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Even though sleepy has an /x/, unlike cafe (RIP) I thought it would be a good idea to still have a branch opened here.
>>>/x/
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Guess i will post stuff here, i haven't read much books about the topic but i did find a pretty interesting coincidence in two unrelated cases.
>unlike cafe (RIP)
What do you mean
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>What do you mean
anon.cafe never had an /x/board I meant.
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>anon.cafe never had an /x/board
It did i was the last BO, founder was kind enough to give it and i just put a new theme and banner
Software/cache problems in a downtime deleted some posts in my first days and the few posters left and it never recovered
Last years there's been nothing new outside the drone scare and the grift by some new age congress guys in the US
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>It did i was the last BO, founder was kind enough to give it and i just put a new theme and banner
Dang I had no idea. I don't know how I never noticed it.
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>4th
>all those disappearances at northwestern state borders
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The main topic i always wanted to discuss is UFO/aliums myths, rumors and official stories but mostly their origin, some widely known pictures and stories are still in recent memory but sometimes we lost track on how or when they appeared in the first place.
Back in the 90's this was difficult to known but nowadays we can, supposedly, track it better. I will try once in a while to dig a little.

Right now i was going to post about an old tape i found very endearing back in the day but i stumbled upon a bit of side info and i very highly dislike lurking about this specific kind of stuff at night for retarded reasons, for this one i had to turn the lights on because i kept hearing noises near me lol. Here it is anyway and i will search for some details i recall reading but can't find yet along with other excerpts from the original tape it was released from.
For some reason this got popular in these election times, before that the tape it came from itself was an obscure thing for years.

>>7311
It got culled when the admins said the boards with less activity would get the hammer due to memory reasons, i think around the same months /fascist/ also got the hit.
/x/ was one, it had some discussions, when it jumped to activity that fucking glitch happened and people thought someone or myself were doing some fuckery, i reported it with a screencap to the admins because i had some old tabs open and they acknowledged something happened, also the public logs showed nobody did anything weird. Still the public trust wasn't the same and the few never showed up again but i also don't recall their topics showing up either, the last thread was about Antarctica facilities IIRC.
>>7320
>UFO/aliums myths
Was the end of the Cydonians on Mars a natural event or the work of hostile lmaos/some kind of KV using nuclear warheads instead of speed, perhaps so as not to shatter its target planet thus avoiding major system-wide orbital disruptions?
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I always wonder about some of the rare reports of mechanical type ayys like the Flatwoods monster and the Giants of Vorozneh.
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>natural event or the work of hostile lmaos/some kind of KV using nuclear warheads
Back in the old days there was a piece of information that nowadays is a meme but the soynce audience still doesn't want to discuss it because it's a big can of worms:
Xenon-129 levels in Mars' atmosphere, a paper says "detected pattern of excess abundance of Uranium and Thorium on Mars surface, relative to Mars meteorites, can be explained as due to two large thermonuclear explosions on Mars in the past" and "based on the pattern of thorium and radioactive potassium gamma radiation, the explosions were centered in the Northern plains in Mare Acidalium at approximately 50N, 30W, near Cydonia Mensa and in Utopia Planum at approximately 50N 120W near Galaxias Chaos, both locations of possible archeological artifacts" and by artifacts the writer means the Cydonia face and the patterns similar to the pyramids here, which i think is the Orion belt.
>https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Mars-Xenon-and-Earth-Nuclear-testing-Xe-normed-to-129-Xe-concentration-data-taken-from_fig3_340952315
I haven't read a lot about the hostile limãos but i do remember reading that some NASA fags were still wondering about its moons due to their erratic nature, mostly Phobos, who is very irregular in form, orbits way too close to the planet compared to other moons (every 8 hours, 3 times a Mars day) and has been subject of rampant speculation due to its density, mostly because soviets thought it was hollow and made of a light metal while americans said that was retarded but did find years later that it was porous, around a third of it is hollow. An anon way back said tons of old school physics thought it was an artificial satellite, considering Mars' nuke byproducts perhaps a battle station or sentinel executioner; some media do reference this, Unreal Tournament for example which does reference a lot of that Mars' old civilization things being paraded as props to a massive tech corporation.
More grounded experts still get problems saying it is porous and that it probably is a captured piece of debris from something else nearby, which opens another can of worms with the main belt ring being the remains of something that was blasted hard enough to reach Mars' atmosphere.

