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I'll start this one with a discussion on China but you'll be free to include any nation that stands between Shitistan and the Philippines.

Conservatives can't stand the Chinese. However, push slightly harder to the right and you will suddenly find all sorts of figures supporting in more or less clear ways the rise of China as a supposedly Jew-free superpower that provides a better future on the world stage. I for one don't trust the Chinese at all. They are developing technologies which are just as invasive as those built in Western nations.

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Wew, that was quick. But I think discussing the Chink menace is a valid topic for a thread. I'll post a question to get the ball rolling: how can a business owner protect himself and his local community from the depredations and underhanded tactics of Chinese businessmen?
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>>7586 (OP) 
>I for one don't trust the Chinese at all. They are developing technologies which are just as invasive as those built in Western nations.
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Nice one, orlog.
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>random general thread on asia
>>7586 (OP) 
>USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST (Pro-chinese are idiots)
>>7588
>bizarre picture with no relevance to anything
The hell is going on here? Can someone explain any of this? Is that the new normal in the Trump II era?
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>>7589
>bizarre picture with no relevance to anything
It's making fun of the fact that orlog didn't properly read/comprehend OP's post (banned him for the exact opposite of what he was saying).
>>7588
I did it so that chink lovers don't come, specifically because OP is a TORnigger.
I don't understand why I shouldn't be neutral regarding the Chinese at least when they aren't immigrating to White countries.

I agree on not trusting them, though. They are shrewd and conniving.
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Chinks are basically jews but retarded.
>>7594
They are though, or did you miss the increasing numbers of them, pretty much everywhere but china? most of the time literally bringing chinese secret police with them.
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>>7598
I have heard of it in Canada and Australia. Where else are they a problem?
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>>7599
I've heard Mexico, the USA, Italy, Britain itself, and various other places, sometimes they run slave operations using other ethnicities other times they just run their Chinese Stasi under the nose of the proper government, and so on, they're sneakier and small, and tend to gravitate towards cities. so they go unnoticed much more easily
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>>7601
Interesting and disturbing. If what you say is accurate then they are in the same position now that the jews were at the turn of the 20th century.
>>7588
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If China goes to war, say over Taiwan, or needs to invade Australia to seize some lands in almost a reverse of Dump's move on Greenland, do we know if Japan would bend over to the United States or decide to roll with China and avoid being trampled? Or could Japan stand as a decent army assuming some country would generously accept to equip it ASAP in a redux of the Ukraine pattern, but less retarded and scammy?
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Replies: >>7633
China isn't on our side, but their rise does weaken ZOG, making it potentially useful for us. WNs need to stop thing in terms of "Is X ideologically good/bad" instead start thinking from the perspective of "Is X useful/harmful to advancing White Nationalism"
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>>7619
The ends justify the means.

However, most who describe themselves as “white nationalists” contradict themselves by hard-lining over petty bullshit like patriotism for “countries” which have only ever been vassal constitutional democracies, not to mention the handbag squabbles between three-Millenia-old sentimentalist role-players (that don’t even believe their religion) and egalitarian Judaism-offshoot pearl-clutchers.

Haven’t you noticed the pattern? White man invents electric automobile; chinks suddenly “invent” shitty electric automobiles. I don’t think the anxious fellows that quake over a portent chinkening post-White revolution consider that they build and maintain their country on the protectionist profits from Temu’s oversized-AirPod-themed timer safes being shipped into the bloated corpulent gullet of the Romanised “White” populace.

Your message is ironic, because you correctly criticise muh idiosyncratic, 3D-printed, insincere “ideology” Fuentites, yet you use the common term “ZOG”.
ZOG stands for Zionist Occupied Government. An awful oversight and term; the majority of Systemites are white race traitors! As for Occupied, all current “constitutions” (naughty list for the infantilised populace), all fake “countries” with flags and anthems and whatnot, they were never legitimate, and shall see scorched Earth.

A better term is the System.
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>>7617
Japan is constitutionally assraped (you’re probably familiar with the German “army” in early Weimar, under the Treaty of Versailles; now, picture that, but adhered to Nip autism verbatim).
The allocated Japanese “army”‘s name is 自衛隊 — literally “guard; myself” — its official English name is “self-defence forces” (LOL).

The genetic quality of the wajin isn’t that much higher than that of the rest of Asia — especially not anymore. They only managed to dominate Asia because they A: were higher genetically than chinks, Polynesian vantablack savages, and south East Asians (low fucking bar) and B: their overly-humble, aloof temperament was receptive to White man’s inventions.

Japan has no chance of becoming a Chink vassal state. If neo-Tokyo explodes in the Orient, then Japan will be used like a tissue by the American System, if that. Japs are so innately conservative that they’ll probably lapse gently about in parliamentarian daydreams while the last, long fight is raging. These are racial rice farmers.
>>7619
>>7632
>WNs need to stop thing in terms of "Is X ideologically good/bad" instead start thinking from the perspective of "Is X useful/harmful to advancing White Nationalism"
>The ends justify the means.
While I don't necessarily disagree with either of you, I do believe both premises are valid and compatible, it's just a matter of mindset. I think one of the most important things in this fight is that our methods have to be congruent with our ideals, lest we lose our way. Drug trafficking for example is a very lucrative activity that gives its perpetrators much in the way of power and influence, but it's an instrinsically degenerate phenomenon that actively worsens the quality of life of our communities. Even if the resources we gained form it allowed us to purchase weapons and bribe officials and so on, even if we forbid dealing to White customers, would you say pushing drugs benefits our race? If we act like common criminals, we risk beginning to think ourselves as such.

Now, before there's any misconceptions, I do not advocate for inaction and ineffective political games, I'm all for clandestine activity and direct action against the System and all its elements. I am merely arguing that our choice of target and the consideration of the long-ranging effects should be priority, and scrutinized under the lens of our ideals. For instance, robbing stores to finance our efforts is no better than what the average nigger criminal does, but the character of such an action changes if we only attack stores owned by kikes, niggers, towelheads or chinks and leave White-owned shops alone, barring those owned by outspoken race traitors. That sends a message, it makes non-White business owners feel unsafe and unwelcome in the community and will encourage them to leave, opening more space for White business owners to prosper.

Likewise, the cliche stereotype of "shooting random niggers at Walmart" does have a grain of truth to it. Shooting random people in a supermarket does nothing but put our members at risk and vindicate the image the System paints of us as deranged thugs and terrorists engaging in mindless violence. However, hitting ethnically segregated spaces such as synagogues, mosques, prominently black churches and ghetto hives sends a strong message of ethnic character. There is in fact merit in hitting soft targets, namely the psychological impact, the feelings of danger and alienation in the target demographics, and the stark undeniability of these actions' ethnic motivation. This also applies to race traitors. Keep hitting journalists, nigger lovers, shabbos goyim, race mixers, those who help border hoppers, businessmen who make deals with chinks, etc. and you'll see the message sink in before long, with all its accompanying effects.

This also means however, that we have to look inward as well. Our disciplinary standards must be rigid and absolute. Anyone who commits a rape (for example), even of a prisoner or some other enemy, should be executed immediately. We need to set an ironclad example. We are a higher class of being than our enemies, we must act like it, or we become no better than another gaggle of rats fighting other rats for a bigger piece of the cheese wheel.
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Invasion of Pajeestan

Yes, Asia is also about India and our friends the street shitters. So let me share with you a link to Amren. Sure, they certainly cave in on some topics and we know which ones, but here's a chilling account of the hurdles of a White man in a tech dominated sector. It reads like a psychological thriller.

https://www.amren.com/blog/2025/01/a-white-man-in-the-indian-dominated-tech-sector/

At least with niggers you know they cannot pretend being your equal and they cannot supposedly compete for highly qualified works. Note that the author focuses on Indian, but he also quickly mentions East Asians, who we know have been imported en masse in the US and have been given access to our knowledge for many many years, only to take it back home and use it against us.
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>>7654
This whole accout is just further beating-a-dead-horse proof that Whites are the least unified race and are suffering for it. Whites need to stop decrying the Indian/Chinese in-group preference and simply adopt it and then kick the shitskins out.

