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Israel denied they are behind the exploding pagers, so it was just a coincidence after all.

>>4489
Didn't they confirm it the other day? Did they suddenly realize that they did a terrorist and now they are trying to distance themselves?

Israel is now expelling journalists from Al Jazzera in the deep West Bank because they are not allowed in Israel, thinly veily confirming new land grabbling while naive students in the western hemisphere get shocked

>>4490
I think they did, but the president went and denied it.
My favorite part was watching all the Israel drones cheer for how cool and great the mossad is for orchestrating such a pin point strategy (you know, the guys who completely missed the October 7 attack).
Now I guess we are supposed to believe they didn't, Israel needs to make up their minds about how they want to be perceived.

>>4503
>Israel needs to make up their minds about how they want to be perceived.
They want to be perceived as both. Evil masterminds to their enemies and harmless victims exercising self-defense to their allies. They rely on creating doubt via conflicting narratives to achieve this.

Damn, learn the jew tricks already. They are tired as fuck by now.

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See that house? Bomb.
That appartment? Also bomb.

I fully expect thread #3 to be called the Israel-Hamas-Hezbollah-Iran Slapfest Thread and thread #4 will just be called the WWIII Thread.

>>4490
>Didn't they confirm it the other day?
When? All news is saying that they know Israel did it because some officials from other countries said Israel did it, not because anyone in Israel announced the deed themselves.

>>4527
I wish, if nothing happens and Israel annexes the entire Palestine, Lebanon and the Golan Heights i can fully expect the Greater Israel thing to happen soon, nothing and nobody wants to stop them it seems.
And to be fair it's mostly the nuclear-capable U.S. forces nearby that make that happen as deterrent force. Also funny how people defended the war as an operation against Hamas and now against Hezbollah even when the operatives are a minority of the civilians bombed.
A war in Asia would only confirm a WWIII, American continent usually doesn't have those when a world affair happens.

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The chinks pinkie promise they will never do a terror attack on the muslims.

Has anything more than border skirmishes and rocket flinging actually happened yet?

>>4543
>annexes Lebanon
That has never happened and will not. If Israel didn't try after stomping Arabs in the country at the height of the cold war, why would they try now?

>>4547
If you actually read history then you'd expect nothing. What Iran learned after fighting against Iraq is that they'll never win an outright war so they don't try starting one.

>>4549
>If you actually read history then you'd expect nothing. What Iran learned after fighting against Iraq is that they'll never win an outright war so they don't try starting one.
Iran is not the instigator of this conflict though. Israel is.

>>4550
>Iran is not the instigator of this conflict though
Why does that even matter, the Iran-Iraq was was instigated by Iraq.

>Israel is.

>be Lebanese government
>let a foreign military store weapons into your citizens' houses
>let them fire rockets to a 3rd country in your own territory
>3rd country strikes back to the foreign military plus their hardware
<"help 3rd country is starting a war with us!"

For all the noise of misdirection being a "Jewish" tricks, the rest of the muslim semites do love it.

>>4551
Sorry but I will not let you misdirect this discussion with such simple tricks.

>>4549
>If Israel didn't try after stomping Arabs in the country at the height of the cold war
They did, hence the occupation by the Syrian Army until 2006 (along with some Jordanian patrols) and guess what, Israel attacked again after they left plus Second Intifada.

>>4553
>They did,
Not the entire country, and that's the point. They only counterattacked at regions where the attackers operate.

>Israel attacked again after they left
Because their departure gave Hezbollah room to breathe who immediately fired rockets Israel?

>>4558
>and that's the point
Nice goalpost moving bro
>Because their departure gave Hezbollah room to breathe
They were always there, nice try again
>immediately fired rockets
After the Leb premier got bombed which made the Syrian Army get out due to people thinking it was them which led to Israeli bulldozing and making silly lebs realize perhaps it wasn't the syrians.

>>4563
>Nice goalpost moving bro
The goal has always been about refuting this
>Israel annexes the 'entire' Palestine, Lebanon and the Golan Heights

>They were always there, nice try again
Who are you even referring by "they" in your previous post, because by that I meant the Syrians. Did you just realize you contradicted yourself?

>and making silly lebs realize perhaps it wasn't the syrians.
And guess what, it was Hezbollah who killed Hariri. Looks like Israel went there for self defence and taking care of its neighbor's problem at once.

>>4564
Fuck off kike.

>>4566
I know it sucks to be a loser for almost 8 decades in a row, but that isn't a good excuse to be a sore loser, Ahmed.

>>4570
That nose is too small.

>>4564
>The goal has always been about refuting this
Which is bad at this moment because they only need Lebanon now when one year ago it was silly to think Golan would be downright ignored and Palestine needed a bunch of decades to bulldozer.
>self defence and taking care of its neighbor's problem at once.
>Hezbollah did Hariri
Nice try kike

>>4574
>Which is bad at this moment because they only need Lebanon now when one year ago
And that is a firm sign that Israel isn't an omnipotent irredentist actor like this board claims. It knows it should not conquer a country whole even for its own survival.

>Nice try
Hariri was against Syrian occupation that helped Hezbollah plant their feet deeper into the country, why wouldn't Hezbollah be after him?

You know the other side has lost when it has no argument and resorts to namecalling instead.

>>4573
Fucking how.
>its the only oiler in the theatre
FUCKING HOW

>>4582
Pie-in-the-sky "I don't need logistics to win, I have TECHNOLOGY" thinking coupled with the rotten body of a dying empire.

>>4570
Miku says free Palestine and Israel has the right to exist.

>>4582
Because there are ports around the gulf where the ships can resupply? 
The US went to middle east wars since at least the Gulf War to protect their Arabian allies, letting them buy oil and repair ships on their land is the least the Arabs to do in return.

>>4573
>US Navy Oiler
>Everyone isspeaking Spanish
lol

>>4573
Funny thing, supposedly that rudder is pretty hard to damage by accident. Was it already sinking from something else...?

>>4605
>is the least the Arabs to do in return.
I don't think that's the least they can do, especially when the so-called help has made the place as bad as when the crusades were in their height

>>4573
>US Navy ship
>no US flag visible
>Ukrainian flag prominent
Is that legal?

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>>4623
I will make it legal.

>>4621
>especially when the so-called help has made the place as bad 
The cold war and Arab-Iranian rivalry wrecked the region. The US had to attack some hostile Arab countries like Syria & Iraq to protect Kuwait & Saudi and other friendlies. Even to the point of creating ISIS.

Houthies have started firing missiles at Tel Aviv.

>>4638
They announce that like there was even the tiniest shadow of a doubt that the US wouldn't pass it.

>>4645
Today's missiles were intercepted outside of Israel. G*d forbid I'm losing any sleep until the hollercaust anniversary.

>>4644
Of course not goyim, she is all natural.

>>4641
>The cold war wrecked the region
I agree if we mean Israel being a hub for US activities in the area, along with Turkey, but the whole shitflinging started with the Balfour paper and the House of Saud who was a cryptojew (as per Irak's decade-long research) appropriating neutral pilgrimage land.
Then the real deal happened with Nasser and Pan-Arabism, which led to the guy dying out of nowhere and leaders becoming less united but more radicalized. I don't think Israel as it stands today would've existed with a panarabian military union, so Nasser had to go and if we believe Mossad was behind then yeah, most everything started due to the jews.
Sooner or later something would've happened in the region but as it stands today it was mostly anglos letting the jews get their way in. I don't think things would've gone out of hand if the world had let those sand people alone, i mean as long as Persia and Sauds have not gotten any nukes in this hypothetical reality.

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Hezbollah has been getting rekt so far. So much for the axis of resistance.

>>4656
...According to Israel, one of participants in the conflict, without any solid proof.
As believable as Ukrainian claims.

>>4568
I'm not him or an arab I just don't like zionists and never will.

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>>4664
sure thing buddy

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>>4669
RIP

>>4652
>I agree if we mean Israel being a hub
By that I mean Soviets triggering revolutions against relatively stable pro-US monarchies in Iraq, Syria and Egypt, installing republics with silly socialist ideals that continue to impoverish the populace and turn them into deranged Jihadists for 70 years. 
Syria has been surviving off drug trade and is actively sending refugees to some its neighbors.
Egypt is edging in the constant state of bankruptcy despite owning the gateway between Europe and Asia.
Iraq had the 4th biggest military despite almost becoming a failed state.
All three had and still has strong relations with Russia, did military campaigns and had worked against US allies in the regions. It is no wonder that the US actively work in the middle east with the kingdoms' support.

The Israelis taking land from Palestine is nothing more than an issue the Soviets, and now Russia, dangling over the heads of these Arab republics and Iran to trigger revolutions against Arab kingdoms who were evidently less sympathetic.

>Then the real deal happened with Nasser and Pan-Arabism
Which is one of the head-in-the-cloud projects any dictators will undertake when economy goes tank that anyone on ground can see failing. Egypt had too little time taking care of Syria even after uniting with it, why would 5 more Arab kingdoms with sound capitalist economies would give up their power and stability for a socialist state?

>I don't think Israel as it stands today would've existed with a panarabian military union
As realistic as the notion that Haiti will go to a war against the US. Speculate all you want, it isn't happening.

>but the whole shitflinging started with the Balfour paper 
Which was itself triggered by Ottomans who insisted to go to a war against the British instead of taking care of Arabs, their own subjects who already demonstrated signs of mutiny.

>the House of Saud who was a cryptojew (as per Irak's decade-long research) 
How does that even matter, they are all Semites, distant relative to Jews.

>appropriating neutral pilgrimage land.
Lel. The pilgrimage lands Mecca and Medina had been under Ottomans' rule for 400 years before local Arab rulers fought for it.
You clearly have no contextual understanding of history. Go fellate a pair of hammer and sickle before your Mongoloid puppeteers.

