails are so meaningful, why did they do that? When is the house going to implode?

>It also begs the question of why a fervent racial and White European / Ethnic European warfighter, activist, and individual has no clue who his enemies are
That is an outright lie. Cite one post I have ever made that implies I am not 100% aware who the enemies are.
If you're not a jew, why are you lying about what I said?
Even if you think I am an asshole, a White revolutionary does not lie about what another White revolutionary says because you should be seeking the same goals as I seek: White Revolution.
The fact that you lie about me proves that you have ulterior motives.
>>16769
>everyone who takes Revolution more seriously than me is the same guy Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa
No, I know for a fact that not everyone is as unserious about this as you.
White nationalism is a minority opinion among White people. Even so, most White nationalists are not truly serious. Most are 4channer types who like posting about edgy things like school shooters and balk at the hard, boring, tedious nature of real revolution. You like talking about muh guns and clucking with the rest of the cuckservative crowd about how the libs will get owned if they cross a line, but you never lay the groundwork for that victory.
You don't actually want us to win. You just want to post online about it.

But within this mass of fair weather nationalists, there are a few men who genuinely want us to win. 
I assume that it will take 30 years to win, at least. That's okay.
I assume that we will when the fighting starts, we will incur 50% casualties. I assume I will be among them. That's okay.
I know that whoever you are, if you have even thought about what it will take to win, it looks like something like this

>one day, for no reason, Whites will just spontaneously form cells. Or maybe it'll just be literally one guy vs the entire US regime
>it won't be me though... or perhaps I'll be leading them somehow
>we'll shoot transformers or poison water supplies... maybe they'll shoot up walmarts or something
>somehow, this guy or these cells perform at 100% perfect efficiency, conducting multiple attacks a day, not one gets caught
>somehow, these tiny pinpricks against the system will actually cause the entire US government to collapse
>Somehow, for no rational reason, we will spontaneously take over the US army or magically form our own despite investing zero effort in organizing one.
Am I describing your ideals?

If I'm even close, you're not a serious person.
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>>16780
>"things nobody actually said" for my bingo card.
If I called you a wigger, it was not random. It was probably because you lack self awareness and lie a lot
>>16790
Actually, I take part of this back: is White nationalism even a minority opinion among White people? No.
White nationalism is just ethnocentrism applied to race.
In America, "White nationalism" is something ~10% of Whites openly embrace according to a poll in 2017. We may presume that the real number is higher, perhaps 20-30%
That is a minority. But among eastern Europeans, the percent of White ethnocentrics or "racists" is over 90%
Even if we assume that west Europeans are more cucked than Americans, the combined weight of the total population puts us at more than 50% White nationalists UNLESS we are 4chan retarded and don't consider Slavs White (Dr. Pierce did and Hitler never said that they weren't)
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>>16780
I've got a "We should wait a few more decades.", (Kvetches at racial insults in his native hebrew), and "Appeals to non-existent Dr. Pierce viewpoints".

"30 years to win" is my justification for the first, second one I argue based on the pilpul and kvetch grounds but I can strike this off if you think it's unwarranted. For the final, somehow the man who created Turner Diaries and Hunter, plus backed Bob later during a time when the demographics were infinitely better is somehow not serious about DA.
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>>16793
All good. Looks like we're neck to neck here.
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>>16793
>"Appeals to non-existent Dr. Pierce viewpoints".
Which would be?...
>>16794
Fuck. I didn't catch that he word-for-word talked about shooting transformers again. Could have used that one for a win.
Since this shitfest has begun, the board has become more active than usual.
Looks like we're being invaded with people who are just here to soil the board and dilute threads with nonsense.
Bingofag for starters, who seems to be battling with windmills in his head.
And the "post muh jewfiles" anon who tries to boss people around, who's gigaretarded.
All in all we can notice that nothing useful has been said during the last two or three dozen posts.
It reminds me of that tactic of shitting up threads and flooding them with garbage and pseudo feuds and that shit goes on and on until nobody feels like posting anymore.
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>>16799
Bingofag is multiple people, as is post-the-jews. Stop being a faggot and reply to posts that ignored the derailments, such as this one next time instead of complaining:
>>16779
There's plenty like that in every thread.
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>>16803
>ignore bingofag
>literally point to a mediocre post full of bingo card shit and more
>b-but it is le real post!!!
Ok fine I give up. Until this thread truly improves I'll stay out. I wasted too much time in it already, the return value is far too low for me to care.
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>>16799
The Saul Alinsky "NO U!!!!!!!!!!!!" is way too obvious. I feel insulted, honestly, to have such low-quality bait used on me. Are they just grabbing random dickheads off the street to do intern work for Langley these days? Anyway, you can post the sourced infographics about Jewish crimes whenever you want, nobody's stopping you. Any day now.
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>>16804
It took two seconds to verify that the post indeed has zero replies or text in the body referring to derailment posts, clearly trying to switch back to thread-relevant topics. The bingo cards are, unsurprisingly, due to multiple anons playing bingo. If you want better discussions, do your part and respond to other anons.

>>16806
I was more insulted by the infographs. Gun control (which most of the world supports and is not a crime), vague book titles you'd only know were woke-related with jewish authors if you had prior context (and not a crime or universally damning), literally a "Bilderberg" lolbertarian mainstream picture with zero identifiers for jews (and not a crime at all), a vague Epstein email about girls in bikinis which is not damning at all (and not illegal), and a second email that's a nothingburger with a side of void fries. How difficult is it to simply repost actual damning subject matter found in this very thread or others?
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