I hate reading these articles because they all have that meek, passive
>I'm not racist but...
attitude. Become racist or die.
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>>7655
The standard is to only ever like members of your own race. Any exception is a traitor and it should simply be exacted.
>>7655
Agreed. AmRen is pretty much a cancer for this and other things (their recent Greenland article is infuriating) but the article was definitely relevant. Indian nepotism is a thing, a very real and strong thing, and it's utterly biased. The talk of "white privilege" is such an easy weapon to use against us because we don't defend ourselves against this libel, or more precisely we think that we need to and the only way we could is to pretend it does not exist as a gesture to refute the accusation, which the non-Whites refuse anyway.
The other solution we're given is to accept that this unfair and nasty privilege exists and we should espouse the struggle against systemic and endemic racism that emanates from the White oppressors and abusers, to fight against our own racial interests to support those of the other encroaching parasites.
But there's only one real solution to this. If there ever is any kind of white privilege, and there is, it is totally deserved, we earned it, because we are honest hard workers and great inventors and we have absolutely no interest nor any god mandated obligation to share our wealth with any other race, especially since they would never do it for us. But too many Whites keep projecting their sympathetic views onto other races, thinking we're alike, ever so generous and we all think the same way in this connected lovely one world global village. Which all stems from the Jews' antiracist spell they cast upon us.

We must embrace racism and we must not be ashamed of maintaining our privileges.
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>>7636
>Drug trafficking for example is a very lucrative activity that gives its perpetrators much in the way of power and influence, but it's an instrinsically degenerate phenomenon that actively worsens the quality of life of our communities. Even if the resources we gained form it allowed us to purchase weapons and bribe officials and so on, even if we forbid dealing to White customers, would you say pushing drugs benefits our race? If we act like common criminals, we risk beginning to think ourselves as such.
Drug trafficking could be a great idea.
As for bribe officials, be better than this. Systemites have extermination coming their way at a hundred miles an hour! To waste money beyond the cents for a hollow-point round!?
You’ve got into a loop. You’re also thinking irrationally and too sensitively. Drugs are here, they will be here tomorrow, and it’s either money for the betterment of our folk or money to pay off an overweight mestizo druglord’s fifth swarthy 12-year-old residential prostitute’s four-toothed pimp. You may hate it and I’m starting to itch for my pocket knife too but this is the free capitalism we will purge from mutilating our people.
Criminality, common criminals — criminality is usually a System term. Hence an English man who shouted at a wog in public yesterday would be a criminal, “hate criminal”. The fact is, the pig System’s concept of criminality is completely invalid, because it is in conflict with criminality against our kinsmen. Criminality in the eyes of the System is neither good nor bad, because the System has no authority, it is only important if you get captured by the pig enemy.
The quality of life of any community that could be called white at this point is so utterly abysmal — there would be no fruit in the conservativeness of attempting to improve it! Rather — everything must be worse, we mustn’t attempt to prevent anything but the poisoning of our blood — because the revolutionaries of tomorrow won’t hail from a nice, gated community anyway.
Even if the preceding be factored out, realise the stakes here are higher than causing a few teenage girls to develop a crack addiction. Not that we even need to sell addictive drugs! By the way, you should realise the anti-“drug” hysteria of the 80s was an effort to prevent retarded niggers and the otherwise severely dysgenic from removing themselves from the ghetto gene pool by pumping themselves full of too much heroin, then later fentanyl.
Psychedelics may be a delight for the white man!

>For instance, robbing stores to finance our efforts is no better than what the average nigger criminal does
1. That’s incorrect because nigger criminals (well, there’s a non-sequitur here, because niggers have scarcely indeed had the organisation to rob a bank, and mostly just monkey mug women with jammed glocks.) in your example rob banks for THEMSELVES, for hedonistic bitch fuggin sheeeeit or coon-hash or a sports car or whatever. Whereas, for our folk, donated almost or entirely towards a “the Organisation” (some white insurgency), it’s apples and oranges, and it kind of seems like you have a residue of “niggers committing crimes (against the System’s law) means they’re bad” — a dangerous, alt-right-esque territory and metric.
Regardless, of course, there are many Jewish or notorious race traitor-ran targets, etc. But corporations have more money, and no corporation which has ever touched a non-white shall be spared, after all.
>Likewise, the cliche stereotype of "shooting random niggers at Walmart" does have a grain of truth to it. Shooting random people in a supermarket does nothing but put our members at risk and vindicate the image the System paints of us as deranged thugs and terrorists engaging in mindless violence.
Not really. It just directly paints an image of the next forgettable chudjak that killed three niggers including himself which will be replaced before the pigs even find his warm, lanky corpse.
>However, hitting ethnically segregated spaces such as synagogues, mosques, prominently black churches and ghetto hives sends a strong message of ethnic character. There is in fact merit in hitting soft targets, namely the psychological impact, the feelings of danger and alienation in the target demographics, and the stark undeniability of these actions' ethnic motivation.
Arguable, but never as a lone-wolf attention-seeking failed-school-shooter spaz. Hitting targets in ways in which you won’t get caught — like arson — that’s a better idea all-around, though a brigade openly initiating localised race war could be brilliant.
>This also applies to race traitors. Keep hitting journalists, nigger lovers, shabbos goyim, race mixers, those who help border hoppers, businessmen who make deals with chinks, etc. and you'll see the message sink in before long, with all its accompanying effects.
These are much higher value targets. The System — the race traitors — and of course, the Semites — if you really are going to shoot in public, go after these! Looking at the situation, possibly inspired by Saint Luigi Mangione, Trump shooters, etc., a high-up race traitor will be exterminated, and the domino effect — it’s so tense here. I think when that happens in the next few months or so, it will start a chain reaction.
>This also means however, that we have to look inward as well. Our disciplinary standards must be rigid and absolute. Anyone who commits a rape (for example), even of a prisoner or some other enemy, should be executed immediately.
That’s a good idea, because:
Rape of non-white —> poisoning of our blood —> Racial crime
Rape of kinswoman —> not only the abuse of a kinswoman, but may burden her with a child to which she is a single mother, not to mention, she may see her rapist within the child, etc. etc. —> Racial crime
Rape of race traitor —> potentially spreading their genes —> Racial crime.
>We need to set an ironclad example. We are a higher class of being than our enemies, we must act like it, or we become no better than another gaggle of rats fighting other rats for a bigger piece of the cheese wheel.
Godspeed.
>>7658
they don’t care whether it exists or not. They just blurt it out to make you feel ashamed and twiddle your fingers. They are subconsciously aware of might making right; that is why they have perfected, aggressive, loaded quips to make you stutter “n-n-n-no I’m not racist haha uhm… what about black privilege hahaha…” whilst they tighten their grip.
They are race traitors. You should ridicule them whenever you are unable to directly exterminate them. You should never stand for a moment their impertinence.
Whites have privilege? Good! Non-whites have no right to be alive! Death to all non-whites! You’re getting killed with them, race traitor! Shout louder than them! Smirk wildly as their fat, smug face warps into panic and confusion at doubling-down, and the “racism” card not initiating their victory there and then. Are you the dominator or the dominated? “Yes, that’s because we whites are superior, and non-whites are inferior, our privilege is in our superiority” throw it in their fucking face! It’s how THEY win, because they’re not moderate cowards that start twiddling and denying — even acknowledging — accusations like a punished spaniel at his master’s hand. Nor is your opponent about to fumble over a convoluted excuse-like mumble that will immediately be forgotten by all parties including audience.
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Occidental women are ((( encouraged ))) to be several of these: assertive, dominant, fat, ugly, badly dressed, neglected, ungendered, annoying, noisy, smug, slutty.
Meanwhile, the creatures from Asia are animefying (sigh) themselves for erotic purposes, also as bait for their often pronographic channels and young White men are falling for this. You will say that these hoes are definitely playing on the slutty aspect, but in some Eastern Asian countries (leaving out South Korea for example) they don't have whole armies of feminists in power to tell men that their male gaze is toxic and hurtful while conveniently ignoring the women who bring themselves to be seen as sexual objects, to which they will say that if women do this it's because of disgusting men, while others will say that these women can do what they want with their bodies and they're empowered and right to exploit the desperate unsatisfied lust of incels and chuds.
>>7586 (OP) 
Anon should not have been banned for this op. He isn't even being pro-china. Wtf
>>7786
Orlog isn't a leader, he's just a main manager of an IB and I don't recall him claiming to be anything else. He does what he had to do and that's fine by me.
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>>7786
>>7795
>/fascist/ doesn't have a fascist leader
The memes write themselves.
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To reiterate a question from earlier in this thread, how does one as a business owner protect his business and his local community from predatory chink businessmen?
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>>7867
By burning down chink businesses with the chinks inside.