>>4668
Sure, let's see how you like all the Jews in Israel emigrating to your shithole, creating powerful businesses and getting into important government posts, which your fellow citizens will eventually submit to.
The Balfour declaration was Brits' solution to that problem.

>>4676
But that already happened

>>4677
If that already happened, then there would be no Jews in Israel. Can you read? Oh wait, /k/unts don't read, they just repost Facebook clips.

If you're saying Jews (irrespective of their origin) already rules your country, then the addition of Jews from Israel will worsen it.

>>4678
>>4676
Okay so the jews are evil. I already knew that and certainly don't want more of them in the world. What is your point?

>>4679
>Okay so the jews are evil
Being competent ≠ Being evil

>>4683
You can be both.

>>4675
Pretty sure Jihadism is a Saudi- US invention.

>>4676
The Balfour decleration was a fuck off document that was only signed because of powerful zionists lobbying for it. You seem to have it backwards.

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>>4690
Ottomans had called all muslims worldwide to do Jihad against the Brits and her allies. It is an ancient call of duty which the Semites freely use in their own wars, in history and contemporary settings. Maybe try reading history before falling into Twatter conspiracy theories.

>>4692
Yes I'm aware but the modern political form is something that was cultured and funded as an anti-soviet tool.

Salifism that's the one.

No it wahhabism that's the Saudis baby.

>>4689
Competing for land and other resources is what living being does. This conflict isn't any different.

>>4691
>The Balfour decleration was a fuck off document that was only signed because of powerful zionists lobbying for it. 
In exchange for economic and political support that the Brits needed to break the stalemate against the Ottoman close to the gulf.

>You seem to have it backwards.
The sentence had no implication of what caused the declaration to come into being, it simply is a statement that Brits had multiple intentions with it.

>>4693
>>4694
>>4695
You don't read history, you lack reading comprehension and can't even make up your mind before hitting the enter button. I'd tell you to go back to 4chan but even it has captcha to prevent what you just did. Go to Gaia or something.

>>4696
You really are an active kike shill. No wahabbism has been nurtured as an anti soviet tool and the jews were not instrumental at all in breaking the ottomans. Carving up  Palaestine was considered the moment war was declared.

Also zionists have no claim to the lands and the naked land grabbing and murder isn't justifiabl.

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>>4697
>No wahabbism has been nurtured as an anti soviet tool 
Doesn't make sense when it existed long before Soviets do. How would you reconcile that assertion with the fact that Wahhabists once tried to seize Mecca from Sauds?

>the jews were not instrumental at all in breaking the ottomans.
Then why did the Brits create a Jewish WWI legion to fight independently of Arabs and accept Jewish money during the war?

>Also zionists have no claim to the lands 
Same reasoning why Iraqis, Turks and Iran should have no claim over Kurdish territories which are thousand times than that of Israel, but no one cried about it but Kurds.

>You really are an active kike shill.
We know you're just spouting lies all the time, Hamid.

Oh and one more thing.

>>4698
> the naked land grabbing and murder isn't justifiabl.
Tell that to the Puccians and their Mongoloid brethren on the next thread.

>>4699
I didn't say they created wahabbism just funded and nutured it for their own political ends. Again one legion and some money is not instrumental. I notice you don't acknowledge the fact that zionist elements were looking to get hold of Palestine as soon as the war started. I don't really care about your whataboutism like that somehow justifies what Israel is doing.

>>4702
>I didn't say they created wahabbism just funded and nutured it for their own political ends.
And that still doesn't make sense since Wahhabists went against the hand that supposedly feed them. Sauds do not use Wahhabists as a tool.

>Again one legion and some money is not instrumental. 
That one legion who actually fought like an actual military unlike Lawrence's Arabian allies who mostly sabotage Ottomans' equipment and rarely go to battles. That ability alone is crucial in a situation where Brits had to sponsor many tribes while fighting over multiple fronts.

>I notice you don't acknowledge the fact that zionist elements were looking to get hold of Palestine as soon as the war started.
And how is that bad? Some kind of minority wants a patch of land to own and live in instead of being a pet minority in many foreign countries that is used by the locals to do dirty work and be disposed of just a few decades later.

>I don't really care about your whataboutism like that somehow justifies what Israel is doing.
People go to wars against other people for reasons all the time and somehow Israel is demonized by 80 years for taking a patch of land so small that it's comparable to a minor industrial city in China. Someone has to point out the hypocrisy. Maybe give the Kurds more land before PKK murders another Fatma.

>>4704
And let's not forget that there are no other places where the Jews have any connection with but Palestine.

>>4704
They actively do use and fund wahabbists. Again no the legion was not the only thing holding that front together and for the rest of that stuff I'm not doing the whole minimizing and whataboutism I told you I don't care.

>>4706
>Again no the legion was not the only thing holding that front
Sure but they all work in concert. Without Arabs the Jews would fight Ottomans at their best logistic support and without the Jews there are significantly less people engaging in decisive direct combat against Ottomans. The Brits know they needed as much help as possible and that is why they made vague promises to multiple tribes.

>I told you I don't care.
Neither I should care about your shady statements of what Sauds did and your moral arguments against resource war in a war forum but here I am. Enver, admit it, you lost and can't write anything of value.

>>4707
You're the only one trying to morally justify Israels actions and I don't really agree to this being a resource war, this looks like it's ideologically driven more than anything. Hell even you flip flopped between it being rightful jewish clay to it just being about resources.

I guess only one tribe had the power to hold the british government to those vague promises mind.

>>4708
>You're the only one trying to morally justify Israels actions
Of course I'm alone in a sea of sandniggers whining about not being able to win a war against a tiny tribe with far superior numbers. I say if the Arabs can't win the land they don't deserve it.

>Hell even you flip flopped between it being rightful jewish clay to it just being about resources.
Neither of them denies the war being about land ownership. See this is how you fail in logic.

>>4710
It is but it's not the causing factors of the dispute which is what I was stabbing at. I mean you could argue it's at base always ideological or practical concerns that forment disputes but I don't think that's the case. 
As for the whole might makes right sort of thing I'm sure you wouldn't accept that as a justification for every unfortunate event that has ever befallen the jews.

I should have worded that first part better but what I'm saying is what at root caused this war was not the practical of resources but the ideoligcal of assumed inheritance of the land.

>>4711
Your statement of "Zionists did [thing], they're not allowed to and should not exist" is flimsy. I don't mean to show support but Zionism is just a natural extension of nationalism which is inevitable. 
If Serbs triggered a world war because they wanted to split a foreign Empire into two for their own survival, why wouldn't Jews try the same?

>>4713
I wasn't aware jews were under existential threat. That seems even more of a flimsy statement. As for shouldn't exist all I've had to say on the subject is I don't like zionists and never will. I don't think Israel's actions can be justified under the banner of autonomy and comparing one serb that lit a powder keg to the protracted project of zionism is just disingenious. 

Anyway enough venting into e-space.

>>4714
>I wasn't aware jews were under existential threat.
If you weren't so dense then you'd notice the Jews were already aware that the thin ice they've been walking on since Romans spread them all over Europe isn't getting any thicker since the Dreyfus affair.

>As for shouldn't exist all I've had to say on the subject is I don't like zionists and never will
We know, Abdul. No amount of reason and fact will convince /k/unts.

> comparing one serb that lit a powder keg to the protracted project of zionism is just disingenious. 
That one serb worked alongside a secret society. 
If you really insist on comparison, scale wise yes they are far different. The protracted project is Zionism, if it actually was, is something that should be well within expectation since the Jews were spent over under foreign rule 4 times the duration the Serbs did. For all that time spent they only triggered wars against their weak Arab neighbors, not Europeans that has the capacity to blow the earth.
But the point stands; the Serbs did something outrageous for their own benefit and somehow got what they wanted, it follows that the Jews (and really, all nations that were under colonialism too) would try the same even at a micro scale.

>>4715
>since the Jews were spent over under foreign rule 4 times the duration the Serbs did.
*since the Jews spent over 4 times the time Serbs live under foreign rule.

I should sleep.

>>4675
>installing republics with silly socialist ideals 
None survived that past 2 years, see Algeria, they used commies as stooges.
>why would 5 more Arab kingdoms with sound capitalist economies would give up their power and stability
Military alliance, not economical. Would've mattered, as things have gone.
>As realistic as the notion that Haiti will go to a war against the US
More like the entire latin american region against the US, probably a lost cause for the spics anyway but still a dangerous game by numer of grunts only.
>Which was itself triggered by Ottomans
They didn't write the paper
>How does that even matter, they are all Semites
If you do not know how that even matters then you are not apt to have this conversation, you are nigger brained and do not understand arabs have this hardcoded religion chip into the race/ethnicity card. You don't understand the context either.

>>4720
>None survived that past 2 years, see Algeria, they used commies as stooges.
So you're ignoring Baathism entirely which wrecked the Iraq and Syria. Good job understanding what socialism is, Nasser.

>Military alliance, not economical. Would've mattered, as things have gone.
Get off that Arab cool-aid, Egypt and Syria were both socialists thanks to Soviets' influence and Gamal was personally leading the union. Any countries wishing to join the union would have to stoop down to the same level as an impoverished Egypt by adopting socialism or Egypt will lose the throne of leadership.

>They didn't write the paper
Splendid job at forming moral values. 
"I wouldn't have gotten shot by the owner of the house I just broke in had he not picked up a gun". Genius.

>f you do not know how that even matters then you are not apt to have this conversation,
You should say that to yourself when you don't even know how those countries work. As long as the word "cryptojew" doesn't make it into Oxford or Merriam you'd freely redefine what that means. I ain't jumping into your stupid game and have you set up stupid rules.
Nigger isn't much of an insult when actual african negroes understand this matter better than you, the same reason why they don't do anything for Palestine.

