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>What are you playing? Looking forward to anything?
Nothing, the fags that comprise the "fighting game community" abandoned all the games I liked and are incapable of saying no when a company shits down their throat.

>Looking forward to anything?
lol

>>283793
Like what games?

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>>283784 (OP) 
>Garou: City of the Wolves flopped and the CEO stepped down, they announced three seasons prior to release, so we will see if they continue or axe them.
It's almost like shoving dumb real life "celbrities" into the roster was a retarded idea and hurt the sales more than help them...
Whoever thought that was a good idea needs to be shot.
Too bad because SNK did some shit right, like keeping the price down and including the first batch of DLC for "free"
I hope that Fatal Fury will go back to the original timeline with the classic roster, Big Bear, Cheng Sinzan, Blue Mary, Krauser, Sokaku which were far better than any character introduced in Garou, aside from Tizoc and B.Jenet.
Pic related is a far better roster then shit like Marco/Butt or Preacha

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>>283807
>SNK did some shit right
>including the first batch of DLC for "free"
ANY amount of DLC shows me that a publisher is too far gone. Doesn't matter if it's "Free". All it signals to me is that it's not a game worth getting until the "Complete" edition releases a few years down the line with all the content on the fucking disc.

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>>283807
Celebrities had nothing to do with the flop. The first beta which was free and before any celebs were announced had only 10k players, proving there wasn’t interest to begin with.
Tekken 7 did it with Negen and no one complained. Stop repeating this like an npc you nigger.

>>283813
>Tekken 7 did it with Negen and no one complained
Yes, they did

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>>283813
Everyone complained about Negan, faggot.
Celebrities had PLENTY to do with the flop, nigger.
How about you stop defending celebrity cancer and stop sucking cock for at least one second?

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>>283813
>Blindly defending a corporation selling out with soulless marketing stunt involving so-called "celebrities" (who the fuck are those two faggots even supposed to be lol)
>Has the nerve to call other people NPCs
You have no self awareness at all.
What a fucking joke.
>>283811
>ANY amount of DLC shows me that a publisher is too far gone. Doesn't matter if it's "Free". All it signals to me is that it's not a game worth getting until the "Complete" edition releases a few years down the line with all the content on the fucking disc.
This.
DLC is always cancer, even more so in fighting games.

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>>283813
Are you going to make this post again in another month and a half and pretend that nobody told you you were a stupid faggot?

>>283820
Yes I will keep repeating it because it's a damning evidence against you retards. I don't care about SNK, I care about facts. The game flopped for multiple reasons other than the celebs, mention them and I will not disagree. For example aside from the celebs he also mentioned original cast of Fatal Fury >>283807
who are better than the Garou cast, and he's absolutely right. Geese, Mary, Yamazaki, Duck king, would've garnered more interest than characters like Preecha or Vox. Another reason is that it looks like a ps3 game when SF6 and Tekken 8 came with cutting edge graphics. No alt costumes except for Terry, poor training mode...etc.

>>283823
>The game flopped for multiple reasons including the celebs
Ftfy

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>he's STILL going
You know what? Fuck it, you fags deserve tranny Bridget, Astolfo in Melty Blood, ugly squinty faced Chun-Li and whatever other garbage Larry Fink decides to shove down your throat. You deserve pay-to-win DLC characters, $5 palette swaps and battle passes. You deserve smurfs. You deserve everything you swallow, because you could have voted with your wallets and played Fightcade, Melty CC and even Neo Turf Masters instead of this crap.

>>283831
>Astolfo in Melty Blood
He's not in Melty Blood you tourist. And Astolfo can't be compared to Bridget, it's an entirely different case.

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>>283832
>He's not in Melty Blood
Yet. They added FGO seiba, it's just a matter of time with fags like you involved.
>And Astolfo can't be compared to Bridget
They're both ironic weeb tranny icons.

>>283831
>spoiler
Are you that one nigger in the Retroarch netplay lobby?
Is にとうしんでん the realest 闘神伝?

>>283834
So we must bend the knee to those ironic weebs and confirm their delusions instead of kicking them out? Fuck off faggot.

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>fighting game thread
>everybody fighting

>>283850
Soku tournament when?

>>283784 (OP) 
ANDY NO! MINNEAPOLIS CAN'T HANDLE ANOTHER ROUND!!

>>283852
I thought you guys migrated to the kimemaru site?

>>283850
>Doug
I thought he committed Sudoku.