But seriously, it depends on the situation, I'd reckon. If they're trying to muscle in on your trade, there must be a way to out-compete them, appeal to the inherent ethnocentric nature of even Whites who don't think of themselves this way, to deprive your competitors of business.
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>>7874
>But seriously
Oh, don't worry. The first is a valid option. The latter, while noble, is a much more difficult goal to achieve. I've found that the core issue is the selfishness of this era, where the average businessman worries about his own pocket first and foremost. He doesn't trade with chinks and other foreigners because he truly prefers them to his own countrymen, he just thinks of those foreigners as the key to a more lucrative deal. He might talk at length about the corruption and incompetence of every other businessman and politician in his nation, but he's not interested in solutions and so he doesn't give a shit what happens to the rest of the country (and vice versa). More to the point he's been raised and trained to believe he has to compete with his neighbor, so there's no spirit of solidarity whatsoever.

How to break the bluepills out of that conditioning is a whole matter in itself, but in the meantime, if there's to be a pro-White Organization (in the Turner Diaries sense) it should create a network between all businesses affiliated with the Organization, whether they serve as a front or not. That way it'd be easier to coordinate actions such as promoting discounts for "good customers" (an euphemism for Whites, of course), public community service, charity, and other similar ways to strengthen the bonds between members of the local community, as well as better organizing against foreign business encroachment. More ambitiously, the most trusted members among the legitimate side of the Organization should be in contact with the underground side of it, to take out business rivals and other foreign invaders and parasites.
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>>7877
Well, it sounds like you're better connected with your local business community than I am with mine. Without knowing anything about the specific situation, I am sure you can overcome them.
And since I am not sure what the legality is concerning advocating burning Chinese businessmen alive, I will wish you good fortune whatever you decide to do.
>>7865
He's just a BO for kuraiseiku.
>>7867
Only by networking with your people even if it's very little. You may not play the race card but you can play the victim one and make (huwhite) people feel bad for you. Just exagerate things up about them just coming in and taking everything and being mean too and so self-centered and these Chinamen being latent-racists. That should at the very least get you love points from normies.
But if you're facing a tidal wave and chinks are coming in your neighborhood there's not much you can do against their own network and the potential mafia they rely on. We're like feeble virgins in comparison, we respect the law and never do shady underground shit. We trust the law, the government and god, in whatever order.
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The Chinese labor curve as a projection is nuts.