>>4720
Also,

>hardcoded religion chip into the race/ethnicity card
If that matters much then Black September wouldn't be a thing. But guess what, just because your neighbor lost a home doesn't make them entitled to have your home and kill your family's breadwinner.
Sane Arabic countries wouldn't actually lend too much help for the Palestinians, because they know Palestinians can't be fully trusted. 

And finally, your statement won't explain why ISIS was created under Sauds' and Israelis approval. They both have a common enemy and religion won't get in their way.

>>4721
>>4722
>So you're ignoring Baathism
Read the difference between communists and socialists, and then read the problem with Algeria in its first years, then read Gaddafi's entire backtrack on communism, then read Saddam's party backtrack on it too, and then come back

>>4723
>Read the difference between communists and socialists
Convince me Ahmed, they are all failing economic systems and everyone practicing whichever variant will dig a hole they can't ever crawl out of. Like Puccia and China are.
Do your own homework because I'm not impressing your Soviet overlords in your place.

4 Arabs and 1 "kike" in a debate. The "kike" won with most argument unchallenged. The Yom Kippur war repeats itself.

>>4725
>4 Arabs and 1 "kike"
You are fighting first and foremost a self-made delusion that there's 4 arabs here, and that in one instance his/my bosses are "soviets" thus implying i get paid for it.
Win that battle and then come back

>>4721
>>4723
I'm imagining two arab men arguing with each other and calling each other arab insults at a table and its so fucking funny for some reason cause i didn't bother reading more than the first 4 words

>>4727
I like that video of two nondescript sandniggers arguing during a video call and both start attacking their phones.

>>4726
>You are fighting first and foremost a self-made delusion that there's 4 arabs here
Says the guy who called his opponent a kike.

>Win that battle and then come back
Funny, it's you that needs to start pointing out which of your own argument stay unchallenged. Telling people to read a book isn't one.

Funny how Jews are going all in and have given orders to all their shabbos goyim to:
1. agree with and support Israel blindly
2. damage companies and their own brands to maximize woke propaganda
3. fire as many people as possible to hasten the next necessary crisis that will serve as both a smokescreen and an excuse to use public and private wealth as collateral against the payment of the debts

Expect more and more censorship about Israel and whatever goes on around Jerusalem because they absolutely want to finish building their third temple before 2028, which implies destroying the other mosque. Something the Saudi will be chill against all supposed sound logic.

>>4704
>And how is that bad? Some kind of minority wants a patch of land to own and live in instead of being a pet minority in many foreign countries that is used by the locals to do dirty work and be disposed of just a few decades later.
If you're talking about jews you're lying since jews want to control the world, Israel will just be their main headquarters but they will remain implanted in nearly all countries around the world.
>People go to wars against other people for reasons all the time and somehow Israel is demonized by 80 years for taking a patch of land so small that it's comparable to a minor industrial city in China. 
It's because jews pass themselves as victims when they are the vilest people on the entire planet and they organize the destruction of all other nations they are firmly implanted in, namely Western nations, with immoral foreign wars, slavery through debt, demographic genocide and promotion of degeneracy. They deserve all the hatred they can possibly get, and more.
Israel also is a massive hub of organ smuggling. The whole country is a cesspit that deserves being erased forever.
>>4705
They don't want a little patch of it, they want all of it and more, liar. You yids want Eretz Yisrael which extends way beyond the territorial bullshit that you claim is a historical basis to make a claim on a specific area of estate in the Levant. You rats won't get to do complete your Tikkun Olam, the planet will be repaired and rendered better by eradicating the vermin you are. The only midwits who love you are money whores who crave your shekels and retards who you have successfully brainwashed. Anyone else hates you.

>>4715
Yeah not going to agree, and you can keep calling me an arab if it makes you feel better. And no your own neuroticismis not an agrument for genocide.

>>4731
Your 9gag level conspiracy theories aren't even worth debunking. Try posting some proof.

>They don't want a little patch of it, they want all of it and more, liar. You yids want Eretz Yisrael 
Yet they returned Sinai to Egypt after winning it for a peace negotiation.  
And Israel released Gaza back to Palestinians after several years of conquering it during the 20th century. If they are as evil as you'd accuse them to be, they'd keep the land and just beg US to nuke everything that refuse.

If expanding territory is their objective, this war wouldn't have started. 

> You rats won't get to do complete your Tikkun Olam,
And no one cares. Just because something is written in your holy book doesn't mean anyone will carry it out. That'll be like accusing every muslim to have a weapon strapped on their chest ready to kill any infidel nearby or accusing every european of spreading christianity by force wherever they go. 

You internet arabs are so obsessed with religion to even notice people want to prioritize survival on earth.

>>4737
>And no your own neuroticismis not an agrument for genocide.
Getting massively owned in a war (You) started isn't a genocide, it's called defeat. 

Also defining genocide as killing Palestinians is flimsy as if Palestinians are a distinct ethnic group. "Palestinian" is a demonym for citizenship, but they are mostly ethnically Arabs. For Israel to commit genocide then it would have to depopulate the entire middle east. 
This is why I don't engage in your "cryptojew" accusation, because you can't even look up what words mean in a dictionary.

>>4740
Hamas started the war in the most bizarre way, the events of Oct 7th are phony. Hamas itself is a spurious organization that exists in the shadows of the Mossad as a foil to the PLO, that only exists to serve as an excuse for Israel to maintain an aggressive posture because Hamas has always been without force, it's toothless, and there was nothing this organization could hope to win by starting a war. Hamas' top leaders are probably sellouts. It's just another 9/11, so it's the jews. The other purpose of the Hamas is now to give an excuse to Israel to attack the Hezbollah and other neighboring countries. You have been the aggressor since day one and none of your cries of victimization will hide this.

But most importantly you have no rights over Palestine. Perhaps Judah, at most, and you were defeated and moved out of this area such a long time ago that it is irrelevant to your existence. For you to complain you are nevertheless quick to conveniently forget that in your very own books you don't hesitate to remind us all how you didn't have any qualms expelling and killing people when settling there, and you didn't live there that long either, all things considered, for this place to be considered yours, especially since you failed to defend it. You should have accepted to live as walled communities in the Middle East. There were more than enough lands you could have eventually bought out in this area with all that money you've been hoarding for centuries and stealing from other nations. Unfortunately, your pigheadedness and parasitic nature will be your final undoing. Enjoy the feeling of power while you still can, your hold on the White nations is precarious and you will pay for your crimes.

The Romans should have completed the extermination they had started. It is not the Arabs who would teach you a lesson, it's the Whites. But that lesson will be wasted on you because how can dead people remember anything really?

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>>4741
/thread/

>>4739
>If they are as evil as you'd accuse them to be, they'd keep the land and just beg US to nuke everything that refuse.
Which is exactly what they've been covertly doing for the last 60 years, systematically bulldozing arab homes and building a network of "settlements" on land they officially conceded back to the arabs.

>>4740
>They're not real people we have a right to dispose of them in mass graves and concrete over them

>>4741
>Hamas itself is a spurious organization that exists in the shadows of the Mossad as a foil to the PLO
<"anyone I don't like is a Jew"
Great argument, Habib. You deserve the biggest schizophrenic on sleepychan award.

>that only exists to serve as an excuse for Israel to maintain an aggressive posture because Hamas has always been without force
>and there was nothing this organization could hope to win by starting a war
The war intensifies the Global South demand for Palestine recognition, which simultaneously undermine US's soft power and widens the resource flow to Hamas in form of food and money donations, even if it's evident that only the top Hamas brass gets to enjoy them while living fancily in Qatar. If the Hamas is working for an even bigger actor, it's definitely the Puccians and Chinks. 
They don't need to win a war if they've always been raised to become martyrs, not actual fighters.

>But most importantly you have no rights over Palestine...
Yeah and by that logic it should be Swedes that have the right to North America, why don't you tell the current residents to move out. That's the story of humanity, killing each other for resources. 

>There were more than enough lands you could have eventually bought out in this area with all that money you've been hoarding for centuries and stealing from other nations.
Sure, but why did the Brits reject the Zionists' proposal to move Jews to Africa, that happened way before the Balfour papers?
If anything Jews had their chance to move to Palestine exactly because the Brits exchanged favors with them; to fight against Ottoman and get a piece of land close to the battlefield in return.

It is (You) who started the Jew problem, not the Jews them.

>>4745
>Which is exactly what they've been covertly doing for the last 60 years, systematically bulldozing arab homes and building a network of "settlements" on land they officially conceded back to the arabs.
Which is a reaction against the explosive growth of Arabic population within Israel. For God sake it's not even a country purely for Jews anymore and the rest of the world has been pushing Israeli government to accept them as citizens, which they begrudgingly accept.

>>4749
>strawmanning
Even if many people died, there was no deliberate targeting towards a certain ethnic group, but rather a certain group with political affiliation. You can't even call it a genocide against Palestinians because those on the west bank are relatively safer. The correct term is "mass killing", and both sides are guilty of both.
If you insist that this is a genocide against Palestine, then Palestine is also guilty of genocide against Jews.

>>4750
Also, it doesn't explain why their actual held territory size hasn't changed all that much, if at all. Yet you're accusing them of grabbing entire countries like they're some sort of war crazed empire like the Romans.

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>>4564
what a sloppy shill
kill yourself

>>4739
>And Israel released Gaza back to Palestinians after several years of conquering it during the 20th century. If they are as evil as you'd accuse them to be, they'd keep the land and just beg US to nuke everything that refuse.
If you werent such an inbred gobling, you would've realize that your fallacious argument wouldn't hold since Israel made Gaza a prison and didn't even allow the people to board boats to fish off their own cost, they would fire on their boats systematically and kill them. Not to mention the bombings and the blocking of NGO medics from entering

>>4752
>Also, it doesn't explain why their actual held territory size hasn't changed all that much, if at all.
Surely you are jesting

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Red herrings and lies, that's what you sandniggers keep doing. The more you post, the more you look stupid.

