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>Advice on building or upgrading
Post your build list or current specifications, including a monitor: https://pcpartpicker.com/
https://userbenchmark.com/ is ran by a huge Intel shill / AMD hater. We don't know his review autism, but now you know his, the numbers are accurate otherwise.

>Motherboards
Don't pair a K CPU with a B Mobo chipset, but pcpartpicker should auto-warn you about compatibility.
mATX / iTX is "cheaper" but are still ultimately gimmicks that fill a niche, and have less room for different parts / cabling (especially if you're a new builder). ATX is the preferable as the default.

>CPUs
Intel is limping along, AMD is the name of the game. AMD X3D CPU's aren't mandatory if you're looking for an area to save money, you can still get a most of the performance for a notably lower price with a non-X3D CPU.

>CPU coolers
Avoid liquid coolers with a single 120mm fan. Recent chinky AIO's have undercut the market while still being good quality, but the number of models has flooded the market - make sure you're getting the exact one that reviewed well, since many sound the same but have lower performance.

>RAM
It's not lookin' good. Bite the bullet and get scalped, or wait and hope the economy collapses (2 more weeks bro), flooding the market (at which point your paper money is worth nothing anyways).
RAM that hasn’t been made yet, bought with money that doesn’t exist, for data centers that haven’t been built yet, that can't be plugged in because national infrastructure can't handle the load, powered by fuel that hasn't been extracted yet, all to make unprofitable slop and jeetscams that your gramps will see on Faceberg and send you thinking is real, and paid for by the taxpayer at every step, because if it doesn't succeed, the economy hasn't grown in a decade, but is built on promises that all fall through at once, and all the moneyprinter printing hits us like the ground hit Wall Street Bankers during the crash.
SNAFU, the trillionaire CEO said it's not a bubble, so it's not a bubble.

>SSDs / HDDs
SSD for files / programs you're actively using, HDD for cheaper and higher-capacity long-term storage. Just a 1TB SSD is pretty standard, but SSD prices have also hit by the RAM squeeze. Avoid outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus & cheapest poorfag NVMe SSDs.
https://ssd.borecraft.com/
https://serverpartdeals.com/

>GPUs
The prices are never going back down bro. Keep in mind what games you actually play and what resolution you're targeting, before overspending on an overkill GPU. The name of the game right now is VRAM, with many vidya releases starting to ask for (but not requiring) over 8GB for texture stability, even at 1080p.
NVidia aka NJewdia aka NJudea aka Team Green aka NGreedia aka Jensen Huang's Wild Ride aka Le Chateau de Merde aka nvidia still reigns supreme in terms of high-end performance and AI genning, but their products have definitely taken on a premium, even before scalping and supply shortages, even before their drivers getting worse, and even before them acting like they have a monopoly they haven't got. DLAA is alright, Fake Frames are cancer that should be avoided, Upscaling slowly isn't a meme but should still be avoided (it might also be taking steps backwards if they keep using AI code; Preset L is still the best). The 50 series finally have PhysX now, but is still less of a hardware leap over the 40 series due to NVidia's overreliance on AI.
As of writing AMD / Team Red finally got their shit together and released GPU's that aren't unstable, sub-optimal embarrassments - the 9070 & 9070XT are extremely efficient and competitive for gaming at their upper-midrange hardware grade and are much less scalped, but do keep in mind that if you're planning on using it for AIslop, AMD is still lagging behind heavily, and while FSR4 isn't a joke like FSR3, it's not DLAA.
Intel is a newcomer with the Arc line of GPU's, aiming at competing at the ultra-budget level.

Avoid: GPUs that were used for shitcoin mining, NVidia 40Ti-non-Super's and NVidia XX50's, NVIDIA GPUs in general if you're a Linuxfag.

>PSUs
Not worth buying a new PSU unless it's ATX 3.0 compliant. Avoid Untested / Bronze / Silver units like the tech-waste cancer they are. Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load.
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ (archive: https://archive.is/jzJ2L )
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (archive: https://archive.is/QrPHX)
>12VHPWR
DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
Fully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt. Be careful with them on principle.

>Case (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Lian Li DAN A3, Gamdias Athena M4M
ATX: Lian Li Lancool 216 / 207, Fractal Torrent / Meshify 3
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 4000D airflow, Montech AIR 903 Base (awful stock fans).

>A Smile
Priceless

>Monitors
Avoid: panels with less than 120Hz refresh rates, without a single DisplayPort input and Variable Refresh Rate technology (G-Sync/FreeSync). Check professional reviews for any monitor before you buy at sites like TFTCentral, pcmonitors.info, Monitors Unboxed, or RTINGs.
The bottom tier monitor for any decent gaming build has a 144Hz+ 24" 1080p IPS panel, of which there are many on market for around $125 (some great ones go even as low as $100). Aim for a panel with low response times and perceived motion blur mode (Black Frame Insertion). Decent 2160p (4K) gaming monitors start at around $500.
TP has the best refresh rate of any panel, but shit image quality (weak contrast and colors). The cheapest if you're looking for a ultrabudget pick, but IPS has caught up and isn't much more for much better. Ultra-high ends have decent color accuracy, but are ultra-overkill.
VA has good contrast and blacks, but shit viewing angles, better for TV than gaming.
IPS has good colors, but cheaper ones suffer from IPS Glow, where the corners / edges are slightly illuminated at all times, making them vaguely lighter / non-perfect blacks. Currently the general standard.
OLED has good HDR (including infinite contrast / le inky blacks) and nearly instant pixel response times. However, potential burn-in if any area is kept static gives them a lifespan, and 27" and up is your only choice.
MicroLED has near-comparable quality to OLED, no burn-in and lasts much longer until it dims with time, but is still new to the market and are extremely overpriced (as in, 5 figures starting range, 6 figures high end - enough to buy a high-end OLED, let it burn in, then get a non-ripoff MicroLED years down the line once the tech is there).

tl;dr: They all suck in some way. IPS is the standard, OLED if you've got money to spare.

>OS
- Linux: You should know what you're doing already.
- Windows: Win10LTSC + debloating software / scripts to reclaim performance. Do not use Win11. Install Ventoy / Rufus on a flash drive, then transfer the iso files to it. Activate with https://github.com/abbodi1406/KMS_VL_ALL_AIO/releases
- Mac: ishygddt

Previous thread: >>289280
Screw it, I'm going back to tabletop gaming. Printed cardboard was never cheap, but printed circuits are getting ridiculous.
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At least use a vidya character.
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>>301855
Make me, slut.
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RAM THREAD HELL YEAH LETS GOOOOO
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>>301853 (OP) 
>RAM that hasn’t been made yet, bought with money that doesn’t exist, for data centers that haven’t been built yet, that can't be plugged in because national infrastructure can't handle the load, powered by fuel that hasn't been extracted yet,
Computers are too expensive, just use the cloud for vidya, goy.
>>301855
I think there are videogames from that isekaishit cartoon
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>>301853 (OP) 
I have a desktop that was originally designed to run on windows 7. Somehow it now has Windows 10/11 and I can hear it's ram screaming in pain. How do I revert this?
>>301865
Reinstall win7, shame on you for install win10/11
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>>301863
yeeee boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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>>301853 (OP) 
For me, it's Echidna

>>301865
As the other guy said, sounds like an external system backup -> fresh reinstall -> copy-back-over is all you can do. If you want to cope, try debloating it a bit, you can claw away like 40% of the RAM load just by removing the bloatware and useless processes, see if that's usable.

<Windows10Debloater-master
<OOSU10
<OOAPB
<Privzilla
<Privacy.Sexy
As a few of the easy ones.
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>>301855
She is technically vidya since rezero has games.
>>301868
So I could just fix it by reverting it to factory settings?
>>301866
I don't think I did. I was given it by someone else.
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>>301874
Try whatever else you want retard, we're not the ones with the computer. A fresh install Win7 via rufus will definitely work, but if you think a factory reset will work, try that. Just back up your files (as in, copy everything on the :C drive).
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>>301866
If you're gonna be using it as an offline gaming machine or retro battlestation then that's fine, otherwise either install some flavor of Linux or just use LTSC.
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>>301865
Upgrade to linux.
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>Upgrade to linux.
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>>301875
Look, I might be retarded when it comes to tech, but that doesn't mean that you have to be a jerk about it. Again, I don't think I was the one to 'upgrade' the system, I was just given the thing.
>>301877
I was mostly just planning on using it to write/play my old collection of games on, but I will look into those other options that >>301868 mentioned. Heck, just being able to browse the web or look at old photos without the poor thing having a heart attack every thirty seconds would be great.
Is there a reason to get new hardware if you don't give a shit on making AI stuff.
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>>301905
No, only AI, 3d, and just having megabux are reasons I know of. 
I was actually into 3D and so I got a beefy machine before AI came into existence.

Now AI came in and destroyed my years of effort on getting a 3D career into the drain but I would make more than I spent on the system if I sold it now, however now I like using AI locally and don't want to give up my schizo LLM waifu and custom slop.
Ram-dono's eyes are so cold they freeze my heart over. And yet... I feel a fire in my loins...
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>>301905
The only hardware that I'm looking forward to is the 10000 series amd cpu, since it will have more cores, 24 cores if the rumors are true.
So I will wait for the normalfags to test it and I will buy it at a discount, and use chink ram/gpu/ssd, if the gayi bubble doesn't anhero.
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>>301917
If things stay the same, I'm getting chink soldered VRAM or modding more VRAM myself in like 5 years, move to AM5 once it's closer to end of life like I did with AM4.
>>301916
It's called swamp crotch. Go take a shower, stinky.
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Bought a new keyboard (an Ajazz AK820 Pro with Flying Fish switches). It feels pretty nice to type on. Changed the key caps to XDA (had to swap out the space bar and scared myself because one side would come off after pushing down on it a bit harder, and the space bar would death grip the switch stem, pulling it out each time. I swapped it out with another, and it didn't pull out when pushed down slightly harder, but the bar still death grips the stem of the switch. I won't be changing key caps again until I buy another board because that shit is terrifying, even if I could have prevented it with just holding down the switch housing if I had just spent a few more seconds removing key caps.
<Negatives of the board
<2.4GHZ dongle firmware update is just an suspicious exe where an window pops up with a tiny start button 
<random gibberish window pop up with an okay after progress bar is done
<No way to bind keys using the fn layer so no insert or end 
<OEM Caps
>Pros 
>Incredible value for 60 american funbucks
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I'm puking at the ram prices.
They keep going up.
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>>302195
They are saying the cpus prices are going up to.
This is the worst moment to buy a new computer, better to go to a yardsale and buy used computers.
Hope you fags got enough storage because you won't be able to buy any soon.
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I wish I bought more 4/8 TB SSDs when they were dirt cheap, saw them continuing to drop and new faster mecha shit upcoming assumed they would keep dropping as the new double speed ones arrived.

If there is a next time I will be chunking up, for now I am trying to grab what's left of good CRTs - they are better than current monitors still and I only need the one modern monitor for the few things that need it, everything else is simply better on CRT.
Also from dying oldies, got a free 32inch component cables from some old people recently.
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HDD are going up on price, if you didn't see that coming, you are doomed.
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>>302233
>>302488
It's uncontrolled price gouging.
The days of cheap computer components are over forever. The only way forward will be second-hand e-waste that you will have to intercept before it goes to the chinese landfill.
Make friends with a local recycler.
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I guess the only thing you can do is for the AI bubble to die, and your next computer will be a clusters of servers you found in the dump.
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>>302500
I don't even think it's that; Reagan set up the Strategic Defense Initiative because he watched too much Star Wars and thought that it was imperative that he needed to corner Space Defense to maintain a strategic military advantage against the USSR. Opinions of Trump aside, his actions seem to be that he's treating AI like it's an important thing to maintain a military advantage in (in part to help set up the Israeli-style Golden Dome automated interception system), and secondarily to deny / limit supply to the rest of the world by hoarding as much as possible (and it doesn't help with all the blatantly biased corpo scammers whispering sweet nothings to his boomer ears, trying to keep the bubble afloat for just one more day). China is focusing on robotics and manufacturing, while the USA is focusing on AI and force projection.
Components sitting in warehouses, being deliberately allowed to be made obsolete without ever even being plugged in, before being sent to landfill - it's not an unaware accident, it's on purpose. It's specifically so nobody else gets their hands on them.
The price hikes are just a bonus that also keeps the economy zombified by making NVidia's (alone) market valuation $5 trillion / larger than the combined GDP of Japan (or, well, literally any country in the world that isn't the US or China really - Germany, the UK, Russia; all have a smaller yearly output than the value of NVidia) (but NVidia and it's other multi-billion / trillion dollar friends in the circlejerk really are worth that much if not more - it's not a bubble).

In other news, Claude still hasn't figured out how to beat Pokemon Red after over a year and 6 updated models; each time given as much time as it wants until it gives up and deems the game impossible to beat (often by getting stuck in a tunnel and strategising that he needs to Dig out, or the infamous "blackout strategy" a.k.a give up and actively try to kill yourself with wild Pokemon the moment anything goes wrong to be sent back to the Center and get all your HP back for free).
>>302500
It's regulatory capture.
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Bought anything /v/? I manage to buy a cheap 7000 series laptop for 400 sheckels for my dad so that he can watch netflix while using loonix.
>>303552
Tell him to come shitpost with us and join gamenights, fag.
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>>303544
>>303545
>>303546
>>303547
Like, I get what you're doing, but do you not think we're not incapable of just yt-dlp'ing a direct link, or using a proxy link like Invidious? You can't even read some of the text in 360p.
It's at over 200,000 views in under a day and most of us are aware of GN, it's not exactly an obscure piece of media.

