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i don't want to exterminate any race on earth, no matter how annoying/subversive they may be. i just want them all to go back to where they came from and leave us alone. as a white burger that would also mean I go back to Europe, and give America back to the natives. we have our home, they have ours. overpopulation should not be a problem (the entire world could live in New Zealand if they had the same population density as NYC), several parts of Europe can be made more habitable as technology progresses, such as land reclamation like the Dutch or moving further north in scandinavia and siberia. by the time overpopulation becomes an actual issue we should have space travel figured out by then.
i also think many fascists view religion from the completely wrong perspective. instead of asking "is this religion true or not?" they ask "how can this religion benefit us?". they become enamored by the ideas the religion stands for instead of considering the theology behind it. just because paganism is traditionally european doesn't make it right. most pagans just like the idea of a blonde-haired blue-eyed god throwing a big hammer around at people they don't like.
i don't consider myself fascist because of how it asserts white racial supremacy. all the sources i read indicate that it is based on supremacism instead of nationalism, which I don't agree with. i don't want to exert my influence or will over anyone just because they were born the "wrong" color, i just want them to stay with their people while we stay with ours. but I guess that is not what fascism is, so that's not what I am either.
**i am also not sure what i am when it comes to style of governance. i am some kind of bizarre authoritarian-libertarian hybrid. if something can be 100% controlled/contained by the government, then I am authoritarian. if it can't, then I am libertarian. for example, when it comes to homosexuality, i understand that it is impossible to kill every gay on the planet, and that they will always exist. since it can't be done, i am libertarian on the subject: let people be gay, but keep it to yourselves and don't push it on anyone else.
it is also the responsibility of the state to push correct, objective, moral values onto the populace. unfortunately their "objective" values are most often just "it is true because i say so" and not grounded in anything that is truly universal, which is why we have this globohomo cabal doing their best to crash the planet with no survivors. whether they're doing it on purpose, out of malice/greed/lust for power, or just plain retardation, we will never know. history can judge this time period 500 years from now with a clearer mind, assuming we make it that far at all.
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>i don't want to exterminate any race on earth, no matter how annoying/subversive they may be. i just want them all to go back to where they came from and leave us alone
I agree with this. "A place for every race", with the sole exception of the Jews because they're an obvious threat that will continue their subversion regardless of where they are. 
>i also think many fascists view religion from the completely wrong perspective. instead of asking "is this religion true or not?" they ask "how can this religion benefit us?". they become enamored by the ideas the religion stands for instead of considering the theology behind it. just because paganism is traditionally european doesn't make it right. most pagans just like the idea of a blonde-haired blue-eyed god throwing a big hammer around at people they don't like.
I agree that fascists approach religion the wrong way. I disagree, however, that paganism isn't "right". I fully believe in the animistic and polytheistic aspect of the divine, that all things have a spirit, and that some of these spirits are higher than others. Hence, men, who are greater than animals and plants; the gods, who are greater than men; and daemons, the spirits in-between. Is there a singular source from which all comes forth, the Monad? I don't know, and that is something I want to understand more. If that one anon who posted about the conflict with the One is still around, perhaps you could enlighten us once more.
Anyways, the main problem, in my opinion, is that oftentimes imageboard pagans spend more time arguing with imageboard Christians (which is its own form of autism) than they do trying to understand their own religion, which frustrates me. They should be using that time reading more about their own religion, meditating, praying and sacrificing to the gods, asking for the protection of the spirits, stuff like that.  
>i don't consider myself fascist because of how it asserts white racial supremacy. all the sources i read indicate that it is based on supremacism instead of nationalism, which I don't agree with.
I believe there were a few fascist groups that were not necessarily supremacist, just nationalist, like the early Itaian fascists. The Brazilian Integralists were pro-race mixing, which has given quite a few blackshirts here aneurysms, for obvious reasons.
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Not to mention that in basically every religious or spiritual tradition, engaging in worship solely for one's own benefit is a direct path to being taken advantage of by malicious spirits/daemons who will trick you into giving your soul by promising worldly gains in exchange.
>Anyways, the main problem, in my opinion, is that oftentimes imageboard pagans spend more time arguing with imageboard Christians (which is its own form of autism) than they do trying to understand their own religion, which frustrates me.
That's the modus operandi of so many people these days: don't try to understand your own position just pick a side and scream at the other side.
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that would be nice and all but rest of the races prove to be malicious and we live in a world of scarcity. there's not enough to go around and there are already too many people as it is.
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>i don't want to exterminate any race on earth, no matter how annoying/subversive they may be. 
Too bad they want to exterminate you, even the supposed "based" ones that niggers like you parade around, talk out one side of their mouth, and then take action to the opposite effect as soon as you aren't looking. Knowing this, the only proper response is to exterminate them all. It's all about scales of violence, he who is most brutal, most quickly, typically is the one who wins and survives to fight another day, will you let them kill you and all the rest of our race? If not, you MUST kill them, all of them, before they do it to us, this is how the world has always worked, and forgetting that truth and pleading to "civilized" values and other such bullshit is a very big reason why Rome collapsed in upon itself. We take power, land, resources, the comfort of these things makes us complacent, sometimes very quickly, sometimes over many generations, then by the time anybody has the will to do anything, that society is irrecoverable, revolution becomes the only possibility and without a Final Soultion it will all just happen once more, ad infinitum.  
>i just want them all to go back to where they came from and leave us alone.
This is not possible. All of life is war, a competition, that has always been, and will always be. Letting them live takes resources from us, from our children and their children and their children, and so on, while you sit ostensibly comfortable in your house whining about having to do the "difficult" work of killing our enemies who would see our race extinct instinctually, without being bidden and the evidence of that is our new Somalian(or whatever example you wish they all fit, from a to Z) countrymen in Minnesota.
>as a white burger that would also mean I go back to Europe, and give America back to the natives. we have our home, they have ours. 
No, neither I, nor most Americans, would throw our ancestors sacrifice away to assuage your Christian guilt-ridden conscience, this land belongs to our race, our people, and only us, fuck all the rest.
>overpopulation should not be a problem...
It would be, very quickly, if you wish to see any historical building or keep any nature around at all, living like kikes, kikespawn, and niggers do in NYC is not the kind of life, or existence I wish to give to my descendants and I, will kill anyone who tries to force such an asinine and disgusting way of life on me, or them, without hesitation, to my death and the death of my cause, or to theirs. The only way we will see space beyond the Moon, and maybe Mars, is by having the resources of the entire planet at our command, and I would prefer to do this without destroying the planet in the process. The only way to do that, and still have a home to return to, is to have no other competitors left on this planet.
>i also think many fascists view religion...
Anyone who does not view religion from the standpoint of "how does this benefit the existence of my people and the future of my race?" is not thinking in any mode of thought that will accomplish anything ,and just like you will, those people will die trying to "unify" the races of man behind their idea of "One Struggle" only to fail and have their hearts eaten by the Subhumans, they have invited into their homes and neighborhoods.
>they become enamored by the ideas the religion stands for instead of considering the theology behind it. just because paganism is traditionally European doesn't make it right. 
The fact that the ideas behind most of the European Indigenous religions are in line with reality is the very reason they are correct and valid path to believe in, and the dissonance with reality pictured and depicted by Abrahamic religions is the very reason they are rejected by most "fascists" and most specifically National Socialists. The "Theology" you crave to know about the EIR's, was destroyed by the subversion, malice, greed, and ignorance, of Jews and Jewish christcucks, "theology" comes with time, and is in fact completely worthless for all but the best of minds, it is much easier and simpler for people to follow ideas, even if those ideas are cloaked in a supernatural veneer, than it is to ask that they know and understand the mysteries of any religion and most especially those of Semitic Abrahamic religions.
>most pagans just like the idea of a blonde-haired blue-eyed god
Thor has red hair, for one, and those who only care about superficialities are themselves worthless, even so many who wish to emulate Thor specifically would not be an issue, he is a mighty warrior.
>i don't consider myself fascist because of how it asserts white racial supremacy. 
Good, you are not, and that makes you an enemy to me and my cause, no matter your racial background
>all the sources i read indicate that it is based on supremacism instead of nationalism, which I don't agree with.
"It" being, National Socialism, is based on the acknowledgement of the differences in races, and advocating actions for the best interests of your race, in the case of the White race, we are objectively superior to the others, and the Aryans, from within our broader race, more superior still. Acknowledging this, and acting accordingly, is a good thing and I honestly wish more people actually put the proper amount of thought into things. 
>i don't want to exert my influence or will over anyone just because they were born the "wrong" color,
>i just want them to stay with their people while we stay with ours.
You either exert your own Will, or someone else's Will, will be exerted upon you, there are no exceptions. and they have demonstrated TIME and TIME again that THEY WILL NOT STAY IN THEIR OWN LANDS.
>i am some kind of bizarre authoritarian-libertarian hybrid. 
So, you follow jews and jewish thought which is, at it's very core, at odds with and discordant with, Nature and Natural Law.
>if something can be 100%...
In many casses, it should not be controlled, it should be unrestricted, and monitored and you use propaganda and education to show people why that thing is bad for them, oddly enough self-regulation is easier to achieve than trying to force people to do something. 
>for example, when it comes to homosexuality...
So, you're a faggot, and shall be bogged like a faggot. The reason this should be ruthlessly punished, (aside from the obvious vector of disease that it is, as is being proven, as we speak, by Monkeypox and AIDS before it) is that the primary victims of homosexuals is children, and they have demonstrated that, in less than fifty years of being "allowed", they have done exactly what you think you can stop them from doing, they were given the choice to keep quiet and to themselves and still they victimized children creating more of themselves by spreading their parasitic infection.
>it is also the responsibility of the state to push...
No, it is the responsibility of the State to care for it's people, and encourage correct decisions and upstanding moral character, which Hitler did and he was a Nietzschean. 
>which is why we have
No, we have that because our ancestors forgot the meaning of race and it's implications on reality and because multiple generations have utterly failed to pass on any Truth to their children caring more for their own prosperity and the ease of their own lives than for the future of their people.
>history can judge...
History  will judge this era as the beginning of the greatest period of destruction so far in Our race's History(unless you count the possibility of a previous devastating nuclear war as evidenced by radiation signatures in India) and the beginning of the rebirth of the Aryan and his rule of the planet.
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Globalism is ironically the best end result for humanity - objectively speaking. Before you pop a gasket, not globalism in the way your modern globalists advocate. In order for humanity to evolve, to leave Earth and conquer the stars, differences between humans need to be removed/reduced. Culture? Wars have started over that. Race? Wars have started over that as well. Religion? You know the answer. So the solution is to make everyone on Earth subscribe to one ideology, be of one race, of one people and one goal. Otherwise there will continue to be petty squabbles between people like we've seen thousands of times already. So that leads me to the crux of the argument - if everyone is White, Christian, and all speak the same language, you get the best of both worlds. The civilization of white people mixed with the singularity of purpose that globalism provides. 

Try and debate me on this. Protip: You will lose.
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Protip: You will be the one who loses. 
Christianity will not lead to the stars, it leads only one way, to the extinction of our race what it was designed, by Gamaliel and Saul, to do. Your very advocacy for that religion, defeats your entire argument, the central crux of christianity, is a wish for, lust for and a command for peace, Against killing and treating your fellow man as you would wish to be treated, and man in the bible is all human types, not just the Aryan, or the white man, but every single race. The only race that might be able to do such do such, with christianity, is the race of those who created it, jews, obviously supplemented by their own original judaism. It is not a religion fit for racialists or warriors or men, but for egalitarians, cowards, and women. It would not survive the trials to come, it encourages too much guilt.
If you wish to fight over religion, take it to the Anti-Abrahamism thread, I'm sure plenty of anon's will be along soon enough to excoriate you.
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lead by example faggot, go shmup your local mart to truly btfo all the nonwhites.
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>>41
If you cannot or are not willing to argue the points presented, don't bother replying.
Nowhere in either of those posts did I advocate for self-defeating actions by young white men who have lost hope. Peyton would have done better to target a mosque or synagogue, but even still, he took action, misguided ultimately impotent action but just like with Balliet, he did something. Unlike you who just  whines about not wanting to fight and running away to destroy Europe and most of it's natural beauty in pursuit of going to the stars. I'm pretty sure there isn't enough material there to do so, regardless of how you go about it, because what little oil Europe has is in the northern portion of Scandinavia, which by your own plan would have to be surrendered to the Saami(ambiguously European at best), and Greenland also surrendered to the Inuit tribes there as well.
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>Christian
Unbased and bluepilled.  You can't even conquer a pagan holiday, no one likes seeing a bunch of desert jews among snowy Yuletide decorations.  This is how out of place you'd look "conquering the stars".
>>39
Not a fascist but I'll try to entertain you.

>leave Earth and conquer the stars, differences between humans need to be removed/reduced
Why? The differences between humans exist due to differences in habitat in addition to sources of genes that they receive from different ancestors. Even if for some reason the entire humanity blends into one, they will genetically diverge again whether they live separately in different climates or in whole different planets.

And why would you care about mixing races? Europeans and East Asians make the bulk of human inventions that has propelled the species to the moon. All other ethnic groups don't care about such achievements and simply want to be left alone. Just look at sub-Saharan Africans or Mongolians joyously hunting on their ancestral lands without any care for modern technology.

All resources we need to explore the space is already within reach through international trade and efficient resource management; why can't entire countries send people to the moon if a private company like Amazon could?
The better and easier solution to reach the stars is for Europeans and East Asians to start thinking purely for their own benefits and start moving their societies to assist interplanetary travels.
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'Feminism in inherent in the 14 words.' The anti-feminist attitudes of the modern right, both fascist and conservative, are responsible for unjustifiable, systematic harm to white women and their children, and the adults they grew up to be (male and female).

I'm not talking about whatever ragebait 'feminism' you see in shitty MSM media circus, but I'm not talking about the twentieth century either. The concepts college professors are talking about. That.
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>>52
The man who wrote the 14 words, also despised feminism, and wrote many a screed against it, you are a liar and a subversive, women could be made slaves and it honestly wouldn't matter at all.
>>52
>The concepts college professors are talking about
I'm legitimately curious about this because I don't listen to academia much after graduating from school. It'll probably help a lot if you elaborate on this lest you bait everyone on the thread to make a strawman.
Drugs should be legal and are a good way to relax, assuming they're used in moderation.
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>and all but rest of the races
Why exclude whites? Did you just forget the western colonial era and all the infighting before then?
>>39
>Globalism is ironically the best end result for humanity - objectively speaking
No it isn't. Globalism will always lead to racial and cultural destruction. Cosmopolitism always slopes towards egalitarianism and oneness. 

>not globalism in the way your modern globalists advocate
Read above, globalism is still globalism. Trying to make it pro-White and fascist is impossible. You're only asking for an empire to be as shit as Imperial Rome.

>In order for humanity to evolve, to leave Earth and conquer the stars
>Muh stars, muh stars, Muh Star Wars and SCIFI!
Shut the fuck up. I'm tired of you niggers. The present is the only important thing here, not your vidya fantasies. Plus, you're wrong. Humanity needs diversity and variety in itself. Competition breeds innovation. 

>differences between humans need to be removed/reduced
Hello Mossad! Still trying to Zionism on fascist boards? Anyway your ideas are literal poisons and unrealistic. Try be more practical, because Christcucks have tried this for thousands of years and always failed. An attempt to establish a monolithic culture is against the laws of nature and very Jude.

>everyone is White, Christian, 
>Christian
This explains why you're retarded. Opinion discarded.

>>52
Oh look, another anon shilling a Jewish construct. You would be better off arguing that we shouldn't treat White women like slaves or niggers and I would agree with you.
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>If you cannot or are not willing to argue the points presented, don't bother replying.
I didn't bother giving you a legitimate reply because it would only validate your retarded, one-sideed, and ignorant arguments. But I have fuckall else to do today so fuck it.
>Too bad they want to exterminate you, even the supposed "based" ones that niggers like you parade around, talk out one side of their mouth, and then take action to the opposite effect as soon as you aren't looking.
you're projecting here, i don't care about the darkies, and i think people like cuckservatives that use them to elevate their platform just to prove they're not racist are idiots and only playing into the other side's hand.
>Knowing this, the only proper response is to exterminate them all.
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>If not, you MUST kill them, all of them, before they do it to us,
<yes kill all the nonwhites for me while i watch you get shot by the pigs from my comfy home
you're acting like a jew, enticing others to commit crimes for you. that's why i told you to lead by example, sitting in your safety zone and acting tough and actually doing what you say are two different things. i don't care what you believe in or how retarded it is, but i will not stand for hypocrisy in the slightest.
90% of your post is just KILL 'EM ALL KILL 'EM ALL KILL 'EM ALL so I will ignore them from here on out.
>forgetting that truth and pleading to "civilized" values and other such bullshit is a very big reason why Rome collapsed in upon itself.
rome collapsed because of literal schizo emperors and the very ideology that you preach, believing that I can do a far better job than the current ruler, so he gets assassinated, then another guy thinks he can do better than you and kills you, etc., until leadership is so weak and denigrated that not even the legions can defend the empire. if everyone acts like a leader, nobody wins. there have to be followers to actually carry out one single vision.
>Letting them live takes resources from us, from our children and their children and their children, and so on, while you sit ostensibly comfortable in your house whining about having to do the "difficult" work of killing our enemies who would see our race extinct instinctually
pot calling the kettle black. do something yourself, faggot.
>No, neither I, nor most Americans, would throw our ancestors sacrifice away to assuage your Christian guilt-ridden conscience, this land belongs to our race, our people, and only us, fuck all the rest.
see pic 1 again.
>and I, will kill anyone who tries to force such an asinine and disgusting way of life on me, or them, without hesitation, to my death and the death of my cause, or to theirs
it's already happening, tick tock nigger. lead by example.
>The only way to do that, and still have a home to return to, is to have no other competitors left on this planet.
and once your white ethnoplanet has been achieved they will find another outgroup to bully and blame all their issues on, and then we'll be right back where we started. whether it's religion or a white subgroup that you perceive as inferior, all of life is a struggle as you said. when the nonwhites are gone, why not bully the slavs next door? or the greeks that worship Zeus and not Thor? they may be white, but they're not YOUR idea of what white is. so let's make them the new pariah, shall we? violence is eternal, you can either fight back against it your entire life or find a fucking compromise that results in less dead whites.
>Anyone who does not view religion from the standpoint of "how does this benefit the existence of my people and the future of my race?" is not thinking in any mode of thought that will accomplish anything
then you're a retard. that is not what religion is. religion is based on the idea of universal, objective truth. you do not bend religion to your will, you bend yourself to religion's will and what your god says is the truth. you are merely using it to try to get holy good boy points in the hope that more people will listen to you.
>The fact that the ideas behind most of the European Indigenous religions are in line with reality is the very reason they are correct and valid path to believe in
and what of the eastern religions? hitler was a fan of dharmic philosophies and taoist principles, as well as shintoism. the idea of good and evil, light and dark are very prevalent in those cultures/religions as well. euros didn't create it, it's a universal concept that everyone understands and cannot be claimed to be created by one culture.
>it is much easier and simpler for people to follow ideas, even if those ideas are cloaked in a supernatural veneer, than it is to ask that they know and understand the mysteries of any religion and most especially those of Semitic Abrahamic religions.
so you're saying the only way to lead is through deception and intentionally masking your true beliefs and intentions? who's the jew now?
>even so many who wish to emulate Thor specifically would not be an issue, he is a mighty warrior.
a warrior that never existed and drank the semen of dead men. hail odin, truly a white savior.
>Good, you are not, and that makes you an enemy to me and my cause, no matter your racial background
ow the edge. pic 1 yet again.
>"It" being, National Socialism, is based on the acknowledgement of the differences in races, and advocating actions for the best interests of your race, in the case of the White race, we are objectively superior to the others, and the Aryans, from within our broader race, more superior still. Acknowledging this, and acting accordingly, is a good thing and I honestly wish more people actually put the proper amount of thought into things. 
you are not objectively superior, you are subjectively superior according to your own worldview. as you already stated you have no source of objective truth. objective truth can only come from a higher power, something above humanity: religion, which, as you stated earlier, you are free to warp and distort to fit your own personal beliefs. so your "objective" source is now "i made it the fuck up", senator armstrong. and don't even fucking try to say that science is objective, with its constantly changing theories and the endless parroting of "we were never wrong, we just got new data".
>You either exert your own Will, or someone else's Will, will be exerted upon you, there are no exceptions. and they have demonstrated TIME and TIME again that THEY WILL NOT STAY IN THEIR OWN LANDS.
the nogs were content with themselves in africa. asia kept to themselves. the natives also enjoyed their own continent. really it was only islam and the mongols that tried to force their shit onto everyone, and they were kicked out of europe both times. it was euros who started traveling everywhere, trading, interacting and mingling with the cultures and spreading/mixing them across the globe. europe is responsible for globalism.
>So, you follow jews and jewish thought which is, at it's very core, at odds with and discordant with, Nature and Natural Law.
projection, not an argument.
>So, you're a faggot, and shall be bogged like a faggot.
projection, not an argument
>The reason this should be ruthlessly punished, (aside from the obvious vector of disease that it is, as is being proven, as we speak, by Monkeypox and AIDS before it) is that the primary victims of homosexuals is children, and they have demonstrated that, in less than fifty years of being "allowed", they have done exactly what you think you can stop them from doing, they were given the choice to keep quiet and to themselves and still they victimized children creating more of themselves by spreading their parasitic infection.
so pull an omar and shoot up your local gay bar. once again, quit being a motherfucking hypocrite and lead by example and fucking do something instead of trying to goad another anon into doing it for you.
>No, it is the responsibility of the State to care for it's people, and encourage correct decisions and upstanding moral character, which Hitler did and he was a Nietzschean. 
and yet right before this you advocate the state exerting its will on everything they think is wrong, including holocausting all the gays, christians, and nonwhites.
>No, we have that because our ancestors forgot the meaning of race and it's implications on reality and because multiple generations have utterly failed to pass on any Truth to their children caring more for their own prosperity and the ease of their own lives than for the future of their people.
but you just said truth isn't real, that it means what I want it to mean. how can they objectively pass on a subjective idea?
>History  will judge this era as the beginning of the greatest period of destruction so far in Our race's History(unless you count the possibility of a previous devastating nuclear war as evidenced by radiation signatures in India) and the beginning of the rebirth of the Aryan and his rule of the planet.
finno-korean hyperwar-tier belief.
tl;dr you're a fucking hypocrite that distorts reality and truth to mean only what you want it to mean, advocate genocide of everyone you don't like just like everyone else on the planet but it's ok when we do it because we're the right ones because i said so, but instead of actually doing it yourself you project your retarded beliefs on a backwater tunisian crochet forum in the hopes that one of them is retarded enough to actually kill a handful of spics at the local mart to become hitler 2 and save evrope forever. had your post been any shorter i would consider you a fed, but instead i can see that you're serious about what you believe which makes me hate you all the more.
i really don't care what anyone believes in, but the one thing i will not stand for is hypocrites like you that contradict themselves at every turn and refuse to act out what they believe in.
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>unpopular opinion
Just because your socialism is whites only doesn't make it any less economically retarded than rainbowflag socialism.
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>2nd image
I love when you Christniggers validate the lies of kikes only to prove our point that you are the jew's greatest ally indeed. If you actually learn to do your research and read a book for once you would know that ((( Greenberg ))) was the one who made this assertion, while providing zero evidence other than the mistranslation of the sagas. You also skew over the part where he deliberately mocks your hippie kike as a pozzed messiah. But seeing that your churches are also pozzed. I think that he may "nose" on Jesus sucking off Roman soliders. Your sources are even more retarded, because they come from guys who only site Greenberg as their source or have no understanding of ancient norse. Lol retard.
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>>136
>I didn't bother giving you a legitimate reply because it would only validate your retarded, one-sideed, and ignorant arguments. But I have fuckall else to do today so fuck it.
Your reponse is lacking, as I will demonstrate not only did you not address any of my claims or arguments, you accuse me multiple times of doing what you yourself are doing here
>you're projecting here, i don't care about the darkies, and i think people like cuckservatives that use them to elevate their platform just to prove they're not racist are idiots and only playing into the other side's hand.
No, I am not projecting, I am pointing out your similarity to people who make the same points, and talk exactly like you, do, that you think they're idiots for virtue-signaling blacks and other racial inferiors is immaterial. you ask for the same thing they do "a place for every race", well, the truth is a place for every race results in no place for the White, or the Aryan, race.
>uncle adolf disagrees, pic 1 related
Did some research and Robert Faurission chiefly, and Mikael Nilsson and others dispute it's validity and the original Table Talks less so as we actually do have the original German documents of those and not only have National Socialist translated those, but we have other scholars translating them and using the original german documents as Primary sources on Hitlers beliefs such as Richard Weikart in his Hitler's Religion, as well as similar recollections to it from other compilers such a Heinrich Heim.
Even if the document that quote came from was legitimate, it is a core component of national socialism to recognize that struggle(read:war) is an immutable and unchangeable law of nature. All things in life must engage in violence to survive, whether among themselves or in competition with other species, for we humans our main competitors are other subclades of the Genus Homo.  Germany would have reached a point, if Hitler had won the war,(nd technically they already were nearing that point just from his direct efforts) at which Germany was no longer capable of providing for the number of people it had living within it, and they would have been forced to kill their own, or go to war, for more land on which to live, and the only logical policies when taking land from others for your own people are extermination or expulsion as William Luther Pierce outlined so many times. 
Furthermore Hitler quite literally calls the Germanic race superior in somewhat roundabout ways in Mein Kampf alone, never using Herrenrasse explicitly, but still expounding upon his belief in the Germanic/Nordic/Aryan race alone being capable of the creation of cultures, and civilization.
>you're acting like a jew, enticing others to commit crimes for you. that's why i told you to lead by example, sitting in your safety zone and acting tough and actually doing what you say are two different things. i don't care what you believe in or how retarded it is, but i will not stand for hypocrisy in the slightest.
90% of your post is just KILL 'EM ALL KILL 'EM ALL KILL 'EM ALL so I will ignore them from here on out.
I am not acting like a jew, but I love your false assertion here, and the ridiculous way you project falsity onto me and twist my words in ways that they are obviously not intended to go. I have done no such thing as advocate others do my work for me, I ask that others join me in seeing the truth, and joining me in my cause, if they wish to act alone there is nothing I can do to stop them at present, even if I disagree with what they may or may not be doing. My usage of "you" that you used to twist my qwords against themselves is used in a general sense, similar to how one would use the word one,, as in "one must do X thing if Y". As for your assertion that I do not do as I preach, it is a pointless and fallacious argument, you do not, and cannot, have any information as to how I live my life, whatsoever, I am not encouraging pointless acts of violence whatever you may say merely expounding upon the ideology of National Socialism 
>rome collapsed because of literal schizo emperors and the very ideology that you preach, believing that I can do a far better job than the current ruler, so he gets assassinated, then another guy thinks he can do better than you and kills you, etc., until leadership is so weak and denigrated that not even the legions can defend the empire. if everyone acts like a leader, nobody wins. there have to be followers to actually carry out one single vision.
Rome collapsed because of what I told you, they grew too large and tried pulling themselves too many ways and forgot to preserve the purity of their race, which lead to it's weakening, and the constant internal warfare and weaker and weaker emperors which was greatly exaacerbated by the jews introducing Christianity into Rome.
>pot calling the kettle black. do something yourself, faggot.
What I do, I keep to myself for obvious reasons, no need to address your argument here as you didn't make one, my argument remains unchallenged.
>see pic 1 again
Would Hitler have surrendered Germany to another race just because they lived there first? No, so nor will I surrender the land my ancestors fought to make their own and bequeath to me.
>it's already happening, tick tock nigger. lead by example.
Again  pointless fallacious, seems like you're baiting to get me to "do something" or say something about what I have done, I do what I can every day, what exactly i do will remain unknown and baiting glowniggers and jews can remain oblivious to that.
>and once your white ethnoplanet has been achieved they will find another outgroup to bully and blame all their issues on, and then we'll be right back where we started. whether it's religion or a white subgroup that you perceive as inferior, all of life is a struggle as you said. when the nonwhites are gone, why not bully the slavs next door? or the greeks that worship Zeus and not Thor? they may be white, but they're not YOUR idea of what white is. so let's make them the new pariah, shall we? violence is eternal, you can either fight back against it your entire life or find a fucking compromise that results in less dead whites.
And that is as the gods and Nature will it, may the best subgroup of the Aryan race win, until then we must work together or we will all die, war would happen regardless of what we do, and I personally find it better for us to fight amongst ourselves into eternity rather than continue letting racial enemies kill us. 
>then you're a retard. that is not what religion is. religion is based on the idea of universal, objective truth. you do not bend religion to your will, you bend yourself to religion's will and what your god says is the truth. you are merely using it to try to get holy good boy points in the hope that more people will listen to you.
My religion "preaches" that Aryan men are to exert their will upon the world, in service to the Eternal Natural Law, this has gone by many names under many Aryan cultures, National Socialism is just the most recent.
>and what of the eastern religions? hitler was a fan of dharmic philosophies and taoist principles, as well as shintoism.
No, Hitler was most close to a Pantheist, and Nature was his "God", it was Himmler who looked into and had an affinity to those religions Hitler thought it was a waste of time especially given what they were dealing with.  
>the idea of good and evil, light and dark are very prevalent in those cultures/religions as well. euros didn't create it, it's a universal concept that everyone understands and cannot be claimed to be created by one culture.
Good and evil, light and dark all have similar meanings in those cultures and religions, if you actually look at What Dharma under Vedicisam encompasses it is Most close to what I and Hitler, advocated for, Hinduism is a corruption of the Aryan core of India's religion. Even Japan's indigenous religion is seemingly being built upon some far distant Aryan past probably stemming to the redheaded Aryans mummy's who founded China all those millenia ago.
>so you're saying the only way to lead is through deception and intentionally masking your true beliefs and intentions? who's the jew now?
Even Hitler used deception to accomplish his goals, deception is one front a warrior, and especially a warlord must master, or he will not live very long.
>a warrior that never existed and drank the semen of dead men. hail odin, truly a white savior.
I debunked that personally in a thread on /b/, That is bullshit out of the mouth of a jew based on a poor translation done by a liberal whore, I love it when you retards just prove our point by quoting and putting forward literal jewish propaganda, as fact.
>ow the edge. pic 1 yet again.
Go read Mein Kampf, the Dalton edition, Hitler believed much the same there, and definitely made sure we knew it.
>you are not objectively superior, you are subjectively superior according to your own worldview. as you already stated you have no source of objective truth.
My own worldview is the only worldview which is based on Natural Law, and I have stated no such thing, all living members of the Genus Homo, are memebrs of a subspecies, Aryans and Eyropeans, under one, Mongoloids another, Negroids, Australoids, Asiatics, Semites, and Native Americans others yet still, Preserving the existence of my people is the basis of my religion, which is my worldview, and all Truth flows from that all action one takes even on an individual level must lead towards that goal or they are not on the path to Truth.
>objective truth can only come from a higher power, something above humanity: religion, which, as you stated earlier, you are free to warp and distort to fit your own personal beliefs. so your "objective" source is now "i made it the fuck up", senator armstrong. and don't even fucking try to say that science is objective, with its constantly changing theories and the endless parroting of "we were never wrong, we just got new data".
Objective truth doe not come from Abrahamic source and that is the foundation of your worldview, making your wqorldview a falsity and it is one that makes you an enemy to the cause of National Socialism.
>the nogs were content with themselves in africa.
No, the very existence and the travels of Mans Musa alone disprove this, 
>asia kept to themselves.
No, they didn't, they just didn't get as far in their conquering as Their Mongol brothers and their empire was too fractious to create the will to conquer farther abroad at any rate, but they did raid and sully elements of our race multiple times and not only recently about the only ones this could be said to be true of is Japan, and that only because of isolation ironically caused by christian missionaries.
>the natives also enjoyed their own continent. really it was only islam and the mongols that tried to force their shit onto everyone, and they were kicked out of europe both times. 
The evidence shows that the Clovis people(who appear to have been Nordic peoples) predated the "Native Americans", they killed them all and interbred with the rest, the Mongols only failed to conquer Europe because the Red Haired Blue-eyed Aryan man that became known as Genghis Khan, died before he drove his armies further west, and he is quite directly the reason the Turks and other South Asians were driven out of Europe until our technology levels reached parity enough that we could defend ourselves, by murdering, at historians lowest estimate 4.5 million sandniggers, up to a high of 9 million or more. They would have tried to conquer us regardless of Islam, yes it played a part, but them being lucky and still having access to tracts on technology and philosophy from Rome, had the most to do with it, and they were not driven out by force, each time they tried they overextended themselves, to the point they could not sustain their war effort leading to decisive victories for Europe here and there but each time they took more territory, until finally in WW1, their spine was broken due to their own inablity to adapt and the Ottoman Empire collapsed in upon itself  freeing european territory from Greece to the slavic regions from their control and reducing any further racial mixing that was already done under their rule
>it was euros who started traveling everywhere, trading, interacting and mingling with the cultures and spreading/mixing them across the globe. europe is responsible for globalism.
The Aryan drive is to explore and dominate, that failing to keep the Truth in mind as we did so, is the reason all of our civilizations either collapse in upon themselves, or are taken over by those who can do no more than maintain what we built. 
>projection, not an argument.
Nope, simple truth, you follow Christian(abrahamic) morality which is not based on Natural Law but on the refutation of it.
>projection, not an argument
Nah, you are a faggot, and the bog is calling your name.
>so pull an omar and shoot up your local gay bar. once again, quit being a motherfucking hypocrite and lead by example and fucking do something instead of trying to goad another anon into doing it for you.
Thankfully, I don't have a local gay bar, and even if i did, I would not attack it like a fucking sandnigger, I would make sure it could not reopen as that Orlando gay bar has, if I remember correctly. I am not goading anyone once again here I was merely stating what must be done and why, that you take umbrage with that simply further reveals your own faggotry.
>and yet right before this you advocate the state exerting its will on everything they think is wrong, including holocausting all the gays, christians, and nonwhites.
No exerting it's will on everything that IS wrong, that is against Natural Law, and if that means killing Christians who will not abandon their false doctrine, so be it, and it will and always was going to include killing racial invaders, and homosexuals(most of whom are racial invaders if the studies done on the spread of AIDS and now Monkey Pox, are any indication).
>but you just said truth isn't real, that it means what I want it to mean. how can they objectively pass on a subjective idea?
No, I did not, I said that Truth isn't what you think it is, you are allowed to disagree, and as such allowed to be wrong, but I will tell you that you are.
>finno-korean hyperwar-tier belief.
That is an actual discovery in india, in places no nuclear weapon has ever been there are radiation signatures that match nuclear weaponry, whether that be a primitive dirty bomb or some other thing we cannot even imagine, I do not know.
>tl;dr you're a fucking hypocrite that distorts reality and truth to mean only what you want it to mean, advocate genocide of everyone you don't like just like everyone else on the planet but it's ok when we do it because we're the right ones because i said so, but instead of actually doing it yourself you project your retarded beliefs on a backwater tunisian crochet forum in the hopes that one of them is retarded enough to actually kill a handful of spics at the local mart to become hitler 2 and save evrope forever. had your post been any shorter i would consider you a fed, but instead i can see that you're serious about what you believe which makes me hate you all the more.
I have not distorted the Truth, whatsoever, merely advocated for our return to living according to Natural Law and all that that entails, as such it is not hypocritical of me to advocate for the complete extermination of my racial enemies, nor have I contradicted myself anywhere, nor have I been hypocritical in any other manner, merely dismissive of cowardly positions like your own, and dismissive of people who sit on the sidelines and shit on those taking action, which does not require that I take the same actions as the likes of Breivik, Tarrant, Matthews, Lane and others.
>i really don't care what anyone believes in, but the one thing i will not stand for is hypocrites like you that contradict themselves at every turn and refuse to act out what they believe in.
Good that this does not apply to me then.
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National Socialist's are not communists, Hitler's Socialism is based on race and respects private property and industry, Socialism being associated with communism is a neo-liberal/neoconservative talking point created by the Frankfurt jews who began those schools of thought in the west after they were encouraged to leave Germany.
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((( Ethnoglobe ))) is a stupid idea. Ethnoglobe is not different than what Zionist want. But having ethnostates is a good idea.
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You fill your post with ad hominems and nonarguments because that is the only way you are capable of getting your point across. Your post can be summarized as "source bad", yet you provide no evidence yourself. So allow me to do it for you.
Ergi is used as an insult in ancient Norse that effectively means calling someone or something effeminate. In The Poetic Edda, Odin is referred to as ergi in the context of acting like a woman, that is, through playing instruments and practicing seid, the act of seeing/shaping the future, which were traditionally seen as women's roles. I need not mention Loki and Sleipner. Norse mythology has several instances of sexual degeneracy and debauchery, and there exists plausibility for believing that their idea of sexuality was based in a similar manner to that of Ancient Rome: not of masculine and feminine, but of dominance and submission. Acting dominant was not gay, but being submissive was. While Odin may not have drank jizz, please do not try to claim that Norse mythology is superior to others, when it can be just as degenerate and depraved as any other religion.

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>Your reponse is lacking, as I will demonstrate not only did you not address any of my claims or arguments, you accuse me multiple times of doing what you yourself are doing here
My response is clear and concise. I replied to every single one of your points, and you are trying to dismiss them by denying the arguments in front your eyes. I accuse you accurately of being a hypocrite with no grounding in objective reality, who praises "natural law" yet denies reality, advocates for genocide of nonwhites for reasons that are no more logical or better than the ones nonwhites use to genocide us (and are currently carrying out much more effectively by actually doing something), and hides behind a veil of being a keyboard warrior and claiming to be a savior of the white race when in reality you and I both know damn well that you will continue to do nothing, deluding yourself into believing that anyone not on the inside will somehow find this board, read your posts, drop everything they believe in and bomb their local mosque/church/synagogue. I can only conclude that you are sick with a messiah complex, and you will accomplish nothing.
>No, I am not projecting, I am pointing out your similarity to people who make the same points, and talk exactly like you, do, that you think they're idiots for virtue-signaling blacks and other racial inferiors is immaterial. 
You are absolutely projecting. By saying "they" want to exterminate you, you are implying that "they" means "everyone who is not white". Meaning if I can find a single nonwhite that doesn't want to bury me and my family, your entire argument is moot. You are generalizing the entire planet, believing they all think the same way as you with their race, when in reality most of them don't care whether we exist or not, which does not imply genocide. Normal, healthy people do not spend every waking moment living in fear that their race is going to disappear overnight. You are delusional if you think this way.
>you ask for the same thing they do "a place for every race", well, the truth is a place for every race results in no place for the White, or the Aryan, race.
So Europe is a construct that has no bearing in reality? You are saying that Europe never belonged to the whites, that it is an illusion, that we were never there to begin with? "A separate place for every race" does not mean that Europe stops existing, and I cannot understand where this argument could possibly find a place in your head. It appears as if you have a congenital victim complex, borderline blackpill, that nothing will ever work out for the white man. We have made it this far in history, we are still here, the pendulum will swing back from its apex soon. If "natural law" is true, and only the strongest survive, and you constantly talk about how decayed the white race is, well then maybe evolution has smelled out a different path without us.
>Did some research and Robert Faurission chiefly, and Mikael Nilsson and others dispute it's validity and the original Table Talks less so as we actually do have the original German documents of those and not only have National Socialist translated those, but we have other scholars translating them and using the original german documents as Primary sources on Hitlers beliefs such as Richard Weikart in his Hitler's Religion, as well as similar recollections to it from other compilers such a Heinrich Heim.
So pic 1 of an Ethiopian delegation visiting Germany is a deepfake then, it was never real. If Hitler truly believed that no other race was even remarkable, why even let them in? What kind of leader would invite a foreign nation just to mock them? Exactly. He invited them to improve relations. Unless, of course, it was all 4D chess and he was merely baiting them to his side before he wiped them out as well. Or that congratulating Jesse Owens after his victory in the Olympics was also a ploy. Or allying with Japan just so he could stab them in the back once the USSR collapsed. Unless you can provide solid evidence that he was going to betray every single nonwhite he ever allied with or spoke highly of, your entire point is bunk. Hitler celebrated other races and their culture on several occasions, this being one of many.
>Even if the document that quote came from was legitimate, it is a core component of national socialism to recognize that struggle(read:war) is an immutable and unchangeable law of nature.
"Struggle" does not always mean "war" in your sense that "everything that goes against me must be destroyed in one way only". A struggle can be many things: an economic struggle wherein you have the choice to come to agreements with foreign countries on trade, or declare war, take their land and resources, and kill a few thousand whites in the process. A political stuggle, where you have a constitutional crisis like Russia in 1993, with Yeltsin fighting back against the last grasps of the Supreme Soviet trying to retain power only after taking every diplomatic precaution possible. "Struggle" does not always mean "violence". If the goal of NS is to preserve the white race, why is it so keen on throwing them into combat where thousands of them will never return?
>All things in life must engage in violence to survive, whether among themselves or in competition with other species, for we humans our main competitors are other subclades of the Genus Homo.
That is a close-minded viewpoint that can only see in black and white. You see violence as the only possible answer to every problem. Does symbiosis mean anything to you? Drastically different species can get along by providing something the other needs (clownfish cleaning anemone, anemone recieves nutrients from the clownfish; bird feeds off the residue in a crocodiles teeth, crocodile gets his mouth cleaned of potential infections). The frog and the scorpion is a warning, yet you see it as doctrine.
>Germany would have reached a point, if Hitler had won the war,(nd technically they already were nearing that point just from his direct efforts) at which Germany was no longer capable of providing for the number of people it had living within it, and they would have been forced to kill their own, or go to war, for more land on which to live, and the only logical policies when taking land from others for your own people are extermination or expulsion as William Luther Pierce outlined so many times. 
They were absolutely NOT nearing victory. By the time the Wehrmacht had gotten to the outskirts of Moscow they were exhausted, out of supplies, and beginning to freeze to death. Even if they took the city, the whole rotten structure would not have collapsed; it was evident to the Red Army that the Germans were on the edge, and they absolutely would've been willing to burn their capital a second time if it meant depriving them of victory. Combined with the entire rest of the Western world ganging up on them (whether or not it was "the right choice" is irrelevant, it is what happened), Germany could not hold its own against entire rest of the world. It fucked around and found out.
If a population grows too large to be self-sufficient and can only be sustained through continuous conquest, it is parasitic. What would happen if the entire world became Deutschland? They'd still run into the same problems we're having today: lack of resources, lack of farmland, no nearby habitable planets to move to/take from, etc. Nothing would change. There'd just be no brown emaciated corpses among the white ones since they were killed long ago.
>Furthermore Hitler quite literally calls the Germanic race superior in somewhat roundabout ways in Mein Kampf alone, never using Herrenrasse explicitly, but still expounding upon his belief in the Germanic/Nordic/Aryan race alone being capable of the creation of cultures, and civilization.
So you admit he never directly says it, almost sounding as if he avoided saying it explicitly because he was not sure about it himself. Was ancient china not civilization? Egypt? India? Ethiopia? How do you define "civilization" in such a manner that only whites are capable of creating and sustaining it? How could you possibly do so without resorting to No True Scotsman? Really, I am curious.
>I am not acting like a jew, but I love your false assertion here, and the ridiculous way you project falsity onto me and twist my words in ways that they are obviously not intended to go.
I am not projecting what you are admitting yourself. You claim that there is no objective truth, that religion exists only to validate your claim as the ubermensch, that deception is an acceptable practice on both the enemy and your own people, that all nonwhites are borderline inhuman because they do not meet the requirements we set up to fit ourselves, and that the time will come when we shall reclaim what is ours and wipe the others off the face of the Earth. That is Talmudic law/modern Judaism verbatim.
>I have done no such thing as advocate others do my work for me, I ask that others join me in seeing the truth, and joining me in my cause, if they wish to act alone there is nothing I can do to stop them at present, even if I disagree with what they may or may not be doing.
Your "work" is making blogposts on a backwater forum to preach to the choir. Your "truth" is subjective and has no source of higher confirmation or anything else that could lend it as undeniably superior to another's beliefs. You can absolutely stop someone from doing something stupid by pointing out how vain killing a handful of nonwhites is, including but not limited to how it will be immediately discredited as a lonewolf/glowop/false flag, how in the time it took him to shoot a dozen nonwhites a thousand more were born, how laws will be tightened even more to restrict the white man, and how those in power that are allowing all of this to take place are completely unharmed, unphased, and overjoyed at the new ammunition we have given them. Accelerationism only works if there are several attacks in succession, one after another. If you only have one in an extended period of time, your window of opportunity is gone, and everything is now even worse than before. If you really believe what you say, then you can absolutely stop someone from throwing their life away on something stupid.
>My usage of "you" that you used to twist my qwords against themselves is used in a general sense, similar to how one would use the word one,, as in "one must do X thing if Y".
But the entire rest of your posts carry imply a subliminal message that you are enticing others to follow what you believe in, as if your word is law. You are not suggesting or implying, you are ordering and demanding. Your posts are littered with "I think..." and "I believe...", but it is obvious that you wish for others to think as you do and not question any of it, as implied by your previous statements that deception and usage of religion as a tool should both be used by the NS cause. Your entire belief system is based on bringing others to your side either by force or cleaning out the competition through violence. So please, do not lie to me, yourself, or anyone else here that you're just stating your opinion.
>As for your assertion that I do not do as I preach, it is a pointless and fallacious argument, you do not, and cannot, have any information as to how I live my life, whatsoever, I am not encouraging pointless acts of violence whatever you may say merely expounding upon the ideology of National Socialism 
You are white and European, you post on zzz/fascist/, and you have an awful lot of time to reply to my posts in detail. The fact that you're posting at all implies you haven't done anything violent, at least nothing worth mentioning, as the feds/interpol would've found you real quick. That is a lot of information on how you live your life. Anons have been doxxed with much less to go off of. You say you don't encourage pointless acts of violence, yet you say you won't try to stop someone from throwing their life away to kill nonwhites in a random lone wolf attack. In your black and white NS world, complacency is acceptance. Ergo, you absolutely are encouraging pointless violence by not explicitly speaking against it.
>Rome collapsed because of what I told you, they grew too large and tried pulling themselves too many ways and forgot to preserve the purity of their race, which lead to it's weakening, and the constant internal warfare and weaker and weaker emperors which was greatly exaacerbated by the jews introducing Christianity into Rome.
"Rome" is not a race. There was never any purity to begin with. It was a collection of nomadic european tribes from across the spectrum that settled and mixed together to create "Rome".
It was Christianity that tried to save Rome. Do you not understand how insane they had become towards the end? Burning and crucifying petty criminals at the emperor's dinner table? By the time Christian values were being spread, it was already too late because of the reasons you listed earlier. Please provide some kind of evidence that Christianity is a Jewish construct meant only to subvert their enemies, because Judaism despised Christianity and denounced it then, it does so now, and it will continue to do so until the sun dies. There is no 5D chess being played by Jewish leaders regarding Christianity (the notion of "Judeo-Christian alliance" is only a recent attempt by the Jewish diaspora to try to find a new host to further their parasitic gains, most commonly seen among AIPAC-loving conservacucks). I cannot understand how the early church saying "love thy neighbor" could in any way be responsible for an empire that was already on its deathbed by the time Christianity became prevalent.
>What I do, I keep to myself for obvious reasons, no need to address your argument here as you didn't make one, my argument remains unchallenged.
You keep to yourself because despite all your posturing, you are a paper tiger that will falter at the slightest hint of something going wrong in your life. Let's see how loyal you really stay to your "fuck the system" beliefs when you get evicted and your bank account is closed for hate speech until you repent.
>Would Hitler have surrendered Germany to another race just because they lived there first?
The situation between whites and natives is a unique one, because it is the only scenario where two entire continents were fundamentally changed on a racial scenario. You sure love to talk about how proud you are that your ancestors claimed the Americas and drove the savages out, but you also believe racemixing is wrong. They sure did a lot of raping on their way across the Americas, turning an entire continent into rapebaby-derived "untermensch". That's not very good for the white race now, is it? Your ancestors are responsible for the very people you're fighting against today.
>No, so nor will I surrender the land my ancestors fought to make their own and bequeath to me.
You've already surrendered it by allowing the sandniggers to make their claim to Europe and the negroes to America. You've lost the war, you're just too blind and arrogant to admit it. And for the last time, no, making posts here is not waging war.
>Again  pointless fallacious, seems like you're baiting to get me to "do something" or say something about what I have done, I do what I can every day, what exactly i do will remain unknown and baiting glowniggers and jews can remain oblivious to that.
I am telling you to either live up to your beliefs or stop posturing. You absolutely are not doing everything you could be, I can list off a dozen roles that are more effective than keyboard warrior. Even throwing up "It's Okay To Be White" flyers. But no, you stay here day after day believing you'll save the white race, just not now, when the time is ready. When, motherfucker? You're doing nothing, stop acting like you're hiding behind this abstract wall of "he'll never know". If you're doing something, it certainly isn't tangible.
>And that is as the gods and Nature will it, may the best subgroup of the Aryan race win, until then we must work together or we will all die, war would happen regardless of what we do, and I personally find it better for us to fight amongst ourselves into eternity rather than continue letting racial enemies kill us. 
The gods that you admit aren't real and exist solely to manipulate others, and nature that is currently kicking whites in the dick. You admit that even if whites are the last ones left, it's ok for them to kill each other. It's only when nonwhites are doing the killing that it suddenly becomes not ok. Has it ever occurred to you that the ultimate goal should be to have no enemies at all, that nobody has to kill anyone for any reason? You say that infighting is necessary because there is no other outcome, when in reality it's a mask for the truth that your ideology is self-defeating and will only lead to destruction because "that's nature". You admit that your own belief system is ultimately founded on self-hate and genocide.
>My religion "preaches" that Aryan men are to exert their will upon the world, in service to the Eternal Natural Law, this has gone by many names under many Aryan cultures, National Socialism is just the most recent.
Again, the religion that you admit isn't real. This is schizophrenia. The voices that you have created for yourself that affirm their own beliefs tell you to kill. How could you possibly state that no other religion is right because they employ circular reasoning, when your own religious ideology employs the exact same reasoning to confirm itself?
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>No, Hitler was most close to a Pantheist, and Nature was his "God", it was Himmler who looked into and had an affinity to those religions Hitler thought it was a waste of time especially given what they were dealing with.  
Your idea of the struggle for survival comes directly from the East. Hitler's retelling of struggle was merely him adapting eastern beliefs to fit his political manifesto. To say that Hitler believed in any legitimate higher power, be it God, Odin, Nature, whatever you want to call it, is nonsense; he believed in the same perverted way you do: by not considering the truth, but to how it can be warped and distorted to fit his ambitions.
>Good and evil, light and dark all have similar meanings in those cultures and religions, if you actually look at What Dharma under Vedicisam encompasses it is Most close to what I and Hitler, advocated for, Hinduism is a corruption of the Aryan core of India's religion. 
So you admit that Europe did not discover the idea of dual natures.
>Even Japan's indigenous religion is seemingly being built upon some far distant Aryan past probably stemming to the redheaded Aryans mummy's who founded China all those millenia ago.
Can you provide even a single shred of evidence that shintoism is somehow based on... whatever the fuck you just described? Redhead chinese mummies? What the fuck anon?
>Even Hitler used deception to accomplish his goals, deception is one front a warrior, and especially a warlord must master, or he will not live very long.
I am calling you a hypocrite for saying it's ok to deceive when we do it, but not them. When Israel tried to stage a false flag attack in Egypt, that's not ok, but when the USS Maine exploded it was? How can you not see at this point that your entire ideology is based on hypocrisy?
>I debunked that personally in a thread on /b/, That is bullshit out of the mouth of a jew based on a poor translation done by a liberal whore, I love it when you retards just prove our point by quoting and putting forward literal jewish propaganda, as fact.
Do you think I or anyone else on this site gives a fuck about /b/? Why do you visit such a degenerate section of the site anyways? As stated at the start of my posts there is reasonable doubt that Odin was not as straight and manly as you believe he was.
>Go read Mein Kampf, the Dalton edition, Hitler believed much the same there, and definitely made sure we knew it.
Already went over this, you cannot make an argument that Hitler intended to backstab the nips, and this belief of yours that every nonwhite is out to get you, either passively or actively, is paranoid and delusional.
>My own worldview is the only worldview which is based on Natural Law, and I have stated no such thing, all living members of the Genus Homo, are memebrs of a subspecies, Aryans and Eyropeans, under one, Mongoloids another, Negroids, Australoids, Asiatics, Semites, and Native Americans others yet still, Preserving the existence of my people is the basis of my religion, which is my worldview, and all Truth flows from that all action one takes even on an individual level must lead towards that goal or they are not on the path to Truth.
For the umpteenth time, YOUR religion and YOUR truth are oxymorons. There is no subjective religion or subjective truth. The very defnition of "truth" is something that is all-encompassing, that doesn't care who or what you are, it applies to you under all circumstances. You are claiming that if I stop believing in gravity it no longer applies to me. Stop repeating this utterly fucking retarded argument for your own sake.
>Objective truth doe not come from Abrahamic source and that is the foundation of your worldview, making your wqorldview a falsity and it is one that makes you an enemy to the cause of National Socialism.
Objective truth does not come from NatSoc sources and that is the foundation of your worldview, making your worldview a falsity and it is one that makes you an enemy to the cause of my belief system. What makes your statement more valid than mine?
>No, the very existence and the travels of Mans Musa alone disprove this, 
How could a tiny non-empire in West Africa possibly make any gains in Europe?
>No, they didn't, they just didn't get as far in their conquering as Their Mongol brothers and their empire was too fractious to create the will to conquer farther abroad at any rate, but they did raid and sully elements of our race multiple times and not only recently about the only ones this could be said to be true of is Japan, and that only because of isolation ironically caused by christian missionaries.
Please provide evidence that the nips became isolated solely because of Christianity and not, say, the constant rampaging and unending ethnic cleansing of their mainland neighbors.
>The evidence shows that the Clovis people(who appear to have been Nordic peoples) predated the "Native Americans", they killed them all and interbred with the rest, the Mongols only failed to conquer Europe because the Red Haired Blue-eyed Aryan man that became known as Genghis Khan, died before he drove his armies further west, and he is quite directly the reason the Turks and other South Asians were driven out of Europe until our technology levels reached parity enough that we could defend ourselves, by murdering, at historians lowest estimate 4.5 million sandniggers, up to a high of 9 million or more.
Can you provide a single piece of evidence that Genghis Khan was this aryan savior that you so claim? Do you understand the futility of trying to prove what color eyes and hair someone a thousand years ago had? Do you even have a clear definition of what "aryan" is that is not just "who I say so"? And please elaborate how some warlord in Asia got Turks and South Asians driven out of Europe.
>They would have tried to conquer us regardless of Islam, yes it played a part, but them being lucky and still having access to tracts on technology and philosophy from Rome, had the most to do with it, and they were not driven out by force, each time they tried they overextended themselves, to the point they could not sustain their war effort leading to decisive victories for Europe here and there but each time they took more territory, until finally in WW1, their spine was broken due to their own inablity to adapt and the Ottoman Empire collapsed in upon itself freeing european territory from Greece to the slavic regions from their control and reducing any further racial mixing that was already done under their rule
This is wild conjecture. The Ottomans were successful only because of stolen European technology and tactics? And not, say, massive manpower, a common belief in Islam/Allah, hugely skilled horse trainers, and geographic superiority? They were only successful because they stole from the white man? And yet they were so weak that it took the entire West focusing on them to bring them down? Anon, it's ok to admit that they were better.
>The Aryan drive is to explore and dominate, that failing to keep the Truth in mind as we did so, is the reason all of our civilizations either collapse in upon themselves, or are taken over by those who can do no more than maintain what we built. 
The Aryan drive is to spread civilization and culture, not rape and pillage their way across a continent like the nonwhites you so despise. But it's ok when we do it because muh struggle.
>Nope, simple truth, you follow Christian(abrahamic) morality which is not based on Natural Law but on the refutation of it.
And they're still here. If natural law is true, Christianity should've died out long ago for being meek and submissive. Yet 2000 years later it's still around and has the most followers in the world. Meanwhile "strong" paganism is now nothing more than fairy tales worshipped by a handful of online atheists that traded their fedoras for rune necklaces. Many of them nonwhite, mind you.
>Nah, you are a faggot, and the bog is calling your name.
So now you're calling me gay. You said earlier I couldn't possibly know how you live, so how do you know what I do?
>Thankfully, I don't have a local gay bar, and even if i did, I would not attack it like a fucking sandnigger, I would make sure it could not reopen as that Orlando gay bar has, if I remember correctly.
How, through legislation in the corrupted, jew-controlled governement? Spurring your local community to action that is brainwashed by said jew government? Or are you implying arson or some other alternative destructive method, because burning down a gay bar is much more civilized and cultured than shooting it up. Ask Tyrone for some malt liquor to make a molotov out of.
>I am not goading anyone once again here I was merely stating what must be done and why, that you take umbrage with that simply further reveals your own faggotry.
Solving a problem is a three step process: identify the problem, propose the solution, and enact the solution. If you are not going to do all three, then don't even fucking bother. Otherwise you just appear as you do now: a fencesitting hypocrite that acts holier-than-thou who deludes himself into believing he's doing something.
>No exerting it's will on everything that IS wrong, that is against Natural Law, and if that means killing Christians who will not abandon their false doctrine, so be it, and it will and always was going to include killing racial invaders, and homosexuals(most of whom are racial invaders if the studies done on the spread of AIDS and now Monkey Pox, are any indication).
Wrong according to your circular reasoning belief system and natural law which is either tilted against the white race if it's allowing them to be genocided like they are now, or flat out doesn't exist if Christianity is proof of anything.
>No, I did not, I said that Truth isn't what you think it is, you are allowed to disagree, and as such allowed to be wrong, but I will tell you that you are.
You have not stated what truth is, which is why I have to explain it to you: it is universal. It does not care if you are a 300lb hulking olympic weightlifter or morbidly obese beefgoblin tumblr warrior. It applies to everyone equally, and is grounded in a higher power that you can't comprehend.
>That is an actual discovery in india, in places no nuclear weapon has ever been there are radiation signatures that match nuclear weaponry, whether that be a primitive dirty bomb or some other thing we cannot even imagine, I do not know.
Anon, please tell me what you think is more logical: interstellar, transgalactic hyperwar that took place exclusively on the Indian subcontinent or poos doing dumb shit with fission reactors and yellowcake?
>I have not distorted the Truth, whatsoever, merely advocated for our return to living according to Natural Law and all that that entails, as such it is not hypocritical of me to advocate for the complete extermination of my racial enemies, nor have I contradicted myself anywhere, nor have I been hypocritical in any other manner, merely dismissive of cowardly positions like your own, and dismissive of people who sit on the sidelines and shit on those taking action, which does not require that I take the same actions as the likes of Breivik, Tarrant, Matthews, Lane and others.
The natural law that is presently telling the white race to lay down and die, and they are accepting it. You can absolutely find a way to survive and help the white cause that does not involve killing everyone that is not white, by starting with small victories that are actually attainable. Fine a pure white wife. Have plenty of children. Raise them in the correct manner. Teach them the evils of modern society and hope they reflect your same disposition towards life.
You have contradicted yourself on numerous occasions, primarily your incorrect belief in a personal and not objective truth, believing that natural law is on your side at the moment or that it even exists at all, and lying to yourself that you are presently doing anything that gives any tangible effect on helping whites. You employ hypocrisy by identifying the problems facing whites but taking no action to enact them. Your arguments are circular, illogical, and can be applied to the other side just as much as it can be applied to ours.
>Good that this does not apply to me then.
It damn well does.

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How about explaining how ethnoglobe is Zionist instead of being vague? Jews don't want to replace all humans other than Whites. Nothing in Zion implies that only jews should inhabit the earth, especially when the Old Testament and Kabbalah, and Talmud all command the kikes to enslave all gentiles. Jews also have no problem in allowing gentiles to exist as long as we are under their command. Some gentiles can even become jews if they improve themselves worthy. If anything 22c97's retarded beliefs that we should become ethnopluralists, something that National Socialism would of ridiculed, is literal Zionism. 

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>You fill your post with ad hominems and nonarguments because that is the only way you are capable of getting your point across.
You've been doing just that throughout your post. Stop calling something you don't like a logical fallacy and act as if invalidates what I said. Either respond in counter-argument or stop bitching and acting like a psued. 

>Ergi is used as an insult in ancient Norse that effectively means calling someone or something effeminate.
The fact that such a words exists contradicts any notion that the Norse were queer. But the fact that this word gets confused as "homosexual" is retarded anyway, Because it was used to emphasis a man's masculinity, not sexuality. The type to confuse it with homosexuality are usually Jesuits and leftists.

>Odin is referred to as ergi in the context of acting like a woman
>Accuse of me not bringing up any sources
>doesn't bring up any sources for claims
>takes the action of sedir out of context
>inb4 you link some jews
He was called ergi for practicing seidr. No where was Odin ever called Ergi in the Poetic Eddas in the full and literal context. 

>I need not mention Loki and Sleipner. Norse mythology has several instances of sexual degeneracy and debauchery
The Eddas only talk of degeneracy in negative light. Which is why Loki, when ever he does something that no normal man or god would do, is seen as foolish for he is the God of foolery and a disgrace amongst the gods for his deviancy. But the Loki bestiality story isn't even correctly translated as many interpretations go back and forth in arguing that Loki never actually had sex with Sleipner. The pozzed interpretation of the story was written by a Christian, anyways, especially one who thinks that anyone who try to be Loki who was also detested throughout Scandinavia. who confuses both word "sex" and "transform". Larrington is also a contributor to this lie, for she is not even fluent in Ancient Norse. Most of her sources come from others who claim to be fluent and one of those "professionals" also happen to be ((( Greenberg ))). What is even dumber is that everyone confuses the mythological sagas as the man-centered historical ones and think that the vikings would do any of what Odin or Loki did, especially when Loki is not even a god to be worshiped, but as an example that not all gods are "good" and perfect and sedir is not practice that a human male could ever do. 

>and there exists plausibility for believing that their idea of sexuality was based in a similar manner to that of Ancient Rome: not of masculine and feminine, but of dominance and submission.
Is this something you made up out of your ass, again? The existence of Romans laws debunks you, women weren't allowed to inherit wealth and power since the Roman Kingdom. Even a Christcuck Romanboo would call you out on this blatant lie. There was no dominance and submission hierarchy nor has such a case ever existed, as woman were simply not allowed to hold office, because they were seen to be more prone to corruption and are far more gullible, aka femininity, this was true for the Germanics as well.