Source: Doc A, Figure 4, at commission.europa.eu/topics/eu-competitiveness/draghi-report_en#paragraph_47059
>If White people were as racially conscious as jews or Chinese or Indians or even Arabs, we would be invincible to jewish subversion.
True. I don't expect that in the better future all Whites would think like that, but if at least one major group could carve a path through this genocidal situation, then this White authority should be acknowledged, respected and obeyed to as the de facto supreme racial authority. An entity gathering all the biological, scientific and spiritual principles in the defense of the White blood, beauty, honesty and our collective future. Then all other nations with large enough White population would have to be forced to submit to this global entity.
>In other words, the Chinese are EXTREMELY ethnocentric and EXTREMELY racially conscious, with deep hostility to outsiders... like the jews.
Of that they certainly are, they have not been exposed to the kind of subversion that's typical of our Christian societies, but that has not prevented Jews from settling in China. The Jews don't care because they either form their ghettos or live so close to wealthy people that they don't even need to be bothered by the popular resentment that may exist.
I was talking about Christianity but please consider that Buddhism is not so different in principles to Christianity. A slightly different Buddhism can easily find its way into a society assuming enough money is poured into it and it just happen to be a curious fact that many Jews have been getting into Buddhism to shill a very different and pacified version of it, more tolerant and soft.
The second issue with the argument about a Chinese racial cohesion is that they are above all closer to a social mindset than the more individualistic one of Whites, so much that it is easy to affect vast quantities of Chinese people all at once. Do not forget that the Jews often aim for the highest rungs of the ladder, they don't waste time with the masses. With China, controlling more than a billion people is not so different than ruling over ten million people as long as the main power is corrupted. Now the Chinese have their own mafia and a couple hermetic orders of their own but I wonder how much sealed they truly are. As we saw with communist China, these supposedly strong, obscure or underground groups were totally eclipsed by the Jews within a decade or two. Communism worked very well precisely because of the sort of mind hive mentality that the Chinese can easily be prone to, suited to communism that presupposes an ant-like social structure based on would-be scientific principles.
Say that China is economically strong. With this and a very limited history of non-Chinese immigration (leaving out the debates about how many times the country was invaded and rolled over), in the end it's still a teeming mass of slit eyed people. With this current prosperity it would be hard for any company or government to argue that there's a need for migrants, especially when there's a vast reservoir of Chinese people who are still living in poor conditions. That's a lot of people ready to work for pennies and all the more barriers against forcing non-Chinese people into China. Besides, with about a billion and four Chinese, any migrant community would be pushed into an irrelevant status of being an invisible minority. So the Chinese have this advantage. But on paper their economy is a bit illusory. Once the GDP is spread over the whole population the ratio per capita bombs. The country is obscenely dependent on export for capital and import for food. A wrench thrown into this oiled global market mechanism would cast powerful ripples through China's own economy. Upheavals are tricks the Jews love to use to weaken a country. They'll then proceed to seize assets and install themselves as economical counselors. Those wealthy kikes would marry the sexiest Chinese whores and from there bind families across the two sides of the globe. I'm using the future tense but that is what is already going on. For this the Jews don't even need to settle in China because many Chinese expatriates are already worming their way into Western societies, in particular all the Western coast of North America. The most successful of them can be seen to begin intermarrying with Jews, sometimes the most orthodox of them. It's just a question of time. Blood ties and vast sums of money will seal the deal. You don't even need to dig beyond wikipedia to already find clues of the Jews getting there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China#21st_century
Any nation that hated them, any nation aware of the content of the Jewish faith and what Jews are up to would have killed them or expelled them a long time ago. It's simply not the case in China. Orthodox families and rabbis live in China.
>Secondly, you mention jews in control over some unspecified Chinese companies. Are they?
When I talked about Chinese people being honorary Jews, I viewed this from their cultural approach to money. If you've not looked into it then you wouldn't imagine how debased and materialistic the Chinese mentality is regarding money.
Teaching the economical principles of the Talmud is not unheard of in certain Chinese financial and economical schools.
Chinese celebrities with mixed origins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China#Epitomes_of_Chinese-born_people_having_Jewish_ancestry
And this  https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-jewish-dynasty-in-a-changing-china-11590688537
>>Michael Kadoorie (second from left) with David Li, CEO of the Bank of East Asia (fourth from left), and other guests at the opening of the Peninsula Shanghai Hotel in 2010.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadoorie_family
https://www.ckbiobank.org
http://ckbiobank.pku.edu.cn/xmgk/xmjj.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLP_Group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongkong_and_Shanghai_Hotels
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociedade_de_Turismo_e_Divers%C3%B5es_de_Macau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shun_Tak_Holdings
Ehtnic-Chinese business and capital is over-represented and dominates South-East Asia.
https://worldcrunch.com/china-20-1/what-jews-can-teach-chinese-a-view-from-china#toggle-gdpr
>>It is also beyond the imagination of outsiders how powerful the Jews are within mass media. Major U.S. newspapers, television networks and film production companies are either largely owned or controlled by Jews. Also, top American Internet companies such as Google and Facebook were also founded by Jewish people.
>>There is also another important distinction: Longstanding cooperation and interaction between America and Israel have forged a tight alliance. Whereas the Jews in America feel righteous fighting in Washington for Israel's favor, there are enormous differences between China and the United States today — in culture, politics and ideology. It is a relationship between competitors or even rivals. For this, and other reasons, Chinese-Americans' identification with China rarely continues from the second generation onward. This makes it almost impossible for ethnic Chinese to fight for China's interests.
Meaning that these same people, more or less mixing with Jews, would have about no fidelity towards China.
Jews of the Ningbo community leaving China on their own:
https://www.jewishningbo.org/
>>Please be advised! As the Jewish community of Ningbo left China, the Chabad in Ningbo will be closed temporarily. Feel free to reach out via Email or WhatsApp for more information.
>>Please consider partnering with us as we embark on our next mission - establishing Chabad in the country of Andorra
https://www.chabad.org/jewish-centers/location/1-1463/Ningbo-China
https://www.chabad.org/jewish-centers/location/1-397/Beijing-China
Considering what amount of power the Jews have taken over European nations, if we were to subdivide China into many artificial state-areas that would come at about several dozen million people each at most, each one of them would need to have a Jewish population in the five or low six figures at most.
https://aish.com/hong-kong-and-the-jews-6-facts/
Which means that with information such as
>>Hong Kong, a Special Administrative Region of the People’s Republic of China, boasts over 7 million residents, including 5,000 Jews.
Reform and Orthodox Jews who are known to have the largest families would merely need to multiply their presence in Hong Kong by anywhere from five to thirty to really start gaining some power in those areas. See the following trend:
>>Hong Kong’s Jewish community dates to the mid-1840s and has contributed to the rise of Hong Kong from a sleepy backwater to the global, dynamic region it is today. Here are six surprising facts about this robust community.
So they had a lot of money but stories will probably not focus on that too much or even pretend they struggled and some shit.
There's more to read about Sassoon, Nathan, Belilios, Odell, Bard.
>>In 1882, about 60 Sephardi Jews called Hong Kong home. The population grew slowly. By 1959, there were 230 Jews, evenly divided between Ashkenazi and Sephardi communities. In the 1960s, more Jews began to immigrate to the city, vastly expanding the Jewish population in Hong Kong. Today, over 5,000 Jews call Hong Kong home.
With an article likely published after 2010, at most 2020, we can say that in about half a century, the HK Jewish population increased over twenty one times. These people have strong communities, they have money and they breed a lot.
Jews represent 2.2% of the US population but that high of a concentration is not required for them to control a nation. It's the maximum. Nevertheless, if that's anywhere how numerous they need to be to turn China into Bug Central, then they would need to have about 30 million Jews in China. But I don't believe they need to go that far because a lot of China's power is located in the major cities, flourishing with business opportunities. Beijing (Pekin), Chengdu, Shangai, Shenzen and Hong Kong are the cities where the Jews would need to settle and multiply. If you give these cities' respective provinces a population between 50 and 100 M, Jews would need to reach about 1.1-2.2 M to have a massive grip on the nation and that really is about the upper end of the range. Would they only need ten times less, well then if we pick those 5000 jews from HK and give them another half a century of continuous demographic increase, they'd reach a population of 108,700 tape worms in a nation that is seeing a significant decrease of its birth rates.
Now, since we were looking into prominent Jews being standing at the helm of important companies within Chinese territory, I remembered something I once read on some forum or maybe the commentaries of another website, how some French Jews were related to Wuhan's Virology Institute and its P4 laboratory, often claimed to be directly related to Covid-19, which we know is a globalist project through and thorough.
https://middleeasttransparent.com/in-the-jungle-of-wuhans-labs/
>>According to him, the director of Inserm at the time, Yves Lévy, husband of Agnès Buzyn, the future health minister, “insisted a lot” so that he would « kill two birds with one stone » and come also inaugurate the P4 in the name of France. Franco-Chinese cooperation on research into infectious diseases seemed promising. The French government had promised to allocate 1 million euros per year to this laboratory. China promised that the two countries will exchange resources, information and results.
All I can tell from the little info I gathered at the time when Trump pointed his finger at the Wuhan lab is that Yves Levy and Agnes Buzyn are both Jews, with the former being involved in mRNA research and collection of genomic data from citizens, obviously within the context of working on safe and effective solutions to protect the goy cattle.
http://english.whiov.cas.cn/ne/201802/t20180208_189991.html
And my god, that stuff is harder to find than it was even a few years ago. US' and Fauci's NIAID were also involved in the funding of the Wuhan laboratory between 2014 and 2019.
Somehow related:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/nih-official-finally-admits-taxpayers-funded-gain-of-function-research-in-wuhan-after-years-of-denials/ar-BB1mwcLr
You don't even need to have millions of kikes in China to have China do kike things.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210208090926/https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/311625/WHO-WHE-CPI-2018.40-eng.pdf
To wrap this up, look at them trying to rekindle links between the ancient Jewish community of Kaifeng and Jews in America:
https://jweekly.com/2023/09/12/a-talmudic-tale-gets-a-12th-century-chinese-twist-in-childrens-book-aimed-at-diverse-jewish-readers/
>>8367
In response to >>8348
>>8367
The question is, what can we do, as individuals and in small groups to throw a wrench into this hideous machine? Until we can get a proper national/regional/global resistance going, what can we do with our limited resources to thwart this advancing menace?
>>8367
> I don't expect that in the better future all Whites would think like that
It is tangential to the discussion, but I must interject and state that in the past, in an organic society, virtually all White peoples were deeply ethnocentric.
Even today, despite hundreds of billions of dollars spent on the most intensive propaganda war in human history, a huge percentage of White people hold nationalistic, ethnocentric, and politically incorrect views.
If White people were not naturally ethnocentric, we wouldn't exist and there would be no more ethnocentrism among our people. It would have been burned away by the decades of propaganda against it.

>The Chinese are ethnocentric, but this has not prevented jews from living in China.
There is a vast difference between tolerating a minority in your country and being controlled by that minority. Gypsies live in the UK. But they do not control the UK. 
> it is easy to affect vast quantities of Chinese people all at once
The how is key here. Chinese are ethnocentric authoritarians. Essentially, the only people they respect are powerful Chinese. 
People hugely misunderstand non-White "communism" and project White communism onto non-Whites. A great example of why this is foolish is Zimbabwe. Officially, the blacks are "communist" but I suspect even you recognize that they are communist in name only. Really, they're Shona nationalists. Not even black nationalists but a specific ethnos within Zimbabwe. Communism for non-Whites is never taken seriously. ONLY White people are romantic enough to take communism seriously. For everyone else, especially Chinese, communism means "high status word from silly White people we use to describe our own racial supremacy within our country"

On your list of Chinese jews: Unless I'm missing something, the real ranks of these people would be akin to middle class bourgeoise. And a LOT of these names aren't even "Chinese" jews, but jews who were born in Hong Kong and now live in America and have basically zero influence in Chine, such as Mike Medavoy, a film producer for Hollywood who, as far as I can tell, has not even produced a single film directed at Chinese. These are ALL directed at American Whites. You, of all people, should know that the location of one's birth is irrelevant. What matters is the nature of the individual in question. 