Given the whole thing about how long it takes to look like it does today the Cydonians, if they ever existed, were dudes from a long time ago, but then again Mohenjodaro, Chaco Valley, Giza and Cappadocia look like places from too long ago despite supposedly all being from less than 5000 years ago.

>>7330
>Giants of Voronezh
Second topic i will try to discuss, it gets quirky fast
>>7331
>Mohenjodaro, Chaco Valley, Giza and Cappadocia look like places from too long ago despite supposedly all being from less than 5000 years ago.
Even my amateur research has lead me to believe that human or other bipedal intelligent life must be way more ancient than science currently believes. It's a catch-22 however because the only hard evidence we can gather is through the fossil record and the fossil record can only go back so far due to geologic instability.
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Fuck it, there's a crucial website i've been searching more than 10 hours for that i cannot find again so here goes.

In 1997, at the height of the conspiracy/paranoid/UFO craze from that decade the video market got another yoofo tape with a, by then normal subtitle of, real footage of something which in this case was an alium and also a world exclusive first. It was quite popular but faded into obscurity post-9/11 in North America but had a massive surge in other parts of the world around mid-00's, namely central Europe and Latin America. The thing is that the footage itself was quite interesting due to its rawness and small details, and due to the nature of the narrative actively trying to "debunk" the footage while giving it credence at the same time gave it a faux-impartial view that still lingers to this day.

Alien Interview by Rocket Productions, a small-time distributor of TV series and B-movies, got the deal after some dude called Victor, whom many minutes of video nowadays have been made trying to decipher who he is/was, tried to get rid of some tape ASAP while also giving it the chance for it to see the world. A small description on how he got the footage is given but we will go into it later.
The entire tape itself starts with some fluff given by our co-host Steven Williams, a black man because America, about things many people are already iffy about, like the several strong claims by Lazar along with the minor ones proven true (he knew precisely about the black projects routine flight plans in Area 51) along with the whole outlandish Majestic 12 thingie which does not sound that crazy given how that group headed by John Kerry that met in some windowless floor was proven somewhat true, but still too brash and cartoony even for 90's fanatics due to their leaked papers being too explicit and non-technical for such an elite group.
Then some dramatic low-budget re-enactments about what the ET guest tried to say via comments from Mr. Victor, himself widely thought to be on camera a re-enactment too using the body of a collaborator from the movie (Robert Dean) and voiced (with distorter) by his own interviewer who is the director of the whole thing Jeff Broadstreet. The ET words do sound familiar to those who have read or heard about that telepath woman that said aliums nowadays are a new "order" exploring territories and places an older "order" had maintained and tinkered but went absent for some reason, story which usually claims some other things but that i will try to go at in some other post Moon is a machine that distributes souls into Earth's life forms and the whole thing serves as a prison planet experience for some undisclosed reason the newer ETs still weren't sure about
That particular part of these segments (item #3 here) the whole "soul vehicle" and the alium's general intellectual level along with the final comments reminded me way too much of what many "alternative" imageboards users would recall quickly by using a term like Terry Davis' Bird, segment itself which includes a pretty funny personal if dire statement from Victor we are also familiar with in almost any context. 