>please do not try to claim that Norse mythology is superior to others, when it can be just as degenerate and depraved as any other religion.
There was no implication that I thought of this at all. All of fabrications of Norse mythos being degenerate are of Christian and queer lies. Don't claim your jew religion is superior to others, when your churches are all pozzed, your largest converts are niggers and gays, and you worship a fictional hippie rabbi.
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>You've been doing just that throughout your post.
As have you. The point is moot.
>Stop calling something you don't like a logical fallacy and act as if invalidates what I said.
Fallacious arguments can and should be spotted and identified, as it proves to the arguer that his arguments are based on illogical and fallacious reasoning that potentially undermines his argument and renders his entire point null. It absolutely invalidates what you said. I will not ignore false reasoning just because you ask me to, it is you who needs to work on fixing his arguments so that they are logically sound and valid. Stop burying the issue.
>Either respond in counter-argument or stop bitching and acting like a psued. 
There is no counter-argument here because that implies you had one to begin with. Your entire point remains "source bad".
>The fact that such a words exists contradicts any notion that the Norse were queer.
How? Queer still implies that there is masculine and feminine, just that it is on a spectrum instead of clear-cut straight and gay. Something can be defined as either masculine or feminine, it's just that the lines between them are blurred. Would also like to make it clear right now that queerfaggotry is still faggotry. I despise their made-up rules and laws, but masculine and feminine roles exist and are very clear cut.
>But the fact that this word gets confused as "homosexual" is retarded anyway, Because it was used to emphasis a man's masculinity, not sexuality.
The two are inseparably linked. Masculinity/femininty are 100% tied to sexuality. If it walks, talks, and acts like a homo, it is one. Can you provide a single, unbiased, cleanly-translated source for what ergi actually means? Or will you just dismiss every translation except the single one out of a thousand that fits your idea of what it means?
Zoega, 1910: unmanly, effeminate, cowardly (sem fyrir úlfi örg geit rynni) ;
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:2003.02.0002:entry=argr
Cleasby, 1874: ARGR, adj. [Paul Diac. inertem et inutilem et vulgari verbo 'arga,' 6. 24; A. S. earg, ignavus; the Scottish arch or argh, v. Jamieson sub voce; and the mod. Engl. arch, archness; Germ. arg; Gr. GREEK], emasculate, effeminate, an abusive term
Also see Folke Strom's essay on ergi and its usage in Norse culture, page 4
http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/Nid,%20ergi%20and%20Old%20Norse%20moral%20attitudes.pdf
This is long before any kind of poz. Accept that it's the norse equivalent of calling some a fag.
>The type to confuse it with homosexuality are usually Jesuits and leftists.
There is nothing to confuse it with anything. It is cut-and-dry. To be called ergi is to be called a fag, a coward, a cuck, etc., you get the idea.
>Accuse of me not bringing up any sources
Because you didn't.
>doesn't bring up any sources for claims
See above.
>takes the action of sedir out of context
What context, the one that fits it to something you don't like?
Here are two translations of the Lokasenna, in both of them Loki implies that Odin acts as a seidr and implies that it carries a feminine trait.
https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe10.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20060218173051/http://www.northvegr.org/lore/poetic3/015.php
What else would be be insulting him for? The entire poem is Loki being a dick to everyone, so obviously he would use insults that he knew could not be defended and would get a reaction.
>He was called ergi for practicing seidr.
Yes, because it was seen as a woman's role.
>No where was Odin ever called Ergi in the Poetic Eddas in the full and literal context. 
You can connect the dots between seidr and ergi quite clearly. Loki called Odin a faggot.
>The Eddas only talk of degeneracy in negative light.
The fact that it mentions degeneracy at all in any sort of depth implies latent faggotry. Why does it need to go into any sort of detail? Instead of saying "Loki fucked a horse, don't do that", why does it go into detail about it?
>Which is why Loki, when ever he does something that no normal man or god would do, is seen as foolish for he is the God of foolery and a disgrace amongst the gods for his deviancy. 
Again, why does it describe such deviancy in-depth? Why does the religion that you so love and hold dear as EVROPEAN CVLTVRE filled with such rampant displays of faggotry and smut?
>But the Loki bestiality story isn't even correctly translated as many interpretations go back and forth in arguing that Loki never actually had sex with Sleipner.
Proofs. Find me at least three translations of how it fits your narrative.
>The pozzed interpretation of the story was written by a Christian, anyways, especially one who thinks that anyone who try to be Loki who was also detested throughout Scandinavia, who confuses both word "sex" and "transform"
Again, proofs. Compare and contrast the "clean" and "pozzed" translations.
>Larrington is also a contributor to this lie, for she is not even fluent in Ancient Norse.
And you are? What is your criteria for fluency? They can't include words/contexts you don't like?
>Most of her sources come from others who claim to be fluent and one of those "professionals" also happen to be (((  Greenberg  ))).
Proofs.
>What is even dumber is that everyone confuses the mythological sagas as the man-centered historical ones and think that the vikings would do any of what Odin or Loki did, especially when Loki is not even a god to be worshiped, but as an example that not all gods are "good" and perfect and sedir is not practice that a human male could ever do. 
You're missing the point, some old viking wrote these stories and included numerous accounts of in-depth, highly-detailed degeneracy, then spins around and says "don't do this". He wrote smut and then told others not to be gay. Hypocrisy. Just because humans can't do seidr doesn't mean retards don't try it. You have plenty of Tumblr witches that tried to bring down the Taliban through their gayass rituals and fucking lost in their own fantasy world. People will try anything, and if you drink the Norse koolaid enough you start to believe that what you're doing is actually working. Meaning someone somewhere has tried to practice the norse pansy future-sense ritual because your ancient texts told him about it.
>Is this something you made up out of your ass, again?
Ancient rome considered fucking their boy slaves as not gay, but giving oral to a woman as turbogay. Sex was based on status; two freemen fucking was gay, but a master fucking his male slave was not. You see this in several ancient texts, such as the Satyricon, the second book of Virgil's Eclogue and poems by Catallus, Tibullus, and Propertius. Pic related was also found in Pompeii and was paired with several other depictions of sexual art that were seen as ironic and extreme; you can clearly the dominant female contrasted against the submissive male.
http://library.lol/main/EF5E0DBF78C071D36F9B3D46A98B00BF
http://library.lol/main/626BBDF1614A70B289207405D25AAC8E
http://library.lol/main/9E1EFAEC67EEA5CD8907B25B18D592C6
http://library.lol/main/4DBFF8ECA79FB7DD3B6C0857BE1360FB (for more on the context of pic related)
Read a book.
>The existence of Romans laws debunks you, women weren't allowed to inherit wealth and power since the Roman Kingdom.
I am talking about the Roman concepts of masculine and feminine/dominane and submission and you're trying to argue property law. See above.
>Even a Christcuck Romanboo would call you out on this blatant lie.
See above.
>There was no dominance and submission hierarchy nor has such a case ever existed, as woman were simply not allowed to hold office, because they were seen to be more prone to corruption and are far more gullible, aka femininity, this was true for the Germanics as well.
I am arguing in terms of sexuality, not political structure. Patricians fucked their boy slaves and this was seen as normal and not gay, since slaves were seen as property and not human, ergo it can't be gay.
>There was no implication that I thought of this at all.
You are absolutely implying it by constantly calling me a Christcuck, indirectly placing Norse mythology above Christianity.
>All of fabrications of Norse mythos being degenerate are of Christian and queer lies.
Loki called Odin a faggot for partaking in female magic rituals. Norse mythos contain vulgar, explicit, and detailed accounts of degenerate behavior, then acts as a hypocrite by saying not to do what the author just did. The very existence of ergi proves that there was a need for such a word to call Norsemen fags.
>Don't claim your jew religion is superior to others, when your churches are all pozzed, your largest converts are niggers and gays, and you worship a fictional hippie rabbi.
Paganism attracts nonwhites from across the globe who try to worship Odin just as you do. Look at your local paganists and see what their demographics are made up of: mutts and nogs. You worship gods that don't exist who spent their time getting shitfaced, writing gay smut, and doing gay sex magic, then telling their followers not to do what they just did.
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>my response is clear and concise....
No, it isn't, you are quite literally pulling pilpul even right here, I have addressed your every argument, I have not denied a response to even a single of your points, your accusation of me being a hypocrite is not only inaccurate it out right false and born out of you trying and failing to twist my words in ways it is beyond obvious that they are not intended to go, I praise Natural Law as it is an objective thing upon which to base morality, and doing so is an originally Aryan and thus European Idea, the Aryans of India were invaders of what is now known as the Indian subcontinent on two separate occasions thousands of years apart and even modern scholarship admits that the original Aryan inhabitants as well as the second wave of Aryan invaders came from the north, and the Vedas itself paints a picture of a home in the Arctic, and that is covered by Artic Home in the Vedas. 
My reasons for advocating complete genocide of all off or racial enemies do not need to be, nor is it required anywhere that they be, better than their reasons, nor do I claim that they are. Once again your assertion that I am not doing anything is a dishonest assertion as is your further false assumption that I will continue to do nothing or that my goal is to get people to bomb anything, it is not and your continued pushing of that narrative is actually quite telling as to what you are and what your goal here is.
 There have been newfaggots who have come in and learned from us and joined our cause, not just here but many of the other places I have frequented as well, some stay, some go. It just so happens that I have free time this weekend, and consented to engage in an argument with you, despite your poor showing and laughable lack of knowledge in anything in relation to; the history of the Aryan Race, National Socialism, Fascism, or even this board, or the topics that have been discussed here over the last 5 years.
Your last insult is merely further confirmation that you are in fact a Jew, and also probably a fed, making up medical disorders that I must have because I disagree with you and wish to defend my race to the point of doing unto them as they would do unto me and mine, a little rule posited by Aryans long before Christians ever got their hands on it.
>You are absolutely projecting...
Nope, you see all of them do want our destruction, and everything around us proves that. The niggers of Africa do not stop their brethren from fleeing there and heading to Europe. The same with India and pretty much every European nation in the world, ditto for china, and so on and so on. Finding one nigger/spic/kike who claims "no we don't want that", whatever the truth of that individuals claim does not invalidate my point or my claims. We have numerous examples that belay that lie, right here in the USA, the most recent is Mayra Flores a so called "conservative" non-white invader who came in, campaigned against Amnesty and then turned around and voted for it when it came up, in flagrant violation of her own campaign promises. This is extremely common for every racial enemy group, no matter what country they're in, to agree with what the ostensibly White side wants and promise what it wants so that they can achieve power, and then vote against the interests of that White side, while continuing to talk like they want to aid that side. This happens in every White Nation on the planet from fucking Scotland to New Zealand, It's basic deception and you completely ignore it. Your entire assertion assumes that because an invader would ever deign to claim that they do not want us all to die that, that one individuals existence means I should treat them all like friends, and be helpful and waste resources better served used on my people to get them home. All because they said pretty, nice, words and claimed they wanted to help me while being in my nation and taking resources from me, lowering my wages, and in far too many cases leeching off of what was once my government? You want me to send this deceiver home, so that he can warn his people that we are purging our lands of their kind, whether peacefully or not? No, better to kill them and make better use of those resources that would have been wasted by removing the problem entirely and then taking their land and resources for the use of my own people.
I do not live in fear, nor do I spend every waking moment that way, it is a fact that our race is disappearing, we are less than 8% of the Global population and even in 2000 something David Lane posited that and that less than a quarter of that is of child-bearing age, our situation is dire and getting more dire by the day.
>So Europe is a construct...
Europe is a place, a physical place and again yet more pilpul. What I am saying is that your rhetoric and the methods you wish to use will lead to our extinction as surely as can be. You are just another faggot who professes to care but does not want to know what the most effective path is because it might be difficult, and what is actually necessary to take our countries back whether in Europe or elsewhere. Like you, most don't know, or care that the Nordic Resistance Movement, while ostensibly being National Socialists, in fact, plan to keep invaders around in Sweden and the other Nordic countries in the event they ever came to power, based on their merit, or if they think they cannot be repatriated, and there is no advocacy for sterilization within NRM's document either. That alone demonstrates, that you and those like you do not actually want to practice racial hygiene, nor do you want to prevent this sullying from ever occurring again. 
>It appears as if...
You're still retarded enough to buy into the kike created idea of congenital mental illness, (and not the trauma model, which is just fucking ridiculous) 
 and making up bullshit out of thin air, both in an attempt to confuse the issue, aka pilpul, you presume to be optimistic which in and of itself is faulty, as to make correct decisions about how to do something one must look at what is, and what is most likely to be, not what you wish things to be.
Lastly, I will quote Savitri Devi here: "If my comrades are not destined to rule the world, then away with it! A shower of atom bombs upon it and in place of it's meaningless chatter about 'love' and 'peace', the voice of the howling wind over it's ruins."
So as she put either we win totally and completely, or everybody dies, but if we should fail even in that, it was Nature's Will, and as Nature wills it, I will be sure to fight right to the end for victory, or death.
>So pic 1
That was taken in 1934ish and was done(along with some martial aid) as a slight to Mussolini who had prevented Hitler from annexing Austria, which Hitler was rightfully furious about, as the unity of the German people was of great importance to him, and his National Socialist cause. it had little to do with any like of Ethiopians themselves. So, no he didn't invite them to improve relations, he did it to fuck Mussolini back, so more like your poor attempt at humor with the 4d chess comment, and if I recall he did later aid Italy in conquering Ethiopia.
His being nice to a guest in his country who had performed well, in the case of Jesse Owens, was simply him being quite honorable and a hospitable host, nothing wrong with that and is perfectly in line with his personal character.
As for Japan they were distant enough he probably didn't intend an immediate betrayal, they were granted honorary Aryan status because he saw kindred spirits in them, but he probably would regret that he had allied with them and declared war on the US for them, considering how it all turned out. I need not provide evidence that Hitler was going to do anything, Hitler had a more optimistic view because things were in a much better state for our race at that time he felt he could afford alliances that would benefit Germany even if they would, or might, eventually be active enemies. 
>"Struggle" does not always mean "war"... 
Yes it does, war can be any conflict from one within oneself to that between two individuals to multiple nations, from a shouting match to physical conflict. Second that is not what I said, nor is it what I implied, I said the best solution to our current problem is to solve it permanently, a Final Solution, if you will. 
Economic Struggle = Trade War, not necessarily traditionally violent but often has some casualties
Political struggle, generally civil war or revolution, can be extremely bloody or nearly bloodless, still violent.
Elections are often bloodless but as we see in recent years they can be contested just as fervently and violently as revolutions though yes physical violence is not always necessary, moral violence is nearly always utilized by one side or the other if physical violence is not.
The goal of the National Socialist is as David Lane so beautifully put it: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"
To wit, the future of our Race is more important than the lives of many of it's sons, the fight today and the losses incurred are nothing so long as that that future is guaranteed.
>That is a close-minded...
First that is false, that is the way things are, it's not close-minded to acknowledge a basic fact of reality, all things do engage in violence for basic survival from the lowliest microbacterium to the Blue Whale nothing is an exception. Second, I see violence as the best solution to the problems our race faces right now, and a permanent solution at that. Violence is not always ideal and there are many situations it does more harm than good.
Your symbiosis crap is just that crap kikes are not symbiotic with us, but parasites, and particularly virulent ones, as are all the oithers to greater or lesser degrees.
>They were absolutely NOT nearing victory.
You really need to learn to read, I was nowhere implying they were close to victory.
No, if a population grows too large for it's living space going elsewhere and killing others for theirs is one way to ensure you have the needed living space and more resources with which to continue to grow, although at some point they need to decide whether they wish to continue growing or find a happy medium and defend what they have while maintaining population, not really a concern for us as of yet and it won't be for a very long time after this is all done. As for nothing changing, one prerequisite fgor seeing the stars is complete control of ones planet's resources and energy if not that of ones local star, freeing us from the possibility of racial enemies killing us may lead to more conflict between us but could just as easily lead to unity and a return of honorable warfare meant to control our populations and make us ever stronger.
>So you admit he never directly says it,
 No, he directly says it in chapter 11 of Mein Kampf multiple times but he does not use term Herrenrasse, which is the term for master race but he frequently uses superior and inferior and quite directly implies that the Germans are the best of the Germanic race.
>I am not projecting what you are admitting yourself.
I'd love to know who the fuck you're arguing with because it's not me, your first two assertions I have never claimed, as Natural Law is objective, and I never claimed that religion only exists to validate the Ubermench, I said that my religion directs me as an Aryan to exert my will upon the planet, In service to Nature and it's Will, Natural Law, taught to us through experience and observation, can this lead awry, yes, but one must falter to grow, one must fail to succeed. Deception was used by Hitler on both the German people and his enemies, this is a prime rule of leadership and war, no matter your racial heritage so no matter your stupid objections to it, it will happen regardless. Finally, no, the Talmud states that every Jew will have one thousand goy slaves they do not want all other races dead, they just want us dead as they, correctly, believe that the others will not be a threat to them or their power. 
>Your "work"
The entire point of accelerationism is to make shit worse to push racial conflict into occuring, as it naturally does, and as it turns out the left is stupidly doing that entirely without our help. One should never interrupt his enemy when he is making a mistake, aid him in doing so. Most of your bullshit here is just whining about shit having happened, and I have done many a time exactly as you advocate, maybe it worked, maybe it didn't, but I can do nothing more than that to stop those who are determined to take action, and when they do, I will point out where they could have done better but I would never disavow them, as you do, they took action, and even poorly done they pushed things further and I would absolutely not advocate something as worthless as IOTBW stickers or stickers of any sort because they do nothing at all.
It should also be noted Gendron didn't actually make anything worse, he popped up for a week and then they memory-holed it they went right back to Jan. 6th as their justification for everything, showing that they do not need us to provide a justification for whatever tyranny they wish to inflict.
>But the entire rest
 So what if I do wish for others to believe as I do? It is only natural to desire comrades, and no I would prefer these comrades question it or how else will they learn from me or I from them? And yes I do believe in bringing people to my side by force and by cleaning out the competition, but this is how all beliefs spread themselves, so that's nothing special.
>You are white and European
Again more bullshit just to insult me intending to elicit a reaction into me revealing what I have done, you're not getting that here bud, yes, I post here but that's all you know, and no, they haven't, I've been in doxing circles to see how they operate and they despise imageboards because they're difficult to crack and you can't link info through more than a single thread at best, everyone who has been doxed on a place like this has done one thing you do not do on imageboards revealing info about yourself or your actions
The rest of your bullshit is just making up more bullshit based off your earlier bullshit.
>"Rome" is not a race. There was never any purity to begin with. 
Read Who We Are, or March of the Titans, or just search for descriptions of romans prior to the second Punic war, they were predominantly Blonde and Blue-eyed, with a good number of redheads as well just like the Hellenes, and even into 100CE they acknowledged the North(Germanic lands) as their Urheimat. They were a single tribe who rose to dominance, and they failed to preserve their purity past the mid-late republican period when they started to sell off daughters into marriages with lessers for money.
that shit is christnigger propaganda about Nero, the evidence shows he didn't do any shit like that, that he didn't even know christains existed or if he did thought they were jews(because they were). Sure, he had a fucked up relationship with his mom and that caused him all sorts of personal issues and was a huge contributor to some of his degenerate acts, but he was far more Honorable and Noble than the traitor Constantine. You want evidence go read FRDH, I posted a link to it in the literature thread, that book and everything contained within it, is all you'll get from me.
>You keep to yourself... 
>Let's see how loyal...
oooh more "you won't keep your beliefs if you face difficulties because of them", so fucking ridiculous gtfo, you're just fucking dumb at this point. 
>Americas
No, claimed America, as in the US faggot, and they didn't do that, they just let the natives kill themselves and die of disease so much so they have all but disappeared entirely. So, no, my ancestors aren't responsible for that, quit trying to be wise and perceptive, you really suck at it, but what else would I expect of a jew.
>You've already surrendered it by allowing the sandniggers to make their claim to Europe and the negroes to America.
 I had no part in that happening, haven't been alive nearly long enough to have, but now who's blackpilling?
>You absolutely are not doing everything you could be.
Blah blah blah, talky talky insulty insulty pilpully pilpul. if I do what I do well, you will never know I have done it, and whether you hear mention of it or not, isn't up to me.
>The gods... not real...
Where did I say that? Oh, I didn't, I said the stories were used to teach ideas which were easier for people to digest, I said nothing about the existence of the gods or not.
> and exist solely
Nope, and Nature is a harsh mistress, survival is a brutal zero sum game, and we haven't been acting in accord with her wishes for a very long time.
>It's only when...
No, I never said it was "not-ok" for the non-whites to do as nature commands them, I oppose it because I oppose them because they oppose me. but that says nothing of the morality of their actions. I said that, I, personally, am okay with Whites killing off all the non-whites and then killing each other into eternity, as that means my race's future is assured for eternity getting ever stronger as time goes on, does that mean no periods of peace? No, but it means that war will never die, Nature would never allow it,  Peace is boring, and breeds weakness, war is exciting, and breeds strength and intelligence and strengthens the character of men, and not engaging in it for far too long is one huge reason we are as degenerate, as a race, as we are today. All the rest of your bullshit is just that bullshit, I don't hate Whites, I love them, unless they're traitors.
>Again, the religion that you admit isn't real.
Where? I did no such thing, you're just claiming that's what I said. Do you somehow think that using deception at all or admitting that some of the myths were obviously stories made to teach a lesson is somehow an admission that I do not believe in the gods or that they are not real? That is unequivocally not the case
and also where is my supposed circular reasoning here?
if you are trying to claim that talking of Natural law, that which is observable fact about the world, that one can observe for one's own self, is circular reasoning, you're an idiot.
and where did I say that circular reasoning was Why the others were false?
>Your idea of the struggle for survival
No, it was already there in Germanic religious thought and mythohistory which, despite much christian suppression, still remained, and to a lesser degree remains, a part of the Germanic consciousness.
>be it God, Odin, Nature, 
Odin and Nature, most definitely not your Jewish God YHWH.
>So you admit that Europe...
No, as Europe is a people, we are the race that created the Vedic scriptures.
>Can you provide
We have learned that China originated from an Aryan tribe who came to dominance in what is now western china, I posit that perhaps the japanese have the largest portion oif that blood remaining, it is possible given they lived 4000 years ago.
>I am calling you a hypocrite..
When have I ever said this, honestly who the fuck are you arguing with? I can oppose them doing it as they seek to kill my people, but that says nothing, nor does it claim to, of the morality of their actions.
>As stated....
I don't care what you think about my having contributed a post to a /b/ thread, I was telling you where to find the information. No, there really isn't reasonable doubt.
>Already went....
I never did, I merely debunked that picture quote with ways for you to find the evidence for yourself. This was in response to your "I am not a fascist" and me correctly calling you an enemy, to which I simply said read Mein Kampf, which you obviously won't do.
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>For the umpteenth time...
 I stated how my religion is based on Objective Truth, you deny that, so you deny the Truth, Natural Law is the only thing which applies in all circumstances to all things, you do not need to understand it fully, nor does it need to be fully understandable for it to be true. With gravity alone we can demonstrate that it does, even in the deepest of dark space, gravity is still there, still has an effect, it may be much lesser  than anywhere near a planet or star, but it's still there.
>What makes your statement more valid than mine?
I have demonstrated several times on this board in the past, how Christianity is and always has been false right down to when it was simply Judaism, many times, and the reason it is false, is that it is built on a near complete negation of Natural Law and  a negation of the primacy of Nature, just like it's daddy judaism, just like islam.
>How could a tiny non-empire in West Africa
It was an example of niggers NOT STAYING IN THEIR LAND, what he did and what he acquired and the effect of his travels is immaterial.
>Please provide evidence that the nips...
That's what happened, Christian missioniaries came, started converting their people, which caused no end of problems so, they shut down their borders purged the christniggers, and killed any intruders from that point on until outsiders could overwhelm them.
>Can you provide a single piece of evidence
Savitri Devi goes over the evidence of what I mentioned here in Lightning And The Sun.
>This is wild conjecture. 
And also the truth, and where did I claim it was solely due to that? where did I discount their good fortune in having access to manpower and many other such things? and the entire west never unified to drive them out, nor did it take them down, the ottomans had influence over large stretches of Europe right up until WW1, when the Empire collapsed.
>not rape and pillage 
This is what we've always done though, from Ancient Hellas to modern day, you don't "spread civilization and culture" by being nice or gentle.
>And they're still here
And that is because to survive they must have some small element that doesn't completely contradict Natural law to survive, and Christianity would have died out if it didn't start with the jews, their subversive nature is the only reason it gained any ground at all, and the only reason it gained any ground anywhere else in europe as white christians emulated it fairly well against their own.
There are no non-white followers of our gods, they are neochristians attracted to an aesthetic, who still follow abrahamic morality.
>Wrong according to
Wrong according to natural law, and no, Natural Law is stacked against everybody, it fucks everyone equally, unless you follow it, then it shows the way to prosperity, to strength, to victory.
 >it is universal. 
I said this repeatedly, and that christianity and the bullshit it depicts isn't objective or moral, nor is it grounded in a power outside reality, it is here and all around us, observable for anyone to see.
>Anon, please tell me what you think...
considering the signatures radiation level is very very low showing that it happened a very long time ago, and there is a concerted effort by your kind to hide and obfuscate history, I think it more likely that the Aryans who inhabited that place had something to do with it before poos sprang from the unfortunate mixing between the Dravidian race and ours.
 >The natural law that is presently telling the white race to lay down and die, and they are accepting it. 
Natural law has never said that, that is a direct result of Christian morality and it's negation of Natural law and focus on guilt for ones own nature and natural impulses 
I do not want to find a way that doesn't involve killing all non-whites, because that would be a half measure and would not be a permanent solution to our problem.
and your assumption that I think it must all be done at once is fallacious and frankly retarded. Could it be done in just my own lifetime? certainly. Will it? probably not, but I will make certain the outcome I desire and my beliefs demand is affected on the planet.
>You have contradicted yourself on numerous occasions, 
I have contradicted myself nowhere, I believe at the core of my beliefs, in Natural Law, the only objective standard for anything, is it open to interpretation on many grounds? sure but it is observable for anyone and treats everyone the same way, and it demands that I fight my hardest to survive and that I fight for my Race to survive even above my own survival, and the only way that there is to ensure the permanent( barring a cosmic accident that destroys earth itself) survival of my race is to exterminate ALL enemies of my race from those within to those without.
I already have a wife btw, you can take your bullshit that i should be doing this or that instead and throw it right out the window,
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>Hitler's Socialism is based on race and respects private property
Pick one. If you steal shit from people because they're the wrong "race" then you don't actually respect property rights. What does your DNA test say by the way? Don't tell me you didn't even check...

>and industry,
Wrong. Do you not even know your own history? Hitler dissolved the stock market, made it illegal to operate a business under a certain size and forced all the bigger businesses to join a cartel run by the nazi party directly.

Hitler's socialism is the same as every other socialism: government eats industry then shocked pikachu face when everything turns to shit.
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Contributing to the other anon's argument over norse mythology.
>You fill your post with ad hominems... 
For mortal men Ergi was a grave insult and one that if you made the insult and didn't substantiate it you were cast as an outlaw allowing the one you insulted to kill you with impunity. 
Odin, being king of the gods was insulted as such but only for practicing Seidr, and he was condemned for that but he is the king of the gods and his domains greatly encompass those of knowledge and passion, seeking knowledge of something despite taboos against it is fully within his scope, and his duty, regardless these are stories created by men they carry the truth of concepts within them but they are far from historical in and of themselves, Second instruments and playing them have always been a strong part of Germanic culture Bragamen aka Bards are a long standing and very important component of said culture stemming right back to it's roots in the Pontic steppes and from there the arctic circle from which it originally spawned. 
>the act of seeing/shaping 
And? Odin desired that power so he used deception to learn it, he also hanged himself from the tree of life for 9 days in sacrifice to himself to obtain knowledge of 18 spells cast with the runes, he seeks knowledge at any cost and cares not what others think of him, admirable behaviors to be honest.
>I need not mention Loki and Sleipner. 
There's nothing to say that that  story wasn't made-up whole cloth by Snorri either, feel free to mention it, because even within the story, Loki is a Giant, not a Aesir and was the best friend of Odin, and who was allowed to stick around despite the shit he pulled because Odin, found him hilarious, There is scholarship that indicates that that was a forgery by Snorri, and, also some that indicates Loki was not the name by which the Nordic/Germanic trickster god went, that seems to have been lost to time thanks mostly to christian suppression of and subversion of every Germanic culture that anything has survived at all is either miraculous or extremely fortuitous for us. 
>Norse mythology has...
There is sexual degeneracy in all mythology and no, there doesn't exist plausibility for that, they bogged faggots and we know that for damn certain.
 Also, despite the dominant narrative of liberal scholarship trying to claim that there is mounting evidence that neither the Romans nor the Hellenes themselves viewed sex that way, we know homosexuality was banned in Sparta, and in Alexanders time, in Athens, punishable with death. The book Homosexuality in Ancient Greece The Myth Is Collpasing by one Adonis Ath. Georgiades is some good reading on the subject. https://letsupload.cc/m964H569ye/Faggotry_in_Ancient_Greece_-_The_Myth_is_Collapsing._pdf
>While Odin may not have drank jizz, please do not try to claim that Norse mythology is superior to others, when it can be just as degenerate and depraved as any other religion.
Who claimed anything about superiority in this specific matter, these stories, and they are just that stories, were created to teach lessons and to tell roaring good stories around the hearthfire, and again, we don't know how much of it was faithfully written down by Snorri.
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>Pick one. If you steal shit from people because they're the wrong "race" then you don't actually respect property rights. What does your DNA test say by the way? Don't tell me you didn't even check...
An enemy to my people has no rights but to attempt to defend themselves, they will either fail or succeed.
I tracked my genetic history through genealogical records, I do not, nor will I ever trust jewish companies with my DNA, I am an entirely Northwestern European man. 

>Wrong. Do you not even know your own history? Hitler dissolved the stock market, made it illegal to operate a business under a certain size and forced all the bigger businesses to join a cartel run by the nazi party directly.
Not wrong, those things were done to control industry so that it didn't fuck over the worker, and took Usury and entirely fake money right out of the equation the two things the stock market itself is was and always has been based on, the industries were allowed to continue existing in service to, and of, the German people, He also turned the currency in Germany from worthless paper into a unit based on one's own labor, which controlled prices effectively and gave the individual more purchasing power than at any other point in history.
Now, go read Gottfried Feder, and shut the fuck up.
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>>212
>As have you. The point is moot.
>No You
Point to where I have.

>Fallacious arguments can and should be spotted and identified
You shouldn't be talking about fallacious arguments when you're popping one out left and right. For example you're low-IQ respond to d2a723 and mine is nothing, but just that.

>There is no counter-argument here because that implies you had one to begin with. 
Then you would not respond back to argument, plus an argument is an argument. A ad-hominem is still an argument even if it is faulty. Learn more about logical fallacies. What is not an argument is where a person has no basis or strong point. Learn what arguments are before you try to educate someone on something you don't even understand.

>How? Queer still implies that there is masculine and feminine
Queer is the deconstruction of masculine and feminine. It is the reinforcement of gender and fludity and denotes the importance of sexuality between biological sexes. 

>Something can be defined as either masculine or feminine, it's just that the lines between them are blurred.
Are you a liberal? 

>The two are inseparably linked. Masculinity/femininty are 100% tied to sexuality. 
Anon, you were the one who linked the psuedo-intellectuals who made the claims and lies. If you believed that sexuality and masculinity/feminity are tied, then you would know and not be a dishonest retard and realized that you are sources are full of shit. You're just arguing against yourself here and I should telling you this actually.

>If it walks, talks, and acts like a homo, it is one
Here's the thing, stupid. If man kisses another man, then they fully reject the laws of nature. But if they have no intentions of being in a sexual relationship of someone of the same sex, but contain feminine trait, which is a thing that exists, then they're aegir, which is another way of saying they're astray. Your argument is dumb and you still refuse to acknowledge the word due to your weak pride and bad logic of context and meanings thanks to Christians mucking up every little meaning of the vocabulary. Plus, it's not even true, because a-lot of effeminate guys get confused as gay, despite only sexually interesed in women like that one Swedish actor who still got married and had a kid. This phenomenon is quite common. In Norse it is a separate definition, because it is used to describe the measurement of masculinity of a male. Concluding that everyone is homo, because of unmanlyness  fuels the LGBT-tards which Christians are indirectly they're biggest validators.

>Or will you just dismiss every translation except the single one out of a thousand that fits your idea of what it means? 
>unmanly, effeminate, cowardly
Again, you defeat your own argument. Note it says "unmanly" and "cowardly". That does not specify homo as a sexuality. Whether you want to argue that gays are cowardly is up to you, but this is separate from the word's meaning and context as homosexuality was not recognized as form of sex at all, but abomination. You can be cowardly and still be the most heterosexual man on the planet and the accusation of being aegir against you would still be valid. 

>Second source
Your other sources agrees with me. Several cases are here were Odin and Loki were called "fags" as we do in modern times to ridicule and discredit someone. Generally the word is used to describe unmanly attitudes amongst the spectrum.

>There is nothing to confuse it with anything. It is cut-and-dry. To be called ergi is to be called a fag, a coward, a cuck, etc.
Look above, you're an idiot. 

>Because you didn't.
I did in fact. As I explained your sources are vague, because they come from several "professionals" who are not fluent in Norse at all, and they've take many of words out of context. 

>See above
>Does it at the last second
>Sources doesn't prove any point you had, as if you had any
Lol

>What context, the one that fits it to something you don't like?
I already explained to you why the context is miskewd and you're just going all "durr what context durr". At this point you're really latching on queer lies as your argument and excuse to lie about our White ancestors. 

>Here are two translations of the Lokasenna
Didn't I already explained to you that Loki is not an aesir nor a god to be worshiped. You're not even making a point here, because he is the god of FOOLERY. Common Norsemen did not like Loki at all. By your logic, the bible NT mentioning Lucifer and how he's a degenerate means the bible is an endorsement of degeneracy. The story of Loki transforming into mare isn't even legitimate, because Gylfaginning was written by a Christian. 

>The entire poem is Loki being a dick to everyone, so obviously he would use insults that he knew could not be defended and would get a reaction.
So what was your point about Loki being degenerate? How does this make the Eddas or paganism bad for talking about degeneracy?

>Yes, because it was seen as a woman's role.
Loki is a god, no man would practice what he did. You're viewing the book in completely different lens and are trying to criticize it for not being as dumb as the bible. 

>You can connect the dots between seidr and ergi quite clearly. Loki called Odin a faggot
You still haven't connected the dots that sedir and ergi are two different words in two different contexts. Hell your own sources even state this lol.

>he fact that it mentions degeneracy at all in any sort of depth implies latent faggotry.
And it is put in a negative light. Look above on what I said about the bible.

>Why does it need to go into any sort of detail
Same reason why the bible talks about donkey balls man rape, and how if you're a child and talk bad about Yahweh, then you will be merciless slaughtered by a bear. You sound like a bitch complaining that the Eddas aren't wholesome chungs 100 and dare talk about topics that are a possibility. There are entirely different times, the common man was not a puritan when it came to any subject.

>Proofs
You can also look https://odysee.com/@NorseMagicAndBeliefs:6/the-poetic-edda-vs-prose-edda-norse:9
Snorri was heavily influenced by Christianity, which is why the Prose Eddas have so similarities with their creation myths. When he began planning to write about the Eddas, it is debatable whether he had hymns and poems of the Odin, Loki and Thor at all. His only motivation for writing the books were to ridicule his ancestors for believing in his interpretation of the stories and preserve what was left of the Old Norse language. Snorri either had malicious intentions or he simply refused to accurately translate the workings of our ancestors for his highers-up and faith.

>Again, proofs
>proof for something that is commonly known and acknowledged
>doesn't even know the subject that he is talking about
Look above and stop being retarded.

>And you are?
A critic who has researched to topic unlike someone who believes all information given to him, if it fits his narratives.

>What is your criteria for fluency?
Jag är en medelbegåvning i att tala norrländska. Plus you don't need to be a professional at a criteria to know when a jew is lying. Otherwise we can take what Greenberg said about Jesus as factual since you have no criteria in bible study and history.

>You're missing the point, some old viking wrote these stories and included numerous accounts of in-depth, highly-detailed degeneracy, then spins around and says "don't do this
No they don't. It's clear as day that a human cannot and should not do the things Loki has done. Again, you're speaking in your own interpretations of things, because you have not read what you criticize. 

>He wrote smut and then told others not to be gay
You are the only one who sees it as smut. Stop being gay and seeing disgusting actions as pornographic.

>Just because humans can't do seidr doesn't mean retards don't try it
You're a legit idiot. Have you not ever heard of the word "common sense". You're too worried about degeneracy seeping into the public and not realizing that people will find their ways to do abominable things no matter what. Your logic is equal to dog shot for you're more concerned about fear-mongering pozz rather than combating it. You act as if the entirety of humanity is retarded and must be kept away from sensitive topics. We all know how that failed for these past 1000 years, plus the Christians in the past weren't too puritan either. Learn to stop being a man and face reality and stop being a aegir.

>Ancient rome considered fucking their boy slaves as not gay
No they did not. Ancient Rome had laws on the extent of sex. This is pure fan fiction writing.

>but giving oral to a woman as turbogay
Again fan fiction.

>Sex was based on status
Status was not solely based on sex, moron. Your actions and reputation also affected your status. Which is why whenever the Romans had debates, they would accuse each other of being faggots or cowardly in battle just like the Norse had done.

>Random sources
>read a book
>Doesn't quote any of them
>Once again believes in the words anyone says
If I approach your perspective of things, then I can also say that 3rd and fourth image are factual, because they talk about the subject and are done by people with who supposedly have a degree in subject. The same can also be said for vaccine shills as well. Another case of Christian validating the LGBT. Your views on truth are reactionary.

>I am talking about the Roman concepts of masculine and feminine/dominane and submission and you're trying to argue property law.
You aren't talking of anything that Romans believed in, your repeating the things LGBT propagandist lie about and, then draw conclusions that favor your agenda. The Romans' laws reflects their views just like it does within every cultural who establishes a law. Roman law on woman exist due to their mythology and acknowledgement of nature. If they believed in a dominance/submission hierarchy, then the Pater Familias would some completely different. You still refuse to give me proof of any of said hierarchy. 

>I am arguing in terms of sexuality
You're arguing on terms of LGBTP+ activists and their (probably yours as well) perverted fantasies, not Roman sexuality. 

> Satyricon, the second book of Virgil's Eclogue and poems by Catallus, Tibullus, and Propertius
Proof?

>You are absolutely implying it by constantly calling me a Christcuck
You're a special kind of stupid. The funny kind for me lol.

>Loki called Odin a faggot for partaking in female magic rituals
Yeah, which my point here is that queers and Jesuits take that quite literally instead of realizing that it's just men calling each other slurs to discredit each other. Homos did the same in the 1980s to gaslight, project, and gate-keep the strong platonic relationship of men away from heterosexuals and it clearly worked, because the Protestants agreed with their terms. They do this to every man who was accused of being, despite being the opposite. 

>Paganism attracts nonwhites from across the globe 
Pfft HA. Excuse my cuckchan lingo, but nice cope there. Paganism attracts no one, but retarded Wiccans who have no understanding of paganism, via cringe pagans, and a small number of traditionalists who were either always pagan or stirred away from Yahweh validating Nietzsche's point about God. The highest number of converts are amongst African negroids, and gays have increasingly becoming Christian due to the pozzery of church, although it is possible that they were always Christian, but just simply disagreed with the traditional views. There are far more brown Christians, while Brown pagans mostly practice their own native faith.
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>those things were done to control industry so that it didn't fuck over the worker, and took Usury and entirely fake money right out of the equation the two things the stock market itself is was and always has been based on, the industries were allowed to continue existing in service to, and of, the German people, He also turned the currency in Germany from worthless paper into a unit based on one's own labor
👏sweetie👏that👏is👏communism👏

>Now, go read Gottfried Feder, and shut the fuck up.
How about you read some economics you leftist cuck.

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>No, it isn't, you are quite literally pulling pilpul even right here, I have addressed your every argument, I have not denied a response to even a single of your points, your accusation of me being a hypocrite is not only inaccurate it out right false and born out of you trying and failing to twist my words in ways it is beyond obvious that they are not intended to go, I praise Natural Law as it is an objective thing upon which to base morality, and doing so is an originally Aryan and thus European Idea, the Aryans of India were invaders of what is now known as the Indian subcontinent on two separate occasions thousands of years apart and even modern scholarship admits that the original Aryan inhabitants as well as the second wave of Aryan invaders came from the north, and the Vedas itself paints a picture of a home in the Arctic, and that is covered by Artic Home in the Vedas.
Hard to twist your words when they're already so contorted and deformed by your own hand. Natural law is not objective since you claim it to be based on the ideas of man, who claim that Natural law is objective, ad inifnitum. You're arguing on the same plane of existence without any regards to a higher power. Natural law is not a higher power, law is created by man. It is not ethereal or a spirit, angel, demon, divine, etc., it is law made by man and "validated" by scientific theories of man. It has no grounding in anything that can EVER be called objective. In the words of Robert Anton Wilson, it is processed through our emic reality, how we perceive things the way we want to perceive them. Your emic reality states that "whites are the master race". The negro emic reality says "fuck whitey". You have no middleman to give a non-biased view of what is really natural law.
So India was invaded by arctic aryan european superhumans 10,000 years ago, on two occasions, and there is a secret lost white kingdom buried somwhere under the ice. I think it is fair that a source (read: several sources) will be needed.
>My reasons for advocating complete genocide of all off or racial enemies do not need to be, nor is it required anywhere that they be, better than their reasons, nor do I claim that they are.
So despite all your strong europe posturing you admit your ideology is no better than theirs. Hypocrite.
>Once again your assertion that I am not doing anything is a dishonest assertion as is your further false assumption that I will continue to do nothing or that my goal is to get people to bomb anything, it is not and your continued pushing of that narrative is actually quite telling as to what you are and what your goal here is.
You've had time to make a multi-post argument against me instead of focusing on what you most hold dear: saving the white race. Sitting in front of a screen for hours a day plotting to btfo anon's argument hardly seems like a good way to spend time. And I can say that about you and not me because you've made your intentions clear on what you want. I really don't give a fuck about how I spend my days. I can list a dozen ways you could be furthering the white cause than spending hours each day replying to my "nonsensical" and "hypocritical" arguments. Yet you're still here.
My end goal is that you will realize your way of thinking is retarded and will change it according to what is actually happening around you. If my "goal" was merely to stir shit up as you are implying, I'd be making one-liner threads encouraging you to blow up a federal building. But I am here making arguments with you in a much longer and more detailed series of posts.
>There have been newfaggots who have come in and learned from us and joined our cause, not just here but many of the other places I have frequented as well, some stay, some go.
Conjecture. For all you can verify the only ones that have "learned" from your cause are the ones in jail right now. It is inherently more likely that people visit this board, are shocked that it exists, and never come back. The ones that do stay here are already indoctrinated and want a place to circlejerk memes and post board mascot porn with their fellow whites.
>It just so happens that I have free time this weekend, and consented to engage in an argument with you, despite your poor showing and laughable lack of knowledge in anything in relation to; the history of the Aryan Race, National Socialism, Fascism, or even this board, or the topics that have been discussed here over the last 5 years.
You have claimed India was the site of a nuclear superwar thousands of years ago, Genghis Khan was white, blue-eyed, and red-haired, that I am free to distort the truth and lie to my own people, including falsifying my own history and records if need be, and then use those "true" records to bolster my non-arguments and make pseudoscientific claims that I am the most powerful race on Earth and everyone else can die in a pit. Forgive me if I have issues doubting your legitimacy.
>Your last insult is merely further confirmation that you are in fact a Jew, and also probably a fed, making up medical disorders that I must have because I disagree with you and wish to defend my race to the point of doing unto them as they would do unto me and mine, a little rule posited by Aryans long before Christians ever got their hands on it.
As I said earlier, if I were a bad actor I would merely make one-liner posts nonstop to fuck with you. Find me a single jew/fed that would effortpost this hard to bring you down when other D&C methods have proven to be much cheaper, quicker, and effective. You don't like my arguments so you try to paint me as "outgroup I don't like" so you can belittle me. Very petty for a BO.
>Nope, you see all of them do want our destruction, and everything around us proves that. 
Everything around your reality that you see through your lens proves that. You have a victim complex going here. When you walk outside and pass a nonwhite, do you see murder in their eyes? Do you think if you turn your back on them for even a second they'll shank you? No, because most of them have bigger issues to worry about right now and they don't give a fuck about what whitey does at his super sekrit Aryan Nation clubs. They are trying to make a living in this batshit world just like you.
>The niggers of Africa do not stop their brethren from fleeing there and heading to Europe. 
While I would say that most of them don't want to murder us, their culture and way of thinking dictates otherwise. So this is a fair point.
>The same with India and pretty much every European nation in the world, ditto for china, and so on and so on.
Poos and bugmen are not migrating to Europe to kill them all. They come primarily for education and gibs. They are more sane than nogs, able to think ahead and see that killing whitey is not in their interests. At most, they want economic superiority. You seem to equate this with genocide. Why do you think that anyone trying to get any kind of upper hand is genocide?
>Finding one nigger/spic/kike who claims "no we don't want that", whatever the truth of that individuals claim does not invalidate my point or my claims.
Yes it does. It proves that you are generalizing a massive group of people even when you have definitive proof that it isn't true.
>We have numerous examples that belay that lie, right here in the USA, the most recent is Mayra Flores a so called "conservative" non-white invader who came in, campaigned against Amnesty and then turned around and voted for it when it came up, in flagrant violation of her own campaign promises. 
Again, you are generalizing and saying that everyone is lying. A politician voted against what they campaigned on and deceived their voters? Color me surprised. Surely only a nonwhite would ever do such a thing.
>This is extremely common for every racial enemy group, no matter what country they're in, to agree with what the ostensibly White side wants and promise what it wants so that they can achieve power, and then vote against the interests of that White side, while continuing to talk like they want to aid that side.
...to agree with what the ostensibly nonwhite side wnats and promise what it wants so that they can achieve power, and then vote against the interests of that nonwhite side. while continuing to talk like they want to aid that side. See: Jews in the Third Reich, Africans in Rhodesia and South Africa, Natives in America, etc. You've proven numerous times that your arguments are hypocritical, and the only excuse you have given for why it is ok is because we're white and they're not. You have provided no legitimate reason why whites are superior to nonwhites, either through our rule of law, civilization, technology, scientific discoveries, advancement of mankind, etc., only that your perception of natural law says so.
>This happens in every White Nation on the planet from fucking Scotland to New Zealand, It's basic deception and you completely ignore it. 
I don't ignore it, I know damn well that it's happening. I am smart enough to understand that one man can't change things on a global scale. You're not. Why do you give a fuck about what's happening in Scotland or NZ? You don't live there, their laws don't apply to you, and they're literally half a world away. If nonwhites are as primitive and subversive as you say, then they're not a threat at all. They are parasites that feed off the white man's achivements. If Africa is such a threat, why are their standing armies/navies/air forces a joke? All whites have to do is stop giving them money/aid. Watch how quickly they die off after that. You want to fight back? Kill the traitors in power in your country first.
>Your entire assertion assumes that because an invader would ever deign to claim that they do not want us all to die that, that one individuals existence means I should treat them all like friends, and be helpful and waste resources better served used on my people to get them home
I am telling you to use your brain and distinguish between friend and foe.
>All because they said pretty, nice, words and claimed they wanted to help me while being in my nation and taking resources from me, lowering my wages, and in far too many cases leeching off of what was once my government?
You allowed all this to happen by letting them get a foodhold on all those places, and you will continue to allow it through your complacency and inaction until a TBD date in the future when every white will wake up, see the light, and make Rwanda look like a daycare. Inaction is an action, and you're trying to make yourself seem holier-than-thou because of it.
>You want me to send this deceiver home, so that he can warn his people that we are purging our lands of their kind, whether peacefully or not?
Armies leave one alive after a massacre to spread the word. Psychological warfare.
>No, better to kill them and make better use of those resources that would have been wasted by removing the problem entirely and then taking their land and resources for the use of my own people.
You have still failed to give a reason why.
<because natural law says so
<because natural law is the one and only truth
<because the one and only truth is revealed to us through natural law
>I do not live in fear, nor do I spend every waking moment that way, it is a fact that our race is disappearing, we are less than 8% of the Global population and even in 2000 something David Lane posited that and that less than a quarter of that is of child-bearing age, our situation is dire and getting more dire by the day.
You post anonymously on an imageboard that few people know about. That implies fear of something, be it getting doxxed by leftists or v& by feds. A man that has no fear is one that goes to rallies in person where they know their lives are on the line, that their chances of remaining employed will be destroyed just by showing up, that their personal lives will be put in jeopardy, and that everything they ever did online will be made public for all to see. As it was in Charlottesville, as it was at the Capitol, people that may or may not have been doing something for the right reasons, actually did something. No, you do live in fear. You still have too much of your personal life that you hold dear and are unwilling to give up. You have not come close to reaching the point where you are willing to die for your race, and from your constant bickering with me, you never will. Eat shit.
Whites were always a minority, compared to the vast expanses of Africa, Asia, the Americas, etc., they were never the majority of the world's population. And guess what retard, it's not just white birthrates that are dropping, it's all of them, Africa being the exception because we allow it with our endless gibs. Again, you identify the problem, but you are not proposing or enacting any viable, tangible, long-term solution.
>Europe is a place, a physical place and again yet more pilpul.
Then why do you say that "a place for every race" means no place for whitey? What are you trying to say?
>What I am saying is that your rhetoric and the methods you wish to use will lead to our extinction as surely as can be.
Ask yourself objectively: what is the biggest problem facing the white race right now? Not "a multitude of factors", what is the single biggest problem, right now, that removing would put whites in a markedly better position on the world stage? Simple: corrupt, arrogant leaders that don't have their people's best interest in mind, only that of bureaucrats, CEOs, and their backers. They are the ones controlling the decisions being made and making global policies that we have no say in (Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Relations, Bilderburg, etc.). Considering that the majority of these fuckers are well into their senile years by now, killing them would be a waste of time since they will start dropping like flies soon, unless the satanic-ritual-baby-blood-Q-wigawiga cabal actually has discovered eternal life. And even then, they are too far dispersed, too decentralized that getting rid of one would have any effect on anything. So at that point, you have to think smaller: focus on what you know you can change and will have an effect on living your life.

And you know what, reading that last line over, I'm done. It is obvious that you have no grasp on tangible reality or making meaningful change. I can list off a dozen more productive things I could be doing for both my personal gain and improving my position in life than arguing with a stick-in-the-mud fascist LARPagan that will never do anything. So I just realized I don't care. Enjoy your board and your circlejerk. You can say you won the argument, congratulations, but ask yourself what you really won in the end.
Not coming back to this thread or this board. Just don't get zzz v& like every other stormfag board has.
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220c97 is a shitskin (or a snake-oil salesman) who wants to persuade White men from realizing what needs to be ultimately done.

To any daring non-Whites who saw /fascist/ and are coming from the other boards:
FUCK OFF, WE'RE NOT CIVIC NATIONALISTS. WE DESPISE YOU AND WANT YOU ALL DECIMATED.
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>>231
>Hard to twist your words when they're already so contorted and deformed by your own hand. Natural law is not objective since you claim it to be based on the ideas of man
At this point you should just admit you're just here to be a faggot, because the laws of nature are upmost objective. If you cannot follow this simple fact, then you should stick and stay being a Christoid who hopean his dead corpse will come back and save him from a conflict that you religion is responsible for. Natural law is absolute and above all religions who also echoes it's truth, even yours. It is both scientific and esoteric. While, Christianity is nothing more, but self-hating cuckoldry in hopes to become higher by going to an after-life that has no logical basis nor truth to it, especially for a God who detests you. If you cannot accept natural law, then you aren't a fascist nor NS, but a faggot trying to co-opt another ideology, because your religion failed and cannot appeal to the masses due to your clergy, priest, and highest spiritual authority all acting like dumbasses. 

>Your emic reality states that "whites are the master race"
We are the closet to achieving mastery, have and will. 

>The negro emic reality says "fuck whitey"
Which is why we must cull them and put them under the control of the Whitey like we did in the past. The negro is ignorant and naturally a slave, which is why are capitalism's best and largest consumers.  I can agree that they are best without technological, but they are also best under the control of the White man as well. 

>You have no middleman to give a non-biased view of what is really natural law.
Said by the Christian who knows nothing of cosmic/universal truth other than "YAHWEH AND YESHUA SAVES!11". This should be stated by someone who knows law and nature, not some idiot shilling globalism and thinking we won't be fooled in not knowing you're some dumb shit-skin or Zionist. Hitler knew natural law like no other modern man or priesthood, so he and those like him most certainly can preach that must be exterminated. Hitler warned the nigger about the jews and they refused to listen, so struggle begins and might is right. Trying to change their minds is no different than beating a dead corpse, because all tribes will always prefer their own and you're demanding us to be cucked and cannot source any info about how Hitler was ashkually a ethno-pluralist without making stuff up. Prove Hitler would of been a globalist or shut the fuck up and seethe about us on reddit with the others faggots.
>>231
>Hard to twist your words
No you are twisting my words, and misinterpreting them purposely, I never claimed that Natural Law itself was created by man, it is not it simply is. the idea to follow it and make it the basis of one's morality is an Aryan idea, and No it is objective the rules can be easily gleaned by each man for themselves.
Also 
>Discordianism
nah, you're retarded.
>ARYANS OF INDIA WERE WHITE PEOPLE
Not only is this flat-out admitted by Indians of today but search the archives of the board across it's last few iterations it has been covered many a time.
>So despite all your strong europe posturing you admit your ideology is no better than theirs. Hypocrite.
Once again baseless claims, I only made claims as to whether my reasons for advocating their genocide were better or not that has nothing to do with my ideology, religion or worldview. your obsession with being "better" as if better itself as a word or concept has any value, is exactly why you are weak.
>You've had time to make a multi-post argument against me instead of focusing on what you most hold dear: saving the white race. 
Again you presume things that you have no evidence for, my mere presence on a weekend that I have free, is no indication of anything. There is no way to constantly be doing something to save the White race, for one I need sleep to function, two I need activities which destress me and I find this is one such activity, it also helps me to expand my own view. I cannot, for my own sanity,  health or wellbeing, go and "DO something" every day of the week.
>My end goal is that you will realize your way of thinking is retarded and will change it according to what is actually happening around you.
Your end goal is deradicalization, which is perfectly normal as you are a jew, thank you for pointing it out for us all.
>For all you can verify the only ones that have "learned" from your cause are the ones in jail right now.
The ones in jail may or may not have learned here, I do not know nor do I care they are incarcerated and off the game board, for now.
And no we get all sorts here, you speak again out of sheer ignorance, just making more shit up again and again.
>You have claimed India was the site of a nuclear superwar thousands of years ago, 
I claimed that it was evidence that one may have occurred in the distant past, I made no concrete claims of any sort on that, so please continue being a retard it's funny.
>Geghios Khan was a redhead and had blue eyes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies
The only description we have that is considered accurate is from Persian historian Rashid al-Din who was given the description by khan's children and grandchildren who actually shared his wait for it... Red Hair and Green Eyes, this is not terribly uncommon among todays mongolian peoples either, there are some among them who look downright European, probably due to that being the Scythians home land which has significant overlap with the Yamnaya, the progenitors of the Indo-european peoples, both of whom who had blonde and red hair, fair skin and light eyes but keep being a faggot.
>that I am free to distort the truth and lie to my own people, including falsifying my own history and records if need be,
Yes, you are, and you have yet to provide any reason that is wrong beside some vague call to Christnigger morality, under which deception is downright encouraged there's even an entire tract on it by a Catholic priest from, I think, the 5th century.
>and then use those "true"
The victor writes the history books, this has never not been true and never not been done.
>Forgive me
Everything I said is quite easily verifiable. not only by looking through the archives of the board but by learning how to do research and determine truth from lies, a skill no christnigger ever learns.
>You don't like my arguments so you try to paint me as "outgroup I don't like" so you can belittle me. Very petty for a BO.
No, you have made it abundantly clear that you are a bad actor, we have always shown ourselves immune to the type of low quality bait you describe, so those like you changed their tack and tried to waste time and effort by trying to sound intellectual and twist claims against themselves numerous times, each time it is our tradition to fully blow you the fuck out because none of you ever actually make arguments worthwhile just more shit stirring, but with more words and the odd concept it takes time to debunk thrown in a pseudointellectual fashion. 
Most of your arguments are ignorant, stupid and frankly insulting,  Insulting because most of the time you're not making any argument, you're just trying and failing to twist my claims in such a way as to make them ridiculous, and utterly failing to attack any of the underlying reasoning.
>Everything around your reality that you see through your lens proves that. 
Nope objectively that is what is occurring, the jews and their Christnigger slaves have even been so brash, as to outright admit it in recent years, and the very fact that any negro exists on my land is proof of the jews malice(they were most of the slave owners and slave traders) and their own malice is proven against us by the more recent african "refugee" transplants.
>So this is a fair point.
Its a point that you have failed to address nine fucking times now, showing you are incapable of doing so or even understanding the point at all.
>Poos and bugmen are not migrating to Europe to kill them all. They come primarily for education and gibs. They are more sane than nogs, able to think ahead and see that killing whitey is not in their interests. At most, they want economic superiority. You seem to equate this with genocide
If you worship your enemy, you are defeated. If you adopt your enemy’s religion, you are enslaved. If you breed with your enemy, you are destroyed.” - King Polydoros of Sparta 
Them living in our lands mixing with our women is GENOCIDE, no matter what way you wish to spin it, or how you try to dress it up, we either kill them all or they WILL try again and again. I want a white world so that when I go to war I know my enemy is my racial brother and will fight by the same rules I do, and so that my race will never be extinguished by any hand but that of the cosmos itself when our sun Sol expands and kills all life on the planet. I want a White world so that maybe we have a chance to escape that fate and live on another planet or hundreds. These things, these possibilities are only possible if WE, and WE alone, have the earth to ourselves so that we may repair her, from the damage our own mistake in allowing the lesser races to have access to our technology, our thoughts has caused, and to end their destruction of and harm to all lesser life than them on this planet forever.
>Yes it does.
No, it does not, not only is it easy to find the research that proves that no matter what they claim they all act and if given it vote against our interests once within our borders and this remains true across the board no race is different in this way from the jew to the lowly nigger.
>Color me surprised.
the point is faggot, is that is but one of MANY proofs of such, that our own so-called politicians lie as well, does not invalidate that someone who comes out and claims to work for your interests to get your vote and then does not out of obvious racial loyalty to her own people, israeli slave that she is, and she does so do the regular mexicans doing day labor at lowes.
>only that your perception of natural law says so.
This civilization, bastardized as it is by christniggers, was based upon the work of Aryan men, the thoughts of Aryan men, the technology created by Aryan Men, stemming back to Rome and Hellas, if not further that alone proves our superiority, you probably put it down to christianity, but if it hadn't been us, it wouldn't have happened at all.
>You want to fight back? Kill the traitors in power in your country first.
I care about NZ and AUS because they are my racial brethren those examples, were only brought up as further examples showing they do the same shit everywhere outside of their own lands. and yeah the aid ends when this civilization collapses, doing a lot of work for us, but they know now where we are, they will not stop coming hell they're heading for Europe every day still. and Where have I used the word primitive?
Also I and many on this board repeatedly say traitors first or why else would we target and despise christniggers so much?
they have been the enemy within for 1400 years or more, time to do away with them.
>I am telling you to use your brain and distinguish between friend and foe.
There is no racial enemy who is a friend of mine, at best I would use them against another group they will get no more consideration than that and I would kill them at the moment they lose usefulness.
>You allowed all this to happen by letting them get a foodhold on all those places
They had a foothold already the the day I was born, and for at least 20 years I was growing up learning trying to see the truth in the world, I had no hand in this becoming what it is. I choose to have a hand in undoing this state of affairs and ripping the very roots of this civilization out and then setting it on fire so that new life may rise from the ashes.
>Armies leave one alive after a massacre to spread the word. >Psychological warfare.
Why give your enemy a warning, as to what is coming, I have set out to kill all of them from the zygote in the belly of some nigger whore to the most disgusting jew sitting atop his ivory tower.
>You have still failed to give a reason why.
I just gave a very good and very simple reason right there, killing them saves me the cost in resources of taking them home, so that those resources may be used more constructively on my own people, I need nothing more noble or complex than that.
>You post anonymously on an imageboard that few people know about. 
I post here, because I find it enjoyable, if that ever ceases to be the case, I will leave it another's hands or burn it entirely. Which I do depends entirely on external circumstance. No, those idiots who go to rallies, do nothing and accomplish nothing, they lose by going, if they're stupid enough to get doxed as a result, their ability to act without support, there is no "organization" of any sort in this country that has even planned for the eventuality of being a small army in war, I can be a one man army, strike whenever and where-ever I please, disappear, and strike somewhere else, they forfeit that by putting themselves in the light of our enemies cameras, they ensure that they, and their families, will be the first victims when zog does go open season, My personal goal right now is ensuring that I am fit and strong and can act, usefully, when the opportunity presents itself, and that I remain free and able to act in the interests of the cause, joining PF does not accomplish that, and with their big doxing recently and the leak of their chats they're right in line for fed infiltration or control, and that only if they weren't already under ZOG's thumb.
I risk my life on an, at least, weekly basis, doing shit that would make any of your PF niggers shit their pants and run in fear, because they do not have the will to act in opposition to the system, they barely have the will to stand and let niggers beat on them as they walk through the street. 
>Whites were always a minority, compared to the vast expanses of Africa, Asia, the Americas, etc., 
>they were never the majority of the world's population. And guess what retard, it's not just white birthrates that are dropping,
This has no point whatsoever to even be mentioned, so what? And no at several points in history we outnumbered any other individual population on earth and this was true not 100 years ago,
>Wah Wah Wah Just don't get zzz v& like every other stormfag board has.
/fascist/ hasn't gotten anybody vanned, retard.
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>>233
Fuck off with this ethnoglobe bullshit. Synarchist-anon was a far better fascist than half of you /pol/tier retards and I would rather have him than any of you. You're subhumans compared to him, Mexican spic he may be. 
Strategically, the idea of extermination is fucking stupid when we're fighting an uphill battle. Our goal should be survival first and foremost. Once we get into a position of power, we've got breathing room, and we've removed the Jews, then maybe you can put that question up for debate, but for now the concern should be survival, survival, survival.
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>>242
Shut up about your lost little mexican fuckbuddy, nobody knows why he disappeared, he last posted on anon.cafe, and nobody is stopping him now. If ethnoglobe discussion had anything to do with his disappearance whatsoever he isn't worth the air he breathes.
Strategically, the idea of extermination starts right from the moment open conflict starts If you take it off the table until some nebulous point of power you will fail to ever take it up.
The goal of ethnoglobe is survival and ensuring the fulfillment of the 14 words, and it isn't possible with christcucks either the concern of ethnoglobe is and always has been survival.
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>>243
<nobody is stopping him now
>implying that anyone wants a shitskin to come to the White man's space to talk
>>243
And this attitude is why /fascist/ is fucking dead and full of /pol/ subhumans like you. I remember when we could have comfy, redpilled discussion on architecture, technology, media, and ACTUAL FASCIST THEORY instead of constant spergouts about muh pagans, muh christkikes and muh ethnoglobe. Have any of you ever read any actual fascist literature, and not just Mein Kampf, either? Have any of you ever taken an interest in things outside of having useless and gay arguments on the Internet? For example, I like gardening and would love to own my own farm one day, I like history, I like reading and writing, I like learning about the mythology and religions of our people, I like architecture, I like space colonization, so on. But how many of you can say similar things? You're NPCs of the "correct" opinion, absolute fucking hylics programmed with no free will nor souls.
>>252
You can still have those discussions in their proper threads if they aren't here, make them.FYI, faggot, those discussions were still going on, on 16chan, Julay and Anon.cafe, I was part of more than half of them in addition to the Christkike/Native European religionists and ethnoglobe discussions, they never fucking stopped, so your spergery about ethnoglobe is based on a false fucking assertion from the word go. Take your complaints to the meta thread, or better yet fucking have the discussion YOU want to have or of you're too fucking autistic to do that, just shut the fuck up, your goddamn choice.
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>>252
>And this attitude is why /fascist/ is fucking dead 
/fascist/ was always dead. There were always a couple anons posting on it since 8chan. And there were always morons like you shilling retarded ideas that weren't fascist in thought at all. For example, I've seen faggots try to trick us into thinking the DDR were based because they had NatSoc aesthetic, even though they've renounced Hitler and everything the NSDAP had built and rebuilt within Germany. All you're doing here is bitching and crying about how we won't follow your obviously wrong interpretation and definition of fascism. Boo-hoo cry more you psuedo-intellectual effeminate faggot.
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>>253
Thanks for outing yourself as a newfag hanger-on, this shit wasn't happening in 8/fascist/. The ethnoglobe garbage came around during anon.cafe and 16chan, if my memory serves me right, almost as the glowniggers overseeing those two boards started it to discredit genuine fascist movements by making them look fucking retarded with the likes of you? 
But I will agree to discuss topics I like in their appropriate threads. That's fair enough.
>>254
>And there were always morons like you shilling retarded ideas that weren't fascist in thought at all.
What ideas am I shilling that aren't fascist at all?
>All you're doing here is bitching and crying about how we won't follow your obviously wrong interpretation and definition of fascism
And what exactly is the "obviously wrong" interpretations and definitions that I'm following? That I don't jerk off to an imaginary all-white world and focus first and foremost on just preventing the death of the white race? 
>psuedo-intellectual effeminate faggot
No argument, and probably projection, too.
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>>257
There was an Ethnoglobe thread on Julay, fashBO had created one, and I discussed with him there, as well as on anon.cafe, it doesn't matter if you don't remember it, you're an autist who has whined about this for months on 16 and started on anon cafe as soon as shitstirrers suceeded in getting us kicked off the site. You can whine all you like about it, in the Meta thread, if you absolutely must, but it is a position the former owner of this board also holds, and was discussed on the board while under his ownership I also believe it to be the correct path and even if i didn't, I wouldn't censor discussion of it, just to fit your desires.
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>USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST (won the argument)
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>>310
im pretty sure communism doesn't promote traditionalism gun ownership and private property imao
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>>310
>I was banned for being retarded, so therefore I won the argument
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Shall I ban you again?!, because all you have done is stir shit, and here you are trying again.
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this board in a nutshell

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST Low quality shitstirrer returns

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i believe if not fascism, going back to the days of federalists vs. antifederalists (in terms of burger politicis) would also be a beneficial route. basically whatever the founding fathers actually intended
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>He also turned the currency in Germany from worthless paper into a unit based on one's own labor, 
This is literally Marx's labor theory of value.

>took Usury and entirely fake money right out of the equation the two things the stock market itself is was and always has been based on
The stock market predates fiat money. There is nothing wrong with usury you just don't understand time preference.

>those things were done to control industry so that it didn't fuck over the worker
Right Wing
<work harder
<educate yourself
<improve your skills
<command a higher return from the market

Left Wing
<muh poor workers
<muh oppression
<give free stuff
<its not fair

You are leftists in denial. Deal with it.
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i dont know what you faggots are arguing but
>l-low quality shirtstirer
it appears mods have the same form of reasoning as trannies, no matter where i am and in what point in time
why are straight white men underrepresented in the field of moderation?
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>>319
>it appears mods have the same form of reasoning as trannies
Because socialists are as removed from reality at trannies are.
Banning everyone who destroys your delusions with facts and logic is the only option.
They fucked up by choosing this place to leech hosting from though because they can't ban all the Tor posters
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>This is literally Marx's labor theory of value.
No it isn't. This has been the basis of old socialism and generally speaking it is natural for a state to base the worth of it's citizen by giving them more control and reward for their hard-work, faggot. To declare it is leftist is a self-own and means you want a stratified society where the state owns all means or some corpo to fuck you over, which is Jude as hell.

>The stock market predates fiat money
The stock market is still shit and one of the primary reasons why jews control our economies. If the market doesn't benefit the folk, but the merchant and oligarchs exclusively, then it is useless and it always slopes doing just that.

>There is nothing wrong with usury
The entire history of usury is explotation. Even mudslimes and christcucks didn't like it. There is no reason nor justification for usury to exist, and furthermore it encourages slavery amongst one's own kin. You are a ((( lolberg ))).

>Right wing, left wing
Good thing we aren't right or left wing. Just for you to know, right-wingers have always been large critics of usury just as much as leftoids. Any right-winger who is for usury is either a ancapfag or a neo-con/lib. Nothing you've said about right-wing values goes against what we believe. 

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>Because socialists are as removed from reality at trannies are.
Said person who thinks there's nothing wrong with a West-Asian invention with the intention of recycling and profiting slave economies. Many trannies also take up with libertarian stances, so you have no say on who and what's out of reality.
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you speak and speak without even reading what fascism is nor do you try to learn instead you pull shit out of your ass and say its communism because we promote the worker because we care for our people and dont want them poor in the dirt how about read a book and stfu
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Germany should've allied with USSR during ww2
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It did, and as it turns out Stalin was like the kike puppet he was, after they divested poland, planning to launch a surprise strike on Germany, Hitler found this out and already being ready for war launched his attack on Stalin,  prempting the coming betrayal, there was no ground nor basis for any deeper alliances, one was based entirely on Abrahamic thought and the other on Germanic thought, two completely opposed thought systems and worldviews.
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I can ban all the Torposters, all I have to do is ban one of you amd everyone else on Tor can't post on this board, many of our regulars use Tor so until sturgeon fixes it where you and only you get banned when I ban somebody from Tor, I can't remove the annoyance of illiterates like you.
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Damn.
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>until sturgeon fixes it
No one can. Tor provides anonymity for both end of the connection. zzz cannot distinguish between Tor clients.
t. >>>/tech/
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>>333
Thats not true, you can distinguish between individual browsers through Tor, you can identify them personally and the methods to do are well known, they're just well outside the experience of me and most people but well within the US Governments capabilities and the ability to ban individuals through Tor is useful but with the Tor Browser, at least, they can change their identity at will and thus evade bans. I only know it's possible to do because when I was moderating on 16chan I was able to ban disruptive Torniggers and other Tor posters were still able to post as usual, The problem according to Sturgeon is something in his nginx configuration, that doesn't allow differentiation on the site side between the individuals accessing the site through tor, but it is possible.
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Civic nationalist cuck.
>>332
what mod is this?
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thousand week reich?
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You are right. The site cannot distinguish between users, unless the Tor server disclose the circuit id to the application in haproxy protocol. Without the setting, all connections looks like it's from 127.0.0.1. But this is only applicable for onion v3 sites. If 16chan had a v2 site, they must be using other identifiers such as cookies.
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 16chan had a v3 onion address.
Call it fringe if you want, but the Roman Empire and Ancient Greece are fake and gay. Video related explains what I'm talking about. I honestly believe the stories such as Troy are actually referencing the vikings. This whole "it was all the gayreeks" is inconsistent especially at how it is used as a weapon to denote European culture that aren't Mediterranean as inferior or backwards. After-all, the Greeks and Italians are exactly the type of people to lie for money and politics.

Re-post, my video wouldn't upload due to it being too large, so I have to use Bitchute instead.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Qb4Z5y0iB1i2/
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Firstly, fuck you and your Qtard video, motherfucker even sounds like a jew.
Second, "history" seems wrong to you, because it is wrong, we have a concerted effort to hide the truth about many things in history and not the least is that human history and the history of Agriculture, etc. is much older than they want us to think, and because history as they teach, and taught, us is not based on, viewed through the lens of, or focused on, what history truly is, which is the story of racial conflict through the ages, it sanitizes history to bare events, and includes outright falsehoods just for to subvert those reading it. 
Third, the Greeks and Romans both were of Nordic/Germanic Phenotype and so long as they kept their blood pure they soared to the heights of civilization, but they both sullied their blood and fell, they were quite real, the story of the conflict between Troy and the Hellenes was referencing a conflict between two Germanic people groups that happened in the Mediterranean, and Homosexuality was as reviled among the Hellenes and Romans as it was amongst the Germanics, Most places punished it with death there is a post in this very thread dealing with that and it provides a book that covers the subject for the Hellenes at least.
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>>354
>Firstly, fuck you and your Qtard video
This wasn't made by a qtard. Nor would qtards imply that Jesus was also a much more recent construct. You're sperging out at me for no reason.

>motherfucker even sounds like a jew
>Everything that disagrees with me is jewish
What does a Jew gain from claiming that our history that blinds us is in actuality much more recent?

>Second, "history" seems wrong to you, because it is wrong, we have a concerted effort to hide the truth about many things in history and not the least is that human history and the history of Agriculture, etc. is much older than they want us to think
Okay, but is exactly what the video does, nigger. The guy deconstructs the mainstream timeline of human history as something inconsistent and too similar to more recent events to be considered actual history. Your comment crying about his voice implies that you've watched a portion of the video and yet you still conclude that he's a qkike. At-least watch the whole thing.

>Third, the Greeks and Romans both were of Nordic/Germanic Phenotype
This is what you want to believe. Sure it is possible that aristocrats were Nordic, but to say all of Rome and Greece was Germanic is far-fetch. 

>they kept their blood pure they soared to the heights of civilization
They are center of perverts and liars who use them to fabricate claims as a way to lie about how they are rightful rulers of land they've wanted to conquer. We don't need Greeks and the Romans to prove ourselves worthy or of a great people, especially in a way that lead to the Aryan's own destruction. I can believe India was Aryan, but it's bullshit that Whites needed muh Rome in order to establish a high culture. Plus, it is skeptical if the Romans truly kept themselves pure, because they were said to have mixed with their own slaves and the miscegenation is probably what lead to the civil wars in the first place.

>between Troy and the Hellenes was referencing a conflict between two Germanic people groups that happened in the Mediterranean
Homer's Troy and Illad does not correspond with the geography with Greece at all, but his description of what is supposed to be Greece. If anything I'm more inclined to believe the story actually takes place between England or Denmark and not of Greeks. Why do you refuse to acknowledge that this story occurred and was fully written by us Germanics in our own homeland. Claiming that the Greeks were Germanic is no different than Albanians claiming that Alexander The Great was an Albanian.
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I concluded he was a Q-kike from his channel avatar, and half the content of his fucking channel, and I watched enough to know what the basis of his claims is, "History repeats too often so it must be more recently constructed, the inconsistencies cannot be explained any other way" which is bullshit, we know hige swaths of History that was in Roman hands was destroyed both intentionally and out of neglect by Christians, and that just one thing half of what we know of Ancient History is from recopys of recopys, but we have enough to know that Rome and Greece did happen more than 200 years ago aside from the scientific evidence of the age of many monuments left.
>At-least watch the whole thing
I'm not watching a Q-kike talk about anything, I shouldn't even have listened to what I did, it's nothing but a waste of time and so are you, patterns repeat, it's part of the nature of the universe, part of Natural Law, humans being a part of nature tend to repeat patterns.
>This is what you want to believe. Sure it is possible that aristocrats were Nordic, but to say all of Rome and Greece was Germanic is far-fetch. 
It's not just what I believe, it's the truth all of Greece at one point was. the purest of them, for the longest were the Spartans. Rome is a bit murkier but they were almost entirely of one tribe who had exterminated all others who might have been able to call themselves Roman. They remained pure in aristocracy and all other matters of state pure for the majority of the republican period until some time after the second punic war, but they did conquer lesser races and enslave them, so no they weren't "entirely" Germanic, for the entirety of their existence. But you fail to understand just how quickly a race can degenerate due to miscegenation.
>They are center of perverts and liars who use them to fabricate claims as a way to lie about how they are rightful rulers of land they've wanted to conquer.
Except all the evidence dictates that the gay shit talked about today is either slander entirely fabricated by kikes or kike-slaves now or based on extremely flimsy evidence like slander heaped upon our ancestors by Christians, or Faggot depicting Art that devoid of the cultural context mema nothing in and of themselves, I provided a book that debunks the slander heaped upon the Hellenic people of the past, and regardless of what that slander may be used for today it does not denigrate the accomplishments of the past.
>We don't need Greeks and the Romans to prove ourselves worthy or of a great people, especially in a way that lead to the Aryan's own destruction. Nobody is using that to prove anything, merely expounding upon the Truth of History, it is categorically obvious that the Aryan race is superior and the accomplishments of Rome and the Hellenic City States, is but one source of evidence to that effect.
Knowing our history cannot lead to our destruction, it gives us great motivation and hope for the future, it shows us the heights to which our race and ascend, and shows us the mistakes not to make.
>I can believe India was Aryan, but it's bullshit that Whites needed muh Rome in order to establish a high culture. 
India was never fully Aryan, the Aryans were always conquerors aparrently of the Australoid looking Dravidians of India, first many thousands of years ago so as to be nothing but distant memory even in the Vedas, and the other much more recently but still quite ancient.
Nobody said we needed Rome or Greece to establish a high culture, to be honest everything you're saying and claiming sounds like Reavtionary rhetoric unconcerned with what the truth is and entirely concerned with avoiding the slander of our enemies, the only reason you're even remotely concerned about the faggotry slander is that you thibk it will always be an excuse for degeneracy, it wasn't in the 1800's, or right up until the 1950's, so the problem isn't the history it's those writing the history.
>Plus, it is skeptical if the Romans truly kept themselves pure, because they were said to have mixed with their own slaves and the miscegenation is probably what lead to the civil wars in the first place.
The romans didn't, they began miscegenating after they allowed women privileges after the socond punic war and a hundred or so years after they were selling their Germanic daughters off to lessers for money, diluting their blood, and causing their decline which was slowed greatly by the change to Dictatorial emperors.
>Homer's Troy and Illad does not correspond with the geography with Greece at all, but his description of what is supposed to be Greece. 
No, it's supposed to be somewhere in the Mediterranean, but Homer did not live the story he pieced it together from stories throughout the Hellenic Lands, and thats eveident from the text itself, it was never a perfectly historical story, nor was it meant to be.
>If anything I'm more inclined to believe the story actually takes place between England or Denmark and not of Greeks. Why do you refuse to acknowledge that this story occurred and was fully written by us Germanics in our own homeland. 
Because it wasn't wrotten by us in our homeland, it was wrotten by one of us who lived in what we now call Greece, could it be depicting a Story from the land they called Hyperborea? perhaps but it doesn't really matter the story was put together and written dow by a man called Homer, 
>Claiming that the Greeks were Germanic is no different than Albanians claiming that Alexander The Great was an Albanian.
No it's nothing like that, it's the truth whereas the Albanians are trying to take the figure of Alexander and his extreme aptitude for warfare away from the Germanic race.
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It's stahlvorhang. Bassically a huge mod made by russians, about what-if berlin-moscow axis was formed. 
Here you some of the planned fuhrers
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And yeah you can wage war against ussr. Just with warrying results based off the fuhrer/ reichkanzler.
>>359
look pretty impressive hopefully it doesn't end up like TNO with a unrealistic system (ie historical characters acting completely different from there irl counterparts) and nonsensical events just looked at there social it looks like its being worked on for a few years and not done yet looks pretty good so far
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>like TNO with a unrealistic system
Nah I don't think they will.
>and nonsensical events just looked
I doesn't look like it.
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>>358
>I concluded he was a Q-kike from his channel avatar, and half the content of his fucking channel
The thing here is that the guy talking is not his bitchute channel for his actual channel is on jewtube. The video also exposes the Jewish kingdoms as fraudlent.