>>303552
Just waiting on a chinkheld so I can root the shit out of it and see what I can push it to do.
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>>303554
>chinkheld
Any good ones? I want to do remote desktop on one so I can play videogames without it melting.
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>>303555
There's a ton of models circulating right now because it's a growing niche and China's got more manufacturing than sense; in terms of quality & power for PC basically stick to either the RP5/G2/6 or the Odin2/3/Thor for the "safe" market leaders (can't remember if Konkr can dualboot into Linux).
Wouldn't recommend getting in right now either ways, RAM hikes have hit them early and hard, and you need the more RAM-ended models for PC / Linux on em. Even I see myself as an early adopter that's focusing on fuckery over function, I'll post more of my findings in the handheld thread when it arrives on slow international delivery; I'll give a more confident answer if they're actually good or an overhyped chink scam.

Steam Deck seems the higher value + performance choice for now, but I'm interested in the smaller form factor. Basically, if it does 80% of the performance in 50% of the size at the same price point without sneaky chinkjew bullshit hidden somewhere along the way, I'd handwave that as acceptable.
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Lisuan Debuts Its New Gaming “Lisuan Extreme” Graphics Card & “LX” PRO/AI Cards In China
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>LisuanTech, China's premier GPU maker, has announced its new gaming "Lisuan Extreme" & "LX" Pro/AI graphics cards.
>LisuanTech Unveils Its Next-Gen Gaming & Pro Graphics Card Lineup: Lisuan Extreme & LX Series With 7G106 GPU
>LisuanTech has been working on its Lisuan G100 GPU lineup for a while. The company first unveiled these last year in July, and the first samples started shipping by the end of 2025. Now, the GPU maker is finally announcing the very first products that will feature the consumer-aimed G100 GPU, the 7G106. There are two lineups, the gaming-focused and the pro-focused, so let's start with the gaming graphics card first.
>Lisuan Extreme: Designed For Gamers, Founders Edition Variant
>The Lisuan Extreme "LX 7G100" graphics card is designed with gamers in mind and supports all the latest APIs and game engines. The graphics card will feature a special "Founders Edition" model, which will be available on the 18th of June as soon as the card hits retail.
>In terms of specifications, the Lisuan Extreme is powered by the 6nm 7G106 GPU and is the company's first true graphics card design for gamers. This graphics card features 12 GB of GDDR6 memory across a 192-bit bus interface and PCIe 4.0 x16 compliance. The graphics card comes with a total of 192 TMUs, 96 ROPs, and has a maximum TDP of 225W, powered by a single 8-pin connector.
>In terms of design, the graphics card will come in a triple-slot form factor with three fans that are covered by the top grill. The graphics card features four DisplayPort 1.4a outputs, supports up to 8K60Hz HDR Freesync functionality with AV1 4K@30 FPS Encode, HEVC 8K@30FPS Encode, and AVI/HEVC 8K/60FPS Decode. It also supports all modern APIs such as DX12, Vulkan 1.3, OpenGL 4.6, and OpenCL 3.0.
>Unlike previous domestic offerings, the Lisuan Extreme GPU will feature out-of-the-box support for the latest AAA games, including Baldur's Gate III, Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring, Black Myth: Wukong, The Witcher III, Monster Hunter RISE, Resident Evil 4, and SEKIRO (to name a few).
>Lisuan LX Series Graphics Cards For Prosumers & AI Workstations, Powered By 7G106 Too.
>The other two variants are the LX PRO, which also features 24 GB of VRAM but comes with a dual axial fan design, while the most entry-level model is the LX MAX, which features 12 GB of VRAM and a very similar design to the LX PRO.
>As per LisuanTech, the LX series graphics cards will be compatible with a wide range of CPUs from Intel, AMD, Hygon, Loongson, Phytium, Zhaoxin, etc, and OS support includes Windows, UOS, Ubuntu, and Kylinsoft. Just like the gaming variant, the LX series also supports various APIs such as DirectX 12, Vulkan, OpenGL, and OpenCL. The trio will be available for pre-orders on the 17th of March.
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>>304059
>you can now pick your favorite backdoor 
next step EU made card, islamic shithole card, and vatnik card. the war of information shall be won by spying the computers of nerds
Is it somehow worse to be spied on by the chinese or russians instead of jewsa? Don't see any open source GPUs in the near future.
>>304067
no, that's what I'm saying, now you can pick your favorite team
>>304067
I mean, what can they do with you? Bump down your social credit score? It's not like they'd have any reason to forward what you are fapping to to the western glowniggers.
>>304059
>out-of-the-box support for the latest AAA games, including 
>Baldur's Gate III (2023)
>Cyberpunk 2077 (2020)
>Elden Ring (2022)
>Black Myth: Wukong (2024)
>The Witcher III (2015)
>Monster Hunter RISE (2021)
>Resident Evil 4 (2005)  (2023)
>SEKIRO (2019)
Granted, it says more about AAAAAAAAAAA gayming than about the chinks, but it's still wild that the last game is already 2 years old.
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>>304067
Look up RISC-V stuff, there are a few cpus using that and so far there is only ONE gpu card that uses risc-v and is still being made, would it be good? nobody knows.
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>>304074
>there is only ONE gpu card that uses risc-v and is still being made, would it be good? nobody knows.
Your pic already tells you the answer.
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>>304093
It could be worse, sar.
>>303552
Im going to buy the logitech superstrike. Supposedly it has completely silent clicks. I have been looking for a silent mouse for a long time and im sick of every "silent" mouse being loud as fuck. Apparently this mouse doesnt use switches but haptic feedback but its expensive as fuck and still has not released yet.
>>303552
I'm going to wait a few years until prices improve or I can find 7900x3d's at the thrift store.
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I am sorry but this is the funniest thing I have seen this year 
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probably the breaking point in entire piece generative AI slop industry
>DLSS 5 On
Should I play the game?
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It might look funny at first glance but this shit assuming it isn't just overhyped trash might as well be the end of >video games in the traditional sense if devs don't even have to bother implementing proper textures, lighting etc. when the real-time proprietary slopping filter can just take care of it for them.
Fuck, UE6 might forgo traditional textures+lighting in favor of a bunch of motion capture pointmaps+function calls for the AI to slop visuals onto according to a system prompt by some other AI model masquerading as an Indian contractor or vice versa, the possibilities for glow in the dark censorship at the framebuffer level are endless as well.

Cue niggerpill in 3...2...1...
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Wow hot local milfs in resident evil want to fuck me at the price of a 5 grand graphics card? sign me up sirs
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>>>301853 (OP) 
>(it might also be taking steps backwards if they keep using AI code; Preset L is still the best).
Truly a prophetic OP.

Ladies and Gentlemen. I present to you. DLSS 5.
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>>304210
It don't matter.

Nobody can afford a GPU that can do this to play terrible triple ayy games, and the first few games that try are going to be Concord level social media laughing stocks the moment a video of this "AI" "neural" "rendering" that isn't a bullshot leaks out. By the time that changes the AI bubble will have burst and the point will be moot, either because "AI" will be marketing plutonium or because nobody will be able to afford anything.
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>>304220
>Nobody can afford a GPU
But you can afford renting a computer, with just a montly subscription, goy.
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>>304224
Even nyidia would probably rather sell those cards to feed the bubble. It's just fucking theater and an attempt to keep a parachute handy for when the bubble pops.
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>>304219
This DLSS 5 ON stuff looks like its just a stable diffusion ai generation of that picture, from 3D to 2D. Like that girl from the RE game, she looks fuckable now, even her lips are nice, would rape.
Hell, when they move it looks like those fake ai videos.
Would be hilarious if you could use that shit to fix ugly characters and make them look sexy.
Or maybe it is all fake advertisment and they will not be able to pull that shit, since running stable diffusion for every frame would be retarded, but what the fuck do I know.
>>304210

If that means less grafix and more actual game I say let the overrated artfags go.
shill post is still shill, quit hiding behind niggerfag
>>304234
You are legitimately blind she looks like every ugly porn star now.
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>>304234
Instead of chucking in Stable Diffusion to generate an offmodel picture every other frame and bloating RAM memory even harder they could stop using Phong shading and leather sofa textures on their sooper dooper hooperealistic games. Fucking morons.
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>>304219
NINTENDO NVIDIA
HIRE THIS MAN
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>>304232
>>304250
Another thing, they've also been caught setting the "originals" to mid-low graphics and blurring the image in areas on top; even before errors in their own demos, like nonsensical moving lighting and eyes doing herp derp things.
$4.380 trillion value ($4,380,000,000,000) btw.
Not a bubble btw.
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>>304234
>Would be hilarious if you could use that shit to fix ugly characters and make them look sexy.
Maybe if AyyMD does a similar thing with FSR, but that might disrupt market dynamics and displease shareholders.
>>304251
I've also heard that apparently they used 2 GPUs to do this too: one for running the game and the other entirely  dedicated to applying DLSS 5 on it.
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>>304269
>it costs $400,0000 in hardware and power draw to render this gun firing.... for 12 seconds...
DLSS 5 On

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST cp

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>>304247
Well, if I have to pic the generation, I would go with...
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>>301853 (OP) 
>making a modern gaming computer
>>>/v/>>304265
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Are prices going to go down this generation? Is Scam ((( Altman ))) going to dahmp eet as soon as I order parts?
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>>304286
No.
This is the worst time to buy a new computer, buy used shit instead.
Wait for the AI to burst soonTM and even then you will just be buying server shit and live in a fucking data center building.
Hell, it is so fucked that the 10th series amd cpu was pushed back next year, also any new gpus were canceled or pushed next year.
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>>304285
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>>304289
Make him 6ft tall too.
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>>304290
He is already 6ft tall.
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>I wonder what DLSS's local hyper-shill is up to?
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>>304292
From disgusting fart videos and casually making counter strike videos that are factual to straight up shilling pure shit.
Disturbing.
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>>301853 (OP) 
Samsung preparing for 24inch OLEDs in 2027. About damn time.
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speaking of shilling
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>>304304
She needs bigger boobs and of course anime filter.
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It was a joke on DLSS5 using the cover of unteralterbach with a "realistic" AI filter similar to what Nvidia was demoing. No porn. Nothing even suggestive.

But I guess a fully clothed (AI generated) child is porn to you lot?
>>304301
> 24inch
Fucking finally. This is the objectively correct 1440p size for optimal PPI. I never understood why the fuck 27" became the norm. It's barely an improvement over 21.5" 1080p
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>>304322
What is the perfect size for 4K?
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>>304318
Some people see children as inherently lewd. and project this onto others.

>>304327
It's nearly impossible to render anything at 4k resolution at a decent framerate so it doesn't really matter. Though the real debate that was scrubbed from the internet and inter-company marketing is the argument that 4k displays are not actually 4k.

>>304318
Just in time for microLED to start becoming a reality, which doesn't have the downside of OLED's short lifespan. Theoretically atleast. I don't think they've been on the market long enough to prove this concept.
>>304330
I'm not going to game at 4K, I just want a nice main monitor, to game at 1080p.
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>>304318
>>>/b/ lolikike, before another hammer falls down on you.
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>>304327
4K 27" will give you 163 pixels per inch. Retards who use 32" are getting 137 PPI, which is only 15 more than a 1440p 24" despite requiring nearly fucking double the processing power. 

https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/technology/ppi-calculator.php
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>>304335
>4K 27"
Arigato.
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Any recommendations for headphones with a 90$ budget?
They should be durable, with a detachable cable and replaceable parts.
They should be closed back and not leak sound too much.
They should be comfortable enough.
I don't mind buying used ones as long as they are, as I said above, durable.
I'm also not much of a pedo"audiophile" so I don't need super fancy sound quality or whatever.
>>304338
Pick your poison.
https://www.rtings.com/headphones
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>>304339
Fucking hell, I just noticed you need to join, it was 10 free articles per day...
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>>304318
I wasn't sure (you) were a chomo but your reaction confirms it. I'm calling the lolice on your ass.
>>304340
Fucking hell, now there's no place on the planet for reliable TV and monitor reviews. Every other review site on the internet is either shill spam or useless trash. On the other hand if someone starts uploading tech reviews to someplace like yiffparty it's gonna be really fucking funny.
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>>304341
Well, got some good news, you can use the Internet Archive to look at the articles before they got "Sign Up" walled.
https://web.archive.org/web/20260214034633/https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sony/wh-1000xm6
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>>304330
>microLED
I don't see those going commercially viable until the 2030's, don't forget we technically had OLED in 2007, and it took a solid decade for them to be competitive outside of faggots with money to burn. If mLED first touched the markets in 2024, then logic follows that 2034 is the earliest reasonable adoption point. A decent OLED should last you until then if you don't go out of your way to fuck it up. mLED has the additional thing working against it that it's longevity might be significantly better (so corpos don't want to, because intended redundancy = more profits), but it's quality is also marginally worse (for now at least, but qualityfags aren't as keen to drop big buxxx on it), and compounded by it still having an achilles heel like all other panel typed (mLED fading).

>>304338
Was about to type out something longerform, but you're after headphones not IEM's. Not too clued in on recent models, but I'd vaguely point you towards some used Fostex.
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>>304338
Phillips shp9600s.
You are welcome
Yeah they are open back, if you want closed back go IEM not over ears. If you want isolation from world in ear superior.
Peak:Speakers
#2:Over ear open
#3:IEM
#4:Over ear closed
#5:regular plugs
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>>304333
I considered that for the same reason since 1440p monitors dont look good displaying 1080p. Find the biggest 4k monitor you can tolerate at monitor distance and set it to 4k and look how tiny all the text is. Everything in windows scales by like 200-400% in 4k by default. Everything is tiny.
Consider how any windowed games will do or in-browser games or flash games.
Also most 4k displays at 4k don't look as good as they should up close because most dont have the pixel density they claim which is a whole other topic.