Lastly, I want to "game plan" with you what a jewish takeover of China would even look like. 
Firstly, jews wield dictatorial power over the US government through their control over media. This is well documented & talked about at length.
Secondly, jews were able to infiltrate into American media because America had stupidly adopted a garbage dump mentality towards foreigners. 
Thirdly, jews used their control over media to further propagandize Americans into being open and accepting of foreigners. They do this, obviously, so that no one will find it weird and threatening that jews and not White people control White media. 

If jews tried to push open borders and diversity in China today, they would be instantly outed as dangerous foreigners and either laughed out of power or killed. No sane Chinese, Japanese, or for that matter, German or Anglo would tolerate foreigners advocating foreign invasion of their homeland. It is an absurd position that is only possible now because Germans, Anglos, Irish etc are sick in the head thanks to decades of propaganda. Chinese are not affected by this because they don't care about the holocaust and they don't care about being a racist. So long as jews cannot trick Chinese into ignoring the obvious foreign nature of the jews, they are safe.
This is not praise of China as a state but a simple, objective analysis on the nature of race and jews which one could apply to any race. 
Arabs are another great example of this. Jews could not trick Arabs into adopting the individualist mindset of liberal capitalism. As a result, jews literally cannot control Arab media and, as a result of this, Arab media is deeply hostile to jews.
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>>8372
> America had stupidly adopted a garbage dump mentality towards foreigners.
To clarify, I mean that Americans adopted the mentality that their country was a garbage dump where the world could flush its refuse in and we just had to accept it.
It's a bit more complex than this but tolerating blacks and allowing anyone with pale skin to enter created a very unhealthy outlook towards foreigners.
>>8372
>It is tangential to the discussion, but I must interject and state that in the past, in an organic society, virtually all White peoples were deeply ethnocentric.
That's almost a perfect society you have here, far into the future. I'm thinking more along the lines of a closer net improvement of our situation but this being mainly the result of a major influential group of Whites while a lot of softies are lagging behind or would like if they still could indulge their desires to consume infected cultural materials.
>There is a vast difference between tolerating a minority in your country and being controlled by that minority. Gypsies live in the UK. But they do not control the UK. 
During the communist era the Jews were pulling the strings through the monetary support of the Chinese leaders and even before that there were a few families who seem to have had a notable influence of Chinese economy.
We are lacking a clear vision of what happened between the communist era and the modern Chinese society. If there would have been an internal purge that we never heard of, it would be hard to find evidence of this but it would be appreciated and we would logically expect antisemtism to have risen to such heights that even lowly Jews would have felt the heat and been put under pressure by anonymous groups to leave. But there is no evidence of this at all, only our ignorance of the evolution in the balance of power within the highest levels of the Chinese government.
>nigger Communism
Just like nigger Christianity, it's always pulled down to chimping because niggers just can't maintain anything that's too intellectual. Also nationalism wasn't foreign to Communists in Russia and it's definitely in the name of the defense of their country that the reds fought against the evil White Russians and their external allies.
>For everyone else, especially Chinese, communism means "high status word from silly White people we use to describe our own racial supremacy within our country"
Communism in China really went full steam retardo with the blind and trademarked self-sabotage of their own future, it had been very real for a time, not a mere LARP.
>You, of all people, should know that the location of one's birth is irrelevant. What matters is the nature of the individual in question.
And? Jews are mobile and I gave you a list of names that are directly related to China, including companies operating within China, not mere expats who are Chinese only on postcards or something just equally superficial. Their population in Hong Kong has grown twenty one times within half a century and their communities always have a mix of orthodox people who keep the faith pure and liberals who practice interracial marrying, and a few super liberals who get lost in the host's mass as waste but who are the Jews the indigenous people know the most and use as a representation of what the entire local Jewish community is, totally deluted.
>If jews tried to push open borders and diversity in China today, they would be instantly outed as dangerous foreigners and either laughed out of power or killed. 
Certainly, and China represents a different situation as I explained where they have a lot of demographic material to spare before even coming close to needing some external cheap labor, especially since India has replaced China in some areas because Chinese's quality of life has improved overall.
But a racial replacement policy isn't necessary for the Jews to control a nation because that's more of a final step when they have decided they want to destroy said nation.
>So long as jews cannot trick Chinese into ignoring the obvious foreign nature of the jews, they are safe.
Perhaps but if they truly understood how foreign this nature is, they would have kicked out a long time ago. But they could not because they would be hit by boycotts and a risk of economic holy war against China.
Leaving aside the obvious production and use of mass surveillance technology that is currently being sold to Western nations, the Chinese are in a far less precarious situation than we are, that is certain.
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>>8382
>the Jews were pulling the strings through the monetary support of the Chinese leaders
To what degree this gave jews control over the Chinese state is debatable, but the fact is that today, Chinese leaders are virtually free of this influence. Unlike America, China runs its own bank and is also rich enough (I am talking about their elite, not their farmers) to fund their own objectives. Thus, I judge the Chinese state outside of the jewish empire. This doesn't make China "based" or inherently friendly towards White nationalism because, surprise, China is Chinese and literally no one apart from White people are altruistic towards foreigners.

>nationalism wasn't foreign to Communists in Russia
What you say is true. However, in broad strokes, White "communists" tend to embrace race denialism. At least their leaders claim to. And today, modern communists literally choose to ally with capitalists to suppress White working class resistance to multiculturalism. 

>I gave you a list of names that are directly related to China, including companies operating within China,
But many of those names, such as Mike Medavoy do not operate in China. He once worked with a Shanghai film studio to produce a film set in China (about poor persekwuted jews) but this mini-series was never even produced. EVERY other film he has produced was for an American audience. 
Another example of a potentially powerful jew is a Hong Kong billionaire named Michael Kadoorie. But his money comes from a hotel monopoly, not media control and, besides, he is situated in Hong Kong. Being a billionaire is a great thing, but without control or even influence over Chinese media, he has little influence over state policies. Furthermore, most of the jews in this list (some of which are dead for hundreds of years btw) are "from" Hong Kong or Shanghai. These are former colonies that Beijing holds at arms length and treats like foreign occupied land. Hong Kong, while not insignificant, is not the spiritual heart of the Chinese state in the way that New York or DC is the spiritual sewer of the US.

Again, what if roles were reversed and jews owned powerful hotel monopolies in Las Vegas but all American media companies were in the hands of White people? Do you really think we wouldn't be in a much better place?

>a racial replacement policy isn't necessary for the Jews to control a nation
If America was purely Anglo, or even just White, and jews were the only foreigners, would they have an easy time controlling the nation?
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>>8367
This is what I have been saying as a monarchist.
National Socialists love their Aristotle pill, esp. the Odinists & other pagans, because Aristotle's maxims about natural slaves and Oriental Kings are convenient in tackling Christianity which is a religion of an Oriental King (so we hear about "slave morality").
The fundamental problem with Christianity is the failure to unite with the political benefit: The Church & secular society are like two camps.
The problem is not with "dynasty patriotism" like Adolf Hitler said in Mein Kampf: the best thing the White race could ever hope for is where the interest of the ruler and the people are united, and Europe never had such a dynasty patriotism like the Far East.
What does this have to do with Aristotle?
Let me say there are white nationalists who cite their Aristotle like a prophet of ethnonationalism, but Aristotle is a false prophet. 
It is Aristotle who convinced the people here to abandon the unitary aims for a pluralistic kind (making diversity a strength). 
It is Aristotle who has convinced you its better to be a community of strangers (a partnership of independent clans or multi-parties*) on some pretense of governing yourselves. 
It is Aristotle who taught that political & economical are not alike and thereby to not form nations like great families. 
It is Aristotle who taught Mixed Constitutionalism and thereby a society mixed of races.

