/k/ - Weapons and Militaria

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SAAR! WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING! DO NO ATTACK, SAAR! SAAR!

>>17739 (OP) 
Now begins the hunt for more oil before we run out.

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>>17742
We better get footage of zog bots dying to drones or else I will cast a dark spell upon clown world using the spirit of Hitler.

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>Dear Americans
<DESTROY THIS MAD BRUTE 
>Thank you for your attention to this matter.

>>17743
I have yet to see a 3rd person videos of IDF marauders being blown to pieces.

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>>17739 (OP) 
>Trump plans to take Kharg Island
WE'RE MAKING THE MOTHER OF ALL CLUSTERFUCKS HERE JACK!

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>>17746
Trump has been playing too much battlefield with Bolton.

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Aaaaand he tacoed again
Ffs this useless orange cuck

>>17747
Oh. Oh God he's actually stupid isn't he? Does he not hing that Iran WOULDN'T destroy their own oil infrastructure to keep the resources out of the hands of their enemies? Does he not realize that war isn't a sporting event and that both sides losing is infact an option?

>>17748
And Iran is already denying that they are in talks with the US. Is Trump just talking to some random Iranian and thinking he's talking to top leadership or are the people around him just taking his messages, throring them in the trash, and reporting back later wat ever Trump wants to hear?

>>17750
Israhell should just put trump out of his misery via in minecraft

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>>17748
It took Trump exactly 5 hours and 6 minutes to chicken out. New record?

>>17741
>Pool's open! =)
<J/K LMAO

>>17748
Trump should just step down already. He's not cut out for being president nor israel's greatest goy.

Dup may actually turn the Star Wars delusion that partially lead to this clown war into tangible reality for himself if he keeps this up, there's gotta be a few groups of >Jedi in US politics aggressively competing to be the "heroes" to depose the ebul mad emprah in some form.

>>17752
I wonder if someone had a spine, and told him the truth.

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Poignant 1 koma.

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Feel free to commemorate the current shitshow, Streloks

>>17748
Iran hit too hard and the obvious American "sneak" attack didn't pan out. It makes more sense to just keep these hit and run attacks in an attempt to starve Iran out, at least there would be a semblance of a plan in that.

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Nice kino. Almost like these things are intelligent.

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Buttf*ckers on parade in Tel Aheeb. Persia could do the funniest thing rn.

>>17762
Nah, I think they realize that yheyve garnered a certain amount of western support. Attacking a civilian event would throw that out the window, possibly galvanizing the US's two parties.

The real question is whether Mossad is desperate enough to  hit their OWN pride parade as a false flag?

>>17762
Absolutely not worth it. If they were going to hit Israeli civilians they'd sooner just hit the settlers and police forces in the Gaza strip, maybe the West Bank too.

>>17760
Not really a plan is it if Iran can suffer this much longer than the rest of the world.

Sorry guys, looks like the war's over.
>*checks calendar*
>turns out to be Friday
Oh, wait...

>>17767
Be right back, buying some stock!

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>>17768
Just follow the money, they always tell me.

>>17767
If it maybe isn't a show this time, because Iran and Pakistan are also confirming these alleged talks for once, then it still doesn't matter. It's just a memorandum of understanding about a deal. It's not a real deal.

>>17765
Yeah the real issues still remain. Iran isn't going to give up its nuclear material and Trump isn't going to give up demanding that they give it to the US. Hypothetically if Trump would actually negotiate they could come to some sort of a deal where Iran agrees to dilute the uranium and install it into civilian power plants and possibly agreeing to a enrichment freeze for (X amount of time) as a trust exercise. But that basically just gets Trump back to the day before he canceled the Obama Iran agreement way back in his first term.

On the matter of the Strait they could conceivably negotiate a complete reopening but the sticking point is that Iran now basically wants the same deal that Turkey has with the Bosporus. To be the official gatekeeper. That would actually be a step back for Trump where as before the war Iran's control over Hormuz was hypothetical.

The real sticking point is that Israel isn't going to stop bombing Gaza and Lebanon. Trump would basically have to "abandon" Israel in as much as saying whatever happens between Israel and Iran isn't America's problem and they'll have to figure it out on their own. I cannot imagine a timeline in which Trump would do that and I cannot imagine a timeline where Israel or the US neocons would let him.