>>4757
>kill yourself
Let the Gazans do that.

>If you werent such an inbred gobling, you would've realize that your fallacious argument wouldn't hold since Israel made Gaza a prison and didn't even allow the people to board boats to fish off their own cost,
Because the coast is one of many routes for Hamas to smuggle weapons inside the place? The very cause of this harsh treatment is that Hamas does not separate military and civilians. They're treating every citizen in gaza as if they're freedom fighters on their side, loading their houses with weapons, and consider everyone in Israel as hostiles, so one of their objectives was kidnapping Israeli civilians back in the previous attack. Unless there is a strict guarantee that civilians won't turn into a fighter why would anyone take a risk?
That behavior is also observed in Hezbollah, which explains why Lebanese houses get bombed.

>the blocking of NGO medics from entering
Don't you mean Hamas? Why wouldn't they, the more pressure they put on civilians, the more the civilians starve, the more civilians turn into Jihadists, because civilians then won't have anything to lose but they can have pinky finger promise to heaven.
And that is why Jihadists come from Puccia-sponsored Arab republics, because socialist republics are inherently unstable, can't manage their own economy & starve their population. Just compare Syria and Saudi; while they both welcome Jihadists thought only Syria actually has multiple armed groups bent on making "infidels" suffer.

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>>4768
>The very cause of this harsh treatment is that Hamas does not separate military and civilians.
And the very cause of Hamas is your own government.
https://winepressnews.com/2023/11/11/did-you-know-that-the-united-states-and-israel-created-and-funded-hamas/
>Starting in the late 1970s, they began giving direct funding to a fringe group of radicals, their organizations, and their mosques. One of them was Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza, who had also formed the Islamist group Mujama al-Islamiya. They were recognized as a charity by the Israeli government in 1979, and started receiving funding soon after.
And surprise, october 7th is part of the same staple of jewish tricks. Only the most brainwashed cattle would believe in your pathetic lie that the mossad, pulling off such stunts as the fucking pager attacks wouldn't know about such a large scale attack months in advance. 
https://archive.is/OCfvq
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ed0-OxNO_bQ
A few little jews are a worthy sacrifice for your grand chosenites to claim back your promised land of the holy book.

>>4750
>For God sake it's not even a country purely for Jews anymore and the rest of the world has been pushing Israeli government to accept them as citizens, which they begrudgingly accept.
It's the other way around.
Jews have been pushing the world for decades now to accept more refugees. 
https://web.archive.org/web/20240526214107/https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-israeli-lawmakers-call-on-european-countries-to-take-in-gaza-refugees/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45WthPTo24&t=1

Its officialy on, Operation Northern Arrow has begun.

kikes are eating shit lol

Some pissrael fag is whining about "good and evil" on fox news right now, lmao

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>>4769
With PLO being socialists they will all turn into radicals sooner or later. Accelerating a split within their enemy is just a strategy.

>A few little jews are a worthy sacrifice for your grand chosenites to claim back your promised land of the holy book.
There have been many opportunities where Israel could've taken Gaza but didn't because reasons, do you even read the thread?

>>4770
>Jews have been pushing the world for decades now to accept more refugees. 
They are no more powerful to EU than a bunch of demonstrators. Start naming actual powerful figures like Merkel and Macron, because head of governments or parliaments actually make the decision.

>>4777
Wake me up when more than 10 civilians died.

On a scale from Gaza to Ukraine, how much of a nothingburger is this second Israel-Lebanon war so far?

>>4784
Iran has already entered the conflict with tosays missile barrage.
Its on.

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>>4786
>Rolling a 1
Fug.

Israel is still ok. :(

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>>4797
Down a major airbase, please try again. Also...

>>4802
I hope there are videos of the destruction and how much shit got destroyed.

>>4797
What were you expecting? It's a targeted missile strike, not a gigaton nuke.

>>4796
>1st pic
Is that a fucking ACOG? Must be some of the shit the Taliban took from the US state department.

>>4802
Really? Which one?

Nothing EVER happens.

>>4805
It could have been looted from dead IDF or purchased through a proxy. The whole thing could have even be a straight up mossad false flag but that's just speculation. 
The thing that caught my eye is the middle guy's pose, it's almost "chad vs virgin".

>>4802
 Can I sign to this with the understanding that I will mock from outside of their ballistic missile range?

>>4810
I don't see why not, sonny!

>>4792
>We had no war in the middle east
I think i can believe americans forgetting those 70 something tomahawks into a russian-held base in Syria in charge of spanking ISIS and also that one drone hit killing the top gun of the special forces of Iran.
U.S. is a sick nation and there's no medicine on sight.

>>4809
>The thing that caught my eye is the middle guy's pose
What is he anyway? a spotter? a shooter who ran out of ammo and just tried to shield him? his bro who wanted to kick the shit one last time even if he didn't take an active role?

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>>4791
>>4793
>>4794
アイアンドームはどこ？
いないのか？

>>4782
>There have been many opportunities where Israel could've taken Gaza but didn't because reasons
yes, because there was no excuse to carpet bomb defenseless civilians. october 7th gives just the right excuse to act in the most unhinged way possible and still get away with it to prevent the next 6 gorillion.
>They are no more powerful to EU than a bunch of demonstrators. Start naming actual powerful figures like Merkel and Macron
I can name you a whole bunch of jewish NGOs supporting mass migration to europe, shaping the public concensus to make whites accept their own genocide. 
Putting your own people directly into office to subvert your enemy wouldn't be very smart, now would it?
There are enough gentliles to do your bidding for you.

>>4782
>I can name you a whole bunch of jewish NGOs supporting mass migration to europe, shaping the public concensus to make whites accept their own genocide. 
adding to that jewish owned mass media, entertainment etc.

The grand death toll for the last attack is...drum roll...less than 10. But I woke up anyway.

By anon's logic, Hezbollah is a Jewish organization because of how its attacks are so ineffective yet provides enough justification for Israel to hit back.

>>4816
Your arguments have been disproven days ago, good job proving yourself illiterate and lazy. Is this how you enter a debate?

>yes, because there was no excuse to carpet bomb defenseless civilians
<defenseless
Hamas would turn any civilians into fighters anytime, and have stored weapons in civilian homes like Hezbollah does.

>I can name you a whole bunch of jewish NGOs supporting mass migration to europe
And I can name you a whole bunch of Muslim activists all across Europe but none of them did anything meaningful and long lasting for Palestine. 
The real decision making lies on your government and whether or not it benefits them. Immigrants bring a short term economic benefit and tax revenue while supporting a distant sandnigger country who has made no meaningful export is just a waste of time and money. If you're running a government and has to pick either one of those, why would you pick the latter choice?

Time and time again, NGOs and your conspiracy theories are nothing but cheap red herrings.

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>>4818
>Your arguments have been disproven days ago
I'm not reading through the whole fucking thread. Maybe you could refer me to your "argument"?
>By anon's logic, Hezbollah is a Jewish organization
I never said anything about hezbollah?
>The real decision making lies on your government and whether or not it benefits them. Immigrants bring a short term economic benefit and tax revenue
At this point I'm too tired to even refute that old jewish lie that I've seen blindly regurgitated by way too many gentiles. 
>Time and time again, NGOs and your conspiracy theories are nothing but cheap red herrings.
We know, we know, it's all just a cohencidence https://jewishcontributions.com/cards/252-larry-fink/
you only proved my point that the majority of jews, even our based mossad shills on this nieche basket weaving forum, openly support replacement migration into europe.
>If you're running a government and has to pick either one of those, why would you pick the latter choice?
If you're running government why would you pick any of those and not mind your own business instead and do what's in the favor of your own people?

>>4819
>I'm not reading through the whole fucking thread. 
>At this point I'm too tired
You lost. Put in some effort.

>If you're running government why would you pick any of those and not mind your own business instead and do what's in the favor of your own people?
Because governments can work toward goals that are unrelated of the people's interests? Why not take a look at North Korea. In any case that's mostly the government's fault for ruining their own populace, not some foreigners who send them papers once in a while.

>>4820
his arguments were not disproven days ago. unless you can source otherwise. but you wont.

>immigration into white nations isnt this way because of jews, its the jew controlled politicians!
LOL, holy shit Chaim. relax.
Jews like loose immigration so they can blend in better into homogenous societies and destroy them by pushing their degeneracy. They promote it using media and finance institutions in foreign nations.
They corrupt politicians and if they cant corrupt the politicians they either try to kill them or have the people overthrow them in order to establish a system of government they can corrupt.
They've done this to many nations for over 1000 years now and is why theyve been banned from so many countries around the world.
Honestly i dont know how you can come to any other conclusion, but my guess is you're either a jew or a simp for jews.

>>4821
or a shill

The sandnigger's new trick is to close their ears and pretend bad things didn't happen. Good luck telling them to read a book.

>>4821
>(1)
Of course a newbie without any knowledge whatsoever have to come in and tell people they don't know shit.
Here, I'll spoonfeed you just to embarrass yourself.

>yes, because there was no excuse to carpet bomb defenseless civilians
>>4768
<Hamas does not separate military and civilians. They're treating every citizen in gaza as if they're freedom fighters on their side, loading their houses with weapons, and consider everyone in Israel as hostiles, so one of their objectives was kidnapping Israeli civilians back in the previous attack. 
Unless there is a strict guarantee that civilians won't turn into a fighter why would anyone take a risk?

>>immigration into white nations isnt this way because of jews, its the jew controlled politicians!
Strawmanning this bad won't do you any favor, because then you won't be able to explain why Protestants practically invited Jews to settle in Netherlands back in 15th century.

Here's a bonus, I'll debunk that stupid picture from >>4819;
That graph includes everything from 1 year old babies and 90 year old crippled hags, neither of which is of working age. Try telling your newborn to go into factories I know you won't because the only place where your penis can go is a goat, Iqbal. Of course their economic output is low.
Shrinking the graph down to the regular working age population, 15-65 tells you a different picture; middle east immigrants are a net negative, but all other immigrants are positive. Hence immigration confers some economic benefit.