So far this thing feels like a classic 90's TV documentary, nothing new, but then the real meat of the sandwich appears, after 30 minutes of fanfare and context this footage appears: >>7320

Then a quick recap on what we saw using Victor's words (as we cannot trust the shadowy figure nor distorted voice as his own), in short: An obfuscated room with a non-human intelligence being recorded having a communication session with an interlocutor, a telepath in this case, and an official figure of some sort in charge of recording and asking the questions using some microphone machines over a table along with some fancy dials of unspecified use as physical props, behind them it is thought there was a window with the video recorder and perhaps some other witnesses.
After this the technical opinion segments appear which are the strong part of the movie, in my opinion, along with the footage itself. John Criswell and Sean Baker talk, former was famous for the technical aspects of the Dinosaurs sitcom and overall being an expert in both makeup and animatronics, usually in the TV realm and he was in charge of the alium masks and props, proving he can work in the high, normal and low budget as the masks in this video are stationary/fixed unlike the footage's movable parts of the face; the latter is practically the top-tier of the makeup and animatronic realm or at least the most famous, certainly highly sought-after around that era having participated in Star Wars, Men in Black, Thriller, some Batman, The Grinch, so on and so forth. Both at some point in their careers being tasked to recreate both anal invaders and bigfoot so they are familiar with the process.

Later some analysis by Sean Morton, i think a frequent collaborator of Art Bell, and more of an analysis it is a lore-check to see if it fits and it seems it does. Some other ufologists give their opinions, and other than a particular interesting tidbit of a possibly related event given by the suspiciously-zesty european gentleman Michael Hesseman i think their opinions are mostly lore-checks rather than serious analysis.
There's one that i take much more serious than usual, Whitley Strieber, mainly due to all things i've read from his words no books yet that did strike me as interesting, he didn't show up but the tape put a transcribed statement where he was appalled by how the video portrayed up to a t how those things supposedly move around, while i remember him saying elsewhere those things probably act in another realm not quite physical (and the video does show something clearly exoteric in our own realm) he said whoever hoaxed it knows very, very well how those fellas look and act so the creator of the footage might as well have seen the real thing to know how to recreate it. 
Some more fluff to reflect on life and stuff and it ends. Okay-ish, typical TV stuff, had some maybe unintentional funny moments like that one re-enactment of a completely unmoved G-Man smoking in front of an alien, and the distributor president's demeanor shows he didn't take it that seriously but was on-board for shenanigans.
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Ok, but how is this going to affect us Whites as race? All this time spent discussing schizo garbage could have been put to better use, our race is dying and people like you are responsible.
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To explain perhaps the first and essential question of the footage, the "how", story goes that the subject under the name of Victor smuggled it out of somewhere which he dubbed S4 of the base near Las Vegas, known almost universally as Area 51, noting that said footage came from there, not that he was there. Around the mid-90's it seems a government project to digitalize a bunch of extremely sensitive stock in analog laying around in tapes and other media was started and some technicians in charge of checking the machines doing so, we could deduce Victor was one, were ironically from a way lower security clearance than the content they were transferring and in one occasion we can suppose Victor was startled by the footage and decided to smuggle some of it out.
Implied in the tape that the footage was also not really meant to be in that batch for them as it was the only instance of that kind of thing in the process but Victor quickly stopped commenting on it, i suppose they were transferring footage of experimental fighter or bomber jets and then out of nowhere a fucking alien getting questioned moved this guy's guts.

So the process was to play the footage in its then-current format and pass it on digital using a setup with some recording hardware, either a converter plugged in to the player via video output like our nowadays VHS converters or a tethering camera filming the projection of said media (aka recording goes directly into computer via cable instead of internal memory); the really crucial website i couldn't find was one where some dude had found exactly what machine model the so-called Victor used to transfer the tape into digital format, i recall that machine was pretty expensive back in the day as it was brand new in 1994-1995 and kind of fitted the purposes, and that he found how due to the default bar that outputs into its files which i don't recall was a feature as a time-code or merely just a graphical problem. I think it was the thin white line in the upper part of the frame in the footage, easily seen in the video there.
I think i also recall that machine was capable of output to a compact physical memory format which would explain how it was possible to smuggle stuff out under heavy security measures. 