>>283850
I vote with my wallet by not playing fighting games at all.

>>283889
>Having to pay to play fighting games
What rock are you living under?

>>283890
By refusing to interact with fighting games, I am also removing possible situations may convince somebody else to pay money for fighting games. Thus I am accruing negative value for the products.

Was Smash on N64 a meme from a mechanical standpoint?

>>283807
If the leaks were true then Rick Strowd and Alfred will be in the game. I would have loved to play as them now. The leak showed tons of OG FF characters that I bet people would have bought day one if SNK bothered to put them in the game. Them thinking it was sane for everyone to just wait 3 years for their favorites to be put in their game is insane, fuck that shit.
>>283813
Negan came  out multiple seasons later after everyone bought T7. false equivalence.
Also the celebrities aren't the sole killer but the representation of SNK and other future investments into that IP.  If you're going to spend millions in marketing on famous people who would never even touch the game instead of established characters that fans have invested decades in. Also, if you're paying millions for vanity marketing at the expense of what fans want, then people are going to scrutinize everything under a microscope; which is what heppened.

>>283968
> The leak showed tons of OG FF characters that I bet people would have bought day one if SNK bothered to put them in the game. Them thinking it was sane for everyone to just wait 3 years for their favorites to be put in their game is insane, fuck that shit.
After what? 30 years? SNK should have done a coassic Fatal Fury with the classic roster (with the classic costumes) instead of doing a shitty sequel to Garou that always had a worse roster.

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>>283968
>established characters that fans have invested decades in
>>283978
>Garou that always had a worse roster
The worst thing about the CotW discourse is old retards like you who don't understand that nobody has given a fuck about either Fatal Fury or Mark of the Wolves since the Playstation 2, and that 15 guys in a Fightcade lobby on 200+ ping isn't enough community groundswell to will a new player base into being. It's been enough time for an entire new, physical generation of boys to grow up, get driver's licenses, and get jobs without even hearing the words Fatal Fury and if it hadn't been for Smash Bros then nobody outside of the FGC would even know who Terry Bogard is.

>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but they ported Mark of the Wolves to a new console!
So? Shit like that is for the handful of people who play the game in side tournaments at big events. Ports, good or bad or rollback or whatever, do not get new people to play the game in large numbers because SNK never fucking markets their releases. The entire company has been coasting on nebulous notions like arcade spirit and word of mouth since before they went bankrupt, and now that they have infinite Saudi oil money they're realizing that no amount of money can make up for being out of touch.

Sure, fine, maybe you didn't like the Garou characters. It's been twenty six fucking years since that game released. The entire genre has nearly capsized like two times since then. You have a fucking room temperature IQ if you sincerely think "new generation roster clash" is a meaningful talking point for any of these games. Boring characters like Fat Guy In Suspenders and Chinese Twins and Tall Guy With Tattoos and Straw Hat Fisherman would not have saved this game. The Second Coming would not have saved this game.

Did CotW have rich, nuanced mechanics for offense and defense?
Did it have a roster of cool characters?
Did it have some kind of unique thing you can't get anywhere else?
Arguably yes (even if the game's style isn't to my tastes).

Did CotW fucking work?
Did it release at a fair price?
Did it do something do differentiate itself from SF6?
No. End of fucking story.

>>283981
SamSho 2019 was successful because it’s roster and presentation were special, basically it did have a unique thing. Of course then SNK killed it with retarded decisions like Epic exclusivity.

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>>283981
>I am a clueless underage retard who knows nothing about Fatal Fury and never cared about it, so let me tell you what the right path for the series is.
How about you shut the fuck up instead of talking shit about stuff you clearly know nothing about.
<I don't care therefore nobody cares
Here's a thing, you can't speak for anybody but yourself, and you opinion doesn't matter anyway.

>>283981
It is never the end of the story.  You will continually disagree about what made CoTW a failure. We will argue and circle around our arguments until end time. You can't say you have no opinions but have multiple paragraph diatribe about how right you are and how everyone else is wrong and a faggot. Its a great way to "end a story" and not get multiple replies, which is probably what you want.

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>>283981
>A retarded Gen Z faggot affected by "main character syndrome" and down syndrome as well who thinks his retarded opinion reflects the entire world's.
>Nobody cares about Fatal Fury because i said so
The world didn't start the day you were born, you self-centered retard.
People of all ages are still playing classics like Fatal Fury and Metal Slug to this day via emulation, nigger.
People today play older games more often than they ever did in years past.
>Nobody knows Terry Bogard, one of the most popular game characters ever
>Posts a Fatal Fury meme
Get a brain transplant.