If you can't even understand context this basic, why even talk about economy or government?
Go suck on some camel titties and leave real news discussion to the Jews, they know how to think.

>>4823
>That graph includes everything from 1 year old babies and 90 year old crippled hags, neither of which is of working age
good job. that means the graph even is in favor of whites, since their birth rates are the lowest of all ethnic groups leading to the largest number of pensioners.

>>4824
> that means the graph even is in favor of whites
Yes, and? Whites are productive, no one is denying that, but you were trying to deny that immigration gives a short term economic benefit. 

Red herring again?

>since their birth rates are the lowest of all ethnic groups leading to the largest number of pensioners.
Which is the reason why governments summon immigrants because otherwise no one else will pay for those pensioners 20-30 years in the future.
The graph proves immigrants can be productive, and now there is a demand for them.

>>4823
>(1)
>newbie
>implying
lel

How does that quote show that its not the jews being jews?
It doesn't

Jew civilians in israel were stealing houses from people, cutting off their food/water supplies, and shooting kids playing soccer even during "peace time".
They are part of the invading force and there is no reason to show them any mercy. Hezbollah can "recruit" a fighter because everyone in israel that isnt a jew wants the jews gone. Just like everyone else. With good reason.
It's clear the jews need to be exterminated out of israel and out of every nation around the globe.

>>4825
What metric are you using here to judge what is and isn't an economic benefit? Benefit for whom?

Governments summon immigrants because of jews. Thats all.

>>4826
>How does that quote show that its not the jews being jews?
Jews being Jews, as in Jewish people doing what they need to do to protect themselves? Sure.

>Jew civilians in israel were stealing houses from people, cutting off their food/water supplies, and shooting kids playing soccer even during "peace time".
There is no peace time with terrorists next door. The wars in Syria should demonstrate enough how long and bloody conflicts can be when Jihadists are in the equation.

>What metric are you using here to judge what is and isn't an economic benefit? 
You ask that to whoever making the graph from >>4819, dummy. 
You are the actual medical definition of an idiot; you lack conscience so much that you don't realize the self-contradiction you're making.

>>4827
Protect themselves from their victims. Like every other nation.
There is no peace when you steal from people, kill their children, then get mad when they kill yours and act like you don't deserve it.
Cry me a river, kike.

Are you basing your retarded statement i was responding to purely on a graph without even knowing what the graph means? Then using that ignorance as a defense when someone calls you out for your retarded statement?
What a retard. You probably have one of those debilitating jewish genetic brain disorders, so I forgive you but get your shit together, kikeanon.

>>4828
>Cry me a river, kike.
>There is no peace when you steal from people, kill their children, then get mad when they kill yours and act like you don't deserve it.
You know what, you love your white masters so much, why don't you ask them about their colonialist adventures while you were still an Ottoman colony, Habib. Make sure to listen on how the Brit settlers treat Australian abbos.

You are here to celebrate war in a war forum, just enjoy it and admit who the victors are.

>Are you basing your retarded statement i was responding to purely on a graph without even knowing what the graph means?
See this is anyone can tell you're illiterate. I used that graph to justify my own statement. Habib please, it's time for your daily goat grooming.

Gotta love that constant whataboutism.

>>4830
Your cabals' right? 
For a community who love to talk about conquering the world through wars on some other threads, you sure are too emotional when it's the sandniggers' turn to be conquered.

>>4825
*the graph even is in favor of immigrants
>You ask that to whoever making the graph from >>4819
the danish ministry of finance. and it even seperates middle eastern from other non-western migrants and still clearly shows them vastly inferior to western workforce, despite the fact that whites have the largest group of pensioners.

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>>4825
It even has the age listed, and whites are the most productive across all age groups, which just proves your blatant illiteracy.

>>4829
>just enjoy it and admit who the victors are.
Making yourself the hate object of the whole world is a questionable "victory". 
And it wouldn't be the first time that your people have made on one too many enemies at once. In the end there will be another mass purge and you will be able to play the victim card again. That is what your mentally ill religion is all about after all.

>>4804
I am expecting something that doesn't look like, by comparison to how much Israel is destroying, Arab unity is more talk than action. And if you shall reason with me that the Middle East is too afraid of the USA to dictate the pace of this war, or some other reason, well, then so much for Islam's faith in Allah then, eh?

>>4829
>if i dont steal it someone else gonna steal it.
>Colonialist
>colony
Says it all right there, squatter.  They didn't kick natives out of their homes and literally live in their houses and cities like a bunch of jew squatters in israel pretending it's theirs. colonialists colonized and homesteaded undeveloped land natives claimed to own. I don't cry for sub humans.
Im just rooting for the destruction of israel. No reason to get so upset. The world would be much better off if jews were destroyed. Jews flood them into europe to destroy europe, now its biting them in the ass. sow. reap. cope.

>I used a graph I dont understand to justfiy my own statement
Literal NPC behavior. Do you even have a soul?

>>4832
>>4834
>illiteracy
Oh, you're blaming me for illiteracy yet it is (You) who keep strawmanning. Point out which post and which statement that where I wrote anything that implies whites are not the most productive group in that graph.

>It even has the age listed
Which I am already aware of here >>4823
>That graph includes everything from 1 year old babies and 90 year old crippled hags

The graph wouldn't change much even if there are like a couple hundred of whites in Denmark.

>Making yourself the hate object of the whole world is a questionable "victory".
Well the USA still has Israel's back, and neither China nor Puccia is interested in destroying Israel anyway. 

>>4836
>Arab unity is more talk than action
To be fair, Egypt and Saudis tried, but what happened was that Arabs were making the (monarchic) capitalist vs (republic) socialist camps like many other regions on earth back in the cold war. Can't help it when Soviet Puccians love to overthrow decent governments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Cold_War

>And if you shall reason with me that the Middle East is too afraid of the USA to dictate the pace of this war, or some other reason
Add the fact that some of the Arabs are dependent on the USA for protection, they won't bother protecting Palestine. As an example, USA has been protecting Saudis from Shia threat, so it makes sense for them not to assist the Palestinians (who have attempted overthrowing a monarchy) and anger the USA in the process; it's a double suicide.

>>4840
>They didn't kick natives out of their homes and literally live in their houses and cities like a bunch of jew squatters in israel pretending it's theirs.
>assuming the Palestinians can build houses
>implying it wasn't the Israelis that did most of the construction

>I used a graph I dont understand to justfiy my own statement
Good job describing yourself.

>finance hamass to get rid of PLO
>have them build tunnels 
>(0 military advantages, just forces the other side to target civilians which is pretty useful if you want to ethnic cleanse them)
>hamass attacks and asks for it
>start ethnic cleansing
>this whole time, Hezbollah rockets random communication infrastructure instead of doing anything
(realistically, they could have bombed israel's iron dome and then overwhelmed it while it was with its pants down raping Gaza)
>because they're almost entirely subverted by mossad
>eventually decide that no hezbollah is better than a subverted hezbollah
>"explode pagers" (kill your own agents) eliminating the leadership
>remains of hezbollah react like a chicken with its head cut off
>randomly bomb israel and do retarded shit that goes nowhere
>use them as excuse to take Lebanon Clay
>Iran overwhelms the Iron Dome with 400 missiles (out of a difficult-to-replenish supply of 5000 something)
>hits a couple of bases and does minimal damage
>claims it was all on purpose
(isn't it funny how the head of the unit to combat mossad was an Israeli agent?)
>starts asking for it
Outcome: America takes out Iran, Israel gets free Lebanon clay, pallys holocausted.
A bit risky, but it's a good plan I think.

>>4842
Palestinians might get shoah'd but I highly doubt the US in its current state could spare the resources to conquer let alone occupy Iran, at least not with Ukraine still eating NATO gear while the PLA keeps growing larger.

>>4840
>colonialists colonized and homesteaded undeveloped land natives claimed to own.
At the cost of what?

>Between 1904 and 1908, German colonial forces carried out a genocide against the Herero and Nama peoples in German South West Africa (modern-day Namibia)
>An estimated 80% of the Herero population and 50% of the Nama population were killed
>The total death toll is estimated between 24,000 and 100,000 Herero and 10,000 Nama

>Under King Leopold II's rule of the Congo Free State (1885-1908), an estimated 10 million Congolese died due to forced labor, disease, and brutal treatment

This is a fact of life, wars and colonialists bring death. Deal with it. The Brits were an exception for legitimately improving life in their colonies but even then they had their hands dirty and a bit bloody.

>>4842
I knew someone would come out and say Hezbollah is a Jewish puppet. Whatever.
Now for the main attraction, on a Jew© vs Jew🄬 battle, which Jew™ will win?

>>4843
>US in its current state could spare the resources to conquer let alone occupy Iran
Not even in the past either, it's too tiresome with all the mountains.

>>4844
>I knew someone would come out and say Hezbollah is a Jewish puppet. Whatever.
It's more complicated than "jewish puppet" and "100% judenfrei". Every organization has plenty of members that are traitorous, corrupt, or simply cowardly and preferring compromise to fighting.
I'm basing this on Hezbollah not bombing israel when it was advantageous and the pager story being retarded. Unlike you, I am not a filthy antisemite, and don't buy story of a cackling hook-nosed merchant selling cursed artifacts that will explode on the right day. Simple infiltration explains it more easily, and you guys have Mossad for it.

>>4843
It might strain the taxpayer, but the US is capable of holding two fronts. If not, the Neocons and Baptist boomers will choose Israel over Ukraine anyway.

>>4846
>Baptist
Don't forget the evangelicals too.

>>4841
I was commenting on something you said. Not the graph. You're just backpeddling by blaming a graph for the dumb shit you're saying.