>which is bullshit, we know hige swaths of History that was in Roman hands was destroyed both intentionally and out of neglect by Christians
You do know that most of ancient Rome and Greek history is quite literally written, translated, and rewritten by the Christians right? If the Christians intended to destroy Rome, then explain why they would reconstruct or bring back its existence as something glorious and pagan? The only excuse I could see is probable is simply, because they wanted money and to find validation for Catholic imperialism. This was especially the case of Jerusalem and all of Palestine. 

>and that just one thing half of what we know of Ancient History is from recopys of recopys, but we have enough to know that Rome and Greece did happen more than 200 years ago aside from the scientific evidence of the age of many monuments left.
Most "scientific" evidence is full of shit and even this can be easily fabricated to reinforce a lie. The evidence is up to you to believe in it, but nothing stop us from being skeptical as it can never be said to be objectively true. All evidence must correspond to the inconsistency of the mainstream narrative of ancient history. The science is just as faulty as the timeline they try so hard to claim is real and totally not constructed by the Italian republicans. 

>I'm not watching a Q-kike talk about anything
Then don't bitch about the video. All you've done here is complain about its content and how it breaks your little fetish for Greece and Rome. 

> it's nothing but a waste of time and so are you, patterns repeat, it's part of the nature of the universe
<No man ever steps in the same river twice. For it's not the same river and he's not the same man.”-Heraclitus
Patterns don't repeat in the exact same way, and this especially applies to history as well. Even mainstream historians acknowledge this, but they refuse to apply the logic to Rome, Greece, and Judaism. The world is not in a state of flux. And you're quite arrogant in thinking so, faggot. Prove it is or stfu.

>They remained pure in aristocracy and all other matters of state pure for the majority of the republican period until some time after the second punic war
>they wuz GERMANIC N SHIET
This all your own interpretations. Like I said, the Romans were also quite infamous in having sexual intercourse with their own slaves who spanned around the globe. The purity of the aristocracy is unknown and was likely dead prior to Imperial Rome. All you have is interpretation and lack evidence to constitute your claims. This is Yakub-tier nonsense.

>Except all the evidence dictates that the gay shit talked about today is either slander entirely fabricated by kikes or kike-slaves
The evidence shows that it was mostly lied about, but it existed to an extent. It most certainly was not accepted by either the nobility or citizen, but there are still reports of existing to an degree. But the claims of them pozzed is pointless, because the the same people who claimed they were degenerates are also the same writers who constructed most of Rome's history. 

>Knowing our history cannot lead to our destruction
If our history is bullshit and meant to validate kikes, then it isn't history. It's just more lies. You're skewing over what I said and it seems you're another dumb Romanboo or Hellenboo. We don't need the Romans or Greeks, we need to acknowledge and be proud of our own respective cultures and dispel the Judeo-Christian lies of Europe being primitive and inferior. You just want to we wuzz, I want to affirm all European culture as being always great whether our enemies think agree or not, we are not the same.

>India was never fully Aryan, the Aryans were always conquerors aparrently of the Australoid looking Dravidians of India
Read the Rigvedas. You're endorsing Dravidian lies that are endorsed by jews. The kike David Reich even knew they were White Aryans and he went back on what he say, likely because he knew what would entail for history and how Hitler was actually right. 

> Nobody said we needed Rome or Greece to establish a high culture
You most certainly are acting this way with the upmost desire to claim that they were ashkually Germanic and now you want the Aryans of India, who were genetically similar to Germanics of the Northern Europe as Dravidian. 

>the only reason you're even remotely concerned about the faggotry slander is that you thibk it will always be an excuse for degeneracy,
No I didn't. You should learn to stop seething as you post your thoughts, because I never implied this at all. I don't care if our enemies claim we were degeneracy, because I know it's all a lie. What I want is to prove that with degeneracy or not, it wasn't med-cucks who formulated the basis of Indo-European culture, which another lie the jew is trying to spread, HARD. I want it to be proven that the Germanic, Celts, Slavs, Iranians, Iberians, etc etc have all developed their own culture into something magnificent prior to any retarded nonsense about how Rome build European civilization.

>The romans didn't, they began miscegenating after they allowed women privileges after the socond punic war
Learn to spell, and where is your proof of this. Miscegenation likely existed prior to the Punic wars, which slavery was instituted, largely practiced, and sexual amongst the wealthy.

>No, it's supposed to be somewhere in the Mediterranean
No, it was supposed to be in the Mediterranean surrounding Greece and Troy and the Illad do not correspond with its geography. Since when did Greece have a midnight twilight or have climates where it is regularly cold and stormy, anon? These description more-so describe the sea and lands surrounding the Atlantic Ocean and Baltic sea. The fault is on being Homer being purposely vague.

>Because it wasn't wrotten by us in our homeland, it was wrotten by one of us who lived in what we now call Greece
Or, it was written by a collection of different writers in Northern Europe or Homer stole these stories that actually occurred far North of Greece. After-all the Illad is very viking in its virtues.

>No it's nothing like that, it's the truth whereas the Albanians are trying to take the figure of Alexander and his extreme aptitude for warfare away from the Germanic race.
<Actually, Alexander wasn't an Albanian. He was of the Germanic race! 
Nigger, you're doing the exact same thing.
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>>367
>The thing here is that the guy talking is not his bitchute channel for his actual channel is on jewtube. The video also exposes the Jewish kingdoms as fraudulent.
If his actual channel was on youtube, why would you not provide that? As it is I found it and the guy is as insane as I thought and whether he's a q-kike or not, he himself is suspect and the man whos work the book he's going over, is based on, is a Mathematician, not an Historian. One Anatoly Fomenko, a Soviet and later Russian who rather than presuming, correctly, that the pattern of history reflects something more profound about us and the universe, that patterns repeat, and due to our short memories, that are prone to error, that we will find a pattern that helps us convey events most easily regardless of it's absolute accuracy. He assumes that a pattern repeating makes history entirely false, and that older events are reflections of more modern events despite all evidence to the contrary, and thus the entire chronology is wrong rather than events being less exact than they are taught to be. The fact is most historians, of any sort, do not provide exact dates or even exact years for much of anything prior to maybe the 500's CE, and even then the dates are to be taken with a grain of salt because nobody outside of the upper classes paid much attention to the exact date before this century and even then their attention to such a detail is variable at best. In my own searches through genealogical records I have several recent ancestors whose dates of birth and death are inaccurate or entirely unknown. 
Anatoly took an arbitrary Chronology, plotted it out mathematically, then claimed that because the patterns are very similar that the older stuff is fake, never occurring, despite how different the things that happened are, that because they are purported(with no claim of perfect accuracy) to happen at this or that frequency they must be fictions based on this other thing that happened here, which happens to share a similar frequency and have vaguely similar names and events involved.
>You do know that most of ancient Rome and Greek history is quite literally written, translated, and rewritten by the Christians right? 
Yeah, which is why you must dig for the truth.
>If the Christians intended to destroy Rome, then explain why they would reconstruct or bring back its existence as something glorious and pagan?
It is to imply a legitimate continuation of Romes authority and justification of Rome's hegemony, and they often did, and still today, denigrate the glory of Rome as something lesser than the Christian era of Rome, despite all evidence to the contrary.
>Most "scientific" evidence is full of shit and even this can be easily fabricated to reinforce a lie. 
Which is why we often look to the past, and to less corrupted scientists and historians for our information, or doing the research into the original texts ourselves.
>The evidence is up to you to believe in it, but nothing stop us from being skeptical as it can never be said to be objectively true. All evidence must correspond to the inconsistency of the mainstream narrative of ancient history. The science is just as faulty as the timeline they try so hard to claim is real and totally not constructed by the Italian republicans. 
You can be a skeptic all you like but to claim that all the evidence from our ancestors and for their existence has somehow been warped to such an extreme degree is beyond preposterous, it's bordering on flat out insanity and then going on to try and claim that the Italians fabricated all of this to somehow prop themselves up is also ridiculous.
>All you've done here is complain about its content and how it breaks your little fetish for Greece and Rome. 
It's content is based on the work of a man who isn't an historian but a mathematician, from and trained by Soviet Russia, and is completely incongruent with any historical work from any walk of life, even the work of National Socialists, and is incongruent with the archaeological evidence even that discovered before the modern era.
I don't need to watch the entire video to see that the shit this guy wrote is bullshit that nobody who's even remotely knowledgeable or has done any research at all would listen to, unless they wished to entertain themselves with a completely fictional narrative, and I do not have a "fetish" for Greece and Rome, I have a desire for the truth, and this shit you're trying to pilpul is not the truth, it is, as best as I can determine, improperly applied mathematics and science to a multitude of fields to create pulp fiction for conspiracy minded people, unfortunately many who call themselves National Socialist fall under this category. 
>Patterns don't repeat in the exact same way, and this especially applies to history as well. 
And from his own work, they don't, the differences are small but they are there, in his own statistical graphs. The biggest problem and a big part of what makes history so inconsistent is the history of the jews, being grafted into real history at the behest of semites and Philosemites. The story as it is depicted in the torah/old testament and the new testament, is largely a fiction, wholly made up jewish bullshit, it mentions some real historical figures to give it legitimacy but is entirely fabricated. You see, unlike you, the jews realize the importance of a story to the foundation of a people regardless of it's truth, the founding myth is a very important thing and this is taught to us by the stories of Rome and Greece and their Nordic Rulers, Aristocracy, and in many cases large portions of their lower classes.
>The world is not in a state of flux.
I have no idea what you're even referring to here, I haven't even come close to claiming this, that said it is in a constant state of flux, time marches ever onwards band that march is the the only constant in the universe, that constant is properly called change, the universe does not and never has stopped changing, ever, and thus it is in a constant state of flux, and that is what Heraclitus is depicting in that sentence, even if it's moments apart the man who enters the river is not entering the same water he first went through, nor is he the exact same as when he last went through it.
>This all your own interpretations. Like I said, the Romans were also quite infamous in having sexual intercourse with their own slaves who spanned around the globe. 
No, it's fact, based on the descriptions, and Phenotypes of the Roman Emperors themselves, as well as many of figures prior to the Imperial period, the Aristocracy was the last bastion of purity until the late imperial period, around the time of Constantine, did they really decline entirely into non-existence, and while they may have had sex with slaves any children resultign from those unions were not allowed to become Citizens by birth and most often were simply abandoned, it is when their women became corrupted that impurity started creeping into the aristocracy through marriages for monetary gain that began to be arranged.
>The evidence shows that it was mostly lied about, but it existed to an extent. 
No, it doesn't, It existed only when they hit the peak of their respective declines, and less so among the Greeks, and the evidence reflects that, as shown by this Historian: 
https://letsupload.cc/m964H569ye/Faggotry_in_Ancient_Greece_-_The_Myth_is_Collapsing._pdf
Homosexuality always creeps out of the woodwork in times of decline, it existing, in some cases, is not unexpected to any student of history whatsoever.
>If our history is bullshit and meant to validate kikes, then it isn't history. 
I like how you move the goalposts, the History of the Aryan race does not glorify kikes, from the Philosemitic Christkike perspective it validates the perpetual pervading guilt the religion encourages, which is why the continual Roman war with Judea and it's jewish populace and much of the History of Rome as an Empire whether in the republican period or the imperial period was left untouched, with gaps here and there where it benefited the philosemitic Christniggers and the jews they aided themselves.
It's not we-wuzzing if it is actually the truth, for one, in fact all this does is lift the so-called primitive cultures of the Pre-christian North-western Europeans even higher as they spawned the tribes that would become the Romans and the Hellenes, perhaps the christians and their jewish overlords exterminated the cultures and beliefs of these tribes that much more effectively because they acknowledged this truth and its threat to their power just as you deny it and make up bullshit to throw on me
 because you do not see this from the broader scope
>Read the Rigvedas. 
I have, you faggot, the evidence shows that the original writers of the eldest Vedas were Aryan, but it tells the story of how thjey came to India from the north the Arctic, when the second wave of Aryan conquerors came the original Aryan tribes had miscegenated with the native populace of Dravidians, and they proceeded to do the same, until we have the result we see today, An extreme upper class that has a vaguely Aryan phenotype with many elements from Dravidians. Hitler had nothing to do with the rigvedas or any broad claims about them, and cared not for any of it, it was Himmler whose focus was on that, and he happened to be on the right track.
>You most certainly are acting this way with the upmost desire to claim that they were ashkually Germanic and now you want the Aryans of India, who were genetically similar to Germanics of the Northern Europe as Dravidian. 
You're flip-flopping all over the place first you say David Reich the kike, showed the Aryans of India were white and european, but backtracked, and now you seem to make the opposite claim, and the word is utmost by the way,
My desire is to lift the Germanic peoples of this planet from Ireland to Scandinavia to Germany and Russia to Australia and New Zealand to America up, and acknowledging the truth of how far we spread and conquered and how superior we truly are by using the truth of the Roman and Hellenic heritages to lift the original cultures that much higher, it  doesn't seek to put those cultures above our own it uses the cultures of Rome and Hellas to point out the superiority of those cultures that spawned them in the first place.
>because I never implied this at all
<They are center of perverts and liars who use them to fabricate claims as a way to lie about how they are rightful rulers of land they've wanted to conquer. We don't need Greeks and the Romans to prove ourselves worthy or of a great people, especially in a way that lead to the Aryan's own destruction.
Either your sentence construction is so poor as to imply the opposite of what you seem to be implying or you did imply that right here. Learn to use english correctly, nigger.
>What I want is to prove that with degeneracy or not, it wasn't med-cucks who formulated the basis of Indo-European culture, which another lie the jew is trying to spread, HARD.
And you do that BY PROVING THAT THE ROMANS AND HELLENES WERE NOT MEDS BUT NORDICS, YOU FUCKING RETARD, it subverts both the interests of jews and that of the Arabian looking Italiniggers and Greeks of today(excluding the still relatively pure Aryan populations that seem to congregate mostly in the northern regions of both places).
>Learn to spell, and where is your proof of this
You show your stark ignorance of the history of Rome here, that is when the decline of Rome began due to the Patricians of Rome, the Nordics who conquered the region, who made up the majority of the craftsman classes and the entirety of the Aristocracy would within two generations begin selling Daughters off to wealthy merchants for gain allowing the poisonous blood of lessers into the heights of Rome. whether there were slaves and freemen roaming around prior to that that had been bred by Roman Patricians with slave bitches is immateral that is roughly the point at which they began allowing it into their own Houses, usually with excess daughters at first, it 's also when they began allowing women more privielges than they ever had before.
>These description more-so describe the sea and lands surrounding the Atlantic Ocean and Baltic sea. The fault is on being Homer being purposely vague.
And my rebuttal was that the story may have originally been from the place they called Hyperborea, and had changed by the time Homer began writing it down, and this is incredibly likely, and would just go even further to prove their Nordic Origin.
>it was written by a collection of different writers in Northern Europe or Homer stole these stories that actually occurred far North of Greece. After-all the Iliad is very viking in its virtues.
Or my assertion above, it being very "viking" in it's values tells one of two things, either Homer travelled all the way to Scandinavia and Germany etc. stole stories and then returned to Hellas and spread it as their own foundation myth, or the story was built on tales that had come with them from their place of origin, that they called Hyperborea, with events in the Mediterranean overlayed on top of it, unifying the foundational mythology of Hellas. Which is more likely? The second is the far more likely option.
>Nigger, you're doing the exact same thing. 
No, the descriptions of him, while he was alive show him to have Blond hair and Blue eyes, He was Half-macedonian and half-Epiran, Both people on the Aristocratic level, at least, of Nordic Phenotype, his existing Statues show a Nordic Phenotype as well, He was Nordic, in truth.
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>unpopular opinions
Ideology is a meme, Religion even a bigger meme
Existance is Ontology, most religionists wether Christcucks or Pagans or whatever the fuck are carbon copies of Prayer and Belief, Read Evola or Guenon for a semblance of what Actual Spirituality looks like

Ideology is secularized religion, it is the Telluric, the Sub-personal, put a fucking label, then put a set of rules
then submit yourself to it, the more you anihilate your personality and make yourself look like the label
the better, most Fucking Faggots i've met (not excluding this place) are lemmings, that instead of integrating
their Ideologies into what they are, they mold themselves, shift themselves turning into a parroting parody
spouting cooked Dogmas over and Over

Humanity does not exist, the Gnostics and many others have proven the distinction between
Pasu, Virya, Siddha, equality is joke, thus when fags keep peddling for "XYZ is the cause for ZYX"
and keep adscribing the symptoms as if they were the causes, they fail to notice this, and they fail
to realize that some things work for some people, and others do not

an example of this:/SIG/ would shit on me day and night the second i'd mention i wank 9+ times a day
and play a lot of vidya, some people have fucked their lives over porn addiction, me?
well i keep reading on a daily basis, i have a workout routine, i keep thinking and contemplating
Masturbation hasn't affected my life in the list, in fact i'd say that wanking it to Anime Girls have
given me some fuel for the Fire

is Masturbation bad? No, Is Masturbation Good then? no, it depends on the Man, it depends on your Ontological
status, Every Man should allow himself whatever he can reject, there's a Reason why in Traditional States
the Higher Classes were allowed to perform things that the lower couldn't because their Spiritual Qualifications
permitted them to perform certain activities without self-destruction, Morality is for those retarded Pasu Niggers
that can't into Metaphysics

another example of this would be the ammount of faggots that have done shit like Lifting for the sake
of Looking better, or Feeling stronger, they base their entire self-esteem upon that arbitrary activity
then when it fails, when they stop lifting or cannot anymore they rebound, become depressed and fall
at the seams, they Did X to get Y, instead of organically seeking an action because it is what one
should do, not because someone else told you, or because you "need" to, but because it feels natural

Even better, i can't count how many historical events or data have been re-purposed
"Rome fell because they racemixed!"
"Rome fell because corrupt Patricians!"
"Rome Fell because XYZ!"

Nevermind what Romans actually said. Romans were great because military prowess and peak
Political power, nobody gives a shit when Cicero and many other Romans said that it was Spirituality
what sets them appart, why? because nobody gives a shit about about Romans, it is only important
as a tool, wether it is for Jews to push for Homoshit by making claims about Romans being fags
or "Traditionalists" making their meme VHS filter "Reject Modernity" bullshit that's based about shallowly
being a "Man" by becoming a surreal fucking Stereotype, it is the same with all other
historical events and data, nobody gives a shit about what actually happened, its importance is to
twist it so it fits a Label, Ideologism, filling the void within with external Validation, the Label Feels good
the Label is all that matters, no Organicism, no Ontology, no Being, only Becoming

same thing with Race, the retardation and biologism of it, there's more to Race than Genetics
and i am very fucking tired of being Conscripted into Racialism, into "Saving the Race" by having "White Children"
that are 99% of the time going to turn into Gorilla nigger rappers or some shit, most "White People" behave like
Niggers, Quality > Quantity, what makes a Virya stand out from the Pasu is Spirit, Spirit requires Race, but it is not
Granted by it, as i said, most White people are White, but not Aryans

overall, there's only two Fucking Niggers here, the World, and Me, and im really fucking tired of this world
i'd put a bullet through all 7.9 Billion cocksuckers wasting oxygen, but logistics impedes me
>inb4 hurr durr just tarrant
no nigger, that's only gonna get more Gun Laws and more power to the fucking ZOGbots, what's needed
is Systemic Genocide, and im only ONE Fucking Man

TL;DR read Evola, stop being a fucking parrot, listen to yourself first, and do what you REALLY believe, not what some fucking Ideologue told you to do, fuck Dualism because its a meme, fuck Religion because the only real religion is Metaphysics, everything else is Plebeian Crap made by the Anti-Christ and Kikes to destroy Metaphysics

im gonna start a fucking Holocaust, and im not gonna stop until im the only one left standing, on a Island built with the bones of my enemies (everyone) sitting on a ocean of Blood
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The amount of blackpillers and kikes ITT is honestly impressive.

>>39
> everyone is White, Christian
You defeated yourself right there genius.

>>52
> The anti-feminist attitudes of the modern right, both fascist and conservative
You can't be "modern", even less mere "right", and be fascists. Likewise, you cannot be conservative and fascist.
>are responsible for unjustifiable, systematic harm to white women and their children, and the adults they grew up to be (male and female).
It's the current times that are terrible to our women.
And don't ever invoke the Fourteen Words, you scoundrel.

>>66
Recreational drugs are destructive for the most part.

>>196
I am not going to intrude more into this fantastic discussion you have with Mr. Ethnoglobe but there are some points that very much need to be addressed.
>Was ancient china not civilization?
Merely looking at how they behave today and only compete because we once again shared our knowledge with them, I have no doubt now that the China we speak of in the past was, a long time ago, quite different from what we project. Notwithstanding the copious amounts of race mixing due to many brutal invasions and enslavement, we also know that there were two major White settlements in China thousands of years ago, one in the extreme upper West, the other in the upper East not too far from the Japanese archipelago. Even several centuries ago, the leader of the Golden Horde named Genghis Khan was known to be a mulatto with some faint Aryan features.
>Egypt? India?
Peaked when ruled by Whites. Everything else after that was a more or less stretched and diluted management of what was built before by Whites.
> Ethiopia?
Much less impressive and spilling from power and influences emanating from Egypt and local powers around the Red Sea, themselves also fueled by the old riches coming from the Middle East. Which brings us to Persia that peaked under Aryan rule too.
>How do you define "civilization" in such a manner that only whites are capable of creating and sustaining it?
Only the fairest of the Asian tribes managed, somehow, to remain developed enough. Japan was lagging behind Europeans and needed a major upgrade by Whites during the Meiji era. Japanese are now the most efficient and creative of all Asians and that is due to the fact that their implicit racial upper caste is actually partially mongrelized with leftovers from ancient Indo-European elements. On the same hand, the darker skinned a people, the more mediocre it is in about every thing. Whites are unarguable Nature's finest creation.
As soon as the "White Gods" left Central America, the natives lost all knowledge of the temples their ancestors were guided into building. It took several centuries before Whites returned there and unearthed these buildings from the encroaching jungles.
>Please provide some kind of evidence that Christianity is a Jewish construct meant only to subvert their enemies
A pity the former fash board was purged, it had more than enough evidence of this, but this is too long a debate to resume here.

>>197
>Hitler's retelling of struggle was merely him adapting eastern beliefs to fit his political manifesto. To say that Hitler believed in any legitimate higher power, be it God, Odin, Nature, whatever you want to call it, is nonsense; he believed in the same perverted way you do: by not considering the truth, but to how it can be warped and distorted to fit his ambitions.
I don't know how long you plan on residing here, but this level of garbage coming from a Christian is as unsurprising as it will get you mauled as often as necessary. National Socialists saw through Christianity and Hitler was only partial to an aryanized version of it because it appears he held a belief of Jesus being a gentile, although it is hard to know how true this claim is. It would have also implied an urgent revision of the coherence of Christianity as Paul and several Apostles would need to be opposed to whatever would have been the true, unfiltered and undamaged teaching of the fabled Yeshuos.
>Redhead chinese mummies? What the fuck anon?
Then very clearly you are a newcomer. This information is rather old by now and wasn't even limited to /fascist/. You merely jumped out of your bubble with the intent to proselytize your jewed creed here.
> As stated at the start of my posts there is reasonable doubt that Odin was not as straight and manly as you believe he was.
Aside from his dabbling into some seidr, which for some reason was a female duty although not too dissimilar to the privilege attributed to the seers of Delphi, and that alone would still be a far cry from a plain homosexual behavior.
>The Ottomans were successful only because of stolen European technology and tactics? And not, say, massive manpower, a common belief in Islam/Allah, hugely skilled horse trainers, and geographic superiority? They were only successful because they stole from the white man?
They obviously had their own very real resources and excellence but it would be a critical mistake to ignore how important the White janissaries were to the Turkish lords; White enslaved and brainwashed into serving the Ottoman empire against their own ancestors' peoples.
> If natural law is true, Christianity should've died out long ago for being meek and submissive.
You should think about it. It absolutely is of a slave mentality but endured that long because as insane as it sounds on paper, Europeans never put to practice what the Gospels commanded them to do. It is in fact this demented state of schizophrenia that has saved Europe from being the victims of major invading forces. That and considerable levels of hypocrisy from the Papacy itself. At least Islam was and still is uncompromising about the infidels and the need for a war to convert people to the light by the sword.
>Yet 2000 years later it's still around and has the most followers in the world. Meanwhile "strong" paganism is now nothing more than fairy tales worshipped by a handful of online atheists that traded their fedoras for rune necklaces. Many of them nonwhite, mind you.
You are tiresome. How many times has this silly claim been made and so easily rebutted? Here, not willing to waste time on this, I will nonetheless remark how there is something truly pathetic in seeing a White person defend an alien religion forced upon his European ancestors while disparaging a truer native spirituality, beliefs and customs. You may want to look into how your invasive religion of love and denial of primeval diversity spread throughout the Roman Empire and Northern Europe.
Hell, your opinion isn't even unpopular. It's just embarrassing for how uninformed it is.
>The natural law that is presently telling the white race to lay down and die, and they are accepting it
Not all of them and this state of affairs is due to the propaganda relentlessly pushed onto us by the parasite Jew and his necessary White traitorous allies. Our situation didn't come about naturally, in a vacuum.

>>204
> would of ridiculed
Check your grammar, nigger.

>>212
>You can connect the dots between seidr and ergi quite clearly. Loki called Odin a faggot.
Let's not pretend a single word could have different values depending on the context. Like a sexual ergi would certainly be different from someone referred to as an ergi for having had dabbled in divination practices exclusively defined as belonging to women, and that maybe, just maybe because it would involve being on the receiving (passive) end of spiritual forces and other sources of of knowledge there again linked to water instead of fire. Odin had his own storyteller who was a woman and consulted with Hella too for further information. Other than that it was giants, with all the implicit issues raised by their nature, who took on similar activities.
Finally, much of this is based on texts that could be somehow contaminated because of when they were written and by whom.
>Again, why does it describe such deviancy in-depth? Why does the religion that you so love and hold dear as EVROPEAN CVLTVRE filled with such rampant displays of faggotry and smut?
They are few and when it comes to Loki I would have thought that it was most obvious that they served as a tale of caution. In fact the whole of the Eddas show him becoming more and more of a nuisance and a deviant, until he finally sides with the Aesir's enemies and participates in the very destruction of the world and Asgard, getting locked into a battle against the White God and both of them killing each other. So it would be very, very disingenuous to claim that Loki would at any time be used as some kind of cultural positive reference.for the people.
>You have plenty of Tumblr witches that tried to bring down the Taliban through their gayass rituals and fucking lost in their own fantasy world. People will try anything, and if you drink the Norse koolaid enough you start to believe that what you're doing is actually working.
Wait. Are you implying that genuine Norse-related spiritual activities are not working, whereas your Christian ones are? If yes, clearly you haven't tried anything of value yet.
>Paganism attracts nonwhites from across the globe who try to worship Odin just as you do.
Correction retard. Pozzed paganism that shoud exclusively belong to Whites for obvious reasons. Hence why racist Odinism or Wotanism were a necessity to counter that perversion and corruption. This multicultural bland of Astru is pushed by liberals, soyfags and weaklings.
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>>375
>Guenon 
Spiritual sandniggerism.
>same thing with Race, the retardation and biologism of it, there's more to Race than Genetics
and i am very fucking tired of being Conscripted into Racialism, into "Saving the Race" by having "White Children"
that are 99% of the time going to turn into Gorilla nigger rappers or some shit, most "White People" behave like
Niggers, Quality > Quantity, what makes a Virya stand out from the Pasu is Spirit, Spirit requires Race, but it is not
Granted by it, as i said, most White people are White, but not Aryans
Mate with a sheboon and STFU then. Meanwhile true Whites will do whatever possible to make sure that future White children aren't pushed by Goldstein into listening to shitpop and get aroused by fatty twerking chocobutts.
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>>397
The christnigger ran away, as I'm sure you saw, also this is kind of the designated thread for blackpillers, kikes and morons, it's far from perfect at containing them but it works well enough.
>>370
>If his actual channel was on youtube, why would you not provide that? 
Why do I have to provide something you aren't going to read or watch anyway? You showed that you did not care where my info came from and now you do. 
https://m.youtube.com/c/TherealNotus

>Anatoly Fomenko, a Soviet and later Russian who rather than presuming, correctly, that the pattern of history reflects something more profound about us and the universe, that patterns repeat, and due to our short memories, that are prone to error, that we will find a pattern that helps us convey events most easily regardless of it's absolute accuracy. He assumes that a pattern repeating makes history entirely false, and that older events are reflections of more modern events despite all evidence to the contrary
>He assumes that a pattern repeating makes history entirely false, 
There is no evidence to the contrary. You're just saying a bunch of nothing with lack of proof for your claims. Historical events are not likely to occur the exact same way. Past and present occurrences are always unique in their way. They can have similarities to the things that have already happened, but for there to be an exact pattern that leads to the possibility that everything was done in a perfect or nearly perfect fashion is bullshit. You cannot find an example of this happening at all. And reading your entire sob, you obviously are confused in this topic. Anthony doesn't say that patterns prove history false, his mathematics and theory is that it is impossible for history and the world to be stagnated a copy of what it was before.

>Yeah, which is why you must dig for the truth.
You can't dig for a truth when you're constantly lying and deluding yourself. 

>It is to imply a legitimate continuation of Romes authority and justification of Rome's hegemony, and they often did
Yes, it is basically the meaning to say that Romans, not our own ancestors of our respective cultures, built our cultures' and sophistication, not us on our own. This is a cucked mentality to have, as you are not Roman and the imperial validation is a weird obsession amongst Christians as if it is a key point to the social engineering of Europeans.

>denigrate the glory of Rome as something lesser than the Christian era of Rome, despite all evidence to the contrary.
When you cope so hard you deflect my argument and proceed to vague about the evidence that is never provided. Nigger, the evidence shows that the Renaissance are the birth of mainstream Roman history and romanticism alike. This is not a mere "coincidence".

>Which is why we often look to the past, and to less corrupted scientists and historians for our information
I'm not convinced that your methods have you to much success.

>You can be a skeptic all you like but to claim that all the evidence from our ancestors and for their existence has somehow been warped to such an extreme degree is beyond preposterous, it's bordering on flat out insanity
The claim that history is likely occur exactly the same is arrogant and not only "beyond preposterous" (lol nice psued talk), but just simply retarded. Although your motivations to validate lies is clear as day for you want to LARP on about some White imperialism, while simunatenously being a cuckold to your ancestors. Although noticing that you are doing this whole "WE WUZ" nonsense. I wouldn't be surprised if you're just another Amerimutt for this is a common phenomenon. 

>It's content is based on the work of a man who isn't an historian but a mathematician
Anon, mathematics is a common tool that is used to root out errors and comprehend all formats. It is universally relatable to everything. Your arguments only works if it can be established that he tries to use math without understanding the context of history, which is not true. What does it take to be a historian other than listen to some dumb idiot who calls himself a professor, tell another dumb idiot what happened in the past, because the mainstream said it was true? Being a mathematician does not invalidate his critique nor criteria to participate in the skepticism of history. Mentioning that he was trained by the SU is purity-spiraling as his math is not motivated by politics nor of Soviet Scientism, and the NSDAP haven't changed much of the education system from the German Empire other than their drive for political indoctrination. 

>I don't need to watch the entire video to see that the shit this guy wrote is bullshit
No you do need to watch it as your arguments are off and you clearly do not understand your opponent's perspectives. Your incredibly wrong assumptions are based off of your own personal biases and you have not found a flaw nor proven yourself correct in critique of the video. This really shows when you accuse others of being jewish with juvenile reasoning. 

>more ramblings that are not based off his works
Watch the video and or just stop being a faggot.

>I have no idea what you're even referring to here,
I meant to say that the world is in state of flux. For there is clear evidence for this, both spirituality and scientifically. 

>I haven't even come close to claiming this,
Also you
<it's nothing but a waste of time and so are you, patterns repeat, it's part of the nature of the universe
All of your muh pattern arguments deflect my point on how it is impossible for the past to repeat itself as it exactly was before. You just simply refuse to understand where I'm coming from, along with the video I linked. It is not possible for there to be several patterns aligns almost perfectly well with another piece of history. 

>the universe does not and never has stopped changing, ever, and thus it is in a constant state of flux, and that is what Heraclitus is depicting in that sentence,
Yes, and time is apart of the universe, via defeating your point. Pipul.

>No, it doesn't, It existed only when they hit the peak of their respective declines
Your source only debunks the claim that homosexuality was common. 

>I like how you move the goalposts
This isn't goal-posting, retard. I'm specifically explaining to you that history is shit and gives our opponents leverage. I'm downright denying mainstream history.

>the History of the Aryan race does not glorify kikes
>History as I perceive does not
It literally shows paganisms as unnecessary, declining, and it was easily overtaken because "reasons", and that Christianity just somehow magically converted millions, even though everyone knew it was a Jewish religion and would be very reluctant in adopting it over their native faith.

>I have, you faggot, the evidence shows that the original writers of the eldest Vedas were Aryan, but it tells the story of how thjey came to India from the north the Arctic, when the second wave of Aryan conquerors came the original Aryan tribes had miscegenated with the native populace
>I have you! Here's some more delusional nonsense that is never proven nor accepted as evidence!
I said read the rigvedas, not bring up more nonsense. Tilak's theory was formulated on assertion of the geography of prehistoric India, not contents of the rigvedas itself. There's no evidence that shows this case at all. You're just being retarded again. 

>but it tells the story of how thjey came to India from the north the Arctic, when the second wave of Aryan conquerors came the original Aryan tribes had miscegenated with the native populace of Dravidians,
You didn't say nor have the proper English to imply that this is what you meant.

>You're flip-flopping all over the place first you say David Reich the kike, showed the Aryans of India were white and european, but backtracked
No I did not. Learn to fucking read and stop being retarded. I said he knew they were Aryans and HE backtracked. This means that he kvetch at the truth and lied peddled back to declare he thinks they were "peaceful migrations".

>My desire is to lift the Germanic peoples of this planet from Ireland to Scandinavia to Germany and Russia to Australia and New Zealand to America up, and acknowledging the truth of how far we spread and conquered
By lying and we wuzzing that the Romans were ashukally Germans, which you still have not proven.

>Either your sentence construction is so poor as to imply 
The problem here is that you cannot read for jack shit and come up with ignorant conclusions of what I'm saying. I'm wasting my time with someone this disingenuous. I wasn't talking about the fucking Romans and Greeks, I'm talking about THE PEOPLE CREATED THE LIES, specifically the fags and Jesuits who went on to make shit up about the Spartans had frequent sex with their best friends over their wives (this is actually something that happened in the Ottoman Empire).
Note what I said here
<They are center of perverts and liars who use them to fabricate claims as a way to lie about how they are rightful rulers of land they've wanted to conquer
Where did I call Greeks and Romans gay? I'm clearly stating that those who make their stories, are perverts and liars.

>And you do that BY PROVING THAT THE ROMANS AND HELLENES WERE NOT MEDS BUT NORDICS, YOU FUCKING RETARD
I asked you to prove to me they were several times, Amerimutt and you given me nothing. By "proving" you mean making stuff out your ass. Basically adopt Yakub-like tactics and make fools ourselves.

>You lack knowledge
>Here's more Yakub and we wuzzing
I'm not arguing with a fellow White man.

>And my rebuttal was that the story may have originally been from the place they called Hyperborea
No, your rebuttal was that the story was written in the Mediterranean, when I specifically explained that this was unlikely.

>Or my assertion above, it being very "viking" in it's values tells one of two things, either Homer travelled all the way to Scandinavia and Germany etc
Impossible. Homer was blind and the Greeks have never heard of Germans, until the Romans conquered them. It is impossible for him to travel there and no one heard of Scandinavians at that time. 

>He was Half-macedonian and half-Epiran
Not Germanic.

>Both people on the Aristocratic level, at least, of Nordic Phenotype, his existing Statues show a Nordic Phenotype as well, He was Nordic, in truth.
You're retarded and should stay out of white politics shit-skin, by your logic blond Slavs are also automatically Nordic.
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As an addition to the controversy regarding the Lokasenna and Loki's accusation thrown at Odin, the essay on a nid and the label ergi is very clear about the importance of cowardice as a defining factor for the accusation of homosexuality in character, that of someone who lacks courage. It would be obvious that this specific element cannot be maintained against Odin. The issue lies in a violation of duties exclusive to one sex or the other. It is not clear if Loki is even right in his accusation. He is smart and knowledgeable, although not wise by need, so he could be assuming a certain activity on part of Odin because of the deep knowledge the latter seems to be in possession of. Is it ever confirmed that Odin ever practiced seidr outside of this accusation? And why would this be known by anyone else but him? After all, in a similar manner, Odin's accusation equally contains a part of speculation, although the inferred truth is probably very close to reality in the of Sleipnir's birth.
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>>398
>Spiritual sandniggerism.
>t.hasn't read guenon
having some deja-vu from the guy who dismissed Evola because he was a dadaist painter after the war
either way this "answer" is enough to proove everything i said in my previous post is right

>Meanwhile true Whites will do whatever possible to make sure that future White children aren't pushed by Goldstein into listening to shitpop and get aroused by fatty twerking chocobutts.
thanks for being a archetypal parody of the type i just critiziced in my previous post

you're blind, you see the symptoms for the causes, you think its shitpop and jewish subversion what has made "people" this way (for all that i know, and from what i've barely skimmed in this thread, you probably even bought into the thinktank that roasties are salvageable and that fags can be "Redpilled"), it is not, before every subversion, there is first a drop in level, a drop in Spiritual Level,  there was no shithop or goldbergstein in government prior to the ((( French revolution ))) (most jews were expelled, or kept under control in those times, it has been like that since forever), yet bit by bit, in time, Man has been decaying (or rather, the vast majority of Pasu trash) and turning itself away from God/Divine
untill we find ourselves at this point in time

its not your ignorance (because being retarded usually only hurts the retard itself, unless there's some people under his responsability) but your way of getting half-assed think-tanks, putting them on a pedestal,
then pushing it unto others, God forbid anyone who does not buy what you sell, just like communists, liberals, kikes and all the other Telluric vermin

i could go on a endless tirade on ontology, explaining why Third Positionism is really just another Telluric iteration of the same Spiritual Poison as Communism, only appealing to a different type of Hyper-materialist Tellurism, i'd probably have done this if i saw this post 2 years ago, but now? fuck it, im not, im tired of having to "Justify" myself to others, specially other people who really only care about wether im willing to buy into their (Manufactured) worldview and become a good party-pet, another lemming for their Proxy war, Orchestrated and Planned by the Leviathan

I know what i Know, i know what i've seen and i know why i do the things that i do, in short im perfectly in Syncronicity with myself, that is enough for me, what you or other people do is irrelevant, i only wrote my previous post as a "Vent" and im only writting this one because its as good time as any to write down and talk to myself through posts, Providence will provide, Gehenna comes...
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>>410
>In this post, a shitskin shilling for spiritual sandniggerism is offended by Whites standing for their race.
Why bother?
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>>411
Shitskins should be banned on sight. Heck, any post that slightly sways from the common opinion here should be seen as a shitskin infliltrating.
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>>412
The whole userbase would be banned then considering it's nothing but shitskins larping as white.

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST Shitskin

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You wouldn't have looked any less credible actually providing the channel, and I found it myself, completely unnecessary for you to go find it and provide it, I still don't care what your source is, It's a moron talking out his ass about a theory that is the result of the work of a Soviet Mathematician. I need no more than that to completely disregard your entire argument as not only are you buying into enemy propaganda quite literally published before the Soviet union fell.
>There is no evidence to the contrary.
There is no evidence for the "history" you're shilling, there are statistical models that Anatoly made, one large flaw in his thesis is that Statistics and History do not mesh. The pattern is similar, in some cases, but not exact how this falsifies the current model is left completely unexplained. His claims are worthless, made to entrap the curious mind in a cycle of retarded bullshit that doesn't match with reality in the slightest. The errors that are possible with things like radiocarbon dating are well known and easily accounted for, and do not throw off the test in any great fashion.
Nothing that was gone over in that video repeated exactly any event before, in fact the events are radically different, what isn't different or rather what is very similar is the frequency of events, which means nothing. We do not have enough of an understanding of human nature, or of how nature as a whole affects us over long periods of time to say with any degree of certainty why that pattern might be, the fact that there is a pattern does not, in and of itself, mean anything.
>You can't dig for a truth when you're constantly lying and deluding yourself. 
The only one deluding themselves here is you, you watch a video by a fucking retard, on a book written by a french guy, which was based on the work of a fucking Soviet, most of my claims are based on work done by National Socialists, and historians from farther back than the majority of the poz of today.
>Yes, it is basically the meaning to say that Romans, not our own ancestors of our respective cultures, built our cultures' and sophistication, not us on our own.
Again you're claiming I'm doing something I haven't done even once. 
>This is a cucked mentality to have, as you are not Roman and the imperial validation is a weird obsession amongst Christians as if it is a key point to the social engineering of Europeans.
No, it's a weird point oif obsession for christniggers because they think it validates them and invalidates "dirty pagays" nothing more than that.
>Nigger, the evidence shows that the Renaissance are the birth of mainstream Roman history and romanticism alike.
Nigger you can't even see my point, or you would have realized it is a direct refutation of yours.
>I'm not convinced that your methods have you to much success.
You're convinced all of ancient history is made up, because a Soviet Mathematian said so and who searched for plausibly close names to try and shore up his obviously dubious claims.
>The claim that history is likely occur exactly the same is arrogant and not only "beyond preposterous" (lol nice psued talk), but just simply retarded. 
Not only is that not the claim, it's not even the point. You can't even address my argument so you just devolve to generalities, appeals to ridicule, (MUH WE WUZ you're like a nigger) and specious claims about me.
The fact is that Unlike th Negros We actually were these people, some returned home, continuing their lines in Scandinavia, Germany, and elsewhere some devolved into the Southern italians of today.
>Anon, mathematics is a common tool that is used to root out errors and comprehend all formats.
Anon, Mathematics is a fine tool, when it's used appropriately, here all he could use it for was to note the similarity in the pattern of events, he established no such link in the events themselves let alone that he often compared fictional(the biblical kingdoms shit)chains of events to real ones.
>Your arguments only works if it can be established that he tries to use math without understanding the context of history, which is not true. 
He was taught by the Soviets, so right there undeniable proof he doesn't understand history and if you had done any historical research whatsoever you would know most of it is built upon Archaeological work, Anthropological work, and much more just for the primary sources, secondary and tertiary, aren't used unless nothing else fills that gap. 
>Being a mathematician does not invalidate his critique nor criteria to participate in the skepticism of history.
Actually it does, he understands math and specifically statistics for this case, it's like using a hammer when you need a screwdriver, sure it'll get a result but that result isn't going to be worth shit.
>Mentioning that he was trained by the SU is purity-spiraling as his math is not motivated by politics nor of Soviet Scientism, and the NSDAP haven't changed much of the education system from the German Empire other than their drive for political indoctrination. 
First, he was taught and raised in Soviet Russia, that's enough to throw anything he does into question especially since neither he nor his parents defected either before or after the collapse in 1989. The NSDAP actually changed a lot of the education system, maybe not in structure, more important things to worry about, but definitely in substance.
>No you do need to watch it as your arguments are off and you clearly do not understand your opponent's perspectives. 
I watched more than half of it, even after calling it out as bullshit less than five minutes in, I will watch no more, I have no need for any more information to understand your "perspective" I understand it, and I have undermined it totally by demonstrating its falsity. Also, saying you're pilpuling isn't calling you a jew, the word describes an action, that you're behaving like a jew doesn't make you a jew
>All of your muh pattern arguments deflect my point on how it is impossible for the past to repeat itself as it exactly was before.
It's not a deflection, it a truth, Patterns repeat, everywhere, like the golden ration being reflected near universally, I saw no exact replication, whether in the individual events or the chain, and without an analysis of the math he used and what he was doing with it his pattern is itself worthless in it's entirety, and he provided the math used nowhere, at least nowhere that I have been able to see it.
>Yes, and time is apart of the universe, via defeating your point. Pipul.
Glossing over the inaccuracy of your statement, Time is an Idea, it is not a physical law or force of any sort, it's really just a name we put to the constant change, but that being true doesn't at all address any part of my point especially since it was based on your poor english skills.
>Your source only debunks the claim that homosexuality was common. 
Which means it was rare, as such, a deviant behavior, and it always has been, homosexuality existing at all was not the point, it has always existed or it would not exist today that dopes not make it any less unnatural.
>I'm specifically explaining to you that history is shit and gives our opponents leverage. I'm downright denying mainstream history.
It is goal posting, and So am I, using the evidence itself rather than soviet, kike or christkike lies on it.
>It literally shows paganisms as unnecessary, declining, and it was easily overtaken because "reasons",
The history christians have written to glorify themselves does the evidence does not reflect that, it shows how christians acted just like jews(partially because they started out as jews) and subverted the societies from the top down while pressing their holy war on every front using torture, and pointless slaughter to convert or kill any who resisted their subversion, while also showing their absolute failure to defend Europe at any point prior to our Aryan nature winning out in the fields of science it's not glorifying to them or kikes, which is why they write so much cope to hide it.
>Tilak's theory was formulated on assertion of the geography of prehistoric India, not contents of the rigvedas itself.
No tilak's theory was based on the Vedas, it's another guy who made the claim based on Indian geography and also stupidly claimed that India was the north pole at one point less than 10000 years ago, to attempt to invalidate the Aryan invasion theory.
>You didn't say nor have the proper English to imply that this is what you meant.
<India was never fully Aryan, the Aryans were always conquerors aparrently of the Australoid looking Dravidians of India, first many thousands of years ago so as to be nothing but distant memory even in the Vedas, and the other much more recently but still quite ancient.
That point is explicitly clear in this pinktext, You really need to learn how to write proper english and also learn common shorthand native speakers use.
>No I did not. Learn to fucking read and stop being retarded. I said he knew they were Aryans and HE backtracked. This means that he kvetch at the truth and lied peddled back to declare he thinks they were "peaceful migrations".
Yeah, that's what I said with "but backtracked" the subject of that verb was David Reich, not you and to any fluent speaker that's perfectly obvious. Your poor english skills are to blame for this confusion.
>By lying and we wuzzing that the Romans were ashukally Germans, which you still have not proven.
It's been covered numerous times on this board in the past, proven beyond all doubt, from the descriptions of the men in the iliad to that of the gods themselves, right down to existing personal descriptions of the romans themselves, the Romans were initially composed of a germanic tribe who went around conquering other racially similar tribes, and by the time they decided to try their hand at germanic lands had lost the power that being purely Aryan had granted them, only winning because germany and the germanic people at large were still fractious while Rome had a veneer of unity enforced by the weight of the Roman State and a still largely Aryan ruling class, at least, until around Constantine's rule,
>I'm talking about THE PEOPLE CREATED THE LIES, specifically the fags and Jesuits who went on to make shit up about the Spartans had frequent sex with their best friends over their wives (this is actually something that happened in the Ottoman Empire).
No, the problem is that you are an ESL nigger who thinks his english skills are hot shit, when they're barely sufficient for high school for native speakers.
They are lies and easily demonstrated as such, you're trying to weaken their position, by removing the evidence they warped to create their lies, but you fail to realize that hiding the truth as well as the lies open you for subversion. we have to allow the evidence to speak for itself. That shit is still rampant every where that arabic muslims exist.
>They are center of perverts and liars who use them to fabricate claims as a way to lie about how they are rightful rulers of land they've wanted to conquer
This was in response to my point about how the romans kept their blood pure, for a great portion of their history, mainly by only allowing people of a similar aka, Germanic, bloodline to obtain citizenship, a better sentence would have been "the (whoever you were actually talking about, presumably present day Italians, maybe jews or christjews) are perverting and lying about the the Ancient greeks and romans to encourage and validate faggots today. They are also using it to fabricate claims to, and validate their own rule over, lands today." As you originally wrote it, it makes no sense whatsoever. and actually implies you were calling the Greeks and Romans centers of perverts and liars  being used to justify that shit today.
>You didn't say nor have the proper English to imply that this is what you meant.
Actually, I implied exactly that, the native populace of India is dravidians, both the original Aryan migration, and the second, much more violent, wave miscegenated out of existence, not enough to destroy what had been done, but enough that no new innovation was possible, it became stagnant and could only be maintained, never improved upon.
>I asked you to prove to me they were several times, Amerimutt and you given me nothing. By "proving" you mean making stuff out your ass. 
I pointed you to several sources, in that post alone, you are just too lazy to go and look for them, Things such as "Who We Are" by William Luther Pierce, and "March Of The Titans", I think by an Arthur Kemp are both books on that exact thing, MOTT, much more in depth, Who We Are, much more concise, clear, and a bit dry but very good historical work. 
>I'm not arguing with a fellow White man
You aren't white, and you're just making appeals to ridicule, the archives for this board from 16 and Anon.cafe still exist, and there are links in several threads, and this subject was covered quite extensively on both sites.
>No, your rebuttal was that the story was written in the Mediterranean, when I specifically explained that this was unlikely.
One, we do not know for certain that Homer was blind his entire life, or if his being blind was ever actually true, because nobody has his body to make conclusions from, merely people talking about his work after he was long dead and how he was reputed to be blind.
Second, I said it was much more likely that Homer, before he went blind, had travelled all of the Hellenic lands, and collected a cohesive origin story which he then wrote down, the fact that that story seems so very similar to Nordic stories, in morality, and geographical elements within the story, shows clear, direct, evidence that the origin of the Hellenes was from Germanic lands.
>Not Germanic.
They were Germanic in blood and phenotype then as I have demonstrated, and from Alexanders own phenotype.
>by your logic blond Slavs are also automatically Nordic.
You have never heard of the Kievan Rus, have you? they were quite literally a tribe of Vikings who had settled in what is now Kiev and came to dominance over quite a lot of land out that way, and many Blond Slavs are Descendants of Germans and Vikings who had settled in various places out in what are now Slavic lands, some even quite far north in Russia, but you don't really care about the truth.
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>>412
This is the Unpopular Opinions thread, it's purpose is to contain these niggers here rather than them going around shitting up the rest of the threads.
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>>415
Fair point, although there is that fine frontier between having a controversy prone thread where all goes in, and the equivalent of completely manure filled dumpster when any kind of rot flies and proves worthless in the end.
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Could we have a TL;DR version of this post please?
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>>416
It is a fine balance and I try to keep it within those lines and if it devolves I'm sure people will let me know, either through the report system or right in the thread.
>>417
TLDR:
ESL anon is a retarded ignorant faggot, and can't into english and can't argue worth shit.
>>413
BO should make it clear that /fascist/ is for White anon posters only. Old /fascist/ used to entertain occasional shitskins who come and post (some who were regulars, if I recall correctly). And that turned out to be a terrible idea. If we should never converse with shitskins in real life, why do it online? Seems so stupid.

Get fucked, darkie.
the age of consent should be 35
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This white enough for you?
some high quality discussion board where the only discussion is essentially labeling anything oustide the circlejerk as wrongthink and therefore shitskin

>>252 is on point, even if i don't agree with him on some points, you are prettymuch the same sort of Mass vermin, "Pasu of the Right"

>offended by Whites standing for their race.
why should i be offended by dead men walking?, also if standing for your race means creating a political Hive like the Communists, the Liberals and prettymuch every single political circlejerk around then the bar isn't very high
>Spiritual sandniggerism
the irony here is that this whole "Mother Earth" bullshit you retards love so much is literal Spiritual Sandinggerism, its Pre-personal, Sub-Liminal worship of the Totemic collective, its Archetypal thinking, all forms of Actual Aryan Metaphysics (Neoplatonism, Gnosticism, Pali and Zen Buddhism, Early Hinduism, Hellenism and Traditional Paganism when actually understood and not just taken at face value with Pseudo-Odinist Pachamama New Age crap like you fucks are doing here etc...) advocate for Personalism, Detachment, Trascendance, From Heracles to Prince Siddharta to Krishna in the Baghavad gita, these were not "Men of the people" that "Saved their Races" and stooped themselves down to the Vermin, but rather, Men that listened to the Divine within them, and chose to Rise themselves to Divine Light

you are another Pasu, an eternal Mediocre peasant of the World, you see the Light and, instead of rising upwards to it, you demand that it falls from its throne so that others, who do not deserve it, may partake in it

this is what will eternally give all of you away, that no matter King/Fuhrer/Reichscomissar/Whatever the fuck, you will always claim that power comes "From Nature" and "From the People" Fascism in its implementation by Mussolini somewhat steered itself in the right direction by advocating for the Primacy of State over the People, but ultimately, it failed, it failed because the ones composing it were weak contaminated by a drop in spiritual level, by Tellurism and Populism, thus their implementations never reached beyond the realms of Profane Socio-economics

returning to Guenon, he became a Sufi later in his life, mainly because he earnestly thought there were still initiatic Centers in the world, i disagree with him, i do not think any more Yogi, or Masters exist, the ones who do are hidden, probably avoiding all this shit, he became a Sufi because he knows that Metaphysics is not a matter of Religion, but of a Trascendental Reality, it is no wonder that many concepts are Universal across religions, like how some idiot here talked about Homer learning XYZ from Scandinavians, wich is not, the Truth is that Metaphysics all comes from the Same Well of Divine wisdom (Gnosis if you will) Hyperborea, Agartha, Avalon, they are all the same locations, different Symbols for the same truth, just like how the Cycle of Ages is common in all Metaphysical rings aswell, from the Greeks to Aryan India, because Guenon knew this, he became a Sufi, none of his books really concern themselves Explicitly with sufism, they talk about Metaphysics, and Divine Wisdom, he became a Sufi not out of love for Mudslimes, much less for Abrahamism, but out of an ernest will to Trascend

Guenon and Evola are like the Snakes of the Caduceus, they both did the same thing through different Methods, Guenon was a Brahmin, he contemplated, Observed, and assimilated, Evola was a Ksatrya, he got involved in the world and took experiences as fuel for his Fire

all of this is beyond Party Politics, LARPing, and Dialectical Sophism, it belongs to the realm of Being, of Genuine personality, these are things that you will never archieve, they didn't because you chose not to, you chose like all other Pasu, to jump into the totem, to become a Eternal Servant of the Kosmokrator, you are a Proxy Soldier in a False Conflict, a False Conflict fought to serve as a Distraction for anyone who might pierce through the Veil of False Dualism

i said it before, and i say it again, All Aryans are White, but not all Whites are Aryan

>>420
Y tho?, by that age whores are borderline menopausic and ugly as all fucking shit, i can understand dudes waiting untill they
are actually wisened up to have responsible relationships or form a family or whatever, but some people (make that nobody) never learn, just look around at the masses, most 30-40 year olds already behave like Children
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Opinion: White unity should not usurp national identity.
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see >>118
Also, what you're advocating would inevitably lead to the lowest common denominator. There will always be differences and wars between us, because life is based on conflict. You can never erase our differences, and your attempt to do so would inevitably fail, while also leading to homogeny & impoverishment. The existence of different nations/races/cultures enriches us (not the violent "cultural enrichment", the real kind) because they trade, compete, and stimulate each other. For example, the fact that the Japanese have different racial qualities leads to them creating content that we never would've come up with. Thus, a variety of ethnostates provides true diversity (rather than the false Jewish kind, which is actually homogeny). And if the whole world is under one culture/gov't, that means there's a single failure point for the whole species. A fatally flawed New World Order would crash and burn everyone everywhere, and recovery would take as long as the Dark Ages after the Bronze Age Collapse, if not longer. By keeping the races divided, societal collapse can be contained and managed.
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What if I told you the idea of universal nationalism is no longer sought after? But rather a future where only Whites can thrive. See, if we kick out all the nonwhites to their respective homelands, our future descendants will somehow let them back in. Why? Because knowledge can be easily fade away as time goes by.

You know what we should be doing, but you're still shilling for that cucked solution of "every place for every race". I smell a civnat.
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>obvious shitskin tone
>showing only the bottom of your arm
What did I say? This board is for self hating muttoids and shitskins larping as white LOL
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If you meant ethnoglobe, you should've said so.

>See, if we kick out all the nonwhites to their respective homelands, our future descendants will somehow let them back in. Why? Because knowledge can be easily fade away as time goes by.
The brown invasions are the direct result of ZOG. Once a certain international clique has finally been dealt with, this won't be a problem -- in fact, most people of other races will prefer to stay in their homelands than be ostracized in a white ethnostate. If other races exist, our descendants won't forget the differences, and in fact will be spurred on by their presence to remain fit. The only real danger is forgetting about Jews, which is why those lessons must be taught in perpetuity.

I addressed the problems with ethnoglobe back on 16chan, but I'll reiterate:
As I said above, with only whites, we might get too complacent. The existence of other races will stimulate and motivate us to live up to our best form. We'll never be unified anyway, so we might as well keep the other races around for peak trade/exchange and competition.
Another reason is that when people are backed into a corner and given no alternative to extinction, they tend to fight back ferociously. Any attempt to establish ethnoglobe would see diminishing returns as we'd deal with endemic terrorism and guerilla warfare. Ethnocontinents would be a far more realistic and attainable goal.
Another reason is that I honestly wouldn't want to exterminate every other race. Some races, like the Japanese and Persians, are not unlike Aryans, just with different qualities.
Last but not least, before you can conquer the world, first you must survive. Even ethnocontinents is a lofty goal in our current circumstances.
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>This white enough for you?
You mean the underside of your kinky and oily haired arm? I've seen Jews who were Whiter than that.
>why should i be offended by dead men walking?
Don't worry Sanchez, I know how it makes you feel warm down there to know Whites could go extinct that soon. But try to contain that excitement and posturing a little bit when you post here.
>the irony here is that this whole "Mother Earth" bullshit you retards love so much
Wut.
>lines of pure blah
Sure lad, keep going.
> you will always claim that power comes "From Nature" and "From the People"
Wut again. I could tell you to lurk more but since the previous board was nuked from orbit we will have to settle on the fact that you're a pure newfag.
>more Guenon apologetics
Just stop.
>some idiot here talked about Homer learning XYZ from Scandinavians, wich is not
There are whole geographical references in his works that contradict the reality of the Mediterranean locations that the stories are supposedly happening at, but totally fit the Scandinavian and Baltic areas.
>Guenon and Evola are like the Snakes of the Caduceus
And you're probably the central stick that gets shoved into one faggot's ass.

>>425
Which is slightly circular because we wouldn't concern ourselves with non-White peoples. The preservation of the many White cultures is a necessity. The global White race is a baseline. We can all go 1488 and add our cultural layers on top of this core, just like an Android phone that runs with a user interface that is unique to the manufacturer.

>>452
Are you aware of the numerous and massive brown invasions Europe had to face over the last twenty five centuries which had nothing to do with the ZOG? While it is true that other races and cultures have for some of them shown signs of original creative potential, most of it pales in light of what we did.
Don't forget that you judge Japan from the perspective of the totally neutralized, weak, poisoned and desiccated state of the White nations today. Nevertheless, the best of the Japanese definitely are honorary Aryans in spirit and cleverness, and which reminds me that we should revive our local Japan thread.
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>Ethnocontinents would be a far more realistic and attainable goal.
Yes and no. I can see one or two ethnocontinents, but for fuck's sake, niggers, chinks, slimes, pajeets and tacos are simply was too many. Even nips are super cramped on their islands.
A forced population reduction is obligatory and we need to crank it up so as to lower their overall numbers waaaay below the billion mark. Even hundreds of millions would quickly snowball back into billions. Which means, if we're going to bring them to 2 or 3% of their current demographics, why not finish them off entirely, when we would have already removed more than 90% of their respective populations already?
Honest question there.
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>>452
You didn't address any sort of problem with ethnoglobe, on 16chan, and you were thoroughly blown out.
One of your arguments is that you personally have a weak heart, that for you to feel good about yourself that you must allow racial enemies to exist because you feel kinship with them, misguided kinship to be honest, and that you feel we somehow need them to compete and become stronger, another is that racial lessers will get more ferocious when backed into a corner, and the third is an unfounded worry about complacence which is only possible in a world in which there is no war, which is not possible, yet simultaneously after the lesser races have been exterminated, with a lesser but related argument that our competition being only ourselves will not somehow drive us to higher grounds than continuing to allow racial lessers to exist.
Your personal feelings do not enter into the equation of what is neccessary to ensure our race's survival into perpetuity and so that argument can be ignored.
Your argument about diminishing returns is ultimately pointless, every war that we have fought against guerrilla forces we have essentailly handcuffed ourselves with rules of war and engagement, and in the instance of Vietnam, we actually won, had broken the Vietcong militarily, but support back home fell out from under the troops, a problem you don't have in a war of extermination from the outset, you do not give your enemy any ground to flee to, and if they retreat into caves like the Mujahideen have always done, you either preempt them and cut off access and if they are already inside, just find every point of entry into that cave system and block it off with explosives after setting timed chemical weapons deep enough in to be safe from the explosives and go from there, sure they may get more and more desperate but we can easily avoid any desperate tactics they may use, if not outright defeat them despite those tactics use.
Your argument about complacency is also pointless, in a world with only Aryans, we are competing against other racial subgroups of the greater Aryan race and whoever wins is the more fit to survive, the existence of the lessers has not made us better, at all, we have not often competed with them dorectly and almost all of our innovation has been done when in conflict within our race, at best you could use this as an argument to keep a preserve of enemies alive on whom to test weapons, not as an argument against ethnoglobe, it is an argument which has no merit in this matter based on the evidence of history alone.
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>There is nothing wrong with usury you just don't understand time preference. 
Found the lolberg parasite jew. Get the fuck out of here inbred faggot. National Socialism is about what is good for the folk/race and usury is the WORST thing in that regard. This Left-Right shit is irrelevant. All that matters is whether something is good or bad for the White race. Capitalism/Communism are two sides of the same jew coin, both are inversions of the natural order.
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have the other side then, i'll throw my leg in there too, sorry about the body hair im not a metrosexual i only shave my face, i train on a daily basis and that means getting out and running, thus being hit by the sun (sun hits fucking hard here), if you think that's shitskin tone then there's one (or multiple of the following):
A) you've never been touched by the sun in your entire life, and you don't know what a natural suntan is
B) you've never been to the mediterranean and don't know how Greeks/Italians/Spaniards/South-French etc... look like (but then again i assume everyone's a nordicist now so the only "Whites" here are Anglo-saxons and Germans)
C)You are just purposefully throwing bullshit, if i was a pale corpse you'd say im jewish it is easier for you to just claim im a shitskin and go on with your day, because confronting oposition is hard, but being dishonest is free

>>466
>Whites could go extinct that soon
im not talking about race or politics little man, when i said "Dead Men Walking" im talking about YOU, you and your political larp, you and the eternally spiritually blind, you as in the one who is reading this right now, You as in the "Persona" that you lack, and the Individual that you Are, stop hiding behind the façade of numbers and the collective
>Lines of pure blah
>Says while writing a "Response" that's literally just a few one liners and personal attacks thrown in a condescending tone in a vague attempt to exert authority, all done behind a computer screen in the complete safety that no consequence will ever have to be faced for one's actions
>inb4 criticism is played off as "Internet Tough guy talk"
>Newfag lurk moar
this post (>>167) is literally advocating for "Natural Law" wich is what i just pointed out in my previous post, there's plenty of examples, also National Socialism as a doctrine takes the stance that power is Derived from the People/Race, not from any divine prerogative, even in this very thread (check >>484) the talk about Race and People, and the emphasis on Doing this By and For the People is there, the entire Ideology is built upon this concept, and advanced (and much more complex) version  of XIXth century Nationalisms

i've been here before, not a lot of time mind you because the moment i lurked the "Aryan religions" thread that was before the crash all i saw was meme Cosmotheism and overall New-Age shit/Nordic mithology taken at face value with any sort of actual substance to it beyond aesthetics (also the guy who kept talking about Islam as an Aryan religion, ironic that you yell at me for Guenonposting but then this guy got his own thread and all), nevermind the overall Spiritual Atheism going on i just vaulted out of here, for the record, Gaslighting is not a genuine argument

>Geographical references
Homer's stories, just like all Esoteric tales are allegorical, you are getting caught up in the Style and not the Substance, Agartha/Agarthi, Hyperborea, and all their tales, including the Cycle of the Grail and Monsalvaat are allegorical tales, alluding to higher truths, in the same way that Symbols are the condensation of Transcendental Wisdom

now go, keep showing me who you truly are
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>>486
Holy shit can you stop doxxing yourself? You know how 4cuck found Shia LaBeouf after the original phase of camera-on-wall? If 4cuck can find obscure places on Earth with little info, you better think twice before posting irl pictures of yourself. I mean, on the off chance that you ARE a shitskin, you're legitimately giving away your position to the people (who frequent this board) who would want to get rid of you by bullet. 

And no, you won't be deported. Whites are getting tired of that. There needs to be SOLUTIONS.
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>>321
>it is natural for a state to base the worth of it's citizen by giving them more control and reward for their hard-work
If you think value comes from labor then that is labor theory of value.

>The stock market is still shit and one of the primary reasons why jews control our economies.
The stock market as it exists now is broken because it is based on fiat money which is routinely debased by the government to bail out corporations. The same debasement also forces institutional investors to gamble money in stocks instead of lose it to inflation which has a big destabilizing effect (shit gets investment when it shouldn't then they cry for more bailouts).

>The entire history of usury is explotation.
Money now is worth more than money tomorrow. If someone is giving you money today in exchange for money tomorrow then the money tomorrow needs to be higher than the money today to make it worth his while.

>Good thing we aren't right or left wing.
The penny will drop eventually.

>>327
>read a book and stfu
If you have read these books and have zero arguments to help you here then clearly those books were a waste of time.
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>>486
>please I beg of you, look at more pictures of me
Did I hit a nerve?
> literally advocating for "Natural Law" which is what i just pointed out in my previous post, there's plenty of examples, also National Socialism as a doctrine takes the stance that power is Derived from the People/Race, not from any divine prerogative
The National Socialist ontological order was God>Nature>Race.
The divine element was not absent. The people were used for a channeling.
> the guy who kept talking about Islam as an Aryan religion
> this guy got his own thread and all
The thread with the OP featuring the synthwave jihadists picture, one of whom had a rocket launcher? That thread was barely used. He was quite derided. People advocating for a literal White sharia are not taken seriously until it's argued that the excesses due to the nature of the people the book was intended for are so absurd that they must be avoided, which then allows for a wiser dialogue about the need for strong values, social and spiritual. Few on /fascist/ think that atheism is a good solution.
On the same hand, Islam must be acknowledged as being assuredly virile and war-oriented if taken honestly and literally. Some ideas are far from being stupid but it's the overall delivery medium that sucks. Also, it's still an Abrahamism.
>Homer's stories, just like all Esoteric tales are allegorical, you are getting caught up in the Style and not the Substance
Good tales must actually have both.
The geographical mistakes are also very conspicuous but they make faggademics and dubious meds nervous because they share a latent hatred of anything Nordic. Having to admit that Homer worked from a collage of ancient tales and took some artistic liberty also hurts the purists who want to keep his works a prestigious pure product of Mediterranean culture.
It is all so tiresome.
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>>494
>death threats
i've got nothing to hide and no place (or desire) to run (doesn't mean im gonna give my adress away at the first chance, but i honestly don't give a shit if you track me down), i advocated for misanthropic global genocide (perpetrated by me) in my very first post here, i am not afraid of the consequences of my actions, much less do i care about what others think, most of the time i antagonize everyone around me anyways, im not worried
>WE NEED SOLUTIONS
yes, solutions by sitting on your ass and arguing on the fucking internets and then either:
A) Form a politcal LARP that will never get anywhere, or B) do a meme shooting, write a manifesto and give an excuse to enforce gun laws and take down places like this one
if you are so worried about doxxing and someone putting a bullet through my skull then just do it yourself (inb4 fedposting)
it'll be more interesting than seeing you namecalling and making some vague appeals to authority
>Whites are getting tired of that
getting tired of what? i don't see "whites" around me getting tired of shit, i see them willingly gulping down the propaganda
living meaningless empty lives of wageslavery and fast food-tier entertainment while they parrot the talking points of the Archons
"whites" are at this point, behaving in the exact same way as they do in the book "Le camp des Saints" where the Soldiers would lose their heads and throw themselves into the fire because they'd rather die than be regarded as "Racist", where the President would lose his shit because he didn't want to be called a "Racist" by ordering the Troops to shoot upon the Pahjeet hordes at the beaches

if i want to get myself killed i have a better chance by picking up a fight with niggers in my nearest city/capital than posting my full adress on some Natsoc/Fascist board of LARPers, but to be honest, that's a Bitch way to go, i'd rather hit up a gas station, grab a bunch of Gas cans and Self-Immolate in the highest Mountain i could Climb like some Unhinged Badass Tao
>>498
>Did I hit a nerve?
you acuse me of being a shitskin, i refute that by posting pictures that prove im not a shitskin, you complained i only showed a part of my body, i expanded by posting a few more pictures showing more so as to asess the fact that im not a shitskin, wich you still think i am, and as i said before, i think i could be the palest corpse around, that you'd still make up some excuse to call me a shitskin/CIA Glowie/Fed/Jew/Whatever

you threw slander, i provided a defence, cognitive dissonance is your problem, not mine, but as i said before, you're not concerned
with a conversation, you are concerned with trying to deligitimize me as much as possible so that way you dont need to actually read my post and see what my points are, you like everyone here don't care about truth, or honesty, or being anything ever
its about Party, and Party Politics, Existance itself is valuated in so much as it keeps in line with the Party Points, the Party comes before Life, Aesthetics comes before Substance, Becoming, comes before Being, this is you, this is /fascist/ its about forming a Collective to Validate eachother and Fill the Existential Void that's within all Hylic-Pasu, and the fact that you keep speaking in a condescending tone, appeal to authority, and outright refuse to engage any of the points being made beyond "huh wut? dude lul please stop" and trying to scrounge up for any sort of emotional reaction from me that only really exists in your head

as i said some time ago  
>im only writting this one because its as good time as any to write down and talk to myself through posts
me posting here is little more than a self-excersise of just getting out there, talking to other people and confirming most of what i think when im alone, the entire reason i came to this thread, was to check if my thought of this Board being fucking delusional all that time ago was real, or just something i had exxagerated in my mind (and i wasn't wrong)

>God>Nature>Race.
yes an Hitler was alledgedly a christian to some extent etc... externalized religion in a aesthetical sense and using it as a social tool is not Spirituality, much less actual Ontology, just because you talk about God doesn't mean you either care about it or actually know about it, its a Quasi religionism based on Sentiment and an abstract "Faith", God is not actually relevant, when it is, its in a purely moralistic sense, nevermind the ideas of "Man as Beast" and other retardation that somehow treat God, Man, and Existance itself as some sort of Isolated constructs, read "Heathen Imperialism" by Evola to get a better idea as to why putting "God" into things doesn't mean you are actually spiritual

long story short, Religionism and Moralistic prayer (on one hand) and Aesthetical Religionism wich is little more than a social tool (like the fags talking about wich religions were better and shopping for gods, or like the idiots who were pushing for Cosmotheism because it was ideosyncratic or some shit, not actually caring about what the Ideas therein are, just, like i said before, looking for what is it that benefits the Party Poltitics) is not Spirituality, its about Metaphysics, about Knowledge before Faith, Being above Becoming, its ultimately, about Trascendence

>Good tales must actually have both
this is literally your made up standard, the relevance of Homer's tales comes from their Trascendental Wisdom,
 there's a reason why, in the Esoteric teachings of different Countries-Races(although they all originate with aryans, but for example Mudslimes had Sufism, and Spics had Quetzacoatl who was a Sun-God of aryan Origin)-Peoples and the like seem to be "Idosyncratic" and have "Similarities' it is because they all come from the same Primordial Truths, Truths of a Divine Nature, the Eddas, the Illiad, Pali Buddhism, Zen, Sufism, Gnosticism, Hermetism, the Tao, you name it, they are all expressions of earlier traditions, wich in turn were expressions of Eternal Truths, the word Esotericism means "Occult knowledge" all of these divine Truths were hidden, in the form of Tales, of Teachings, of Meditations and Symbols

they were hidden because unlike all the Telluric ideologies of "Man" and what mass equalitarianism intends, there's a Hierarchy to Existance, and a Hierarchy to Man, the Man who was divine and distinguished (Aryan) would learn and understand these teachings and become initiated, Aryan Man trascends, and becomes like God (or rather, he remembers he was a God) the rest, the Pasu-Animal are not qualified to archieve those truths, and because of it you have the overall retardation, adscribing petty Nationalisms, giving Materialistic Interpretations or just Aesthetical ones, missing the point and re-purposing these stories to further this or that ideas, the Eternal Teachings stay Safe though, because anyone with true Gnosis within them will always find a way to them, the rest aren't so lucky (although its not luck, its a matter of Pure Ontology)

>The thread with the OP featuring the synthwave jihadists picture, one of whom had a rocket launcher? 
Maybe? i can't remember it was very long ago, i have to take your word for it because i never looked into those posts, so i'll have to assume what you say is true and concede upon it

still >Few on /fascist/ think that atheism is a good solution.
and yet all of /fascist/ is atheist, since they either regard it as a moralistic empty force (Christianty, Aesthetical New Age stuff), or just as a Social Control Measure, wich is what you yourself advocate with the "Need for Strong Values"
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>>495
>If you think people should be rewarded for contributing to society you're a communist.