>The second issue with the argument about a Chinese racial cohesion is that they are above all closer to a social mindset than the more individualistic one of Whites, so much that it is easy to affect vast quantities of Chinese people all at once.
It is more complicated than this.
The Far East Asians are more racially cohesive in the Far East because they have learned early on to model their States like a family from Confucian teachings, but the White Man has been swindled by Aristotle's mixed constitutionalism which teaches political societies and economical families are not alike. This divorce of the familial view and the unity of a ruler (like under a household or estate) from the business of political states has caused this rift more than individualism vs collectivism. --It is not individual vs collective that is the issue, like /fascist/ clarifies rather to be the synthesis of these two is the solution.
That is partially why nations like Japan or Korea are big homogeneous blocs -- unitary thinking and a cult of personality is not alien to them... and unlike with Christianity it is well united with their political benefit... White people would be better off if they were like 3rd pic related, monochrome hair and the same shade of eyes, but Whites are altogether a very motley people.

>that presupposes an ant-like social structure
>in the end it's still a teeming mass of slit eyed people
How should that be a bad thing in ethnonationalist terms?
Don't White nationalists want the same? to be a monoculture and have a community of pleasures and pains except in terms of race?

>That's a lot of people ready to work for pennies and all the more barriers against forcing non-Chinese people into China. 
Works good for them.
We have learned from Aristotle that organizing and making the best utility of a nation is Despotism -- like Dr. William Luther Pierce says, although it might hurt to see other Whites in servile condition, it would be preferable to sacrifice some rather than importing foreigners to do all the menial work, which is the predicament we are in. 
Aristotle teaches that a free people cannot do the menial work; so instead of having some of our own do it, we import foreign people and have a mixed society of different kinds of people and that mentality has helped lead to our current situation with this neocolonial racial caste system. Admittedly, this was aided by desegregation mixed with egalitarianism, but that is the issue we have today and that is why Aristotle is not a prophet of white nationalism.
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Aristotle on a mixed or foreign racial underclass:
>The very best thing of all would be that the husbandmen should be slaves taken from among men who are not all of the same race and not spirited, for if they have no spirit they will be better suited for their work, and there will be no danger of their making a revolution. The next best thing would be that they should be Perioeci of foreign race, and of a like inferior nature; some of them should be the slaves of individuals, and employed in the private estates of men of property, the remainder should be the property of the state and employed on the common land. I will hereafter explain what is the proper treatment of slaves, and why it is expedient that liberty should be always held out to them as the reward of their services.
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A problem that isn't discussed enough is that our collective cultural attitude to work is completely skewed and unhealthy. Case in point, there's this sick idea that only "glamorous" jobs should pay a living wage. The kikes pulled a really slick trick when they inserted the idea in the public consciousness that believing any job should pay a living wage is a "leftist" or "communist" idea, and so you have conservatives and libertarians unironically advocating for slave-like conditions in the workplace and saying if you can't make ends meet at your current job you should pick up another because "you're not entitled to" a decent house and food on your table if you have a menial job, as if only executives should live in conditions above abject poverty. Of course, those conservative/libertarian types identify with the executives because they dream of being corporate big shots, deluding themselves that they're one of them and that the big business kikes give a flying fuck about them. I believe Uncle Ted said something about this.

If you try to argue for better workplace conditions or criticize the exploitation of working class people you get snidely accused of being a leftie or a commie and that slams shut any avenue of discussion. Likewise because those on the left advocate for utterly inane and destructive measures in the name of improving conditions for the working class, when they don't openly advocate for replacement migration to "do the jobs the natives don't want to".

Rounding back to the original point, the cultural attitude towards work we have is downright sick. Blue collar workers (even those in trades such as electricians and plumbers) are denigrated as morons who weren't smart enough to get a cushy white collar job. "Janitor" is often used as a punchline for someone who is worthless, condemned to sweep floors and clean toilets because he wasn't good enough to do anything else. Retail employees and similar positions are faced with the same mockery. The truth of these is irrelevant, my point here is that it's insane to heap such abuse and scorn on the people we depend on to keep society running. This attitude where everyone wants to be a captain of industry only foments selfish individualism, social fracture, corruption and unneccesary conflict. Somebody has to pick up the garbage and keep the toilets clean, there's no getting around that. Therefore yes, being a janitor or garbage man should be enough to sustain a family in a decent home. A honest day's pay for a honest day's work. Nobody who works deserves to live in squalor.