>>4844
At the cost of their own energy and lives. Takes time and effort to build civilization. Unless you're a jew. Then you just enter a civilization and move into buildings and start claiming ownership.
But either way you have it backwards. I don't think jews should be destroyed because of what they did to create israel, i think they should be destroyed for everything theyve been doing to everyone else as a collective. Watching them get destroyed by a population they weaponized is just icing on the cake. It's like when jews in america get cucked and beaten and robbed by niggers. sow. reap. cope.

>>4841
>Point out which post and which statement that where I wrote anything that implies whites are not the most productive group in that graph.
you implied that the graph was useless because:
>That graph includes everything from 1 year old babies and 90 year old crippled hags, neither of which is of working age
while it neatly shows the economic benefit for every age group beginning from 1-90

>>4841
it's not a net average or whatever you were implying.
frankly, I don't even know what your point is or if you're just trying to derail the discussion.

>>4848
>I was commenting on something you said. 
I'm still waiting for you point out how my interpretation of that graph is incorrect. Go on.

>But either way you have it backwards. don't think jews should be destroyed because of what they did to create israel,
Why bring up the things that Israeli did to Palestinians then? You started this conversation.

>>4849 
>you implied that the graph was useless
Doesn't make sense because I wrote this
>Shrinking the graph down to the regular working age population, 15-65 tells you a different picture; 
What I was implying is the graph gives you too much information. And I later used the same graph for my own statement so it was useful to me.

>it's not a net average or whatever you were implying.
This is actually the first time anyone wrote "average" on the thread. 

>frankly, I don't even know what your point is or if you're just trying to derail the discussion.
Maybe get off that Syrian Captagon and stop hallucinating before trying to argue with a stranger.

>>4851
Why would you wait on that? I never commented on the graph and its irrelevant to what I criticized. Which is you saying.
>its not the jews, goy! its those corrupted by jews that are the real enemy! theyre the ones flooding the white nations with niggers and arabs! not the jews! meanwhile every politician is either jewish or watched closely by a jewish handler.

>Why bring up the things that Israeli did to Palestinians
Because you painted Israel as being victims when they are the victimizer. Just like when europeans start turning against jews, youll probably see it the same way, but full extermination of the jews at this point is totally deserved. If the Palestinians beat us to it, that's just a bonus. They certainly are within their right to do so and have every right to be angry.

Everyone knows why they persecute you, so.

>>4846
>but the US is capable of holding two fronts
But what happens is China enters the fray and goes for Taiwan?

>>4853
Taking Russia, Iran and China at the same time would be suicidal but the chinese are pussies and will stick to threatening.

>>4845
>I am not a filthy antisemite, and don't buy story of a cackling hook-nosed merchant selling cursed artifacts that will explode on the right day.
>Simple infiltration explains it more easily, and you guys have Mossad for it.
That's a distinction without a difference. The exploding pagers were a supply chain attack perpetrated by Jews against Hezbollah.

>arguing against kike
have some dignity you fools

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>>4856
Isn't it a bit late to ask for that?

>>4831
You seem to have decided for me why I come here.

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Maybe one day we will now how badly they got fucked up.

>>4860
They were claiming juse a couple days ago that the attack failed and that they had ZERO casualties. At least that's what was being reported on burger "news".

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Wow... Iran, Lebanon, Palestine. Is Israel gonna fight everyone?!?

>>4852
>Why would you wait on that? I never commented on the graph 
That a load of bullcrap, we know you've been swapping IDs, otherwise you wouldn't write
>I was commenting on something you said. Not the graph
in response to 
>Point out which post and which statement that where I wrote anything that implies whites are not the most productive group in that graph.
which is a reply directed to f05a97.
Or maybe you're too illiterate to understand how a conversation goes.

>its not the jews, goy! its those corrupted by jews that are the real enemy!
That is similar to blaming high murder rate on gun ownership. It is your government that holds the gate, and they aren't only listening to Jews.

>Because you painted Israel as being victims when they are the victimizer.
And that is your most pathetic strawman of this whole debate. What I have been saying the entire thread is the Jews have enough reasons to fight for a land, and they won it through winning wars just like any aggressive countries in history.

>>4856
It is truly a mistake to debate with Arabs. Red herrings, lies, ignorance of history, inability to read, strawmanning, ignoring entire arguments, and the list goes on.
Arabs blame me only for whataboutism for stating wars and colonialism cost lives, which is the norm in nature.

>>4656
>>4669
I just realized that as bad as this was for Hezbollah this could also be seen as a major strategic error for Israel. A complete decapitation strike means there's no one left to turn the war off. A ceasefire or a surrender or any kind of negotiation is impossible now. Now the IDF has to fight literally every single member of Hezbollah to the death.

>>4871
>A complete decapitation strike
No worries, anon said that they are all disposable and easily replaceable. They can always return to what they've been doing for the past 30 years.

>>4856
To be honest the hohol-kike has pretty much succeeded in his goal of making this board completely worthless. With how effective he's been at shitting up both this and the Ukraine thread I don't even know why I still bother checking here.

>>4854
This would be the best time for china to strike. With worker strike on east and war on west coast america would cut off economically. And leaving incompetent unpopular president in office. 
Then again, they would be fighting against millenia of cultural stagnation to do so.
>>4860
Realistically, if Izrael does not strike back against Iran it is due to their strike capacity being crippled by missiles. Getting one of your major air bases would do that to you.
Funnily enough everyone else in the region dug their bases deep into the ground to protect their military assets from such strikes except for Izrael that bet on iron dome and assumption of total air supremacy. 
>>4863
Dont forget about Syria and Yemen. And that is just a start.

>>4874
Imagine being this butthurt at having your circlejerk demolished.

>>4874
Yeah but he's also convinced me that every stereotype about zionists is entirely valid.

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>>4874
>he's been at shitting up both this and the Ukraine
Being proven wrong repeatedly in arguments you started isn't being a victim of "thread shitting", it's called losing.

>>4868
>you've been swapping IDs
Nope.
>productive group
Your statement i commented on was about immigrants being the fault of whites/governments, not jews.
I pointed out that the other conversation you were having where you tried to use the tired tactic of "its already been debunked" to avoid having to actually make a point.

These are 2 separate arguments and i don't care about that argument, I just wanted to point out that your side of the argument was not proven or a given. Just a jewish argument tactic to avoid arguing.

Every politician has a jewish handler. The jews corrupted the system from the very beginning. Immigration is intentional and we are going to wipe your people off of the face of the earth in response, and the earth will be better for it.

>Jews have enough reasons to fight for a land
Lmao. Jews are a nigger that just robbed someone, then get angry when the person tries to take it back. Nobody in the world is buying the self defense story.
But this isnt like "we took something once upon a time" It's recent, and its continuing. They've been stealing peoples homes as recently as under a year ago. And this is all after being let into israel as refugees that agreed to palestinian law based on the lie of the holocaust.

It's disgusting and the world knows it.  You people deserve worse than extermination, but at this point extermination is just the rest of the world trying to preserve itself.

>>4887
Aren't you tired of repeating old /pol/ schizo arguments, go on and name every Jew handler of every politicians out there.

>i don't care about that argument, 
>I just wanted to point out that your side of the argument was not proven or a given
Oh wow, imagine contradicting yourself in the same sentence.

>Lmao. Jews are a nigger that just robbed someone
And I can recite you tales where empires robbed other countries of land and resources, why are Jews any different?

>then get angry when the person tries to take it back.
Don't you mean your own tribe, Habib, because you've been crying for 8 decades. 

>They've been stealing peoples homes as recently as under a year ago. 
<implying Arabs can even build homes

>>4888
>Jew handler
It's called "AIPAC guy"

>>4887
Almost forgot;
>where you tried to use the tired tactic of "its already been debunked" 
True, I said this >>4818
>Your arguments have been disproven days ago
But I replied to the 2 arguments >>4816 presented anyway, my statement above was simply to say that other Arab didn't even read the thread.

>>4889
Great, you named one organization that works in one country. Now do it again for 190 other countries. And then name every politician that works in each country and each of their Jew handler.

>>4890
>Now do it again for 190 other countries
Mossad

>>4874
Hey there niggerpill.
>>4885
Surely none would complain if merchant ships were to mount a few manually operated 20mm autocannon turrets?
>>4887
I wholeheartedly agree with this Anon.

>>4891
Okay, good job, Jewish people have Jewish handlers. 189 countries remain.
You can do it, Yakub.

>>4893
Read my post again

>>4894
If you're implying Mossad is the handler of every politician that exists, how come are Iran and Yemen attacking Israel? Can't they just stop them from firing missiles days ago?

>>4888
Name every AIPAC guy? It's no secret, kike. 

Jews cant build anything. They are too weak and frail. that's why they hire pajeets and arabs to do it for them. Jews cant even build a country, thats why they came to palestine as refugees. A race of lazy squatters playing the victim.

>>4895
Because of how jews operate, not having a jewish handler means youll be the enemy of the west and thrust into wars. See the bolshevik revolution and the death of the tzar, JFK, and adolf hitler.
Are you seriously asking to name every actual jewish or WEF politician? Every jewish rebel group? Every world bank, every jew owned mass media organization? I think it would be faster to name who isnt owned by jews? assad, yemen, and iran, i guess? Cant name too many others.
The USA established israel using jew-owned politicians and killed anyone in the way. this is jews using the USA a proxy.  Dont be angry when people see through jewish proxies and decide to go after jews instead of the proxy. Don't try to pretend these proxies jews use dont exist. 

If your argument is "might makes right", dont complain when the rest of the world exterminates you.

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>>4896
>Jews cant build anything.
Then good luck explaining all the housing and military hardware they have built.

>Are you seriously asking to name every actual jewish or WEF politician?
Yes, so you can prove your own statement here >>4887
<Every politician has a jewish handler.