>Reee not real capitalism!

>You have to tolerate parasitic usury and the destruction of people's saving brought about by inflation, you just have to!

Arguing with you seriously is a waste of time. Go back to cuckhan where you can shill for liberal bullshit.
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>>495
>Money now is worth more than money tomorrow. If someone is giving you money today in exchange for money tomorrow then the money tomorrow needs to be higher than the money today to make it worth his while. 
This allows for the very parasitism we are suffering today. A bunch of inbred jews at the top who do nothing useful whatsoever, hoard money and lend it out at insane interest and use ethnic networking to maintain dominance is economic slavery. All money lending parasites must be expunged from Aryan society. Without fake fiat financial control, jew have no power over anything and they remain the weak pathetic schizo dysgenic fucks that they are. 

The key to our freedom is to create our own folk centered financial system that bars usury completely and ties it's value to labor instead of vapid speculation and manipulated commodities
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>>473
(meant to respond sooner, pardon me)
>You didn't address any sort of problem with ethnoglobe, on 16chan, and you were thoroughly blown out.
you're confusing me with someone else, or your own imagination.

>misguided kinship to be honest
it's not so much kinship, as respect for honorary Aryans and their right to exist as foreign Volks.

>the third is an unfounded worry about complacence which is only possible in a world in which there is no war, which is not possible, yet simultaneously after the lesser races have been exterminated, with a lesser but related argument that our competition being only ourselves will not somehow drive us to higher grounds than continuing to allow racial lessers to exist.
This may seem contradictory, but it really isn't. I should've clarified better. There is always conflict in life regardless. Having different, varied opponents will ultimately make you fitter and better prepared to take on new challenges. It's because other races are different than us that they make good sparring partners, they may challenge us in a way that our fellow Whites would not. Likewise, without Jews, we may forget the danger of human parasites, which is why the warnings/lessons must be passed down in perpetuity -- because Jews are too dangerous to have around as sparring partners or as a sort of vaccine, they're too virulent. But the other races are not like that.

>Your personal feelings do not enter into the equation of what is neccessary to ensure our race's survival into perpetuity and so that argument can be ignored.
that's true, but I think ethnoglobe is extreme and unnecessary, and may not be desirable.

>Your argument about complacency is also pointless, in a world with only Aryans, we are competing against other racial subgroups of the greater Aryan race and whoever wins is the more fit to survive, the existence of the lessers has not made us better, at all,
That's a key disagreement we have. As I said, different races have different qualities, so keeping others around will keep us fit, and force us to address blind spots that would be shared by fellow Aryans. Again, other races should be safe to have around, as long as the JQ is dealt with.

>>466
>Are you aware of the numerous and massive brown invasions Europe had to face over the last twenty five centuries which had nothing to do with the ZOG?
I'm well aware, and I think we should be in a position of strength. However, ensuring our survival and dominance does not require total genocide IMO.
>While it is true that other races and cultures have for some of them shown signs of original creative potential, most of it pales in light of what we did.
it depends, really. the darker races have occasional sparks, while Japanese and Persians show something more, they're not quite us, but they're not far off either.

>Don't forget that you judge Japan from the perspective of the totally neutralized, weak, poisoned and desiccated state of the White nations today.
That's true. I've been accused of being weeb before, but it's not out of racial disloyalty. I think I've gravitated towards that culture simply because it's less pozzed than the West. It's probably the same reason why other blackshirts have delved into Islam, despite its incompatibilities with our Volk.

>but for fuck's sake, niggers, chinks, slimes, pajeets and tacos are simply was too many.
We can have population control without total extermination. In the case of Africa, things like AIDS, Ebola, tsetse flies & sleeping sickness, poverty, war, etc are useful for controlling their numbers. Not to go too far off on a tangent, but disease may in fact be an enforcement mechanism of Natural Law.

>A forced population reduction is obligatory
That much we can agree on.

>Which means, if we're going to bring them to 2 or 3% of their current demographics, why not finish them off entirely, when we would have already removed more than 90% of their respective populations already?
Honest question there.
As I said to the other anon, giving them reservations will help keep us fit, kind of like how exposing your immune system to non-fatal pathogens makes you more resistant. It's only lethal pathogens you need to avoid entirely, except in killed/weakened form (eg Polio, Jews, etc).
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>>502
>this is you, this is /fascist/ its about forming a Collective to Validate eachother and Fill the Existential Void
Yeah ... AND?
>and yet all of /fascist/ is atheist
Do you actually know what atheism means?
"atheism, in general, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings." as definded here https://www.britannica.com/topic/atheism
To be atheistic you have to be actually OPPOSED to theism, meaning you have to DENY it.
Hope I am getting through to you here.
Which means, that it DOES NOT MATTER if anyone "regards it as a moralistic force" as long as they do not DENY it.
Understood?
So that being said your claim is absolute bullshit and you can thank me for having corrected you.
Also you should stop reading things into what other people are saying. That is not becoming.
>>509
>you're confusing me with someone else, or your own imagination.
Nope argued with several just like you, and I recognize your typing style, it is possible I didn't argue with you specifically about ethnoglobe.
>it's not so much kinship, as respect for honorary Aryans and their right to exist as foreign Volks.
You exemplify the problem with the White race excellently here, You give respect to a Folk that does not give it to yours, you can rationalize this any way you like but this is exactly the reason why all of our racial enemies MUST be exterminated.
>This may seem contradictory, but it really isn't. I should've clarified better. There is always conflict in life regardless. Having different, varied opponents will ultimately make you fitter and better prepared to take on new challenges. It's because other races are different than us that they make good sparring partners, they may challenge us in a way that our fellow Whites would not. 
You weren't unclear, I would agree if that had ever been the case, but as I said most of our advancement has been from war between members of the Aryan Race, not from conflict with enemies outside our race.
>Likewise, without Jews, we may forget the danger of human parasites, which is why the warnings/lessons must be passed down in perpetuity -- because Jews are too dangerous to have around as sparring partners or as a sort of vaccine, they're too virulent. But the other races are not like that.
The other races serve no purpose either, even the one you try to provide doesn't make sense.
And it seems to be nature's will that a parasite exists, even if we exterminate every last drop of jewish blood on the planet there will, eventually, be a new parasite.
>that's true, but I think ethnoglobe is extreme and unnecessary, and may not be desirable.
Again what you feel doesn't matter, it is the only actual solution.
>As I said, different races have different qualities, so keeping others around will keep us fit, and force us to address blind spots that would be shared by fellow Aryans. 
If there is no external threeat what would we have to address these blind spots for? Setting aside that you have no evidence all Aryans types would share these blind spots, and even less that our racial enemies would aid us in closing them. The other races are no safer to have around than the jew, them living in every single one of our countries, alone proves that.
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Kek the ethnoglobe larp will continue 'til the world's end. Faggots that haven't killed a single human being arguing for the total elimination of billions of people. Peak derangement. Look forward to coming back here in three years and seeing the same arguments still going around in circles.
>>30
>i also think many fascists view religion from the completely wrong perspective. instead of asking "is this religion true or not?" they ask "how can this religion benefit us?"
this is so true, i have thought this many times myself.
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>>420
age of consent is a meme, throughout history people have been raping cunny for years upon years, now all of a sudden le cunny bad! need to fuck chads sloppy seconds whilst she fucks niggers behind your back or even infront of you if you are into it.
AOC should be lowered to 12 tbh lad
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>>519
>You exemplify the problem with the White race excellently here, You give respect to a Folk that does not give it to yours, you can rationalize this any way you like but this is exactly the reason why all of our racial enemies MUST be exterminated.
You say this, yet Japan was an Axis power. Other races would respect us more if we were not so parasitized & pozzed. It's only because of Jews that they're used as golems against us; without golem conditioning, we would be able to normalize our relations.

>You weren't unclear, I would agree if that had ever been the case, but as I said most of our advancement has been from war between members of the Aryan Race, not from conflict with enemies outside our race.
Europe battled for centuries with the Caliphates & Ottoman Empire, and those challenges spurred our ancestors into building colonial empires and ruling much of the world, before Jews and race-mixing brought it all crashing down.

>And it seems to be nature's will that a parasite exists, even if we exterminate every last drop of jewish blood on the planet there will, eventually, be a new parasite.
yes, that's why we must educate all future generations about the Jew, even after he's defeated. By the same logic, another race may differentiate and emerge from ethnoglobe, leaving us ill-equipped to deal with that challenge. Other races are not so dangerous as Jews, so it's better that we let them live, so they can spur us into fitness. Running with the vaccine analogy, there may be some way to guard against Jews while not letting them return to power, analogous to a non-infectious virus sample giving you immunity (I haven't fully thought it out). At the same time, you only need vaccines for deadly diseases, for most other pathogens, it's better to develop natural immunity, this is analogous to sharing the world with other races.

>The other races serve no purpose either, even the one you try to provide doesn't make sense.
Not all life is unworthy of life, just certain types.

>Setting aside that you have no evidence all Aryans types would share these blind spots
It's because we all share certain racial qualities.

>even less that our racial enemies would aid us in closing them.
The challenge of their mere presence would achieve this.

>The other races are no safer to have around than the jew, them living in every single one of our countries, alone proves that.
Not so. As I said, they're only invading us because they're being used as golems. Extract the parasite, break the conditioning, and they'll be manageable.
Someone ban the shitskin (the previous post above me). 
>>527
Ban this one too. Sick freak.
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>>534
Both you and he are on a Tor node, until Sturgeon fixes the issue, my ban will do nothing but block all Tor posters from posting on the board. As I am unwilling to do that short of a spam attack from Tor, if you think he is wrong, explain exactly how he is wrong, as it is the purpose of this thread. If you think he has broken a rule report him, then I will deal with it as I see fit. As it is, I do not think he is entirely wrong, Hitler himself advocated for more youthful marriage within Mein Kampf, and despite having every power with which to do so, did not change the Age Of Consent to Marry during his reign over Germany, which was 14 before, since the 1860's or 80's I think, and 14 during and after, until quite recently actually, when they raised the age to marry higher but left consent for sex at 14, with extra conditions. I stand with Hitler on this point.
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>>506
>Arguing with you seriously is a waste of time. Go back to cuckhan where you can shill for liberal bullshit.
You didn't make an argument though. This is you giving up.

>>507
>A bunch of inbred jews at the top who do nothing useful whatsoever, hoard money and lend it out at insane interest and use ethnic networking to maintain dominance is economic slavery.
If the loans are not useful then don't buy them.

>Without fake fiat financial control...
Fiat money and usury are completely different things. I agree with gassing the central bankers, I don't care what race they are.

>The key to our freedom is to create our own folk centered financial system
And how is this not simply creating a new ruling class? The problem is the system, not who controls it.

>ties it's value to labor
Value does not come from labor. You have to stop with this marxist bullshit.

>instead of vapid speculation and manipulated commodities
Do you actually think these are the only 2 options?
>>541
BO, if you can't ban the guy, at least delete the post. Have you ever seen the term "c*nny" used to denote anything besides physically immature girls? He's being a degenerate. Don't encourage it.

Aristotle was right in saying that the ideal age for a man and woman to marry is 30 and 18 respectively. Tacitus observes the same practice in his work Germina among the ancient germanic tribes, with both men and women being late to marry relative to the Romans and Barbarians. Child marriage is exclusively used by non-whites or decaying societies to control their feminine men in the same way a burka does. What is really needed is a society full of strong, virtuous, aryan men (these all go hand and hand) who are naturally opposed to the taking advantage of young women. With responsible fathers and future husbands, the behavior of women will fall into line, as it is determined by the leading men of society.
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>>557
I don't see how it breaks the rules, and it isn't against the topic of the thread, if he devolves into pedophilia I will ban and delete his posts, but Ephebophilia is not a problem.

There is modern scientific research that suggests Aristotle was wrong on that front, the younger a woman is with her husband the higher the possibility of successful pair-bonding, and that more youthful marriages tend to last longer, essentially forever, It should be noted that Aristotle was Athenian, and that City-states women were never allowed out of the home outside the company of men, under penalty of death, except for whores who had a designated area where they could peddle themselves, and no further.
Tacitus's Germania is untrustworthy, people honestly give it way too much credit, there is much to suggest he wasn't depicting the Germanic people as they truly were, but was writing a critique of Rome, which was reaching the ass end of it's decline while he lived, based on his idealized vision of Rome as it was, and possibly creating a completely invented Germanic society against which to compare it, it should be taken with a nice pile of salt across the board.
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>>558
> I will ban and delete his posts, but Ephebophilia is not a problem.
Since when has "c*nny" EVER been used to refer to that? Regardless of how you feel about the subject, pedophilia is disgusting and the post is a bad look for /fascist/. We shouldn't be allowing posters to write abhorrent stuff.
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>>566
It has been used for that on /fascist/ before, and as BO, I don't really care what anyone thinks of the place, we encourage higher quality discussion, and the supposed offputting aura of that post is what this thread is specifically for, discussions about any range of taboo subjects, and other unpopular opinions, and that is abundantly clear to anyone who we actually wish to have discussions here on /fascist/, If that drives away and repulses morons and Puritanical Moralists, that is fine by me, they're boring anyway.
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>>570
What have these unpopular opinion threads been from their creation but a cesspool of retarded opinions. There is a clear different between "Puritanical" (Judiac) moralism and the common decency of the white man. Could you ever imagine Hitler taking about stuff like that in the tone that poster did? He would be disgusted by it. If you want high quality discussion to be encouraged, you should start by deleting this thread and encouraging people to speak with dignity.
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>>581
Containment for more disruptive discussion is this threads main purpose and it works, it also often elicits more meaningful conversation than I expected when FashBO first posted it.
That post being a perfect example of disruptive shit nobody wants in other threads. I am not deleting anything that does not break the rules either globally or of this board, and I will ban the next nigger dumb enough to question my decision.
 If you don't like what someone says in this thread either ignore it, or argue their point, no matter how distasteful you might find it or their presentation, and let the ideas beneath be laid bare and examined, so that we may discard it or use it to improve ourselves.
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>>566
>pedophilia is disgusting and the post is a bad look for /fascist/
The only bad look is you getting mad and deleting stuff because you ran out of arguments. Pedophilia is like philosophy 101 and you guys are too braindamaged to even get that right. lol fascism

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST Degeneracy

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>>596
FashBO never put up with this degeneracy. Back when we were on 16chan, he deleted posts that tried to glorify child marriage. Uh oh, I guess my standing up for aryan values makes me a "dumb nigger". Ban me.
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>>598
FashBO actively engaged in the discussion had on anon.cafe about marriage and Age of Consent to Marry, and on 16 as well, the shit he deleted on anon,cafe was pushed on him by the Administration staff, he was engaging in the discussion himself and didn't agree with the decision, but abided by it to keep the Globals away from his board. He opened the discussion on 16 as well and set the rules the Admins there had once they became clear, which was anything short of encouraging outright pedophilia and prepubescent marriage, is fine to discuss.
 You haven't read any of the previous threads whether this thread or the Woman Question threads(where these discussions were had), and have outed yourself as a newfag.
>>597
Idk what the fuck you're talking about but bye.
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>>599
>Idk what the fuck you're talking about but bye.
Oh no did someone get their feelings hurt?
>>252
>I remember when we could have comfy, redpilled discussion on architecture, technology, media, and ACTUAL FASCIST THEORY
You were warned.

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>>410
>renegade apolitical nonsense
This is the best /fascist/ will get.
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>You wouldn't have looked any less credible actually providing the channel, and I found it myself, completely unnecessary 
Then why did you ask for the channel? Also, you're lying, you assumed it is a vid made from a q-nigger, because I licked the shorter vid over the full analysis from Jewtube.

>I need no more than that to completely disregard your entire argument as not only are you buying into enemy propaganda quite literally published before the Soviet union fell.
I've already established that his mathematical theory does not consist of Soviet Propaganda. His autism lies in the fact believed the Tartars and Mongols were Russians. And that Moscow is the real Rome. But this is own personal interpretations, he doesn't include these ideas into the chronologies he criticizes.

>There is no evidence for the "history" you're shilling
I and the vid gave several pieces of evidence of medieval scholars themselves who have challenged the idea that Rome, Jesus, and the Ancient Greeks are constructs of Italian imperialist with goals of validating their control on the Western mind and plans to take desire territory that they have never conquered.

>are statistical models that Anatoly made, one large flaw in his thesis is that Statistics and History do not mesh.
You still haven't explained why something as simple as statistics cannot be used to sort out historical inconsistencies and lies. If anything you're butt-hurt, because it potentially denies your LARP as illogical, inconsistent, and far-fetch which history itself, which is a gathering of information (something statistics are literally modelled around) to come to conclusions on what occured in past events. Even though Germanic is already great in itself, but you need your imperium that consisted of mutts and corrupt aristocracy, which has been this way since the Roman Kingdom. And I thought I was supposed to be the schizo. 

>unintelligible ramblings on a topic he doesn't understand
Why even respond? The fact you admitted that you don't understand what statistics are, drops you out of any arguments you have as invalid. Statistics applicable to most things and even if they are wrong, they do tend to be correct in its conclusions to a degree. If you cannot prove this to be wrong or don't know how to, then you should of just not had responded to my first post.

>The only one deluding themselves here is you, you watch a video by a fucking retard, on a book written by a french guy
1. Nice genetic fallacy 
2. Thanks for confirming once again that you have zero knowledge on the subject other than "guy is french". 

>my claims are based on work done by National Socialists, and historians from farther back than the majority of the poz of today.
No they aren't. Your claims are your own dumb interpretations. The NSDAP never claimed the Greeks wuz Nordics n shiet. The NSDAP also never claimed other cultures as their own and allowed other Aryans to converse their own. The Mein Kampf talks about the importance of preservation of true self and culture and you fail to understand the meaning.

>Again you're claiming I'm doing something I haven't done even once. 
<THE GREEKS AND ROMANZ WUZ NORDICS, SO DAT MEANS THE LIE THEY INVENTED EUROPE IS TRUZ
<ITS TRUE THE GERMANS LIVED IN MUDHUTS, BUT DATZ OKAY, BECAUSE THE GREEKS WERE GERMANS TOO!
This is literally what you're encouraging here within your previous posts, stupid. 

>No, it's a weird point oif obsession for christniggers because they think it validates them and invalidates "dirty pagays" nothing more than that
That's because it does, nigger. One of the greatest lie in history is the narrative that the Christians so easily conquered and converted Rome, and that it is the Christian churches that are the continuation of the Roman spirit which supposedly dominated and subdued the minds of the White man out of "degeneracy" through conquest and wisdom. It validates the idea that pagan empires are doomed to fall to hedonism without having the faith of the jews as your salvation.

>Nigger you can't even see my point, or you would have realized it is a direct refutation of yours.
You didn't make a point. You just went on autistic ramblings about how I'm wrong, because the "facts" have to be true. You did it again within this post as well lol.

>You're convinced all of ancient history is made up, because a Soviet Mathematian
Genetic fallacy, and your deliberate refusal to comprehend his criticisms.

>Not only is that not the claim, it's not even the point. You can't even address my argument
I addressed all of your stupid arguments. To say I didn't means you refuse to read what I said and understand where I'm coming from. Like a literal nigger.

>The fact is that Unlike th Negros We actually were these people, some returned home, continuing their lines in Scandinavia, Germany, and elsewhere some devolved into the Southern italians of today.
More claims, more we wuzzing, without any evidence to back it up.

>Anon, Mathematics is a fine tool, when it's used appropriately, here all he could use it for was to note the similarity in the pattern of events, he established no such link in the events themselves 
Again, you're making declarations with no knowledge of the topic we're discussing. You couldn't make it any more clear you're brown by dismissing math as something unreliable in sorting out inconsistency, because "durr you can't use a modeling tool on a subject related to gathering information".

>He was taught by the Soviets
Whining about Fomenko being a resident of something he never asked for is a fault in reasoning and has no creditability against him for why he is wrong. He was not advocating nor shilling Sovietism. His personal beliefs actually would of gotten him arrested for being nationalistic.

>he just doesn't understand
Not an argument.

>More genetic fallacy
Have you tried not being stupid?

>The NSDAP actually changed a lot of the education system
Pilpul, and has nothing to do with what is being said. They also did not change too much in what garbage was taught in the Empire. The NS did not change the curriculum entirely. 

>I watched more than half of it, 
So you're too stupid dumb to construct a intelligent and reasonable counter-argument outside of far-fetch claims?

>It's bullshit, just because I think so
>You're behaving like a jew
Funny, because Jews behave exactly how you do whenever their perspectives of the world and institutions are challenged. Nowhere have I acted like the jooz. 

>Patterns repeat, everywhere
That's not the point. NOTHING IN NATURE IS TOTALLY STATIC

>Golden ratio
This is a mathematical measurement used to discover a common pattern amongst composites or anything that is made of matter. What your niggermutt brain fail to process is that this has no relation to how the process of time or occurrences throughout history happen. Objects that have the divine proportion are not all of the same construct.

This just ends and proves my case that you are not White.
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>Then why did you ask for the channel?
I didn't, I asked why you wouldn't have provided that instead, then said, I found it myself, both videos are of the same length so you have no excuse for not providing it, whatsoever.
>I've already established that his mathematical theory does not consist of Soviet Propaganda.
You have established no such thing, the work all of that is based on was first published in Russia, under the Soviet leadership, which throws it into question from the word go.
>I and the vid gave several pieces of evidence,
And I reasoned out quite clearly how that was bullshit, and provided easily verifiable information to that effect. Jesus is a construct of the jews, not the Italians, created to destroy Rome and later adapted more broadly for the Aryan race as a Whole. Rome has physical evidence in preponderance for it's existence at the time Modern history says it existed, sure they warp and bastardize the real truth of it all, but they must be congruent with the truth in some way, to tell the lies that they do, and Rome, again was a Germanic race, for it's ruling populace, and until some time after the second Punic war it's citizen class was also of the Germanic race, however much that may be denied today, sure they had slaves, but the majority of those slaves were Germanic races quite similar to them for much of their history..
>You still haven't explained why something as simple as statistics cannot be used to sort out historical inconsistencies and lies.
I said that History and statistics do not mesh, to be specific and in large part they do not, I did not say that History doesn't use statistics, nor did I say it doesn't have a use in Historical research. Perhaps I should have been clearer, and more detailed, statistics has applications in historical research, usually very simple statistics, but it is not, in most cases, based on evidence that can be used in statistical models whatsoever. Furthermore, the way Fomenko uses it, is not an appropriate, or even logical, use of the tool, it is evident to other statisticians that he fudged data to have a better then random chance of getting EXACTLY the result he wanted. Within his New Chronology, he flip-flops all over the place so much that it isn't possible for others to reconstruct his methods, making his work essentially an ad-hoc hypothesis. He outright ignores any data that doesn't fit his theory or contradicts it, from Dendrochronology and Radio-carbon dating to fucking Astronomical Dating using recorded Astronomical events which can accurately date events to within 10 minutes as far back as 400 BCE and his dating of events in his alte rnate chronology is so fucking bad that his theory falls apart just based on what we know of the figure that he claims was the real Jesus(who didn't exist at any rate), Pope Gregory the VII, Who lived 27 years longer than Jesus is supposed to have lived, and could not have done things the Bible says Jesus did, like meet the "real" John the Baptist, John Crescentius, who was dead eight years before Gregory was even born, not only is this shit blatantly ahistorical, it's not even coherent, It fits neatly within and even has recently been used, or recommended for use by Russian Politicians, to fulfill the goals of Eurasianism with a bent of Russian Imperialism, aka Duginism, as it is known today, and not surprisingly this shit seems to have spawned the other inchoherent, and completely useless, Tartaria theory.
I never denied that the accomplishments of the Germanic peoples are already great, even devoid of our other accomplishments, such as the Foundation of Greece Rome, Egypt, Ancient Aryan India, every single Western/Northern European Nation as they stand today, and a good portion of the eastern ones as well, such as Russia, literally founded by the Kievan Rus, a tribe of Viking Settlers who came to dominance over what is now Ukraine and much of Russia. I don't need Rome or Greece to do shit or prove shit. I am simply stating the facts as they are. It has been a pattern throughout history, that our race conquers or even just settles a region, rises to dominance over greater and greater territory and then, as all things do, eventually decay, usually beginning with the corruption of our women, but sometimes due to the mistakes of truly exceptional Individuals such as Alexander of Macedon. You are stating Soviet-lite Ideological tripe, as fact, as if it's useful, at best it would be entertaining, or a waste of time to consider at all, at worst, a trip down a rabbit hole intended to lead us astray.
>Why even respond? The fact you admitted that you don't understand what statistics are, drops you out of any arguments you have as invalid.
Except I didn't say that anywhere, In fact what you quote is me literally pointing out that Fomenko doesn't understand history or historical research methods, at all, if he did, he would know just how fucking accurate the dating systems used today are and they got that way using math, even statistics.
>Thanks for confirming once again that you have zero knowledge on the subject other than "guy is french". 
Thanks for confirming you cannot read and understand English, hardly at all, because that's not what I was saying, nor did I commit a genetic fallacy, that was additional to my actual debunking of the shit you're spewing, which I have now gone over AGAIN in greater detail, I traced the bullshit back to it's source and demonstrated quite clearly how it's bullshit, the fact that it comes out of the mouth of a former soviet, is just icing on the cake.
>No they aren't. Your claims are your own dumb interpretations. The NSDAP never claimed the Greeks wuz Nordics n shiet. The NSDAP also never claimed other cultures as their own and allowed other Aryans to converse their own. The Mein Kampf talks about the importance of preservation of true self and culture and you fail to understand the meaning.
Madison Grant did, and his theories were essential to the formation of the NSDAP's Racial Theories, and Hitler did personally believe that the Romans and Greeks were Nordic men, because he was pissed at Himmler for putting such a focus on our seemingly lacking early and pre-, historical sites, when we had the much more glorious Rome and Greece to put a focus on, he was operating off of less information than we have today, so it's understandable.
My beliefs on this matter also built on the work of William Luther Pierce, Arthur Kemp, and still yet others, including modern, NS, Physical Anthropologists, rare as they are. 
You haven't read Mein Kampf, don't pretend you have, that shit doesn't fly here.
>This is literally what you're encouraging here within your previous posts, stupid. 
I am encouraging neither, as nobody knows the origin of the name, Europe, we know only that it's first still extant use is in a Homeric Hymn to Apollo, exactly as it appears today, whether it's originally Grecian or not is impossible, as yet, to know. I never claimed they invented Europe and the Romans once lived in "mudhuts" too, I have no idea why you would consider that at all shameful, it's a simple fact, we know now that the supposed "mudhuts" were actually far more advanced than they try to convince us they were. 
>That's because it does, nigger.
Except it doesn't, it never holds up once you actually delve in and then it's revealed that Christians terrorized and subverted Rome at every opportunity, over the course of about 300 (400 if you include the beginnings of the Judea vs Rome conflict) years until they got lucky and got a sympathetic emperor who proceeded to make every effort to destroy Rome's Natural Religion along with any other religion they came across, with force, subterfuge, torture, and the same Jewish tactics they had used against Rome previous to that, the only people who still believe the lie are lemmings, who have never mattered, and those whose Christnigger programmed cognitive dissonance is so deeply engrained they cannot overcome it without extreme effort. They warped history to make thing appear the way you describe to a casual reader, but those people are lemmings and so go with what the dominant power wants regardless of it's truth. The truth also invalidates christianity, right down to the existence of it's central figure Yehoshua Bar Josef, for whom zero evidence exists at all.
>You didn't make a point. You just went on autistic ramblings about how I'm wrong, because the "facts" have to be true. You did it again within this post as well lol.
I did, your poor reading comprehension is getting in the way again.
>Genetic fallacy, and your deliberate refusal to comprehend his criticisms.
Nope, statement of fact followed by mockery of you. You are quite literally arguing because you believe in the shit a Soviet mathematican is spewing, and you're not even doing it first-hand but third-hand through a video by a retard, through a a book by a frenchman to Fomenko.
I comprehend his "criticisms" perfectly fine, they're completely worthless, and so incredibly inconsistent with the evidence, it's fucking laughable.
>I addressed all of your stupid arguments. To say I didn't means you refuse to read what I said and understand where I'm coming from. Like a literal nigger.
You did no such thing, because YOU LITERALLY CANNOT COMPREHEND THE ENGLISH I AM USING, and this is beyond obvious at this point.
>without any evidence to back it up.
I TOLD YOU SEVERAL FUCKING TIMES WHERE TO FIND THE EVIDENCE, YOU COMPLETE FUCKING MORON
>Again, you're making declarations with no knowledge of the topic we're discussing.
I have a working knowledge of Discrete Math, and Calculus, and can understand Statistics quite well, but I am no Mathematician nor do I desire to be, I do not deny that math is incredibly useful at all, I said that the way Fomenko is using it in his New Chronology, is improper, and has not actually illuminated any real, concrete, inconsistency, and as I illuminate above is because he manipulated the data he curated for his use, to achieve the result he desired, and used that result to make bullshit up.
Again making shit up to cast me as a nigger, extremely suspicious behavior.
>His personal beliefs actually would of gotten him arrested for being nationalistic.
Whether he chose it or not, the soviets and now russia are our enemies greatest tool for maniopulation as evidenced by current events. No, not in 1986, it just got him mocked for being a retard, and again most recently in 2004.
>Not an argument.
Covered above
>Have you tried not being stupid?
Have you tried actually making an argument? still not genetic fallacy, we know the Soviets were using fucked up education systems the entire time they existed right up to 1989, and this was a huge problem for Germany after the Wall came down.
>Pilpul, and has nothing to do with what is being said.
No what you're doing is pilpul, that is a direct refutation of your claim, and they had to work with what they had, a complete destruction of a still functioning system was not in the cards for Germany at that time, and much of what was being taught wasn't of issue at that time there was no need to change everything immediately.
>So you're too stupid dumb to construct a intelligent and reasonable counter-argument outside of far-fetch claims
You're the retard who first made the claims, I have thoroughly refuted and debunked your entire argument right down to it's central fucking point, and you didn't even make a very good one just a time consuming one to debunk.
>Funny, because Jews behave exactly how you do whenever their perspectives of the world and institutions are challenged. Nowhere have I acted like the jooz. 
It's bullshit because it does not follow the evidence, that I called that out within the first five minutes of watching your stupid fucking video, is an example as to just how ridiculous the claims are, how many fucking times do I have to reiterate that first part for it to get through your thick fucking skull?
You also have no idea how jews act, if you think I have acted like a jew at all.
>That's not the point. NOTHING IN NATURE IS TOTALLY STATIC
Except for, the existence of patterns throughout it, and it's constant forward momentum, what we call time.
>This is a mathematical measurement used to discover a common pattern amongst composites or anything that is made of matter.
Oh really?! I totally didn't know that before! You are a retard.
>What your niggermutt brain fail to process is that this has no relation to how the process of time or occurrences throughout history happen. Objects that have the divine proportion are not all of the same construct.
I never claimed it did, I merely used it as an example of patterns repeating everywhere in nature, how was this not clear? Seriously? How are your english skills this poor as a supposed White man? English is taught in every Western Nation and even many Non-western nations to the point of fluency for most of them, You really have no excuse, you didn't even attempt to address the actual argument here either, a logical demonstration of how Fomenko's patterns are inherently worthless.
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>>524
Asking whether the religion is beneficial to us is actually the right thing to do. We know that many people will be gullible about tales, only a proper elite will know what is true. So it makes sense that we should be concerned about the usefulness of a religion as this brings about the analysis of Christianity for example as a crippling or empowering faith based tool.
Honestly, I couldn't care one bean if a religion were complete hogwash if it proved extremely efficient at furthering 1488 and similar credos.
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>>502
>muh metaphysics
>y'all atheists
Listen newfag, you like to pretend you're a long timer but if you had been with this board since its inception you wouldn't post even a tenth of the stupid statements you continuously make while thinking nobody gave a chance to the books you're selling here, or as if we had never talked about Perennialism before. Stop embarrassing yourself nigger.
>NAZIS' faith was superficial and about optics only
Listen med, you're absolutely lost. You know naught about the inner core of National Socialism and the long term plan for renewed pagan metaphysics. They were not trying to create a country of LARPers fapping before swastikas and yuletide trees.
>Homer and a long tirade on stuff and pancakes
Quit the lecturing. The observation about the geographical inconsistencies of some elements is spot on. Not only places he should have known very well and described adequately are inaccurately described, but they also just conveniently happen to become accurate when displaced to the Baltic area. Get over it. No one is denying anything about the deeepurr meaning here.
>>668
>choosing a religion based on utility
>not choosing a religion based on Truth
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>implying an pragmatic religion and Truth are mutually exclusive.
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>>670
If the religion is efficient at serving our interests, then it IS truth and can only be based on universal truth, because nothing but truth could aptly fit our needs in the grand scheme of things.
But religions are the fruit of men, part fictions, produced according to temporal contingencies. The form they take isn't really the most important point and therefore you wouldn't need to prove that your God Whateverhisnameis could throw thunderbolts and turn himself into a deer or multiply ale with his mind.
>>672
>>implying an pragmatic religion and Truth are mutually exclusive.
Not really. Look at our own ancient religions, good luck proving even a quarter of the tales made up in their respective texts. They're flowery tales and we should not feel obligated to prove them. That's an Abrahamic issue because it doubled down on the realism, from a premise of humane and relatable people pulling magic out of their collective yarmulkes. Simple minded people take things literally, like children.
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I just want to farm and keep livestock in peace
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>>710
fuck off ((( libertarian )))
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There is also a minutes to midnight, but that has certain problem, few of the devs are femboys.
On the other hand the mod doesn't seem half bad.
Should I make a hoi4 thread or is that too much offtopic? How should I make it to not look offtopic?
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>>683
>If the religion is efficient at serving our interests, then it IS truth and can only be based on universal truth, because nothing but truth could aptly fit our needs in the grand scheme of things.
Hypothetical:
A new religion teaches that jews go straight to Heaven and rule over all the gentiles next to God, if said jews commit suicide.
This serves our interest because the jews kill themselves.
Is it true that jews go to Heaven and rule over you?
>>718
jews don't farm, retard
>>781
Err hoi4 is a video game it would be inappropriate/off topic so It shouldn’t have a thread tbh I guess we can talk about it here there’s many things we can talk about do you want to just discuss how the majority of modders for hoi4 are usually trannies and leftist fags or do you want to discuss something else?
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>>1408
The hell is this anon?
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"Third-Positionism" is retarded and merely the act of mixing two politically retarded ideas together in a form of synthesis.
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>>1423
Beyond left and right, not necessarily a combination of left and right
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>>1431
>Beyond left and right
It really isn't beyond left and right. It merely takes what leftists and rightists see on their respective political spectrum and agrees with many of their takes and positions, while rejecting them some of their ideologically affiliated core tenets. It is a syncretic ideology that posits itself as superior, because it promotes and promises the rejection of the totality of communism and anarchism of capitalism for something more "organic". It supposedly is against capitalism and Marxism, but also agrees with aspects of socialist materialism if not entirely (strasserists and nazbols), and the joke that is "right-wing" traditionalism which is just Abrahamic spew that exists to defend and empower religion and Christian theocracies, not the soil and culture of a nation (integralism and Falangism). Third-Positionism was also only heard of after World War 2, but I am not implying that some of its principles did not exist with Mussolini and Gentile. Arguably National Socialism couldn't be called "Third-Position" due to the fact that it centers itself on race and heritage as the upmost important thing within a nation.
White Russians should've won the russian civil war
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>>1485
This isn't unpopular. I think most of us here would agree, despite disagreeing with the liberal views of White Russia.
Anyone here who claims Hitler invaded Poland for Lebensraum should be called out for being a fed or retard, because this is literally the enemy's lie to position the Germans as the unjustified and unruly aggressors. While I do not oppose Lebensraum, I do oppose ((( neo-nazi ))) accepting the jews terms about National Socialism being painted as something the jews regularly lie about.
>>1488
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>>1488
I agree, but this doesn't mean that  Lebensraum did not exist or wouldn't be practiced in urgency to resolve the overpopulation issue within Germany.
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>>1409
>The hell is this anon?
Websites.
>>1495
Their goals were the parts of Poland they lost during WW1. That was all they needed.
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>>1519
Except they aren't enough to solve the problems of overpopulation within Germany. All of Germany's settlements were going to have high fertility rates while under National Socialist occupation, and yes that includes Germans and German cities and towns outside of Magna Germania. Even Mussolini had done so, which is what he did with Libya and Ethiopia, because it was a necessity. Poland and various regions within Eastern Europe are going to be necessary for colonization.
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>>1488 (nice hitler digits)
Oh yeah and you reminded me of my unpopular opinion. I honestly don't like lebensraum. It would've been much more simpler to replace africans imo.
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>>1536
>It would've been much more simpler to replace africans imo.
Explain.
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>>1526
Not only that, the Poles got what was coming to them. They were massacring Germans after obtaining Danzig from the Treaty Of Versailles. I say fuck em for being the niggers of Slavs.
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>>1546
Because they've bassically got no culture and ways to easilly fight back. And theres literally no way to control all of russia. Everything around kongo and central africa would be a good part. Slavs can be reeducated, but niggers no lmao. Also the only reason Hitler hated slavs was because they were commies or poles( (german killers)
>>1551
>Niggers of slavs
Those are czechs. But that can be just me.
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>>1568
There are problems with your proposal:

1. Colonizing Africa would require a thorough extermination of the resident niggers, which would've been costly and difficult, especially if they were covertly armed by ZOG nations. It leads to diminishing returns as they fight back ferociously (since they have no choice but fight or die) and insurgents are notoriously difficult to root out. These are some of the same problems I have with ethnoglobe.
2. Even if you succeed in ethnic cleansing, you're still surrounded by nigger territory, which is a constant liability. Unless of course, you're willing to purge the entire continent, which would multiply the problems above.
3. The African climate & environment is unsuited to Aryans, we do better in cool, northern areas (a recent reading here, Madison Grant's Passing of the Great Race, gets into this).

My unpopular opinion is that Hitler should've accepted Poles & Slavs as White. Communism was a cultural issue and could've been worked out, just consider how quickly Germany went from Weimar degeneracy to supremely based & redpilled. The hardline racial policy antagonized Slavs and led to ferocious fighting in the Ostfront, I've read that over 99% of them fought, with less than 1% as collaborators iirc (and most of those were hunted by the Soviet gov't or were POWs trying to survive).
Given the harsh methods of the Soviets, if the Germans had accepted Slavic people as Whites and potential members of the Reich, there would've been far less resistance and far more collaboration. Sure, this would've turned Lebensraum into a large-scale mixing between Aryans and lower grade Whites, but that doesn't really count as race-mixing, and the higher element would've prevailed.
Instead, Germany turned the invasion into an existential threat to Slavs, which ran into serious difficulties, which only confirms what I said above about the difficulties of thorough ethnic cleansing.
>>1574
>Colonizing Africa would require a thorough extermination of the resident niggers, which would've been costly and difficult,
You didn't say it was impossible. The process would be slow, but it is still a possibility, due to the ignorance of niggers.

>especially if they were covertly armed by ZOG nations
You're assuming that there would be any ZOG nations left. Also, look what happened when ZOG tried to kill the 
Rhodesians and how they got BTFO'd, despite having Spetsnaz training and all. You're providing nothing, but personal speculation.

>The African climate & environment is unsuited to Aryans
Then explain why the Boers, Portuguese, and Anglos, were able to live within the warmest climates within Africa for more than a hundred years? The climate of Africa is not entirely dry either. There are Aryans who live in the Mediterranean and West-Asian climates. Madison's theory on the Northern climate is inconsistent and wrong. Stop thinking these people are prophets who get everything right. Hitler read Schopenhauer's books, but do you think he was a Pessimist like his favorite philosopher was? If Europeans were only suitable to one climate, then imperialism would have been impossible and never occurred. There is also this saying that colonization is a "White man's burden", which is incredibly stupid to think. The theory that Europeans should never have colonized is based on ignorance of history and it is forgotten that it would have led to the domination of the Ottoman Empire and the Golden Horde over Europe. Pure fantasy, thinking that everything would go well if they'd done absolutely nothing, but farm.

>My unpopular opinion is that Hitler should've accepted Poles & Slavs as White.
He already saw them as Aryan, and that still wasn't enough to stop them from being autistic, or atleast it was for the Poles. The integration of Poles into the Aryan race was more of a costly task than sending Aryans into Africa ever was. And don't say that he should have given them more autonomy, because that would lead the Germans straight back to square one having to deal with the genocide and now, the lack of support that they desperately needed within the Eastern-Front.

>The hardline racial policy antagonized Slavs and led to ferocious fighting in the Ostfront
>Unironically believes in the lie
There was no "hardline racial policy". There is evidence that the NSDAP saw the Ukrainians and 
Muscovites as Aryans. They even welcomed them into the Reich. If the Germans were too harsh, then explain why they had more than a million volunteers from Russia and Ukraine assisting them against the Soviets?

>I've read that over 99% of them fought, with less than 1%
>I've read
Why are you being so vague?

>Germany turned the invasion into an existential threat to Slavs
>Ethnic cleansing
There's no proof of this. The loss of the war didn't come from the lack of collaborators, it came from the attrition of the harsh Winter and Lend-Lease that was provided by the Brits and Americans, along with the betrayal and incompetency of the German high command. The Soviets were also frequently killing Russians and Ukrainians and yet they still won the war.
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>>1574
>pls dont colonize africa plsss
Are you some race-mixed nigger? The world is for our taking. In the original prophesized timeline, the White races were supposed to cover the globe while non-White numbers were dwindling. Many high-IQ philosophers/scientists like Madison Grant and Lovecraft predicted this. The ONLY reason why this has not happened was because kike intervention into our plans. If it wasn't for them, there'd be a White overpopulation (which I'd rather accept over shitskin overpopulation). White lives matter way too much, compared to the other races. It was prophecy that we were supposed to win.
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>>1577
>Then explain why the Boers, Portuguese, and Anglos, were able to live within the warmest climates within Africa for more than a hundred years?
Much of the Boer and Anglo settlement was within an oceanic climate or the harsh extremes of the South African veldt. The weather was not of "the warmest climate", but similar to that of Northern France in many places. Notice that any European colonization of equatorial regions was spare or a failure. The Belgian Congo was nothing more than an open air sweat shop in some places, dirt hut-topia in others; British colonization of India was thin, and failed by the turn of the 20th century. The Dutch West Indies was a combination of the two former examples. We just don't work well in climates best suited for the most savage of races.
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>>1585
>Much of the Boer and Anglo settlement was within an oceanic climate or the harsh extremes of the South African veldt
No, most of the inhabitants resided around the oceanic climate. Boer settlements lie all across South Africa, such as in Brandfort. Rhodesia was in a rather arid and somewhat desert climate. Nonetheless, they lived there without incident. I also noticed you ignored what I said about the Portuguese. And just so you know, they also live in similar climates to France.

>Notice that any European colonization of equatorial regions was spare or a failure.
I'd like you to present evidence rather than just making stuff up out of thin air.

> The Belgian Congo was nothing more than an open air sweat shop in some places
That's because the Belgian Congo was run by trade companies. They didn't want to have the Belgians settle in because they were already making so much money by having the Africans work on the textiles. 

>British colonization of India was thin, and failed by the turn of the 20th century.
No it did not, stupid. The term "colonization" does not only refer to the movement of people from one location to another.It also includes the influence and control of foreign territories and people by the state as well. British colonization wasn't thin or a failure. The East Company was a monopoly, and interlopers were strictly prohibited because profiting from ignorant Indians made them filthy richer than having poor Whites come in and settle down and being forced to raise their wages. Even if wealthy Whites could help local economies, they would be denied entry into India because the government would have to redistribute their wealth.

>Dutch
Again, it was the same situation with the British. The Dutch only cared about money and resources. The climate within the East-Indies is mostly tropical, which isn't severe for Whites at all. The fact that White Australians can survive in tropical savanna climates proves that your climate theory is nonsense.
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>>1577
>You didn't say it was impossible. The process would be slow, but it is still a possibility, due to the ignorance of niggers.
not impossible, but I don't think it's worthwhile.

>You're assuming that there would be any ZOG nations left.
Another tall order. Even in the event of total victory, we don't need every continent.

>Rhodesians
They fought the good fight, no doubt, but in the end they were subverted and overwhelmed, with nothing left there but a black'd shithole. They were also in South Africa...

>Then explain why the Boers, Portuguese, and Anglos, were able to live within the warmest climates within Africa for more than a hundred years?
The main colonization efforts avoided the equator, and concentrated in South Africa. Colonies also tended to be in coastal areas with a moderate oceanic climate, as said by >>1585
>Stop thinking these people are prophets who get everything right.
Not perfect by any means, for example Madison Grant did not predict how birth control would lead to hedonism & degeneracy; he focused only on its positive use for eugenics, and didn't imagine Jewish perversion. That said, there's much of quality there.

>If Europeans were only suitable to one climate, then imperialism would have been impossible and never occurred. 
It's not that narrow, but we do have an ideal range for climate & biome, which is broad but not all-encompassing.

>Pure fantasy, thinking that everything would go well if they'd done absolutely nothing, but farm.
Colonization was a great success for our race, at first. But we should pick & choose our ethnocontinents & settled regions.

>Polish autism, genocide
To be clear, occupation and punishment for the offenders was justified. However, the population could still have been integrated.

>There was no "hardline racial policy".
I'd have to brush up on this again, but weren't they dispossessing slavs in favor of germans? Or am I misremembering and conflating ZOG propaganda with reality? I seem to recall the Soviet POWs being treated harshly.

>attrition of the harsh Winter and Lend-Lease that was provided by the Brits and Americans, along with the betrayal and incompetency of the German high command. 
All those factors are important, although I wouldn't call the Germans incompetent so much as rigid & stubborn -- their tendency to bet high & lose was too costly. However, there's no denying that the Russians put up very determined resistance.

>then explain why they had more than a million volunteers from Russia and Ukraine assisting them against the Soviets?
what matters most is proportion. how many collaborated, vs how many fought in harsh conditions?

>>1584
>Are you some race-mixed nigger?
lol, no. apparently having brown eyes & blond hair is a disharmonic combination, but that's as far as it goes.

>The world is for our taking.
I think we should use discretion in what we take as ours, vs leave to others. Besides, there are higher non-white races that we can get along with.

>It was prophecy that we were supposed to win.
I wonder why that's been deferred. I speculated in another post that maybe there's some larger purpose to the loss of WWII and Clown World that I can't perceive, but who knows.
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>>1595
>there are higher non-white races that we can get along with.
THERE WE GO! THERE'S THE SUBVERSION. Banhammer time.
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>>1599
ffs, stop being so trigger-happy. to clarify, I didn't say higher than us, because no race is higher than Aryan, except the gods.
But there are distinctions between non-white races, there's a hierarchy, not all are niggers. I consider the Japanese and Persians to be not far from us, and worthwhile as allies.
The Persians had Aryan admixture early in their history, and while it's been watered down, it still distinguishes them from their lower Arab neighbors. I think this is also the reason for the fine Persian aesthetic that was borrowed by Islam.
As for the Japanese, it's unlikely they had any Aryan influence (although there are stories of green eyes and blond hair in Central Asia). However, of all the East Asian types, they are most similar to us. Different of course, but in a complementary, analogous sort of way.
Niggers are obviously a lower race, but I think many of the problems come from their presence within Western society, and their handlers spurring them on and using them as shock troops. If they were sequestered in Africa and left to their own devices, I think most trouble would cease. The only race who really needs to be destroyed are those parasites who can't live without a host.
>>1599
I agree with anon, ban this nigger. He's the same faggot denying that Jews have influence. He's a disingenuous fed.
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>>1602
that wasn't me, at all.

a rough draft of the racial hierarchy:

1. Whites
2. Japanese, Persians
3. Native Americans, Manchus, Central Asians
4. Koreans, Northern Chinese
5. Southern Chinese, SEA, Malay, Polynesian, etc
6. Arab
7. Indian, Jamaican
8. Black (american)
9. African, Aborigine
10. Jews

again, it's a rough draft subject to revision. I wasn't sure where to put Hispanics, depending on their ancestry they could be anywhere from 3-5. I also didn't bother adding power gaps. However, I think I'm on the right track.
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>>1589
>No, most of the inhabitants resided around the oceanic climate. Boer settlements lie all across South Africa, such as in Brandfort.
> I also noticed you ignored what I said about the Portuguese. And just so you know, they also live in similar climates to France
You are agreeing with me. I don't understand what you are arguing.

Also, the principle settlements of Australia and the majority of it's population are situated in oceanic and, to a lesser extent, sub-tropical climates. Refer to pics related.

> Rhodesia was in a rather arid and somewhat desert climate
You'll recall that the whites of the Rhodesian Bush War suffered greatly from being vastly outnumbered by African blacks. Any white civilization that settles in arid to semi-arid climates dissolves in a few hundred years, like the Kingdom of the Vistigoths and Achaean and Doric Greece. Easy agriculture and climate promotes languidity which the non-whites who thrive in those climates quickly take advantage of.  

Every example of the failure to colonize equatorial regions I bring up, you dismiss as run by money hungry trade companies, but the original Jamestown settlement of Virginia was chartered by one of these trading companies. It existed as a financial venture, yet it grew into a full fledged colony, although even here the harsher summers and humid climate took many colonists' lives. The settlement of St. Augustine, 100 years Jamestown's senior, failed to produce a colony. Hundreds of years later, during the time of chattel slavery, the U.S. government practically handed out land in florida, yet they struggled to populate the state and keep men alive until the complete domestication of it's land, all the while the American West expanded at breakneck speed. 

You blaming these failures on trading companies is like people blaming the failures of african blacks on European colonization. There is a clear pattern you willingly fail to recognize out of a desire for whites to be the best at everything all of the time. The fact of the matter is that some races will have slightly higher IQs or be better attempted to certain styles of life, but the beauty of the nordic man is that he possesses a level of empathy as well as physical and mental prowess that makes him the greatest expression of man. 

>>1599
>>1602
The anon you want to ban has posted in the /fbc/ thread, and I assume (correct me if I'm wrong) that he is the main poster in the /silver city/ thread. While I take issue with his use of the reductionist term "Clown world", he clearly makes high value posts. There is nothing wrong with recognizing the strengths of other upstanding races. The second one starts to underestimate his adversary is the second, he loses.
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>>1595
>but I don't think it's worthwhile.
No one cares what you think. Don't respond to me the second time because your arguments stink. 

>Even in the event of total victory, we don't need every continent.
If ZOG lies anywhere, it must be destroyed. Anything that is a threat to the Aryan race will have to be eliminated for a total victory, which is what "total" means. You would have been better off stating that you could make non-Aryans allies instead of obliterating them; then, for the first time, you would be making sense here. However, you must explain how this is a possibility and will occur concurrently.

> but in the end they were subverted and overwhelmed,
That was only because of the UK and the aristocracy.

>The main colonization efforts avoided the equator, and concentrated in South Africa.
South Africa isn't near the equator, stop repeating yourself and acting as if you understand its geography. The equator wasn't the only place that consists of deserts and extremely warm climates. There was no concentration of white people to go only into South Africa. There were many other parts that were colonized, such as Angola, and their main issue wasn't climate but famines, which is one of the reasons why they didn't expand the White population.

>Colonies also tended to be in coastal areas with a moderate oceanic climate
I already debunked this in my previous post, anon.

>as said
Your samefag failed.

>that said, there's much of quality there
I didn't say it didn't have quality; I said he was wrong on the idea that White people cannot adapt to other climates. READ NIGGER READ.

>but we do have an ideal range for climate & biome
I don't remember when Scandinavians ever saw their own climate as "ideal" or were incapable of colonizing anywhere else.

>But we should pick & choose our ethnocontinents & settled regions.
No, we don't. We choose where we want to live and how. You say it was a great success for our race, but forget that one of the reasons it was successful was because we quickly adapted to the land and its climates.

>However, the population could still have been integrated.
>same statement from 36df1c 
You're repeating yourself. I already stated that Poland was to be integrated, so this means that you're being ignorant on purpose. You can't force a person to want to be part of the Aryan race if they themselves do not want to.

>but weren't they dispossessing slavs in favor of germans?
By asking this question, you confirm that you don't have proof of any harsh "racial" policies against the Slavs and are just making them up out of thin air.

>I seem to recall the Soviet POWs being treated harshly.
You were court-martialed for mistreatment of POWs. I can only imagine Soviet loyalists being treated like shite as POWs. Although it is likely the Germans made no exceptions. 

>although I wouldn't call the Germans incompetent so much as rigid & stubborn 
They went against Hitler's command to attack and focused on taking Leningrad first, before Moscow. Then proceeded to ruin his plans altogether.

>However, there's no denying that the Russians put up very determined resistance.
No, they were not. Here we go again with the same particular behavior as the faggot in the Abrahamic thread has. You refuse to read what was said previously because you're illiterate and cannot cope. I asked for proof that they were being too harsh, and you provided none, surprise, surprise.

> what matters most is proportion
Oh yes, the Germans could totally rally more than 30 million slavs against the Soviet Union. The proportion and number of Slavs who will fight simply because they are called Aryans is so realistic and effective.

I don't even want to exterminate every race, other than the Jews.

>>1604
>wasn't me
You made the exact same arguments in your previous post, my nigger. 

>racial hierarchy
Just no, no. You just posted cringe. 

>>1606
No, I'm not. Brandfort is not anywhere near an "oceanic climate."

>I don't understand what you are arguing.
That's the problem. You're just too stupid to understand the words being said to (you).

>Also, the principle settlements of Australia and the majority of it's population are situated in oceanic
The majority of the population being settled around the ocean completely ignores the fact that there are also many settlements that aren't seaports. You have given me graphs of population density and geography (like a fool), but fail to realize that I'm not arguing in favor of large settlements of Whites; I'm proving you wrong on the idea that it is impossible or difficult for Aryans to live in other environments such as Alice Springs or Eridunnda. Generally, these areas have always been sparsely populated, even among the pre-European inhabitants. Many parts of Africa and Australia weren't settled until White people arrived. Your argument denies the historical context of colonization and generally misunderstands the point of my argument.

>You'll recall that the whites of the Rhodesian Bush War suffered greatly from being vastly outnumbered by African blacks
I don't recall this because that's not what happened. The ratio of Whites to Negroes has nothing to do with Whites being able to live on the land, nor did it halve performance or bring about the outcome of the war.

>Any white civilization that settles in arid to semi-arid climates dissolves in a few hundred years
What White civilization has dissolved due to arid climates? Once again, you're making things up and screwing around with the historical context of the Bush War. There were and are White Berbers, and yet they reside in arid or even desert climates.

>like the Kingdom of the Vistigoths and Achaean and Doric Greece.
>Geographical and historically illeritate
First of all, the Vistiogothic Kingdom did not dissolve due to arid climates. The Iberian Peninsula is mostly temperate, retard. Alicante, Murcia, and Almería are the only arid places there. The Visigoths had already encountered densely populated cities, towns, and villages, which is why they did not settle in many places. Plus, they've only established themselves as a form of racial aristocracy, so that was ultimately their fault for the lack of Northern Europeans within Iberia. The Achaeneans resided in the north of the Peloponnese, which is mostly temperate and consists of oceanic climates. The Dorians resided mostly in the south and east of the peninsula. There were arid regions, but they were also surrounded by oceans. So I don't know why you're using them as examples if you're only going to end up shooting yourself in the foot.

>Every example of the failure to colonize equatorial regions I bring up, you dismiss as run by money hungry trade companies
>Explain the details
<Y-you're dismissing what I've said!
You really are the same nigger from the Abrahamic thread, lol. I didn't dismiss anything, you're just a dumbass. The Belgian Congos were run by trade companies, that is a fact. Why would a trade company, aka a proto-capitalist, want Whites laborers to come into places if they're going to raise wages and spend more money on social services? And India is above the equator, so I don't know why you're bitching about it so much.  What I said about the British occupation is all true. It's not my fault that you can't cope and have an autistic desire to shill. Or maybe you're just another non-Aryan telling us on how we should go about things.

>but the original Jamestown settlement of Virginia was chartered by one of these trading companies.
Yeah, and guess what? THERE WEREN'T ANY AMERINDIANS ANY WHERE NEAR JAMESTOWN. Jamestown wasn't chartered until after its founding.

> although even here the harsher summers and humid climate took many colonists' lives
No, it didn't. You're talking about the previous settlement that failed, Roanoke Colony, which only failed, because it did not have enough support to fend off the Chowanoke raids. You also forget that, in the end, Jamestown was successful. 

>The settlement of St. Augustine
St. Augustine was a Spanish colony and was not a failure either. They've only faced threats from Caribbean pirates and British and American invaders. After being conquered by the Anglos the only troubles they were facing was with the pirates.


>he U.S. government practically handed out land in florida, yet they struggled to populate the state and keep men alive until the complete domestication of it's land
There's no proof of this. Stop making nonsense because you can't accept that the white man is a natural conqueror who can adapt to most lands.

>You blaming these failures on trading companies is like people blaming the failures of african blacks on European colonization. 
Not even remotely close in comparison. Again, cope.

>There is a clear pattern you willingly fail to recognize out of a desire for whites to be the best at everything all of the time. 
There's a clear pattern that you will falsify history to make your arguments appear favorable. You have no sources to back up your claim that the following settlements and establishments failed due to the unhabitable climate. You looked up arid climates and colonies but didn't even look up their histories.

>The anon you want to ban has posted in the /fbc/ thread, and I assume (correct me if I'm wrong) that he is the main poster in the /silver city/ thread. 
Yeah, huh, sure. I think we're done here and I would request someone who isn't dumb as a Sub-Saharan bamboo mouth nigger.
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>>1609
Also to add onto Jamestown, the population was still encouraged to grow and White migrants were allowed to settle into it. The charter companies of India weren't treated in the same fashion as they were in America.
>>1609
>ZOG
yes, pathogens must be dealt with thoroughly to avoid future infections.

>climate
it's possible for us to survive in the full range of climate, but not thrive. The other anon provided even more evidence that we do better in cool, oceanic climates; sweltering heat, deserts and rainforests are for the darker races, not us.

>ostfront
I'd have to delve in again, I was going by general impressions and what I recall reading awhile back. Given all the propaganda regarding WWII, I might've been misled regarding the Third Reich's treatment of Slavs.

>samefag
I have no idea why spastics like you conflate me with other anons. For the record, I posted in the book thread, but not in /silvercity/ (but I can see where that error comes from, his posting style is quite similar to my own).

<racial hierarchy
>Just no, no. You just posted cringe. 
Lol. The real world is a bit more complex than Whites, niggers, and kikes. There are gradations and subtleties within large concepts, and that includes race.
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>>1612
>Lol. The real world is a bit more complex than Whites, niggers, and kikes.
>There are gradations and subtleties within large concepts, and that includes race.
<Establishes a shitty imaginative hierarchy that makes no sense whatsoever
Go outside.
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>>1613
Why would you not just point at Egypt and it's Aryan rulers to debunk this idiot, or the city of Alexandria, An almost entirely Aryan city that was quite literally the center of much thriving for the Aryan race from when it was founded to it's fall after Rome's collapse.
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>>1617
>Egypt and it's Aryan rulers to debunk this idiot,
Akhenaten was the only known Pharaoh with substantial Aryan ancestry (1/2). Beyond that, the ruling dynasties of Egypt contained at best small vestiges of aryan dna from unrecorded history. Egypt's complete lack of original innovation for all of it's recorded history should be sufficient evidence of this. 

>the city of Alexandria
For several centuries of the Roman period, Alexandria was festering with jews. They had pogroms. It was no aryan bastion.
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>>1620
Yeah, no,  Tut has been DNA tested and were found to be entirely western european, in addition to the ancient population in general being more related to Westerners in general,(both ancient and modern europeans), and the burning of Alexandrias library did destroy and did the operations of Christians for nearly 2 thousand years any record of egyptian accomplishments in technology which it is a struggle to even begin to recontruct what they may have had or done, it should be enough that they held sway over a very large portion of North Africa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNA-tested_mummies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutankhamun
Proves Tut's R1b Aryan DNA, and if you look at his own page that of several predating his well as that of several pharoahs predating him by inference
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/ancient-egyptians-europeans-related-claims-a7763866.html
For general ancient Egyptian DNA.

We all know the history of Alexandria and that jews were there, but that was mostly in the roman empire, which only occurred due to a cultural decline, but the city was always ruled by Europeans, and populated mostly by Europeans, until it left our hands.
Both of those do succinctly debunk your argument
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>>1574
>My unpopular opinion is that Hitler should've accepted Poles & Slavs as White. 
That's mine too. But the problem is that likely russian/soviet propaganda made it out so that germans killed slavs. So I'm not suprised they made that out.
But I actually like an intresting idea. There were pro-hitler forces in poland or atleast fascist. It would be intresting if instead of general protectorate we would get a falangist poland. But god knows how much supportive they would've been.
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>>1636
> falangist poland.
Stupid idea. Never going to happen. Poland was and still is too cucked. As anon said, the Slavs were already accepted as Aryan, but that didn't improve relations between the Germans and the Poles. Many of you are exposing yourselves on how you know nothing of fascism and the National Socialism.
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>>1637
Anon, I would actually like to learn, but it's impossible in middle of ex-warsaw pact europe. 
I'm still learner and don't post here much.
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>>1636
>>1637
During the war, there was a group of falangists within Poland known as the Falanga National Radical Camp, but they were working for the Polish Underground State via the Allies. Today, they're known as the National Radical Camp, and some of you may have seen their flag during Narodowe Święto Niepodległości within Poland. Traditionalist syndicalists aren't always the best of friends with classical fascists.

>>1645
It is no biggie, anon. But I can kind of understand 59973c's point.
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>>1637
Falangist Poland was unrealistic, and I'm aware of all the existing conflict. I was wondering about integration, that's all.
>Many of you are exposing yourselves on how you know nothing of fascism and the National Socialism.
I admitted that I'm rather vague on that particular topic, because as much as I know, I can't be an expert on everything. There's no need to take it there. ZOG propaganda can be an obscuring factor as well.

>>1613
I was thinking of promoting Indians up to Arabs, perhaps that would make it better.

>>1629
it may be that Kemet's ruling dynasties and priesthood had Aryan infusion, while the general population did not. There's evidence of them being lighter than Africans but not White, pic related.
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>>1653
You didn't even read the article, did you?
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>>1661
just checked it now. It's very likely that ancient Egyptians were a different people and race than the modern population, and that they were closer to White. However, related does not necessarily mean equivalent, especially since they seem to depict themselves as light reddish brown with non-White features. Their sampling also does not rule out racial differences between the common people and elites, which may or may not have been significant.
>>1653
>I was thinking of promoting Indians up to Arabs, perhaps that would make it better.
How about you just stop producing cringe all together?
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>>1664
>>1653
>I was thinking of promoting Indians up to Arabs, perhaps that would make it better.
You're definitely a shitskin or a mulatto who thinks he can be in our ranks. Remember, just because we're White 'nationalists' doesn't mean we don't believe in White supremacy. White nationalism = White supremacy as always. We're just moving slowly until time is ripe.
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Anglos are the faggiest and worst race out of all of the Germanic/European races. Fuck em.
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This isn't an opinion, but rather an unpopular fact. The Khazar Theory is one of the dumbest beliefs within JQ-circles. It is literally shilled by hasbara, christcucks, and feds. The whole thing is comprised of historically inaccuracies. To make matters worst is that the belief itself was established by a communist jew known as Arthur Koestler who established this lie to purposely stir anti-semitism to get European jews to flee to Jerusalem.
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I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but Strasserites are the biggest faggots. They shouldn't be recognized as National Socialists or fascists, but communists in disguise. They are no better than communists and should be treated as such. It is also so common that many of them are literal queers.
>>1729
>This isn't an opinion, but rather an unpopular fact. The Khazar Theory is one of the dumbest beliefs within JQ-circles. It is literally shilled by hasbara, christcucks, and feds. The whole thing is comprised of historically inaccuracies.
Could you expand on the issues with the Khazar Theory? I always thought that ashkenazis were the descendants of jews that migrated to Europe and then mixed with white populations. I don't see what difference it would make if they were from the pontic steppe.
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>>1795
>Could you expand on the issues with the Khazar Theory? 
Not that anon, but he is sort of right on what he said. The Khazar Theory was first begun by a jewish communist known as Arthur Koestler in his book "The Thirteenth Tribe". His goal was actually to make antisemitism "disappear" rather have jews flee to Jerusalem. In order to accomplish this he created this story to trick everyone into believing that not all of the jews are naturally deceitful because the "Khazarian Mafia" are the sole reason for their poor reputation. Arthur and CIs boldly declare that ashkenazis are not the descendants of the Israelites, but are of partial Turkic blood whose gentile ancestors somehow converted to Judaism even though rabbis are generally against conversions of non-jews, especially if they are nothing like them. And because of this supposed mixing of bloods, they are the sole reason why jews are so subversive, corrupt, and degenerate all together. Despite the fact the Hebrew Bible corresponds with the behavior and attitudes of jews today, even if modern Js are a little unorthodox. The issues wrong with KT is that its original task was to kill antisemitism aka criticism of jews, and downplay the fact that the dishonorable actions of jews have been a thing since their birth of their identity. While CI use it to we wuz Whites into being the true Israelites without knowing the background and intentions of the guy who first created the theory and how he was inspired by other jews and orientalists who always had similar goals to Koestler. None of any Chronicles of the Khazars mention them converting to Judaism or being jewish itself. There is only a set of documents that claim that there were Khazars who did convert to Judaism, although these documents are likely fake. KT is just one giant No True Scotsman. 

>I always thought that ashkenazis were the descendants of jews that migrated to Europe and then mixed with white populations. 
They are. They're mostly Southern-European/Med-cuck descendant.

>I don't see what difference it would make if they were from the pontic steppe.
What you have to understand here, anon, is that KT is just a shill, as is commonly repeated by Q-anons and CIfags. It simply exists to downplay the truths of the JQ and curtail any awareness of the true nature of the jewish race and why the White Man must ridicule Abraham and kill Yahweh. It exists simply to blame us gentiles as the reason for the corruption of jews. 

https://odysee.com/@KnowMoreNews:1/KhazarMaf-Exposed:8
https://odysee.com/@ExposeTheEnemy:b/Kanye-Musk-Khazar-Theory-Infowars:b
>>1795
>I don't see what difference it would make if they were from the pontic steppe.
The origin of the Jews is important, as the Pontic Steppe Theory turns minds away from the fact that the Christians, Romans, and Greeks were responsible for the creation of many Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews and the fact that the origin of and bloodlines of Ashkenazis do not originate from the Turks at all. Also, this idea that it was only half-European Jews is retarded when you understand why Sephardic Jews are just as bad and equal in power. Christians were the ones who took over the Roman Empire, established many havens for Jews throughout Europe, and brought many of their mind-altering institutions there as well. Foolishly declaring that the Ashkenazis are responsible for the evils of Jews and are generally Khazarian makes no sense since most Ashkenazis have lived in southern Europe prior to the arrival of the Turks. Also, some of the Khazars were said to have blue eyes, reddish hair, and white skin by al-Iṣṭakhrī. This does indeed seem to be just another attack on the Aryans and their descendants.
Monarchism is dumb and I don't know why RWs insist that it is any better than a fascist republic.
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>>1801
They do that because they are right wing, and also because there are more forms of Monarchy than just the Christnigger one.
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>>1804
>there are more forms of Monarchy than just the Christnigger one.
I still think it's retarded for anyone whether they're Christian or not to encourage royalism and absolutism as a solution to our problem.
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>>1805
Not all forms of Monarchy feature those two attributes.
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>>1665
you are mistaken.