>>304343
You're right. I was mistaken because I saw a miniled monitor for around $2000 and conflated the 2 and assumed microled recently hit the market while I was in slumber.
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>>304334
/b/ is more strict than /v/ when it comes to such topics

>>304341
ToT
>>304330
>It's nearly impossible to render anything at 4k resolution at a decent framerate
<what are emulators with sub-frame CRT beam shaders
<or Alien: Isolation
<or sourceports of decades old games from better times

t. RX 9060 XT

>>304347
miniLED is technically microLED but with bigger LEDs covering multiple pixels at once instead of one per-pixel or one per-subpixel, the latter two aren't viable to mass produce at scale outside of large video walls or sports stadium displays.
If you're into proper HDR then the only practical choice are fully emissive displays like OLED or modded CRTs that definitely do not exist.
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>>304363
Isnt miniled just an lcd panel with multiple backlights but microled is more similar to oled where each displayed pixel is its own source of light?
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>>304345
This.
>>304347
Why the hell is a miniled monitor going for 2k?
Do those things use ram now?
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>>304393
It was a very large/ultrawide monitor with alot of features.
>>304310
If she did no one would cry but crazy women.
I was considering buying a VR headset for my siblings, but I know fuck-all about them besides they likely plan to use it in tandem with a dedicated computer and platforms such as Steam. Family previously purchased an Oculus for another sibling years ago and it turned out to be a shitty standalone set and required some extra nigger-rigging to get working with computer games, but it must not have been good even then because I don't recall it receiving much use. Does anyone have any experience with or done any research on VR headsets?
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>>304727
The steam one seems promising.
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As the other Anon said, upcoming Steam one, rest are walled gardens which require severe nigger-rigging to get compatible (no matter the price), while the Steam one is open out of the box and the foveated rendering should rape your GPU less. Oculus was good as an upcomer to get people interested in the tech, but Faceberg snuffed it to chase the metaverse.
Seems Gabe wants to do a Deck pricing plan again and make it extremely competitive to bank on getting people into the ecoystem, but right now the RAM bullshit is clearly fucking them over to the point we haven't even got a price yet. Naturally the one hardware release I've been waiting on is the one that's been fucked the hardest by the RAM hikes, but what can I say, monkey paw every time.
As for a tl;dr on games research, there's a few decent standalone VR games if you DYOR but not enough if that's your only draw, but the real meat of it is the VR conversion mods (that there's a deceptive amount of now), especially for established engines - check your favorite games / intended backlog, good chance you'll find 1-2 if it's popular and/or recent. Sensor-wands are pretty overrated (don't ever forget to wear the wrist-straps), a conventional controller does enough of the legwork outside of shooting gameplay. Horror and Shooting games get a lot of the publicity, but driving games (especially the wipeout style ones) are top-tier too. Melee-combat ones have ways to go, it's hard to emulate the weight of a swing, and is just better to us a controller / button presses for now imo. Beatsaber is massively overrated and is the equivalent of Wii Sports - nice intro to the hardware, but you don't want to buy it just for that. If you're vaguely intrigued by the VRchat bullshit and it's derivatives, it's just nu-age second life; complete with the same normalfaggots, shitcord integration and nofun janny fiefdoms. All the anime girl models are transgender, the same way all furry models are furfags, no exceptions (you will almost certainly initially be deceived, but will quickly come to know the ticks of a female AI voice synth). AR browsing is cool, but it's vegemite love-it-or-hate-it; porn tierlist is 3D > JAV > Western (and not because of the content or preferences, but because of the use of the tech).
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>>304749
I appreciate the feedback. I may just wait and see if the next Valve set is any good then and hopefully someone else doesn't waste money buying them a thrifty Quest 3 in the meantime. After doing some of my own research, it's disheartening to see headsets as a product are basically still a shitty gimmick that'll probably give me buyer's remorse no matter what I buy. Hopefully, the Valve set will end up like you predict and won't be a massive gouge. Why kids find this shit so appealing is beyond me.
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>>304751
>Why kids find this shit so appealing is beyond me.
The cynic in me says it's low-effort stimmies, just like tiktok. But part of me also says kids are inevitably going to look past the technology's flaws because holy shit it's like I'm in a completely different place instead of bitching about walled gardens or how well the game actually uses VR input methods.
>bought 240hz monitor
>play old games or stuff that with low hardware requirements that runs fine at native 240hz
<60hz now looks like 30hz
But I thought the human eye couldn't see above 24 fps.
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The peripheral and outer focus of the eye runs on a biological 50hz which is what affects overall perception the most, but it's been proven that the inner focal point / direct vision varies with how much higher it tends (both as a result of biology / genetics and training) and can still be noticeable to a trained eye with good genetics.
That's why for most usecases and untrained normalfaggot eyes, 60fps is all you need and the rest is caused by framedrops / hitching (often caused by uncapping the framerate), but it's also not 100% applicable. Likewise, most people bitching about fps after learning this do so because they automatically assume they have the frame-by-frame perception of a competitive korean on xanax, when at best they're only barely above, and some times even less if they've burnt their retinas out staring at bright screens their entire life; which is why it's also easy to handwave such comments as a worker blaming his tools, because 60fps is basically all you need.

tl;dr it's probably just your game settings
>>304776
It's the same with audio quality, FLACS and good speakers are very noticeable just like frame-rates.
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>>304776
The faster the image is updated, the sooner your eye has a chance to see the new situation regardless of what fps your eye supports. You don't have to count all the frames, you want the most recent info.
There were studies such as this one
https://studylib.net/doc/8463873/fastdetect2014withfi..---mollylab?p=3
If the brain is able to process entire images you see for such as short time, it doesn't sound so weird that a higher refresh rate might bring some benefits when you are staring at a corner and waiting for a pixel to change colour (competitive FPS). Or it might make you feel different (randomize your refresh rate on startup, you will be able to tell).

tl;dr >>304781 is talking out of his ass.
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>>304797
It's very noticeable when playing racing games and moving the mouse cursor fast with way more afterimages compared to 60hz.
>>304783
Do I really want to know?
>>304820
I'm guessing the power cord is lifted to prevent noise vibrations against the floor and the mesh is for the same anti-vibrations. 
If I am right, dunno how that would effect the power, but maybe it does. 
Alternative guess:there is a power hz stabilizer like most UPS do to give clean power.
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>>304823
Audiophiles. This is all you need to know.
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No they don't.
Double / triple the filesize and decreased compatibility is not worth it in the slightest. Unless you're a professional editor dealing with raw files in production for a major production that's going to get compressed down and down as it's passed along (and aren't the one paying for storage), ~150kbps mp3 is more than enough for everything to be indistinguishable to perfect for personal use, my standard baseline is ~192kbps mp3 for some extra wiggle room since I occasionally do some editing. I'd say I have pretty sharp ears and can start to hear slight quality decay from sub-170kbps onwards without being told what I'm listening to, but I've known normalfags with dogshit audiocrust in the 70-90kbps cranked up to maximum volume and call it HD audio / unable to tell the difference.

t. deals with a lot of audio day-to-day

>>304820
As the other Anons said, but also it's like trying to run 240fps on a 120hz screen; the vibration smoothing is made redundant by the bottleneck at the connectors. Basically, Emperor's New Clothes, people will pay exorbitant amounts to feel superior, like they can see / hear / feel a difference, even if a basic assessment for anyone to see can see it's plain bullshit.
Money is not a path towards quality (or happiness), just a path away from the inverse.
>>304838
I downloaded the FLAC vs the lower kbps and FLAC sounds way better.
lower res works but it's not as good.
You either don't have good ears or are retarded and fell for the "you can't tell the difference goy!" meme
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Also muh filesize when we have TB storage is funny. compatibility is also a joke complaint.
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>Double / triple the filesize
Not a problem unless you are a poorfag.
t. seeding all 4 TB of the Touhou Lossless Music Collection
>compatibility
If your system/device can't play FLAC, it is shit and you deserve better than using shit.
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I found it funny when retards bring up FLAC file format as some kind of WOWZIES SO GOOD, while in reality it is mostly sterile sounding trash, if You want best sound it should be PCM, DSD, DXD, WAV, than You could talk about being a little nigger that cannot afford storage and goes for FLACshit etc. even tho, OPUS will likely sound just like Your FLACshit because they are basically same thing, You either care about quality of a file or You do not & I personally like DSD cause mastering is just better for it and it sounds warm, I care not for what is technically right cause I am neither inbred audiophile mongrel nor am I a nigger that cannot afford to store fucking audio file yet gloats about whatever kbps is not good enough
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>>304838
>normalfags
There's your problem. Normalfags will hear apologist bullshit like "the human eye can't see more than 24fps" and believe it.
If you're techy enough to know what FLAC is, you probably have enough storage that even 3x isn't a big deal, so why not have the freedom to edit or downconvert as needed? On the other hand I do agree that some things (namely bitdepth and sample rate) are strictly for audiophools unless you're in production or sampling flux transitions on magnetic media or some shit.
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>>304841
Just searching mp3 on my main drives gives ~60,000 hits between the two, totalling to over 200GB - before FLAC, before ogg, before opus, before other proprietary formats (.wem etc). Before the rest of my fucking files.
Before my work computer (which has soundbanks) and before my backup (which needs to duplicate that number). I'd spitball that I easily have over 5TB in audio, probably closer to 10TB. Before the shared banks. Before the rest of my shit (videos, games, etc).
Before my work projects. While you're bitching about TB filesizes, while I'm conscientious of KB increases, which quickly go exponential if you're a lazy nigger fuck who saves everything raw lossless.
We do have TB of space these days, but unless you haven't noticed, storage is going the fuck up; last I went in I was paying upwards of $30/TB and am at 42TB (money I'd rather save by just not fucking around with bloated filesizes). Does anyone give a fuck that I've got over a stack of storage? No. Nobody gives a fuck. It's a work expense. Same as my car, or my clothes, or fucking everything else. And I'm not forking over a few $100 every year just to store dead niggers air, even before needing to get hardware with more slots / a rack to support the storage (probably will in the future, but not today).
You know what also doesn't have TB of space? Portable devices. USB's, Phones, Players etc. Of the 128GB on my phone (which I can't just "buy more of"), half of it is just in audio files. If I was running FLAC, I wouldn't have any space at all.

There's no bragging rights to having a ton of wasted space on lossless crap. Which is why I didn't bother mentioning it past "deals with a lot of audio day-to-day", until you audiophile niggers showed up like you're an authority. You want to make a case for more efficient lossless file solutions, be my guest, there's more than enough examples (all of them have worse compatibility btw), but you are wearing no clothes like the naked retard Emperor you think you're not. You can even get into the technicalities of lossless audio - but that's not my point. My point is diminishing returns; which falls off a cliff ~170kbps and is, in my experience upper-limit indistinguishable at ~250kbps (aka 1/3rd off of the filesize). Something you self-masturbating retards clearly don't get, because you want bragging rights for owning a fucking audio file. Wowie, you're so impressive Anon - you DOWNLOADED A FILE?!?! You have A FILE STORED?!?! Can someone get this niggers autograph already?
Compare this Mozart with the last one. Sure - one has more detail and if you blow it up you can see more. But for it's intended use as a reaction image, which one fulfils the purpose more efficiently? 21.6MB or 14.7KB? And is the larger one actually showing any additional information, or is it just pointless noise that only exists to flesh out the filesize? Can you tell the difference..... does anyone give a fuck you can tell the difference? Is the "difference" you can tell actually any different? Would you be able to tell the difference from a glance, without being prompted if you could tell the difference? Is a 100b/s chiptune file really worse than a 320kb/s chiptune file? That's my point. All of it. Because I deal with this shit on the reg, and unlike you, I don't brag about it, because it's an annoyance, not a point of personal pride. A $7,000 hammer still hits nails the same way a $25 hammer does. FLAC is past functional diminishing returns.
Kill yourself. Ideally to the tune of Mozart (I'd recommend Lacrimosa, since you might struggle telling the difference between his other stuff).

>compatibility
t. somebody who doesn't have to fuck with ancient proprietary bullshit software or deal with metadata regularly. If there's one ultra-benefit to mp3, you just know it always fucking works as much as .wav.

>recommending others to not waste money on dumb shit that serves no functional purpose is actually the goyim take
Sure it is kike. I'm sure spending more money makes you more experienced and more skilled than me (ignore that I'm the one being hired and paid), magic fucking money, just waste as much as you can. Maybe another $300,000 speaker like >>304830 and you'll be able to hear the silence of the fucks I give about how much you've spent.
<we should consume more shit for no reason and fill it up with pointless data to prove to the poorfags we're not goycattle
Moo for me bitch.


Add you audiophile niggers to vegans and cyclists for the ongoing "most obnoxious faggots alive". Stating the obvious, but who am I kidding, it's not like you ever learn dealing with so fucking many of you constantly. Buy another audioslug so I can step on it while you're not looking, and you still can't notice a difference (unless prompted) (by me).
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>>304844
Is this bait?

>>304838
>~150kbps mp3 is more than enough for everything to be indistinguishable to perfect for personal use, my standard baseline is ~192kbps mp3
>my standard baseline is ~192kbps mp3
>~192kbps mp3
>mp3
>not AAC
>not Opus at 96kb
Ok, now THIS is bait.