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Somehow I feel this thread is missing the gaems for the fightan.

>>283981
>>283998
Get (me), a nigger with old man reflexes who prefers flight simulators and SRB2Kart with most fightan "experience" in the form of testing to see if MAME werks, to play a fightan gaem then, you, you, double Mexicans.

>>283999
>People of all ages are still playing classics like Fatal Fury and Metal Slug to this day via emulation, nigger.
>People today play older games more often than they ever did in years past.
The Retroarch netplay lobby supports this assertion, as do various netplay-focused forks of MAME and other 'cade 'tismulators.
>Nobody knows Terry Bogard, one of the most popular game characters ever
I didn't who Terry was until some time after starting to use imageboards, but I knew pic related long before then.

>>283992
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>>283999
>no arguments
Where is the culture produced by an active fanbase? Where is the fanart? The memes and photoshps? When was the last time you saw any Fatal Fury character so much as acknowledged by anyone for a reference?

Like, seriously, I want to know. The Marvel VS Capcom games have people who don't touch fighting games or the FGC making videos or stuff about them and those have been delisted from storefronts and/or actively abandoned due to rights issues.

>>284001
>get me to play a fighting game with you
Get Concerto and I'll consider making a lobby or something: https://meltyblood.club

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>>284002
>Where is the culture produced by an active fanbase? Where is the fanart? The memes and photoshps? When was the last time you saw any Fatal Fury character so much as acknowledged by anyone for a reference?
What a retarded argument, reminds me of those faggots who think having a vidya poster in their room, buying merchandise, or getting a game tattoo gives them credibility as "gamers".
Real gamers FUCKING PLAY THE GAMES, they don't do photoshops and fanart.
It's like when people years ago used to make those unfunny Senator Armstrong memes, that didn't mean that MGR was that popular, most of the people who did those memes never played the game but just watched some faggot talking about the game on jewtube and jumped on the bandwagon like the sheep they are.

>>284003
>Second pic
Speaking of which, have you seen those shrines people have made dedicated to TLoU games?

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>>284003
>Real gamers FUCKING SIT IN THEIR ROOMS, they don't do anything productive or lasting.
Thank you for proving my point perfectly. You are just as old and out of touch as everyone at SNK. Please kill yourself and stop taking my oxygen.

The Metal Gear Rising memes that you think are meaningless led to one of the biggest waves of popularity and sales the game had outside of its launch window. Is the original "Incorrect Summary of Metal Gear Rising" video cancerous garbage? Yes. But there were a lot of people introduced to MGR and MGS because it existed, and there wasn't a new game being made to cater to these people: they have to drink from the same well as everyone else. Memes and photoshops are effectively advertising through pieces of culture, through memes. Free will is a myth. Religion is a joke.

(You are going to say "wow imagine wanting retarded newfags around" and ignore the previous paragraph.)

Having a poster in your room and buying merchandise is a very direct way to support a developer or a series beyond just putting time into it. The reason you're bringing out this thought-terminating cliche, desperately trying to stop the mental anguish my words are causing you, is because you cannot distinguish between a respectable amount of stuff and a wall full of Funko Pops. The desire to have a poster or a figurine is not bad; it is bad when taking to excess.

This is ignoring the fact nobody fucking plays Fatal Fury, or those who do are simply sitting on Fightcade and not engage with any wider form of culture. People who play Third Strike draw fanart of it all the time and run offline events where players make real personal connections. Nobody has ever done that for Fatal Fury and nobody ever will.

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>>284010
>Memes and photoshops are effectively advertising through pieces of culture, through memes.
No, they're not, because people are buying into the memes more than the actual content, itself. And the developers pick up on this and change the later games to reflect the memes rather than the "very fucking game that the meme comes from. It's like how Doom is now all about "Rip and tear", with all the new fags entering the fandom complaining LITERALLY AND UNIRONICALLY:
<If you don't like 'Rip and tear', then you just hate video games and.
Fuck off with that shit.

>>284010
I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make. That Fatal Fury is just too old it doesn’t deserve to be revived? Maybe but there was genuine interest in the game when it was first announced. Old ips shouldn’t be treated as blockbuster titles that will magically have a guaranteed bonus in sales compared to new ips because of their history. And you’re right in this, it’s why SNK half assed cotw, thinking the FF name still holds weight. They should’ve made it with the mindset of trying to re-establish their lost market. But instead what I get from you is that it shouldn’t be revived in the first place, which applies to some old titles, but no this one really.