>>1713
I don't think its the Anglos themselves, but rather the Zionist influence within their regimes (British Empire, GAE).
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>Hitler should've accepted Poles & Slavs as White.
The NSDAP were already accepting Poles as denizens of the Reich. Withal, none of them ever visually perceived the Poles as non-Aryans, they only categorized them as non-GERMAN. Generally anyone who has a portion of homogeneous blood to the Germans can become citizens of the Reich. Poles and Ukrainian were listed as the few.
If you unironically support Andrew Tate and the manosphere, then you're a kike, fed, and faggot.
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>>40
>Christianity will lead to the extinction of our race
Christianity hasn't lead to the extinction of any race for 2000 years, LARPagan bozo.

>If you wish to fight over religion, take it to the Anti-Abrahamism thread
Lead by example, then, smart guy.
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>>2413
>Christianity hasn't lead to the extinction of any race for 2000 years
You caused the near extinction of Amerindians throughout Mesoamerica due to rapid miscegenation. Spics are now more predominant than any of the other purer races that live in what is now Mexico. Also, why are you responding to post that was made a year ago? Did reading cause so much butt-hurt that you decided to make it irrelevant again?
>>2408
Provide actual reasons and rationale for that declaration, there is truth is what Tate talks about but in general as a mixed race nigger he can be discarded.
>>2413
It is leading to the destruction of all races on this earth (except for it's favored jews, and arguably even them just slower) right now. Just because it hasn't yet finished the job it was designed for doesn't mean it isn't exactly what I have said it is.
As for your "Lead by example" quip, I quite literally have done that, if you wish to bitch more about how anti-christian I, and others on this board are, please  do it in that thread or I will ban you.
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>>2415
>Provide actual reasons and rationale for that declaration
<You need to prove a reason to everyone that one of the most well-known and insufferable imbeciles within the manosphere who also openly endorses ZOG as a negative influence

>there is truth is what Tate talks about
>but in general as a mixed race nigger he can be discarded
<That being the main reason to reject and shit on him
You're a lost cause. inb4 ban.
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>>2416
All I was asking was for a little bit more effort than just muh declaration, which you still haven't shown, by the way. Personally I prefer to analyze men like him who have attracted such large followings despite his disgusting heritage, and see if I cannot find those things necessary to pull potentially awakened people away from his degenerate ideology, but to do so one must be willing to acknowledge where he speaks truth, and be able to accurately point out where he doesn't. Whether we like it or not he has a large following of young men, both White and not. We have to know how he thinks, and how he teaches those who follow him to think, in order to supplant the lies he follows and propagates, with the full truth, or at least as full a truth as we can muster, to show to young men lost to social media demagogues like him. Declare me a lost cause for being pragmatic all you like, that makes you the retard, not me
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>>2417
>All I was asking was for a little bit more effort than just muh declaration
Pretty sure it is common knowledge and undeniable that this guy and much of his fan are losers, unless you've been living under a rock.

>which you still haven't shown, by the way
I literally gave you a mp4 and picture to that undoubtly that this dude is another clown straight from the NJO. 

>f I cannot find those things necessary to pull potentially awakened people away from his degenerate ideology
This is like trying to pull trannies away from ZOG, because of how autistic they are and the fact that they literally have nothing to lose. I haven't met a single Tate fan whose "awakened", they just hate women and want a piece of the cake of what the kikes are willingly to spare if you're on their good side. 

>Whether we like it or not he has a large following of young men, both White and not
Most of his followers are shit-skins.

> supplant the lies he follows and propagates
Just to get more shit-skins and losers into fascism? You be better of trying to do that with MAGA-niggers, and the current immigration crisis in the United States.

> Declare me a lost cause for being pragmatic
Sure, you're a lost cause, and a retard for thinking you can gain anything from his fake and reddit fan-base.
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>>2419
>Pretty sure it is common knowledge and undeniable that this guy and much of his fan are losers, unless you've been living under a rock.
I have neither been living under a rock nor is it even remotely relevant what "common knowledge" dictates. Such "knowledge" isn't worth a shit in any discussion of any sort of merit as going by "common knowledge" all human races are perfectly equal, the negro is kept down by the white mans slavery from 180 years ago, not only in the US but everywhere, 6 million jews and 55 million others were killed in the german "death camps", etc. etc.. Invoking that shit just points you out to be a giant fucking retard, or a woman, who does not belong here. As much as I dislike some of what Andrew Tate does and did, and advocates for, he seems to be genuinely trying to help young men, yes he is leading many towards a degenerate form of manhood(which is infinitely better and more tolerable than the feminine "manhood" society and "common knowledge dictate to us today), yes, it isn't ideal, far from it and it isn't what I would advocate for in his place but I don't have the luxury of having millions of dollars, some of which was made bilking degenerate losers out of house and home.
There is no real way to characterize Tate himself as a loser, he is objectively successful, does that make him a good man? absolutely not, but it makes him quite the opposite of a loser, as for his following whatever their demographics, the entire point is that they are lost young men looking for guidance in being men that their predominantly single mother households lacked utterly and they did or do not have the will to make their own way to being a man, so call them losers all you wish but at least they are actively trying to better themselves white or not, and he does have a lot of White followers, some of whom can and certainly will be recovered and can be set on the correct path, because Tate does speak some truth, but he also propagates many lies that do not serve our interests.
>I literally gave you a mp4 and picture to that undoubtly that this dude is another clown straight from the NJO.
And I watched the video which is a somewhat humorous story of him bilking degenerate camwhore site viewers out of everything they had, which I could care less about, because if you're stupid enough to give those whores money, you deserve whatever ill befalls you. The picture is simple bragging on his part at how he doesn't have to cook, if you have the money and the luxury to never have to cook your own food, why would you? He also quite regularly advocates for being careful what one puts in ones body and shows that he is quite careful about what he puts in his body himself, he probably said takeout because, even in Romania, the quality of food in Europe is much higher and healthier than it is here in the US, at least in general, he also actively discourages drug use, of any sort, outside of actual necessity such as severe physical trauma and shit like surgery.
>This is like trying to pull trannies away from ZOG, because of how autistic they are and the fact that they literally have nothing to lose.
Tate's fans have less overlap with autism than trannies do, and as most of his followers are young, from what I've gathered between fifteen and 25 on average, of course they have "nothing to lose", they haven't built anything to lose.
>I haven't met a single Tate fan whose "awakened", they just hate women and want a piece of the cake of what the kikes are willingly to spare if you're on their good side.
What you've met is irrelevant, again a mischaracterization, while he certainly has fans who do nothing but hate women, anybody who advocates for men's interests has such fans so it's nothing that could be held against him. Tate himself specifically advocates that they love women as he loves women, but that a man shouldn't let them rule him and that the man should be the dominant party in any relationship between any given man and woman, and that a man should have standards that should the woman violate you part ways, all true. Is he quite bombastic in how he says the truths, that he does about women, yes, without doubt, but he is very far from hating them and seems especially careful to make sure any of his women are a willing party to whatever he desires from and with them.
>Most of his followers are shit-skins.
You can't even begin to prove this, and just based on where most of his fans seem to be located, places like America, the UK, Europe at large, even Australia, the odds are that his fanbase being from these places is that more than a third , and I would say up to a half are young White men, who are lost because of the general state of society and the extremely female beneficial systems in place which is only pointed out more an more with the abuse of these systems by faggots pretending to be women. As such,  Is it any wonder that a half-nigger makes strides doing what nobody else is doing?
>Just to get more shit-skins and losers into fascism? You be better of trying to do that with MAGA-niggers, and the current immigration crisis in the United States.
No, to try and save what few can be saved, while society still remains relatively stable, and we have the opportunity to do so. The MAGA-niggers are worse prospects because they believe in more of the societal lies, and are outraged about the replacement being done illegally, not about it being done at all, and about the sexual assault of poor little spic girls trafficked by cartels, as evidenced by their consumption of that movie about and by Harriet Tubman worshipper Tim Ballard, ZOGnigger extraordinaire, and their general elevation of nigger-loving and nigger-lovers and even niggers. True one would have a somewhat similar issue about race with a Tate fan, but they are generally more open to the truth, at least in my experience.
>Sure, you're a lost cause, and a retard for thinking you can gain anything from his fake and reddit fan-base
Tate has little to no overlap with reddit, and his fan base is quite real, and it is a problem for NS that we have nobody speaking on the issues most pressing to Young White men the way people like Tate do, he has as much of a following as he does because he speaks a lot of truth, couched in that are lies that reinforce the system and encourage degeneracy instead of better ways to go about things, but is he better that most of what we see yes, and he gets too close to the truth sometimes for ZOG's comfort which is why they've punished him with the shit Romania is pulling now.
All in all, your every claim and argument is ill informed and seems to be entirely based on what other people say about Tate and no real criticisms of what he says or does or what he advocates for as a whole, I can criticize his use of camwhores all day, or his bombastic bullshit about how rich and powerful he is, and how his stories about his rise to Millionaire and the degenerate shit he pulled to get there, end up undercutting many of his better messages, but until I see a National Socialist stand up and do it better without compromise, instead of avoiding what truths Tate does speak and even whining like feminists about shit that doesn't matter, I'll work with what I can to help the cause and further the cause of truth in the world.
If you aren't a woman, you are a complete retard. Tate is an enemy, obviously, but you should understand your enemies better than you understand even yourself if you wish to defeat them. You can't just throw everything they say aside like it's so much chaff and expect to beat them at every turn, you need to actually use your mind, not be a moron who does exactly what they accuse others of doing.
Put some real effort in next time, or leave.
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>>2421
Are you really trying to tell me and everyone else that the neo-pick up artist has anything to add to the conversation? The guy is very brazen about his human trafficking and the only reason why ZOG is against him is because he just isn't part of their clique. 
We should be looking toward aryan ideals of nobility, and taking a spiritual stance, not looking toward yet another debased materialist like Andrew Tate. He is just one more in a trend of 'online internet dads', which should also be a clue to anyone that a real man has better things to do than post himself on the web and spouse his opinion, like I don't know raising his family. Which by the way isn't this man ignoring several of his bastards, in order to pursue this degenerate sex addict life?
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>>2423
>Are you really trying to tell me and everyone else that the neo-pick up artist has anything to add to the conversation? 
Are you stupid or just intentionally dense? Please point out where I said any such thing, I simply acknowledged that he tells some truth and pointed out that he has a sizable following of young impressionable men, many of whom are White and that attacking Tate personally in any attempt to push these young men onto a better path does nothing to save any of them, and in fact pushes them more into the degenerate shit he encourages but yeah I think he has valuable things to say alright( this last part is sarcasm just to be extremely fucking clear for your dense ass).
>The guy is very brazen about his human trafficking and the only reason why ZOG is against him is because he just isn't part of their clique. 
Yes he's very brazen about this thing that Romania even admits it has no evidence for, and despite numerous supposed victims, no reliable witnesses have come forward and those women that have spoken unequivocally support Tates version of events Legitimately wondering why Romania is continuing with this farce and isn't prosecuting the actual humans traffickers quite rampant in their country and keep the man on house arrest and him in the mainstream as a topic not only of interest, but who recently was had on by Tucker Carlson for an interview, and he's getting huge numbers of views on twitter, and who knows how many other places? 
>We should be looking toward aryan ideals of nobility, and taking a spiritual stance, not looking toward yet another debased materialist like Andrew Tate.\ 
Again, please point out where I disagree with that at all.
>He is just one more in a trend of 'online internet dads', which should also be a clue to anyone that a real man has better things to do than post himself on the web and spouse his opinion, like I don't know raising his family.
No shit retard, several times in that post alone I point exactly this out though I didn't phrase it as you do. Again you niggers lament this shit and put so little effort in, wasting my time and yours to not even say anything except reiterate some of the points I already made. 
I'm content to talk with any young Whites I find being pulled in to Tate's degenerate ways but to pull them out you have to understand what you're trying to argue against and what you're arguing for, which you(if you are the same anon I was talking to) seem to completely just not fucking care about as if convincing people of a better way of living is as simple as "Hey retard do this not that!", when it's the farthest thing from it and may not work even for a master at persuasion.
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>>2426
You sure are awfully huffy about your internet dad. Anyway I was checking miles mathis's site recently, and he actually wrote an article about the Tate and Tucker interview. 

Maybe I'd take you more seriously if you didn't feel the need to swear and make personal attacks against others; then maybe your arguments would come off as cohesive and interesting, instead of angry rambling. Here is the Miles Mathis article by the way, hope that helps. http://mileswmathis.com/tate3.pdf
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>>2428
I do no such thing, showing you're not even capable of reading even my first post. 
You have revealed yourself to be an idiot and a shill by even bringing up Miles Mathis who is legitimately a moron, the man spews jewish propaganda about avoiding a race war, Hitler being Gay and jewish and other such ridiculous bullshit, you were never here to have any kind of discussion in good faith, and seem most probably to be yet another kike.
All of my insults are either in response to prior insults, or actually a reasoned argument themselves, such as calling you a woman, and they do not interfere with or call into question the arguments I made at all.
If you cannot even bother to read the arguments, insults or no, and respond to them you do not belong here, and if you respond again without actually addressing any of my arguments, you will be banned.
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>>2435
This is a different Anon

If you want to understand Andrew Tate, I can explain his mindset to you. Andrew Tate functions like any other jewish-spirited businessman of the past century or greater. His whole grift centers around the idea that you must "hustle" rather than do honest work, and this attitude can be seen with the modern "side-hustle" trend, and the general attitude that one should be seeking out the next useless "big idea". Tate is teaching young men to worship the absence of real, positive work in favor of parasitic "work" that contributes nothing to society, and he primes those young men to feel nothing men scamming their own people by saying that they are just a part of the "Matrix". If you want to understand Tate, you must understand the modern psychopathy inherent to our present day Judeo-capitalist economy. 

You could also extend this worldview to Tate's (and the rest of the manosphere's, despite their interesting insights on female psychology) handling of women. To Tate, women are wholly responsible for their own actions, and it is therefore just to manipulate them into having harmful sex because "it's the free market", just like many make excuses for large jewish companies exploiting the masses. All is the shirking of blame, all is really jewish femininity rather than any real masculinity. Hopefully that helps.
>>2428
>You can't even begin to prove this, and just based on where most of his fans seem to be located, places like America, the UK, Europe at large, even Australia
<Places flooded with shit-skins, and other non-Whites. 
<Places that are infamous for their non-White incels
Yup definitely retarded.
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>>2515
North America is 57% pure White European people, The UK About 70 percent IIRC, most of the rest of Europe similar to the UK, save France Italy and Spain, in fact all of europe is nearly entirely pure outside of major cities like Berlin. "Incels" are not a non white exclusive or even non-white majority phenomenon, I would argue that most are in fact White, even if they are dysgenic, because while our societies are specifically stacked against men in general they are most particularly stacked against, and to demoralize and disenfranchise, White men.
Based on these three facts alone you(since I know you're the same faggot) could not begin to argue that Tate's fans are all Non-White without choosing to deny the truth in front of your face.
If you can do nothing but argue blatant falsehoods, you do not belong on this board.
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>>2521
>North America is 57% pure White European people,
You're pilpuling now. It doesn't matter how many White people are in the northern continent of America. The demographics still consist of a significant number of non-Whites, so for them to overrepresent even a small group that resides within a White nation, they can identify as something that utterly detests White people and culture, such as inceldom.

>The UK About 70 percent IIRC
The UK still has a large number of non-Whites. London is currently 40% White, and has a sizable community of incels who are a bunch of Pakistanis. It doesn't matter how large the majority is everywhere else. Most Tate fans/disenfranchise men are from big cities such as London anyway, so your point is moot.

>"Incels" are not a non white exclusive or even non-white majority phenomenon
>I would argue that most are in fact White
The vast majority of incels are not White. Even amongst the ones who identify as "White", just like how spics identify as White even though they're actually happas or spics. Not to forget that incels hate White people just as much as Jews do. You're conflating issues within the modern West, and because of how anti-White it currently is, you conclude that all the men who can't get laid must be White just because the current demographics within White nations are majority White, even though statistics attest to this. You're trying to make Inceldom and Tate bigger than they actually are. You are a faggot.

https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/news/incels-are-not-particularly-right-wing-or-white-but-they-are-extremely-depressed-anxious-and-lonely-according-to-new-research
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/


>If you can do nothing but argue blatant falsehoods
<makes half-assed assumptions with no basis in reality
<doesn't establish on how he could be right, just probabilities and assumptions
<tries to argue his hardest that he is totally huwhite, and that many of us are broken men just because he is
If you couldn't cope harder.

>you do not belong on this board
And yet you are the BO of this board and argue like a dishonest retard.
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Napoleon is overrated and shouldn't really be celebrated or admired.
>was a freemason
>got his all of his brothers appointed into freemason officies
>jewish descendant
>emancipated Jews
>his 1810 Penal Code excluded sodomy and incest as crimes
>wars lead to the death of millions of Whites
>wars depopulated so many Whites that his government had to force rural folk to reside within many of France's cities
>much of his actions have generally lead to rapid urbanization
>accelerated the rise of liberalism and Zionism throughout Europe

I have even seen National Socialists and fascist alike give this man high-praise. Even if you see him as a symbol of power, then know that his power has devastated Europe and her children than it did elevate them.
 
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>>1806
The problem with monarchism is that it is no longer necessary to have a hierarchy. Now, it is purely aesthetic and more about celebrity worship than having a band of leaders lead and guide the folk onto a proper path. A state that practices natural law seems to be enough.
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>>2605
Hierarchy is always necessary, and always has been, and always will be do not presume the technology we have now(which has made hierarchy less important but it still exists) will last long, if we but lose power, instantly mid 1850's and almost nobody has manual water pumps these days, and we don't have many that understand or would even know how to do any of that, besides the Amish, and maybe not even them.
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>>2609
>Hierarchy is always necessary, and always has been,
But where did I say that it wasn't? I simply stated that monarchism and hierarchy are not inseparable.
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Yeah, I heard about him being a Freemason, although I never would have thought that he was possibly Jewish. I've been hearing right-wingers cope hard about how he was a superior leader than Hitler, even though he caused many radical revolutions to spread across Europe along with the decline of monarchism. Unlike Napoleon, Hitler was an advocate of aristocracy and established his state to function like a monarchy, but this is not enough for traditionalists because muh Bavaria. Napoleon being seen as a symbol of European power and greatness is a cathcuck's delusion. What's even worse is that some of them even believe he was a traditionalist, despite evidence to the contrary. For instance, the Napoleonic Codes literally killed what was left of what modern scholars perceive as "feudalism," and Bonapartism is about working a state in the way of Caesar, where a popular leader holds absolute power based on popular support rather than obtaining approval from the State of the Church. How is any of this traditional or even remotely right-wing? I find it funny how some RW-tards and christcucks are willing to worship a literal Freemason liberal atheist over pagan leaders. He never wanted, nor did he ever reverse, the ill-effects of liberalism and secularism within France, no matter how much they verbally fellate him.
I personally think that modernism and futurism are irreconcilable with any kind of identity politics, whatever the race.
We are now technologically capable of gene editing and cloning, which means that the Übermensch can be reached without the white race, or any race in particular. We are now capable of creating augmented humans, and we will be soon capable of creating a different species that is superior in every way to us.
When this is taken into consideration, the supremacy of the whites over the blacks, or even of man in general over the apes seems like nothing really important.
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>>2643
>I personally think that modernism and futurism are irreconcilable with any kind of identity politics, whatever the race.
What you describe is transhumanism, and no, the Übermensch cannot be created through that method, as it is a tripartite state, it is Supremacy of Body, of Mind and Will, and of the Spirit, to edit ones own self, or to be edited outside of the bounds of nature as in those actions man could take that we have been able to take, with however much effort, with our natural capabilities since the dawn of our race. Your idea defeats the purpose entirely, and you're wrong anyway.
 The lesser races can't use the gene editing on their own and would have a probably impossible task in doing so if done without the Aryan race as fodder for their own advancement and/or slaves with which to operate the tools to do so. The only other races that could even hope to do that is the East Asian, and the jew, neither of which care what damage they could wreak in doing so, and the technology isn't capable of half of what you described yet, they've only just begun doing things like editing hair color, eye color etc. they don't even have a complete understanding of the human genome, we still don't know the full function of the appendix aside from some seemingly ancillary immune functions etc, any real editing cannot be done or they could unleash viruses and completely unknown diseases, that might just kill all but these fictional supermen of yours, and leave a genetically unstable and not viable population of  "humans" on the planet.
Take removing cancer from the gene pool as an example, we do not know why cancer itself developed, what if by removing it from future generations of our race just makes something far more dangerous appear? What if  making us all equally intelligent and super strong enables a vulnerablilty we couldn't foresee to a common microbe, they cannot account for any of this and so they're toying with things entirely superficial and thats what it will remain for a century or more, provided this entire society remains stable enough for them to even begin research into that.
This global society and the technology involved in this will not last much longer at any rate so you can take it into consideration if you wish, but know that every conclusion you have is based on ignorance, arrogance, and faulty reasoning.
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>>2644
I understand your argument, and I mostly agree with it but
>This global society and the technology involved in this will not last much longer at any rate so you can take it into consideration if you wish
Is simply false; should the West fall to racial degeneration, the East would continue to develop scientifically and technologically. This gene editing business, whenever it is good or not, will very probably happen in the future, even if the West collapses.
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>>2645
You are overestimating man's ability to create life in his own image, our understanding of the human body is inadequate to cure even simple diseases, how could we be expected to modify a system we do not understand? When man does learn enough about biology to change genes with intent, what he sees as superior and inferior, desirable and undesirable, will be influenced by his own genetic makeup, meaning that the oriental's conception of the Übermensch may be antithetical to what the White's conception of it is. An already existent creature will need to be used as the base for the Übermensch, and building from different bases will create very different results.
>>2645
>the East would continue to develop scientifically and technologically.
No, it won't China is on the verge of collapse, their fucking dam that will kill millions if it breaks is near collapse and you think Japan or Korea could keep going when all the shit they do have farmed out to china through the west is just gone? If and when America falls, so will the east, so will Europe, the world is too interconnected if one domino goes, the rest begin to follow not long thereafter.
>>2643
>We are now technologically capable of gene editing and cloning
No, we aren't. Gene editing and cloning are fundamentally flawed as ideas or concepts, and the procedure for them mostly leads to failure. And don't even think about bringing up some article that claims a bunch of Chinese scientists made "breakthroughs", The CCP and media purposely lie about their technological advancements when in reality they haven't done anything. Disinformation is part of the war itself, which China is currently waging against the United States. We have neither the technology nor the ability to do such things, and knowing the drastic decline in science, such accomplishments will never reach anywhere other than science fiction.
Deeply heretical opinion here;
I am not opposed to democracy. 
Hear me out first. The American elites are morally corrupt traitors. Had America been a feudal aristocracy, we would still be in a similar situation because we are ruled by filth.
Yet I am reasonably well integrated in my community. I know all my neighbors and many important people throughout my rural town. 3 out of 5 of my immediate neighbors are racially aware to one degree of another. Of the two who are not, one is a boomer conservative with boomer conservative ideas. The other is a gross wigger family with mixed children. 
Despite the wigger family, I'm pretty well surrounded by sane & normal people.
Down the road lives a man who I think posts on /pol/ and constantly talks about jews and niggers.
Next to him lives a conservative family who hate the government. There are Trump flags everywhere and, yes I know I know, Trump is not a White nationalist but it's a hell of a lot better than Kamala & faggot flags. A huge majority of people here are either racially aware to one degree or another or boomer conservatives.

My point here is that the normal, working class people of America are infinitely morally superior to the aristocracy of globalist elites. If I had a choice between living under a randomly selected globalist or a randomly selected working class person, I would choose the latter & I suspect you would too.
Normal people don't like open borders, niggers, trannies, and faggots.
Do they know about jews? Most of them don't but the elites DO know about jews and yet they choose to submit themselves to them and betray their race.

So again, normal people are morally superior to the elites
Do you dispute this? 

Given this fact, answer; If America had been a direct democracy in 1965, would the open borders immigration bill have been passed?
Given the fact that in 1943, 90% of Americans agreed with segregation, I think not.
If America had been a direct democracy, would trannies be allowed in girls bathrooms? I think not.
If America had been a direct democracy, would jews wield power at all?
Would America be driven by party politics? Would we have had desegregation?
I think not.

>But what about jews??
America is an oligarchy already and yet jews wield near total power. 
>But muh aristocracy means rule by the best, which means people who agree with me!
Okay, well, if everyone agreed with you, then direct democracy would also produce results that you agree with too. If you get to magically cause all elites to agree with you, I get to magically cause all people to agree with you too.
>But muh people are stupid!
Okay, well, the elites are traitors. I'd rather have moral dumb people rule than immoral smart people. And frankly, I don't think the elites are that much smarter than you or I.
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Integralism =/= Fascism.
>What is the difference between Integralism and Fascism?
Integralists: Church > State
Fascists: State > Church
>Therefore, it was a necessity for the Fascist State to recognize the religious authority of the Church; a political necessity, a political recognition, with respect to the realization of the State itself.
>The ecclesiastical politics of the Italian State must resolve the problem of maintaining its sovereignty, intact and absolute, even before the Church, without casting itself athwart the Catholic consciousness of Italians, nor the Church to which that consciousness is subordinated. 
>That is a grave problem, since the transcedent conception that rules over the Catholic Church contradicts the immanentist character of the political conception of Fascism.
>The authority of the State is not subject to negotiation, or promise, or to divide its terrain with other moral or religious principles that might interfere in consciousness. The authority of the State has force and is true authority if, within consciousness, it is entirely unconditioned. The consciousness that actuates the reality of the State is consciousness in its totality, with all the elements of which it is the product.
>Morality and religion, essential elements in every consciousness, must be there, but they must be subordinated to the laws of the State, fused in it, absorbed in it.
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I was of the opinion that imageboards declined a lot because of shitskins, but after seeing lolcows like this one the hate the fact that some white anons are getting married and having kids while all he has in his life is his blacked folder and the MGTOW "redpill" made me reconsider that idea.
#1: I detest Pastoralism.
Not because I hate nature/environmentalism, or I hate homesteading, or I hate people trying to be more productive & survivalist / doomsday preppers for any systematic failures or catastrophe. 
It is the anarchist gospel it preaches. This gateway drug to anarchism. It pretends man can go innawoods and effectively be an island unto himself.
It pretends that the tools, seeds, cattle, furnishing, technology & equipment, property, & materials would all be there without fellowship within the citizenry, and even more that there can be concord or a community of goods (commonwealth) without political unity, laws, rulers / leadership, and their fellow man helping to setting the foundation for all the aforementioned things to sprout and flourish.

#2. Traditionalism vs modernity paradigm is extremely narrow-minded fixation.
It's a gross over-simplification. Blinds people to many valid points. The majority of content the traditionalists consume tends to be far from Medieval in both age and inner content, but still contend everything should be held to this standard anyways. I almost feel these people don't know the depths of what they want, or comprehend how different things would really be if they got their way.
Most people have been swept with the tide. Yet I think most of these people actually have more "modern" tastes than they'd initially think. I like to think if these people were confronted with the consequences of this, they'd be less uncritical and re-evaluate a few things.
>>30
>i don't want to exterminate any race on earth, no matter how annoying/subversive they may be. i just want them all to go back to where they came from
>only thinks geographically
>>5421
Just make it so king = state, king = law and king = church.
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To place integralism over fascism is effectively to sap fascism of all the characteristics that make fascism fascist.
A lot of traditionalists / conservatives like fascism, its aesthetic and action-based movement, and political participation.
They like the blackshirts and brownshirts, their activism, their bulwark against communism, their orderliness and ambitions, their leadership structure, their concern for everyday affairs and political issues.
But these traditionalists / conservatives condemn the immanentism of Actual Idealism, the active element which interacts with the world, the fascist concept of life that instills ideals into the fabric of everyday life, and is the basis of the totalitarianism and statism.
You wouldn't have all the above, the blackshirts and brownshirts, their activism, their bulwark against communism, their orderliness and ambitions, their leadership structure, their concern for everyday affairs and political participation, and totalitarianism without the fascist concept of life and immanentism and Actual Idealism.
The conservatives and traditionalists hate the statism and merging of these ideals with politics / statehood. They stick their noses up and say that there are ideals more worthy of perfection of the State and appeal to transcending these.
Which instead leads to apathy, it makes the conservative remote and isolated, it makes him disregard the perfection of political bodies / nations for another world, and makes them like a synagogue or ivory tower overlooking the legitimate secular affairs with contempt and stuckup noses, and only deeming Church the only community that truly matters, the heritage and inheritance of these nations in this temporal world and their perfection is secondary and ultimately not important.
It's one or the other.
Embrace Fascism or return to apathetic and cobbled  views of the traditionalists who regard this life as dust in the wind.

>>5557
>king = state, king = law and king = church.
Catholics don't consider worldly kings to be a spiritual authority, but merely secular & temporal concerned primarily with the political domain.
If you mean, that 
>king = state
>king = law
>king = church
I don't think integralists would accept it.
Unless you mean
>king = state
>king = law and king (christ) = church
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Even if Actual Idealism failed in its mission, I think it should be lauded and praised for trying to round up and effectively eliminate everything holding back much of the rightwing today thanks to conservatism:
>their blanket, half-hearted appeal to moralism, but total apathy for political order as secularism & thereby failing to instill such a moral order in the public with the structural integrity coherent in political order (secularism)
>the synagogue mentality of ultra-clericalism, that views the Church in juxaposition to the rest of society the State, dividing ideal from the realization of the State (which was always the intended goal, but finally was misconstrued away from our political benefit for a separate society)
>all the history of great heroes, legends, and story of our peoples in this world are merely an inconsequential footnotes in the greater story of the Bible; the story of nations today would pale in comparison to the Church and the world to come; the only worthy moments were the Crusades, unattached to the plight of people back home, but totally divested in going to a foreign land as the Holy Land. This view saps all the drama and interesting history and humanity and life in the world today, but it is the ultimate conclusion of conservatism.
Actual Idealism & Fascism tried to remedy most of these problems in a single slash. Yet this continues to be a plight of right-wing conservatism. 
If Actual Idealism & Fascism failed, somebody needs to carry its torch.
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>>5564
>Actual Idealism
I'm all ears out, what is it exactly?
>Catholics don't consider worldly kings to be a spiritual authority, but merely secular & temporal concerned primarily with the political domain.
I despise the Christian worldview. Ancient glorious Roman emperors were central to the faith. Pharaohs who lived millennia ago were the embodiement of divinity made man, law power and faith.
What a sadness that humans in this modern world cannot see things that way and even think according to these principles. They are so materialist and blind, so convinced that the divine cannot be part of the world, a typically Abrahamic tenet. An entire construct such as the Jesus mythos is nothing more than pure gatekeeping in the hands of the Church or any other mainline Christian authority.
>right-wing conservatism.
Is a disease. We cannot write new fables, we cannot praise new heroes and divinely inspired figures, we cannot be at the heart of new epics. We are forever glued to the Bible and constanly weighed down by its containing and constraining story. The Church is a roadblock towards Greatness. It needs to be removed.
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>>5566
>I'm all ears out, what is it exactly?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actual_idealism
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>Actual idealism is a form of idealism, developed by Giovanni Gentile, that grew into a "grounded" idealism, contrasting the transcendental idealism of Immanuel Kant, and the absolute idealism of G. W. F. Hegel. To Gentile, who considered himself the "philosopher of fascism" while simultaneously describing himself as liberal and socialist
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>Actual idealism holds that it is the act of thinking as perception, not creative thought as imagination, which defines reality. Therefore, one idea, or another, can only be a formulation of particulars within the bounds of a known totality, in which one idea is not on any side of those particulars. Totality constituting the whole cohesive reality is negated in such idea by itself. Integration of totality against idea, in appealing to oneself, is the sole fruitful means of idea, which poses no favoritism to the developed ideas giving a knowing precedence to the world it has created itself into. Anything less is a presupposition and therefore innately unreal. This totality is the act of thinking, not thoughts so regarded by thinking. 
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>Since the divine is immanent to the human, even on the ethical level, the spirit must be affirmed not as an empty universality that suppresses individuality, but as the concrete overcoming of particular interests in a superior ethics that includes them all and at the same time realizes them. 
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>The State is conceived by Gentile as a living organism in which individuals express themselves and discover their raison d'être; a state that does not set itself as a fixed and binding goal, but understood dynamically as a constant process of integration and renewal of spiritual life, as Gentile saw embodied by fascism.
most boring thread award
>>5573
Where's BO?
Delete this filth.
Cannot even report it because of the absolute dogshit captcha.
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>>5573
Awww is the nigger mad?
>>10 (OP) 
/fascist/ has veered far from it's original purpose, the discussion of the third position. For a board named /fascist/ there is alot of /natsoc/ teir posts. Not to mention the hostility of the /natsoc/ crowd against anything other than pure /natsoc/. Not to mention the amendment of the sixth and eighth rule which occurred on cafe, which diluted discussions into cookie cutter rightwing slop.

inb4 fed
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>>5871
Is the goal to fracture ourselves into mutually denouncing ideological sects? Or is the goal to promote the interests of our race?
I was under the impression that Fascism and National Socialism are not opposed ideologies but merely different expressions of the same desire for White survival.
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>>6167
you are correct.
read DVX by Iron March (it can still be found on frenschan library AFAIAW)
but what’s important is what modern “fascists” do and are. Which 99% of the time means “””Third Positionist””” “Ein Place for every race!” nigger-loving “repatriation” cowardry. This is a well-known phenomenon where retarded post-Rockwell ANP-tier alt-liter nationalists grovel at the feet of non-whites about how much they’d love for them to go back to their own kind’s mud huts just because they’re utterly spineless bullet-bait that doesn’t want to be called “-ist” or “-phobic” by dyed-hair antifa landwhales and they’re terrified of the Beast System.

>Not to mention the amendment of the sixth and eighth rule which occurred on cafe

wat is blud yapping about💀
lil bro has nonathat rizz🗣️🗣️🔊
blud reads rules on 3PPD imageboards💀💀💀💀💀 blud is from ohio (those who know:)

>which diluted discussions into cookie cutter rightwing slop.

why don’t we just have a “to hell with the right wing!” blanket rule where orlog posts the IP of AfD-supporters alongside their ohiocore post so we can doxx them

>/fascist/ has veered far from it's original purpose, the discussion of the third position. For a board named /fascist/ there is alot of /natsoc/ teir posts. Not to mention the hostility of the /natsoc/ crowd against anything other than pure /natsoc/
blud got his 3PPD slop hobby-replacement altchan board colonised by the fourth reich💀💀💀💀💀💀 (those who know:)
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>>6171
I doubt that 99% of fascists grovel at the feet of non-Whites.
Regarding remigration, that is the most realistic way to solve the non-White problem. Given the fact that non-Whites are squatting on our land, repatriation is a major step up.
And I do not give a shit about what they do in India or Brazil.
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>>6173
this soggy faggot doesn’t even want Total Non-white Death
how absolutely embarrassing
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>>5871
It's true. But when it comes to other topics like economics and environmentalism this place sticks to fascism. And if you think natsoc is taking too much space here I'm sure you will agree that some kind of White Fascism can be seen as a perfect subgenre of fascism. I doubt there are any non-Whites posting here. No regrets, it's better this way. Show me how many times have non-Whites done anything substantial in favor of Whites. Besides, who frankly cares? Fascism is a White invention anyway.
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>>6176
I don't care about your revenge fantasy.
I care about White survival.
>>6179
Non-whites vvill be wiped off the face of the earth like the inferior filth they are.
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>>6189
Maybe in the far future but there obviously are much more important things to achieve right now, such as purging our own countries, eliminating the traitors and establishing a New White Order.
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>>6657
truthnuke
National Socialism doesn't belong to the far right, it is not of the far right. Period.
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>>7376
the "far right" doesn't exist, it's just a System boogeyman for fat skinheads and generation identity cowards marching (scary!). The supposed "far right" can and do hate each other, if they're not directly eviscerating each other, of course the System doesn't care about the contradictions of the "farr right" simulatenously "rising" as petty "nationalist" tommy robinsonites and being a few post-skinhead outcasts, oh yeah also o9a AWD Terrorgram ultraterrorists because of course it doesn't.
Such a hilarious Systemite term, literally on a level with "islamophobia" "rape culture" or "climate change"
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>>7379
>rape culture
Still true when applied to niggers and pakis.
>>7376
Let's examine this logically (and we will presume the existence of the left-right paradigm as legitimate, even though it's obviously not)
There is a left and a right. Something goes on the far left and something goes on the far right.
Whatever is most common for mankind in general must be in the center since that's the definition of moderate.

Throughout all of human history and even today, the vast, vast, vast, vast to the point of 99.9999999999999% of humans ever to exist were deeply nationalistic. To the point where it superseded all other identities, including religion (I will justify this if it is not obvious)
Given this fact, nationalism is the most moderate ideal you can hold. Calling it far right is like calling having children a "far right ideology" (which, incidentally, is almost the case today)

So that's nationalism. What about 'socialism?'
In the context of National Socialism, the social aspect is downstream from nationalism. ie, we are a body, a Folk, and we exist as a people. Like a family. We all owe each other support so we can create a greater society. 
Is this an extreme? No. Again, something like 99.99999999999% of humans who have existed on earth thought this way. So, once again, the social aspect of NS is moderate.

What about the most 'extreme' element of all? Our criticism of jews and hostility toward them? Once again, we will examine the historical context: Throughout history, all societies who have encountered the jew have responded first with acceptance and then with deep hostility once the jew reveals himself for what he is: an exploiter, a subversive, and an existential enemy.
Therefore, hostility to jews is, once again, moderate.

Therefore, National Socialism is, by definition, a very moderate position.
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>>7495
once again, something people seem to forget, and shoot NS in the foot when they do, is that you can be FANATICAL, but that doesn't make your ideology extreeeeeeme.
"Extreeeeemism" is used to denote ideologies which threaten the System and business-as-usual, thus when communism was a threat, communist leagues where "extreeeeeemist".
Calling yourself "extreeeeemist" proudly is a non sequitir, and using Systemite terms on yourself; really odd, like proclaiming yourself a goy, transphobe or racist. It is an embarassment.
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>>8000
Meaningless post.
There are no third positionists in power anywhere in the West.
As a matter of a fact, ((( liberal ))) western countries have regulations in place that render third position policies illegal to implement (UE regulations is the bigger example).
Nice numeral though.
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>>8012
*are illegal
>>8012
>pic
And it has the usual subversion of trying to distill and pass Shintō as a cringe globalist religion when it's actually a set of local traditions and beliefs exclusive to one nation.
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>>8015
the female "graphic design" college graduate that made this propaganda knows literally nothing about Shinto, just that it came up when she searched "biggest religions"
The nazis were a junta that forced its way onto the Germans.
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Bette Midler actually made some pretty good songs.
>>8068
I disagree. The Germans voted for them and, upon taking power, there was no anti-Nazi movement despite censorship being relatively light, on par with the UK.
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>>8068
No they weren't? They were elected to power and gathered legitimate support from Germans of all classes after the election. The German people did not like Weimar and were getting tired of it which is one of the reason the NSDAP came into power. Uncle A never needed nor installed a junta.
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>>8071
>>8085
>b-but they vooted
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>>8099
Yes. Popular support.
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>>8106
>validated by a system that the Jews forced onto Central Europe
Something was impure.
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>>8128
What the fuck are you talking about? Stop being subversive. Speak plainly, as if you were White.
Any job should pay a salary you can live on. Just because leftists say this doesn't mean it's untrue. An honest day’s work for an honest day’s pay.
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>>8250
I thought everyone accepted this. 
There is a strong statist argument for minimum wages, based on national industrial output. And the socialists argument for minimum wages and employment conditions is waved around a lot by Marxists but is hardly a Marxist idea.
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>>8068
Given the NSDAP was a minority party within the reichstag, and seized power from the right wing government he was a part of there's a strong basis for view the nazis were a junta.
But we are fascists, we like juntas, we like Hitler, the Germans liked hitler. Hitler's Junta saved the whole of Europe. 

Sure you can say that the Germans would have preferred the NSDAP stayed a minority within German government and Hitler just became minister for national industry or something, but Germany needed a dictator, and while a minor figure in the rechstag as a single man Hitler was the only one capable of accepting such a task. The furherprincip was long established in the NSDAP, Hitlers own supporters wanted him as dictator, and so Hitler was in every sense primed to assume the role of dictator while the other members of the German civilian government were not.

Once Hitler had installed himself there was less, rather than more opposition to the German government, mostly because Hitler untangled a whole lot of regional separatism and local political dysfunction
All those histrionic news articles about how AI keeps getting scrapped because being exposed to enough information turns it antisemitic is pure derad propaganda to make Whites in the process of radicalizing more accepting of AI garbage. If they actually feared their pet AI becoming the next Hitler they'd scuttle the whole thing and never breathe a word of it to anyone lest some bad goy get ideas.
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>>8250
>>8549
I would go even further and say socialist (NOT communist) economic policies are ideal. The aversion to socialism on the right is explained by unchallenged liberalism and individualism. The economy should serve a folk and their culture and not the other way around.
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>>8646
I concur.
Capitalism is dysgenic.
Even if there were no jews, capitalism encourages open borders and race destruction.
On the one hand, open borders means cheap labor.
On the other hand, capitalism seeks an open market. Race, traditions, localism, etc are all barriers to profit.
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>>8646
The entire Left-Right dichotomy is a false one, a rhetorical sleigh of hand intended to split Whites on issues so they're at odds instead of working together. The "Left" arrogates itself worker's rights and public healthcare but it also insists on infinite nigger welfare and infinite shitskin migration. Meanwhile the "Right" promises to slash welfare and stop immigration (what it does in reality is irrelevant, I'm talking about what each side presents as) but it also wants you to suck corporate boot forever and agree to grueling work hours with no benefits and pay increasingly abusive insurance premiums not to die of preventable conditions. This is at its most glaring in the USA with its bipartisan system, but having a plurality of political parties doesn't mean squat because all the different blocks promise different positive things but also force them to agree to toxic dysgenic shit as part of the package, diluting any impetus to effect any actual positive change. To say nothing of all the political alliances and deals parties make with each other to get their pet legislations rubber-stamped, which of course dilute political action even more. And of course, we've all seen what happened with AfD, if a party seems like it's actually going to do something for the people of the nation all the others form a truce to ((( shut it down ))) no matter how much they pretended to hate each other before. This is why regulat politics is a waste of time, you don't try to play a game that is rigged at every turn, you kick the board off the table.
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>>8648
>Even if there were no jews, capitalism encourages open borders and race destruction.
I don't think there would be any capitalism without Jews. Idiots think it's just about making money but the Jews know it's a destructive tool and they're crafty enough to know when not to apply it to themselves, because they put their own interests and people first. Capitalism, like communism, is for the people they hate. They're global-nationalists.
>>8631
Whether it's true or not, we won't be saved by AIs anyway. All the good work online is done by humans. Less machines will soon be viewed as better.
>>8649
That's pretty much a known fact, not an unpopular opinion.
The racial spectrum is simple, you either have to support the numerous crappy migrants (niggers, latrinos, dog eaters, pajeets, dog eaters, etc.) or the top migrants (Jews and the cleverly filtered goys).
In both cases the Whites' interests are never defended.

We cannot be pro-White if we are not anti-Jew.
Since technology seems to unavoidably slide into robots, AI and world grids ---- niggers really are the wisest of all. Kill rape eat, no need for technology to do that.
https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/18/in-extremis-veritas/
>For capitalism's philosophers, free markets and free labor weren't just a source of profits, they were also a source of virtue. Capitalists – unlike lords – had to worry about competition from one another. They had to make better goods at lower prices, lest their customers take their business elsewhere; and they had to offer higher pay and better conditions, lest their "free labor" take a job elsewhere.
rent free
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>>8849
That's not how it works in practice and also, lords absolutely did compete with each other.
Furthermore, my priority isn't increasing the profits of a class of rootless, parasitic overlords. They can burn in hell for their treason. I merely want a nice world for White people to live in.
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Only unpopular for Sinead and her simp, they will probably get along very well with this cringe couple:
https://x.com/EuropaSonW14
https://x.com/Grace_OMalley_2
Typically she wants to be the princess, the queen, and owe no sex whatsoever to EuropeSimpIQ14. That's how you can get no-sex marriage legalized btw if you're not careful enough.
Imagine their reaction to this
https://x.com/ItIsHoeMath/status/1909456186648481796
The Simps were literally shocked over the manly reaction to a literal giga-feminist post stating that masculine lust should be turned off for the sake of improving our society. It's so retarded that you'd think it's a trolling post but no, it's just pure distilled vagenean nonsense.
https://x.com/RealDianeYap/status/1909306718955376728

Rereading Himmler's speech on lust and work relations should open some eyes.
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>>8951
>go to the salon my men
Literally be a fag, the solution.
Written by that same would-be queen. Soon you'll find out that she's a money domme on onlyfans or some shit like that. The original mindset is about the same.
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So she objects to women being kept out of politics but refuses that women could be held responsible? Typical ovarian cognitive dissonance.
Oh and she wants knights and kings but can't be bothered to understand that women pretty much kept their mouth shut back then.
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>>8952
>saloons are gay
nazicels believe this.
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>>8099
>>8128
You do know that Europe 100 years back didn't have the same "democratic" system like we have in this day and age? You're trying to sound clever or witty, but you just come off as really retarded. 

>>8993
>Images for ants
>everyone is one person 
I don't agree with him, and obviously he's full of shit. It's just more typical retarded /pol/-tier talk from asocial retards who do not know what they're talking about.
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>Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.
http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1174
>Hitler had Jewish roots, DNA tests show.
>Adolf Hitler is likely to have had Jewish or African roots, DNA tests have shown.
>When outraged German generals demanded to know why they were being prevented from forcing the complete surrender of the defeated armies, the Jew Hitler prattled on about his admiration for the British Empire and its importance as an essential element of world stability. Hitler did not explain why it was so important to let the hundreds of thousands of troops escape immediately, rather than say, to capture them, and later release them after having extracting various concessions. Indeed, how could he? This incident alone, should have given Hitler away as the enemy, however, the Germans, naive to such monumental deception, kept obeying orders, and in the end, it was only thought that Hitler was insane.
>German aircraft had hit Allied air bases in France, Luxembourg, Belgium, and the Netherlands, destroying large numbers of planes on the ground, and crippling air defenses. Although large numbers of planes had been lost, the evacuation at Dunkirk enabled most of the British pilots, who had been based in France, to escape and fight another day. In fact, the number of planes lost, turned out to be much less important than the number of pilots, and potential pilots, that Hitler had rescued.
>Although, Britain was now open and defenseless, the Jew Hitler refused to attack.
>The Jew Hitler refused to even feign an attack on Britain, in order to draw the British navy to the channel, where it could be obliterated by aircraft.
>So, after refusing to take out Jew controlled Britain, the Jew Hitler attacks the Soviet Union, deliberately setting up the dreaded two-front war.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=62
>Adolf Hitler may have had Jewish and African roots, DNA tests have shown.
>Saliva samples taken from 39 relatives of the Nazi leader show he may have had biological links to Jews.
>Jean-Paul Mulders, a Belgian journalist, and Marc Vermeeren, a historian, tracked down the Fuhrer's relatives, including an Austrian farmer who was his cousin, earlier this year.
>A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in their samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews.
>"One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised," Mr Mulders wrote in the Belgian magazine, Knack.
>Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.
>Knack, which published the findings, says the DNA was tested under stringent laboratory conditions.
>"This is a surprising result," said Ronny Decorte, a genetic specialist at the Catholic University of Leuven.
>"The affair is fascinating if one compares it with the conception of the world of the Nazis, in which race and blood was central.
>"Hitler's concern over his descent was not unjustified. He was apparently not "pure" or 'Ayran'."
>It is not the first time that historians have suggested Hitler had Jewish ancestry.
>His father, Alois, is thought to have been the illegitimate offspring of a maid called Maria Schickelgruber and a 19-year-old Jewish man called Frankenberger.
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>>8993
>pretty haircuts and not violence will allow men to reclaim their lands and women
What a fag. There's a difference between having a decent personal hygiene and going to a fucking salon to get
>cosmetic enhancements
>hair replacements
You're a simp as you accept such ridiculous rules dictated by women. Go dilate for her now.
>>9040
I always wondered if Hitler was a jewish psyop needed for the creation of the state of Israel. It is all fitting together now.
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>>9042
That's retarded, anon.
This is like you getting robbed and me saying that you were in cahoots with the robber so as to justify landing him in prison.
Why are you so low IQ?
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>>9052
>Oy vey!
Hello, JIDF!
>>9008
>You do know that Europe 100 years back didn't have the same "democratic" system like we have in this day and age?
You do know that you don't know anything, right?
The voting system in 1920-30 sucked just as much as it does today. Jews were everywhere, degenerates too, and they controlled many banks and medias. Radical parties were only doing wonders, all things considered, because the situation was terrible, the Great Depression had done its thing, and a lot of Germans wanted freedom and vengeance. Do you even know that the NSDAP didn't even get the absolute majority? That there were countless Germans who rejected this party and its coalition with the stiff conservatives who even if much less numerous, proved essential to the Third Reich's final ascension along several center factions through the validation of the Enabling Act, following clear repeated acts of violence against the socialist and left-wing opposition? And that was when Germany was perhaps 97-99% German! Let's face it, a lot of people are dumb and democracy sucks. Excuse me? that's too grim for you perhaps? Oh look at you, now you're crying.
>>9042
Had Germany won, there would have not been such a state and the whole Balfour fraud would have been exposed for what it was since England had no legitimate authority over those lands.
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How entertaining. All the replies, in copious quantities as they come, almost to a prophetic degree make his statement to be utmost correct. They so often betray an epidermic reaction exclusive to the forgettable individual whom cannot but reply with the most boring and expected of all platitudes, that of an appeal to equality beyond implicit that them, blind as ever, they are cannot with much irony come to notice. So there they say, with such a consuming and prideful outrage, that no one shall have the right to make such a decision and deem oneself higher than others. As soon as a fleeting sense of superiority assails their fragile senses they can only conceive of grabbing the buoyant one and drag him back into the morass of the irate mass. Yet wise people know differently, that there is no equality in men, all of them born according to specific sets of abilities and destinies.

TL;DR
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE U SO EVIL
They be malding.
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>>9105
There a way to read threads without having to make an account?
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I don't like the SPQR/Romans and I don't like how casually our people brush aside Gaulicide.
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>>9119
I agree with anon.
It's not just the ethnic cleansing. Rome was a really cool empire, but the end result of it and all empires was a multi-ethnic state with weakening self perception of who they are. Citizenship was eventually granted to everyone and the elites constantly tried to erase or assimilate other cultures in Europe. We lost an incredible amount of culture because of Rome and because of it, now "Roman culture" is the only thing that survives in popular imagination.
Furthermore, from a particularist perspective, Christianity was just as bad for European distinctiveness if not worse due to its universalist, anti-racial doctrine. The Roman empire was the key factor in facilitating the spread of Christianity and, by extension, the spread of jews across Europe. Before Christianity and before empire, there were zero jews in Gaul, Germania, Scandinavia, Britain, etc. Empire man bad.
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>>9107
Yeah, try replacing x.com with nitter.poast.org, the front end circumvents the barrier hopefully but it's unsure to load perfectly. They all have their issues. Some require reloading and if you're on TOR protocol, you may have to reroll the circuit.
greycoder.com/alternative-interfaces-to-twitter-that-are-currently-working-and-reasonably-fast  github.com/zedeus/nitter  twiiit.com  github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances
Niggers shouldn't be completely genocided, just kept separate from Whites. They could be useful for medical experimentation,target practice, live CQC training, and gladiatoral entertainment.
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>>9287
>Niggers shouldn't be completely genocided
This, niggers are braindead retarded but they sure as hell know how to fuck, my wife's yoga trainer once asked me if I'll allow him to rail my wife, I was hesitant, but my wife convinced me to let him fuck her. You won't believe it, ever since she hooked up with the yoga trainer, her mood and attitude has improved beyond belief, not to mention our sex life has drastically improved, every time she's done with her trainer, I get my turn. I can never ever have sex again without nigger cum reeking out of her loose hole. The sex is incredible.

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>>9288
Dear god, please be sarcasm.
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>>9287
Why would you use them for any of that? Then you could use robots to do better in 3 of your four suggestions. As for medical experimentation, it would not likely be applicable top whites our bodies work too differently, leading to niggers thinking whites get better medicine, because half the meds don't work for them and even if they do they definitely don't work as well.
>>9120
By the time of Julius Caesar it was already over. This mofo was one murderous cunning hyena who had ties with kikes and all his cool military tricks came from former generals. Killing Gauls and Germans who didn't want to be subdued by a multi-racial culture too proud of its big buildings? The hard-on Nationalists have for Rome is tiring. We always look into Rome went it was already over but nobody seemed to get it except those few who walked the streets and saw the unfit and filthy ones with their strange faces starting to take too much room while a few of them started to make their way to the top. Late Republic Rome was when things should have been stopped and reverted back to sanity. Which once again proves that it all boils down to race, so next time you want to make an empire, never bring things in, always move forward, kill or expel. Colonization by removal. Incidentally this is exactly what the Jews are doing right now, but they're the only ones able to afford doing it while it should be us, not them, who should once again spread. This is how we settled America. There is no reason to have pity for the vanquished.
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Leaving pure politics aside, here's a new one. More philosophical and certainly not devoid of any desire to trigger some sensibilities about what defines us, what makes creative minds superior to others, to give us a position to judge groups who merely copy, to see artists scream in agony, seeing the AI makes them ree. Well to me it's quite funny.

Man-AI made content is cool af
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>>9290
Sharkasm at this point.
>>9287
Oddly enough I almost long for such an "evil" empire now.
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>>9295
AIslop is soulless and an objective ontological  evil. Kill yourself.
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>>9294
>This mofo was one murderous cunning hyena who had ties with kikes 
Is this true? I genuinely want to know more on this subject if you have any info because Dr. Pierce once quipped that jews followed Caesar into Gaul but I wasn't able to find any further information on this.
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>>9298
If White people were as "evil" as jews say we are, no one would dare call us racist.

In otherwords:
>Hey conservatives! Tired of being called racist Nazis? Kill all the niggers and jews. Ironically, no one will ever call you a Nazi again.
>>9304
IIRC Klassen also said that he was on their payroll. I wouldn't be surprised one moment. I remember reading many years ago but where I couldn't tell about how when returning from Gaul, Julius went to the jews to thank them. It would go a long way to explain his absolute sadism in the way he dealt with some unions of tribes that simply refused to be swallowed by globo romo.
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I seriously hope you guys aren't stupid enough to  automatically believe unsourced accusations that one of the most important men in the history of Rome was somehow a Jew-lover.
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>>9308
I was obsessed with Caesar as a child and as far as I can recall, he borrowed a LOT of money. However, he tended to borrow from Roman aristocrats, and there is no mention of jewish bankers at this time. 
I just need more specific evidence before I can in good faith blame Caesar for the destruction of what I view as a cool civilization.

Vercingetorix was a Gallic nationalist and anyone who says that nationalism and ethnocentrism didn't exist before an arbitrary date is a complete retard.
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>>9301
AI is not even intelligence but just a more complex and evolved form of automatic tools you already use without even paying attention to them. There honestly are interesting surprises coming from prompts of various types but the real danger is becoming dependent on them or letting people abuse these advanced tools against you.
Also when it comes to art I rather enjoy the fact that it makes seethe large quantities of artists who are not really original and produce all their content on computers. Nearly all of them are leftists, some of them degenerates, so the culling that happens is refreshing in a way.
>>9309
>>9314
>evidence
Obviously. Considering the blinding respect nationalists have for Rome because they project their desires onto this problematic empire, they are not naturally enclined to go dig for aggravating elements, nor should we expect academics to ever touch anything that deals with Jews.
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>>9328
We have plenty of evidence for nefarious deeds in other areas and times. But even if they literally funded Caesar's conquests but then destroyed all the evidence, it would not be a good idea to espouse this lest someone look it up and see that it's baseless (even though we're assuming that it really did happen)
Harms credibility on things that we do have evidence for, such as the lies of the holocaust.
I'm not trying to drag this down, but I tend to stick only to subjects we have good evidence for when espousing our ideals.
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Tribal societies that have gone 100% uncontacted such as the Sentinelese should be left alone. It'd be a waste to genocide them when they're content to stick to their little piece of the world and are adamant about neither letting strangers in nor letting any of their tribe out. If anything we could study them from a distance, just as we always have.
Unpopular Opinion: Debating who we do and do not genocide when we lack the power to even change a school curriculum is cringe.
Personally, it just makes me realize how weak we are at the moment.
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>>9331
>I'm not trying to drag this down, but I tend to stick only to subjects we have good evidence for when espousing our ideals.
Fine.
>>9347
But we are secretly plotting in advance of the rise of our super empire and the creation of a secret order of radical killers who will make room for Whites. Sounds right?
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Nuclear bombs exist.
>>9352
> we are secretly plotting in advance of the rise of our super empire
I wish we devoted half the energy we spend on fantasizing how we're going to run the global super-empire on figuring out how we can get political control over just a small section of America or Europe instead.
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>>9363
>political
Retard. Killl yourself.
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>>9364
This is a semantic argument. Every event in the world can be called "political" within the right context, even outright war. "Politics" isn't just voting.
>>9364
As anon said, literally anything that affects power is political.
Hitler engaged in political acts. If you think I'm retarded, you really must hate Hitler.
>>9364
>triggered by the word political
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>There is no discussion of Christniggerism outside of the Anti Abraham thread, locked
Nice try janny, but I'm not worshipping Norse tranny gods, or any other pagan tranny gods for the record. Fuck off, kike janny.

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You guys weren't done embarrassing yourselves when you made all of /b/ hate you?
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>>9650
What happened with /b/? I wasn't around for it.
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>>9653
Nothing particularly worth mentioning, at least nothing that stuck out in my mind. They just kept making threads there and being annoying, also there used to be regular flame war threads on /b/ between them and atheists, especially a year or two after the exodus.
Personally, I found it pretty fun and a good break from all the d*scord lolcowterally who threads that were plaguing the board at the time, but I know that a lot of anons didn't.
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>>9654
Yeah, it has calmed down a lot but there is some schizo that creates a thread like every few weeks in a vain attempt to stir shit up again.
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>>9655
>some schizo that creates a thread like every few weeks in a vain attempt to stir shit up
Story of /b/.
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And heeeere we go.
https://x.com/miketheking1517/status/1932611152346849355
In order to attain final victory, we'll have to massacre over 90% of the world's population, and that will inevitably include millions upon millions of traitorous Whites. Cops, soldiers, government employees, judges, lawyers, politicians, journalists, political activists, businessmen, and so on. Those who perpretrated race-mixing, those who joined subversive NGOs, those who adopted non-White children, those who sold houses to non-Whites because it was more profitable than to sell to Whites, those who participated in charities favoring non-Whites. They will all have to face ultimate justice. I know it's a truly uncomfortable thought, but it's one every Fascist will have to confront, process and internalize. Without hardening the heart against misguided compassion, we will lose.
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Collateral damage is always acceptable.
>>9727
It does sound brutal but I think there's a possibility that we will get there.

>>9654
>/b/
>d*scord lolcowterally who
What's the difference with kiwifarms?
If the First Amendment seemed to be a good idea on paper, it has now become an integral part of the slow boiling process that cripples us. It's precisely because we believe we still can solve things by talking that we refuse to rely on action instead, too scared of appearing uncultured, uncivilized. But talk is cheap.
I have more faith in countries wherein Whites have lost most of their liberties.
Non-clandestine activism is worthless. Doesn't matter how many marches you attend or how many members your clearnet forum has, you'll never get anything meaningful done because you'll be too preoccupied with staying squeaky clean so as to not give the authorities an excuse to shut you down. And that's sometimes not enough, you can be as law-abiding as you want and they'll still arrest you, put you on a wtach list or freeze your assets. Take a good look at AfD.
Opticscucking is stupid, pointless, self-defeating. The masses only listen to the media, and the media will never give us a "fair shake", it will demonize us at every turn because we're the enemy of those who control the media. Normalfags only give a shit insofar as they parrot the viewpoint of those who are in power, we're not in power so even with objective evidence staring them in the face they will continue to parrot the jewish lies. Don't recruit from the masses, but from the enlightened free-thinking individuals, even if those are harder to find, and instead of hand-wringing over public image it's better to keep an eye on your local community's reactions. In short, don't count your enemies, but your friends.
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>>9920
>Don't recruit from the masses, but from the enlightened free-thinking individuals
Recruit to do what?
And how do we reach them?
And what about the fact that everyone is a lemming to one degree or another, including our own elites (I'm referring to elites among normal White people)
All of us would be far braver if we had a crowd to hide amongst. Even you.
This is not cowardice anymore than it is cowardice to stay with your warband in a battle. Those who stray off on their own tend to get obliterated.
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>>9922
>Recruit to do what?
Violent clandestine actions against the enemy. Sabotage, assassination, theft, the works. What else? No, really, where were you even going with this?

>And how do we reach them?
You start by recruiting locally from people you trust and have known for years. When you have a solid core group you send the most socially capable ones to potential recruiting grounds (gyms, sports clubs, the works) and discreetly scout for potential recruits, while running extensive background checks on every candidate. Screen out the feds, informants, blabbermouths, flakes, idiots and fatties right out the gate.

>And what about the fact that everyone is a lemming to one degree or another, including our own elites (I'm referring to elites among normal White people)
This sentence is empty air. What about it? Lemmings gonna lemming. Moving on.

>All of us would be far braver if we had a crowd to hide amongst. Even you.
It's not a matter of bravery. This isn't gettin da lads togetha ta go fer a scrap with Souf FC aftah da footie. It's a war for the very survival of our race.

>This is not cowardice anymore than it is cowardice to stay with your warband in a battle. Those who stray off on their own tend to get obliterated.
These statements are so unbelievably retarded. Look. Again. This isn't a tussle after footie, this is an asymmetrical war of extermination. Our countries are under military occupation by a hostile foreign power intent on wiping us out and has the full cooperation of the authorities. We're vastly outnumbered and outgunned, we're living in a nighmarish surveilance state to shame any fictional dystopia. It's a guerilla war and we have to stick to the shadows until the enemy's weakened enough to build proper armies and claim territory, anything else is ineffectual at best and suicidal at worst. 

Taking the above into consideration, what makes sense is to focus on quality rather than quantity. A cell of five skilled, determined Whites drilled in opsec and ideology will always be better than a crowd of a hundred hobbyists.
There's nothing morally wrong with slave labor. We're going to have to rely on it to one extent or another because we're so few and so badly outnumbered.
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>>10164
>We're going to have to rely on it to one extent or another
What could we possibly need slave labor for?
>>10167
Don't ruin his larp
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>>10167
>>10168
You faggots are always going on about muh sekrit base, like this idiot here >>10132 larping about "muh white Afghanistan" in the Alps. Do any of you neets have any idea just how much work goes into making even a simple basement? I wanna know how you're gonna convince the other tards in your epic fashy circlejerk to spend 16 hours a day digging tunnels, and forget about heavy equipment that would make it easier because you're not gonna have it. Even if they don't tell you to go fuck yourself they'll ruin their fucking spines because they're skinnyfat neets and digging is hard work, whoda fucking thunk. And it'll take ages just to make a moderately-sized basement if you have (I'm being generous) a dozen buddies. At least if you have a few dozen spics and a couple overseers with guns you'd make some headway. But keep on dreaming about muh huwhite ethnostate in the fucking Alps, you stupid fuck.
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>>10169
idk what is going on with the bunker thread. I don't get the purpose or how it benefits White people for a small number to build a bunker.
A White ethnostate in a mountainous area, on the other hand, has practical benefits and is technically feasible. 
But yes, it is unlikely. If we were serious, we'd be discussing how to gain control over town councils, not vague geographic regions.
>>10168
>using larp wrong episode 999999
He dresses up as a Nazi irl and whips people into submission?! GTFO!! Link to vid also? :DDDD
>>10167
Isn't this, like, a Fascist board wherin people talk about Fascists of whomst had, you know, slaves and such at x point? No? Minimum wage workers exist to this day!
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>>10164
That's true if and only if, the slaves are White, and will not contribute to the destruction of whatever nation may take them in, outside of that yes the morally wrong part is that shitskins should be killed, not enslaved.
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>>10173
>enslaving Whites
No. Besides, nobody said those shitskins should be enslaved long-term. Killing them as soon as they stop being useful should be fine.
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>>10172
Unless you consider POW being forced to work or the work camps the jews were in slavery, capital F Fascists never held slaves. Fascists were slave owners only insofar as the left calls everyone they don't like "fascist" in which case, southern plantation owners were "fascist"
As a fascist, my question to you is: Why the hell would we want niggers in our midst as slaves? Why not just kill them all and pay White people high wages to do hard work?
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<unless you count when they had slaves they never had slaves
They should have killed them outright. 
>>10174
>not enslaving yourselves when slavery is a mindset to begin with
Ancient Greeks enslaved themselves. We do to this day. If you don't 'have money to move away, save money, and pay rent, you're a slave. It's just a mindset. Doing away with slavery is like doing away with bitch workers. Fascism is supposed to be about a hierarchy of power not equality. The Persian army had no slaves so they lost to the Greeks. Slavery just means 'proper order in society'. No?
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>>10178
Profiting from someone else's work while not compensating them is degenerate, no matter how you spin it. It's a question of mindset indeed, jewish midnset.
>>10178
>They should have killed them outright. 
I agree. That's what I would have done.
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>>10179
If you didn't save any money you weren't compensated so much as ate food and had a place to sleep. This includes minimum wage workers and slaves despite them having different titles. Neither can move away and are controlled by their masters of which is their boss and or landlord, or, you know, slave master of whomst owned the land too and taught the slaves what work to do as well as a minimum wage worker boss would. What's the difference? Disagreeing with this is communisitic. Are you a communist anon? 
>>10182
Yeah but white people constantly are too nice and thought they'd teach people a lesson. "That'll teach the jews". And yet bad eggs should be aborted. Don't spank the child over and over again, kill it. But that's not very nice is it? A bastard isn't very nice but white people are not so... clairvoyant enough so as to realize why not killing them just leads to the bastad killing you later on. Like all these people that want to save polar bears and other such predators. It's super nice.... and foolhardy. Sitting there trying to save others when you can't even save yourself. The jews had a swimming pool didn't they? Hitler was homeless for no reason and they gave them a swimming pool because o the heckin children and women that were joos. Like petting a child vampire when child vampires are still vampires and they're never gonna not be.
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>>10174
A slave complains he will be enslaved? How quaint. Get off my board. Here we kill all shitskins and enslave freaks, and weaklings and the otherwise unfit like that one dude who pops off that he is a former tranny, he will never be more than a slave and I'm sure he considers that better than death.
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>>10184
With jews, yes. Kill them all the moment it is possible to do so. No lessons, no monologuing. We can teach lessons with stories to our children later, once the threat is removed.
Same with Mexicans and other enemies.
On spanking and killing a child though, you may have been hyperbolic. A White child shouldn't be treated as an animal.
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>>10179
The slave profits by the slavery not usually being permanent and by learning either a skill or a trade in the process of being a slave. There is no such thing as free labor. I would rather enslave a white and feed/clothe/lodge them than do the same for a shitskin even if that shitskin happened to be the best nigger stonemason on the planet.
Slavery is not exclusive to nor done exclusively by jews and in most Aryan societies it was more of a trial to assimilate the salve over a period usually from 7 to 10 years, at the end of which they attained citizenship, in both Rome and Ancient Hellas was this the case. permanent slavery was usually reserved for criminals or otherwise undesirables just as it is today.
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>>10193
What do you think about using non-White prisoners for slave labor? Food preparation, basic metalworking, digging tunnels like the above poster suggested. Use them for simple work that would leae our own men to perform the more complex or important tasks.
>>10195
>Food preparation, basic metalworking, digging tunnels like the above poster suggested.
White people below -½σ are almost incapable of doing jobs more complicated than that, our underclass is already more than sufficient.
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>>10196
You misunderstand. These non-Whites would be war captives taken during the revolution, disposable slave labour intended to be rid of once their usefulness is over. Snatch some niggers from their homes, put them to work digging tunnels or whatever under the watch of armed White overseers. Then when they're too tired to work, use them as target practice or as dummies to demonstrate hand-to-hand combat techniques. Or just grind them up into dog food.
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>>10195
>What if we use non-Whites for Food preparation?
>gets poisoned
Why do you want to hang around non-Whites anyway?
>>10197
Insurgents cannot keep slaves.
I predict that 95% of the war, if we ever get around to it, will be spent as insurgents terrified for our lives every single second. The last thing we need is prisoners. Insurgents do not take prisoners. 
Well, maybe they can kidnap enemies but this is either for random or information.
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>>10195
Pretty sure I stated in one of my posts quite clearly what should be done with shitskins, they are completely unnecessary for anything we may want done.
>>10176
>As a fascist, my question to you is: Why the hell would we want niggers in our midst as slaves? 
In our midst... not so much if we can coral the colored slaves in places that are easily surrounded and monitored such as large camps. Having a cheap labor for mundane production has advantages. It was much more profitable to make Jews work in camps than outright kill them. The goal was rather naive though since they were supposed to be forced to walk to the far East once the war would be over, then trained into knowing what it means to do real work. There is always that typically Christian mindset at play that longs to force Jews to overcome their inborn tendencies for the sake of their souls.
The risk of having mud people close to us is a question of what would happen if we were to lose control, but that's looking at it from a wrong perspective because you're not supposed to be defeated in any way. Otherwise there certainly are many projects a given people would not engage into by fear of losing, thus becoming risk-averse and being weak and easily scared. Conquerors don't see things that way.
This is not to say that a risk doesn't exist. When the slaves outnumber or even merely compare in quantity to the slavers, we have a risk of a racial imbalance.

>>10179
Interesting claim. Practicing usury against non-Whites, is it a crime? it's a good way to extract value while destroying a population that progressively becomes enslaved. But is it degenerate when the beings are not worthy of being considered equals, even less human?
Also do not ignore that some people definitely have a slave mentality. Their life is very basic and perhaps if they get entertained enough into believing they are free, they wouldn't notice their own fetters.

>>10182
Easy to say in retrospect but it made no sense to do so from the perspective of the German government. They were pragmatic and logical. The more people working for your nascent empire the better.
Every decision is dependent on the conditions and the pressing needs. For example in the coming war there is no doubt that the major objective should be to purge all our enemies while we increase our power. However there would come a point where said power couldn't be challenged but we would still have a long way to go. Then is perhaps a time when it would be more useful to enslave the others to either make them work for us or to fight for us. We would have ample time killing them later on once our victory would approach totality.