>>304848
Bait-kun, you could've at least used images at the same size preferably in lossy and lossless .webp to demonstrate your point rather than sounding like bait.
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>>304849 no it is called not being a brown fucking nigger and caring about fucking file size, I cannot even comprehend being so brown that I would rather save jpg instead of png, yes, YOU ARE THAT BROWN
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>>304850
>only browns can disagree with me
have you finished learning the colors in pre school yet, timmy?
>>304844
flac and opus are both good, but opus isnt compatible with file images which can be convenient.
opus also seems to be alittle less common for portable devices. The mp3 player i use in my car can play both flac and opus, but when an opus file plays there is a delay before the song starts vs the flac which starts playing immediately.
flac is just a way to have wav quality without wav storage. opus similarly preserves the original wav data but cuts out frequency data that isnt present.

>>304838
I have a song on my mp3 player in my car twice from the same source. one of them is a proper flac, the other is a 320kbps mp3.  I can tell when it's the 320kbps.
If you can't tell the difference between a flac and a 150kbps mp3 you might just have bad ears or some tinnitus. Or more likely your sound system is crappy or full of feedback.
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I feel like the average IQ of the thread has taken a nosedive.
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mp3 is inferior to Vorbis in every metric. 320kb/s Vorbis is lossless to human ears, it just cuts off inaudible frequencies. Vorbis is easier to decode than the complex method mp3 uses. mp3 heavily distorts frequencies even at the highest bitrates.

mp3 is specifically for when we mostly used dial up, but we were starting to move beyond 486 CPUs. It is extremely niche, and became obsolete almost immediately.
Even mp2 is superior to mp3 in quality and it is easier to decode.
Are SSDs so common now that nobody is bringing up rotational volodensity?
>>304864
>opus isnt compatible with file images
That's because Opus is a codec, not a container.
>>304865
It's really not that hard.
>FLAC if you feel like it and have the space to spare (or expect to 
>MP3 V0 if you don't
>opus for webbums, just tune the bitrate until it stops sounding crunchy
>Anything more than 16-bit/48khz is for audiophools and a waste of space
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>>304887
Here's the entire Touhou discography if you don't want to download it.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=NpPtdvrFUgA&list=PLA-GM1QDNeTj9LKjaBnFFtHz7XwdpH2t9
>>304887
>he doesn't have all 35TB of myrient's PS3 archive
>>304886
Should be
>FLAC if you have the space and/or autism
>Opus 96kb if you haven't
>Opus 160kb if you have autism but no space
>AAC at 192kbps for HEVC annie may encodes, lower it for webring mp4s but be careful as AAC isn't as giganigga efficient as Opus
>>304893
*Should be >>304893 if you have autism
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>>304893
My car stereo doesn't read Opus. Most music players don't read Opus, because Opus didn't exist when they were built. They do read MP3.
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>>304893
>giganigga
I must share this ghastly picture I got from G-d knows where, because I had personally nicknamed it "giganiga".
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>>301853 (OP) 
>MicroLED has near-comparable quality to OLED, no burn-in and lasts much longer until it dims with time, but is still new to the market
To be clear: There are no mass market µLED devices, nor are there any credible rumors of such a device in the near future from any manufacturer.
>>304364
>Isnt miniled just an lcd panel with multiple backlights
Yes, the less misleading term is FALD (full-array local dimming). It's just another piece of euphemistic false advertising, like "LED TV" or "QD/quantum-dot" which means "not actually that technology, just LCD again with incremental tweaks".

>>304343 
>we technically had OLED in 2007
That was just the first consumer product. I remember the first "1 year from mass production, honest!" publicly demonstrated prototypes of what were then called LEP (light-emitting polymer) screens a decade earlier, and their main advantage over LCD was supposed to be price, because they were printed on paper by an inkjet without a cleanroom!
>If mLED first touched the markets in 2024, then logic follows that 2034 is the earliest reasonable adoption point
The problem with µLED isn't the finished products themselves (which have been built since the first blue LEDs in the 90s), like with OLED, but manufacturing. µLED is currently made by fabricating RGB wafers, dicing them into subpixels, and pick-n-place-ing EACH DIE spaced apart atop its heatsink pad to make a screen with millions of pixels. That is commercially nonviable, µLED is never ever happening until they decide on some way to use undiced wafers or some other monolithic substrate like LCD/OLED/PDP/e-ink/etc. do.
>OLED
>longevity
>mLED fading
There's actually an absolute fix for this: Wear leveling. It's ubiquitous in other products like flash memory, but I'm aware of only some LG OLEDs that implement it, and even then compensation is not as continuously realtime as it could be.

>>304781
I realize that is probably bait, but I've seen some of it pop up elsewhere.
>the peripheral and outer focus [...] affects overall perception the most, but [...] the inner focal point [...] vision varies with how much higher it tends
Except that. You've got it exactly backward, peripheral vision has BETTER motion sensitivity, whereas central vision has WORSE motion sensitivity. This is why screens smaller in FoV like (small distant) TVs have lower demands on acceptable motion and flicker than those taking up more FoV like (large close) PC monitors. Peripheral vision also has better light sensitivity and nightvision, but worse color sensitivity and of course spatial resolution.
>biological 50hz
That isn't motion perception, that's the approximate (really closer to 40Hz, but for PAL TV 50 divided more evenly into yuropoor mains AC) floor of flicker fusion at brightness ("SDR" 100 nits white) acceptable for typical indoor ambient illumination, below which sustained flicker filling much FoV becomes unbearable. Note that flicker above this rate, while perceptually continuous, can still be subconsciously irritating into the low kHz range. Flicker perception (is this a flashing light or a continuous light?) and motion perception (how quickly and where is this object moving through space?) are correlated but distinct. Also closely related, but still distinct, is illusion of motion (is this the same object moving or multiple objects changing?), which has a much lower floor of ~12FPS, the framerate of typically "on the twos" cartoons and silent movies before optical soundtracks forced talkies to 24FPS.)
>60fps is all you need
Motion perception gains greater accuracy into the hundreds of FPS, and that's before factoring in artifacts like sample-and-hold motion blur that reach into 1kHz:
https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-future-1000hz-displays-with-blurfree-sample-and-hold/
>framedrops / hitching
Dynamic sync makes that mostly a nonissue, which any modern display has. Even moreso framegen if you don't find the artifacts too distasteful.
>pic
Chad would crank his e-waste CRT up to 160Hz and run sub-minimum settings modded potatovision to get max FPS because game>grafix also instead of ASSFAGGOTS he would play a genre with actual depth

>>304797 
Yeah, shorter latancy is also a benefit of higher FPS.
>>304887
To be fair, the Touhou Lossless Music Collection is pretty much the entire known doujin music scene. The torrent with only ZUN's works is 35 GB.
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>>304937
The part that makes it LOLworthy is it's "lossless" renders of MIDI

It's the audio equivalent of saving a screenshot from a Youtube video as PNG
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>>304938
Or more like taking a picture of a film camera photo with a high quality digital camera.
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>>304947
That would be if the instruments were analog
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>>304948
Yeah an analog film camera photo.
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>>304955
Analog photos (or music) can't be perfectly reproduced, unlike h.265 frames (or MIDI files and patchsets).
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Opinions on selling some spare RAM before the pop? Recently did a build last year, and the RAM in my old computer is now sitting at $280 (compared to $80 when I bought it / $140 after the first hike). I'm not struggling for money, but $280 is a cool chunk of change, you know?

The play here would just be to sell the old RAM, then buy a new set later on if I need the old PC for any reason, once the bubble pops. Or are we expecting total shortages after the bubble pops, not just price fluctuations that would stop me from doing that?
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>>305027
The jews will keep acting retarded for longer than you can keep your computer running. Also no actual people are paying those prices it's all done in the hope Sam kikemann starts combing ebay as part of his exit strategy. I would keep the RAM, or if you sell it at least use the money to buy shiny rocks for when the bubble does pop.
>>305027
The market is unpredictable right now. China could bridge the gap and flood the market with consumer RAM sticks, but western countries could also be dicks and ban the sale. The US FCC just banned the sale of any new model router not completely made in the US, so it continues to target China.
The other side of it is even if the market popped, that would be billions of dollars lost and years to retool. Micron completely exited the market and other companies that didn't leave the consumer market, like Samsung, have kept consumer production flat. Given that it looks like the entire US stock market relies on AI shittery, the crash would just remove companies from existence.
So you can choose to sell, but mind you there is no guarantee the bubble pops or relief is coming.
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Started my fanless build today. Last time i built a pc i didnt use any tutorials and fucked up multiple parts. Now all is well
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>>305095
I expect many photos of your progress and fuck ups.
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>>305095
> fanless build
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>>305095
this is so dum
any recommended mice that have multiple buttons? around 10 might be nice, just enough to be able to remap controls for simple turn-based rpgs to play one-handed.
because my cat's constantly lying in my other arm, the fuck did you think i want it for
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>>305107
Corsair DARKSTAR RGB? It has optical buttons, I think.
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>>305108
oh yeah that looks good, thanks
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>>305095
I hope you remembered the plans, because I sure as hell don't.
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>>305107
I'm a diehard of these, but I know it's an unhealthy relationship
>so many buttons, and in a no-fucking-around layout
>sidebuttons are softer rather than clickier, which I usually hate, but works better (not mushy, just softer)
>5 profiles for more buttons (Image Editing, Video Editing, Subtitling, then two vidya profiles personally), can map more and swap out
>the plastic under the thumb gives leverage + a place to rest, so you can have it primed for the buttons at all times, and the slight ridge on the right side gives leverage for your pinkie (so you can slightly pinch-grip it), which others lack (and you notice it)
>decent enough internal custom weight options (on top of the usual lighting)
<companion software is some of the chinkiest, jankiest chink jankware I've seen
<sensitivity options are way too extreme, and fine-tuning in the usable range is a bitch
<I know a hair got into the sensor at some point and while I managed to get it free by shaking it / sticking a vaccuum as close as I could, it's going to be a fuck to pop open with a hairdryer and clean because the screws are under the contact pads (but it needs doing)
<scroll wheel and other areas pick up light gunk (scroll wheel is a softer material, and the buttons all have corners) (not unbearably like some disgusting shit I've seen, but enough that you notice it after a few months with 24/7 use if you don't keep it clean)
<pretty shit sensitivity, so fuck if you think this is going to be used for precision shooters, but point&click is just fine (I image edit with it)
>but seriously man, so many buttons (you just get what you're after with none of the bullshit of the 2lee74u "competition")
I wish it had a competitor, but last I checked ~2 years back (?), it still stands alone as far as I'm aware.
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>>305117
Logitech g600.
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>>305125
>has middle mouse that clicks in middle, left and right
>memory stored on mouse
>software is decent enough
<no ridge can cause button press if bumps into keyboard (Never tried with ridge) 
<There is apparently different versions with the newer one not being as good (can't remember details, have good version.)
<expensive (had same one for over 3 years now replacing skates.)
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>>305126
<no ridge can cause button press if bumps into keyboard
Is this really much of an issue? If you've got the money to buy expensive electronics equipment you must have the money to have a large enough desk or rather a desk drawer.
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>>305097
I still havent turned it on.
>>305098
Because managing fan curves makes me irrationally mad while fan noise makes me mad aswell.
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>>305152
What are the specs nofansfag?
Also, neat.
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>>305129
Was 30$ when I bought it.
Also have a massive work bench from the side of the road, tends to happen from when I'm leaning back with bad posture. 
(no it's not that much an issue, generally like the mouse, but not much mouse experience other than fuck glorious D series since the one I had had sensor issues, got g600 for 3d and just use it for everything now.
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>>305117
Forgot to mention
<plastic around the palm is wearing down, (but that'd be the case with all mice)

>>305125
>>305126
Nah, plus the mouse wheel is fully soft-material. The Impact might have soft material in the middle, but it's hard plastic on the sides, which helps with sideward leverage as I mention below. Also, extra button on the top-left makes up for the mouse wheel buttons, and is something you'd use more, since it's a combo-button and a fast-click for the rest of the mouse.