>>17771
>The real sticking point is that Israel isn't going to stop bombing Gaza and Lebanon. Trump would basically have to "abandon" Israel in as much as saying whatever happens between Israel and Iran isn't America's problem and they'll have to figure it out on their own. I cannot imagine a timeline in which Trump would do that and I cannot imagine a timeline where Israel or the US neocons would let him.
I can't even imagine the Democrats doing that.

>>17773
One the oil markets collapse America is going to be completely diplomatically isolated.

>>17772
>US and Iran can't even get past an issue of who pays the bill before they can start negotiating
Yeah this shit's not happening. This should be a no-brainer. The US could even concede completely with the stipulation that Iran has to "keep this shit quiet" until after the negotiations are finalized. You would think Trump would jump at any opportunity to end this given how low the oil reserves and artillery reserves are getting.

I'm not sure why Trump keeps announcing these negotiation "breakthroughs" that turn out t be nothing. Possibilities:
>just naked market manipulation
But if it this then it's got to have cutoff point before everyone notices and the markets stop responding. Trump would have to know that.
>Trump has gaslit himself into believing that Iran is in collapse and is just looking for the US to give them an off ramp and make the war end.
Possible since Trump doesn't seem to understand that war isn't Yu-Gi-Oh and doesn't end when you make the other guy's life points go to zero. He keeps going on about how Iran has no navy or air force left and THEY JUST HAVE TO GIVE UP. He seems genuinely confused and angered by it, like he's playing a chess game with Iran and he is declaring checkmate and Iran refuses to acknowledge it and keeps playing.
>Trump is literally being lied to by the people surrounding him
Effectively same as above but worse in all possible ways because it means actually DOESN'T have all the information (or any of it) of what's going on in the war. I'm beginning to lean toward this explanation, in part, because of how he kept attacking reports in the press reporting that Iran isn't about to capitulate and that still have fight in them. Like he was claiming that he has inside knowledge that contradicts what they were saying. The likes of Heagseth and all the neocons would absolutely obfuscate or outright lie to finally have John McCain's war. Bennet is another snake too and seems to want to be some kind of economic Svengali or something.

I don think this isn't a Netanyahu thing because Ben doesn't want a deal at all. He wants Iran to be crushed. The Israeli government has outright stated that they'd rather have no deal than a bad deal because they could just start the war up later when it more advantageous for them.

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>"TRUST THE PLAN, GOYIM.''
>t. NathanAI Yahoo #BR549

>>17777
<just read an article that France is accusing a kike company in interfering in local elections
<same company also targeted Scotland, New York and others

>>17779
When ZOG has funded you with literally trillions of sheqels across the decades, you can afford to splurge a little!

>>17772
This is just becoming tedious. For once Israel has the right idea and just settle this with blows. By media accounts Trump is at the 38th time the deal is close to being completed. There obviously cannot be a deal when it boils down to the other side surrendering with no concessions. Only by one side losing can such a deal be passed.

>>17781
>Only by one side losing can such a deal be passed.
But for that to happen Trump would have to go in with the military and MAKE them lose. Which maybe he could if he bent the entire military apparatus to that end, which would entail pulling men and resources away form other areas. But if he does go in (and he will have to go in with an invasion - standoff strikes wouldn't work regardless) then it'd mean he's sacrificing the midterm and the final two years of his administration to do it what with the skyrocketing gas prices and dissatisfaction from the anti foreign wars part of the Republican constituency. Not to mention the loss of untold American troops and equipment, possibly even including aircraft carriers. And that's to say nothing of what Iran will do to Israel and US assets & bases in the region. And he and his whole administration would be praying that in the time of it no other country "misbehaves" while US is focused on one place.

>>17771
>dilute the uranium
Was this ever seriously discussed? All it sounds like is a binary "yes uranium," or "no uranium" debate.

>>17775
I think he's used to using negotiating pressure tactics to squeeze out what he wants but is baffled by the experience of not actually having the leverage here and Iran being able to hit back whenever he tries shit. So, like a clever lad, he just keeps trying variations on the same tactic, along with attempting to soften Iran with military force, but that's not really a good option for him either. Still, Trump definitely favors limited strikes détentes over full war which he cannot afford, and Iran is getting tired of the US basically waging war at a pace more comfortable to the US's strained military arsenal, so they are now forcing the matter that the US cannot keep fucking around with tit-for-tat bullshit by bringing up resumption of full-scale war.