>>10193
>The slave profits by the slavery not usually being permanent and by learning either a skill or a trade in the process of being a slave. There is no such thing as free labor. I would rather enslave a white and feed/clothe/lodge them than do the same for a shitskin even if that shitskin happened to be the best nigger stonemason on the planet.
But the skill was nothing more than the slave's sole excuse to be kept around.
I would not enslave a White person as if I were expected to pick a random individual within our population. But our racial enemies and race traitors? Especially those who remain after a nation has been defeated? We could enslave the remainder without caring for what side they would pretended they were on. Certainly we would have no issue recognizing our true allies even when they operated within an enemy country.
>Slavery is not exclusive to nor done exclusively by jews and in most Aryan societies it was more of a trial to assimilate the salve over a period usually from 7 to 10 years, at the end of which they attained citizenship, in both Rome and Ancient Hellas was this the case. permanent slavery was usually reserved for criminals or otherwise undesirables just as it is today.
But Rome continued giving citizenry to emancipated slaves who were not White. We know where this went.

>>10196
>White people below -½σ are almost incapable of doing jobs more complicated than that, our underclass is already more than sufficient.
Perhaps not in time of war or constant struggle. The future times might be so different from what we know, they might come so close to some kind of post-apocalyptic situation, that it will perhaps become productive to have colored slaves, assuming we could easily get rid of an entire camp if suddenly needed without risking finding ourselves with tens of thousands of coloreds on the run and capable of building an insurgency.

>>10199
>Insurgents cannot keep slaves.
I am not the anon you replied to but that's why I say above that indeed, in the first phases of our struggle we could not afford having slaves. But there's definitely a tipping point when we should have gathered enough strength that we could benefit from using small groups of slaves. It will really come down to weighing the pros and cons and concluding on the usefulness of slaves kept in literal chains.
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>>10241
It should be stated that I'm assuming a post-war society, so I'm not talking about making POWs dig a trench. I'm talking about picking apples or paving a road. In war, stuff happens. 

>Having a cheap labor for mundane production has advantages
Firstly, why not pay White people to do it instead?
Secondly, didn't our children used to do tasks like apple picking and picking up dropped wheat? 
Thirdly, we have machines now. But even so, I'd rather pay White people the equivalent of 15$ an hour to pick apples than have one guy harvest them with a machine IF there was an employment need. 

>We shouldn't concern ourselves with what happens if we lose
Forcing our society to rely on non-White labor greatly increases our likelihood of losing both short term and long term.
You know who also thought the way you do? Rhodesians. They figured that having blacks do the lawn mowing and tobacco picking was wonderful because it was cheap and they figured that the racial imbalance was not a problem because they were White and if the blacks made trouble, they'd just beat them and send the survivors back to the fields. 
That mentality not only led to military defeat, but the complete annihilation of their entire nation, their embryonic ethnic group. Wiped out, forever.

But the thing I do not understand is WHY we should keep non-Whites in the first place. I don't get it. Why should anyone here want to look at them? They are trying to physically exterminate us from the face of the earth. Why on earth should we not exterminate them the moment we are able to do so?
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>>10192
And if the white child acts like an animal shouldn't it be killed/enslaved or are you a vegan/"liberal" and want donkeys/'downies'/etc to have equal rights (to 'good eggs')? What is DNA? Kikes are born kikes; bad eggs analogy is apt for whites too as evolution is just like that, we are the most diverse race ergo we are also going to have criminal spawns that won't listen to reason and only responds to being attacked physically to get it to "cooperate" (monkey see monkey do, it will attack others so it's best to kill it). Humans are literally animals you know, animals mutate into different directions and that includes white people. Normalfags act like being "divergent" in a society of order is good, it's not if it threatens the order. If you have some non-verbal autistic for example what are you going to do? Try to teach it math so it can maybe piss in your gene pool later on once it rapes a good egg/woman?  Criminals are born.
>>10247
>vid
Is that Orlog?
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>>10247
>a false dichotomy this extreme
Why are you responding in bad faith?

> Normalfags act like being "divergent" in a society of order is good
We could be described as divergents against ((( order )))
If we believed that obedience to authority was the supreme goal, we would not embrace the most suppressed ideology on the planet.

Regarding non-verbal autists, like Hitler, I believe that they should be institutionalized and sterilized. 
You seem to be talking about killing actual retards. That's a debate that could be had but my post was against killing disobedient White children instead of spanking them. Firstly, many of us would be dead if our parents held that mentality since we're so disobedient to society that we've adopted the ideology of "evil" according to it.
Secondly, most "disobedient children" are just boys being energetic. I don't believe that we should kill boys who act the most like boys. If anything, boys with lots of energy should be praised and maybe encouraged to excel in sports or join the army or something.
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>>10245
>It should be stated that I'm assuming a post-war society, so I'm not talking about making POWs dig a trench. 
This changes the conditions of the discourse a lot.
In a post-war society, I wouldn't feel like even bothering coming up with arguments to babysit colored slaves for very specific jobs. The idea of having them anywhere us would annoy me greatly and I think I'd have them killed. But racial traitors of an ex-White nation? They would deserve being enslaved until they die, even if they were just following orders.
With that said, it's impossible to answer some of your questions because they largely became irrelevant as the conditions have been shifted. In a post-war society, with the last major war well beyond us, we should never need to rely on anyone else and only take every decision solely on the basis of convenience. My own preference would be to get rid of them and either use dumber Whites or machines or both.
>Forcing our society to rely on non-White labor greatly increases our likelihood of losing both short term and long term.
I presume you agree that you're replying to a sentence written within the context of necessities of war. Having slaves is an advantage as it frees Whites from all the menial work and they can either become soldiers or take care of the rest of society's higher functions. The dumb people in particular would be encouraged to become the proud cannon fodder. It's a win-win situation.
>You know who also thought the way you do? Rhodesians. They figured that having blacks do the lawn mowing and tobacco picking was wonderful because it was cheap and they figured that the racial imbalance was not a problem because they were White and if the blacks made trouble, they'd just beat them and send the survivors back to the fields.
That was a pre-war condition, right? It would be forbidden to even have niggers around Whites so this pretty much solves the issue at hand. To me slaves belong in a camp. Period.
I wouldn't want a Haitian situation, and then again this was different because it was an island and with modern means we could safely manage such a place. Better medicine, mobility and weapons would see to this. The whole island would be a cozy camp. White criminals would also pick sugar cane alongside niggers. New technologies allow for all sorts of funny things like GSM explosive collars or implants. But being less sadistic and insane, I would rather enjoy this entire island be depopulated and then be made White only. As said earlier, White people and machines would do the heavy lifting for whatever can be done there.
One thing I cannot know is how intense the war will be, if there is any. There is always a possibility of the change being triggered by small conflicts opening up to a switch of political powers and then the hardest problems being managed civilly.
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>>10247
Idiots can't make a difference between a diversity of sensibilities and useful skills and being a constant wart on society fueled by teenage angst and petty rebellion, essentially because it's too hard for them to understand, sit down, shut up, concentrate and make the effort to try to see what is wrong. They'd rather throw a political tantrum and scream and even break things because it's easier, much easier to be unruly stupid kids than show true order and discipline, which scares them to no end. They're the first to trample legitimate authority and tear down patriarchy, the power of the father in all constituent elements of a nation. That's essentially what the left and the enabling liberals are in a nutshell, misfit unruly children and their irresponsible surrendering parents.

I also feel pity for the woman in the video, even for the man too, an absolute man-baby who's literally stuck in this grown up body and condemned to be a total retard. Aktion T4 would be the kindest thing ever although it would be painful for the mother.

>>10248
:)
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Also, who's going to clear out the land mines?
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>>10262
>bad faith
Guess. 
>implying society is in order
Laughing_girls.filetype
>implying Hitler was of bad blood on the Fascist board
>implying most of us were spanked 
>energy/sexuality having anything to do with being too dumb to foresee your own behavior causing problems
My parents had me on a literal leash myself until I was old enough to be considered an actual human being. Beyond the age of reason though, post childhood amnesia phase, if still spanked you should be killed and are retarded socially because you lacked social awareness. I don't recall the leash and if I did I never grew up. People that have no childhood amnesia should also suffer a very late abortion in my opinion as their childlike innocence will be unrealistic. Mother Teresa types as an example of the overly innocent, though not due to religion but their own psychology being that of a literal child. These types see ufo and think alien. They are a plague on logic, fearing luigi boards and such. 
>>10266
Fly over the border with a gyrocopter u fag. 
>>10265
>Aktion T4 
So you concur. Most of the time people say teenage angst I assume they were 'broken of spirit' when they were teenagers though. Broken like a horse. I'd abort that kind of man before he projects his abused mind onto others as an adult. Such men often attack children for no reason rather than let them get out of the leash phase naturally.
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>>10271
>My parents had me on a literal leash myself until I was old enough to be considered an actual human being
That sucks.
>if parents choose to spank their kid, they should kill him
That is retarded. Most parents are retarded so they spank kids for no reason. 
>basically, we should kill millions of our own children
You're not a serious person and your ideology isn't serious.
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>>10264
Ah, my mistake. I interpreted some of your ideas to be talking about a post-revolution society. We agree that all enemy races should be exterminated regardless.

>It would be forbidden to even have niggers around Whites so this pretty much solves the issue at hand.
Assuming that we're talking about a post-revolution society (which is implied since we lack any ability to enforce these laws pre-revolution), this is still a bad idea because White people are naturally compassionate and non-Whites breed like rabbits. So you have one trait pulling us to emancipate our slaves and another trait enhancing the enemy's destructive potential. As soon as possible, all enemy races must be removed so we never again revert to this situation.

Then again, maybe the problem is just jews. After all, White people are not naturally racial cucks. So, arguably, removing the cancer will remove the symptoms. Even so, I'd rather not take a chance. We need to eliminate enemy races when the iron is hot. If they are not removed within 10 years of the revolution's success, they never will be.
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>>10271
>Fly over the border with a gyrocopter u fag. 
Here's a game: if you don't run, we burn you alive. Ahead of you there's a minefield. If you make it to the other side, you live.
>>10273
>Most parents are retarded so they spank kids for no reason. 
Keep projecting. They may not be bright but they spank because they're pissed off and that's usually because the kid is doing a mess. Usually the father should intervene. There's no need to smack automatically, a few words and a punishment like forbidden toys, games, cake, biking, whatever and stuck in the bedroom is very efficacious. No need to drop to nigger levels. Yes, it needs to be said that when the government says it wants to drop parental abuse on children, that government knows it's shitskins who sling their children like ragdolls or chicken in order to vent and have them shut up.
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>>10274
>this is still a bad idea because White people are naturally compassionate
>So you have one trait pulling us to emancipate our slaves 
I see your concern but I don't need to remind you that we were naturally racist until the Freemasonic and Jewish mind plague hit us squarely. As I said whether we keep them far away in small numbers, isolated, or not, is a matter of expediency and whatever we deem necessary at a given point in time. I don't want a situation similar to that of the American Southern States, but "nigger island" surrounded with boats and guns and ready to blow up if shit hits the fan, which technically it could and should not because of our better means of control and health would perhaps allow us to make them work in plantations. There are modern weapons, chemical or else, that kill people without threatening the material assets. We are also talking about a situation where we would be millions upon millions and them, these pockets of colored slaves, would be few and easily monitored. That being said, I am not insensitive to the topic of a niggerless world. I am on your line when it comes to the security of it. Assuming a situation would require that we use some slaves, it should be only done under the conditions that we are well armed, superior in numbers, free to move and in total control of the surrounding territories. Funnily enough I don't mind using niggers to kill race traitors. Historical twist, eh? At some point they'd run out of ammo and we could finish them off after giving them treats to appease them and make them feel safe. I'm all for a White Hegemony at this point, which implies a strong world population reduction as far as all the other races are concerned, and I understand how the world and nature are cruel, so I'm really growing fond of the principle of aligning myself to this harsh reality as long as it moves us closer to this White Hegemony. Niggers are just sitting on precious resources and beautiful lands.
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>>10276
>They may not be bright but they spank because they're pissed off 
You shouldn't parent in anger. You should parent based on right and wrong. 
> a few words and a punishment like forbidden toys, games, cake, biking, whatever and stuck in the bedroom is very efficacious
This works better than beating. 

>>10277
>we were naturally racist until the Freemasonic and Jewish mind plague hit us squarely
I agree.
> I don't want a situation similar to that of the American Southern States, but "nigger island" surrounded with boats and guns and ready to blow up if shit hits the fan
Think about all that effort and labor we're expending to keep niggers in line on an island. Doing what? Picking cotton? Sugar? We have machines for that and even if we did not, I'd much rather the island be settled by White people to do it instead. It's starting to sound like you want niggers as pets rather than fulfilling some sort of labor force. Like a zoo.
If we're going to have a zoo island, I'd rather it be for tigers or giraffes or something nice. No matter what you have the niggers doing, it will cost more to keep them than they produce. They will never behave. And what a waste of an island.
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>>10273
If most people are retarded then most of those little bastards indeed are dysgenic. Your society is overly monke and will stay monke until they stop putting women, children, and minorities on a pedestal for no logical reason other than following  the carnal instincts of an ape. 
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>>10276
>child chimps out 
>parent chimps out because it's offpsring chimps out
>chimps chimping chimps chimping etc
No punishing is even necessary if the child is actually not a chimp for once but of course it is because the parents were dysgenic asshole bonobos. 

I often wonder if the real reason often a noble from ancient Rome tossed their own noble child into the streets to be slave was due to it crying too much. Based if that's how it was. Now we care oh so much about he heckin' bad eggs and look where it got us.
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>>10279
>You shouldn't parent in anger. You should parent based on right and wrong. 
Domo arigato gozaimasu, sensei, but you're totally wrong: anger is fine. It's human. it doesn't invalidate the goodness of a statement, opinion, belief or else. Anger doesn't mean that you have low impulse control though, it only means you're angry and that can be legitimate. The kid will clearly see that you're pissed off too and register this far more easily than any long talk. Words are good too because the kid needs to know what is wrong but there should be no long stupid modern American debate about what is right and wrong. It's wrong because the parents say so. Period. No discussion. Also, anger is reached if the child did something quite wrong or terribly annoying, it doesn't always happen.
>This works better than beating.
Thank you Mr Leftist but that's fucking gay. A smack on the bottom works very well too. A kid will survive it but it all comes down to balance. Abuse anything and it will turn sour.
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>>10281
>No punishing is even necessary if the child is actually not a chimp for once but of course it is because the parents were dysgenic asshole bonobos. 
>I have no kids and I must speak.
No wonder we can't achieve anything with such retards.
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>>10281
You have embraced inhuman views. This is why people hate fascists.
Far too many people who call themselves fascist say things like, "I believe that we should beat our own children to death"
It's not a good look.
Would you do Hitler a favor and claim to be a liberal while advocating literally beating our own children to death? It might do more good than you think.

>It's based to throw a baby into the streets if it cries
>I'm a fascist, btw, why does no one like my ideology?
>Maybe I need to talk more about mutilating children? Yes, that will do the trick.

>>10302
Angry people do stupid things, such as hold a slight against a child for weeks. Or act out that you're going to abandon him in the woods in such a way that you don't even know why this is happening so you assume it's because that parent actually hates yo and learn nothing beyond this because you don't even know why you were being punished in the first place.

So, how many children do you have?

>>10305
ikr?
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Save for statistically inconsequential exceptions, don't bother with anyone over 40, as they're too comfortable with current society and their place in it. Revolution is a young man's game.
>>10316
>You have embraced inhuman views. This is why people hate fascists.
>Far too many people who call themselves fascist say things like, "I believe that we should beat our own children to death"
It's likely just some loser who failed life, venting and posturing through his keyboard. A total waste of flesh and time.

>>10316
>Angry people do stupid things, such as hold a slight against a child for weeks. Or act out that you're going to abandon him in the woods in such a way that you don't even know why this is happening so you assume it's because that parent actually hates yo and learn nothing beyond this because you don't even know why you were being punished in the first place.
No, that's just people who can't work out their own emotions and can't into discipline. I remember my own father being angry at me but it never devolved into some retard nigger behavior. It was fairly legitimate and I regretted it as much as he regretted having to punish me for this. This, however, happened rarely because I wasn't a jackass, more of a book worm most of the time who had his crazy moments on the bike.
As for the children, currently managing one of five, nearly six now, and the other popped a year ago. The worst part is all the degenerate and anti-white poison at school and the vaccine scheme. We're planning on moving away from the city. Not a big one but big enough to be already too pozzed for my tastes and I know from acquaintances that we will have a much better option by leaving this place and not looking back, although that's a long way off. Besides, the neighborhood is already changing. The hardest part is losing the house, it went through several hands but always stayed within the family going back all the way back to some great great uncle. It's not cheap but that won't filter anything, it doesn't mean much, successful pajeets or chinks are known to settle in rather easily. I also know we need to flee because there are days I have strong desires to run over some of these coloreds with the SUV and that's not going to help us at all if I indulge such murderous tendencies. I think I'm snapping tbh.
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>>10332
>I remember my own father being angry at me but it never devolved into some retard nigger behavior.
I'm not talking about being cross but logically administering a punishment. I'm talking about screaming, losing your shit, and beating your child in rage.
That has the exact opposite effect that is intended, I can guarantee you. But we probably agree on that.

Good luck with your family, anon. It's tragic to lose a family home, but a rural setting is better for children anyway.
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>>10338
>I'm talking about screaming, losing your shit, and beating your child in rage. That has the exact opposite effect that is intended, I can guarantee you. But we probably agree on that.
Agreed but that's an extreme outlier.
>Good luck with your family, anon. It's tragic to lose a family home, but a rural setting is better for children anyway.
See me a hippie but man, those varied trees and the overall greenery is really soothing. That's one of the parts I appreciated most when going to the family but I never realized how good it feels until recently. Before that it was nice, then pretty, then chill. Then I was addicted.
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>>10340
I feel you, brother. I've always been rather sensitive to ambient noise, I simply can't stand city living because of all the car horns, brake screeches, shouting niggers, thumping shitskin "music", and a long et cetera. It's caused a lot of people in my life to openly wonder if I'm on the 'tism spectrum, and on the flipside I can't for the life of me understand how they see nothing wrong with living like this. I've taken to going out on walks very late at night because it's the only time of the day I can experience some relative peace and quiet, and even then there's the odd car zooming by that ruins that meager respite.
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Everyone who is willing fight is already present and accounted for. NPCs will only join the Fascist cause once it's safe, socially expected and profitable for them to do so, they will not lift a finger until then. In fact, they will be against us until we're the dominant player on the stage of power.
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>>10395
Amendment, on second thought: everyone who is willing to fight is already that way. You just have to find them and recruit them. The NPC masses will sink or swim but won't join of their own accord, so don't bother with them.
>>10395
>the masses will be against us until we're the dominant player on the stage of power.
If that's true, how will we become the dominant player on the stage of power?
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>>10399
According to responsible conservatives: by marching, voting, distributing fliers, attending town hall meetings and other conventional political tactics.
According to actual revolutionaries: by sabotaging infrastructures necessary to the regime's functioning, bombing buildings used by the regime's authorities, assassinating leadership and middle management figures, swiftly and brutally executing civilians who collaborate with the regime, and other time-honored terror tactics.
>>10400
The "actual revolutionaries", of course, will never do any of these things.
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>>10401
We have the PIRA to learn from, both their successes and their mistakes. But you knew that already when you made this zero-effort bait. Are you going to contribute anything of value to this conversation at some point?
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>>10402
You are all theory and no practice, at least the conservatives follow their own advice.
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>>10400
There is a disconnect here.
You cite sabotaging infrastructure and blowing up federal buildings.
But you don't explain how that leads to anything other than a dwindling, despised gang of terrorists who gradually get attritioned by the regime.
If these rebels are despised by the public, even a single mistake will lead to their complete destruction. They literally cannot make a single mistake or some outraged citizen will rat on them to the regime. They'll never get any support from anyone and no new recruits either since they will be unable to recruit a single person once they go underground. 
How are they funding these activities? Bombs may be relatively cheap but a campaign of bombings would cost as much as a house in just a month. 

And the biggest problem is, again, to what end?
Say that every single substation in America blows up. Now what? Sure, power is out but the regime still has infinite resources vs a bunch of tiny cells. How are we going to take power if our own race hates us?

You mention PIRA. PIRA didn't operate in opposition to the Irish people. They had huge support from them. The people they were fighting for participated in the struggle in ways that ranged from rioting for them to providing information and money to the rebels.
PIRA did not produce propaganda rebuffing their own population.

Are these the "actual revolutionaries" you're talking about? Because the PIRA were highly conscious of the way the public perceived them. Not just their own population, but even the British public.

Instead of getting angry at people who point this out, contemplate these issues yourself. If you're as serious about armed revolution as I am, you need to try to figure out how to get our ideas into practice in the real world as opposed to an idealized and romantic version of the world where we can just blow up a federal building and somehow take power over a population that hates us.
>>10404
>>10400
I'm sorry, but I must go on. You cite PIRA, when PIRA was the armed wing of a political party, sinn fein. If ONLY PIRA was resisting the British, they would have lost easily. But the struggle for Northern Ireland was a holistic struggle combining politics, violence, economic, and legal actions. And even so, they still failed to win total victory. Every successful political movement, including the successful jewish led marxist/liberal movements, succeeded because they employed EVERY means of victory over the enemy. They attacked it with violence, money, through the legal institutions, politically, through media, and every other possible method.
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>>10401
>>10403
Same person both posts from TOR, can be safely ignored.
>>10404
>>10405
>There is a disconnect here.
No there isn't, you're intentionlly disregarding facts.
>You cite sabotaging infrastructure and blowing up federal buildings. But you don't explain how that leads to anything other than a dwindling, despised gang of terrorists who gradually get attritioned by the regime. 
When that's where we already are, we have no other viable options left, as James Mason correctly pointed out you either Drop Out, and leave the system alone entirely, or go on the attack, to the exclusion of all else, there are no other options left and haven't been for a long time.
>If these rebels are despised by the public, even a single mistake will lead to their complete destruction.
When the rebels start at the point of most despised, no action that is taken can actually make things worse for us, but we can make things worse for the enemy, and hurt them and those that seek succor under their wings regret what they have done, and do it until they either choose us or die, either works.
>They literally cannot make a single mistake or some outraged citizen will rat on them to the regime. 
We are already there, the only reason many haven't been ratted out yet is that those around them remain either willfully ignorant, or are genuinely too stupid to see what's in front of their face.
>They'll never get any support from anyone and no new recruits either since they will be unable to recruit a single person once they go underground. 
That is where we have been for decades, nothing we do will hurt the cause at large, it will only affect those who claim to be /ourguys/ but really aren't.
>How are they funding these activities? Bombs may be relatively cheap but a campaign of bombings would cost as much as a house in just a month. 
How did Ted Kaczynski fund his bombings? probably like that, there's also theft, and many other ways to get what's needed. The problem is doing it in a way the system either can't track and prevent, which is much harder
>And the biggest problem is, again, to what end?
The destruction of ZOG, full stop.
>Say that every single substation in America blows up. Now what? Sure, power is out but the regime still has infinite resources vs a bunch of tiny cells. How are we going to take power if our own race hates us?
You play it by ear, recruit and filter out potential traitors once it's already down. The system does not have infinite resources, if they did, It's star trek time. If the entire country had no power, tracking down people they haven't identified or they cannot identify wouldn't be even the top ten of their priorities, and I doubt it would be even if they knew full well who had done it everything they have would go to damage control and as long as we can interrupt that and continue sabotaging them, what they and the idiots who believe them and take shelter with them think is no problem of ours.

>You mention PIRA. PIRA didn't operate in opposition to the Irish people. They had huge support from them. The people they were fighting for participated in the struggle in ways that ranged from rioting for them to providing information and money to the rebels.PIRA did not produce propaganda rebuffing their own population.
PIRA were commies, just as Sinn Fein is today, and they failed utterly in their mission, Ireland is not free of the British, nor is Ireland united, and neither Northern Ireland or Ireland proper are places free of the shitskin or jewish menace. They operated well for a time but then they gave up

>Are these the "actual revolutionaries" you're talking about? Because the PIRA were highly conscious of the way the public perceived them. Not just their own population, but even the British public.
>Instead of getting angry at people who point this out, contemplate these issues yourself. If you're as serious about armed revolution as I am, you need to try to figure out how to get our ideas into practice in the real world as opposed to an idealized and romantic version of the world where we can just blow up a federal building and somehow take power over a population that hates us.
Just because commies operating in opposition to a colonial power were conscious of how a bunch of british pantywaists veiwed them and of how Irish opposed to their actions viewed them doesn't mean we should be, and they still killed plenty of both Irish and British, even killing kids at times, there is no problem with this and most Irish hated the british more and valued independence more, than they cared about the loss of a few lives.
>I'm sorry, but I must go on. You cite PIRA, when PIRA was the armed wing of a political party, sinn fein. If ONLY PIRA was resisting the British, they would have lost easily. But the struggle for Northern Ireland was a holistic struggle combining politics, violence, economic, and legal actions. And even so, they still failed to win total victory. Every successful political movement, including the successful jewish led marxist/liberal movements, succeeded because they employed EVERY means of victory over the enemy. They attacked it with violence, money, through the legal institutions, politically, through media, and every other possible method.
If The IRA were not backed by and constrained by Sinn Fein the british would never have suppressed them, and you'd still be hearing about bombings and massacres today, unless full on war broke out, which would have been a toss-up.
You can only employ means if you have the capability to, we do not have the means to field a political party, the system has been built up to disallow us to attain power, we are the scapegoat for damn near every single act of violence, until the news finds out it wasn't a white guy, and sometimes it's still our fault even then somehow. Our job right now is to destroy the system, it doesn't matter if we are hated for that or not, it only matters that the system must be destroyed utterly, with no mercy for anyone who opposes that goal.
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>>10410
>we have no other viable options left
>there are no other options left
Then why aren't you blowing up substations? If you genuinely believe that
1. That will bring us victory and
2. there are no alternatives,
Then the only reason why you are not doing so is because you're not actually pro-White. You're just a coward.

>How did Ted Kaczynski fund his bombings?
His bombs achieved nothing. He didn't attack infrastructure, he sent cute little letter bombs that failed to kill the majority of his targets.
Ted Kaczynski is overrated, yet he has still done more than you have. Again, if the only path to victory is blowing up substations, why aren't you doing it?

>If the entire country had no power,
In my hypothetical, the rebels achieved an unrealistic level of success. However, realistically, there is no way that the tiny number of rebels would be able to take down power across the country, nor keep it down for long. So long as the regime has the full support of the population, it is literally invincible. In order to take it down, this support must be fractured. No one posing as a revolutionary has ever articulated how the hell we take down the regime by shooting transformers. This mentality is:
>We shoot transformers
>?????????
>?????????
>?????????
>?????????
>We are now the government
It makes no fucking sense.

>most Irish hated the british more and valued independence more, than they cared about the loss of a few lives.
Yeah. That is my point. The fact that the public supported them aided in their success. 
A counter example: No one likes ISIS. ISIS had 100,000,000 times more resources than you do. Yet despite this, they were utterly unable to conduct even one meaningful attack in America, let alone create an Islamic insurgency here because they lack any support. You creating a lasting pro-White insurgency in this environment is as silly as ISIS trying to build one here. In fact, ISIS would be more successful because at least Muslims have support networks. Do you? No. So you'd fail even harder than them despite your higher IQ.

>we do not have the means to field a political party
Well holy shit, if we cannot even form a political party, we sure the hell won't be able to take over the government.
>Our job right now is to destroy the system
With WHAT?? There is no secret Fascist army. You said yourself that we lack the strength to even form a political party.
This is pure fantasy.
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>>10412
>Then why aren't you blowing up substations?
> If you genuinely believe that 
>1. That will bring us victory and
>2. there are no alternatives,
>Then the only reason why you are not doing so is because you're not actually pro-White. You're just a coward.
What I am or am not doing is none of your business.
I never stated or intimated or otherwise expounded that i believed one action would grant us victory, the only thing I have ever said blowing up substations, powerplants, and other vital infrastructure was to begin the destruction of ZOG, I never stated otherwise, in fact in my post above I directly show that that would not be the end, and as much as I might like to, I cannot do it alone, unfortunately people don't actually want to damage their comfortable lives, even less so when they have children, and the sheer amount of ideological confusion helped in no small part by people just like you, doesn't lend to finding those who either already do or can be brought to thinking like me, never mind that organizations like PF constantly interfere and snap up anybody who could be educated properly, funnel them into useless activism, interstate vandalism campaigns, and slaving themselves out to boomers who hate even the cucked as fuck "fascism" they claim to stand for.
To be perfectly clear the only thing I believe is the path forward is violence, and that there is no alternative left to us other than that, whether that includes the destruction of electrical substations or not is neither here nor there, it's simply one among the available methods of violence against the state.
Very poor attempt at Strawmanning,
>His bombs achieved nothing. He didn't attack infrastructure, he sent cute little letter bombs that failed to kill the majority of his targets.
That wasn't the question.
>Ted Kaczynski is overrated, yet he has still done more than you have. Again, if the only path to victory is blowing up substations, why aren't you doing it?
I agree that Ted is overrated and an enemy of Fascism/National Socialism, and I will not comment on what he or I have done in comparison to one another, it's pointless when it's literally your go-to insult, and it still remains a moronic idea to tell you anything of substance.
Nobody ever said that that was the only path to victory only that it is one path upon the only path left to our cause, VIOLENCE.
>In my hypothetical, the rebels achieved an unrealistic level of success.
Where is attacking key infrastructure points to bring down every grid in the US except Texas unrealistic? they are not defended around the clock, in fact I have spent some time watching substations in both rural and urban areas and most are left completely unmanned unless there's a problem, which is rare, the only real issue would be cameras, and depending on the individual location perhaps getting access to the critical parts of the substation itself, since some are held inside buildings. 
>However, realistically, there is no way that the tiny number of rebels would be able to take down power across the country, nor keep it down for long.
False even fifty people fully aligned could take down enough that it would be critical and considering what we know of the goverments preparations in case of widespread power failure(nearly non-existent now since power companies farmed manufacturing out to china) It's not outside of the realm of possibillity, but it would be difficult to put together. 
>So long as the regime has the full support of the population, it is literally invincible. In order to take it down, this support must be fractured. No one posing as a revolutionary has ever articulated how the hell we take down the regime by shooting transformers.
You are fixated on one possibility, you are assuming in the face of all evidence that the governemt has the full support of the populace now, it does not, so it is not invincible. It is not possible to fracture what support there is or cajole the apathetic into action through any method but direct violence, either towards them or towards what the government provides that makes them comfortable. Political activism has not worked for 70 years, and the levers of power are less accessible now than they were 70 years ago. to any of us, as just one slip-up and even some of the most distant localities will kick you out of power. It's happened many times, and keeps happening so often that I genuinely wonder how anybody continues to advocate for PF style bullshit.
>This mentality is:
<>We shoot transformers
<>?????????
<>?????????
<>?????????
<>?????????
<>We are now the government
>It makes no fucking sense
You are asking for a full fledged plan that would necessitate resources and power and organization that our movement has not been able to put together throughout 70 years of political activism. So fuck it we're going to the roots, and doing what Hitler himself said to do, that is that when you cannot change a corrupt State, destroy it! What happens then is that a shitload of people die, the survivors will fight over what remains and what can be gained from the remains, and we open our own path to power through that time. Until that time, that state of affairs, arrives, no plan has a point, no amount of talking can change what has to be done. You are sitting in your armchair whining that we have to make a plan, well then why is it every single plan, that every single derad like you has spouted AD FUCKING INFINITUM on this board, going back to it's original iteration, has been tried multiple fucking times in pretty much every country I can think of for over 70 fucking years AND HAS RESULTED IN LOSSES NOT GAINS!
WHY IS THAT THE CASE?!
Could it be that while you fucks sit around making plans and doing everything that you can to either slow down or stop those like me from taking action because you care more about whether your people like you, than whether they are free and healthy? 
I tell you this I would rather be talked about as a cruel tyrannical genocidal maniac that successfully cleaned up our people and set them on the path back to the Natural Order, than I would be talked about as an angel who couldn't do a fucking thing because I cared too much about what people, including my enemies, thought of me.
>Yeah. That is my point. The fact that the public supported them aided in their success. 
Your point is fucking retarded then, just because it helped doesn't mean that help is necessary, the IRA probably would have fought for independence even if all of Ireland hated them
>A counter example
ISIS was funded by the US and Israel, thats why they didn't manage to do anything, apart form being entirely focused on Iraq and Syria and why they still haven't. Their Islamic insurgency is coming along though entirely without their involvement, with all the Sandnigger exclusive enclaves the US Government has set up and helped create on it's own soil.
You presume I care to create anything long-lasting under an oppressive regime that has closed all avenues to change and is increasingly hostile to areas where we can be left alone, I am not, I seek only to destroy the machine my oppressors use against me, what happens after that will be up to luck, skill, fate and the Gods, not me alone.
>Well holy shit, if we cannot even form a political party, we sure the hell won't be able to take over the government
Exactly moron, we have to destroy it, not take it over! period, plain, simple.
>With WHAT?? There is no secret Fascist army. You said yourself that we lack the strength to even form a political party. This is pure fantasy.
WITH WHATEVER MEANS WE MUST! This doesn't require an army, it requires that we damage the state enough that it can no longer operate, this is not only doable, it's downright fucking easy in comparison to wasting 70 years trying to build something both assholes like you and the state repeatedly destroy! It doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't matter how you phrase it, everything you have advocated for on this board results in ONE THING, a slow march to extinction, whereas if i fail at least we went out fighting instead of trying to get into a boardroom full of fucking kikes, who'll kick you out at the first mistake.
>>10348
>I can't for the life of me understand how they see nothing wrong with living like this. 
That is the issue today, the ill of the times, that so many people "don't see any problem" with things we should not accept. They have been domesticated into accepting the unacceptable. Luckily many more are open their eyes. For example it is fantastic how the entire Covid show backfired against more urbanism when people found that social interactions, quietness and greenery were extremely pleasant and necessary, going against the plan of corralling people into cities for an easier management of the goy cattle. People found out that they wanted gardens and because of that they have become more concerned about the quality of life in such a different environment, they care about where they want to go.

>>10404
Yes, our situation sucks, but we're fighting for Whites and many Whites are getting used to be racially conscious. The Jews see this and try to co-opt this awakening. The Sydney Sweeney case tells a lot, as cringe as it is, because to keep control over the consuming masses, concession pearls have to be dropped. But each pearl is added to a necklace that cannot be broken.
The PIRA, the nationalist Basques' (not the communist ones) and the Corsicans show that it can work but they also had very strong cultural identities. In a way we at large don't have this, we have just the vague concept of race, skin color, and a common enemy which should really be what unites us beyond our differences. This is why a proper education on the JQ is paramount to our victory and the Jews' complete and eternal demise.

>>10405
Please. Jews win because they control entire large superpowers and have vast amounts of money and an equally impressive network.
PIRA vs IRA? The former certainly did much better.

>>10410
>PIRA were commies, just as Sinn Fein is today, and they failed utterly in their mission, Ireland is not free of the British, nor is Ireland united, and neither Northern Ireland or Ireland proper are places free of the shitskin or jewish menace. They operated well for a time but then they gave up
Commie or not (and I'd like to have information on that claim since I heard it was the IRA which was wormed through and thorough with commies), the nationalist-aligned goals and operations were impressive and successful enough, for a time. But they had limited means and no way to oppose a global force.
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>>10421
I thought they were one and the same, but the PIRA is a Split faction from the OG IRA, and both seem to have had commie infiltration, but the fucking moron I was arguing with skillfully evaded mentioning the IRA itself because it had no political wing when their struggle began. and Sinn Fein only appeared when PIRA split off.
War isn't exciting, noble or glorious. Especially in today's world, and especially guerilla warfare. It's a grim, bloody, depressing affair. Forget about a big, pitched, eye-candy widescreen battle. Even before the big battles take place (if they ever do) most of a White rebel's time will be spent sitting in uneasy paranoia watching for danger and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Espionage is an ugly business. Overthrowing the System will require committing crimes, barbaric acts. Even if you go in thinking you'll be fine because you'll do it to non-Whites or White traitors, your resolve will be tested to the breaking point the first time you sink a knife into someone's chest. It will involve killing countless people, many of them "innocent", and yes, sometimes children included. It will involve collateral damage. It will involve losing comrades, some of which you'll end up calling friends. It will involve terrible danger every day. Of capture, of torture, of death. Morale will be on the rocks for most of the war, and only ironclad discipline can fight the urge to give up, to surrender, to betray the cause. Even it might not be enough with some men.

Once a White man decides to fight, there's no coming back. There's no clocking out and going home and forgetting about it until tomorrow. There's no giving up and going home and returning to a life of mediocre normalcy. It's a 24/7, lifetime commitment. From the very second you undertake your first direct action of resistance, you're in the fight for good. It only ends with your life. Maybe you're smart enough and lucky enough and sturdy enough to survive and not give up and not crack, but don't count on it. The enemy is huge and powerful, and the fight is to the death.

If you're going to take up the fight, meditate upon the above, and understand even knowing these things can't prepare you for the real thing. Understand what you're risking, what you're giving up. Understand you might die if you take this path. If you go recruiting, make sure to drill this into their heads, otherwise they'll join up for the wrong reasons or go into the field with the wrong mentality. Make them understand they are waging their lives for doing this. But it's gotta be done, because nobody else will.

This isn't a game. It's a war, and the survival of our race is the stakes.
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It is the ultra-clericals who deemed political life the secular domain & the bastion of the Church the spiritual domain; the lay people & all offices of the State, the families & every other profession.
Not the Enlightenment. Not Rousseau. Not Modernity.
Don't forget that.
Rightwingers are caught up in pop politics and all the sensationalism, blissfully unaware.
They aren't trained to see their country, their inheritance, & other lay people as secular & the clergy / New Jerusalem as spiritual... or faced with the absurdity of condemning the former.
This conundrum isn't apparent when the Media & leftists fuss about Christian Nationalism with only a few fringe outliers of the religious right condemning Christian Nationalism.
Or are aware of the true extent of the political domain and why alienating it is bollocks. 
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My pet peeve about the Right:
The lurid anti-politics within from the religious right & right libertarians gives rightwingers a renegade spirit opposed to the integrity of political states.
(By religious right, I refer to the low church schizos who describe their nations as Babylon or Egyptian bondage as if they were Jews in captivity, but also the Tradcats too who always tout Spiritual Sword > Political Sword line and spite nationalism from the position of High Church).
Fascists were the only group who prioritized political integrity & aren't anarchists...
Albeit even fascists these days are drinking the pastoralist kool-aid & being corrupted by the Traditionalists to imbibe in their anti-politics (whereas Fascism was once a visionary proponent of High Politics).
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>>10487
The big issue is that the spiritual side of European culture has been utterly mutilated. First all the European peoples saw their spiritual practices abolished and made punishable by death, their storytellers and lorekeepers executed and their traditions supplanted with the semitic subversive filth that is Christianity. The entire Abrahamic institution has to be torn down and abolished, but more importantly the original traditions of the European peoples have to be recovered and a spiritual awakening to happen. Only then will we be able to begin the work of reconciling the secular and spiritual. The sheer amount of work that will go into that labor of reconstruction is staggering to imagine, considering all that has been lost thanks to Christian purges.


Of course, it's got to begin at home, and I admit I'm at a loss as to how one would go about individual spiritual awakenings to European traditions.
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>>10488
Rousseau adequately lays it down.
What Rousseau says is in line with the frustration many anons on /pol/ have with Christianity: that Christianity is not in line with the preservation of race or their interests as a people, is detached from their inheritance as a people, worst tells them to abandon their posts like communists appealing to the proletariat to abandon their countries / station for a far off goal of communism... Christianity mirrors in telling people to abandon their inheritance and political life for the far off goal of New Jerusalem.

https://www.earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/rousseau1762.pdf
>You may ask: ‘Why were there no wars of religion in the pagan world, where each state had its own form of worship and its own gods?’ 

My reply is that just because each state had its own form of worship as well as its own government, no state distinguished its gods from its laws. Political war was also theological war; the gods had, so to speak, provinces that were fixed by the boundaries of nations. The god of one people had no right over other peoples. The gods of the pagans were not jealous gods

>This was the situation when Jesus came to set up on earth a spiritual kingdom, which, by separating the theological from the political system, destroyed the unity of the state, and caused the internal divisions that never ceased to trouble Christian peoples. This new idea of a kingdom of 'the other world' could never have occurred to pagans, so they always regarded the Christians as really rebels.

>But this religion, having no special relation to the body politic, leaves the laws with only the force they draw from themselves without adding anything to it; which means that one of the great bonds for uniting the society of the given country is left idle. Worse: so far from binding the citizens' hearts to the state, it detaches them from that and from all earthly things. I know of nothing more contrary to the social spirit.

>They tell us that a populace of true Christians would form the most perfect society imaginable. I see only one great difficulty about this idea, namely that a society of true Christians wouldn't be a society of men.

>Christianity is an entirely spiritual religion, occupied solely with heavenly things; the Christian's country is not of this world.

>But I'm wrong to speak of a Christian republic--those terms are mutually exclusive. Christianity preaches only servitude and dependence. Its spirit is so favourable to tyranny that it always profits by such a régime. Genuine Christians are made to be slaves, and they know it and don't much mind: this short life counts for too little in their eyes.

Most people I deem unaware of how bad it is, because they don't directly deal with the hardest of hardcore Christians.
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I wish more rightwingers understood how apathetic Christianity is to the goal of securing their earthly inheritance or any pretense of Western civilization; something they highly esteem and think upholding Christianity coincides with.
To the Christians who are serious Christians and not cultural Christians, they don't care, that is toilet business, the Church isn't West, North, East, South, etc, Europe is a secular entity, for true Christians only the Church (which encompasses everywhere and is indiscriminate) and not for any country such as Germany, France, England, but to forsake these for New Jerusalem.
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>>10488
>Of course, it's got to begin at home, and I admit I'm at a loss as to how one would go about individual spiritual awakenings to European traditions.
Personally, I think what people long for is Heroism and a cult of personality to renew their identity as a people, the work of second religion to lead into the former.
Sorry for samefagging.
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Imho, what Rousseau is alluding to with total political unity between spiritual and political as an ideal looks like Italian Fascism's Actual Idealism or North Korea Juche.
Where the integrity of politics is well aligned to its ideal and fashioned keenly, pervading it rather than holding it in contempt; where the media and state are aligned, etc, without any bite of conscience against it for the sake of another place.
The advantage of these political ideologies is they have taken the culture of High Church without any playing chicken about bringing society to the behest, High Politics has tailored them keenly together not only in parish grounds but entirely throughout the polity, bolstering political life throughout.
I see the influence of Rousseau in both the far left & far right in this respect.
I'll leave it to the audience to discern whether Rousseau's appeal to total political unity with spiritual / political ideal has come to fruition or even surpassed the traditionalists as far as instilling civic virtue / molding the public is concerned.
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>>10488 checked (and more)
A difficulty is getting people to even care about anything ancient, from rituals to tales, to odd values and moral codes.
In a globalized world, returning to ancient religions is both absurd and impossible. We can't and must not, but we certainly need to find a new one that generously borrows from the prior ones.
If it took some two thousand years for the Jews to completely ruin Europe and her descendants, it may take just as much time to reverse the tide. Yet, National Socialism looked like it was about to achieve this within half a decade! The sheer madness of it! We need a myth, we need a creed rooted in reality that does not shun material wealth but also prizes honor, memory, sacrifice, discipline, education, bravery, and yet a strong belief in higher forces that shape a new destiny on this world.

This is why this anon is wrong. >>10449
War needs to be made glorious by giving something greater than men to focus on. We need an epic narrative worthy of the gods' attention, the best scenic play possible through which the most depressing rationalization of any soldier's situation is subdued to be replaced by an enchanted energy of pure will and might. I fear that by precisely being too analytical, too realistic about our situation we will miss out on the true candid and vicious state of mind we need to espouse to wage a war in a way that will never be understood by the Jews and whichever potentially shadowy force they might serve.

>>10491
Yes. I also learned that a lot of people eschew religion as a belief towards an institution's liturgy and, instead, delve heavily into numerology.
It happens that an essential part of Wodensson's works precisely involved numerology of a higher order: understand that it was not just about what kind of numbers to use to guarantee a win on a bet or the chances of turning a crush into a mutual love affair.
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>>10495
Isn't Rousseau somehow held partly responsible of the slow destruction of tradition?
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In fact, what a hylicpill you wrote there.

All of this is a GAME!
>>10499
>Isn't Rousseau somehow held partly responsible of the slow destruction of tradition?
Christian* traditional rule.
Romanticism helped plant seeds sympathetic to paganism.
IDK why pagans would mourn the death of traditional Christendom (which did culminate with the French Revolution -- the destruction of the French Revolution was primarily traditional Christendom).
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>>10496
>War needs to be made glorious by giving something greater than men to focus on. We need an epic narrative worthy of the gods' attention, the best scenic play possible through which the most depressing rationalization of any soldier's situation is subdued to be replaced by an enchanted energy of pure will and might. I fear that by precisely being too analytical, too realistic about our situation we will miss out on the true candid and vicious state of mind we need to espouse to wage a war in a way that will never be understood by the Jews and whichever potentially shadowy force they might serve.
I get where you're coming from, and I even agree to an extent. The problem is that I'm still not sure how to balance that with the earthy, pragmatic considerations of conducting a revolution. Mind you, I'm not afraid of recruiting guys who will see the conflict before us as something out of a Marvel slop movie like Redditors do. All the same I worry that guys will conceptualize our struggle as nothing greater than getting into fist fights with skinny Pantyfa retards and giving them wedgies like in Berkeley, when the actual conflict will be a vicious, protracted campaign of espionage fraught with covert killings, ugly carnage and paranoia. At least until it grows to the point of claiming physical territory, and even then it'll be pretty ugly. This is a war unlike any we've ever fought before after all. Am I being too pessimistic?
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Rousseau's legacy:
Rousseau's appeal to total political unity, the political ideologies of modernity has created a kind of High Politics, where spiritual ideals are woven with their political counterparts.
It looks like Fascism's Actual Idealism or Juche 
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It is true you could fault Rousseau with not being totally in touch with Tradition (esp. Christian Tradition / High Church); should we reject every innovation? /fascist/ differs from traditionalism and perennialism with its philosophy of Actual Idealism (the immanentist ideology which is responsible for totalitarianism). 
What Rousseau really innovated is the advent of political ideologies (Fascism, National Socialism, etc) where high ideals are interlocked with political life and the identity of a people. 
My opinion is this was an improvement to the total political apathy of the Christian past. It was never meant that such ideals should be divorced from political life, but like Rousseau appeals should be embedded and lived in the fabric of their lives... in that way, modern political ideology has this advantage over Christianity... where Christianity is caught in a game of playing chicken, never seeking to overall improve society outside of parish grounds... but always longing for a more moral society... but not ultimately not establishing such a society because it has given up on the World and left to pursue New Jerusalem... this characterizes the overall impotence of Conservatism to actually discipline and morally order society itself, because Christianity ultimately rejects society as a whole and its order, thereby rejects political integrity and the well being of families and the civic virtue of citizens, leaving us with a circumstance where conservative's advocate a retreat to parish grounds and escape, holding the rest of society in contempt as one big public school and Egyptian bondage.
My biggest fear with the traditionalist community (because "traditionalist" is a term that is ubiquitous could appeal to very different religious traditions that are not all the same) -- is that they will be caught up in adopting all the faults of Traditional Catholicism -- where there is a Catholicism with pagan clothes, and the attitude of High Church Christians behind pagans.
I think Rousseau is right in his diagnosis: that the Christian dilemma between contemporary politics and the New Jerusalem is a uniquely Christian problem that pagans shouldn't adopt. What Rousseau is saying is pretty in touch with /pol/'s problems with Christianity: the apathy to their culture and identity as a people other than as Christians going to New Jerusalem, etc, a spiritual life should re-affirm your identity and culture and who you are, not deny it.
>>10504
Good point. However let's remind ourselves that the French Revolution was a Jewish and Masonic affair and as we know with Masons, it can get quite complicated, especially at that time when only a portion of them were Jewed and the deeper you went into their ranks, the more anti-Christian you might become specifically, homing onto a more general deistic approach. The problem is that Masonry got cucked really hard very quickly. I'd love to see how exactly the Jews managed to worm their way into the lodges tbf. I think this subversion went fast, which says a lot on how too weak Masonry was, because that revolution involved way too many hidden kike elements and it destroyed way too many good things. It went overboard and it should tell us something that Karl Marx avidly looked into it for his own dire ideology. So it's not hard to have mixed feelings about that revolution. One could say with a fair dash of bitterness that it was a necessary evil to destroy an even more long term nuisance, Christianity. Christianity is dying in Europe, and that's not just because of the presence of Muslims as I leave them out of this observation. It really is dying in Europe.
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>>10516
>However let's remind ourselves that the French Revolution was a Jewish and Masonic affair
You wouldn't really have a Hitler in a world without the French Revolution.
I know this board likes to rap on civ nat ideology, but civ nat ideology is a hundred fold closer to the National Socialist cause than the late Habsburg Empire (which represented the old Christian Europe & Trad Catholicism). Prioritizing Germany and the German people is much closer to the race ideology of /fascist/ than the Christian cause of the Great Commission and Christianizing the whole world into the New Jerusalem.
Race ideology is really a facet of political integrity at the end of the day, so that people can live in peace and harmony... that same concern wouldn't be there in a world that touts Christian allegiance to the Church / New Jerusalem over the Nation. 

>The problem is that Masonry got cucked really hard very quickly.
Guenon was part of a Masonic lodge, perennialism / traditionalism basically has the same Masonic belief in the universalism of religions and he converted to Islam.

>That Karl Marx avidly looked into it for his own dire ideology
Hitler even looked into Communism for inspiration for the Natsoc party: he was inspired by the Communists and their rallies, adopted Natsoc banners and armbands, etc.
Gentile proudly boasted of being a Liberal and Socialist.
Not only the Far Left, but the Far Right takes inspiration.

>Christianity. Christianity is dying in Europe, and that's not just because of the presence of Muslims as I leave them out of this observation. It really is dying in Europe.
The French Revolution did that.
Pagans can spite the French Revolution and say with Evola that they valued life before the French Revolution... but I believe that is where Evola is fundamentally at odds: what you had before the French Revolution was Christianity and Evola rejected Christianity... I know others say that the institutional Church had adopted and preserved Paganism, but I still think that is misleading: the values prior to the French Revolution were Christendom.
Does the French Revolution and Modernity come with its own problems? I don't deny.
Albeit there were legitimate problems with the Old Order such as >>10487 & >>10489 & >>10490 & >>10495 makes clear and overall an improvement in the quality of life.
I guarantee most of /fascist/ here would be radical jacobins if they too dealt with the problems coming from High Church Catholicism: imagine Nick Fuentes and groypers on steroids and pretentious Christian scholastic nerds being your overlords.
Then again even groypers are more nationalistic and they too would be rabid jacobins if they knew better.
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>>10519
>You wouldn't really have a Hitler in a world without the French Revolution.
That's an awkward down rhetoric since we had an Hitler because the world was in need of an antidote and he acted in a country that was entirely Christian, proving he didn't need a clean slate to begin his crusade. As an another example, as soon as Christian Spain removed the Jews, the country flourished for a long period. What we see is that Christians in Germany worked against Hitler, and we can see that Christianity contains no solid ideological tool for the preservation of the race and to destroy Jews. In fact it's largely dysgenic and this is why I recognize that the French Revolution had a redeeming value in that it severely weakened the old power. But to see what is left of it and what happened to France since that time, outside the one moment a great man tried to rebuild a correct empire, says more than we need. The baby was thrown with the bath water because the revolutionaries were universalists too, some early globalists or proto-commies and nobody saw the need for a concept of the race when no symptoms related to a foreign presence were felt yet. In other words, there were no niggers so they didn't even need to see why their struggle had to include a very important clause about blood and origins. They ended killing tons of people while fapping about muh Reason and now France is a country that's submerged with all sorts of Africans and Asians because they contributed to destroy the only type of power that was capable and did contain and repel the nigger pest and also the Jewish one. See Code Noir (I swear, it's not the cool name of some movie or comics).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Noir
>I know this board likes to rap on civ nat ideology, but civ nat ideology is a hundred fold closer to the National Socialist 
I strongly disagree here. Civic Nationalism is patriotism for rootless idiots shoved under a banner regardless of race. The Habsburg Empire was in fact working with this in mind but it wouldn't have been an issue if the people under this empire had been properly protected, Jews killed or expelled and with Christianity altered, and foreigners prevented at large from settling in and moving around. One could even argue that an empire is what Europe needs again.
>Hitler even looked into Communism for inspiration for the Natsoc party: he was inspired by the Communists and their rallies, adopted Natsoc banners and armbands, etc.
He took the color red to avoid letting the communists appropriating it, but when it comes to tactics I don't see where they needed to learn from them. They didn't act like antifas or early Christians.
>Gentile proudly boasted of being a Liberal and Socialist.
Perhaps but death of the author.
>Pagans can spite the French Revolution and say with Evola that they valued life before the French Revolution... but I believe that is where Evola is fundamentally at odds: what you had before the French Revolution was Christianity and Evola rejected Christianity... I know others say that the institutional Church had adopted and preserved Paganism, but I still think that is misleading: the values prior to the French Revolution were Christendom.
This is why I said that it might have been a necessary evil. Christianity being attacked happened because I think this creed had done its time in the Jews' eyes, they didn't see any use in it anymore, but this viewpoint definitely appears to have changed now that Christianity has gone full nigger lovin'. The brotherly love for other races found in it or in communism are poisonous.
>Does the French Revolution and Modernity come with its own problems? I don't deny.
Big problems, terrible problems, the worst problems ever in fact. We're dealing with organized world wide genocide of our people.
This opposition between Christianity and atheism is rather useless when trying to assess which one was worse for the Whites. Both were terrible.
>Evola
His lesser focus on the biological aspect of races had him be more partial to greater abstract ideas but you can also appreciate his stance on who he sided with regarding the struggle between the Ghibelline and the Guelphs. I think he might have thought time would have finally weakened Christianity to the point of this creeding exiting Europe on a limp leg.
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>>10521
>he acted in a country that was entirely Christian, proving he didn't need a clean slate to begin his crusade. 
Hitler's appeals were nationalist appeals (German unification); in a world that doesn't care for this, but would rather appeal to High Church and not national / political aims... Hitler's appeals would have no appeal to a people if they were apathetic to nationalism... A major obstacle to Hitler's ambitions were the Habsburgs; do you think a strong Catholic Christendom and powerful Habsburg Empire would leave any room for a man like Hitler? The Catholic Church would probably be more emboldened to excommunicate all Catholics in his national socialists within his ranks and that would be the end of his movement (like they had done with Action Francaise).
And if the Church had felt Hitler was a danger, excommunicate him and permit Catholics to kill him.
Nationalism is far more closer to the appeals of race nationalism than High Church Traditionalism (which really hates both).

>I strongly disagree here.
I don't see why you'd disagree.
Hitler was a nationalist.
National Socialism is in the name.

>is patriotism 
Concern for political affairs brings you much closer to caring about the circumstances of your race as opposed to the High Church which says that secular affairs such as the inheritance of your people doesn't matter.

>regardless of race
Nationalism is an appeal to the people; your dilemma is what kind of people.
It is a major stepping stone in your direction compared to the past where politics (including the circumstance of race) was just inferior to the clerical estate.

>The Habsburg Empire was in fact working with this in mind
No, it wasn't.
The Traditionalist, Catholic bloc despises Nationalism, and the Habsburgs are their champions.
The problem with the Habsburgs wasn't that they were nationalists, but that they were High Church Catholics who wanted the subjects of the Empire to prioritize the denomination first.
You have to understand the traditionalist mentality: they'd prefer people to prioritize their denomination / church first and disregard their political circumstance... race affiliation is a political circumstance or secular affair to them.
National socialists are a kind of nationalist. Nationalism was a stepping stone into race nationalism. 
Without that stepping stone into nationalism, the old world order would be far less inclined to care.
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IDK anon, I'm not sure you're familiar with the people I lament about.
I'd advise getting a good dose of sincere traditional catholic types who are extremely committed to high church. Especially the pro-Habsburg, neofeudalist, muh Pope types. They hate nationalism and race nationalism alike. They fundamentally see your kind as secularists and state worshippers / race idolators. Those people are on board with the whole "there is no such thing as race or nation" and would prefer Europe went back to a time when it fundamentally mattered more that you were a Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox Christian rather than whether you were a Frenchman, German, Pole, or Dutchman, and divide peoples between princes as mostly private estates subordinate to the Church with the core identity being the Church allegiance with a peripheral of regionalism.
Of course, there are a lot of useful idiots in the lower tiers of the trad cat ranks who are race nationalists but completely unaware of this. They are not the upper echelon. Seek the upper echelon and hardest of hardcore to know the kind of people I refer to.

"No human virtue can endure in this world, save only one: true piety. Belief can cause us no disappointment since it promises us nothing in this world. The true believer does not fail us, for he seeks no recompense on earth. If one uses the same yardstick for peoples, it implies that they seek in vain for national virtues, so-called, and that these are even more questionable than human virtues. For this reason I hate nationalism and nation states. My old home, the Monarchy, alone, was a great mansion with many doors and many chambers, for every condition of men. This mansion has been divided, split up, splintered. I have nothing more to seek for, there. I am used to living in a home, not in cabins."
- ((( Joseph Roth ))), The Bust of the Emperor
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>>10521
>See Code Noir (I swear, it's not the cool name of some movie or comics).
The French even in the Ancien Regime were the most nationalistic people.
Napoleon kept Code Noir alongside the Napoleonic Code and wanted to invade Haiti.
Louis XIV isn't truly the most archtypical Christian monarch: Catholic clericals generally loathe him for his pride and basically not being a submissive lapdog for the Popes and loathed his Gallicanism / Absolutism.
Louis XIV's monarchy was a monarchy of majesty and stressed more gallant values that aligned with Antiquity (which is a far cry from the self-flagellation of other royalty in the real days of Christianity).
The kind of monarchy tradcath traditionalists like stresses humility and sainthood and submission to the Pope / Church... martyrdom and slave morality.
The Habsburg Empire was always the favorite pet dynasty of tradcath clericals and not Louis XIV, lol. To think they'd alter Christianity like Positive Christianity is a bit far fetched.
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>>10522
>And if the Church had felt Hitler was a danger, excommunicate him and permit Catholics to kill him.
That Roman Catholic Church literally stood against him and allied itself with traitors and people willing to destroy him and his vision for a revived Germany, for a German people free from the usurer and liars, sons of Satan. The Church hates nationalism, that's all.
>Concern for political affairs brings you much closer to caring about the circumstances of your race as opposed to the High Church which says that secular affairs such as the inheritance of your people doesn't matter.
You are not disputing my point on civic nationalism.
>The Traditionalist, Catholic bloc despises Nationalism, and the Habsburgs are their champions.
Have you missed the part about how civic nationalism is hardly concerned with roots and blood and only cares about symbols and banners? It's a concept of administrative management of populations only limited by an abstract circumventing line on an invisible map. Today you can be an American nationalist by being black. Just wrap yourself in stars and stripes and you're good to go. The Habsburg Empire would have barely been that much different aside from the fact that back then there was no real plan to do a lot of mixing within Europe that included non-Whites, but Hitler complained that this empire had no understanding of a racial identity. But how many European empires did?
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>>10525
>Seek the upper echelon and hardest of hardcore to know the kind of people I refer to.
That's called the Vatican and is all you need to know. There's nothing higher than that besides God.
The Vatican's age long stance on the concept of race is known by all. It does not care. The Bible does not. Racist trad-caths are imbeciles of the highest kind who don't even know what "catholic" stands for. I tire of their mental gymnastics.

>>10526
>The kind of monarchy tradcath traditionalists like stresses humility and sainthood and submission to the Pope / Church... martyrdom and slave morality.
Like that moronic French king who kept whipping himself? I think they absolutely love him. What was his name again?
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>>10531
>Have you missed the part about how civic nationalism is hardly concerned with roots and blood and only cares about symbols and banners?
My point is that civic nationalism is a closer step towards the interests of national socialism than High Church Catholicism.
At least civic nationalism has an interest in nation-building and striving to secure the prosperity and civic order of a people; to high church, that's just vain glory.
To secure the future of a race in -this world- is just secular nation-building to High Church.
You would have a far better chance appealing to race to someone who is ardently for the German people or ardently for the French people or ardently for the Serbian people, etc. 
I would disagree, however, that civics is limited to the administration or banners or symbols... the City is not just the walls or the borders, but the people who constitute it and their unity.

>But how many European empires did?
It was far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far better with late European empires in the 1900s imho compared to how it was prior to perhaps the Reformation. The level of apathy I cannot describe; I honestly think a lot of people take this for granted with modernity. European peoples were a much more motley mess, cobbled everywhere, High Church suffocated any political attachment and far suppressed that kind of sentiment.  The total apathy towards political life just doesn't compare to say the 2nd German Empire and how patriotic and motivated towards stately ends / the German people... and people were more concerned with race around that time and more racially conscious. 
In England, people would care more align with the Church than their political identity and talk more about the denomination during the Wars of Religion... it was nothing like we see today... trust me, go to an e-monarchist group and it is like a microcosm of what it was like back then, they'll mostly ask you about any issue pertaining to the denomination and hardly any regard for the political affairs like even national socailists have. I personally think this is the primary reason why monarchists are received as dullards or are perfectly content with the status quo... they just are okay with it as long as royalty are a relic of high church culture... tbh, they don't even care for the royalty themselves or what is at stake for their kingdoms... but another kingdom and another king... and the church over the affairs of their state.
Personally, I think the Habsburgs are among the worst offenders as far as European royalty go and largely responsible for that trope of royalty having no connection to their people and only being an apathetic, rich clique. High Church is why that seems to be, because it taught royalty to not value a blood relationship with their people, but solely with Christ the King. The Habsburgs are the kingpin of High Church sentiment in monarchist circles above all the others and seem to embody it. Their supporters definitely approve of the High Church sentiment in the Thomas Becket era where the clergy overrides the kingdom and that kind of apathy.
If I had to give a contemporary example of what that is like, El Salvador. 
Liberation theology and the martyrdom of Óscar Romero is like a modern day Thomas Becket cult. He is an anti-authoritarian symbol and as a symbol Oscar Romero is held in contempt of Nayib and hangs over him.
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>>10535
>At least civic nationalism has an interest in nation-building and striving to secure the prosperity and civic order of a people; to high church, that's just vain glory.
That's like saying you should drive a shitty electric car from X Brand even if it falls apart after driving 20 miles because it's better than the Y Brand one that falls apart after driving 10. Why not ditch both and simply drive a car that does not fall apart? I'm sick of all these mealy mouthed arguments that we should lower our standards and expectations and content ourselves with a mediocre solution because it's "the lesser evil". There's no such thing as a lesser evil, only the evil you're fine making excuses for.
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>>10538
I'll give another example:
If you know Zoomer Historian, I'll give my own observation on him.
He's a Mosley enjoyer, I think he takes after Mosley in supporting pan-Europeanism.
Mosley thought a big mistake for Hitler & Italian Fascism was they were nation-centric (for Germany or for Italy) when pan-Europeanism is needed to fight the other global powers.
What is Zoomer's vector for pan-europeanism? Seems like Catholicism is what is on his mind. It might be just a knee-jerk reaction against the muslim-loving King of England or to signal his dislike of the establishment (Church of England / Windsors).
That might be a good case against the civnats & the British who are pro-establishment. 
& I understand it is just like Hitler's issue with dynastic patriotism and Monarchy: Hitler doesn't feel the people and monarchy are aligned; the same with state administration and the people in civnat ideology, not aligned.
Civ nat ideology might not be appealing: in the grand picture, it causes brother wars (Germany vs France, England vs France), whereas the Church could be seen as a sanctuary for European unity in the Crusades against Islam and represent protecting Europe as a whole.
That is the idea White nationalists might have of the Church and why to favor it over nationalism. 
My opinion is this is an oversimplification and alliance of convenience (Catholics vs Muslims, whites vs browns?) That nationalism is preferable ideologically to high church traditionalism by a wide margin and it is not shitty car of X brand and Y brand. I think the high church traditionalists who are race nationalists just don't know how bad it is or race nationalists would wager it's X brand or Y brand... 
I criticized Hitler on this ground in Mein Kampf: Hitler lambasts the Habsburgs for choosing Politics over Religion for allowing Slavic people to intermix with German people and trying to form a coalition in the Balkans against Orthodox Russia. 
My opinion is Hitler has his diagnosis wrong: the Habsburgs choose Religion over Politics. Their indifference to ethnic mixing was not to advance political ends, but because they had another blood relationship in mind: Christ's blood. Hitler's anger with the Habsburgs was not the result of civnat ideology, but tradcath ideology. Every policy Hitler disliked about the Habsburgs really narrows down to it... in monarchist circles, that is what the Habsburgs are for. 

>only the evil you're fine making excuses for.
I don't think civics is evil. 
Some might think the White race is preferable in anarchy; I don't.
Patriotism is a good virtue to have... I think that is far superior to a kind of grassroots, anarkiddy pastoralism READ SIEGE race nationalists are falling for. In leftist terms, I think MLs have it right over the anarchists in terms of organization. Honestly, the anarchists of /leftypol/ would probably love far right politics because everyone is all for decentralization, pastoralism, and grassroots movements.
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>>10542
> whereas the Church could be seen as a sanctuary for European unity in the Crusades against Islam and represented protecting Europe as a whole
Which would be ignorant if we remind ourselves that the Church killed ethnic Europeans for their religion.

>I criticized Hitler on this ground in Mein Kampf: Hitler lambasts the Habsburgs for choosing Politics over Religion for allowing Slavic people to intermix with German people and trying to form a coalition in the Balkans against Orthodox Russia.
>My opinion is Hitler had his diagnosis wrong: the Habsburgs chose Religion over Politics.
You didn't read Mein Kampf, because Hitler criticized the Habsburgs for not choosing ethnic Germans and politics that favor Germans, over religion. He wrote a whole chapter criticizing the Habsburg monarchy for thinking that the Church was "infallible" and expressed disdain that they attempted a multi-ethnic state that was clearly doomed to fail.

<"The central idea of this new Habsburg, whose family had ceased to speak anything but Czech (the Archduke’s wife, a former Czech countess, had been morganatically married to the Prince — she came from circles whose anti-German attitude was traditional), was gradually to establish a Slavic state in Central Europe which for defense against Orthodox Russia should be placed on a strictly Catholic basis. Thus, as the Habsburgs had so often done before, religion was once again put into the service of a purely political idea, and what was worse — at least from the German viewpoint — of a catastrophic idea."

<"The result was more than dismal in many respects. Neither the House of Habsburg nor the Catholic Church received the expected reward. Habsburg lost the throne, Rome a great state. For by employing religious forces in the service of its political considerations, the crown aroused a spirit which at the outset it had not considered possible. In answer to the attempt to exterminate the Germans in the old monarchy by every possible means, there arose the Pan-German movement in Austria."

>Their indifference to ethnic mixing was not to advance political ends, but because they had another blood relationship in mind: Christ's blood. Hitler's anger with the Habsburgs was not the result of civnat ideology, but tradcath ideology. Every policy Hitler disliked about the Habsburgs really narrows down to it... in monarchist circles, that is what the Habsburgs are for. 
<I criticized Hitler on this ground in Mein Kampf: Hitler lambasts the Habsburgs for choosing Politics over Religion for allowing Slavic people to intermix with German people and trying to form a coalition in the Balkans against Orthodox Russia.
Which is it?

>Honestly, the anarchists of /leftypol/ would probably love far right politics because everyone is all for decentralization, pastoralism, and grassroots movements.
Far-right politics are subjectively interpreted; some far-right-wingers want the same or similar decentralization as the time Europe was fragmented known as the Middle Ages, and others want total centralization, but done only under a crown. /leftypol/ despises far-right politics either way, and arguably right-wing libertarians even more. /leftypol/ has differing views from tankie retardation to total anarchism. Some of them want total centralization of everything for the proletariat, and others want anarchy with Marxist ideology. Leftists fundamentally uphold their false god of egalitarianism, so they obviously absolutely despise right-wing politics which believe in hierarchy, civility, and piety as fundamental. Also, leftists today are not ruralists; they're clearly urbanites just like Marx was. Why would they be in favor of pastoralism, a conservative/traditionalist lifestyle where you just herd sheep and goats? They despise such simple living.
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>There's no such thing as a lesser evil, only the evil you're fine making excuses for.
That was beautiful.
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>>10663
Hitler states,
>religion was once again put into the service of a purely political idea
>For by employing religious forces in the service of its political considerations
Which is it -- I say it is the other way around. 
It feels like you haven't talked with tradcaths: their boast is that the spiritual sword > political sword, that the Church & Pope overrules national interests, that preservation of things like race is a temporal matter, etc.
The Habsburgs & Tradcaths are lead by the idea that politics must be put in service of religion and not the religion in service of politics: their ideal is that Church should be above all else.
Nationalism -- I repeat, Hitler who was a nationalist -- purposes the opposite: that political interests should come first... the policy that Hitler laments is simply Tradcath integralist policy, which is the opposite: it is not religion in service of policy that is happening here, but policy in service of tradcatholicism.
Which favors the denomination above the ethnicities.

>some far-right-wingers want the same or similar decentralization as the time Europe was fragmented known as the Middle Ages
Which happened because it was primarily about the High Church -- back then, people didn't care about issues like Hitler cares about and spurns the Habsburgs for, that's why Hitler's comment that the Habsburgs prioritized their politics over their religion is all wrong in understanding the tradcath mindset: that is not tradcatholicism, their mantra is the other way around: politics in service of religion or subordinated to it.

>Also, leftists today are not ruralists; they're clearly urbanites just like Marx was. Why would they be in favor of pastoralism, a conservative/traditionalist lifestyle where you just herd sheep and goats? They despise such simple living.
Anarcho-pastoralism is retarded. Yes, the far-right pastoralists might as well be taking from the far left anarchists' cookbook. 
They think that you can go innawoods be fully independent from civil society: when all that farm equipment and everything else that is used as infrastructure comes from civil society and the bigger picture.
Pastoralists need a politics 101 course, not even Aristotle thinks man can live divorced from civil society, saying man who cannot must be a beast or a god. Pastoralism is another kind of individualism where pastoralists think they can live self-sufficient without civil society. It is fundamentally not going to work anymore than white flight: so long as all the other big institutions and everything else controls the rest of society, the pastoralists will nonetheless also be impacted. 

>right-wing politics which believe in hierarchy, civility, and piety as fundamental.
I don't see going back to tradcath ideology as fundamental: I'm not interested in pulling the tradcath ideal of priest / church > political integrity in any other sheen. Piety and hierarchy of priests is what the Habsburgs wanted and like Hitler said it made for awful policy under the scope of Trad Catholicism. 