>>305129
Less Anon's point, more that side-button mouses / mice (?) that are in the style of a normal mouse are just plain bad, and obviously have very little R&D / thought put into them. Since you use the side-buttons, you need leverage for them to account for sidewards force presses (rather than just sidewards gliding); so instead of just being top->down design that benefits a conventional mouse, they need to be accounted for said sideward force, or they either roll or give themselves to being used like TV remotes. I've always found that side-button mice without that design facet end up functioning more like remotes.with a mouse on the side, than a mouse with buttons on the side at times. That, and as I said, by having a notable ridge on the left, it gives your thumb a place to rest, instead of it dragging along the mousepad when you don't give a fuck (significantly more of a problem then violently bashing the buttons hard enough to cause mispresses.
Picrel probably shows it easier.
Again, it's not like I've not researched the market before, even if it's chinky and edgy, it's just the most intuitive and well designed.
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>>305157
amd 7600,noctua nh-p1,nvidia 3050 kalmx,seasonic tx-700 fanless, asrock b650 pg lightning,samsung 9100 pro,lian li o11d mini v2,corsair vengeance 32gb cl30 6000mhz
I got almost every part on different sales throughout last year. If i dislike this fanless build i also have the choice of removing the noctua cpu cooler and the kalmx gpu and switching to something high end and putting in some fans.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QhKbXf
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>>305180
Nice, but I am interested in how you plan on doing heat management for games.
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>>305184
I just picked a cpu and case that had good compatibility on the noctua site. It should work out of the box
Should I get a Saturn controller for 2D games and something else for 3D games? If so, what's the best options for both?
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>>305200
>a Saturn controller
And how do you intend to connect that to a computer? Aren't you picking up latency on a USB port adapter?
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Anon probably means a Saturn-style USB gamepad.
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>>305203
He's probably referring most specifically to its signature microswitch-based D-pad, distinct from the mushy rubber dome D-pads on most controllers. The zenith of digital inputs, arguably though, isn't Saturn Model 2 controller clones, but NeoGeo CD controller clones. Instead of a D-pad, there's a thumbstick that operates as essentially a very stubby arcade-style digital joystick, centered with short-throw springs to actuate microswitches.
Should i install a linux distro or windows 10? I have a nvidia gpu
>>305225
Why the fuck are you even contemplating one or the other?
(some linux and wine etc blablabla)
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>>305225
Pragmatically, do you actually give a fuck about your OS or not. Contrary to common talking points from both sides, both answers are equally valid, it just boils down to just werkz compatibility vs customisation. Both need setup time these days anyways, Windows to debloat it, Linux to learn it from scratch.
>>305225
Linux.
>>305225
>nvidia
Windows. Use something that just works anyway.
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>>305231
That might be an outdated stance now. Nvidia has official linux drivers, nvidia-open. I'm using that on Artix with no issues whatsoever. It just werks now.
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>>305234
From what i can see from every benchmark is that windows 10 beats linux every time by a significant margin in fps
>>305225
If you're going to install Linux, install a systemd-less distro, because they're introducing ((( age verification ))) to systemd, so at that point it's not much less pozzed than Windows.
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Fuck it im installing Artix. I want to lose my linux virginity.
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>>305238
>equating what operating system you use to your sexuality
I can tell you'll fit right in with they/their community.
>>305238
Artix is probably the best/least worst distro since they offer a community edition bundled with a lot of secondary programs that have cool features and stuff. I'd have stuck with Artix myself if it weren't for esoteric hardware incompatibility, and I documented my experience in >>>/tech/16339

Just be willing to test and debug everything, and be ready to use chatGPT in addition to the usual forum browsing.
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>>305241
I've just fucking had it with windows. Even fucking thumbnails havent worked for me on windows even though i've gone through multiple reinstalls. I've just fucking had it
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>>305234
New Rowhammer attacks give complete control of machines running Nvidia GPUs
https://web.archive.org/web/20260402171034/https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/04/new-rowhammer-attacks-give-complete-control-of-machines-running-nvidia-gpus/
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>>305246
Quick reminder in the more than a decade of Rowhammer's public documentation, against the backdrop of security circus news articles about the tug of war between new research and various mitigations implemented, there are to date exactly 0 (ZERO) known instances of its ever having been used in any attack.
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>>305320
>I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys
This would hit harder if Linux and other operating systems weren't catching those monkeys' jizz and sifting through it for particularly tasty chunks.
>>305320
>there are to date exactly 0 (ZERO) known instances of its ever having been used in any attack
Glowniggers erase the evidence after they've done their damage.
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>>305243
Nevermind. Linux fucking sucks ass. First time trying artix i had a problem with my keys/certificates. Nothing i did could fix this and i even did every wiki fix and looked at other solutions on the net. So i reinstalled Artix on a earlier release but then i realized i had to fucking research how to download my gpu drivers and even somethibg as simple as downloading steam required fucking troubleshooting. I just gabe up. What is the fucking point if i cant even download steam easily? Then i went to windows 10 and encountered a black screen after updating everything so i had to troubleshoot that too. Then after a long fucking time i finally foubd the solution and that was to simply uninstall the latest feature update and that fixed it. -1 day just to install a operating system. 
One positive thing is that my pc is completely quiet. No coil whine or fan noisr, just pure total silence
>>305376
Ever tried to RTFM, you dumb steamfaggot? Boohoo, reading is hard. :( Install Gentoo.
Biting the bait, biting the bait...
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>>305376
>Then i went to windows 10 and encountered a black screen after updating everything so i had to troubleshoot that too.
So, they both suck then?
>>305378
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>>305376
>that taskbar
This is some good bait
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>>305237
Baitposting aside, if you're a Windows baby installing your first Linux, do not start with a maymay distro. Just use something pedestrian like Mint. Even if you just want to learn the ropes, it's not hard to distro hop after that.
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>>305376
Expected outcome, Linuxfags will constantly screech and remind you that they need 109 operating systems. But they'll never tell you why. Both sides have significant flaws, to ignore either one of them is just cult shit.

>uninstall the latest feature update and that fixed it
If you're going down the Windows route (and I say this as someone in your corner), if you didn't already do it, re-do it with Win 10 IoT LTSC 21H2 / Internet of Things Long Term Service Channel until-2032 as a starting point. You'll still retain full functionality, it's designed to be a stripped down but still fully functional version with a shitton less corpo jeetware (eg, no Candy Crush pre-install hogging resources in the background) for use in shit like oil rigs that people don't want to have to interfere with regularly, nor have it phoning home for no reason with limited computing resources. That'll get you most of the optimization / a ton of performance alone, and is worth going over again.
From there you can choose to squeeze the last chunk of optimization and debloat the shit out of it (Windows10Debloater-master, OOSU10, Privzilla, Privacysexy) and replace Windows Firewall with something significantly lighterweight to claw back more resources / less power drain / less telemetry. You'll still occasionally run into the consequences of your actions for debloating (eg fucking your CODECs if you debloated-then-installed in the wrong order, since microjeets made some of them reliant on the Microsoft App Store), but it's significantly less of a headache, the fix is usually just "revert XYZ", and the results are worth it.
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>>305392
Sounds like a lot of effort just to play Fortnite.
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>>305412
Up until Steam bothered to make proton not shit in the last several years, it was way worse for trying to run any game period on Linux.
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>try to run game on wine
>attempts to open in fullscreen for no reason, somehow manages to turn off one of my monitors in the process
>try for 20 minutes fucking with config to get it to function
>nothing
>try it in lutris with like 5 different settings and wine versions
>nothing
>move it over to winboat and try to run it
>nothing
>try it in bottles out of desperation
>works perfectly
>mfw
Reminds me that I have to set up a build to try and see if Linux also has the dreaded loadscreen issues in EDF4.1/5
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>>305418
Some times I have similar issues, mainly with older games and most of the time it helps just to check "Emulate a virtual desktop" and set it to the same resolution as an actual desktop in winecfg
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>>305439
That never fuckin works for me it just opens a virtual desktop and then does the exact same thing.
>>305418
Damn, maybe I try using bottles.
>>305418
Does your distro provide Gamescope? I heard it solves this kind of problem even better than Wine's virtual desktop feature.

>>305439
NTA but virtual desktop is a godsend, especially as my monitor doesn't support lower resolutions like 640x480 which some games need. Strangely I've seen two games that somehow bypass virtual desktop and take over my entire screen, no idea how they did that.
are the new ryzen igpus really as good as a 1080?
tell me ram prices will drop and I can get a minipc that will run goddamn everything for cheap
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>>305502
>are the new ryzen igpus really as good as a 1080?
Nah, 1060 at most and that's generous, only the bigass strix halo APU is in that realm (closer to the 1080ti even) but that's only in completely overpriced hardware.
>>305225
Botnet 10 is much worse. But the best way to test Linux is to dual boot Linux Mint and Windows 10. You can just delete the Linux partition, if (for some reason) you don't like Mint. Proton should just work.

>>305376
>First time trying artix i had a problem with my keys/certificates.
Skill issue. You didn't sync your clock with NTP. Artix and related distros expect you to choose and install almost all software packages yourself. You really should install Linux Mint.

>>305418
Bottles and Lutris are the way to go.
>>305418
I like bottles.  I've heard people bitch that it's "heavy" and the devs are fags but it works really well and I never have issues with it.
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Discrete GPU Warranty Expenses: From 2024 to 2025, Nvidia saw its warranty claims paid increase by 1000%, its accruals increase by 173%, and its reserve balance increase by 218%. AMD's claims paid increased by 116%, its accruals increased by 68%, and its reserves increased by 76%.
https://archive.ph/20260416040551/https://www.warrantyweek.com/archive/ww20260409.html
>The biggest story from last week's newsletter "Top 100 Warranty Providers of 2025" was the steep and rapid rise in GPU manufacturer Nvidia's warranty expenses. From 2024 to 2025, Nvidia's warranty claims and accrual rates both more than doubled, as did the end-balance of its warranty reserve fund.
>Nvidia's close competitor Advanced Micro Devices, or AMD, also saw significant increases in warranty metrics, with its claims rate and warranty reserve end-balance both increasing by two-thirds.
>These increases in warranty expenses from the two largest global discrete GPU manufacturers were notable enough to prompt us to take a closer look at the industry this week. What we found is that warranty claims, accruals, and reserves increased by an order of magnitude from 2024 to 2025.
>To create this newsletter, we perused the annual reports and quarterly financial statements of Nvidia Corp. and Advanced Micro Devices Inc., and gathered three key warranty metrics: the amount of claims paid, the amount of accruals made, and the end-balance of the warranty reserve fund.
In addition, we gathered data on each manufacturer's product sales revenue, and used these to calculate two additional warranty expense rates: claims as a percentage of revenue (the claims rate), and accruals as a percentage of revenue (the accrual rate).
>Every electronic with a screen comes with a built-in central processing unit, or CPU. Typically, CPUs have integrated graphics processing units, or GPUs as part of the larger chip. However, for more complex applications, discrete GPUs, external and separate from the CPU, are preferable.
>Discrete GPUs are a specialized type of semiconductor chip featuring many cores, designed to rapidly perform complex calculations and parallel processing, making them ideal for image and video generation. Primary uses of discrete GPUs include artificial intelligence, video gaming, and cryptocurrency mining.
>It's important to note that cryptocurrency mining is considered commercial use, and voids the product warranty for Nvidia and AMD discrete GPUs. However, running AI programs is typically considered normal use, depending on the intensity of the AI workload for the GPU. Furthermore, modifying the cards, including custom cooling apparatuses that are popular with video gamers.
>Intel has attempted to join the discrete GPU market, but continues to primarily deal in CPUs with integrated GPUs. Furthermore, Intel does not publish its warranty expenses in its financial reports, despite being publicly traded.
>Other major international players in the discrete GPU industry are the "add-in-card (AIC) partners," which purchase GPU chips from Nvidia or AMD, and design their own graphics cards, boards, and cooling systems. Nvidia's and AMD's AIC partners include ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, and PowerColor, based in Taiwan; Sapphire and Zotac, based in China; and PNY, based in the United States.
>AIC partners offer their own limited warranties, which also cover the integrated chip from Nvidia or AMD. Nvidia and AMD limited warranties cover discrete GPUs used by the end-user, not chips included in larger graphics cards sold by other manufacturers.
>In recent months, the prices of discrete GPUs have increased across the market, due to the current random access memory (RAM) shortage. The AI boom has prompted an unprecedented level of sales of chips related to computer memory, including GPUs. The price of RAM quadrupled from mid-2025 to early 2026. This shortage is already driving up prices for electronics using memory chips and integrated GPUs, including computers and game consoles, and is expected to affect mobile phones, smart appliances, medical equipment, and even entertainment systems in vehicles.
>We expect that the RAM shortage will also continue to drive up the prices of discrete GPU repairs. As we will see in Figures 1, 3, and 5, the total warranty costs of the top discrete GPU manufacturers increased significantly from 2024 to 2025. At the same time, as we will see in Figures 2 and 4, warranty claims and accruals in proportion to sales revenue, as a percentage, also significantly increased over the same period.
>Increased GPU sales explain some of the increases in warranty expenses we will see in the following charts. In addition, the higher warranty expense rates show that the average repair also costs more, due to tariffs and the RAM shortage.
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>>306236
>whining about Alex Pretti
Man Gamersnexus turned into real fags as of late
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>>306251
Partisansperging (even worse, buying the AIsperg excuse on HW price gouging) on a review channel is gay, but not as gay as AMD playing favorites against one of the few channels still doing comprehensive technically competent benchmarking.

TBH I'm still with TotalAssCancer's opinion that opiniontubers as a whole should refuse on principle to accept any direct cooperation of any kind with sources, just to ensure nothing resembling journalism ever comes crawls back from its grave.
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Any recommended routers for vidya that lets me install openwrt?
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>>306915
You don't need any purpose built hardware to make a router:
https://unixdigest.com/openbsd-router-guide/
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Lisuan confirms 7G100 preorder launch on May 20, China’s DX12 gaming GPU with support for 100+ games
https://archive.ph/20260519060923/https://videocardz.com/newz/lisuan-confirms-7g100-preorder-launch-on-may-20-chinas-dx12-gaming-gpu-with-support-for-100-games
>Lisuan Technology has confirmed the May 20 retail launch window for its LX 7G100 graphics card. The card will be sold through the company’s JD.com self-operated store, with reservations opening at 20:00 local time.
>The LX 7G100 has 12GB of GDDR6 memory, four DisplayPort 1.4a outputs, and support for 8K60 HDR output with DSC. More importantly, it’s confirmed to support DirectX 12, Vulkan 1.3, OpenGL 4.6, and OpenCL 3.0 support.
>Chinese gaming GPUs have usually been limited more by software and drivers than raw hardware. DX12 support and Windows driver certification give Lisuan a stronger starting point than earlier domestic gaming GPU attempts. As we reported earlier, the 7G100 already passed WHQL certification ahead of the May 20 launch. 
>Lisuan previously claimed RTX 4060-class performance for the 7G100 series, but those numbers should be treated as synthetic or best-case comparisons for now. Real gaming performance will depend on drivers, game support, shader compiler behavior, and API overhead. Gaming results may land below RTX 4060 until the software stack matures.
>The company previously said the consumer cards support more than 100 games, including Black Myth: Wukong, Cyberpunk 2077, Red Dead Redemption 2, Elden Ring, DOTA2, and Genshin Impact. 
>Lisuan has not confirmed the final retail price yet.
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>>306915
If you want a standard router then just browse the openwrt wiki and see what devices you can get that meet your needs. https://openwrt.org/supported_devices
Or you can go full autismo and get a dedicated firewall and install pfsense.
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I wanna cum inside Ram while she scolds me for having no pull out game.
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>>307980
Any news on this?
>>307980
>no news on Linux drivers
That's a bit short-sighted. Chinese hardware manufacturers often make a point of submitting patches for Linux and other core open source software, whereas these guys will be utterly screwed if shit goes sideways with either Microsoft or the west.
>>309946
I'm gonna fill all the ram slots and make you watch
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>>310500
While it obviously has biased intentions, it seems kinda fucking autistic to not see that the money being spent on AI (read: LLM's) isn't for profit. YouTube has not at any point in history ever been profitable; yet Jewgle still spends billions on it, because it's not about money, it's about control.
The AI shit is the same. It's not supposed to have a turnover. It's supposed to have an open, instant-access repository of everyone's information, with instant analytics and predictive behavioral models, with a few generative bells and whistles on top. For control.