>>284018
>But instead what I get from you is that it shouldn’t be revived in the first place, which applies to some old titles
I didn't pick up on that at all, but I see this as a rule that applies to EVERY  piece of media if we're going to discuss this topic.

I'm tired of seeing companies relying upon their "legacy" names to get people interested rather than releasing current products that are actually good and that people want. And this is especially true with companies where the people who made the companies what they are no longer work there. For example, all the people that built up Capcom left to form or work for companies like SNK, Arika, Inti Creates, Dimps, Platinum, and Tango.

>>284018
>I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make.
Then you're illiterate.

The point I'm making, have made, and will continue to make, is that no amount of marketing can save a game that isn't good and that no amount of good gameplay can save a game that people perceive to be not worth their time. The retards I quoted in >>283981 arguing about the roster of 26-year-old arcade games are so far removed from the heart of the matter they're dying of exsanguination. Then you have the replies I got from willfully blind faggots whose memetic immune response clearly shows they've identified me as [OUTGROUP] and therefore everything I say is always [BADWRONG].

Then in >>284019 we reach synthesis where someone takes an idea I stated earlier and presents it in his own words. If idea from [INGROUP] then [GOODRIGHT].

>>284018
>>284019
>>284028
So can we all agree the 新型餓狼伝説 is a 糞野郎伝説 and move on to palying bideo gaemes?

>>284028
>Then in >>284019 we reach synthesis where someone takes an idea I stated earlier and presents it in his own words.
No, it's not. I don't want companies continuing these products because I want media to actually have a fucking conclusion or ending, and then having them moving on to do other things. For example, according to my argument, SNK shouldn't even be continuing King Of Fighters because Nishiyama left to form Dimps over two and a half decades ago (His most recent fighter contributions being Soul Calibur 6 and The Rumble Fish), and Kawasaki hasn't been involved in vidya at all since Metal Slug 7 on the NDS. Meanwhile you're argument is that people largely "don't care" about a series, and THAT'S why they shouldn't be raked through the coals for shitting on the people that are still fans. It's two entirely seperate arguments from one another.

>>284002
How do I set the language to Nipponese?
Setting LANG=ja_JP.utf8 does nothing.

>>284038
>Meanwhile you're argument is that people largely "don't care" about a series
Correct.
>and THAT'S why they shouldn't be raked through the coals for shitting on the people that are still fans.
Incorrect. The only point I ever made was that CotW flopped because both the product and the marketing weren't aligned with the reality that nobody knows or cares about the Fatal Fury series.

>>284043
>hurrr how do i maek 4 lines of text appear in superior folded japp????
What a retarded question. I don't fucking know. Play the game in English. Why does it matter?

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>>284047
>4 lines of text
I tried out the Arcade mode and there were more than 4 lines of text complete with Nipponese voice acting.
>Why does it matter?
I refuse to play a Nipponese game in an inferior language, for such is the way of the gay.

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>>284047
>The only point I ever made was that CotW flopped because both the product and the marketing weren't aligned with the reality that nobody knows or cares about the Fatal Fury series.
And many people have already point out that wasn't the problem. Ignoring my opinions on the matter on what companies should do, City flopped because SNK was making a sequel that appealed to no one. It didn't appeal to the legacy fans with everything from moving away from the 2D sprites to adding in "modern" celeberties. And it doesn't appeal to the "new" fans as it just comes across like a knock-off Street Fighter (Which the series technically is) but with less content. That's not to mention that EVERYONE hates how all modern games are deadset on inserting niggers and unattractive characters everywhere. And the characters that ARE returning look their stunt doubles at best.

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>>284054
>such is the way of the gay
I'm glad you were able to be honest with yourself before pride month ended.

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>>284084
>City flopped because SNK was making a sequel that appealed to no one. It didn't appeal to the legacy fans with everything from moving away from the 2D sprites to adding in "modern" celebrities. 
>That's not to mention that EVERYONE hates how all modern games are deadset on inserting niggers and unattractive characters everywhere. 
Nicely put.
I would argue that B.Jenet looks very good, but damn, that Preacha character is so shit, i don't know WTF were they thinking when they came up with that one.
Not that Vox is much better, as he's generic as fuck.
>And the characters that ARE returning look their stunt doubles at best.
True, Billy Kane's redesign is fucking garbage, and so is Mai's new costume.
Also apparently they are going to give Joe Higashi some shitty nerd glasses for some dumb reason.