>>10669
No, it's dumb.
Hitler is making NATIONALIST appeals against the TRADCATH Habsburgs.
It should be a wake up call that out of all the Habsburgs, Hitler only approved of Joseph II and hated the rest.
This whole board and the nationalist concerns here would be kicked to the bucket in a tradcath europe.
A fragmented Europe that doesn't value policy or doesn't value nationalism is far less interested in your cause than a Europe built on nationalist ideals... Natsoc is just a kind of nationalism. Hating nationalism just seems downright historically ignorant on the part of the anons here.
Hating nationalism and preferring high church and longing for this kind of trad pastoralism is more of a tradcath pill than natsoc pill.
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Adolf Hitler's concerns are nationalist concerns.
The way Hitler disregards denominational conflict (which is the result of the old European conflict where people identified with their denomination > nationality, for crying out loud).
Hitler on denominational factionalism in Mein Kampf:

>But the movement we were successful in placing this problem before the German people in the light of an idea that would unite them in one struggle the Jew reacted. He resorted to his old tactics. With amazing alacrity he hurled the torch of disc0rd into the patriotic movement and opened a rift there. In bringing forward the ultramontane question and in the mutual quarrels that it gave rise to between Catholicism and Protestantism lay the sole possibility, as conditions then were, of occupying public attention with other problems and thus ward off the attack which had been concentrated against Jewry. The men who dragged our people into this controversy can never make amends for the crime they then committed against the nation. Anyhow, the Jew has attained the ends he desired. Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another to their hearts' content, while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.

>As a matter of fact we succeeded until the autumn of 1923 in keeping our movement away from such controversies. The most devoted Protestant could stand side by side with the most devoted Catholic in our ranks without having his conscience disturbed in the slightest as far as concerned his religious convictions. The bitter struggle which both waged in common against the wrecker of Aryan humanity taught them natural respect and esteem. And it was just in those years that our movement had to engage in a bitter strife with the Centre Party not for religious ends but for national, racial, political and economic ends. The success we then achieved showed that we were right, but it does not speak to-day in favour of those who thought they knew better.

>In recent years things have gone so far that patriotic circles, in god-forsaken blindness of their religious strife, could not recognize the folly of their conduct even from the fact that atheist Marxist newspapers advocated the cause of one religious denomination or the other, according as it suited Marxist interests, so as to create confusion through slogans and declarations which were often immeasurably stupid, now molesting the one party and again the other, and thus poking the fire to keep the blaze at its highest.

>He [George Schonerer] went into battle against the Church because he was convinced that this was the only way in which the German people could be saved. The LOS-VON-ROM (Away from Rome) Movement seemed the most formidable, but at the same time most difficult, method of attacking and destroying the adversary's citadel. Schonerer believed that if this movement could be carried through successfully the unfortunate division between the two great religious denominations in Germany would be wiped out and that the inner forces of the German Empire and Nation would be enormously enhanced by such a victory. 

>For the future of the world, however, it does not matter which of the two triumphs over the other, the Catholic or the Protestant. But it does matter whether Aryan humanity survives or perishes. And yet the two Christian denominations are not contending against the destroyer of Aryan humanity but are trying to destroy one another. Everybody who has the right kind of feeling for his country is solemnly bound, each within his own denomination, to see to it that he is not constantly talking about the Will of God merely from the lips but that in actual fact he fulfills the Will of God and does not allow God's hadniwork to be debased. For it was by the Will of God that men were made of a certain bodily shape, were given their natures and their faculties. Whoever destroys His works wages war against God's Creation and God's Will. Therefore everyone should endeavour, each in his own denomination of course, and should consider it at his first and most solemn duty to hinder any and everyone whose conduct tends, either by word or deed, to go outside his own religious body and pick a quarrel with those of another denomination. For, in view of the religious schism that exists in Germany, to attack the essential characteristics of one denomination must necessarily lead to a war of extermination between the two Christen denominations.

>I have no hesitation in saying that in those men who seek today to embroil the patriotic movement in religious quarrels I see worse enemies of my country than the international communists are. For the National Socialist Movement has set itself to the task of converting those communists. But anyone who goes outside of his own Movement and tends to turn it away from fulfillment of its mission is acting in a manner that deserves the severest condemnation. He is acting as a champion of the Jewish interests, whether consciously or unconsciously.

Here, Hitler is doing the very opposite of what he accuses the Habsburgs of: Hitler is placing religion in service of policy. He wants a united Germany, but the Protestants and Catholics would be far, far, far, far, far more content to divide Germany on lines of their denomination.
See the issue here? nationalists don't want to divide their nation according to the denomination, but to place religion over political integrity would downright mean it should be.
Look, let's take apart Hitler's concerns and I'll explain why in a tradcath Europe they'd be discarded:
>For the future of the world, however, it does not matter which of the two triumphs over the other, the Catholic or the Protestant. But it does matter whether Aryan humanity survives or perishes.
Again, the Christian doesn't care about the future of -this world- or whether Aryan humanity survives or perishes. Those are temporal concerns: the traditionalist would say, like Jesus, to put your treasure in places where moths cannot eat it. The same with race. These political matters Hitler is concerned with -- is a kind of secularist issue. The Christians in the denominational ranks -- like prots or catholics -- don't care about this.
If you're like Hitler and you think this denominational in-fighting is bad for national unity, going back to old Europe, there would be a total disregard for so-called "Aryan humanity", "Germany", and nationalism. They would be more than content to divide along the lines of the denomination.
So why do people here think that an amplified denomination divide -- where Europe is thoroughly divided by religion and the interests of Protestant or Catholic groups -- is closer to them than those who divide Europe on national lines, based on what and who the people are? It makes zero sense, I'm sorry some of the anons here seem balls to the wall retarded to me.
>>10671
>Which is it -- I say it is the other way around
I say you're retarded and aren't making a point at all. Your English sucks and you fail to realize that no one here was arguing against Hitler being a nationalist. No one here is shitting on Nationalism. Learn to read and quit pilpuling.
>>10671
>No, it's dumb.
No it's spot on. Civic nationalism is shit and there's no point writing pages upon pages to say the contrary. You are so stuck up in your own thought train that you didn't even realize that the anon you replied to doesn't say the church is right or that religion supercedes the people's identity, he says that civic nationalism is perhaps slightly "less worse" than the traditional catholic position and that it no way makes it good, or good enough.
I for one don't even think one is better than the other because both deny the race. Civic nationalism simply makes the government important – and it's easy to make the argument that Italian Fascism really was a form of radical civic nationalism – where faith is a bonus, whereas for the church it's the government that is secondary. But both agree that the identity by the blood, ergo race today, is a filthy premise.
You have typed way too much to say very little because of your reading comprehension issues.
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>>10676
>Civic nationalism simply makes the government important
l0lbert brain.
Who do you think constitutes a city? the people... and practically the rest of the estates. It isn't just about big guberment.
<C1vic nAti0nal1sm is just SLIGHTLY w0rse, they're the same thing!
The former actually is about building a civilization for your people, the latter is about abandoning it for some other corporate entity that doesn't even exist in this world but far off.
>and it's easy to make the argument that Italian Fascism really was a form of radical civic nationalism
Corporatism works for the refinement of the people, to make them more individual, more united, more of a community of pleasures and pains... that is the policy of National Socialism and the real crux behind race nationalist thinking. You anons are just mislead to think this is incompatible with race nationalism when it is very ideal.
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Corporatism was Natsoc policy: When he came to power, Hitler didn't do some l0lbert Tolkienesque return to farmville LARP, embrace political pluralism and leave the present generation to govern themselves, -- No, Hitler banned all other parties and made Germany into a one-party state (That is Corporatism, pure and simple). Hitler didn't do this by accident, but because a corporatist policy aligns more with such racialist ideals (& like it or not, the opposite, political pluralism leads to a plurality of races
Hitler was going to build a massive metropolis of Berlin. 
He was raising a new generation of youth with Hitler Youth (just as the Church and other institutions would before him, so I don't want to hear any pastoralist crying about raising the youth). 
These are corporatist, unitary ideals, civic ideals: the kind the anons here have been convinced to berate and prefer political pluralism and anarchism over. 
You might say a one-party state is reminiscent of Leninism or a leftist thing: but that is what Hitler did. Yes, Hitler borrowed these ideas from the Left to enhance corporatism for his own party, Hitler was not afraid to even recruit from the Left:

Hitler Mein Kampf
>Up till then the movement had possessed no party badge and no party flag. The lack of these tokens was not only a disadvantage at that time but would prove intolerable in the future. The disadvantages were chiefly that members of party possessed no outward token of membership which linked them together, and it was absolutely unthinkable that for the future they should remain without some token which would be a symbol of the movement and could be set against that of the International.

>More than once in my youth the psychological importance of such a symbol had become clearly evident to me and from a sentimental point of view also it was advisable. In Berlin, after the War, I was present at a mass-demonstration of Marxists in front of the Royal Palace and in the Lustgarten. A sea of red flags, red armlets and red flowers was in itself sufficient to give that huge assembly of about 120,000 persons an outward appearance of strength. I was now able to feel and understand how easily the man in the street succumbs to the hypnotic magic of such a grandiose piece of theatrical presentation. 

Embracing too much decentralization is just embracing death and entrophy; eventually, if the movement is to truly live, it must unite and become a greater organism and make people aware of their moral unity, NOT leave them to run amok with some l0lberty pastoralist trite.
>>10679
You're not even debunking one word I said. Civic nationalism is a democracy that longs to become totalitarian and which says that all that matters is the government, the supreme authority. It wishes it could be fascism but it certainly does not even attempt to espouse the positive aspects of fascism, because civic nationalism is at best neutral and blind to the racial constituents of a nation and will keep things as they are but with no intent on forfeiting any possibility of future change, at worst it tries for all sorts of reasons to replace the indigenous population. Italian Fascism was saved from this weakness by the German influence.
>Corporatism works for the refinement of the people, to make them more individual, more united, more of a community of pleasures and pains...
Big words. All governments pretend their ideologies are there to serve the people one way or another. The real litmus test rests in how the race is preserved and then its morals and culture.
I also specifically spoke of Italian Fascism, so there is no point responding by talking about National Socialism.
And since you have reading comprehension issues, once again you dropped an entire post that simply does not even begin to counter what I and the other anon said. Fascism without a major pro-White racial component is useless. National Socialism was almost there, Italian Fascism wasn't, which made it mirror the pre-Christian Roman Empire with its vast hordes of slaves all subservient to the State. Do you even remember that Mussolini longed for new conquests of Africa as in the olden times?
This argument is going fucking nowhere. This is supposed to be /fascist/ yet here you are, arguing like a bunch of rabbis trying to find a loophole in the Talmud. You should be embarrassed of yourselves.
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>>10697
>*brap*
>>10490
The problem with Christianity (aside from the doctrinal inconsistencies that make it so weak) is that Christians claim that life is utterly meaningless. That we should only care about praying to Jesus and it doesn't matter if your government is run by jews and your race will go extinct. 

If you genuinely believe that the only thing that matters is the afterlife, and that life on earth is meaningless otherwise, there is no reason to be a nationalist or even to engage politically at all.
Things would have been far better if we maintained ancestor worship or something. Ancestor worship is the essence of nationalism. You cannot corrupt it.
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I believe that White people, when left to our own devices, unobstructed by jewish media and jewish influence, will naturally, organically form pleasant and healthy societies.
This belief makes me lean towards democratic power structures in a post revolution world. I don't get why this makes me so radical. I'm not trying to be rude to dictatorship fans, but you'd expect that White nationalists would have a higher opinion of White people, and that German nationalists would have a higher opinion of Germans.
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>>10824
The question with this power structure isn't if white people will rule themselves, but whether you want a composite, mixed polity or a state corporatist structure.
Now a composite, mixed polity is more in probably more for mixed races; think about it, Aristotle even advocates having people of mixed race in that constitution to be natural slaves.
This was all well and good when among European peoples -- they were not so juxtaposed in characteristics as peoples, but under cosmopolitianism these policies of the mixed constitutionalist kind are awful.
Aristotle on a mixed or foreign racial underclass
>The very best thing of all would be that the husbandmen should be slaves taken from among men who are not all of the same race and not spirited, for if they have no spirit they will be better suited for their work, and there will be no danger of their making a revolution. The next best thing would be that they should be Perioeci of foreign race, and of a like inferior nature; some of them should be the slaves of individuals, and employed in the private estates of men of property, the remainder should be the property of the state and employed on the common land. I will hereafter explain what is the proper treatment of slaves, and why it is expedient that liberty should be always held out to them as the reward of their services.
And this mixed constitutionalist thinking with political pluralism is also why some people praise Brazil (& composite, mixed polity is Brazil-tier in spirit).
With Diversity & Multiculturalism, the goal really is to do what Aristotle says as a solution (as opposed to Plato's solution of a community of pleasures & pains) -- that solution of Aristotle being a strong mediocrity to stop conflict (and for the most part this has come to mean a strong middle class like GK Chesterton Distributists advocate which is Aristotelian policy) -- the same idea really is underlying the Pro-Diversity advocates, whose idea of Diversity is a Strength isn't only based off Political Pluralism & State mixture, but also like the Distributists looking to bring in as many races as possible to mellow out the stew and separate the tensions and radical extremes between the races (so it isn't starkly black vs white, but a whole series of peoples).
And Plato's idea of a community of pleasures and pains is really much closer to what white nationalists want (the problem is eliminating private feeling that is dividing our constitution with a stew of races). And that is what video related is preaching.
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>>10711
There's an occult teaching I came across, which says that a swarm of souls came from a different world, jumping from the 6th etheric plane to the 7th material plane where we live. This happened about 6000 years ago, around the dawn of the Bronze Age. I'm told they had some sort of mission, which went sideways, and they've been trapped with us ever since. But now our worlds are intersecting again, and those souls are departing to their native world of etheric energy.
This is relevant because this swarm of souls had a profound influence on the Axial world religions, especially Christianity, Gnosticism & Buddhism. The whole otherworldly message, that your true home is elsewhere, and this is a temporary trial ground to pass through, was actually true for those souls, just not for the rest of us, which explains alot.
I can't confirm this teaching 100%, but there have been multiple unrelated accounts of dreams/visions all converging on these same key points, which also have alot of explanatory power, so I consider this to be very likely.
>>10972
That is called Scientology
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>>10980
but it really isn't. Scientology is a gigantic scam built on bad sci-fi and kike-like manipulation. This is different, aligning with much older traditions, kind of like the ideas of the Gnostic blackshirt known as the Green Knight (who I've conversed with before). Of course, it can't be proven, but nor can it be disproven.
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>>10972
>>10983
to reiterate, the main point I'm making about that occult concept is that it explains why Axial religions tend to be otherworldly -- because those teachings were/are correct for a certain subset of souls, just not for the rest of us.
>>10958
>a composite, mixed polity is more in probably more for mixed races
I believe that no matter what government structure you have, a mixed (racially) society will be dysfunctional. But certainly, a mixed democracy is the most dysfunctional of them all. A mixed dictatorship might actually work for a while.

As for enslaving foreigners, while I understand that you personally are not advocating this, some people do and this is bad. Even a minority of a foreign people will by definition be the enemy of the majority because power is a zero sum game and by enslaving the minority, you've declared war on them. It is now in their absolute interests to overpower and conquer the majority by any means necessary. Since force of violence will not work, the minority must adopt subversion to win the power game. And thus the jew is born.
As harsh as it sounds, all foreigners must be eliminated for a harmonious society to exist. We tried having niggers as slaves and look how that turned out. They need to be eliminated. But not before the jews.
>>10972
It does sound like scientology.
As for its truth, idk. Maybe.
My concern is primarily about ensuring racial survival and prosperity. If a religion enhances this, then it is a good religion. If it encourages us to show kindness to our competitors, then it is a bad religion.
>>10958
Regarding the first video, you don't need a multicultural society for this to happen. Take China. I've seen videos of people, kids sometimes, left to die without anyone being bothered to help them despite the victims being in the middle of populated areas.
>>11098
>If she was surrounded by her own people
This would have never happened to begin with. Go to Finland, Croatia or Slovenia, that stuff doesn't happen. Period.
The absolute lack of reaction of anyone and anything who is not remotely a hardline conservative is deafening.
>>11098
Maybe that's just the way Chinese people are.
But we all know that White people are not like this naturally. We love and care for our children.
>>11098
<mentions china 
<somehow not a multi-culti hellhole
Are you retarded or just completely blind to Chinas history as perhaps the single most racially impure place on the planet?
>>11125
Found the burger. Overall these Chinese are very homogenous despite the invasions. OTOH you can find tons of subclades in the White population within a single large White European country.
>>11125
Chinese are 90% Han people + they are removing the filthy "uyghur" turko kebabs from their premises every day. 

Hope you learned something new today.
Turkorape kebab larpers that made their choice refusing to give up the pisslam while hating chinese people and culture are not welcome in china and get sterilized and removed for their loathsome ape behaviors.

 That's what the west needs to do as well since shitskin genes automatically means they hate the few civilized races on earth by instinct worse than feral dogs. It's clearly the right thing to do.
Now all they can do is seethe while still refusing to give up pisslam as a guest in the chinks homeland.

Removing them is literally the ultimate technique.
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>>11142
The ultimate technique is removing them everywhere they don't belong. You can't bargain with the browns that want to sit in your home doing nothing and stealing from you while hating everything about you. The only thing misplaced browns understand is hate, lie cheat and steal + violence and that is quite obvious when you look at their ape behavior and the terrible places they come from. 

Uggur kebabs also prove that shitskin dna is poison even when mixed. They are actual bioweapons.
>>11125
Looks solidly Chinese to me. I wish my country was  as White as china is Chinese.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
Project 2025 looks convincing enough for most right wingers in the US.
If we dig a little bit, we see that it gives more power to the president while not guaranteeing that all points of the program would be applied.
They're also fairly weak. We do not demand a simple removal of DEI imperatives, we demand much more than that, a reversal of its consequences, an apartheid and then a territorial segregation.
All of this is just thrown at Whites to appease them, it's a ploy because it will never go far enough.
It will never dejudaize the country. It's trick from conservatives who play tough to deflate any racial revolution by thrown treats at White Nationalists. A blatant manipulation to release some pressure while not fundamentally changing the system so it can reinforce the total capitalist aspect of the society.
All of which leads to an idealized and more authoritarian version of the 80s' America.

Yet, if at least we could get most of Project 2025 passed and applied as a prelude to more, I could vouch for it.
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>>11170
Did you expect any different? Why do you give a fuck anyway? There are no political solutions to our plight.
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>>11175
>Did you expect any different? 
Why do you type like a negro? Didn't you go to school?
>There are no political solutions to our plight.
You seem to think that "political" means inaction and just talks.
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>>11180
>"political" means inaction and just talks
Correct!
There is nothing inherently wrong with desiring immortality. The whole spiel about muh natural order is a cope because people don't know any better. The real problem is that it's our racial enemies who have all the tools and resources for the pursuit of immortality, not the pursuit of immortality itself. Besides, go ahead and tell me you wouldn't want to perpsist in some form just to ensure the integrity of your legacy and that your descendants don't throw it down the toilet. Besides, tell me the idea of an immortal Führer looking out for his people wouldn't be a net positive.

There's nothing wrong with transhumanist pursuits either. In fact constant self-improvement and transcendence of the flesh are Aryan ideals. Transhumanism only has a bad rep because the loudest voices championing it are banal morons who want to become immortal to toke and coom eternally because as hollow men with no ideals or principles they find no purpose to existance other than stimulating their senses. Now if some forward-thinking White men pursued transhumanism as an ascetic journey of self-actualization, who knows...
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>>11141
Turks are an asiatic race. You wignats are truly the peak of the White race.
>>11346
Yes, we march towards perfection, in current terms and in past, it comes from refining yourself, and purity of the blood and culling the dysgenic is for this same aim, the goal is to forever progress until we reach godhood, and not the faggot strawman of it like which you referenced. 

Existence just is - what occupies it, those who don't want immortality for themselves, fine, but immortality of the highest ideal form, keeping it alive, is the aim, for if it is not alive, then something else exists in its place, something worse.

It's just another cause of mid-wittery or those who are still progressing in their development who can't separate nuance and don't evaluate this, or similar "contentions" with logic and reasoning, partitioning it out, yadda yadda.
I apologize in advance for how unpopular this take will be. White births are in the toilet, that we already know, and we know the solution. Have more babies; the problem is getting there. The dating world has imploded, and men are leaving in droves, which is understandable. My solution is that some of us are going to have to sacrifice ourselves to ensure the future generations. We need men to date and impregnate white roasties and heavily unattractive white women so that at least there is some increase in the birth rate. We can't all have our unspoiled virgin bride. Some of us need to roll up our sleeves and get down and dirty if we want to survive, even if that means lowering our standards to floor height. We need babies.
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>>11358
White men have been lowering their standards for generations on end and there seems to be no bottom to it. No, here's an even more unpopular take: no more women's rights until ZOG is overthrown, if ever. Capture the most genetically healthy White women and put them in breeding pens. Psychologically break them down until they're docile and don't try stupid shit like harming their baby out of spite. Each one will be pressured to pop out a White baby each year, father will be decided by lottery. Leftist White women who aren't completely dysgenic or tainted with drugs or other nasty shit will also be captured and forcibly impregnated. If you get squeamish you're a faggot, rape is a reality of war and we're in the middle of a race war, there's no time nor room to be a gentleman.
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>>11359
Logistical hurdle for this : registering the sons if they are going to work or do things above ground.
If there are enough of these women for each man in this scenario, just have each man get one and re-pregnant them every year, for the obvious reason and so genetic pools can be easier to manage distance so after enough generations you can track when its safe for breeding between the groups, though a good spreadsheet could over come it.
If there are not enough to go around, then I could see the lottery style thing happening, if only to ensure each man gets his genes passed on. 

That's one avenue, just logistics and long-term hurdles. 
Another (not exclusive) is stealth pregnating, though issues as your dna is tied, how worth are the risks vs benefits, still better overall having more white kids around. 
A safer route now is getting young but legal teen out to live on your rural farmhouse and keep her there, train her and restrict her ability to leave and get anywhere out in the middle of nowhere. 
Many avenues to go for, it's just logistics and risk profiles. 
Some may not even need to do much of this at all, and one woman if starting at say 17 can produce 10 kids being conservative. 

And you, whoever is committed and has kids or is going to have a bunch like we need, they need to connect with at least one other family, if you are healthy and young enough, breed eachothers first wave of daughters, and have your kids breed with eachother, you will have to then find another family or wild ones next to keep genetic distance. 

It's really not hard  once you have your first litter if there is another couple guys with their litters and you connect.
If your talking about a scenario where some sort of balkanization happens or something which won't really be within our windows if it occurs, maybe our kids would be facing it, but only really have the issue if we fail as a generation, during the next 10-20 years WE need to have viable breeding populations already built, if we don't we failed and would deserve scorn like I scorn those before us(Whites) who left little to nothing. I curse my recent ancestors and those who were aware, they could have propagated through heavy breeding and been a couple generations down by now. 
Just ranting rage though. 

PUMP OUT BABIES YOU FUCKERS.
breeding with non-white women is not a bad idea if the women has good genes, this is not an advocacy for race-mixing as you may think. some non-white ethnicities (except for niggers and pajeets) has a very small portion of females with perfect genes, attractive or intelligent enough to be breed able, they compose like 3% of the total population of each ethnicity (it gets higher or lower depends on the ethnicity) they’re so rare they’re considered “hidden gems” why should we throw these good genes just because they were born in the sea of dysgenics?
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>>11391
>breeding with non-white women is not a bad idea
Nice attempt at disguising your race fetish by couching it in fascist rhetoric, but no. You deserve death.
>>11391
Doesn't exist.
Regardless, races are incompatible with each other and become mutted freaks, intra-race mixing is the only acceptable and even then you won't find me mixing with shitalians or potato-niggers.

Yes, remove all non-whites from existence. Are you coping with an asian gf by chance?
>>11398
Your attempt to put lipstick on the pig that is your race fetish is just plain embarrassing. Piss off already.
You idiots think the issue is the birthrates but it is not. A slow reduction of the population isn't even a bad thing. It's made an issue because it's opposed to brown birthrates. Suppress the brown people, suddenly your countries are white. A country that counts 100 million people including browns needs not try hard to reach 100 million people but all white. It's fine being at 70 or even 50 million. Cities are less cramped, wild life can return as we then put quality before quantity.
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>>11411
Plus a little genocide and terror (or a lot of genocide and terror) can handily solve the population and housing problem. Take Tarrant for example. With one mosque shooting he drove off a great number of shiskin families back to theor home nations, as he had killed their breadwinners (mostly male) and fostered a climate of fear and uncertainty for them due to hitting them in a place of prayer when they were vulnerable. White revolutionaries conducting such attacks with regularity (and not getting caught, obviously) would achieve even better results.
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>>11411
It's about our numbers and consequentially our firepower as revolutionaries. We need birthrates one so we can spread our own power-base and people, and two so we have a larger base of whites for breeding and a stop-gap against the situation that is ongoing at the moment. We have a lot of dysgenics and we need as much non-dysgenic whites out there to fight the genocide and to ensure our survival. 

We also need enough man-power and brain-power to compete with the rest of the world once we are a white nation again and we have a lot of landmass, and should really just boot all the nons.
>>11412
>Take Tarrant for example.
No.
>With one mosque shooting he drove off a great number of shiskin families back to theor home nations
Only in your head. Families run on welfare dingus.
Always recruit in the 20-30 age range, with exceptions based on exemplary character and competence. Old timers are not revolution material because they're comfortable with what they have and are just concerned with keeping it. Revolution is a young man's game.
There is nothing wrong with killing non-White children. What they've done to ours over the years and continue to do is justification enough.
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>>11694
Thank you for your unpopular opinion, agent Johnson.

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST It is not federal agent worthy to state a fact

>>11694
How is that unpopular?
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>>11704
Short version: See the post right above yours.
>banned for not being a fed
>BO is still a faggot
My point was that you shouldn't post FED shit on a fucking imageboard you fucking retard. Glowniggers are most certainly lurking this board.
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>>11817
No, you were banned for calling something that isn't remotely evoking of federal attention, as if it were somehow worthy of it, No you didn't break a specific rule, you annoyed me. Yes there is "federal" attention  directed at this board, we got the entire site banned in Russia after all. It changes nothing.
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>>557
It was 35 and 18 though, meaning he was okay with guys going with girls approximately half the man's age.
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>>11837
Letting a girl marry at like 12-15 good for pair-bonding, healthy kids and bloodline can continue with children born from even 25 and a bit later aged women, but peak is a little after the woman in question reaches her maturity (not starting puberty but still having strong hormones etc I'd average around 17)

The key factors though beyond health and maturity is the bond and connection, and especially in current times, avoidance of mental and physical toxins the girl is exposed to, and virginity. 

It's basic logic but rape and abuse is different than having a wholesome pairing from a young age such as 12 for example, and having a girl pair and grow through their puberty with their husband when the girls brain has very high Neuroplasticity not only has the girl bond deeper to the man, but also the way of life and learning, this also puts more responsibility on the man as he is going to be the largest shaper of her aside from her base genetics, and a man can be called to question for how his wife behaves or if she shows signs of being abused or otherwise not taken care of properly. A girl who is already say 18 at time of meeting, most of her is already formed and while she will mold where she can, she has already been built and carries whatever she developed before meeting her husband forever, she sees and has grown with a more individualistic role of her being by herself which will stay forever.
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>>11837
You're ignoring the broader context. Aristotle said explicitly in the very same text that mothers younger than 18 tend to produce sickly offspring, so he very clearly didn't advocate for something as simple as men pairing with women half their age.
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>>11845
And yet it's the women that die from not having birthing hips and not the children being sickly that was always the issue. Sounds like he was telling men what they needed to hear as if she died giving birth you'd just get another woman. Plato didn't agree also. Plato was more half your age plus 7 tier but also was pre-18 in opinion. 

If men are not virgins by 35 then what he meant was basically a trick to make him worry over his heir.  To protect the woman with a lie. Hmm. 
>>11844
Women reach their adult height by about 15ish actually and my grandmother was married by 15 and started fucking by 13. Just because Aristotle's citizens grew slower does not negate this. We are more hormonal and fatter and taller than yesteryear's humans so by 18 he meant 15 by today's standards. Also we are more educated. The reason kids go to k-12 and are told not to have sex is to turn them into coprorate slaves that don't need pari bonding, they get used to only caring about following the boss's/teacher's orders and making money. It's why they want kdis to have a job by 16 but in  at least one US state the porn age was 21 and now the smoking age is 21, often the age to own a gun is 21, but you  can still join the military before even 18. Both words rape and abuse are buzzwords. Rape means to seize and abuse means basically you did not obey master. Rape of the state implies you stole the girl from the state of which owns her and wants her to concentrate on being a hard corporate worker rather than your loving wife. A man having a gun too young becomes a huntsman and also is distracted from his corporate slave destiny. In times past when my granny was getting the dick at 13 we still had small businesses. Now you are enslaved so naturally the system works due to ages of consent. It used to allow orphanages to enslave children but the women complained about it as they also demanded to be enslaved themselves, ergo all this bullshit is women's fault so I'm not feeling sorry for them regardless of the circumstances nor political rhetoric. Had women stayed out of politics we'd have more Samuel L Colts and men would be stronger due to not being coddled and the men would be paid twice as much due to less competition, the women took half the good jobs. Not only are women raised by 18 as you state but they also lose the v-card by 15ish to this day and only a fool would question that if that is true and also only a fool would think men don't want virgins, even while ignoring microchimerism men want vigins. 

But yeah, I pretty much agree with you. 

>control plus f degeneracy
>23 times
>control puls f banned
>20 times 
Oh yeah, I forgot to point out that degeneracy is having too many sex partners, not the ages. Raising people to be okay with marrying later on makes them slut-brained. 

enjoy giving the child support checks out lest you dno't even have children and the white race dies.
>>11849
I'll respond fully later, but yes, women on the whole are basically fully developed by age 15 and many are nearly maxed out at 13-14.
>T. In the field of education around all ages. (your welcome data-miners)
>>11849
>it's all women fault goy
Typical ((( tricks ))). Get new material, rabbi.
>>11836
>No, you were banned for calling something that isn't remotely evoking of federal attention
No, I was banned because you're a dogshit BO who has the moderation abilities equivalent to a redditor and discord tranny.
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>>558
>but Ephebophilia is not a problem.
The only reason you're an ephebophile is because you're an anime-watching degenerate. In reality, women giving birth as young as 14 carries significant health risks. 

>There is modern scientific research that suggests Aristotle was wrong on that front
There is no robust modern scientific evidence supporting your claim. In fact, contemporary data consistently show that marrying in the mid-to-late 20s (or later) is associated with lower divorce rates, while very early marriages (especially before 20) correlate with higher risks of dissolution. Aristotle recommended women marry around age 18 and men around 37 for optimal health and reproductive outcomes, not younger ages. It should also be noted that in classical Athens, women were largely confined to the home and accompanied by male relatives when outside (with exceptions for certain religious festivals or lower-status women working), while prostitutes operated in designated areas.

>Tacitus's Germania is untrustworthy, people honestly give it way too much credit, there is much to suggest he wasn't depicting the Germanic people as they truly were, but was writing a critique of Rome
It seems to me that your disagreement stems less from factual inaccuracies and more from discomfort with how he portrays Germanic societies, in ways that clash with your worldview. That said, Tacitus explicitly describes Germanic youths delaying sexual activity and marriage until full physical maturity (late teens or early adulthood for vigor), praising this as producing stronger offspring, not abstinence until age 25 which showcase that even the Romans may have preferred women over 17 as suitable for motherhood. Even if he's lying for propaganda and his personal beliefs, there are still aspects of his works that I can find believable, because they are still true to this day.

>>11849
>Aristole and Plato
Aristotle explicitly recommended women marry at about 18 and men at 37 (or a bit before) so their physical primes align for healthy offspring and fertility decline coincides. He worried early intercourse stunted growth and produced weaker kids, plus risks to the mom, exactly the opposite of endorsing teen births. Plato in the Republic set women's childbearing window at 20 to 40, no pre-18 teens, no "half plus seven" bullshit, and definitely no 13-15 year olds.

>Women reach their adult height by about 15ish actually and my grandmother was married by 15 and started fucking by 13. Just because Aristotle's citizens grew slower does not negate this. We are more hormonal and fatter and taller than yesteryear's humans so by 18 he meant 15 by today's standards.
Anecdote isn't evidence. Girls hit adult height around 14-16 today (post-menarche ~12), but full pelvic maturity for low-risk childbirth is late teens to early 20s with the pelvis widening into 25-30 for optimal dimensions. Birthing at 13-16 spikes risks hard eclampsia, obstructed labor, preterm/low birth weight babies, higher mom and infant death. Teen moms under 16 get wrecked compared to 20-35 window. Aristotle intuited the risks.

>We are more hormonal and fatter and taller than yesteryear's humans so by 18 he meant 15 by today's standards.
Menarche dropped over centuries due to better nutrition from 15-17 in 1800s Europe to 12 now in West. Earlier puberty, but risks didn't drop; obesity actually worsens complications. Girls hit signs earlier but aren't "more ready" for safe pregnancy, optimal still 20+.

>women... lose the v-card by 15ish to this day and only a fool would question that... men want virgins, even while ignoring microchimerism men want vigins.
Average age of first intercourse in US/West is around 17, not "15ish" across the board, plenty wait longer. Microchimerism as "previous dudes' DNA polluting heirs" is retarded bullshit. Male Mc in women is mostly from pregnancy (fetal cells persisting), some speculation on other sources like vanished twin or older brother, but sexual intercourse? No solid evidence it happens or persists long-term from cum. I don't understand why you incelfags are trying to infilitrate Fascism and National Socialism. They would of hated your kind as well. After-all most incels are seething non-Whites who can't get a White GF, and being a White incel is just a way to say you're either asocial or dysgenic.

>Degeneracy is having too many sex partners, not the ages. Raising people to be okay with marrying later on makes them slut-brained.
Fair point. But blaming "corporate slavery" via K-12 and age of consent laws for turning kids into sluts is retarded niggerpill nonsense.

I don't get why you blackpilled incel types keep trying to latch onto fascism or NatSoc like it's your safe space. The original Nazis would've looked down on chronic celibates hard. Reproduction was a straight-up duty for "Aryan" men. They pushed marriage loans, medals for big families, Lebensborn to crank out kids (even out of wedlock for SS), the whole pronatalist machine to build the Volk. An able-bodied guy staying single and childless? Seen as failing the race, probably "asocial" or unfit, maybe even sterilized if they thought you were defective. Hitler and Himmler weren't handing out pity points to lonely men; it was breed or be irrelevant. If you're White and can't get laid, then you're likely unfit. If you chose not to, then you're not an incel just a man with high standards. I can understand the later, but not the former. Besides, most incels are not even White.

>>11853
Whine about this in the meta thread.
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>>11854
>I don't get why you blackpilled incel types keep trying to latch onto fascism or NatSoc like it's your safe space.
Probably because NS correctly identifies the problem which lead to the degradation of social conditions which render them unable to find a good woman.
>The original Nazis would've looked down on chronic celibates
The NatSocs created conditions such that remaining celibate was truly a choice or the result of extreme dysfunction. You cannot compare the environment of NS Germany with things like
>marriage loans, medals for big families, Lebensborn 
to the current globohomo environment where White men are discriminated against in literally everything and family is only seen as an economic burden and suppressed as such.
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>>11855
>Probably because NS correctly identifies the problem which lead to the degradation of social conditions which render them unable to find a good woman.
This is partly aligned with National Socialist thought. The Führer and the Party repeatedly condemned the Weimar era's degeneracy. Feminism, urban individualism, Jewish-influenced cultural Bolshevism, contraception, and career women as causes of plummeting birth rates and the weakening of German family bonds. Hitler himself spoke of how modern life turned women away from their sacred duty as mothers. So yes, NS identified many of the same "problems" that lead to racial decline and difficulty in forming strong Aryan families. But the solution was not victimhood or complaint, it was iron discipline, state direction, and racial duty. Weak men blaming the system would have been seen as unworthy of the Volk.

>The NatSocs created conditions such that remaining celibate was truly a choice or the result of extreme dysfunction.
This is false from the standpoint of true National Socialism. Reproduction was not a "choice". It was a racial obligation to the eternal Volk. For racially valuable Germans, remaining childless or celibate without extreme cause (severe illness or hereditary defect) was viewed as betrayal of blood and nation. The regime imposed heavy taxes on childless couples and unmarried men under 55 (the Ehestandshilfe surcharge, up to 5% of income), funded marriage loans forgiven only through producing children (25% per child, fully erased at four). Social stigma was immense, childless adults were seen as selfish parasites on the national community. In the SS, Himmler explicitly mandated every man father at least four children (in or out of wedlock via Lebensborn), calling it the minimum for a sound marriage. Healthy Aryan men could not stay single otherwise they would be labeled asocial, potentially facing scrutiny, loss of promotion, or worse if deemed unfit. Celibacy for able-bodied racial comrades was dysfunction itself, failure to pass on valuable blood. The Party did not create a paradise of "free choice"; it used carrots (loans, medals like the Mother's Cross) and sticks (taxes, stigma) to force multiplication.

>You cannot compare the environment of NS Germany with things like to the current globohomo environment where White men are discriminated against in literally everything and family is only seen as an economic burden and suppressed as such.
You are correct that today's liberal-democratic, Jewish-plutocratic world order actively destroys the folkish community, promoting feminism, mass immigration, usury, degeneracy, and viewing children as burdens rather than the future of the race. It discriminates against the creative racial stock while subsidizing the inferior. NS Germany fought precisely against such a system. However, your comparison weakens when you portray modern involuntary celibacy as equivalent to some noble struggle. In the Third Reich, the state removed many barriers (economic recovery, loans, expelling Jewish influence from culture/media) and demanded men step up; marry racially pure women, build large families, serve the Volk. If a healthy Aryan man remained childless amid those conditions, the regime would question his worthiness. Perhaps asocial, weak-willed, or harboring hidden defects. Excuses like "the environment made it impossible" would ring hollow; true National Socialists overcame obstacles through will and duty. Modern decay is worse, yes, but it does not excuse personal failure. The answer is struggle, self-improvement, and rebuilding the racial community, not niggerpill despair.
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>>11857
All of those things happened AFTER the Reich was in power. We do not have a Reich in power. To ask men to try to find a woman and reproduce today is the equivalent to asking the same thing during Weimar NOT the Reich.
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>>11858
The National Socialist movement did not begin in 1933 with the Machtergreifung already secured. It began in the far worse conditions of post-Versailles Weimar hyperinflation, mass unemployment, Jewish-Bolshevist street terror, cultural filth everywhere, SA men being murdered weekly, the Party banned in multiple states, no state support whatsoever. That was the real "Weimar hellscape", orders of magnitude more hostile than today's soft liberal democracy with its Tinder and welfare safety nets.
Yet what did the early National Socialists do? They did not whine that "the environment prevents us from marrying and breeding, wait until the Reich exists or muh collapse." They fought, organized, sacrificed, married anyway, and had children anyway. Hitler himself noted proudly that the SA and early Party members were overwhelmingly young men who built families even while under constant threat. Birth rates among committed National Socialists rose sharply long before 1933 because true racial comrades saw reproduction as a revolutionary act against the decaying system. To say "I cannot breed until the Reich exists" is to admit you lack the iron will that built the Reich in the first place. The men who stormed the Feldherrnhalle, who bled in street battles, who filled the early concentration camps after 1933 they did not make excuses. They acted. I swear most of you aren't even genuine National Socialists or fascists, you're just reactionaries. Reactionaries, on the other hand, historically just complained and waited for a king or old order to save them, much like the conservative monarchists who impotently opposed the French Revolution without creating anything new, ultimately failing while radicals on both sides reshaped the world. Even Rockwell would of called you out.
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>>11859
Maybe you're right. It's just difficult to understand how one can have a decent family and marriage unless there is some kind of brotherhood at play. Perhaps organization will solve it, idk.
>>11859
>It began in the far worse conditions of post-Versailles Weimar hyperinflation, mass unemployment, Jewish-Bolshevist street terror, cultural filth everywhere, SA men being murdered weekly, the Party banned in multiple states, no state support whatsoever. That was the real "Weimar hellscape", orders of magnitude more hostile than today's soft liberal democracy with its Tinder and welfare safety nets.

Tools available to the Powers of Darkness today are far greater than those they had in their disposal during Weimar times. Just because they're (usually) more subtle (but it's not like we're not seeing a re-use of ye old communist terror group police turns a blind eye to) doesn't mean they're less effective.

You ever tried to pull a roastie from her phone? Or wrap your head around what is in that phone?
>>11861
I would say it's roughly equal to the worst days of Weimar in terms of difficulty. If only because the advantages of spreading our propaganda via the internet offsets the disadvantage of a surveillance state for the most part.
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>>11864
If we're talking about possibility of forming a family, one has to take into account that back then, the idea that Man was the head of the household was still in place. Feminism was still relatively new. So, the difficulty came mostly from cruel hardship on the outside.

But in the contemporary West, there are anti-family laws, framed as "protecting women", and cops are far too eager to get involved in domestic disputes that shouldn't be their fucking business. So, the State, not you, is the real authority at home, and it's not a National Socialist one, not even an apathetic democratic one, but a hostile one. And women for sure know it, even if shrewd ones would let you pretend you are 'in charge' for a while.

And then, there's the god damn phone from which any modern woman from 6 to 60 is seemingly inseparable. Pumping purest jewish poison straight into her brain 24/7, because anti-family laws weren't enough. 

Fuck it, it's not just fucking women. Ted Kaczynski got betrayed by his own god damn brother. The lad who shot that unfunny jew-lover Charlie 'Kike' Kirk got done by his own dad, at least if JeetBI story is to be believed (it's probably all bullshit, but it's telling that dad is going along with it instead of fighting to save his son). MEN of your own flesh and blood, not some cunt you bumped into at random and had sex with ( as she did with dozens of men before, will do after, or, worst case scenario, even while you're married). So, in addition to cruel hardship "from the outside", one should realistically expect to be stabbed in the back by members of one's own family. No wonder people go incel. At least if you're an incel, then, as Kipling put it:
>One may fall, but he falls by himself
>Falls by himself, with himself to blame
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>>11861
>You ever tried to pull a roastie from her phone
I doubt half of you have even talked to women or went outside for that matter.
>>11861
Yeah, smartphones and social media are a modern poison. But compare that to actual Weimar. >hyperinflation where a wheelbarrow of cash couldn't buy bread
>30-40% unemployment peaks
>widespread starvation/poverty
>literal street battles with hundreds killed yearly (SA vs. Reds)
>Communist/Nazi paramilitaries murdering each other weekly
>no welfare safety net worth shit. 
Early NSDAP members, mostly young men in their 20s/30s, still married, had kids, built families right in that chaos because breeding for the Volk was revolutionary defiance against the decaying system.
Today's "tools of darkness" are indeed subtle brainwashing via TikTok/Instagram algorithms pushing degeneracy. But, Weimar's? Open Bolshevik terror, economic collapse that wiped out the middle class overnight, actual civil war conditions.  Excusing childlessness because "muh smartphones worse than hyperinflation" is just admitting weakness. The Reich wasn't built by men waiting for perfect conditions, it was forged by those who acted despite hell.
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>>11865
One would need a very strong community to counteract the modern rot. These communities are usually religious in nature.
>>11869
Seems to me there needs to be hardcore leadership, otherwise the chuds are right and nothing will ever happen.
>>11868
Just because you don't understand that comment means you're projecting. Great job mcfailed normie.
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>>11871
A classic case of a shut-in calling others shut-ins for pointing out issues which are obvious if you attempt to interact with the public.
>>11868
Dear GCHQ emoloyee, you clicked on a wrong bookmark. Again.
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>>11869
>pen Bolshevik terror, economic collapse that wiped out the middle class overnight, actual civil war conditions
Here's a thing, you quadruple nigger gypsies. All those are things that attack from outside your small circle of light. It's a very different situation from one where you can't expect your own brother to not turn you in to the secret police, and not because he's a half-starved hobo on the streets who might feed himself for a few days on whatever scraps cops give him for good goy behaviour, but because there's an Electric Jew inside his head.

Are you a Christian? Because what you're saying is incredibly similar to "find yourself a nice church girl", except with Hitler instead of Jesus. Needless to say, many young and not-so-young men's lives had been ruined by "nice church girls" (who have Tinder and Instagram).
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>>11875
>It's a very different situation from one where you can't expect your own brother to not turn you in to the secret police, and not because he's a half-starved hobo on the streets who might feed himself for a few days on whatever scraps cops give him for good goy behaviour, but because there's an Electric Jew inside his head.
The Covid quarantine years come to mind. What a grim panorama of humanity those presented.
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>>11875
>>11878
We'll have to be much more deliberate with our in-groups this time around because of this issue. Even families are divided this time around. Find people who already agree with you and tribe up. Trying to convince some center left ignoramus just because he's your neighbor will end in failure.
>>11871
>>11874
The asshurt is literal proof. None of you queers proved me wrong. And I can make this assertion, because faggots like you always spew the most retarded and unrealistic bullshit on the site.
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>>11880
It's like when Groypers go around declaring every White woman or every woman is fucking niggers. Or they automatically assume a hot chick is fucking a nigger. It's insecure and retarded.
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>>11880
>>11881
Your post >>11868 
Made it sound like you were being defeatist. As in "none of you have talked to women therefore you don't know how incurable everything is".
Big misunderstanding aside, there's something that isn't adressed nearly enough in this conversation whenever it pops up: How are you going to keep your family/community safe and sound?
>>11844
>having a girl pair and grow through their puberty with their husband
I swear I'll line zoomers against a wall if I ever hear them using "their" again when clearly discussing about a male or some female. How can you ever hope to resist, at the very least mentally, not even physically, if you cannot even shake off that gay ass feminist grammatical subversion, you fucking absolute moron?
It's
>her puberty
Not
>their puberty

>>11849
>Also we are more educated
*indoctrinated
I'd take your average Archaic Greece Yannos over any current random Joe without any second guessing.
>It's why they want kdis to have a job by 16
Which would mean a "kid" could actually begin winning some money and find a girl, perhaps one year younger.
>Had women stayed out of politics
Weak men let them in, dullard. Women can't force themselves into anything, they're holes by definition.
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>>11910
Oh no, I made a grammatical slip due to mentally thinking of girls in the plural while writing about a singular instance of one, I must be weak and limp! Ignore the entire premise being pro-white and against subversion with AOC and related laws to suppress healthy white mating!
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The moment they started recalling troops, I knew what was to come. The latest evolution? Convenient. When looking at who benefits from this, it's certainly not Whites, unless you truly thinks that ICE is going to whiten the lands and remove the jews. All leftists are conveniently being agitated to throw themselves at ICE agents while eschewing the more useful pro-Palestinian message, and all is being done to make it possible for a martial law to happen. I don't want that shabbo ICE scam, I'm not getting sucked into those fake games. I want the real deal, the Gestapo.
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>>12330
>pic
As usual leftards are late to the party by decades. American police in general (and I think it's the same in Europe) has been trained by Israeli instructors for longer than many of us have been alive. All the corruption, incompetence, abysmal hiring standards, idiotic cruelty and sadistic brutality that have been plaguing our police departments aren't just a symptom of decay, they're a carefully cultivated syndrome.
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>>12332
What a holdup on hard right and far right parties and movements. People would rather be thrown crumbs and keep their dwindling comfort with jews on top than take the real risk for the real reward of true freedom and full control of one's nation, kike-free. All the far right groups and neutralized and made Zio-compliant. Of course the leftists see a portion of this and it makes them rightfully seethe. Nothing good will happen until people understand that we need to be racist and with the jews removed forever.
Is this a blackpilling article full of made up figures ? Or is it real ?
https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-richest-man-in-the-world/
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>>12346
How many times do you stupid niggers gotta be told to USE ARCHIVE LINKS INSTEAD OF PASTING DIRECT ONES? It's the most basic shit, it's 101, not following such basic kindergarten-level opsec should be a bannable offense.
>>12347
Corollary: You could also just post a screencap of the article. Just take a couple extra minutes of your time, it's not hard.
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>>12347
>>12348
Or you could stop acting like emasculated nancies and know enough about opsec so that you can visit those websites safely enough, because even your precious archive sites are linked to big companies.
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>>12349
Archive links are used so that what is seen cannot be changed, not for opsec, though the websites track where they're accessed from which may be the issue for that guy, regardless, yes stop bitching about not using it. It's not a rule.
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>>12351
I'm talking about opsec because there's an illeterate member whining about opsec. Otherwise I assume you're smart enough to archive the stuff on your own devices instead of counting on other people somewhere on this planet whom you know nothing about.
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>>12357
>illeterate
>>12347
>archives in 2026
No those sites just disappear. It's been years and they keep serially disappearing all for nothing. So either save sites locally or you take full page screencap or do both or more. You can still archive but there's a very big chance site ((( (goes offline )))..
You can tell how easily brainwashed the normalcattle are when they still call the lockdown years "the pandemic" even though it was all so blatantly fake and it was all a seasonal flu, not to mention more people died to the vaccines (which are a whole other can of worms) than to the supposed supervirus. Even when the authorities kept changing their story time and time again, even in those rare occasions they admitted they were lying. This alone should make any aspiring fascist understand that trying to reach normalniggers is a doomed endeavor because they only ever believe (or rather parrot) whatever the TV says.

Trying to get them to stand up for themselves is also pointless and futile, if being locked down in their homes while politicians were still going to parties, strong-armed into taking an untested injection into their veins under threat of unemployment, and being subjected to all the other idiotic rules that nobody in power was made to obey doesn't inspire them to rebel, nothing will. That and the shitskin rape gangs, of course, if seeing their preteen daughters raped and forced into prostitution by racial aliens doesn't make them angry enough to start fighting back, nothing will.

Bottom line, forget about the cattle. Focus on reaching out to those who are awake, those who are actually willing to take action besides going on useless protests or writing to their Congressman. When the real fight begins, disregard the normalfags then too. Those who can swim will swim, and those who won't will drown. Leave them to their fate. Don't count your enemies, only your friends.
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>>12504
But how can we achieve victory without reaching to the normies doe?
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>>12511
You let them die, they aren't strictly necessary, they're more often traitors than not, this isn't a game where caring is going to help.
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>>12512
But you can’t win if you let the normies get killed by hordes of feral shitskins because then you’re left with a few whites among a huge brown hordes.
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>>12514
They will call the police on you for being a "hateful nazi terrorist" and then they'll get killed by hordes of feral shitskins anyway.
>>12514
Who said that? Where in the pages of the universe is it written that we need all 700 million whites globally alive today, to survive? I don't recall any such thing written anywhere.
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>>12519
>who said we need to save 700 million of whites in front of billions of feral bloodthirsty brownoids?
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>>12520
I said who said we need them all? never mind that far too many of that number are either too old, patently insane, racially impure or women who won't be of any use in fighting, and barely useful as breeding sows, if they even are useful in that way as many will not be, we don't need to attempt saving all of them, your argument is absurd on it's face, and presupposes that we could somehow unify all of them from Russia to the US and canada, which is impossible.
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>>12521
So who are the whites whose worthy to save? If it’s anyone who embraces NS, you couldn’t survive with them because they compose 3% of total white population globally and are scattered across the whitendom.
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>>12523
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_population
Kill yourself, you whiny concern-trolling homo.
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>>12524
>Small populations are at a greater risk of extinction than larger populations due to small populations having less capacity to recover from adverse stochastic (i.e. random) events.
>Demographic stochasticity is often only a driving force toward extinction in populations with fewer than 50 individuals. Random events influence the fecundity and survival of individuals in a population, and in larger populations, these events tend to stabilize toward a steady growth rate. However, in small populations there is much more relative variance, which can in turn cause extinction.
Imagine that whites are 700 million on this globe compared to 7.3 billions of non-whites thirsty to white blood and you want for the grand majority of total white population to go extinct leaving a small minority to survive without concerns of extinction? Your ideas are suicidal and mortal.
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>>12526
You do know more than half of the nonwhites will die without modern shit propping them up, like 3 billion niggers would disappear in abut two months at most if America ever stopped pumping money into Africa through government aid directives or charity, literally, similar things would happen to both China and India who cannot support their populations without global trade and seem deadset on destroying the entire planet starting with China and the ocean. You're blowing the threat of out of proportion. Yes, if the goal from the outset was killing all of them worldwide, you would need more than a few millions but the first goal is survive which is easily doable with a population as small as 5000 people for genetic fitness longterm.
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USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST We've had idiots like you before, thizs "argument" isn't repeating

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>>12524
>Minimum viable population (MVP) is a lower bound on the population of a species, such that it can survive in the wild.
>in the wild
>IN THE FUCKING WILD
Learn to read you stupid mongrel.
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>>12504
All normies don't know anything about how Sweden was wiped out by the goyid megaplague.
RIP SWEDEN
>>12532
Yes, in the wild. As in, left to its own devices. Which means it's much easier to maintain a healthy MVP if you have any degree of control over it whatsoever, which is what we're setting out to achieve. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, fucktard.
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>>12528
and what about the millions of shitskins who dwell in our homelands? how can you and your 5000 survive feral creatures who'll kill anything paler than them?
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>>12540
Retarded question to ask when the historical record of conflicts between Whites and Africans answers it quite handily.
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>>12561
You know there are not just africans in the west, right? There’s also muslims and latinos (in the US) and they are “a little bit” smarter than niggers and more ruthlessly savage and they’re in millions across the west.
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>>12535
>Yes, in the wild. As in, left to its own devices.
No idiot, in the wild means in the fucking wild. A nation can be totally civilized and "left to its own devices" without having to go shitting in the woods. If today we're pushed back into the wild, we will simply not make it. We need industry and tons of weapons, not turning into half savage hobos.
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>>12565
What about them? We defeated them too. Without kikes and White traitors to undermine our efforts we're perfectly capable of stomping them into the dirt, the numerical disadvantage is irrelevant.

>>12581
This isn't Shitter, rabbi, you can't just change the meaning of words to suit you. Everyone knows what "in the wild" means, quit it with your shitty pilpul.
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>>12585
The thing is not if we’re capable or not, the thing is who is willing to do something atrocious against his enemies? I’ve seen some nazis pussy out with the idea of “dead nigger babies” and moralfag about them. If we want to defeat our enemies so bad we need to dehumanise them to the point there is no pity towards their children, but if all the atrocities done by the shitskins is not enough to dehumanise them to the eyes of our people, i don’t know what they need to wake up.
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The whole eighteen threshold looks more and more like a convenient entrapment scheme to me, put in place to manipulate lusty men who want to have sex with sexy young girls. Prince Andrew? The girl was sixteen if I get it right, who was likely totally impossible to differentiate from an eighteen or nineteen years old.
*ick Fuentes
>video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2029427754962178049/vid/avc1/1280x720/sEPJAkguDMmGzI0_.mp4
>vote goyim, vote for the other side even if you disagree with them because the democracy is either red or blue and right now red is super pro-Israel and pro-Jews so to stop them from having control over our country and for Trump's administration to be prosecuted you NEED to vote for dems, even if they hate Whites, organize the Great Replacement, our extinction, because whatever goes on in the Middle East is more important than the color of the ZOG party that hates and exterminates us
Can't someone kill this shabbo goy already?
Also
>our sons and daughters
This christcuking faggot who rewrites the core message of Christianity, he has no children and never will. It's so painful and cringe to hear him utter those words many times.
>we must unite and free America from his evil occupation
>vote
Cool negroes are our brothers.
And
>I'm still a far right nationalist
That means shit, he's just being a tougher civic nationalist, with the word nation just meaning whoever gets to legally be called American.
>>12709
>the core message of Christianity
And what is that exactly?
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>>12709
upload this shit nigga.
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>>12709
this video is so painfully populist. God.
>That means shit, he's just being a tougher civic nationalist, with the word nation just meaning whoever gets to legally be called American.
Wonderfully put.
>>12716
I live in a poor rural area. Shit is so slow it breaks before the end. So you be an adult, you get clever, you shut the fuck up and you download it.
>>12716
I don’t know if his “multiracial anti-jewish front” will ever success in the long turn, considering the fact that not all races have grudges against the jews, only whites and arabs have reasons to hate on jews but what does other races have? Africans, asians and latinos don’t seem to be bothered about the jews at all, the extremest thing they can go is anti-israel sentiments, but to go further to antisemitism? Nah they hate whites the most.
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>>12779
Niggers are too dumb to begin conceptualizing grudges that go beyond he be snatchin ma chicken bro. You can talk endlessly about who own the slave ship fleet that brought niggers to the whole of the American continent but there will be no computing going on, it's all lost on them.
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>>12715
The subversive anti-White part. Yeshua shills produce their own distilled pilpul to confuse the sheeple.
Fondles keeps beating around the bush, like all christcucks.
>>12793
Well, that is my point. Niggers are too dump to question about the jews, but latinos and asians? Like i said, the extremest they can go is anti-Israeli sentiment, but anti-white narrative is the most occupying in their political beliefs that they think israel is “white” just to not get accused for antisemitism.
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>>12799
Nation of Islam did and may keep pushing Jews = Whites = spawns of Jakub for all I know, but I think they started distancing themselves from this, especially when the respected Rockwell went right into their little congregation and talked to them. Imagine the amount of nigger brains on WTF mode trying to deal with the presence of Captain Nazi sitting in the front row, face to face with their beloved Missia Supanog.
I dont know if this is an unpopular opinion or not so I am just gonna post it here. Jews are evil they are malicious and seek our destruction so we must destfoy the jew before it can destroy us whites. But Niggers for all the harm they cause usually arent that malicious primarily because Niggers are retarded their like animals when your pet does something bad do you hate and blame your pet? Most people I think would say no. Jews are deserving of hate Niggers are deserving of taiming of domestication through controlling their animalistic nature rather then complete extermination.
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>>12898
>Niggers for all the harm they cause usually arent that malicious
Clearly you don't have much experience with niggers. They absolutely are sadistic and vicious. 

>Niggers are deserving of taiming of domestication through controlling their animalistic nature rather then complete extermination.
What the fuck for? They're completely retarded and useless for anything other than brute menial labor, and you have to constantly micromanage them or they'll grow unruly and uppity. Automation rendered niggers obsolete, and they were never that useful in the first place. There's an endless list of negatives to having niggers around, it entirely outweights whatever meager benefit we could get out of them. Plus, the risk that weak-willed bleeding hearts will breed with them. No thanks, just kill them all.
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>>12900 We arent at the point where automation can completely replace Niggers yet so we should allow the use of Nigger slaves for our own gain. Slavery in America functioned effectively for over a hundred years. Having such a system in the modern day would beneficial and when Niggers complety lose purpose we can finally purge them all.
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>>12901
>yes goy we should keep niggers around
>slavery worked wonders in America for a hundred years
Hey waitaminnit, who brought the nigger slaves and owned the great majority of the slave market again?
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America is unsalvageable.

There aren't enough high-IQ white people to right the ship. Even if there were, they're being very successfully kept out of power by the total Jewish stranglehold on universities and other institutions. Every white college kid I meet is a midwit at best, a psychopath willing to say anything for a desk job at worst. Besides, even community college is $10k/year at this point. No one can afford that unless they take predatory private loans or work full-time in addition to school. And the quality of the education is garbage because half the students are bug people, niggers, or foids.

The cities are uninhabitable because the demographics are already cooked and cops don't do shit except arrest people who defend themselves. The country is probably less than 50% white at this point, if we define white as the Founders did, which is to say NW Europeans / Nordics. Trump has already abandoned mass deportations of illegals, let alone all the legal immigrants who shouldn't be here. The Iran war is going to cause massive fertilizer shortages so the admin is handing out even more visas to beaner fruit-pickers.

Our best hope is unironically Iran crashing this Jewish Ponzi scheme world economy with no survivors. I'm not an accelerationist; in fact, I typically despise those people because of their callous disregard for collateral damage to our people. However, I no longer believe that the majority of whites deserve to live. We need mass depopulation, including the inferior specimens of our own race. I have mad respect for Bill Gates and Fauci these days. Anyone who took the vaccine of their own free will is worthless.

I'm not saying that hyperinflation will make things better. But maybe it will curb the US government's ability to nurse the slow decline and our replacement. Someone who actually gives a shit about the nation can take advantage of the chaos and seize power. Likely from within the military or intelligence apparatus.

If that doesn't happen we're screwed. I could see America being even worse than South Africa in 30 years. It's literally incomprehensible to me how bad things have gotten in just the past ten years but here we are.
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>>12904
>There aren't enough high-IQ white people to right the ship
Tell me what happened after Katrina.
The issue isn't a lack of smart white people.
The issue is white faith in the enforcers and judges.
Eliminate the enforcer class and all will be fixed.

>their callous disregard for collateral damage to our people
A species can be either a genetically or behaviorally isolated population.
If you believe that whites and browns shouldn't mix, and they believe that whites and browns should mix, they're a different species.
The opinions of women don't matter because they willingly submit to survive.
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>>12905
>The issue is white faith in the enforcers and judges.
Trusting people who obviously hate you makes you stupid.
>If you believe that whites and browns shouldn't mix, and they believe that whites and browns should mix, they're a different species.
Agreed. White normies and Christians are not part of my tribe. I understand why our elites have always intermarried with Jews. They have more in common with high-IQ whites than the white masses do.
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>>12906
>Trusting people who obviously hate you makes you stupid.
Teachings of Sikhi can save the White Races, but not the Punjabi people.
I prefer anasheed to Gregorian chant. The Mormon Tabernacle Choir is pretty good though
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Not unpopular but many of you out there do need the reminder: ZOGbots are abjectly evil subhumans and the main obstacle towards getting rid of the kikes once and for all. Exterminating them should be a priority of any White revolutionary movement.
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The bluepill should have been the right one, the one leading to awakening. I feel like the Matrix dilemma that became a meme was a subversion.
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>>13043
Please explain.
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>>13048
An odd feeling that picking the color red for truth and blue for illusion was an bizarre choice, almost an inversion. For example, Matrix takes clues, superficial or not, from various faiths including Eastern ones, and one thing certain is that in them blue is associated with wisdom, knowledge and truth. We, typically as Westerners, have also had a habit of using red as a warning for some time. Now, if the pills had been presented to Neo by someone clueless about their power, and their effects, by someone belonging fully to the matrix's reality, then it could somehow make sense because here the red as seen by a typical 90s American would be the danger, but from a higher perspective it would be the danger that needs to be confronted, the wall of fire to cross to reach the truth. That is a point someone may make. But when it is offered by someone who is awakened, a shepherd, there should be no inversion of values, no subversion, no twisted calculations about expectations and results, because the disciple is but a child who's going to operate on instincts. It's either you pick the hard truth, or the comforting lie, presented in the most transparent way, and the goal of the shepherd is to have the child become awakened too, not to scare him into making the wrong choice.
>>12998
The cops deserved the Mafia. I actually had a cousin get shot dead for trying to break and enter this past year and caught my coworkers talking abou it. I pointed out that it was messed up that our cops don't have cameras and the worker said 'naw they actually do'. Finally they indeed do, our sherriff was about the last ever to get them, but he has it to where they don't record anything until the pisol is out of the holster, of which is worse than having no video at all as it takes things ou oft context and makes the cops look in a court of law as though they are in constant danger, making them look more heroic to the sheeple. I had to look it up to see if the worker was right, naturally I did not know as I'm not some drama craving asshole that watches the news, and the faggot enabler cut me off saying 'it's over it's done okay BYE' when they were the ones that brought up my shot dead cousin, of whomst was shot dead right outside of the place we work, in the first place. I had even said I knew his mother and that it was messed up that they had went after him over a digital scale, that is how he got into 'the system'. He was a coin collector. They were all 'no no no that's not true' ignoring the fact that his mother literally worked here. The worker verbally abuses me to this day simply because I was not a  good goyim and was talking shit about the news and the pigs. 

We won't have a revolution with people like that in the way. Guess who protects such a worker? Guess how many are like that? The worker she was talking about it to openly dispised me for not being christian by the way. I had to inject myself into the conversation to see what kind of person the new worker was and also to get the other one to stop poisoning the well. It did not work. 

You know what I hated about liveleak? It would only show either non-US cops getting killed or it would show US cops doing the killing. They kept the vids I wanted to see censored and I'm mad about it to this day how few vids I've seen of cops getting what they deserve. It's ironic for a fascist board to hate on the US cops though, what with how this is a police state and so was Nazi Germany. I was triggered using overboard as usual. If a change in who's in charge happened they'd do as they are told. They are bots, robots can be reprogrammed. It's the mayor, the sheriff, the ignorant masses, they are the enemy and the cop is not even human. Really the ignorant massses are not human either so it's simply mayor, sheriff, rich jews, those are the enemy and to fight the entire group of 'officers' of various types that protect one another is unrealistic outside of all out civil war, of which cannot be realistically won after those cameras went up all over in the 1980s. On top of that they banned privacy in 2001 with 9/11 laws. You can't undo it. Cops were like humans in the 1980s but now no longer. That writer of 1984 was probably a time traveler, that shit is when things got inhuman, the 1980s. 

"The prison system has doubled since 1985" ~soad 9/10/2001

Then it trippled.  In the 1980s and before it cops had long hair and you could drink a beer while driving down the road. This country is as dead as a wise man's sense of patriotism. They did not even have mandatory car insurance if you go back to boomer and pre-boomer days. I want to leave the USA but nobody is going to let that happen. As victory is impossible literally the USA citizens need to be liberated by  another nation. Or not. I hope everyone suffers more if not. There is no need if everyone deserves it. I just want everyone to know how bad things are and they stick their fingers in their ears and go la la la irl.
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>>13053
I sympathize with most of the sentiments expressed in your post but quit being a defeatist, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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*sheriff
*despised
I can spell. Believe.
>>13053
I don't want you to dox yourself but could we have a bit of context about this? I feel like I'm catching a movie mid-length.
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>>13059
My life is not beginning nor over so it is in essence a movie mid length. If I told my auto-biography nobody would care and it'd indeed be a auto-dox. My specific anecdotal experience and it's intimate details don't add much to my cathartic induced point that things are rather hopeless without actual mayhem no matter how assharmed I am about the pigs sucking down air. 

With the amount of information I gave you just saying the county would be a potential dox. What context?
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*an auto-dox
>>13072
Your writing style alone makes thing cryptic.
The derad who swings by every now and then to bust our balls is actually Orlog trying to ragebait us into arguments to raise the board's traffic.
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>>13107
Nope, sorry.
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>>13120
It's OK Orlog, you gotta do what you gotta do. :^)
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I love rap music. Most of the popular stuff now is garbage. Tbh, a lot of it has always been. Gangsta rap started in the late 80s and caught flak from black people immediately for being a bad influence. But there have always been a lot of great pro-black, Christian, Muslim, whatever rappers too. Listening to that sort of music actually helped lead me to white nationalism and I'll always be grateful.
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>>13484
Don't let politics dissuade you from good music. Politicizing everything is a cancer, look at FOSS as an example. Judge media by how good it's own metrics.
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>>13484
I've got some rap for you anon.
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>>13488
The only moonman song I like is the one about the pulse nightclub shooting lol (49 faggot and one dune coon)
>>13487
Kanye's Jew naming was the last straw that convinced me to detransition I'll always love that guy
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From a pragmatic perspective, i see nothing wrong with the idea of allying or having relationships with israel, it has proven that the best way for JQ is to send them all back to their homeland rather than genocide, even hitler himself was in favour to deport them out of europe towards Madagascar.
Today, grand majority of westerners from various racial backgrounds and political spectrum have adapted an anti-Israeli narrative, and it happens that those “anti-Israeli” are our rivals, it would be a golden opportunity for having bargain with the jews “let us take over authority in our nations, and we will let go back to your original homeland safe and sound and give you permission to take over gaza and the west bank to build settlements”, once jewish dominance in the west is gone and every jew is residing in Israel, we will have the liberty to do everything in favour of our race against other races who are truly our enemies and a threat to us.
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>>13492
(You)
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>>13492
This makes sense, because israel is a national socialist state with a  racial caste system, like how most fascists want. Is like how the KKK was friends with black supremacists.
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>>13494
Sorry for being a high-IQ racist instead of a low-IQ one.
>>13492
Israel is too geopolitically important of a location imo. But the Jews totally run America so it isn't like we have the power to do anything currently. Begging them to please let us control our countries is pathetic though
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>>13496
Israel is not even remotely NS and they don't actually have a racial caste system they just don't prevent natural segregation for the jews of more mixed racial background that do exist within Israel, they have an entire portion of nigger jews for instance and they do not seem to be overly persecuted, as they literally segregated themselves in their own communities within Israel.
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>>13494
definitely the second one
>>13497
It’s not begging, it’s more like they'll be forced to rely on us once they lose populace empathy. Currently, the only category in the west that shows any support to israel are evangelical boomers, and soon they will die off, and that’s a bad news for the jews, they’ll be left with mobs of anti-jews and the new ruling elites will be anti-israeli for sure (they’re not necessarily going to be NS). Apparently, we’re supposed to exploit the situation by presenting them a satisfactory offer for both of us.
>>13500
I think this view of Israel being a “second apartheid state” is something made up by leftist. There are non-jewish groups such as arabs, armenians and circassians lives in that jewish state, they all have citizenship and the same rights as the average shlomo, Palestinians in the west bank literally works in Israel and get their payments from Israeli financial ministry (even their president do). But i believe this soft treatment towards non-Jewish minorities (especially Muslim arabs) is because they do not want to anger the international community and face procedures such as international isolation, remove these fears and they will show up their racial chauvinism.
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I'm not left nor right, not conservative nor liberal, not trad not prog, and not Republican nor Democrat.

The Nazis reject me, so do the libertarians. My political views are a mixed bag of ideas from various political ideologies, with heavy modifications of my own made to them

My political views start out sounding libertarian, but take a turn that most libertarians wouldn't support, but that doesn't mean the natsocs or whitenats would be okay with me, either.

Start with a night watchman minarchist state (the people are not given any rights because they are by default free to do anything they want except break the laws, and the government is by default not allowed to do anything except what is strictly necessary to preserve itself from threats and to minimize the number of times when its laws are broken), the principle of nonaggression being the only laws (do not interact with the persons/bodies or property/belongings of others without having their informed voluntary and unrevoked consent to the interaction, additionally all eligible citizens must pay their taxes when they are due), and the georgian lvt (a percentage of the lands value being taken as a taxation, in exchange for the taxpayer being able to vote in elections, I'd also like to make front line service in the military or police or emergency response be a requirement for purchasing or holding land), and elections being held by a voting process I approve of (one that sees voters rank all candidates in order of preference on a ballot, being able to assign the same rank to multiple candidates, or to leave any candidate unranked, and then the count begins to find out who has the least first place rankings, and they will be removed from the running and stricken from all ballots, bumping up any candidates below them whenever their removal creates an empty space on the ballots rankings, and the process is repeated until only one candidate remains, who is crowned the winner).