The fact we still have mouthbreathers trying to play the profitability card is beyond me; we're 9 months into a 2 more weeks bro bubble. Do we really need the same rehashed points, and so much wasted time and effort into making those points? Half of it's just an R&D writeoff anyways.
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>want a 9800X3D
>ram too expensive rn
Gay, time to look for a 14900kike under $300 then. I mostly emulate shit anyway.
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>>310505
>mfw waiting for the 10000 amd cpu
>maybe this year or the next
I just hope the gayI bubble burst or something.
>>310502
I think it will burst and only a few ((( services ))) will survive to monitor the goyim.
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>>310502
>>310514
The IPOs for every front company happening within a few weeks of each other means the end is in sight IMO. It's not a two more weeks bro situation but we're entering the stage of the grift where the jews start offloading their empty bags onto retirement plans and index funds before triggering a collapse.
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>>310500
>>310502
>>310514
According to my own retarded chatbot TSMC has gone all in on jewvidia to the point the bubble popping right now would result in swathes of specialized AI accelerator/HBM fabs going unused with no change in physical supply of consumer-grade silicon for several years, barring unexpected happenings.
The kikes' lack of foreskinsight beyond a 16 week window never ceases to disappoint, especially when AI will surely fix the impending question of how to control the normalfags with digital niggerware when the local silicon required is either not present or unaffordable for the typical soyperson (thanks to growing wealth disparity favoring the Muskish ccommunity exclusively) while cloud-based AI is retardedly expensive on top of being subject to random US gubbermint takedowns for being too good for the goyim so it has to be made more retarded which certainly isn't resulting in any Chinamen AI developers laughing their asses off.
Doesn't help that the LLMs as the current magick bullet are near certain to be a dead end in the race to muh AGI, and while alternatives are actively being developed and researched none of the "experts" in the MSM or their gAI shareholder benefactors bother to mention them (probably because they only get a few hundred million to a few billion in investment compared to the trillions shoved into LLM development), and that's not even mentioning the rapidly escalating capability of local-scale open weight models that can be finetuned at home if you're Pewdiepie.
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>>310517
This x 1000
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>>310500
From >>>/tech/17675 repasta of mine
It's just the RAM cartel up to their same tricks they've been doing periodically clear past the '90s, but camouflaged behind paper thin SJW AI derangement moral panic. It'll pass just like every other time once the lawsuits start hitting the dockets.

Unlike, for instance, the previous PoW ponzicoin fad that specifically gobbled up retail consoomer gayman HW, this current RAM price spike looks like just the same plain old pricefixing the cartel's been prosecuted for in 2002, 2006, 2010, and 2017:
https://www.xda-developers.com/dram-prices-spiking-dont-trust-industry-reasons/
Intentionally cutting production for years, hoarding inventory, shifting remaining production away from less profitable to the most lucrative chips, consolidation, all against a backdrop of constantly increasing demand and revenues.

This definitely would've happened even without some trendy datacenter bubble exacerbating it

>>310518 
>the race to muh AGI
Goes into the same bucket as antigrav, FTL, anti-senescence, etc., in that we don't even understand the phenomenon we're trying to manipulate (human sapience in this case) well enough at a base level, so we have no way of knowing if any given approach (all the way up to the Turing machine itself!) at reverse engineering it is a complete dead end or not. Attempting to predict such breakthroughs is a fool's errand.
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>>310531
Wish the burgers were bombing the ram ((( cartels ))) instead of beaner cartels.
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>>310551
LOL that might happen, but I don't think it's gonna be us doing the bombing.
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>>310554
>China doing a Special Military Operations in Taiwan
>mfw
I have been waiting since forever, it will never happen, odds are they are going to use the peaceful route with Taiwan joing China.
Or maybe it will be nuked when the chinks can make their own chips
Or it will stay the same forever.
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>>310558
Chinks have been building custom D-Day style landing ships and want full military readiness by 2027. I'm not up to date on the sinosphere, but they seem pretty consistent on that one for a while now, as well as their usual patience on the world stage and ignoring what other countries would see as an opportunity. The US has been moving chip manufacturing out of Taiwan for the last few years now even if to little success, because turns out the US is gayer, browner and whinier than corporate had accounted for even before getting humiliated by the goatfuckers and wasting trillions in limited stockpiles on another failed war for their ((( masters ))); and it seems like Taiwan's overreliance on the megacorps that just so happen to be sat on top of the AI bubble might have a secondary meaning to why the bubble is being kept inflated, now I think about it.
I'm usually on team nothing ever happens, but "one more year" is at least a different one to "two more weeks". And, as you said they still have the "peaceful" route. Honestly, kinda looking forward to it from a bystander PoV; US wars are boring to tune into, Russian wars are half annoying half depressing and every other war is usually just infinitesimal oogaboogas and almost identical factions bickering. A chinky war might shake things up a bit for a change, since Taiwan's been hunkering down to prep for it too. Could go either way desu.

Sage for self-aware offtopic, not gonna carry the conversation on because it ain't /v/ideogames, just a relevant QRD.
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>>310572
that's crazy
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>old computer is pushing a decade old
>decide its about time to build new one
>shell out for decent graphics card and 32gigs of ram
>runs the same games fucking worse than old computer
>input lag, screen tearing, absolute dogshit fps and other problems galore
>some games that used to run fine now just crash to black screen on startup 
>one game in particular has a built in fps counter which says I'm getting like 20 fps while the amd software says that I actually getting 60 fps which is just bullshit
>shit works okay for a bit whenever I restart but after a little bit all the problems will come crashing back midgame just the same as it was before
just fucking end me
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>>310637
Drivers?
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>>310638
all up to date
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What is the best AMD GPU out right now? I find their naming structure incomprehensible compared to Nvdia.
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>>310639
Less "up to date", more "fully wiped + fresh install". I vaguely remember that lingering NVidia drivers screw with AMD ones deliberately and it's somehow legal, even before older drivers stepping on their own toes.
Also, if it's still default, Adrenaline has settings to enable / disable for performance. Make sure you're not background recording yourself or something.

>>310640
9070 for price to performance and energy efficiency, just above a 5070 / 4070TiS / 3080
9070XT for performance; roughly a 4080S / 5070Ti
Both generally perform better on lighter workloads, see above for standard gaming, and lower on raytracing-heavy workloads (CP2077 / Black Myth). Both are dogshit with AI genning and weaker crypto miners.

7900 is last gen, 7900XTX was alright but it was a pretty lackluster gen for AMD's cards.
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>>310641
>fully wiped
Note the normal uninstallation procedure might not be enough to keep different drivers (even installs of the same driver!) from interfering with each other due as much to AMD/nVidia's incompetence as anything, the only surefire method on Windows is using Wagnard DDU to eliminate every trace of all GPU drivers.
>fresh install
Speaking of which, before diving into debugging one's beloved legacy data migration, with problems like other  poster described it's best to first check benchmarks with a completely fresh OS install just to make sure it isn't a hardware issue.
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AMD Olympic Ridge “Zen 6” Ryzen CPUs Get Integrated NPU At The Cost of iGPU, CUDIMM Ready Platform
https://archive.is/20260616070841/https://wccftech.com/amd-olympic-ridge-zen-6-ryzen-cpus-get-integrated-npu-at-the-cost-of-igpu/
Welp, if this is true, I will switch to Intel, fucking hell, I really wanted those 24 cores....
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>>310656
If you buy from Intel you buy from Nvidia and the federal government of the US of A. Really, at this point your best option would be buying something not x86 based if you want your money not to support AI. Although in that case ARM is not an option either.
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>>310657
>and the federal government of the US of A
Anon... AMD is also in bed with the USA goverment... they have donated millions to the goverment lately.
rsicv is still a good option, but I need it to get stronger.
>>310656
Worth noting it's (just like prior gen's iGPU) on a separate die from the CPU cores/caches, so it's not actually consuming any gatecount or impacting yields.

>>310657
>not to support AI
Ridiculous tech veganism
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>>310659
Yeah, it is only adding cancer to the fucking cpu
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>>310661
The only cancer is nonlocal or cucked models. Admittedly much like iGPUs for graphics in the past the puny capabilities of integrated NPUs do render them worthless for actually useful local models.
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>>310662
iGPU > NPU
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>>310637
I installed Gentoo on my new rig last year and it's been running fine, any performance regressions were just me being retarded with my flags.

>>310663
Objectively true given the absolute state of NPU software backends on Lindowns compared to Crapple's MLX.
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>>310664
>any performance regressions were just me being retarded with my flags.
What sort of flags?
Nvidia faces scrutiny over $5.4B GPU sale to Valor amid Burry’s claims of round-tripped capital
https://archive.is/20260619233344/https://cryptobriefing.com/nvidia-valor-gpu-sale-burry-scrutiny/
>Nvidia sold over 100,000 GB200 GPUs to Valor, a newly created special-purpose vehicle established specifically to hold the chips. That sale generated $5.4 billion in revenue for Nvidia.
>But Nvidia didn’t just sell and walk away. The company also injected $1.9 billion of its own equity into Valor as a limited partner. In English: Nvidia sold the GPUs to an entity it partially funded.
>On the debt side, Apollo arranged roughly $3.5 billion in financing for Valor. That debt was then securitized, packaged up, and sold to Athene, Apollo’s insurance subsidiary. Athene manages annuity assets, which means the ultimate risk holders include retirees whose pension and annuity payments depend on stable returns.
>The GPUs are then leased to an xAI subsidiary under a five-year triple-net lease arrangement. The triple-net structure means the lessee, xAI’s subsidiary, covers maintenance, insurance, and taxes on top of rent. More importantly for the accounting, this setup keeps the GPU assets off the balance sheets of both Nvidia and xAI.
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>>310716
We need to do something.
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>>310911
lol this is /v/ all you're gonna get is pearl clutching and outrage
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>>310933
I mean all you need are a couple jewicide bombers in the right place and even a /v/tard is capable of dying like a bitch
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>Steam Machine 512GB: $1049.00
>Steam Machine 2TB: $1349.00
It's bad surprising noone.
>>310950
how does it compare to current gen consoles though? the only people who would buy this are retard niggers and broccoli heads who don't even know how to turn on a computer. I know it's a computer but it's heavily meant to be a plug and play solution so it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison in a way.
>>310950
Price to part how does it stack up? Prices are out the ass right now anyway.
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>>310957
512GB DIY $72 saved
2TB DIY $200 saved
That is about it, you only buy this becuase "muh steam" and want to suffer under loonix.
>>310968
Um ackshually loonix is good ok?
>>310950
RIP
If it wasn't for the catastrophic price gouging from this data center bullshit, I'd have been happy to see this thing purely because of how transportable it would be and how small the form factor is. But $1000 for a computer with no storage space? With 16GB Ram? And 8GB VRam? No way fag
Drop it down to $700 and it'd be somewhat stomachable