Thank you for reading my rant. I think that, besides the strategic aspect of our fight against encroaching foreign influence is to reform the way we look at things. We can't win this fight if we go into it with the wrong attitude. If we hold the same cancerous and decadent values as the enemy, even if we do beat them we'll go back to square one because we'll repeat the same foibles and replace corruption with corruption.
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How many Disraeli's does it take to corrupt England for good?
>>8390
>What you say is true. However, in broad strokes, White "communists" tend to embrace race denialism. At least their leaders claim to. And today, modern communists literally choose to ally with capitalists to suppress White working class resistance to multiculturalism. 
Considering what it took Jews to achieve this in the US and Europe and seeing how China has largely been spared such destruction and poisoning, I don't think we can safely say that the Chinese would fare better than Whites if they were to be exposed to the same kind of madness. As I alluded to in an earlier post, the Jews would likely exploit the links between mainland China and Chinese expatriates who get westernized to infect China by amongst other things intermarrying with Jews and using ways to buy Chinese companies even further.
Now if we were to ignore the technological differences for a moment it would be a good intellectual exercise to define where China stands in terms of autonomy, race realism and blood purity when compared to Europe, an equally old area populated by Whites for eons. I would say it stands somewhere in the 18th or 19th century of Europe.
>Another example of a potentially powerful jew is a Hong Kong billionaire named Michael Kadoorie. But his money comes from a hotel monopoly, not media control and, besides, he is situated in Hong Kong.
And? Hong Kong is almost fully Chinese now and because of the city's still fresh ties to the Eternal Anglo it acts as a perfect backdoor into China. Besides they first operated in Shangai. They may have kept relevant links to key families in this city.
You have missed the part about the part about the CLP Group too or its parent company CLP Holdings Ltd.
https://stockanalysis.com/quote/otc/CLPHY/company/
>CLP Holdings Limited, an investment holding company, engages in the generation, transmission, and distribution of electricity in Hong Kong, Mainland China, India Thailand, Taiwan, and Australia.
>The company generates electricity through coal, gas, nuclear, and renewable resources, such as wind, hydro, and solar.
>It is also involved in the provision of pumped storage services, and energy and infrastructure solutions; property investment activities; and retail of electricity and gas.
Finally you may also want to check the map on the Chabad website of where the Jews have built their religious centers, they're certainly not limited to Hong Kong at all.
>Furthermore, most of the jews in this list (some of which are dead for hundreds of years btw) are "from" Hong Kong or Shanghai. These are former colonies that Beijing holds at arms length and treats like foreign occupied land. Hong Kong, while not insignificant, is not the spiritual heart of the Chinese state in the way that New York or DC is the spiritual sewer of the US.
The geography would barely be of importance if the content that is produced in one point of China is cast all over the country. This may not be the case yet so we will see. Nevertheless, the Chinese may be modelling a growing portion of their entertainment after the type of content produced in the United States, perhaps to find ways to get into this market that they never really bothered to pour into. Would they do this, the Jews would immediately sprout into existence to counsel them and through this they would retro-infect China.
Another reason why geography is overrated is how the members of the Frankfurt School, who are behind the Cultural Marxist revolution, implanted themselves in the liberal California after they got expelled from Germany. It's literally on the other side of the continent's breadth and far away from Washington D.C. and New York. We know all too well how this went.
>Again, what if roles were reversed and jews owned powerful hotel monopolies in Las Vegas but all American media companies were in the hands of White people? Do you really think we wouldn't be in a much better place?
The hotel business is only one part of the activities of the Kadoorie family and I have shown that they manage a considerable amount of China's energy grid while also having a lot of control over key infrastructures in neighboring countries. The holding company is also an investment company and a lot of this can be quite elusive to track, especially if we don't read Chinese.
I will take a much deeper look into this, scrapping the bottom of the barrel if needs be.
>If America was purely Anglo, or even just White, and jews were the only foreigners, would they have an easy time controlling the nation?
The degree of control would be hard to assess. Steering the nation would be more appropriate and it would depend on who is funded and at the helm of the nation. Historically the Jews were able to count on the Freemasons. Is there are Chinese equivalent that is on its way to be very kiked? I doubt the Triad would fancy that and they have one big advantage in that their philosophy and spirituality are massively detached from Abrahamic lore. No matter how much the Jews attempt at subverting Buddhism, which is an anti-life religion for the most part, it would never equal the power Christianity directly or indirectly granted them. But you know, as long as the Jews can jew in China and do their usury shit, it's just a question of time.
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>>8397
Some people have suggested that Aristotle might have been a Jew. They likely are going too far.
>The Far East Asians are more racially cohesive in the Far East because they have learned early on to model their States like a family from Confucian teachings, but the White Man has been swindled by Aristotle's mixed constitutionalism which teaches political societies and economical families are not alike. This divorce of the familial view and the unity of a ruler (like under a household or estate) from the business of political states has caused this rift more than individualism vs collectivism. --It is not individual vs collective that is the issue, like /fascist/ clarifies rather to be the synthesis of these two is the solution.
Bonaparte was putting as members of his family on seats across Europe as he could, but it obviously wouldn't go as smoothly as trying the same thing in a rather mono-cultural and mono-racial country like China in comparison. Yes, I know, it was not so monolithic, there even were oppressed minorities at times but their differences with their oppressors would be very small against any comparison of different houses or kingdoms of Europe. This is also why I believe a larger White group would be needed to take hold over most of Europe to enforce that kind of cohesive vision. We came close to this with the Germans. I love my culture but it's because it's what I have now and which I understand. I know things change too, borders, languages, cultural references, just as much as throughout history it very well could be that our White rulers would have come from a very distant land, but if they did what was right for the people and tried to blend in, they would be accepted very quickly. Respect, help and a hard work to improve everything goes a long way to be accepted by a people.
America doesn't even have this issue in that it's one big super-culture in terms of scope, one language if we ignore the Latinx intrusion.
Also what you state about China may not apply anymore. The people might still work along those cultural principles of unity, but after the communist era, how many politicians really stem from prestigious families that the people would have wanted to see back onto the not-throne?
Also what I said may look racist but if you look into the Asians they definitely entertain a form of higher collective mindset. Now maybe it's the expression of that principle you highlighted, or maybe not, but as seen with Mao, there's a placeholder that exists at the core of this mental and cultural structure that allows for any powerful man settled in that position to take control of the whole. Regarding the topic itself, it's definitely something the Jews have exploited once during the communist era.
> --It is not individual vs collective that is the issue, like /fascist/ clarifies rather to be the synthesis of these two is the solution.
The NSDAP went there. Lots of liberties to people as long as they went with the flow and empowered the people, never threatening it. Which would obviously be shot down in flames by any anti-nazi but which from my perspective is one big duh. It's gripping how such basic principles that the 3rd Reich had revived or plainly invented are considered to inimical to our modern world.
>White people would be better off if they were like 3rd pic related, monochrome hair and the same shade of eyes, but Whites are altogether a very motley people.
It might be easier but it didn't prevent Scandinavians from killing each other too. Besides I like way too much my blondes, brunettes, blue dark or red heads with their straight, wavy or long curly hair, and their brown, hazelnut, green gray and blue eyes. Just like the faces are not the same, some prefer the rounder Dinaric faces, some prefer the high cheekbones, others go for the elongated heads or very pointy faces. That inner diversity is our strength. For sure it makes things more complicated to manage but I cannot complain much in the face of so much diversity and beauty to be honest.
>How should that be a bad thing in ethnonationalist terms?
It's not but also if one finds a way to contaminate the core it would propagate faster through this homogeneous mass.
>Don't White nationalists want the same? to be a monoculture and have a community of pleasures and pains except in terms of race?
Isn't it complicated? There are also those of European decent who don't want to hear about anything White since they more closely identify with their ancient and local cultural identity.
>Works good for them.
>We have learned from Aristotle that organizing and making the best utility of a nation is Despotism -- like Dr. William Luther Pierce says, although it might hurt to see other Whites in servile condition, it would be preferable to sacrifice some rather than importing foreigners to do all the menial work, which is the predicament we are in. 
Well I'm not saying we need people who are barely one step above serfdom, because I've seen many Whites take on jobs which we wouldn't consider very gratifying. I've heard for years that these jobs are scoffed at by Whites but I know it's bullshit. In White areas these ungrateful jobs are taken by Whites. We therefore don't need to reconstitute a barely disguised serfdom. I think the Davos punks wanting to do this to us is already more than enough already. 
>Aristotle teaches that a free people cannot do the menial work
He's full of shit. The people who pick my garbage, who clean my sewers, who repair my toilets, those who clean the streets and pick up the detritus, all of them are Whites. Or were Whites until they were displaced and submerged.
Germany proved that you can have a 100% functional society without shitting on the "lowly" people. You don't ask them to be geniuses but there should be a spot for everyone, as every man and women should find their way and true disposition in the implicit caste system of their society.
>>8398
Nice post but as someone else said in another thread, we should make an effort staying on topic as much as we can and I'm not seeing how this really relate to anything Asian when it's more of a left/right economic thing.
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>>7587
This requires a White-centric community to be as inter-supportive as theirs is. Needless to say we're a bit far from this in certain countries but I could totally see Irish people banding against predatory chinks just like they'd have to filter the cow dung eaters, since the latter will not hesitate one second to gatekeep against Whites as soon as they get a foot in a company, especially a small traditional business. If you want to attract some attention to anti-White behavior you will have to be very clever about it.
>>8404
My bad, I didn't convey the point across properly. What I was getting at is that in order to stand up to wormy kike bankers and predatory chink businessmen is to foment a spirit de corps among our people, and that involves tearing down the soul-crushingly banal and sociopathic worship of selfishness that is capitalism. We have to emphasise the value of work and its contribution to society instead of the solipsistic pursuit of personal profit. Without re-orienting our priorities as a people, we'll never be able to defeat the foreign parasites biting into our economies and sucking us dry. Even if by some miracle we manage to defeat them without changing our cultural attitudes to work and to the economic process, all we'll achieve is replacing one type of social corruption with another.
>>8401
>I don't think we can safely say that the Chinese would fare better than Whites if they were to be exposed to the same kind of madness
Some would argue that the Chinese are more "automated" in their national psyche. Namely that their ethnocentrism, along with a host of other traits, are more instinctive than White people who introspect a lot.
idk about that. Maybe you're right. If the jews succeed at killing us off, the Chinese are next. 
>Hong Kong is almost fully Chinese now
They hold it at arms's length and the Chinese aristocracy seems fully aware that it is an open wound which they need to keep a lid on, lest democracy seep into China and ruin their system. You're right that if the jews do take over China, it will be through Hong Kong, but they are not there yet.

On California vs Hong Kong, this is an intelligent argument. But not one that is fair in my opinion. As odious as it feels to admit, California (hollywood) & Jew York are as much cultural centers in the USA as Washington DC is. Arguably moreso given how media-centric the American population has become. 
I will admit that I am not particularly educated on what media Chinese consume and where it's made. But I have read a few Chinese manga and, suffice it to say, it is a little bit on the patriotic side. Maybe a tad jingoistic. Maybe even a little bit Chinese supremacist. 
Jews seeking to take over China have their work cut out for them because they are starting on the ground floor. I'd wish them luck but I want them all to die so I'd be rooting for the Chinese on that one.