In the documentary we can see in the video analysis section how the technician did in fact see the video being a conversion from tape, either telecine stock-to-tape-to-digital (3 generations) or tape-to-digital but with the tape being pushed with a dynamic range boost, which he then pushed more in his setup leading to showing details under the shadows like the rest of the thing's body and the uniform of one of the people interrogating the thing, details that ended up being very sought-after but not accessible unless having the Victor tape which already had that visual data crushed due to the conversion, the footage we got has its shadows even more crushed.
He also found discrepancies due to the moire patterns not matching but i think that can be explained by more plausible situations like the scan lines not being there because those weren't the screens but the reflections of them (reflecting on a window?) along with low-light stock not capturing it that well, which he said could very possibly happen and the situation was indeed under considerable low-light.


Okay that was the recap for the tape, these are the things we can take from it but perhaps i conclude things using other stuff i know or have read so i might not be fully unbiased or correct even:
>Officially the first time the footage was seen for a wider audience, at least internationally, aside from that one taping of the program Strange Universe around late 1996 or early 1997, which i don't know if it was aired before or after the VHS release
>Footage was mainstream somewhere around 1997, very tentatively the latter half
>One of the first instances of the Navy/Naval Intelligence being the ones checking on aerial phenomena and weird shit rather than the usual culprits of back then, the Air Force and FBI

Now for the things we can cross-reference nowadays:
>Navy/DNI were in fact the ones checking on aerial phenomena and weird shit since at least the early 90's, explicitly confirmed in several congress hearings
>DNI 27 is code "Yankee White", which is presidential or his aides, info that would be tough to know back in them days
>Digitalization of past items and specialized setups for checking only that data were confirmed many years later, explicitly in the Hillary hearings in congress (item #2 here); also ended up explicitly mentioning the OrCon tag
>Plausibility of tech at hand and smuggling process, along with the story, is pretty high as far as we know but without knowing how they checked people out from those kind of techbro facilities

The interesting tidbit from the european friend of Dorothy, Hasseman, about the 1989 Kalahari Incident opens another big can of mess which does connect this footage into the yoofosphere lore in such a manner that this post will extend quite a lot. To not create suspense as i am starting to dislike leaving anons in cliffhangers the gist of it and from what i've read goes like this:
January 1991 footage "The Interview" (green fella was purportedly 20 months inside a base)  < (sequel of) < May 1989 Kalahari Incident < (visual references) < Socorro, New Mexico Flap of April 1964 (Lonnie Zamora's sighting) < (similar in timeline or visual references) < Voronezh Landing/Soviet Flap of Fall 1989 < (references) < September 1989 Conil sighting in Cadiz, Spain < (visual references) < Ummo Affair

As a personal note i agree with many of the characters in the tape, i want to believe it's a fake due to how brash and direct the portrayal and circumstances are but if it is a hoax then it is the hoaxer's hoax, it's the best there is to the point it's scary and with the years passing nobody has done something as good in terms of quality and if anything cross-referencing it with other events and facts we know it becomes even more convincing in terms of context. But it is an alien getting interrogated in a dark room, it's the opposite of being able to believe something, and the fact it fits perfectly in the UFO grift universe kind of makes it highly suspicious at the same time. 
One of the characters in the movie, artist John Criswell, did later recant his opinion on thinking it was fake because he said he would look like a lunatic if he said he believed it was real after triple-checking it, the reason for thinking that he said was due to the level of tiny details all around the movie which made him wonder how the hell did they do that and how he didn't think it was possible without a big budget and without someone in the team gossiping it to other specialists, leading him to think it would be easier for an alien to be interrogated than an outsider team of animatronics specialists doing something like it for almost no money and while taking perfect care of the setup even if it was darkened (to note he saw the tape with the interrogators and the thing with its body still visible). Many claim the footage is hoax due to "shit puppetry" being obvious but i don't know, other than them trying to find human movements into something not supposed to be human i think they also don't know or haven't seen puppetry nor its traditional rules, also the fact that an expert in puppetry animatronics would in theory not be an amateur controlling it or at least know when it's looking good or not, plus hand puppetry is massively harder when considering the fascia piece is also emoting tiny muscles and excreting liquids from several parts.
One thing's for sure, if it is a hoax it was done with the utmost detail and by someone or some group who were very well-read, had money to spare and not claim credit for the advanced animatronics, didn't attempt to do it again despite commercial success and nobody has been able to recreate it convincingly. The fact Rocket Productions' president does hint he doesn't care if it is real or not but the quality of it evokes a "what if" does somewhat tick me it was an intentional project that ended with a masterpiece in the found footage genre, but even if that's the case it's worth to point it out because it did hit the nail with the military details of that era which i guess isn't that hard to hide if we consider Hollywood and the glowniggers are connected and could've shared some technicals, after all that's how some movies get some ideas from.