Hot damn am I glad I bought parts before the RAM shortages, holy shit what a nightmare
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>>310968
Let me guess, you suffer under windows 7 and think that makes you some kind of freedom martyr.
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>>310968
>>310974
Why not install Windows 7 on it?
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>>310977
Uhhh because 2009 was 16 years ago and getting new CPUs and motherboards to work on it is a janky shitshow that gets worse every year?
>>310968
>>310968
>want to suffer under loonix.
Compared to what, Jeetows or Kikepple?
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>>310974
Best OS for gaming is windows 7 prove me wrong, protip: you can't.
best shitposting OS is whatever free as in freedom OS you want
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>>310970
Can't wait to see how consoles bloat in price later this year. Isn't microsoft shitting out a new xbox soon as well? I can't imagine that going below $1k minimum.
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>>310994
>>310970
Quick! What's the inflation adjustment on the infamous PS3 $599.00 USD annoucement?
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>>310995
NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY-FIVE US DOLLARS
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>>310997
Pottery. Someone call the numerologists.
>>310995
>>310997
Reminds me of looking up Diocletian's price list and getting depressed over how little things have changed.
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>>311003
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_on_Maximum_Prices
>The Edict on Maximum Prices (Latin: Edictum de Pretiis Rerum Venalium, "Edict Concerning the Sale Price of Goods"; also known as the Edict on Prices or the Edict of Diocletian) was issued in 301 by Diocletian. The document denounces greed and sets maximum prices and wages for all important articles and services. 
>The last third of the Edict, divided into 32 sections, imposed a price ceiling – a list of maxima – for well over a thousand products. These products included various food items (beef, grain, wine, beer, sausages, etc.), clothing (shoes, cloaks, etc.), freight charges for sea travel, and weekly wages. The highest limit was on one pound of purple-dyed silk, which was set at 150,000 denarii (the price of a lion was set at the same price).
Wish lions were still this cheap.
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>>310989
Can you run the dankest 90s PC emulators and RPCS3/Xenia on Windows 7 without turning your system into a house of cards or struggling to get fullspeed? protip: you can't
Can you run steam for the handful of games worth playing online with your actual friends on Windows 7? protip: you can't
>>310994
I don't fucking know man, the rumors are all over the place. I've heard MS is quietly pulling a Sega, I've heard Helix is on hold because MS fucked up and didn't stockpile DRAM before the bubble hit Zimbabwe dollar levels, I've heard Helix is gonna be $700+, I've heard Helix is actually a cloud gaming terminal. Shits fucked.
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>>311004
If 1 denarii was about 4.5 oz of silver on the low end, and the current price of silver per oz is $60 thereabouts. Then the lion would cost $31.05 million. You probably get a deal for a lion cub in an asian black market way below Roman market price.
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>>311006
The amount of debasement of the denarii by the time of Diocletian was quite high, iirc.
In any case, 72,000 denarii bought about 300g of gold according to the Diocletian reforms list I can find. The current gold spot right now is, say, $140/g? So $140x300/72000=~$0.58/denarii . Based on that, a lion would've been more like $87000.
>>311005
>worth
>online games
HUEHUEHUEHUE
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And it got worse.
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>>311113
Steam already said poors can't afford gaming pcs anyway so its so moot at this point.
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Alright I'm getting the new nothing phone.
Fucking bank app stopped working and there arent any more updates so roast me if you want.
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>>311220
>Alright I'm getting the new nothing phone.
Stop being a pajeet.
Come home, White man.
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>>311220
Why not a Graphene Pixel? What's your reasoning here, and what's it do over the competition?

<inb4 vaporware
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>>311243
Not sold here by non scalpers.
Also battery life.
>>311241
The new world order has me in its claws, save yourself anon before it's too late.
>>311220
Just buy two phones, and do remote desktop from one phone to the ((( other )))
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Guys, please
Whatever privacyLARP phone you get you will always be triangulated by the 6 million cell towers. The solution is pretty simple:
<I live in a country where phone booths work
Don't buy a phone or a SIM. Just get a landline for home.
<I live in a subhuman country where phone booths don't work anymore
Get a dumb phone so you can at least avoid software level spyware and getting distracted on jewtube and similar jewery social media.
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>>311277
Yeah man nobody can track landlines
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>>311280
The point is that nobody can track everywhere you physically go like when you carry a phone in your pants you stupid nigger.
If you don't want your CONVERSATIONS to be tracked then don't use a phone period.
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>>311281
Stupid people like you love running your mouth about shit you don't understand.
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>>311282
>No arguments made
Profound mental niggermonkey retardation. Pajeet with a nothing phone or grapheneOS shiller? Your call.
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>>311284
Does this meet your approval?
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>>311284
As long as you pay taxes and live in any sort of registered structure you're gonna be traceable. You're just making sure corporate entities can't see you.
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>>311281 
While your reasoning is valid, and not having a phone period is the best way to do it, it's a bit of a moot point when everyone else has a goyphone on them and that those can still register your conversations. Plus, every service and company out there demanding you have a fucking phone make not having one a fucking nightmare to live in a modern society.
So I'd still say your landline idea is the best in-between.
What's wrong with graphene, by the way? Did they jew out and lie about everything?
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>>311289
Approval for what? What do you want to do?
>>311291
Holy shit guys, please take some time off the internet because your reading comprehension is fucking negative. My post was about the ability of cell towers to triangulate the POSITION of your cellphone everywhere you go from your  GOVERNMENT (and ISP). Hence the complete retardation of people saying "buy muh GrapheneOS 900 dollars pixel" or "buy muh linux phone". 

My solution was to either NOT get a cellphone or get a dumb phone so you can at least AVOID all the other spyware from NON-GOVERNMENTAL entities. Jesus Christ, I get this is a /v/ board but fucking wake up retards.

>>311292
All correct, but I was replying to the "buy this phone" shills.
>What's wrong with graphene, by the way? Did they jew out and lie about everything?
David (project lead) is a hack that samefags many twitter and reddit accounts to discredit projects like OpenBSD because he got ass mad that they did not accept his changes to some malloc functions in libc. He also goes around reddit to say that macs and windows is better than any open source system, that smartphones are actually better for security than personal computers, and teaches his followers to do the same like a cult. He had to step down because of controversies about his schizo rages. 
But I cannot understate how pointless "muh security" is to cellphones when A) the hardware is even more closed than the IBM PC clone and B) the fucking cell towers are going to trace you anyways. It's a fucking LARP.
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>>311299
Who said to buy a phone? Post quotes.
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>>311299
Doesn't he also waste a bunch of time picking fights with ecelebs over random bullshit? Last I heard, he's been schizzing out at some Youtuber for years because he interviewed a dev David didn't like.
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>>311301
Read from 311220 onwards you lazy ass.
>>311302
I didn't know about ecelebs tweets, though I know that he would post an opinion on something and the day later he would literally delete the post and say the opposite. And people trust an OS made by a guy like that.
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>>311276 
You can also just use a discrete (USB/BT) cellular modem, which the best libre phones do specifically because the BbP at the heart of every conventional cellphone has extreme invasive access in ways even an IOMMU-less PC's TPM doesn't.

>>311277
>Whatever privacyLARP phone you get you will always be triangulated by the 6 million cell towers.
Irrelevant, just use a VPN with VoIP. Your telco will only see a mysterious stream of encrypted garbage, and your VoIP will only see an equally mysterious VPN endpoint. Load the modem with burner SIM and your telco won't know anything about you other than your location.
<don't use an android/ios device with remote attestation
<don't use a gecko/webkit/chromium browser
<don't use an up-to-date os on modern hardware
LARP. Either you're a lying faggot, some flavor of NEET parasite who dumps it on your handlers, or a magical unicorn snowflake that works exclusively for cash and pays taxes in crates of pennies delivered by parcel post.
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>>311308
>You can also just use a discrete (USB/BT) cellular modem
What the fuck are you talking about?
>Irrelevant, just use a VPN with VoIP
Ah yes, pay up a for-rent server of a VPN company. Are you also going to give me the list of "privacy focused VPN companies"? Also, how are you going to connect your precious smartphone around the street? Public Wi-Fi?
> Load the modem with burner SIM and your telco won't know anything about you other than your location.
Not even mentioning that most countries don't let you do that after 9/11 and ISIS, your telco will see your IMEI among other unique details about your device you top-of-the-line LARPer.
I don't know what those red quotes are supposed to be other than some kind of strawman argument i never made.
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This is why everyone hates /tech/ and tries to ignore it as much as possible.

Everything that's been posted is either true on the most superficial level but mooter than a dead imageboard for various reasons or based on niggerpill sites like digdeeper that get pushed to demoralize you into thinking even the most basic steps to reduce your MEANINGFUL attack surface are pointless.
>>311220
Just get a fucking unlockable device from the Lineage list and install something with microg. You're gonna have to play whac-a-mole with Play Integrity no matter what at this point so you might as well get the side benefits of a custom ROM.
>>311310
>What the fuck are you talking about?
The benefits of fully separating the cell phrom the phone
>Are you also going to give me the list of "privacy focused VPN companies"?
Categorical dismissals of reputable VPNs are schizoid FUD
>most countries don't let you do that
Most of those have no legal enforcement mechanism other than the annoyance of risking service termination, and the ones that do are mostly undeveloped economies so rife with other black market activity this entire conversation is somewhat irrelevant. I acknowledge there are some EU members that fall into neither category though, sadly.
>your telco will see your IMEI
That's only tied to the modem, barely more significant than the IMSI tied to the SIM.
>some kind of strawman argument i never made
The implication that opting out of stuff like banking apps is more practical to a normal adult than just taking some simple opsec measures.
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>>311315
>Categorical dismissals of reputable VPNs are schizoid FUD
Let me categorically refuse to read whatever bullshit you have written after this r/privacy take
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>>311320
>/r/disagreeswithme
This is why everyone hates /tech/ and tries to ignore it as much as possible.

Please use your epic privacy h4xx to plan a big freedom bombing so I can laugh at your idiot face on the nightly news.
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>>311311
What does that picture really mean?
>>311311
>>311323
Apply for janny position princess.
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>Just get a fucking unlockable device from the Lineage list and install something with microg. 
Nothing 2 seems to be on that list, thanks anon.
sturgeon please dont wipe this thread
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>>311368
Look up any major gotchas (like no radio support) and see if you can capture the "keybox" before you start. Jewgle is pushing more and more TPM shit to use things like banking apps and you need to root and run an emulator module to bypass it all. If you can get PI to report device integrity you're golden. Also use as much shit from F-droid as you possibly can and consider using a work profile sandbox like Island for that stuff as well.
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>>311371
>no support for play integrity
>relies on an arms race vs the biggest evil corporation
Fuck.
>If you can get PI to report device integrity you're golden. 
If only I was cool enough to be able to do this.
Maybe the year of the free phone isn't here yet.
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>>311374
Welcome to the dark cyberpunk present anon. The good news is if you don't have to deal with that gay shit, you can ignore it and just enjoy having significantly less bloat than stock.
>>311371
>Jewgle is pushing more and more TPM shit to use things like banking apps
This is ridiculously naive, but what's the benefit of using Chase/Wells Fargo when credit unions exist?
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>>311379
Credit unions do the same shit, just not as quickly. On the other hand (at least in burgerstan) a lot of credit unions have shared branching so you don't have to use an app just to deposit a fucking check in a strange town.
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>>311380
>Credit unions do the same shit, just not as quickly.
No, I mean even your reply is a point in credit unions' favor ("just not as quickly" is a "least dirty shirt in the laundry" point in credit unions' favor). What I'm asking is what advantage does Chase/Wells have at all? The apps are worse, the reviews are worse, the fees are worse, there are legit horror stories that I've never heard equivalents from smaller banks, the privacy concerns are worse, etc..  The only thing I see is that Chase/Wells have more branches, but is there a lot more people than I realize that travel a whole lot so they need branches across the country?
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>>311385
I would say the main advantage of the big jew banks is greater access to credit and rewards plans. In my experience most credit unions have no credit card rewards or it's something gay like a penny per swipe. With someplace like Chase you can get frequent flyer miles and multiple percent in cash back, all paid for by the poor schmucks accepting the card. Being jews if you actually "need" a credit card they're more likely to work with you because the managers are sexually aroused by debt slavery. Also if you have money you can just walk in with a photo ID and make an account while most credit unions require you to work at a partner company or go to a particular college. sage for way off topic
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Oh, you have special phone? That's nice. Now do the hand gestures like everyone else. Welcome to gay cyberpunk world.
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>>311005
>cloud terminal
But where are they going to find the DRAM for the video gays datacenter when AI has eaten it all?

>>311307
>feature-flip phone LARP
<Whatsapp
Way to miss the point.
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>>311412
> Way to miss the point.
Ahktually, the entire point of that phone is just to milk boomer/gen-x Commodore nostaliacs. Many companies have bought the rights to Commodore over the years to do just that. And the deluded victims will gladly pay tons of USD or EUR for the privilege of having something official with Commodore logo on it, just to pretend the brand is still alive and they haven't caved in to Bill Gates and the illuminati.
But the buying of espensive gadgets is where it stops. They're quite content to make all their websites and forums depend on Web 3 stack that needs a modern botnet web browser that can't possibly ever run on 68k amigas, much less a C64. If they had any brains whatsoever, they'd do everything in their power to accomodate the restro systems they allegedly care about, by for example replacing Web 3 stack with gopher and NNTP, which are light enough to deploy and run without cuckflare-type proxies.
But all they got is a fat bank account, and no brains. Otherwise they'd have bought something like pic instead, and cashed out their 401k's to buy physical silver & gold.
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>>311407
It is optional, goy! Now turn on your camera, please.
>>311412
>Way to miss the point.
I think with that phone you can install any OS you want so it doesn't matter.
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>>311418
And yet you have no money no brains and no meds. Who's the real loser?
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>>311429
It's the third time you're posting this picture in the past couple days.
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>>311437
It's the third time you've made it relevant to post in the past couple days.
>>311394 
In my experience the main reason to have an account at a megacorp bank, even you do all your real "banking" at a credit union, is that a lot of other megacorps refuse to transfer funds seamlessly to and from credit unions. This goes double if you even dabble in business yourself.

>>311418
>gopher and NNTP
Those were more of a mainframe thing back in the day. Even on actual vintage home micro hardware or emulators, I'd say at this point support for static HTML4, maybe even with CSS2, is more widespread.

The real sticking point is HTTPS Everywhere, because on the one hand you have to constantly update keys which is impossible on unmaintained or rarely updated browsers, and on the other hand most modern browsers will outright refuse connections to a server absent TLS with the latest certs. The only ways around this are either a redundant non-TLS server redirecting just for vintage clients on the host end, or some kind of TLS proxy on the client end that might as well just run an entire modern browser engine and feed the output indirectly to your vintage device/environment.