But then wed ask the question who should be counted as a member of the people? To whom or to what should the NAP be applicable? And there I've decided that only those with at least one Y-chromosome in their DNA, low eumelanin levels in their skin, hair, and eyes, and are old enough to be capable of having biological children of their own should be considered human by the state/government and have the laws be applicable to them. White females in particular should be dejure outlawed and defacto enslaved, being reduced to chattel property to belong to white men (such as their fathers, brothers, sons, uncles, cousins, nephews, or other male relatives, until the ownership of them is transferred to another white man who becomes their new owners, aka their husbands). Also Democrat supporting white boys should spend their childhoods learning how to be warriors, as the most important jobs in any society have historically been the warrior caste of police and militia, violence is the most essential atomic element of all society and civilization.. Lastly I'd like to make an additional law that has a penal colony established somewhere only for those men who either have had sex with another male of any age or species (sex being defined as any act that may transmit diseases through bodily fluids such as saliva or sexual fluids), as sending the faggots away would cause them to come volunteer to be banished into exile rather than drive them deeper underground and having them hide out among us like a cancerous tumor waiting to spread. Also I'd like to have a royal family above the ministers who would hold veto power over anything they could do (but cannot initiate any action on their own). Kings and emperors are great and we wouldn't need to worry about queens.

When the 4chan hack occurred in 2025 and we discovered it was getting a majority of its posts from isreal ips beginning in 2014. Confirming the common claim that 4chans good /b/ years were the decade from 03 to 13. Now everyone using it is newfag cancer.

Here's some for you: a cogitation on ethics and morality.

- What makes something good or evil?
- For the majority of human history, morality came from the gods, what God was pleased by was good, what God was displeased by was evil.
- But why was that?
- Could it be because God had created everything?
- But how do we know he did that? What reason does that give us to consider him to be the best authority on what we are to do? Does it stand to reason that the creator of something is the best authority on how to use what they've made?
- the answer to those three questions are that we can't know if God actually made everything, and even have ample reason to believe he did not, that even if he did we would have no cause to consider him the ultimate authority just on his having created everything, and from history we've seen the most common use of things be far removed from the purpose intended by it's creators, also there's the logic that if creation = authority than children who are the product of their parents bodies would have to recognize their parents as their owners who may do as they please with them and to whom they must always be unfailingly obedient.
- Is it because God is the wisest?
- What is wisdom but the knowledge of good and evil? Isn't that a circular logic (that the one who best knows what is moral best knows what is moral because they are the one that best knows what is moral - or so they claim to)? And how can we know if God is actually the wisest being as he so claims? If we are to accept this than we must completely discard our own moral feelings entirely when reading the word of God and use the sacred texts (eg. The bible or the quaran) as the source of orders we must follow to the letter, without imposing our own interpretations or emotions upon what it tells us to do (look at the year of living biblically for an experiment in what this might be like - it takes an atheist to take religion seriously).
- So should we obey God because he says what is moral? Or should we obey God because morality is whatever he says?
- the classic eupythro dilemma, where both paths lead to interesting places.
- in the second solution, called the divine command principle, where whatever God says is moral because God said it and morality is absolute obedience to God, doing whatever is pleasing to him, and not doing what is displeasing to him, we again ask why this is.
- not because he is the creator, and not because he is the most wise, but because those who make God happy get rewarded with the greatest pleasure possible (Heaven) and those who make God unhappy get punished with the worst pain possible (Hell).
- So the authority here that serves as the standard of morality is not God per we, but instead the pleasure principle. We should do whatever gives us the greatest pleasure and the least pain.
- moving away from religious morality, we have the much more secular normative ethics like utilitarianism and deontology, but exploring the arguments made by their proponents we ultimately come to the same underlying principle of personal pleasure.
- for example, people arguing for freedom of speech saying that without it society would collapse, but why should that be relevant to ethics or morals or good and evil at all? Well because wouldn't you dislike it if society collapsed? Which is the admission of the pleasure principle being the true nature of all morals and ethics in the normative sphere.
- its worth noting that normative ethical systems were devised as a way of making people act in ways consistent with Christian religious morality without requiring them to believe in religious concepts like God or make any reference to them.
- also, to distinguish between the principle of personal pleasure from utilitarianism, the letter concerns itself with the pleasure of everyone it includes in the number it applies its ratios to, while the former is concerned only with the pleasure of oneself, they use the utilitarian ratio, but only applied to one individual, the actor themselves.
- to address the problems with utilitarianism, deontology builds off of it in making a set of rules that should be followed, and emphasizing obedience to these rules, so as to better serve the ratio, and this rule utilitarianism can be applied to a group of any size, including the one, so we can say that one should make a set of rules that one should apply to themselves to maximize their pleasure (and theirs alone) while minimizing their pain (and theirs alone).
- a self serving self centered selfish morality of the individual doing what most benefits themselves seeking to maximize their joy and minimize their misery over the long term is endorsed by thinkers who ponder their way to the core of ethics, realizing strategy is what makes such a view, called hedonism or egoism or illegalism or amoralism or radical individualism among other names, far different from the chaotic anarchic impulsive and possibly criminal vision most people have in mind when they encounter such ideas and envision what ought-to's may come of such a mentality (usually due to them feeling they must refute this idea out of social conditioning by society; fears about what this might be drive them to assume that it must be what they fear and that drives them to fight its potential influence rather than asking questions about what kinds of behaviors would actually come out of someone who abides by this anti-ethical amoral outlook)
- but we can go a step further to ask why things make us feel good and produce desires, and why other things make us feel bad and produce fears.
- the answer is evolution, and the selfish gene is perhaps the best explanation of why we have a sense of morality or a need to he ethical at all. Because it increased the likelihood of the genes in our ancestors increasing in number, being passed on to future generations and becoming more widespread and outlasting other genes they were in competition with them.
- so the true nature of morals and ethics are to enable us to propagate copies of genetics like our own as much as possible.
- from this we can conclude that racism is 100% ethical, and anti+racism is in fact unethical.
- morality is helping our genes to spread in proportion to other genes.
- I can go further and say that what is most important is increasing the number of genes that are recessive and beautiful, for what is beauty but the possession of the most desirable genes to a potential reproductive partner?
- hence why we should all do all we can to increase the percentage and number of humans who have pale or fair skin, blue or green eyes, and blonde or red hair.
- more in depth, we should increase the amount of humans with low levels if eumelanin, both in the number of such individuals, and in the ratio of them in comparison to humans who don't possess such features.
- also, we can discard God and religion, because a few steps ago we figured out what God and the afterlife truly are.
- back when we had a king, he could use the threat of force or deprivation to control his subjects and prevent them from refusing to cooperate/contribute/produce, or from breaking the rules/laws the king had established, or from rebellion or revolt against him. But when the king or his men couldn't detect every criminal they needed a way to control even those who couldn't be caught, so they invented a super-king who could see all and know all and who had such great power he could never be resisted, and those who obeyed him were rewarded with the best possible most desirable things, while those who disobeyed were punished with the worst most feared things, but only after death when whether or not the person received either could no longer be verified.
- and we also figured out where the first road of the eupythro dilemma went, back when we asked where Gods moral authority actually came from.

It seems from the philosophical method that the root of all ethics and morals, religious and secular, is the maximization of personal pleasure and minimization of personal pain in the subjective experience of the individual, therefore this is the true nature of good and evil.

But as what makes us happy or sad originates from the history of biological evolution by natural selection, and as that process is the successfulness of genetic information in being used in the production of new organisms, we can therefore move past our experiences to the genes that are responsible for them, and in so doing make the longevity of genes into our moral standard for knowing good from bad, and deciding what out goals should be.

But further from this I conclude that the genes for the most attractive traits and the most recessive phenotypes among humanity should be preserved above all other concerns or consideration.

Pale to fair skin, possibly with freckles.
Blonde to red hair, completely genetic in nature.
And blue or green eyes.
Genes that code for traits that originate from low levels of eumelanin pigmentation.

We should kill all who don't meet this aesthetic standard. Looks are everything.

Also I included some ideas for a political system that you probably will have some issue with, keep in mind I am posting it to ask for critique and tweaks to make it better, or to convince me to adopt a different idea entirely.
>>13511

I'm supportive of new ideological creations but my fundamental criticism in your belief you have in "minarchism" as in minimal government, is in effect a  "work in progress" state, not a real state apparatus to support the people and nation. 

That is also highly inefficient and requires something that we don't have right now which is 100% RACIAL HOMOGENEITY, and complete ideological unity especially in the fact that most people cannot exact and understand personal responsibility, or reject consumerism/mammonism. And even then it's very utopian because even in very homogeneous early america your ideas were taken over by -> masonic republican ideas(a shitty bootleg rome emulation) into -> private jewish british banks -> eventually they were taken over by jews(currently).

That happened because you never had a solid racial and ideological understanding. You cannot enforce any those ideas with a minimal government. You cannot make those ideas last. Which is the irony. And is why your ideas will not work. And that needs to be fixed. 

There must be a legal framework to enforce these ideas and you are right to at least touch on it. Let me expand on it by saying that there must be a permanent racial and ideological police that touches on these fundamentals and enforces them to varying degrees in society as required with the eventual goal of stability and minimal interference into private lives of white people. 

History shows very clearly that libertarian ideas of minimal government while some may be noble cannot resist outside influence or subversion, change, which also means your state would essentially be ideologically obsolete and a waste of everybody's time and lives, it would be doing White people a disservice as a whole not supporting them with the full guidance and wisdom of the state.

You kind of nailed it why I dislike libertarian ideas. It's not a real nation status, or belief other than being an, interim, temporary or provisional government. Which is better than today, but libertarians lack fundamental understanding of human(white) society, similar to marxists and communists, which dooms their ideologies for various reasons.
 
You also in my opinion completely misunderstand fascism or national socialism in the parts where you want to preserve racial purity in destroying the mutts instead of realizing it's more efficient and humane to just deport them, and if they want to remain sterilize them and making it illegal for them to breed. This cannot be a part of a public political program though because they would rebel, but it needs to happen.

You seem to also think fascism or national socialism is state interference in every aspect of life when in reality that is a libertarian trope. One example is that our beliefs are more about first removing the clearly acidic, corrupt, subversive, and rot causing elements of society, the bankers, the epsteins and traitors of the world. by various means starting with the worst first into eventually minimal state level interference into the private sphere of White people when things are stabilized. Most white people are kind and good natured, loyal people and perform best with a unity in vision and guiding hand and purpose. They will be loyal to the state as long as they can see the state is loyal to them.

Go on and create a new ideology, i very much support that. But you have to understand what works and what doesn't.
>>13511
That is not even close to a controversial stance. You're laying down a political programme without naming it so this requires some new thread about the ideal governmental form.
>>13502
Israel will rely on no one in the near future, they can lose the west but there are more countries that have good relations with israel such as china, russia, post-mullahs iran, india, argentine, taiwan, south korea, japan, and some african countries like uganda, kenya and morocco. They are trying to exploit the remaining time of trump presidency to do whatever it gets to eliminate Israel’s rivals in the region which includes iran and take over what remains of Palestinian territories.
Our main problem in the next few years after trump and his boomer audience dies off is going to be dealing with the anti-white mobs of leftists and nons, their anti-zionist tendencies means nothing when they pursue white genocide.
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We need more National Socialist rappers.

I don't buy the argument that rap as an art form is inherently degenerate. "Rapping" as in battle poetry has existed in many cultures including our own, called "flyting." I don't see how polyrhythms are inherently Negroid, either. I'm Irish and there are a lot of Irish rappers already. We could stand to have one that's right-wing.

The beats are the easy part. All you need for boom bap is kick / bassline, snare, and some sort of sample to tie it all together. Typically some jazz piano or sax riff, but it can really be anything. Rappers in the 80s loved sampling heavy metal. Who's to say you couldn't sample Skewdriver or Johnny Rebel kek.

I know the anti-intellectuals who post here will hate this but I don't care. Mr. Bond is doing ten years for making wignat parody rap. Imagine the cultural impact an actually decent, unironic NatSoc rapper could have.

I already spent the years listening to every rapper I could get my hands on. I was a black nationalism-obsessed leftist at the time. I may as well use my extensive knowledge of the genre for good.
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I see nothing wrong with the idea of America collapse by the hands of invasive shitskins. The US is the biggest golem the jews would ever get in their history, it’s the source of every pain and degeneracy every white nation is going through. We can’t have our own nationalist regimes in our homelands is because the Americans are protecting these police states to prevent us from reaching to the throne, and even if we did the Americans would do whatever means to overthrow it. If their collapse by replacing them with feral brownoids means their grip on Europe would get softer than I'm okay with this.
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>>13831
Any change is good.
>>13511
It's always the same issue that once we have brought about the sort of perfect conditions to work on our ideal society, why even bother with relics salvaged from the ancient system?

If any voting there needs to be, let it be a local scale, small town tops, and then make it mandatory. But wouldn't that stand against your idea of letting people do what they want? Women excluded, let men have power. Right, then remove the mandatory part and if people cannot be bothered to vote when given the power to do so on things over which they can have a direct and daily influence, then they shall be held responsible.

You will nevertheless still find yourself be exposed to the power of those who have a greater influence. What will be the range of that influence? What are the tools you envision to limit it, according to what level of technology?

The monarchists' veto is a nice touch, as a recourse for the people. Regardless of the degree of freedom of speech you consider, the monarchists should suffer no limit at all.

Slavery of women is stupid in that we don't need to be blatant about it to, in effect, create favorable conditions where they won't feel shackled. Having women manage some business affairs isn't a bad thing either when they are capable of doing it, but they should stay away from politics by design.

I believe it's expedient and good to consider that the parents have a strong sense of possession over the children, as long as this comes with full responsibility.

Whatever you made as a claim about genes is hard to take seriously.

Morality was projected onto the gods by humans. They are a human creation. They represent what is good for humans, for the people.

Basing the goodness of society on the principle of pleasure should be constrained to what kind of pleasures are acceptable. The right to happiness is perhaps better voiced here. The true root of good and evil is not solely limited to personal experience but to what is also good for the survival of a people as a living group.

As for your extermination criteria, you would be killing people who have been good on our side. But what we can do is insist on having the typically Nordic nations focus on producing more children than the other population centers and then sending them the surplus, and repeating this over time.
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Gay people have something to contribute to white nationalism.

I myself am bi and generally refrain from dating women because they're entitled and insufferable. That being said, I still feel an obligation to contribute to the future of my race even if I'm probably not going to have children.

Since I don't have a family, I have a lot of spare time that I plan devoting to writing against the transgender cult and revisiting the history of Reconstruction from a pro-white perspective. I realize that a lot of people in the white nationalist scene would rather me just kill myself or something, but I don't care.
>>14086
Ryan Faulk? Is that you?
>>14086
Short answer: No.

Long answer: https://web.archive.org/web/20170224025942/http://ropeculture.org/2016/03/01/the-fag-agenda/
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>>14092
I do believe that homosexuality is a sin, regardless of the Christian context. To me, sin is just anything the gods don't like, and I can't see them liking non-reproductive sexuality. That being said, I'm not going to discount some people being born with an innately defective sexuality. In that case, they aren't going to make good fathers anyway, and it would probably be better for them not to reproduce. I don't see why that has to mean they can't contribute to white nationalism, though. Look at GRIDS Johnson over at Counter-Currents.

PDF unrelated. Just a good recommendation from AmRen. Some anatomy professor wrote a book on race for the Alabama govt back in the 60s
>>14092
I'm not going to read your slur-filled screwed btw. There are easy to make intellectual arguments against homosexuality but I've never heard one for subjecting people's private behavior to totalitarian state control. If you don't want to work with organizations that accept faggots as members then fine. It isn't as if seejtards are the cutting edge of white nationalism anyway. More like an anchor around its neck
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>>14086
Is this bait? Every homosexual "White nationalist" I've seen is a degenerate hypocrite. Most of them aren't actually White nationalist at all. They care more about their fake sexual identity than being White and are into debauchery shit. Many of them also ruin movements because of their degeneracy. Like that one tranny who not only shot his family, but had a black dildo. Gays are only into White nationalism for their preservation.
>>14094
>but I've never heard one for subjecting people's private behavior to totalitarian state control.
Did you forget what board you're on?
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>>14119
>Like that one tranny who not only shot his family, but had a black dildo.
*Like that one tranny groyper who not only shot his family, but apparently haf a black dildo.*
>>14119
>Gays are only into White nationalism for their preservation.
In practice, homosexuality is just as prevalent in nonwhite societies, and if anything Muslims are gayer than Westerners. Their religion is just a vain attempt to cope with their culture, which can best be summarized by the Turkish saying "women are for babies and boys are for fucking"

If all I cared about was my own-self preservation then I would simply side with the liberal world order which apparently sees forcing homosexual acceptance as an absolute necessity
>Do you forget what board you're on?
And here I thought fascism meant doing bad to the bad, good to the good, and leaving the masses more or less alone. I totally agree that pride parades and other attempts to normalize homosexuality in the public sphere should be banned. But micromanaging is for women, and in any case antithetical to the individualistic spirit of Aryans
>>14094
>I'm not going to read
Then get the fuck out of this board.
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>>14124
>In practice, homosexuality is just as prevalent in nonwhite societies, and if anything Muslims are gayer than Westerners. Their religion is just a vain attempt to cope with their culture, which can best be summarized by the Turkish saying "women are for babies and boys are for fucking"
Wow, thanks for proving my point on why we shouldn't accept homos.
>If all I cared about was my own-self preservation then I would simply side with the liberal world order 
Thing here is, the "liberal world order" is dying and will soon collapse. When it does, then fags will have no one to protect them other than themselves, which we all know isn't going to happen because fags hate each other than they hate le homophobes. Besides there are other reasons why you would join White nationalist movements which can range from wanting protection from niggers or dissatisfaction with the LGBTP+tards focusing more on the T and making them the center of their movement. There is zero reasons for White nationalists to accept queers who not only go against nature a core instrument and doctrine of White nationalism, but also do not want to breed to secure the White race's future. Not to mention that queer shit was birthed and promoted by the Jews. If anything, you solely want us to protect you and nothing more.
>And here I thought fascism meant doing bad to the bad, good to the good
Yes, which is why Mussolini had black shirts beat homosexuals in the streets and a moral correction police, because homosexuality is bad. Which FYI, the word "bad" just means effeminate.
>But micromanaging is for women, and in any case antithetical to the individualistic spirit of Aryans
This is the dumbest shit I ever read. Read the Doctrine of Fascism. Every civilization has micromanaged morals and conduct, which is a core tenet of fascism. If you mean going to house to house to make sure that no one is gay like a Christcuck then sure, but that doesn't mean we aren't going to prosecute or correct (You) when we found out that you're into men or being effeminate in general. I hate when niggers like call anything remotely agreeable to their narrow worldview, "Aryan".
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>>14124
>In practice, homosexuality is just as prevalent in nonwhite societies
>Their religion is just a vain attempt to cope with their culture
Agree, but you're just admitting that homosexuality is a low IQ practice and is overall degenerate. "Homosexuality is so low IQ and dysgenic that the most dysgenic groups you can think of are practicing it", lol.
>Turkish saying "women are for babies and boys are for fucking
Yes we know Turks are gay.
>If all I cared about was my own-self preservation then I would simply side with the liberal world order which apparently sees forcing homosexual acceptance as an absolute necessity
If you cared about the White race you wouldn't be a bisexual, simple as is. Women being insufferable is not excuse for being a fag. This mindset is on par with the cope that fags say when they try to use the excuse their fake sexuality when they claim that they find vaginas "disgusting". Straight men also think vaginas are gross, but that doesn't stop our desire to have sex and then birth children. Besides, it's retarded to say vaginas are gross, but then think that shit filled assholes with possible aids or any sexual transmitted disease is "sexually attractive", but I digress.
>And here I thought fascism meant doing bad to the bad, good to the good,
You think being bisexual is good? The group who are just perverted heterosexuals? The kind who transmit disease from men to women? The typical fags who are indoctrinated by Jews?
>But micromanaging is for women
It really isn't. But I don't think you know what this word entails within a society when enforcing morals and conduct. Concern for the well-being of every household or individual Aryan is very Aryan.
>and in any case antithetical to the individualistic spirit of Aryans
Again, not it is not. The individualistic Aryan is a collective man who values virtue and acts by the morals needed to keep society in order. Morals aren't mean to be pearl-clutching sure, but for what reason should we, or in what fascist society would accept a fag such as yourself having sex with men or doing anything remotely queer in society or your household at all? The bare minimum is that you stay in the closet, celibate until you decide to be a virtuous Aryan, no more than that.
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>>14124
>in any case antithetical to the individualistic spirit of Aryans
Aryans is a big term. However, individualist extremism is bad.
If you have a society and you just let everyone do anything they like, even things that are harmful to society (eg immoral things), then that society will collapse. That's just objectively true.

Strength comes from unity. You know as well as I do that White people would not be getting humiliated in front of the world if we behaved like a group with common interests. It is this alienating individualism that has weakened us.
>>14132
Write better prose instead of just saying nigger over and over you stupid bonehead.

Some people probably shouldn't reproduce. Is it wrong for them to be gay? I don't buy this dysgenic numbers game you wignats want to play against the nons. We can't possibly win that way.

And it's not even that I don't want a family. It's just that I don't see any good women around, and I'm frankly not willing to work 60hrs a week to pay all the taxes for niggers and Boomers.
>Not to mention that queer shit was birthed and promoted by the Jews.
Before Hashem delivered Prophet Moses the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai, no one had ever sucked a pecker before. Seems very reasonable. The culture of open gay acceptance is a different story, but I'm opposed to that, so yeah.
>>14140
Proof that fascism is an Asiatic philosophy then. It was created by nigger-admixed Italians and Spaniards though so no surprise there
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>>14144
>If you cared about the White race you wouldn't be a bisexual, simple as is. Women being insufferable is not excuse for being a fag.
And yet I care about saving the white race and am bisexual. Considering you started with a no true scotsman I'm just going to ignore the rest of your retarded post. Not everyone has to reproduce man I don't get this cult mentality. It's like your politics are all you have going on for you in your life or something, and I mean that for everyone here
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>>14157
>Before Hashem delivered Prophet Moses the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai, no one had ever sucked a pecker before. Seems very reasonable
You're being disingenuous which is further proof that we shouldn't accept gays. I did not say Jews are inherently gay. I meant that there are Jews who created queer theory, which itself is heavily inspired by the Kabbalah. They actively promote homosexuality and many Jews are proudly gay themselves. If you don't acknowledge this fact, then you shouldn't be here.
>Proof that fascism is an Asiatic philosophy then
> It was created by nigger-admixed Italians and Spaniards though so no surprise there
I don't know what you're referring to, but I'm going to make an educated guess that it on what I said regarding morals and conduct which further illustrates that you're retarded and is another example of why we shouldn't accept fags. Apparently, Hitler and all the Romans are "Asiatic", because they weren't weed smoking lolspergs.
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>>14158
>And yet I care about saving the white race and am bisexual.
If you cared about the White race, then what should be a concern to you is saving White birthrates instead of your pervert identity. You're trying to make being a fag and nationalist work and it doesn't when you care more about your fake sexuality than being White. No one asked about your pervert identity, you brought it up as if it were important. We don't need Israeli-style nationalism.
> Considering you started with a no true scotsman
It's not a No True Scotsman when White nationalism has always been about straight White people and their families, retard. That's the historical reality.
>I'm just going to ignore the rest of your retarded post
Lol typical weak faggot.
>Not everyone has to reproduce man
We can't secure shit if we don't reproduce. Jews get this, you don't. White nationalism without natalism is meaningless, it is just aesthetic posting. Hitler and Mussolini treated childlessness as a problem worth taxing and shaming. They pushed families because they wanted their people to survive. Celibacy or not having kids is whatever if you're genuinely dysgenic from illness or bad genes. But don't sit here excusing your zero contribution because you'd rather chase dick. That's selfish, pointless, and straight-up dysgenic behavior that does nothing for you or the race. Libertarianism/liberalism is not Aryan, dork.
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>>14160
Explain to me how queer theory is inspired by the Kabbalah. You're talking out of your ass
>>14162
This is the unpopular opinions thread. Maybe you should go change your tampon before you develop toxic shock.

I care about white birthrates, but I also care about eugenics. I don't understand the obsession with everyone having kids when they're already dysgenic perverts and could probably contribute better to the race in some other way.
>Celibacy or not having kids is whatever if you're genuinely dysgenic from illness or bad genes. But don't sit here excusing your zero contribution because you'd rather chase dick. That's selfish, pointless, and straight-up dysgenic behavior that does nothing for you or the race. Libertarianism/liberalism is not Aryan, dork.
How could a non-reproductive lifestyle possibly be dysgenic lmao
You guys don't even know the meanings of the words you use. You're a bunch of fucking loser retards holy shit
>>14164
<Explain to me how queer theory is inspired by the Kabbalah. You're talking out of your ass
I'm going to answer for that anon, because this level of ignorance is unacceptable for this board. Do you honestly not know about the eight genders in the Talmud / Zohar? Do we even need to mention Magnus Hirschfield's work with creating / co-founding the first international pro-homosexual / proto-globohomo organizations in history? Do you really want us to cover his thoroughly jewish Institute of Sexology doing the first real transsexual tranny surgeries known in history?

You have some wild exceptions such as Emperor Hadrian, but you are immediately falling into 'not all X are like that' by ignoring the general trend that they are among the least comparable with actual ethno-movements, as tribes historically evolved with being hostile to male homosexual behavior for good reason because tribes that grew to instinctually dislike it obviously had far more success than tribes that did not similar to feminism.
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>>14157
>Some people probably shouldn't reproduce. Is it wrong for them to be gay?
Yes.
You do know that FAGS reproduce by touching kids right?
What sane society wants to constantly put their kids at risk of being molested?

>i'm bisexual
You are a materialist sensualist who was probably either molested, or indoctrinated due to being weak willed from having a single mother.
>>14165
There are supposedly six genders in the Talmud, but that's different from the Kabbalah, which has a separate corpus of texts, many of which have been translated by Gershem Scholem. This sort of half-baked shit just makes us look bad
>>14162
I'm not a fan of faggots but
>If you cared about the White race, then what should be a concern to you is saving White birthrates
idk man. I don't think that faggots should raise children. Or be around children at all. 
I'm not saying that anon is going to rape children, but imagine if he did raise a son. His son would have a faggot as a role model. That's bad.
Furthermore, faggotry might be partially genetic rather than purely environmental. So he'd be spreading around bad genetics.
>>14168
<There are supposedly six genders in the Talmud, but that's different from the Kabbalah, which has a separate corpus of texts, many of which have been translated by Gershem Scholem.
The Talmud and Kabbalah (occultism for jews) are very intertwined at this point. They are essentially inseparable. All of the secular jewish socio-cultural architecture is directly derived from the religious jewish architecture, which indeed the Kabbalah / Zohar and other texts beyond the Talmud stands at the apex of. These built their foundations in the legal law of the Talmud, which itself already contains plenty of jewish mysticism / occultism within it. Don't think I didn't notice you completely side-stepping the directly provable evidence of jewry at the heart of homosexuality / globohomo in the modern day either.

I even provided you a clear secular materialistic argument for why societies largely shun male homosexuality. There's a certain tiny threshold level, like many other taboos, past which it becomes widely destructive to a tribe's survival if it goes unchecked. Female homosexuality, for example, largely did not threaten a tribe's survival due to harem situations or a wife sleeping with another woman outside her primary male partner(s) did not affect her reproduction. Lesbian relationships also have the lowest STI rates even compared to heterosexual couples, so this was likely another major factor that it was not shunned nearly to such a degree nor produces evolved disgusted reactions in the majority of male brains.
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>>14169
Exactly my thinking
>I even provided you a clear secular materialistic argument for why societies largely shun male homosexuality
And I already said that I agree homosexuality shouldn't be normalized or encouraged as a lifestyle equal to heterosexuality, so that's totally irrelevant. Going back to how it was 100 years ago is not the same as throwing gays off buildings
>>14169
>idk man. I don't think that faggots should raise children. Or be around children at all. 
I noticed that this board has a reading problem. Where did anon say that fags should adopt and raise children? I'm pretty sure it is common sense that he's telling the other anon to drop his degeneracy and willingly sacrifice his petty desires for a future for us.
>>14171
>posts gay shit
You're not helping your case here. Just fuck off elsewhere faggot.
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>faggotry might be genetic
This is bordering on, "you're born gay" bullshit. Being mental ill can be genetic, but what are the chances that the person simply suffers from trauma and can recover from it? If anon isn't dysgenic then he should drop his homosexuality. There is literally no excuse for being a fag.
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>>14171
I think this one is called "bara".
>>14171
> Going back to how it was 100 years ago is not the same as throwing gays off buildings
Going back to 100 years ago is when you were largely shunned by all of society, and not too long before that was burning you along with witches. We're currently shunning your behavior and activities, along with calmly explaining why it's destructive using empirical reasoning exactly like the times you are desiring instead of outright banning or killing.
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<give me reasons why homosexuality is bad in general, let alone for an ethno-movement
I'm giving to give you an oldie but goodie written long ago.
>>14164
>This is the unpopular opinions thread. Maybe you should go change your tampon before you develop toxic shock.
This is the unpopular opinions thread, retard. If you post your faggy little opinions, people are gonna shit on them. It's not a hugbox. Grow a pair or fuck off.
>I don't understand the obsession with everyone having kids when they're already dysgenic perverts
I literally already addressed dysgenic cases in the last post, if you could read. White birthrates are below replacement while we're getting flooded with non-Whites. So yeah, we're gonna push breeding from every capable person. Simple as.
>How could a non-reproductive lifestyle possibly be dysgenic lmao
Learn to read, faggot. I never said every single non-reproductive person is dysgenic. But actively choosing a lifestyle built around chasing dick instead of building a family is selfish as fuck and contributes nothing to the race when we need numbers.
>You guys don't even know the meanings of the words you use. You're a bunch of fucking loser retards holy shit 
Lmao you sound seething as fuck for an illiterate faggot who can't even spell. Stay mad.

>>14169
You're missing the point hard. A faggot who actually steps up, has multiple White kids and raises them right is redeeming himself through reproduction. This is assuming he is not dysgenic. Some fags can be redeemed even if most can't.
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>>14168
The so-called White nationalist who doesn't believe or see the obvious connection between Judaism and queer theory. Is this a fed or a mossad agent doing his hardest to get us to accept homos?
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>>14178
Imagine not knowing that Harvey Milk, Magnus Hirschfield, and all the leading (especially 2nd wave+ but plenty of 1st wave) feminists were all jewish, that Critical Theory and intersectional identity politics is derived from the Frankfurt School (almost all jewish) which then migrated to Colombia University to begat the current era of woke LGBTQ+ era. Judith Butler and Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick, the founders of queer theory, are jewish. I've only scratched the surface. Those two fag anons probably came here thinking a bunch of chuds didn't know more about their identity, lifestyle, and history than they did.
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>>14179
Imagine calling a phenomenon that's existed in every society for all of recorded history a Jewish psyop lmao

Your pic isn't even related to homosexuality. You have no arguments just a few anecdotes you aren't even trying
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>>14180
Fuck off back to your trooncord.
>>14180
Join your 41% xisters. The rope is calling. All of your arguments were dismantled here in an environment which you can't ban someone saying things you don't like to see or hear. Everything here is easily verified, even according to sources you control.
Sex dolls make decent lifting weights.
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>>14179
kek.
Fags and kikes are similar in their argumentation.
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a reference to this thread being a  misapprehension; QueerFront- a play on Querfront and StormFront, the populist movement in Weimar politics that attempted to unite the Left and Right or Nationalists and Socialists.
eh..
Must just be my sense of humor.
>>14172
>Where did anon say that fags should adopt and raise children?
>>If you cared about the White race, then what should be a concern to you is saving White birthrates
>>We can't secure shit if we don't reproduce
>>White birthrates are below replacement while we're getting flooded with non-Whites. So yeah, we're gonna push breeding from every capable person. 
>>Straight men also think vaginas are gross, but that doesn't stop our desire to have sex and then birth children.
I don't believe that I'm the one with the reading problem, anon

>>14171
> I already said that I agree homosexuality shouldn't be normalized
Then why are you posting cringe gay memes? 
You know what you're doing? You're like those women who come here and say, "I'm a woman that thinks that White genocide is bad, teehee."
Everyone points out that she's only here for attention.
You post these gay ass memes and flaunt that you're gay and wonder, "Why am I getting mogged on?"

Out of curiosity, how much soy do you consume normally? Remember, most candy bars/protein bars contain soy
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>>14173
>This is bordering on, "you're born gay" bullshit
And your post is bordering on "low IQ is purely due to environmental factors"
Studies clearly show that a large part of your identity is genetic. It is completely reasonable to postulate that faggotry may be genetic too.
This is a good thing because that means that killing all gays means the gradual elimination of the genes.
But also, let's say that you're right and gayness is "purely environmental factors" just like what shitlibs say about black criminality and female short sightedness. 
I presume that it's getting touched as a kid. Well guess what, faggots are like 10 times more likely to touch children than normal adults. So making faggots have children may be just producing more faggots and ruining the lives of more children.


>>14177
>A faggot who actually steps up, has multiple White kids and raises them right is redeeming himself through reproduction.
Maybe. But you're missing my point hard. Let's say that anon is not a kid toucher. He will still probably give off faggoty vibes around his son, who will grow up learning how to be a man from his father.
If faggotry is spread via environmental factors, that's probably one of them.
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>>14189
Anon you're being retarded. No where did anon imply that homosexuals should raise kids. 
>>14190
>And your post is bordering on "low IQ is purely due to environmental factors"
No it is not. Fucking read, jesus christ. 
>Studies clearly show that a large part of your identity is genetic. 
What studies say this? Being gay is not genetic at all. It is a mental illness if anything.
>Well guess what, faggots are like 10 times more likely to touch children than normal adults. 
Again, learn 2 fucking read. If you can give up your homosexuality for a normal and healthy lifestyle then in what way or form are you still a faggot? You're clutching pearls, or purity spiraling. And I never said faggots can raise kids, I and that anon are arguing that faggots can redeem themselves.
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>>14194
>>A faggot who actually steps up, has multiple White kids and raises them right is redeeming himself through reproduction
You literally said that faggots should have children. 

You said that faggotry is due to environmental factors, just like shitlibs say criminality is due to environmental factors.
These are the same claims.
Why are you so piping angry? White men may discuss things calmly. 

>Being gay is not genetic at al
> It is a mental illness
Mental illnesses are usually genetic, lol.

You think that faggots can redeem themselves by having children. But faggots don't just suddenly become normal people on a whim. This is like saying that niggers should just stop committing crimes. It's in their DNA. They cannot help themselves.

You hold a lot of magic soil beliefs and get upset too easily. Re-examine your beliefs.
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I think being gay is mostly environmental. Pretty sad to see dudes who could have married women totally give up because the market is just that shit. I swear a quarter of the couples I see now are interracial. I'm just not gonna do it until they take women's rights away. They've turned marriage into a total scam for men. No amount of social shaming or appeal to emotion is going to change my mind because I'm autistic. I'm really starting to not care about white nationalism at all because of how toxic and stupid all of you people are
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>>14213
It seems more and more people are coming to this conclusion. 
The purity spiraling is killing us. We're unable to have even mild disagreements without chimping out. We've lost sight of the goal of preserving our race and fallen into attacking each other over ridiculous disagreements.

Please do not give up. Firstly, our cause, the real cause of defending our race against genocide, is the most righteous cause in human history. 
What the jews are doing to us is monstrous. It is evil. And then to tell us that we are immoral for resisting being replaced in our own nations is psychotic to a degree never before seen in history.
It is true that we've fractured into many back biting little sects. But that doesn't change the fact that we are collectively right about White genocide.

Secondly, if we lose we will all be punished whether you gave up or not. Once we are a minority, we will not be treated with the same kindness we have foolishly shown our racial enemies. Nor will we be treated with the disdain and ridicule that we are being treated with now. We will be herded into camps and murdered. The enemy openly says that they want to kill us even now when they are in the minority. Once non-Whites are the majority, they will treat us as they treat all minorities in their countries: We will all end up dying in pure misery, starvation, bleeding out in a ditch, or raped to death by glass bottles. This is how they treat the Whites who surrendered in South Africa. 

Thirdly, if you give up, you are guaranteed to fail. If we all just let feminism, liberalism, and mass  immigration go on without resistance, it will succeed. But if we fight back, we will have a chance of victory.

I suggest you join me in trying to correct the pointless, self destructive infighting that is destroying us. Or take a break and come back with fresh eyes. But do not abandon the struggle that you know is righteous.
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>>14219
I'm not actually giving up lol. I'm exasperated with these online spaces though. We need to do a better job separating the psychos who see white nationalism as an excuse to hurt Jews, homos or whatever and the people who actually care about advancing white interests. Until there's some fucking quality control there's no point doing anything that isn't irl, where you can look people in the eye and get a gut feeling for them. And even then most of it sucks. Lucas Gage is so right
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>>14221
>We need to do a better job separating the psychos who see white nationalism as an excuse to hurt Jews, homos or whatever and the people who actually care about advancing white interests.
Harm against jews is the same congruent statement as helping Whites. Likewise, to assist jews is the same thing as harming Whites. The overlap in population attitudes in these spaces and elsewhere is no accident. This applies for other non-Whites as well, with a few minor exceptions compared to jews.
>>14221
You're right about needing more IRL action/meeting. I encourage you to do so yourself. In real life, the easily flustered people are pretty rare and they can be physically kept out of organizations.
I must re-iterate that White nationalism isn't about hurting jews for the sake of hurting jews. But it must "hurt" the people who are maliciously harming us, which means hurting jews. Even regular jews who don't own Facebook (and jews are disproportionately overrepresented among the super rich) are still jews who will hurt us in their small way if it means advancing their own racial interests.

Another way to look at it is as if you are a soldier in a nation at war with another nation. Each individual enemy soldier may not be very threatening, but they all support the greater structure that is jewish supremacy. A jew can never be an ally or even neutral since it is directly beneficial to him to hurt us.

Always lie to jews, misdirect them, don't hold the door for them, stonewall them, obstruct them, and reveal their secrets to all around them. These small acts will slow down their greater destructive mission.
If you really believe this then go shoot up your local synagogue and go to jail so that we don't have to deal with your retarded ass anymore
>A jew can never be an ally or even neutral since it is directly beneficial to him to hurt us.
This is delusional thinking and you deserve to lose
>>14224
<The exceptions disprove the rule!
They don't. If you were to press a button, and all jews, good and bad, disappeared immediately—80% of our issues would disappear overnight, allowing the means and energy to eliminate the remaining 20%. I don't care about your Brother Nathanaels or Bobby Fischers. I care about the other 9999/10000 that are intentionally evil or passively aid the evil ones out of racial soliditary.
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>>14224
I'll put this into very simple form which I know even you can grasp: there is a wounded lion and cubs, along with two hyenas in a territory. One hyena is red-patterned, while the other is blue-patterned. Both hyenas despise each other but know to work together to slay the lion and devour the cubs.

To wound the lion further is obviously aiding the hyenas. To patch up the lion so it may eat the hyenas is to harm the hyenas. To wound the hyenas so the lion can eat them likewise is to help the lion. 

The red-patterned hyena represents the leftwing marxist anti-zionist jews importing endless refugees into European territories; the blue-patterned hyena is the right-wing zionist jews imposing noahide law and creating / exporting refugees into European lands through endless war. You can probably guess who the lion and cubs are.

It's high-time everyone here started seeing this brutal zero-sum game for what it is, as it is the exact one played by your enemies. They live and breathe it. A hair or nail of a jew is worth more than the life of a goy, in the words of a particular rabbi. You need to start seeing a single drop of European blood as worth more than oceans of yiddish blood, and build all ethics and mindset from there in return.
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>>14226
If for some reason that parable still is not clicking for any readers and skeptics here, I will finally put this in a mathematical logic form. It should remove any fog of doubt. I will use different races to demonstrate the difference.

If we were to ask: are Africans bad (as an absolute binary statement in reference to Europeans), you might protest and say there are any number of good Africans. Seemingly, there is no clear answer here. However, if we flip the question and ask: are Africans good (for Europeans)? The answer becomes abundantly clear, far outweighing the good individuals and contributions, when citing their damage to societies, black on White rapes and murders in Africa, in Haiti, in North America, and their enormous burden as welfare receipients / healthcare costs, etc.: they are not good. They are a net bad, in other words, which makes the final declaration of Africans being bad (for Europeans) the correct answer despite exceptions.

Let's try this with Japanese (and perhaps some other few racial groups). Are Japanese good for Europeans? Well, there are certainly some bad Japanese we can all agree. The answer again seems unclear. Are Japanese bad for Europeans? It becomes very clear quickly when assessing low crime rates, contributions, technologies, and so forth that they are definitely not a net bad for Europeans. It follows then that they are good as a binary choice in the end. 

Apply this to jews, and you quickly find them in the same camp as africans. You will not find them in the second camp along side of Japanese.
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>>14225
This just simply isn't true. Even if you got rid of the Jews there are plenty of genetically degraded insane white liberals in positions of power. The left is correct to characterize you people as low-IQ haters scapegoating Jews for your inadequacies.
>>14226
In your analogy, Jews are more like ligers. Some of them are white enough to have sympathy for Western civilization, and I'm talking the Greeks and stuff, not just Christianity. I would never trust them, but they're at least neutral
>>14227
Dunning Krueger over here thinks he's a fucking historical genius lmao
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>>14224
Bruh, I am one of the least likely people to suggest shooting up a synagogue. 

Jews are foreigners. This isn't me being anti-semitic, this is what all jews believe. Everything about their self image is about being the Other in society. Their entire mythology is about being persecuted by goyim.
This is why jews want immigration. An all White society may unite against them. But if you diffuse it with ideological conflict (communism vs capitalism) or racial conflict (open borders) then jews benefit immensely and can get extraordinarily rich.
Do you dispute any of this?
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>>14231
The Secretary of State for the Confederacy and supposed founder of the KKK was an ethnic Jew named Judah P. Benjamin. So yes, as an American and specifically as a Southerner, I simply disagree with this argument that no Jew can ever be neutral, let alone an ally. It's idealistic i.e. anti-reality thinking. If you want to say they're enemies in general then sure, no one is debating that. I don't think we really need their help to win, but I don't hate all of them either

I don't think every Jew has a strong enough Jewish identity to be a fifth column in ever circumstance. Do I support deporting them all to Israel? Sure. But the country is only 50% white rn. If a few of them want to help us then great
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>>14232
>as an American and specifically as a Southerner, I simply disagree with this argument that no Jew can ever be neutral, let alone an ally.
What a very non-Jewish thing to say. Too bad we have thousands of years of recorded history showing us time and time again that kikes are evil backstabbing morally depraved vermin that foment poverty, vice, and subversion, and always destroy their host nation, enjoying feasts while White people starve. We've seen it in Rome, we've seen it in Spain, we've seen it in Germany and we see it in America today. It's a pattern that has been repeating for thousands of years. Not even once have kikes been anything other than a detriment. Anyone who sees the historical record and still says they can be neutral or allies with a straight face is a fucking moron or a kike himself. And I'm pretty sure which one you are.

>I don't think we really need their help to win, but I don't hate all of them either
We need you all to be dead, every single one, before we can ever have a single hope of living in a single world.

>I don't think every Jew has a strong enough Jewish identity to be a fifth column in ever circumstance.
Don't care. You are always the proverbial viper, no sane farmer would pick you up.

>Do I support deporting them all to Israel? Sure. Because simply kicking you out worked so well the last 194 times.

>But the country is only 50% white rn. If a few of them want to help us then great
I bet you'd like that, Shlomo.
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>>14233
Whatever. I'd rather deport Nazis than Jews. At least some Jews have contributed to America
The world will not be able to begin healing until the last Jew's corpse is fed to pigs, the last Torah is cast into a bonfire, the last temple razed to the ground, the last idol melted down, and the last Semitic allele purged from the gene pool.
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>>14234
>I'd rather deport Nazis than Jews
Isn't this the same guy who claimed to be pro-White but is defending faggotry?
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>>14239
What do you wanna bet it's a hat trick and he's also the faggot shilling Patriot Front?
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>>14234
Fuck you Kikesucker...
>improved 'Murica
Sure Shlomo...
>ran the slave trade
>destroyed the money supply and introduced usury
>Poisoned, yes literally POISONED hundreds of thousands of Americans by alcohol adulterants-The REAL reason that prohibition was enacted, and they were the MAIN contributors to the Mob and Black market in this respect
>destruction of constitutional freedoms, freedom of Association, etc., etc., ad nauseum.
>Forced integration
>Feminism
>the entire co-opting and corruption of the apparatus of governance here and ALL other Western nations
>the importation and deliberate displacement of the indigenous Whites in Europe
The list goes on and on...
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>>14244
>If you don't blame the Jews for literally everything you're a kikesucker
((( Americans ))) are subhuman ffs
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>>14241
I am the anon who brought up Patriot Front.
I see that you cannot refute what I wrote so, like a jew, you only use petty insults and try to spread false rumors to get your way.
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>>14229
>They don't. If you were to press a button, and all jews, good and bad, disappeared immediately—80% of our issues would disappear overnight, allowing the means and energy to eliminate the remaining 20%. I don't care about your Brother Nathanaels or Bobby Fischers. I care about the other 9999/10000 that are intentionally evil or passively aid the evil ones out of racial soliditary.
Already answered that about the other problems.
>Dunning Krueger over here thinks he's a fucking historical genius lmao
A corollorary of Dunning-Krueger is that a given sample of the population both knows they are above the mean in terms of competency (or intelligence or knowledge depending on the context) and are aware of their expertise compared to the lower percentiles. You are a reddit nigger, so this corollary and simple truth never occurred to you.
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>>14249
Illustrating the finer points of Dunning-Kruger again, since it's always the surest sign of a quarter-wit failed fag academic and reddit user to be the first to try referencing it when insulting someone, Alysa Liu (I know you academic niggers love hapas) is an example of this corollary. She is one of the best at her chosen area of expertise compared to the below average, the average, and even the above-average. In addition to this, she's aware of it, proudly mentioning out-mogging even her excellent peers. You are far too stupid to even have realized obscure uncensored imageboards such as this draw in above average (competent and knowledgable) samples of the population to begin with, let alone ones that are aware they are above average or even the best. In terms of Dunning-Kruger, you needed anons such myself to point out this corollary in the first place, since it's never mentioned on the wikipage or in the primary sources to begin with, since only someone with a competency at statistics, mathematics, and logic would infer and derive it in the first place (which you do not possess; you still don't even grasp it after it was pointed out and demonstrated to you).
>>14248
Nice projection. You still haven't answered my question, by the way.
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>>14247
Point to ANY social ILL in the West, and I'll show you the jew who's at the root of it...
DO IT FAGGOT!
>>14251
I did. I'm obviously not the same anon I've been patiently explaining jewish power to.
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Here's some troubling document. It's clearly a terribly translated piece taken from an old interview with Wilhelm Landig. He threw all sorts of accusations at Hitler about the funding. He says Hitler had the support of finance, perhaps even Warburg through the Netherlands, and also had support from Freemasonry.
There is the vain claim of Martin Bormann being a Soviet agent, debunked though.
https://karlradl14.substack.com/p/debunking-the-myth-that-martin-bormann
There's still a lingering seething from people linking themselves to the Thule Society, intellectually or otherwise, that they and their great ideals were betrayed by Hitler.
Was Gottfried Feder a homosexual?
>>14234
>>14247
Trolling used to be good lol. This one is weak af
>>14235
>the last idol melted down
Don't try too hard Chaim, you don't belong, and never will.
>>14244
Give me more about that alcohol thing please. We're always served the pre-warmed supermarket version.
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>>14270
>Don't try too hard Chaim, you don't belong, and never will.
...don't they have all those statues of Moloch or what have you?
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>>14271
I have never read about a modern statue of that kind found in any place or retreat associated to hardcore Judeo-Satanic cult. I use the word Satanic there merely because that's what it's often associated to and would seem to be be confined at most to some circles that have a tendency to mix sadism, crime and edginess. At large they seem fine merely collecting deranged paintings on one hand, and sacrificing babies on mattresses on the other.
The breaking of idols is however a well documented Christian obsession first and foremost, and a historical Hebraic pattern in a secondary position, recently rekindled through the highlighting of Judaic religious statements and Noahide principles.
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>>14272
Interesting, thanks for the exposition. Guess the joke's on me for not researching well enough.

>Satanic
It's pretty funny how Christians (over)use that word too, using a literal Jewish word for everything they don't like while swearing up and down their religion isn't Jewish in origin.
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>>14270
>Give me more about that alcohol thing please
There was a Devon Stack Blackpilled all about it,
https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/INSOMNIA-STREAM--VALENTINES-DAY-MASSACRE-EDITION:a

Also, the entire NXVIM Cult ,revolved around an heiress to the ((( Seagrams ))) fortune, ((( Claire Bronfman ))).
>pics 1&2
Here's the kikes own bragadocio about their influence in Alcohol:

>Jews and the Wine and Liquor Trade
https://web.archive.org/web/20250425224851/https://jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-and-the-wine-and-liquor-trade

The ((( bootleggers ))) in this one are the usual suspects, but you are led to believe that it's the usual White Hillbillies in the appalachians running a still that would only produce 11% of product for the locals from 100 gallons of mash.
>pic3
Yeah right...meanwhile, the kikes were shipping in Thousands of barrels of alcohol cut with methanol and denatured alcohol from well established Caribbean distilleries on plantations, and from overseas.

>Solzhenitsyn writes about the jewish monopoly on brandy distilleries and distribution in Russia and eastern Europe....in the 17th century....and the occasional famines that occurred among the serfs...whenever the brandy distillers would buy up the lions share of the season's produce, leaving too little for the poorest to eat--A comment from the episode's comment section.

The Slave heavy sugarcane plantations were almost entirely owned by jews--(if not all,) and they would have massive rum distilleries for selling to Britain's military for the navy's ships' Grog, necessary for purifying the putrid barrels of water and also for delivering the lime juice to prevent scurvy.(where we get the Bong-slur; Limeys)
Not hard to see how kikes could once again profit from WAR and political unrest. 
Just a little digging in the IA or hell, even WikiPaedos will give ample crumbs for smol digs with big results.
jews just can't help bragging about this shit, all while blaming,(LYING ABOUT) Whites for doing it.
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>>14274
Jews and Booze is another good one. I think I posted it in the book thread if you can't find a PDF via Yandex. The most damning piece of info I remember is that at one point a full third of the living Jewish population was involved on some level with the liquor trade, and that includes babies and elderly lol. Thank the Tsars for the Jewish monopoly on vodka. Then they brought those skills to the Americas in many cases.

As an alcoholic I actually have a lot of respect for Jewish skill when it comes to brewing and whatever. They make good cigarettes too (Nats). It's just a shame they ONLY devote their business acumen to unethical fields
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>>14286
>Jews and Booze
TY.
I DL'd it from Anna's Arch.
>>14211
>You literally said that faggots should have children. 
No I did not. Learn to fucking read instead of spewing psuedo-intellectual dribble, Pablo.
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So are gay people sympathetic to white nationalism just supposed to kill themselves? Assuming it's at least partially genetic. What about white people with nonwhite kids from before getting redpilled? Or with nonwhite family

I just don't think the purity spiral is ever going to work in a country like America. I'm not saying every org has to tolerate these types, but it would be foolish to make enemies when you don't have to
>>14350
>So are gay people sympathetic to white nationalism just supposed to kill themselves?
Can't kill yourself if you don't exist in the first place.

>muh purity spiral
It's called having basic standards, fudge packer.
>>14314
>>A faggot who actually steps up, has multiple White kids and raises them right is redeeming himself through reproduction
That's telling him to breed.
>>14350
Not sure but it seems that you should just become a leftist and shill for White genocide.
Sorry.
Vitamin D supplements are borderline euphoric, 10k IU hits quite noticeably on 5ng/ml blood levels.
>>14350
Fags are annoying and only contribute to society if they can work, but they won't have kids anyway most of the time unless they're closet fags.
All in all I'm not really sure how people whose highest achievement is sucking on cocks and who identify themselves as STD ridden smelly cock sleeves can contribute meaningfully to a White Aryan society.
>>14350
On 8/pol/ you would have gotten a dozen "yes" responses.
Imageboards have fallen.
>>14273
Satanic is a good word and concept, although it does help to differentiate between Satanic and satanic. In the latter, it's more for gnostic connotations (inversions of what is considered good in different contexts). If one tries to use demonic instead, it faces the same issue as Satanic. Diabolical in common use has too much emphasis on a materialistic or physical sort of evil, while Satanic or demonic correctly carries the additional connotation of otherwordly spiritual evil guiding the material and physical evil.

A nigger doing a rape-murder of a White woman would be called diabolical because he's a disgusting lower animal that needs to be cut to be pieces slowly along with his family for such raw physical and unchecked evil. A jew that imports these murder-rape animals into White countries and idolizes them through media / welfare is demonic, while any parents that forgive the nigger or kike would be Satanic. Under the judeo-pedophiliac empire we've currently living under, to say these things openly would be satanic according to the tikkun olam multi-cultural JOG system we live under.

Hope that helps with clarifying.
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>>14372
>Satanic is a good word
It's a kike word.
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>>14382
So is 'glitch' and 'golem' for that matter. Stop being dramatic. If you want to excise all things of even remotely jewish origin, go all the way. Otherwise, stop being retarded, realize words have connotations that change or serve a unique purpose in communicating effectively (the entire point of language).
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>>14389
Are you going to say gender instead of sex too, since it's the word everyone else uses? Using the enemy's language is what losers do.
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>>14390
You dumb nigger. Kike is a derivative of kikel, a literal jew word. How far do you want to take this absurdity of yours? Stop being retarded.
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>>14391
>Kike is a derivative of kikel, a literal jew word.
Good catch, we should stop using that word too.
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>>14392
>Don't use the tools and weapons of your enemies
Why limit yourself.
The Kikel meme, whether true or not points out just how much jews HATE Christian Whites.
Not that that means as much now due to ((( Evangelicalism ))) and the Scofield Reference Bible, which was heavily infuenced by KIKES.
but still, I see NO reason not to expose them at every turn.
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>>14393
Christianity was just a kike cult that Whites got psyopped into thinking is theirs, it was always jewed. Christian Whites are spiritual semites and race traitors. Thanks for reinforcing my point though.

>Don't use the tools and weapons of your enemies
I did not say that, Shlomo. What I'm saying is, don't use the enemy's language because language influences thought influences worldview.
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>>14394
Whoops, I used "kike" again. Let me amend. 

>Christianity was just a semitic cult that Whites got psyopped into thinking is theirs, it was always jewed. Christian Whites are spiritual semites and race traitors. Thanks for reinforcing my point though.
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>>14395
I don't disagree with your premise that allowing your enemies to change your use of words is a compromising position, but truly, Kike and Kikel are just as much Slurs as Sheeny, Moolie, Coolie and Nigger are.
as Such, the social "Prohibition" of such words is much more detrimental than any possibility that the KIKES want you to call them that.
(They Don't)
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>>14392
>>14393
>>14394
>>14395
>>14405
As the anon who derided the absurdity of purity spiraling in the context of words with a jewish genesis, while also defending the use of the word Satanic / satanic, I was careful about adding in a caveat: go all the way and completely remove ALL words of the enemy if you're going to engage in this level of purity spiraling. I don't mock people who do this, but I do mock people who throw an autistic fit over words such as satanic while still using words such as 'glitch' or 'kike'. Be one or the other, otherwise it's the most trite and time-wasting example of being an uneducated, hypocritical buffoon.

While you're at it, you might as well drop White and use ethnic European instead. White is derived from the jewish slavetrade mindset of not seeing ethnicities, cultures, and nations. Think of how you use 'brown' and 'black' when scornfully viewing and labeling others you see as lesser, and realize you are using the same terminology when addressing your own people. It's no different than niggers referring to each other as niggers with pride, trying to claim the chains of their masters: it's better to move towards doing away with such language entirely unless maintaining it for the express purpose of 'the lesser other', as is the case for brown, black, red, and yellow.
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In the ethnostate any American who unintentionally uses Yiddishisms will be gassed (oy vey!)
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Big data really has the potential to wreck political correctness. What happens when you can tell if someone is going to be gay or a criminal solely based on brain scans? You could remove them from society before they even become a problem. The only problem is Jews run all the AI companies
>>14410
>In the ethnostate any American who unintentionally uses Yiddishisms will be gassed (oy vey!)
Yes, that attitude should be mocked. Rightfully so, which was my stance. Making moves to rid all Yiddishisms, however, as the end goal is a noble one. I don't think using the term goy or goyim when referring to your own people should ever be used for example, unless you're directly labeling someone a goy who absolutely is a goy (think Mike Johnson or arguably Donald Trump, although Trump is almost assuredly an actual kike by religion and covert conversion).
I see nothing wrong of using usury towards non-whites.
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>>14408
I think you attribute far too much credit to the Kikes here.
Yiddish is a pidgin language of mixed German and hebrew. Truly, like a weak bully who gets their power to shove others around by moving into their spaces, then call "FOUL!" because you are "In their space" the same can, and does happen linguisticly in a social sense.
Just look at the word Nigger. up until the 80s, it was seen as a word, albeit vulgar and a slur, that would even be said on the ((( News ))) in context, and was also in ((( entertainment ))) (Blazing saddles is a glaring example, as are the dirty joke books of the early 80s)

No, I don't believe words should ever be "forbidden" from the White man's tongue.
The tactic of changing the meanings of words over time, and making others "Off-limits" to Whites is intellectually abhorrent to me.
If a White wants to use the ignorant patois of niggers, it only marks them as a lemming. One can either reel them in and show them the error of their language, or ignore them completely as a worthless cause.

They even attempted to have a mock funeral for the word NIGGER in 2007. We can all see how that went.
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>>14408
Also, I wasn't accusing you of being the guy sperging on "Kike language" I do mostly agree with you; but you also have to remember that most of the words "with a jewish genesis", are simply stolen from others anyway. 
Big surprise, huh?

I truly believe one of the MOST KEY things we can do for White, Western Europeans, is to take back the printing presses and Universities from the jews. it was them who corrupted the Babble, then moved on to the history books, then the schoolbooks, then...

In addition, they have done such subversive actions as allowing and even exalting, garbage language such as Niggermumble and pidgin, even into ((( News Sources ))) as an effort to normalize such low IQ communications.

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin
and
https://youtu.be/gsI0kXaBUpU
Get a load of the "News anchor's" name.
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>>14419
>...but you also have to remember that most of the words "with a jewish genesis", are simply stolen from others anyway. 
Big surprise, huh?
I know. It's another reason I find it frustrating when people from our camp sperg on words such as satanic, which is yet another reason I roll my eyes before pressing the purity spiral argument and hold them to their own standards. There's no real concept I can think of to point to which confers demonic or satanic properly, as two minor examples among many. Is there any good substitute either for goy or golem, as a rhetorical question? These last two probably aren't stolen, but are clear examples of why removing language entirely quickly cripples communication (in our present day).

I'm not knocking removing language entirely as end goal in the future as said before, but stick to it if you choose to do it now and do it completely if you commit to linguistic purity over communication. I would like to see all these things from our vocabulary (and later our thought processes completely as a side effect), but the sacrifice of communication at this present time is clear.

>I truly believe one of the MOST KEY things we can do for White, Western Europeans, is to take back the printing presses and Universities from the jews. it was them who corrupted the Babble, then moved on to the history books, then the schoolbooks, then...
Completely agree.

>In addition, they have done such subversive actions as allowing and even exalting, garbage language such as Niggermumble and pidgin, even into (((  News Sources  ))) as an effort to normalize such low IQ communications.
Check out the pidgin translations of the Christian Bible for a very hilarious read, on that note. Doesn't matter if you aren't a cross-nigger, it's still damn funny.
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>>14419
>it was them who corrupted the Babble
How do you corrupt something that is jewish in nature and origin?
>>14417
Yeah but do you really want to loan money to niggers at all?
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>>14390
>>14392
Drop the purity spiraling you moron.
>>14410
Very funny.
>>14417
Agreed.
>>14422
>Is there any good substitute either for goy or golem, as a rhetorical question? 
No. The former is both a cultural and religious segregating term that doubles as pejorative, the second is hard to replace too and the closest thing you could use is robot, puppet, and you already see why they fail shot of golem.
>>14427
Only if you force them to pay even more taxes. Therefore you drain their vitality away. It works even better if you do it against a whole nigger nation that is bottled up so it cannot send its demographic surplus out. Plus these apemen can't even swim for shit so that's a plus, all the migration is allowed by ((( NGOs ))) and technology that niggers can't even replicate.
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>>14430
Bro, niggers don't pay anything in taxes. 
Now nigger nations, yes, we could loan them money (assuming we were a state) but we'd need some pretty good collateral since I'm pretty sure that African states don't repay their debt.
>>14430
>No. The former is both a cultural and religious segregating term that doubles as pejorative, the second is hard to replace too and the closest thing you could use is robot, puppet, and you already see why they fail shot of golem.
Exactly, which is why I posed it as a rhetorical question. There's no good substitute, yet these clearly are non-stolen authentic jewish-genesized words, yet we still can't do without them (for now, at least until jews are erased from existence. Even then, the concepts need to remain so that usurpers can never take hold again).
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Feminism and fascism are compatible
https://youtu.be/QWpxWHeFweA
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>>14486
No they aren't.
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>>14486
Fascism is kind of a quintessentially masculine ideology. It's really about national pride, teamwork, and self mastery on an individual and societal level.
Feminism is anti-masculine. Not even feminine, just anti-nature. It's not about raising up women so much as it is about destroying men.
You cannot combine such diametrically opposed ideals.

Unlike feminism, which is anti-masculine, fascism is not anti-feminine or anti-women. So it's no surprise that many women were fascists. Half the population of fascists in the past were women. 
The misunderstanding seems to be that anything women support must be feminist when actually women were just supporting an ideology that elevated everyone of their race.
Feminism is inherently selfish while fascism is true altruism (not self destroying altruism but real altruism)
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>>14489
Because men are naturally superior feminists can only pretend to be equal by becoming outright misandrists. It's like the blacks who pretend wewuz kangz because niggers don't have any history of their own to plausibly claim
>>14487
have you read the Doctrine of Fascism (the shorter version not that long one done with Gentile). It literally has things that are feminist just not in the current sense and with a focus on the traditional family unit.
Passport bros are based. The only white women who aren't worthless whores are too young to marry. White slavery is cringe but what happens in the Philippines stays in the Philippines
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>>14502
>sex tourism is based!
Whatever you say, Moishe.
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>>14489
True, true. I guess the important thing here is the connection between the word and a concept. Fascism, at that time, could be considered feminist in many ways, through elevating women, maternity, motherhood, while also giving them political representation in a new way. This is obviously very different to the feminism of today which wants to destroy the family as it is "oppressive" or something.
Anyways I was shilling my video with that. Had to reupload with some edits.
https://youtu.be/XG_EKWckTeY
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>>14508
I guess but most people understand feminism to mean anti male hatred. It's like how some libertarians want to call themselves 'liberals'. But they end up having to prove over and over again that they aren't shitlibs who want to raise taxes to pay for free sex changes for 5 year olds.
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>>14509
I would say that is misandry. But I think we can mostly agree on the point and that these terms can get messy.
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>>14513
>misandry
Oh yeah, that's the word I was searching for.
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>>14505
Men need to get their confidence up. Even if you're autistic high IQ is worth perpetuating. But Western women are either uppity, insane, or fat/ugly. I'm not saying it's impossible to become sexually experienced here, but you'd have to put up with a lot of shit. Prostitutes in America are over $200 for a non crack-whore from what I've read on 4chan. You can bang an 18yo flip for like 50 bucks. And the cost of hotels there is very cheap.

In a perfect world there would probably be no prostitution. But for those of us who aren't gigachad, it's the easiest and cheapest way to build confidence with women imo. Bang the gook whores for fun, then come home and marry some reformed slag just to make white babies.

I don't actually care about your opinion and am going to do it anyway. I just don't want my fellow spergs to feel shame for being rejected by foids. Yes men need to be in shape and stuff but my coworker is a decent looksmaxxer and his gf is a 3/10 fat tatted-up whore. The problem is that marriage has been deliberately destroyed. Until we can form our own communities where cops who try to arrest men for disciplining their wives get fed to their fellow pigs, things are just going to be fucked for most men.
>>14518
I would also feel bad having sex with a white whore, especially a younger one. Anglin used to talk about how much he liked mongering in Eastern Europe but I'm sure that shit is run by the Jewish mafia and just depressing. Who cares what happens to some gook bitch? Not that I'm into hurting anyone; I'm pretty vanilla. Like I said, experience = confidence = white babies. I get my wizard powers this year. Once I have them there's really no incentive not to become a passport bro kek
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>>14518
>>14519
Diabolical advice.
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>>14521
NOT AN ARGUMENT

not dying a virgin just because some white nationalists hate Asian women so much they won't even treat 'em like a prostitute lmao

I won't have kids or at worst I won't bring them into any white country. It's literally insane to put up with Western women while the dollar is still so strong. To modify the Turkish saying, "white women are for babies and gook whores are for fucking"
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>>14524
You're like one of the few edge cases where suicidal ideation is a noble quality to have.
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>>14525
Considering I've been on the chans since 2013 (i.e. an eternal summerfag) I take being told to commit suicide as the highest compliment. I'm sick of white men being shamed for their natural sexuality. If our women won't put out then a certain level of race mixing is inevitable. The goal should be to minimize the negative impact it has on our home countries. Don't bring your gook whore home to birthe kids on US soil, obviously.

We have to fix marriage laws or the West is going to die. If marriage affords men no rights and allows women to take the kids and house, no rational man is going to reproduce outside of situations with a power differencial. Such as Anglin banging Eastern European whores for $50 because the Judeoamericans raped the former Eastern Bloc. Or Boomers with their Filipinas. I see it all the time. And you know what? They're based. If no one with money or power in the West is willing to do what is necessary to save the place - not just fixing marriage but mass deportations, 🚁, etc. then the West deserves to die. And its death is in fact inevitable.

Peter Theil just moved to Argentina. Where are you going to move when the Dems inevitably win again in 2028 and mass import another 50 million subhumans?

Tim Pool said tonight that Uruguay is 85% white. What is America? 50?
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>>14526
<posts adam green
<quotes tim pool
<uses emoticons unironically
<pro-race mixing
Grim. Is this really the quality of our enemy's propagandists? I guess winning this war and exterminating jews is easier than I expected.
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>>14527
>Everyone who disagrees with me is an enemy
Bro, I'm just a WN with no life who frequents this place because 16 got taken down. The people on Fashfront are just as insane. I don't see any orgs in America worth joining. Though I'm going to start messaging everybody and see what I get back. I just want white men to be able to work productive jobs and have large families again. Clearly that will require legally and with due process disposing of millions of 400lb bureaucrats committed to henpecking our race to death

Also what's wrong with Adam Green I thought this was an anti-Christian board
>>14528
>Also what's wrong with Adam Green I thought this was an anti-Christian board
It's not Green by himself, it's all the other things together. You remember the old statements about Mike Rowe, the Dirty Jobs guy?

It's not that he lives in San Fransisco for decades, it's not that he's unmarried with no family or known girlfriends, it's not that he's an entertainment television personality, and it's not that he's a trained opera singer. It's all of them together, in other words, which paint a different picture.
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>>14528
Didn't properly reply to your other text. 
>Bro, I'm just a WN with no life who frequents this place because 16 got taken down. The people on Fashfront are just as insane. I don't see any orgs in America worth joining. Though I'm going to start messaging everybody and see what I get back. I just want white men to be able to work productive jobs and have large families again.
Alright, fair enough, my nigger. What is wrong with Fashfront, out of curiosity? I kept seeing their community just posting jaks, although their actual community's backbone material, literature, and media seems good. Was hoping they had private channels for communicating, but it seems John Smith did away with that?
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>>14529
He has a wife and children. As someone who's sucked a few cocks he doesn't seem gay to me. He's just extremely autistic, which makes his content hard to watch for most people. He gets what, 200 live viewers? We really need an anti-Abrahamic streamer who's less of a sperg
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>>14532
>He has a wife and children.
No, I wasn't talking about Green, I was saying it painted a picture about you.
>As someone who's sucked a few cocks he doesn't seem gay to me. 
Oh, well, there it is.
>>14531
I just don't like seejtards. I used to be a leftist and I thought anarkiddies proved 100 years ago that propaganda of the deed doesn't work. Most people are NPCs and you need a vanguard. Muh masses will never spontaneously rise up. Or if they do, the elites have all the wealth and planning ability to BTFO retarded proles.
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>>14528
>>14535
>Clearly that will require legally and with due process disposing of millions of 400lb bureaucrats committed to henpecking our race to death
>Muh masses will never spontaneously rise up. 
Seejtards or accelerationists? Siege is a shitty book, but from what I can tell, it only spawned the whole readseej because it explicitly was about the idea of dropping Rockwell tactic and engaging in accelerationism instead. Which, as your own posts show, this is indeed the last option remaining.
>>14527
Don't forget
>namedropping Andrew 'Thai Fuck-Shack' Anglin

Also whorehopping is degenerate, and promoting degeneracy is explicitly against the rules of this board.
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>>14518
>my coworker is a decent looksmaxxer and his gf is a 3/10 fat tatted-up whore.
Women can sense desperation in a man like a shark smells blood in water. The problem with locksmaxxers is that the entire reason why they're looksmaxxing is to get a girl. Getting the girl became his enthralling mission and he snatched up the very first opportunity. 
Hopefully, he just uses this as practice and finds a non-fat woman. This could be like a tutorial for him
>Ah, okay so this is what having a woman is like, this is the beta version.
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>>14565
>Expecting a channer to read the rules
My bad. I feel like I made my point anyway. Like I said, it's definitely degenerate, but I feel like it's my only option at this point and I don't want other dudes to feel bad for making the best of a bad situation.
>>14567
I think it's more he's already pumped and dumped every other girl in his social circle so the fat ugly bitch is the only one who will take him lmao
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>>14568
Just kill yourself, kike.
I think the idea of “ancestors worshiping” is stupid and cringe, like our ancestors have done so much stupid things and decisions that are unforgivable. Like were our ancestors right when they abolished slavery and gave freedom to the niggers? Or when they let the jews do banking, giving loans and engage in usury? Or when they fought against nazi germany? Our ancestors deserve respect but they do not deserve to be viewed as infallibles.
>>14582
That's not what ancestor worship is.
>>14582
>dude just throw everything else out because jews exploited white empathy
>just throw out thousands of years of absolute world dominance because of the jew virus recently taking hold
>>14582
What if we instead worshiped the idea of our ancestors?
>>14568
What a waste.
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