Also to note is the recent surge of it, i thought i was a cool guy for mentioning all the time but since the pandemic this footage is even more famous than the autopsy, i guess that was always the case in my region but the americans and euros have found renewed interest for it. A channel i found on Rumble, which does look like the work of a loonie man that sees details in places where they probably aren't, still did a great job pinpointing visual narrative clues in the footage that showcase perfectly what Criswell said: It has too many details to be rehearsed both by the puppet and by non-actors who should be more worried about the animatronic puppet in the spotlight, all in one continuous 3-minute cut.
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not reading all that UT 2004 and CS were peak FPS gaming tho

>>7320 does anyone seriously think this doesn't look like a mask or puppet? What inevitably gives it away, or at least puts it into the uncanny valley for me, is the bobble head motion where the head is pivoting on a single point (as you'd expect in a puppet) rather than on a neck with multiple moving joints. Also the blacked out room make it all highly suspect.
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>>7360
>puppet
While you're right about the neck joint being odd, the ayy's movements do bear a strong resemblance to people with inner ear/brain/muscle problems or otherwise degraded motor controls, who knows how well suited the supposed lmao's anatomy was to earth gravity or if it wasn't barely conscious/drugged up during the whole ordeal.
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>at least puts it into the uncanny valley for me
I mean, it's supposed to represent an alium
>head is pivoting on a single point rather than on a neck with multiple moving joints
It is highly suspect but when the light appears on the torso it does move the shoulder but might be a doctor moving it from behind. Thing might also move like birds do.
>does anyone seriously think this doesn't look like a mask or puppet?
Many do, i kinda do but the face feature movements like mouth and brows is quite the money back then and the whole pouring liquid from orifices means it was a top-tier puppet for such a small-scale production.
>First spoiler
Should i post about the other events related?

>>7332
"Normal" people doing "normal" things definitely goes way back than Sumeria, supposedly in Ukraine there's hints of a fishing culture with nets, boats and all around 15 to 20k years ago, and one of the methods to date stuff using carbon is from parts that we now suspect where recent fixes, if you used plaster samples from inside walls or inner joints then perhaps the dating would be more specific.
Also dogmatism, saying Indian White House ruins or Mohenjodaro are 6000yo is a sure way to get banned from hearings, let alone saying the Sphinx has water damage and predates most pyramids.
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>degraded motor controls
Can't say anything as to this but another thing that stands out is how the whole figure "floats" instead of supporting itself on limbs and transferring weight inb4 antigravity go brrrr
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>it was a top-tier puppet
No doubt it's well done but the dark room, no sound track and potatoVHS quality tape are all doing some heavy lifting here I think.
The guy earlier states the room was dark for the ayyy's comfort yet it hardly seems to react to a flashlight directly in its face/eyes.
Reminded me of the famous 1967 bigfoot video, it always looked uncomfortably legit until the frame stabilized edit was done, the motion gives it away I think.
>spoiler
yes but may I suggest a brief summary and citing sources
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>Spoiler
Sure thing, last case i supposed the sources were the VHS itself and the videos, Kalahari has PDFs but honestly the case feels too explicit, by that i mean it doesn't feel like actual military papers but something someone invented. Also citing that kind of stuff invariably ends with non-official sources most of the times.
>Summary
That was my first intention but got carried away, in theory it is there but i didn't put in a spotlight:
>An obfuscated room with a non-human intelligence being recorded having a communication session with an interlocutor, a telepath in this case, and an official figure. Tape ends with humanoid having an ill-health episode.