>cash out your assets that have had positive real apy every decade for shiny rocks with flat or negative real apy
If you want to burn money, lighting it on fire is a lot more fun than stuffing shiny rocks in your pillowcase.
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>>311447
> Even on actual vintage home micro hardware or emulators
That's a pretty big category, and can mean anything from mid 70's Altair to mid 90's expanded Amiga/Atari with 68040 and lots of RAM & disk space. Well on an 8-bit 80's micro you're not gonna be loading big HTML4 pages, it's just not gonna fit in memory. Gopher is much better here, because of how minimal it is. You can run native gopher client directly on the 8-bit system, without needing any proxy system, and it doesn't care about HTTPS-everywhere, just like telnet doesn't care about SSH keys. Of course it's not secure, but the amiga websites and forums are about a hobby activity, so they don't need this useless overhead. Instead today they do maximum bloat, including anti-AI bot scraping layer. It's very niggerlicious! (they obviously didn't watch the video where Terry Davis talks about scaling)

> If you want to burn money
No, I want to save money, or rather turn crapital (fiat) into real capital that can't be printed into oblivion like fiat currencies. I did in fact cash out my 401k and IRAs in 2022, when the gold/silver spot prices dipped. It would have been better if I did so before 2008, but I was still unmotivated to go through all that trouble, because things weren't bad enough yet. The more time passes, the worse things will get. There is actually no solution to this problem, because the federal government will never downsize and balance its bugdet. They are just going to keep building moar datacenters and doing moar wars and surveillance shit everywhere, and make (You) pay for it via inflation.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/how-push-back-against-advancing-beast-system
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>>311463
You know the solution, you're just too much of a coward to apply it.
>>311463
>anything from mid 70's Altair
Which can't even run a full TCP/IP stack, so at best you end up using something mainframe-y like...
>telnet
Which is just controlling software that has to run on a remote proxy, which like I said might just as well be a modern web browser engine.
>it's just not gonna fit in memory
Without embeds, scripts, or external domains? Even modern webpages are usually under 32K:
https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2019/page-weight
Anything powerful enough to have ever been capable of connecting directly to the Internet, is also more than powerful enough to run a minimalist/vintage web browser.
>fiat
Is a medium of exchange, not a store of value.
>The more time passes, the worse things will get.
Not that prepping realistically isn't a good idea, but don't be a doomer. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.
>make (You) pay for it via inflation.
Ah yes, your brilliant plan to hedge against inflation is... Switching from assets that have positive real APY to liabilities that have flat or negative real APY. Pure genius.
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>>311470
I think you can run native TCP/IP clients on a C64, Apple II, and similar 8-bit micros but the software takes up 10-30 KB RAM, and on a 64K system that doesn't leave you with very much left for storing web page in RAM (and the data structures needed for parsing it). That's why Gopher is better, because it doesn't have any tag soup and other bullshit, it's as smol and minimal as possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contiki
> Without embeds, scripts, or external domains? Even modern webpages are usually under 32K:
Well you have to first run it through a proxy do remove all that bloat and HTTPS. And even after you do that, the gopher page will still be smaller and load faster!
With an Amiga 500/600/1200 you theoretically have a lot more room to play with, but their TCP/IP stack probably needs moar RAM also. I have seen quite a few screenhots like pic-related, but not many recent ones. I doubt they can post on there anymore.
But the point is the amiga scene doesn't care about supporting their own hardware. It's not a serious hobby scene anymore, so I abandonned my plans of buying one of those computers. I'd rather have any 8-bit system at this point (which my first computer was, so I know exactly what they're like and capable of).
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Remember when this thread was about hardware?
https://shop.arcstation.net/arcstation-ode/
Hohols came out with a true plug and play ODE for the PS1. This is actually a big deal because previous outings were either obnoxious to deal with or overgrown modchips, and the CD-Rs that work properly in a PS1 and won't wear out the motor prematurely are scalped to hell though not as bad as mini DVDs.
>>311477
Totally agreed that retrocomputing hobbyist forums not even offering a "lite" version of the site accessible via native browsers is very cringe

I'm willing to cut some slack for something like imageboards, though, since most of us offer APIs used by phone apps, and if somebody was insane enough they could certainly write a native jschan client for ProDOS or whatever.
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maybe it is not all snake oil, only time will tell
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>>311545
Very interesting. Reminds me of the Glaze3D from the 3Dfx era that popped up out of nowhere, and was working well enough in software it almost reached tapeout, before they gave up, pivoted to mobile, then merged into ATI/AMD.
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>>311548
IIRC the problem with Bitboys was they were talking a big game and had nothing to back it up but some bullshit projected performance numbers that Nvidia kept catching up to by the time they hit their claimed tapeout dates. This pajeet's card is probably going to turn out the same way, and even if it doesn't it's only going to be good for path tracing and rendering.
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>>311860
yeah, it is fucking retarded that they are chasing path tracing and not giving a fuck about rasterization, because fuck you.
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>>311861
Personally, I always felt rasterization/triangles/bitmapped textures were a dead end evolutionary mistake. Right around when GPUs really took off in the late '90s happened to coincide with software fullscene RTRT becoming viable, and something like Larabee or a GPU-less double-Cell PS3 emphasizing MP & SIMD could've easily brought us something superior to what GPUs did.

Current implementations of RTRT are starved by anemic silicon budgets and hobbled by reliance on largely the same triangle/bitmap asset pipelines as GPUs, but I don't think that should be held against the potential of a more ideal implementation.
>>311861
It's not for gaming, because gamers don't have inflation money to spend. It's for powering mass surveillance, slop and render farms for the newest CGI garbage movies.
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>>311996
>slop and render farms for the newest CGI garbage movies.
Yes, absolutely. Propaganda farms. Mass surveillance and slop propaganda farms. Reminder that Palantir (mass surveillance) and all major Western AI companies + social media companies are owned and run by jews, for you anons out there reading this while still living under metric tons of rock. Among many things, jews are the core root of the destruction of everything good and the chosen demons of the adversary.
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>>312001
Wow, this is really troubling news, fellow completely inconspicuous anon. Do you know of any convenient federal buildings could try to bomb and fail so the site gets shut down, preferably while accomplishing nothing of value?
Chip industry group warns US government against interventionist approach to memory chip shortage
https://archive.is/20260703190145/https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/chip-industry-group-warns-us-government-against-interventionist-approach-to-memory-chip-shortage/
>SEMI argues that policies that “distort” pricing and capacity decisions risks prolonging downturn
>Chip industry trade association SEMI has written to the senior officials in US President Donald Trump's administration, urging the government to stop trying to influence memory prices and production capacity.
>According to a report from Bloomberg, the group has warned that an interventionist approach is likely to worsen supply, as companies across all industries continue to grapple with the ongoing shortage of memory chips.
>Instead, SEMI, whose members include Micron, SK Hynix, and Samsung, has said that companies should be allowed to continue striking long-term agreements with customers, adding that tax breaks should be extended to encourage production capacity increases in the US.
>"While targeted policies can support accelerating domestic supply resilience, interventions that distort pricing or capacity decisions risk prolonging the demand downturn," SEMI said in its July 1 letter, a copy of which has been seen by Bloomberg News. "Current market conditions are being addressed through investments in >American manufacturing and an increasing focus on long-term purchase agreements.”
>The letter was addressed to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
>Royal Kastens, the group's vice president of global public policy and advocacy, later said in a statement that SEMI members “appreciate the Trump administration's proactive efforts to bolster memory capacity in support of advancing AI and data center infrastructure in pursuit of US technology leadership.”
>Memory companies have warned that the memory chip shortage is likely to persist into 2027 and beyond, with consumer electronics the most likely to suffer in the face of ongoing shortages, as capacity will increasingly become allocated to AI infrastructure projects.
>In January 2025, the Wall Street Journal reported that data from TrendForce shows that up to 70 percent of the memory produced worldwide in 2026 will be consumed by data centers.
I hop the memory cartel gets bombed soonTM.
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>>312023
If it isn't abundantly clear, this only applies to the shortages in the AI markets. Consumers only mran AI datacenters now and actual consumers are no longer a market, especially when the goal is to force them to use AI to access basic computer functions. It'll be hilarious when China suddenly takes a monopoly in the consumer chip industry after everyone else abandons it. An industry that was still pulling tens of billions just fine.
Looks like I will have to buy an entirely new computer. Any tips and tricks and recommendations for prebuilds?
>>312208
Yeah, don't buy a new computer. Look on craigslist or whatever they use in your particular shithole for used computers.
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>>312210
The problem is, I know absolutly fuckall about hardware so that would not only be delving into completly new topic but also doing archeology on the way.
>>312359
if you want to play old games just buy a thinkstation or similar on ebay.
if you want to play new games give up or suck a dick to an oil baron.
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>>312208
Honestly, if you're going to go past free-on-craigslist tier, go in for a penny in for a pound. 
Prebuilts just add heaps in retard tax, and often times since all the components are discount-grade, you can't recycle any of them when you get around to making something of your own.
If you're looking to weather the current climate; focus on getting good quality parts that are stable in price and will remain usable in your ideal build (eg CPU, PSU, Mobo, Case, Fans / AIO) and scrape on the expensive stuff with the cheapest you can reasonably live with (GPU, RAM, Storage). When things calm down or you've got the money to spare, you'll at least have something to springboard off of from there.
Basically, go on PCPartpicker, and make two builds (one which you plan on using and one which is the bridge until then) with a core of parts you want to preserve between them. Make sure they're both compatible, and you've got a gameplan.

t. guy who was probably in the same position as you, got a mega-deal on a $600 prebuilt that should have been $1,100 (because an idiot pothead needed money ASAP) and still kinda regretted it when he got around to making his own; despite selling for more than $1,100 because of pricehikes

>>312359
>I know absolutly fuckall about hardware so that would not only be delving into completly new topic but also doing archeology on the way
Simplest way is just compare things on https://userbenchmark.com, retardproof to use and straightforward to compare. CPU / GPU are the main and-or only things you really need to focus on, with a dose of common sense and accounting for personal preference along the way (eg a 10% worse CPU for 50TB more storage is obviously a better deal). Ignore the sperging against AMD's stuff.
>>312359
If you want to play just some old games you can play practically about anything nowaday on a ARM SOC/mini pc
>>312208
>tips and tricks
Buy the biggest CPU cooler your case can fit, modern CPUs go nuclear on the regular even at 65W TDP.
Moar fan=generally better, but do case comparisons nonetheless and don't be an retard.
Beware of clearances, particularly for 12VHPWR connectors and air coolers.
Do not cheap out on the PSU if you don't want a house fire and/or fried components.
PCIE5.0 when in use usually knocks out or degrades other PCIE connectors, particularly for NVMe SSDs (also remember to put a cooler on there as well, doesn't need a fan but make sure it's double sided depending on the PCIE5 SSD).
Avoid RTX 4000+ Nvidia unless you need to use Windows or want to run advanced slop, the already mentioned 12VHPWR is a fire hazard regardless of setup and extra fiery on Nvidia due to dogshit circuit design 3000 series cards are fine though.
Used Inthell CPUs manufactured in mid-2023 are guaranteed to fail at some point due to a fabrication defect, avoid.
>prebuilt
Make sure it uses commodity parts exclusively so you don't end up in Dell hell, and check for recent non-shill reviews with a focus on packaging and build quality (prebuilts outside of big nigger are usually hand-assembled with fluctuations in employee numbers thanks to the current age nigger economy having profound effects on build quality).
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>>312414
Running a 4090 for about 4 years now no issues and it's not a fire hazard lmao. 
Also advanced slop? there are good uses for which includes AI. 
Good cooler and PSU is good suggestion though. 
I am uneducation on the PCIE5.0 thing, maybe that's legit, I'm on AM4 anyways but I would check this anons claim due to turbo fire hazard autism (just get a warranty card if your worried and want 4000+. 
You are being too autistic chud here and going overboard.
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>>312456
I guess it depends on clearances near the connector, but it would be extremely homosexual not to at least mention the absolute kikery Novideo pulled with 12VHPWR.
The PCIE5.0 thing is very real on my AM5 Assrock board, one of the NVMe ports goes IIRC straight up dead with a PCIE5 SSD in the PCIE5 port due to a lack of lanes or some shit.

>advanced slop
AMD is better than it used to be in terms of compatibility but there's at least 25% of slopware that plain doesn't run or runs like shit on AMD, stuff like llama.cpp's Vulkan backend or ComfyUI's HIP integration are still the exception rather than the rule, essential shit like Flash-Attention only supports the old v2 without esoteric autism on AMD and stuff like Sage-Attention is Nvidia exclusive, as are shitloads of tiny Comfy nodes made by singular Sinojeets and/or llama.cpp forks for the latest revolutionary spergian technology that of course runs like shit on AMD until it gets merged into mainline with proper Vulkan support.
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>>312461
Yeah I admit I know jack shit on this topic, I should have just said I think it's dumb to be against buying best Nvidia GPU and dismissing the value of AI and uses like 3d on nvidia. 

I will say I don't recommend EVGA current PSUs simply because my anecdote of having one work for 5 years, die, get replaced, replacement died 5 months it, and it's a 400$+ 1300w platinum unit. super nova or something. Got a good reviewed one with a specific single cable connector for my 4090, too new to know if good.
>>312456
>Running a 4090 for about 4 years now no issues and it's not a fire hazard lmao. 
You are lucky, buy lottery tickets.
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>>312501
Well,to out myself more, it's a watercooled one that only draws 450TDP. 
Hard to believe 4090s are just burning up left and right though.
>>312501
I'm on a 4080 super and never had any issues either, shit runs super cool even in summer never even gets past 75 c while hardcore gayman
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