>I think it would be faster to name who isnt owned by jews?
Never mind, you contradicted yourself. Good job being the an actual textbook definition of an idiot.

>If your argument is "might makes right", dont complain
I have never made a complaint and you truly are retarded to believe otherwise. All I wrote are observations, if you corner a desperate animal, it will fight back hard. That animal is Jews.

> when the rest of the world exterminates you.
Again, good luck doing that. But remember not many wants to bite the hand that feeds them.

Stop arguing with JIDF shills just filter and report.

>>4892
Wishing retards would just hit the "FIlter ID" button instead of turning every thread into a shitting competition against a larger-nosed retard isn't "blackpill", you fucking imbecile.

All these embarrassing Arabic coping mechanism entertain me. Kinda make it worthwhile spending my break time arguing with idiots.

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>>4901
ouch, thats a nice hit.

>>4874
He certainly plays his game very well, obvious data is ignored and when brought again via sources it is ignored or goalpost moved once again.
I realized this and in spirit of good old krautspreg the best move against him is to ignore his shilling, many of us have certain standards and in the end there might be a limit where 2 parties might never see or accept the other one.
He doesn't accept basic information unless it is written and presented as an official declaration by a country's ministry and we really can't fathom Israel doing all it does via defense doctrine only, let alone that he really looks like he's actively shitting he place when in reality he is indeed debating but deliberately in a bad way or maliciously.

>>4901
Looking forward to oil prices spiking.

>>4904
> shitting the place when in reality he is indeed debating but deliberately in a bad way or maliciously.
That's the same as shitting the place up and also an antisemetic stereotype you monster.

>>4904
>deliberately in a bad way or maliciously.
That's standard for kikes.

>>4740
>literally sorry kiddo you made a spelling error tier 
Yes people mistakenly use the term genocide when they should use democide just like they use the term war crimes wrongly when they mean crimes instead of crimes against humanity. That doesn't change that the government of Israel is doing it.
That's like someone saying 
>"My dad was murdered. Someone shot him right in the face." 
And you come along with
>"Ahkshully he was found guilty of first degree manslaughter. Retard!"

And it still would count as a genocide besides. Killing an ethnic group only in your own country or occupied territory STILL COUNTS AS A GENOCIDE even if that group has representatives elsewhere. If it does not then it would be also incorrect to say that the Germans instituted a genocide of the Jews since there were Jews in other parts of the world beyond Germany and Axis occupied Europe.

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>>4897
The holocaust never happened. Jews used it as an excuse to remove people from their homes. It's ok if they kill you for this. fully justified.
Jews ran the slave trade. It's ok if they kill you for this. Fully justified.
Jews flooded every white nation with violent niggers and arabs. It's ok if they kill you for this. Full justified.
Jews do everything they can to disrespect God and even modeled a religion around it. its ok if he kills you for this, Fully justified.

If you people had the ability to self reflect, it wouldnt be so bad, but youre incapable of accepting any responsibility for anything because youre a bunch of cowardly children. Also you import labor to build those things. Jews dont build anything.

>>4909
>Killing an ethnic group only in your own country or occupied territory STILL COUNTS AS A GENOCIDE even if that group has representatives elsewhere
That makes every war and even armed conflict equal to genocide, might as well make them synonyms.

> If it does not then it would be also incorrect to say that the Germans instituted a genocide of the Jews since there were Jews in other parts of the world beyond Germany and Axis occupied Europe.
Sure and your cabal doesn't believe Germany did Jews a genocide despite the hundreds of dead bodies anyway >>4917. Deal?

Protip: despite the Arabs' intense hatred against Jews they sure love to use the word invented by a Jew.
>Raphael Lemkin, who first coined the term, defined genocide as "the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group" by means such as "the disintegration of [its] political and social institutions, of [its] culture, language, national feelings, religion, and [its] economic existence".
>Raphael Lemkin was a Polish lawyer of Jewish descent who is known for coining the term genocide and campaigning to establish the Genocide Convention. 

>>4904
>when brought again via sources it is ignored 
Which statement did I ignore again? 
Meanwhile can you provide source of the all-encompassing claims like "Jews did not build anything" or "Every politician has a Jewish handler"?

>or goalpost moved once again.
The Arabs' lack of self conciousness for derailing a discussion from "what will happen in the middle east" >>4549
 & "what caused all the infighting within Arabs" >>4641
 to "why can't Jews have Israel" >>4741
 and again to "why Jews deserve extermination" >>4848
 is truly a big farce to watch. 
And it has been ongoing for more than a week.

If there is no one to stop the derailing, then I shouldn't even bother engaging in each of your assertion anyway. But I have to admit, it sure was fun to expose the Arabs' horrible ignorance of history.

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>>4919
And for the sake of transparency, here is a proof that the thread was derailed from the topic I tried discussing.

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>>4919
>your cabal
LOL
> doesn't believe Germany did Jews a genocide despite the hundreds of dead bodies anyway
It was six million and not one less you AI-semite.

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>>4925
>It was six million and not one less you AI-semite
And strawmanning again. 
You don't have to choose between the 2 opposing extreme narratives between "6 gorillion died in the Holocaust, goyim" and "Holocaust didn't happen and not a single Jew died in Auschwitz, infidel".  
A simple picture is enough to prove my point. You can't discredit it.

But it is now clear that (You) barged into the thread without any valuable argument whatsoever like the rest of the Arabs here.

>>4919
>goalposts
ok mr "Oh you think jews own the media and the banks? name every corrupt jew in banking and media"

>>4925
dont forget about the bear/eagle cage, masterbation machines, rollercoasters, gas chambers with wooden doors, etc etc etc

>>4928
Youre saying the choice is between holocaust skepticism and holocaust skepticism.  Which are both called "denial" by your own people.
They clearly define the holocaust as a planned extermination of jews using methods such as gassing followed by destroying and burning the bodies of approximately 6 million.
If you deny any part of that, you are considered a "denier"
nobody anywhere denies the fact that jews died, thats just part of the same propaganda that equates skepticism with denial.
If it doesn't fit that description "the holocaust" didnt happen, since that's what it is. millions did not die from gassing. and there is no proof of it. there was no planned extermination and there is no proof of that either.
A picture of dead bodies doesnt prove that the extermination was planned. doesnt prove that "death camps" (camps built specifically for extermination) existed, doesnt prove they were gassed, and it doesnt prove they were burned to ash and buried.

So yes, the holocaust never happened. You're not allowed to loosen the definition of the holocaust when simply saying the numbers are inflated is enough to be considered a "holocaust denier"

blame your own people for setting that rule.

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>>4930
>ok mr "Oh you think jews own the media and the banks? name every corrupt jew in banking and media"
And asking for proofs that is how you verify a claim, Mr. "Every politician is controlled by Jews! But let's ignore those in Iran, Syria, Yemen, etc."

>blame your own people for setting that rule.
If I were ever to represent Israel who set up that rule, that doesn't explain my usage of the term to disparage a Mongoloid shithole, because Israel is on good term with them.
Now engage me in my assertion instead of associating me with strangers and their fight, Mr. Strawmanning.

It's been 9 days and I still can't believe Arabs successfully turned a war board into /pol/.

>>4931
>oh you think blacks are violent? name every black that has ever done something violent! this is how you verify a claim :^)

What does jews equating "skepticism" with "denial" of the holocaust have to do with anything you're talking about?
The holocaust is a lie and only stupid (or apathetic) people don't understand this at this point.
jews sent people to prison for denying their ridiculous claims. The only reason israel exists is based on a lie.

>>4928
>stating that the holohoax happened=denying the holohoax
What.
>>4931
You forgot Best Korea.
>>4937
>90% of the world's oil supply
Blyat harbor soon?

>>4937
I love how they have to make up random bullshit to justify Pissrael existing.

>>4940
They're our friends :) gotta help a friend.

>>4933
You can't evade the burden of proof, Mr. "Everything in Israel is built by Arabs and Indians."

>What does jews equating "skepticism" with "denial" of the holocaust have to do with anything you're talking about?
(You)r argument assumes I am a Jew, but I am not. Even if I were, I don't have to abide by any authority to form opinions. Even some Jews oppose the very existence of Israel like Neturei Karta, how hard it is for them to deny holocaust?
Calling you and the rest as Arabs are merely jokes and I don't have to base any argument on that, unlike what (You) did.

>The only reason israel exists is based on a lie.
And you're again and again, ignoring the fact that the Jews were rewarded land for fighting in favor of the Brits >>4699 >>4704
The same thing you've been doing for 4 days.

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>>4942
I'm calling you a jew.
I'm saying the holocaust was a hoax.
Without the holocaust lie there would be no Israel today.

>he's bringing up the brit agreements by rothchilds. 
wew lad.

>>4932
>turned a war board into /pol/
Deep down inside it always was, just a more polite civilized version. An armed society is a polite society

>>4940
>random bullshit
Random? It has always, consistently been about the oil - you gotta give them that.

>>4946
Your picture already proves your claim wrong, Ahmed. Even one building built by Israelis make it wrong.

>wew lad.
That agreement serves as the initial call for Jews to move into the place. Without it there won't be any Israel to create.
There are many reasons of why Israel stands today, the perception of Holocaust is just one.

>I'm calling you a jew.
But sure, whatever, your insistence in not listening already proves you're not interested in engaging in the debate. I win.

>>4948
How? Israel has no oil to defend.

>>4951
>jew builds 1 house
we did it jews! 
WEW.

>argues like a jew straight out of mein kampf
>mad when people call him a jew
epic "win", kike.

creation of Israel =/= jews living in palestine as refugees.

Are you jewish?

>>4952
>we did it 
Now count how many foreigners are involved versus Jews in Israel for weapon, food, life sciences, semiconductor manufacturing and other industries. 
You may be surprised to notice that Jews do work and build something.