>dark room, no sound track and VHS quality tape are all doing some heavy lifting here I think
No doubt but it fits, in long series of footage you would usually use tape or 8mm film rather than good 16 or 35mm film, no soundtrack due to hiding identities plus the thing doesn't talk after all and glowniggers work in the dark anyways, the flashlights were to check the nostrils and mouth AFAIK. It's way too convenient but it does fit, i would argue more with the frail neck moving such a big head while also being terminally ill.
>the motion gives it away I think
I don't know man, the stabilization made the gait be studied more in-depth and it isn't easy at all to pull, it walks downwards with a flat foot and bent knees.
Also falls into the budget/craft hole, if it was done by Patterson then the guy was one of the greatest costume makers ever... then again he lived nearby Hollywood... then again Hollywood couldn't recreate the thing twice and even Rick Baker couldn't for a couple of movies due to the gait itself and the fatty parts moving along the robust muscley parts, it's just too complex.
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>VHS itself
Found the full thing here: https://archive.org/details/area-51-the-alien-interview-1997
>it's just too complex.
Exactly - Occam's razor. Simplest explanation is a heavy set fella sheathed in thin fur overalls, the gait/muscle/fat looked natural because it literally was?
Just because it's tricky to replicate does not imply it was an elaborate costume, on the contrary it might be a very simple costume with the (alleged) actor's physique contributing all the features. We also need to be weary of survivor bias - we're talking about the best (or rather luckiest) examples here, all the less-than-stellar hoax attempts have been long forgotten.
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>Found the full thing here
Did you want it? man i need to get good, i had that whole thing sitting beside me. Guess i will have to cite sources like i did in college.
>Exactly - Occam's razor. Simplest explanation is a heavy set fella sheathed in thin fur overalls
I think i am falling for Criswell's idea, simplest explanation in terms of Patterson's Bigfoot, given the complexity in both having a 7'0'' fit dude who knows how to do and perform a counter-intuitive gait in forest terrain while also using the very best gorilla nigger costume the world has ever seen, is that it was a Bigfoot itself rather than the combination of all of those things.
>all the less-than-stellar hoax attempts have been long forgotten.
Or hidden, trail camera monitors once in a while caught giant dudes wearing fur in the middle of nowhere and it gets algorithm-raped into obscurity despite being great hoaxes/real thing.
Looking back at some of the African Kangdoms and pre-Columbian American civilizations that arose and collapsed in relatively recent times makes me wonder how frequently this happened during mankind's "primitive" eons until "stabilizing" in the last 5-10k years.
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I have just assumed that this was a thing for a while now. I think it's very likely that there may have been relatively advanced pocket civilizations for tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years now.

Makes you wonder about before humans too. Could there have been some Snootlantis 70 million years ago filled with raptors?
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Is there any evidence of a pre-human civilization existing?
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Plenty of evidence of human civilization existing before the Younger Dryas.
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I'd like to hear more about this.
Have the US chair farce/army/navy ever conducted sekrit experiments involving neutralization of rotor blade noise?
When I was a kid I once saw CH-47(?) fly by at low altitude without making a single sound, the perceived speed and slow descent making autorotation unlikely.
Helis are noisy and Chinooks especially so this was rather strange.
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>>7331
>>Giants of Voronezh
>Second topic i will try to discuss, it gets quirky fast
Don't forget about this storytime strelok.