I still think that narcissist sociopath football player Ronaldo might be the worst guest character ever in a fighting game or video games period.
His inclusion will also age like milk.

Anyway the hype for a Garou sequel died ages ago, so SNK should have just made a classic Fatal Fury with the superior OG roster instead.

They added three new trials for each character in City of the Wolves when they added Andy, each new trial having at least one feint cancel.

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>>284166
I didn't know that Adult Swim still carried enough about Xavier to have him cameo in a game.

>>284171
Vow. Locked. In!

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>>284166
I'm not quite sure what to think about Elena, because it seems like the way she looks depends entirely on what frame of animation I'm looking at. I got a mod that replaces her default costume hair (in your pic) with her retro costume hair and it honestly makes her face look completely different.

>>284171
If you only knew...

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Thread on the font page!

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>>284184
WAWAWIWA

>>284184
おおーーママ

>>284184
Who's the artist? I reverse searched it but couldn't find anything. It looks too intricate and consistent to be AI.

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>>284166
That's really fucking funny holy shit. What's wrong with this game.

>>284218
It's not AI, but rather something an Anon scanned by himself and uploaded somewhere on the webring ~5 years ago.

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>>284091
>I would argue that B.Jenet looks very good
She grew a man chin which wasn't in KoFXV which is baffling. Tiddies I cannot deny though.
>True, Billy Kane's redesign is fucking garbage, and so is Mai's new costume.
Yeah, Billy is a meth bummed out version of himself and Mai is taking one step closer towards the hijab.
>SNK should have just made a classic Fatal Fury with the superior OG roster instead.
Also to add insult to injury, Kizuna Encounter takes place in southtown in the distant future. So there was an even wider selection of past SNK characters they could have bothered to put in.

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>>284233
>Kizuna Encounter takes place in southtown in the distant future. So there was an even wider selection of past SNK characters they could have bothered to put in.
Now that would be a cool thing to do.
Savage Reign/Kizuna Encounter's characters are far better than Karate Nigger, Vox, or Preacha.
But probably nu-SNK would've butchered them with shitty redesigns

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>>284233
>She grew a man chin which wasn't in KoFXV which is baffling.
That's not a man chin, come on now.
The reason her face looks different, is that since this is set years after Garou, they wanted her to look less like a girl and more like a woman.
>Tiddies I cannot deny though.
Hence why the titties got bigger too.
>>284233
>Yeah, Billy is a meth bummed out version of himself and Mai is taking one step closer towards the hijab.
I agree with these, the only decent redesign so far is Andy Bogard's.
Mai could have got another kunoichi outfit that was different from her classic one, but just as revealing.

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>>284281
>That's not a man chin
Yes, it is.
>The reason her face looks different, is that since this is set years after Garou, they wanted her to look less like a girl and more like a woman.
She's 21 fucking years old!
City takes place two years after MotW. You don't develop the cow udders and thunder thighs of a well endowed mother unless you're been spending all that time...well, actually being a mother and pumping out kids like Japan's future depends on it. Hell, she's more developed than even Mai, who, according to the game's canon, we haven't "seen" in over a decade.

And in case you're trying to argue that the "problem" is the shift to 3D graphics, third pic is from KoFMI2 (2006), fourth pic is from KoF All Star (2018), and fifth pic is from KoF15 (2022).

>>284282
>She's 21 fucking years old!
>he thinks japanese game developers know what ages mean
There's retarded and then there's you.

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>>284289
Anon, if you want to see just how fucked up the 3D models even are, here's Jenet in the game's own opening animation. In fact, nearly ALL of the character look better, with the exception of the two celebs who stand out even more, in the anime opening: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9i3ku2

>>284233
>pic
Ouch.

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>>284282
>She's 21 fucking years old!
>City takes place two years after MotW. 
>And in case you're trying to argue that the "problem" is the shift to 3D graphics, third pic is from KoFMI2 (2006), fourth pic is from KoF All Star (2018), and fifth pic is from KoF15 (2022).
I thought CotW took place MANY years after Garou.
In that case, why they didn't use her KOF XV model instead?
I swear, SNK has the potential to do great things and then they always end up fucking something up.