>creation of Israel =/= jews living in palestine as refugees.
Of course they aren't equal, the former necessitates the latter. You can't build a country without people, and the Arabs were clearly against Jews living in their land since at least the 1930s, which necessitate wars for Jews to create a country. 

>Are you jewish?
Whatever I am, you're below me in terms of reading comprehension.

>>4953
Your argument was palestinians don't build houses, jews do. I showed a jewish publication saying its RARE to see a jewish construction worker in a jewish country. Now youre asking me to find race statistics in food indsutry in a jewish country.
Another epic "win"

The organization that pushed the UN to create israel was created as a reaction to the holocaust lie. During the debates and negotiations that followed, they continuously brought up gas chambers and other lies.

Are you jewish?

>>4955
>Your argument was palestinians don't build houses, jews do
And you replied with "Jews cant build anything" >>4896
, which overrides my argument and expanded the burden of proof. Now start by finding anything that says absolutely everything in Israel was not built by Jews.

>The organization that pushed the UN to create israel was created
And that organization was just one step of the ladder to the creation of Israel.

>Are you jewish?
Do you have to repeat the same question, red herrings, lies and ignorance as if you have dementia?

>>4953
Now count how many children suffered blood libel thanks to jews

>>4956
>what is hyperbole?
wew. keep moving those goalposts, chaim.

>He wont answer the question.
Are you jewish?

>>4951
>Even one building built by Israelis make it wrong.
Do you have severe autism? When people say x group does / does not do y they are usually making a generalization and do not literally mean that every single person in group x does / does not do y.
>>4956
>Now start by finding anything that says absolutely everything in Israel was not built by Jews.
It is almost impossible to prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you.

>>4960
Jews helped built one house. It's rare, but they helped.  So his assertion that jews didnt move into arab built homes in palestine and steal them on the regular based on the idea that arabs dont build homes holds water.

Don't you get it?

>>4959
>>what is hyperbole?
>>When people say x group does / does not do y they are usually making a generalization and do not literally mean that every single person in group x does / does not do y.
That is just being incorrect.

>>4960
>It is almost impossible to prove a negative.
Exactly, which is why he followed up by saying >>4896
"They are too weak and frail. that's why they hire pajeets and arabs to do it for them"
The burden of proof has always been on him.

>>4962
>hyperbole is just being incorrect.
literal brain damage.

Arabs build houses for jews. Jews steal houses from arabs and moved into a built country to claim as their own. Not comparable to whites homesteading wilderness natives claimed ownership of, which was your original claim.
Israel has had a labor shortage since the attack and has been making deals with china and india to import laborers to israel for a reason. Because jews don't build shit.

Are you jewish?

>>4963
>literal brain damage.
If hyperbole doesn't make a statement false, then why are anons making fun of Israel's claim that 6 million died in holocaust?
Isn't that too a hyperbole when the actual death count was far less?

>Arabs build houses for jews. 
Cool, now prove how foreigners do all the work in Israel so your "Jews cant build anything" is true.

Almost forgot,

>>4963
>Not comparable to whites homesteading wilderness natives claimed ownership of, which was your original claim.
Shouldn't be too far off when whites have made use of slaves all around South America.

>>4964
>literally not knowing what hyperbole is
Retarded.

>Now prove something you already proved, but do it again so I can move the goalposts again
Your arguments have been disproven days ago :^)
Try to keep up, retard.

>>4965
The majority of south american and american slaveholders, as well as owners of slave ships were jews. Slaves were largely for agricultural work as constructing was done by tradesmen and settlers.
The homesteading took place long before jews and niggers came with their slaves.
Expansion also took place without slaves.

>>4966
You haven't proven anything aside from "Jewish construction workers are rare in Israel". Please.

>Now prove something you already proved, but do it again so I can move the goalposts again
But that was your goalpost; to prove that "Jews cant build anything".

>The majority of south american and american slaveholders, as well as owners of slave ships were jews...
Good job making another homework for yourself, now find the sources.

>>4966
>Retarded.

>hyperbole /hī-pûr′bə-lē/
>a way of speaking or writing that makes someone or something sound bigger, better, more, etc. than they are:
There is no need to heed your assessment of intelligence if you constantly redefine words in your advantage and moving your own goalposts. You accuse others of being dishonest, yet that's what you've been doing for days.

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>>4967
I'm not here to spoonfeed a retard that doesn't even understand what hyperbole is just so you can keep moving the goalposts and arguing in bad faith.
You can google it. Even jewish sources don't deny it. 

>>4968
>had to reply twice
>had to look up the definition
>still doesn't understand it
lol retard.

To suggest jews are using hyperbole when saying 6 million died in the holocaust is by definition "holocaust denial" and illegal in many jewed countries.

>>4969
This is the 4th day I've been waiting for the proof of "Jews cant build anything". There is no more goalpost to move.

>Even jewish sources don't deny it. 
Let me try this;

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jews-and-the-african-slave-trade/
>over 75 percent of Jewish families in Charleston, South Carolina; Richmond, Virginia; and Savannah, Georgia, owned slaves, and nearly 40 percent of Jewish households across the country did. The Jewish population in these cities was quite small, however, so the total number of slaves they owned represented just a small fraction of the total slave population; Eli Faber, a historian at New York City’s John Jay College reported that in 1790, Charleston’s Jews owned a total of 93 slaves, and that “perhaps six Jewish families” lived in Savannah in 1771.

>in the American South in 1830 there were “120 Jews among the 45,000 slaveholders owning twenty or more slaves and only twenty Jews among the 12,000 slaveholders owning fifty or more slaves.”
The Jews were far from dominating the slave trade. Now you've been caught lying.

>To suggest jews are using hyperbole when saying 6 million died in the holocaust is by definition "holocaust denial" and illegal in many jewed countries.
So Israel is arresting people for denying its hyperbolic statement of "6 million died in the holocaust". 
I can't even comprehend your problem here other than you're thinking of something else that is not hyperbole.

>>4966
>as constructing was done by tradesmen and settlers.
And let me do a part of your homework before I return to work;
https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?psid=3041&smtid=2

>During the 1850s, half a million slaves lived in southern towns and cities, where they worked in textile mills, iron works, tobacco factories, laundries, and shipyards. Other slaves labored as lumberjacks, as deckhands on riverboats, and in sawmills, gristmills, and quarries. 
>Many slaves were engaged in construction of roads and railroads.

You are doing good job not talking about the war.

>>4937
>Lebanon is a HQ for Hezbollah operations, no such thing as the country
Americans are playing a very dangerous game in the long run, what kind of mental gymnastics are that.

Went to drink with some pals some days ago, a couple of them are cool decent guys but very liberal in some ways of thinking yet the absolute decisiveness in saying jews should be eliminated when the Israel topic came around made me finally realize how utterly catastrophic has this war been in terms of optics and propaganda.
Evangelicals and american-style christians are still immune to the hate of jews but practically everyone now regards normal jews as the same brand as folk who bury women up to the neck and stone them. They might respect them or not but they are seen as barbaric and non-compatible with western attitudes.

Japan needed to redefine its political culture and invent several forms of high skill entertainment, along with keep at the toes of the technology sector, for people to forget their war time. Germany with all its goods hasn't been able, thanks to propaganda too, but Israel i can't see recovering from this for at least a generation or two. /k/ related because post-war hurr.

>>4973
This, people are taking yid bait instead of talking or supposing how did the MTAR and new-ish Galil's worked in this sandy urban environment.
So far nothing because jews hide even their dry rations.

>>4976
>Evangelicals and american-style christians are still immune to the hate of jews
I think this is generational. The boomers in general like jews but the younger gens, even those who are Christian will often admit how fucked up Israel is, how Martin Luther despised them etc.

>>4971
I don't see "build house" in that list, do you?
lol you rekt yourself.

>>4970
Well, jews certainly can't build a country, that's why they had to steal one.

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What is the fucking autism that's going on in this thread recently?

More importantly, this happened the other day. That's a pretty big back away from their previous positions. It looks like things are shifting in the middle east. Which is not surprising. Arab governments have to balance between placating America and also their more conservative populations. They've done a pretty good job threading the needle in the past but with America being unable to restrain Israel AT ALL recently has left them in an impossible position.

I'm pretty sure too that if things keep up then Iran will close the strait. If Iran is attacked too severely then Russia will HAVE to intercede on Iran's behalf because of oil. The joker in the deck might be Turkey though. They've got the combined traits of being in NATO, controlling the Bosphorous, and being a safe airstrip for the west to access the middle east. If they are pushed just right they could declare all out for Russia which will change both the calculus for Ukraine and the middle east. The two wars might even link up into a single broad conflict.

>>4984
Saudis have actually been smoothing out things with Iran for some time now. Its just that america chooses to not notice that.
Closing airbases is huge though. It might genuinely prevent conflict in the region.

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>>4984
Can't fucking wait.

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>>4984
Iran and Russia are only allies of circumstance ie. both hate USA
Economically they are competitors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuFGyFLehNw

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The illegitimate state of Israel has captured a string of settlements across the Palestino-Lebanese border.

"Conservative" publications will in three paragraphs talk about
>adult solutions
>stopping proxy war against Russia
>expanding war in the ME with multiple regime changes praising Isreal's desie to fight
I hate my certain aspects of my country, particularly its politicians, and the entire Cathedral that maintains the system.

>>4992
I think the global market for oil is big enough.

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Anniversary soon.

>>5000
Isn't invading the territory of an other country,  you know, a war of aggression? And aren't wars of aggression, like, yucky, and illegal according to international law? If that is so, when can we except a total embargo on Israel? And how long until UN Peacekeepers arrive to take control of the situation?

>>5007
Well you see all those restrictions only exist to keep Israel safe, not to keep others safe from Israel.

>>5007
>UN peace keepers rushing to aid countries that Israel attacks
The US keeps blocking UN intervention, so unless another country wants to grow a pair, then no.