>>7594
I remember back in the 90s silent black helicopters were talked about a lot. Eapecially in connection to the MIBs.
>Have the US chair farce/army/navy ever conducted sekrit experiments involving neutralization of rotor blade noise?
I half think one of the X planes was suppose to be some sort of stealth helicopter but maybe I'm misremembering.
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>>7594
>When I was a kid I once saw CH-47(?) fly by at low altitude without making a single sound
No shit? I also did one time on one of my walks home from school, well maybe not actually without any sound though I don't really remember, but I didn't live near a military base or anything like that at the time I think so I wouldn't know what the fuck it was doing there so close to the ground in the burbs.
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>>7597
that guy is totally spraying fart juice on those people LOL
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>>7390
I remember some haplogroup maps showing isolated islands or trail-less circumstances that don't make sense unless we go way back to the point it destroys current academia.
2 parts i remember are an usually euro haplogroup in a big triangle above Cameroon, Nigger and Niggeria that has no reason to be there, the other one is the famous Haplogroup X that, in theory, could explain the presence of some group that worked in the North American Great Lakes producing copper and having some of their wares inside Ancient Egyptian tombs.
Then there's the Olmec ancestors, the Anasazi, the Mount Builder civilization, the Cappadocian natives and the whole story about the ancient indus civs riding flying castles.

>>7594
>>7599
Didn't the U.S. fly a "secret black helicopter" into Bin Laden's crib?
The only strange thing i've seen was a smallish, long dark helicopter flying very low (10 meters above ground) with no lights over a poorfag residential area at almost midnight the same days when the "chinaman spy balloon" was flying. Thing is our local cops don't have helicopters and our feds only have big ass Mi-17's and Black Hawks, and that wasn't either of them. We only saw it due to the noise so i am sure it was a heli.
>Don't forget about this storytime strelok.
I'll get to it then, got carried away with vidya and writing Voronezh gets long due to the symbol the kids saw, interestingly not mentioned often by paranormal fags nowadays because they are posers who don't read.
>>7599
When I was young I lived near a fairly active NATO airbase with frequent low-altitude fighter flybys that reached peak intensity sometime in August 2001 yet dropped sharply after 9/11, and while military helicopters were a less common sight I did see and hear Chinhooks fly by at low altitude at one point even conducting some kind of rappeling exercise in plain view of my school, wtf so I know for a fax their engines are easily audible from a kilometer or more.

What's weird about the mystery Chinhook(?) is that it not only had either twice the regular amount of navigation lights than a regular aircraft wouldn't have been able to see the characteristic humps otherwise as the sun had already set or some esoteric landing light config on top of flying right towards the centre of a decently-sized city that in itself had and still does have a highly active commercial airspace.
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In my readings it seems 2012, 2020, March 2025 and 2030/2047 get repeated
Well, it's that time of the month again and the last notable one at least
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>>8140
Say that once the month has passed in full.
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>>8145
Curiously enough the supposed original intention of the group that organized that "protest" was environmental and they had a couple of specific goals regarding european energy politics, yesterday out of nowhere UK abided to one of the goals explicitly, an english gtoup that was supposedly involved in the media stunt dissolved after meeting their demands.
Perhaps it was all a globohomo stunt but it does coincide with a bunch of interesting events like Iran feeling the US too close, EU being against the US and a tariff war.
I was just outside and I saw the fuckiest thing. It was like a string of pearls in orbit, moving pretty fast. Space station or some satellite hasn't broken up has it? It was too slow for meteors unless they were actually in a temporary orbit.
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>>8452
Sounds like Elmo's space internet. I've seen them a couple of times, considering how's many satellites they launched I thought they'd be visible more often. I guess due to low orbit they don't catch the sun as often.
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