>The hotel business is only one part of the activities of the Kadoorie family 
I take your point. I'm not trying to argue that the Kadoorie family is insignificant. They are billionaires after all. But I am saying that their influence over China is not nearly on the level of Larry Paige/Serge Brin or the Igor family. 
If I were Chinese, I might be starting to get concerned that jews are seizing control of Hong Kong infrastructure. They really should just kill them all now but that would probably lead to US intervention and despite all the chest thumping & boomer pants shitting, China is weak. 

I agree with you that the kikes are trying to take over China. The way to do it is to take over their media or "Americanize" them. Then they need to George Soros their government (funding pro-democracy protests) and liberalize the country.
Then the jews can fuck them up real good and their 3000 year history will come to an end. The jews will make their century of humiliation look like a golden age of Chinese culture. I hope the Chinese like Indians because they'll get 500 million of them. They'll squat and shit in the Forbidden Palace. 
Accepting jews will make China low status.
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>>8408
On Jews having perhaps a more collective way of thinking, as cliché as it may sound, as I explored in a former post that is also a fragility because if you take control of the core you grab the whole thing at once. And Jews always go for the core and only resort to revolution when they have to break through the indigenous hierarchy, which they usually weaken preemptively with strikes, which would be harder for Jews since they're not that well implanted but they have the know how regarding communistic agitation at the factory level; and economical warfare, targeting essential resources such as food or perhaps today energy which is now just as essential, as we've seen in Europe, and can bring a whole economy down. And Energy is exactly what the Kadoorie are in, and they're powerful and filthy rich in this.

Regarding California's Hollywood (Los Angeles), it is true that it's a juggernaught of pozz creation, but back in the 30s it had just begun growing. It was so frail that NS Germany could force their conditions onto the Jews. Would you pick a study of America's cinema industry during the early 20th century I'm pretty sure you would find that Hollywood was not the only place where movies were produced.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_the_United_States#Origins_and_Fort_Lee
>The history of cinema in the United States can trace its roots to the East Coast, where, at one time, Fort Lee, New Jersey, was the motion-picture capital of America. The American film industry began at the end of the 19th century, with the construction of Thomas Edison's "Black Maria", the first motion-picture studio in West Orange, New Jersey. The cities and towns on the Hudson River and Hudson Palisades offered land at costs considerably less than New York City across the river and benefited greatly as a result of the phenomenal growth of the film industry at the turn of the 20th century.
>The industry began attracting both capital and innovative workforces. In 1907, when the Kalem Company began using Fort Lee as a location for filming in the area, other filmmakers quickly followed. In 1909, a forerunner of Universal Studios, the Champion Film Company, built the first studio. Others quickly followed and either built new studios or leased facilities in Fort Lee. In the 1910s and 1920s, film companies such as the Independent Moving Pictures Company, Peerless Pictures Studios, Solax Studios, Eclair, Goldwyn Pictures Corporation, Star Film (Georges Méliès), World Film Company, Biograph Studios, Fox Film Corporation, Société Pathé Frères, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc., Victor Film Company, and Selznick International Pictures were all making pictures in Fort Lee. Many notable actors, such as Mary Pickford, got their start at Biograph Studios.
>In New York, the Kaufman Astoria Studios in Queens, which was built during the silent film era, was used by the Marx Brothers and W.C. Fields. The Edison Studios were located in the Bronx. Chelsea, Manhattan, was also frequently used. 
>Other Eastern cities, most notably Chicago and Cleveland, also served as early centers for film production.
>In the West, California was already quickly emerging as a major film production center. In Colorado, Denver was home to the Art-O-Graf Film Company, and Walt Disney's early Laugh-O-Gram Studio was based in Kansas City, Missouri.
>From 1908, Jacksonville, Florida's motion picture industry saw more than 30 silent film companies establish studios in town, including Kalem Studios, Metro Pictures (later MGM), Edison Studios, Majestic Films, King-Bee Films Corporation, Vim Comedy Company, Norman Studios, Gaumont Film Company and the Lubin Manufacturing Company.
>Picture City, Florida was a planned site for a movie picture production center in the 1920s, but due to the 1928 Okeechobee hurricane, the idea collapsed and Picture City, Florida returned to its original name of Hobe Sound. An attempt to establish a film production center in Detroit also proved unsuccessful.
>The film patent wars of the early 20th century helped the spread of film companies to other parts of the US, outside New York. Many filmmakers worked with equipment for which they did not own the rights to use. Therefore, filming in New York could be dangerous, as it was close to Edison's company headquarters and close to the agents the company sent out to seize cameras.
>An alternative was Los Angeles, which had mild winters, a large selection of places to film, and, most importantly, it was only 90 miles to the border of Mexico, in case they needed to flee from Edison's enforcement agents. By 1912, most major film companies had set up production facilities in Southern California, near or in Los Angeles, because of the region's favorable year-round weather.
Quite interesting isn't it, this last bit? They would definitely not want a strong border between the USA and Mexico!
Then Hollywood rose to first place; it also was a secret hub of communism, even during the red scare and Nixon's pressure put on them. They wouldn't care much anyway because it was just part of the D&C they have refined into a sacred art of its own.
>California's more hospitable and cost-effective climate led to the eventual shift of virtually all filmmaking to the West Coast by the 1930s.
>In Los Angeles, the studios and Hollywood grew. Before World War I, films were made in several American cities, but filmmakers tended to gravitate towards southern California as the industry developed. They were attracted by the warm, predictable climate with reliable sunlight, which made it possible to film outdoors year-round.
Then no wonder why the Frankfurt rats moved there for their new cultural war. It was the perfect place.
California was finally chosen by the Jews because of the climate and even the proximity to Mexico during the early years, to escape some kind of possible persecution. It's a "geography first" decision. Jews would look into a place that's got a good climate and where they can quickly pack things up if it all turns sour. Coastal regions that open up to the Pacific are perfect for that.
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So what about China? I'm going to be lazy and just go digging through wikipedia again plus some other articles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_China
>The cinema of China is the filmmaking and film industry of mainland China, one of three distinct historical threads of Chinese-language cinema together with the cinema of Hong Kong and the cinema of Taiwan. China is the home of the largest movie and drama production complex and film studios in the world, the Oriental Movie Metropolis and Hengdian World Studios. In 2012 the country became the second-largest market in the world by box office receipts. In 2016, the gross box office in China was CN¥45.71 billion (US$6.58 billion). China has also become a major hub of business for Hollywood studios.
>In November 2016, China passed a film law banning content deemed harmful to the "dignity, honor and interests" of the People's Republic and encouraging the promotion of core socialist values, approved by the National People's Congress Standing Committee.
Been there done that as far as Jews are concerned, they saw worse during Nixon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_Hong_Kong
>The cinema of Hong Kong (Chinese: 香港電影) is one of the three major threads in the history of Chinese-language cinema, alongside the cinema of China and the cinema of Taiwan. As a former Crown colony, Hong Kong had a greater degree of economic freedom than mainland China and Taiwan, and developed into a filmmaking hub for the Chinese-speaking world (including its worldwide diaspora).
Taiwan is ((( Westernized ))) anyway. If you say Hong Kong is an open wound, imagine what Taiwan would be once it's absorbed.
Pretty sure Jews would seize as many assets in Taiwan as possible before having the US calm down finally let Taiwan be taken. A nice trojan horse carrying the virus within China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_Movie_Metropolis
>The Metropolis is based in Qingdao, China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qingdao

>https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4924549,00.html
>The Jews and the Chinese: A connection between ‘the world’s most ancient people’
>The relationship between Israel and China is mostly business-related, quite a few Jewish communities found their place in the Asian country over the years. A new Chinese-sponsored exhibition at Bar-Ilan University documents these historical ties.
>When Israeli footballer Eran Zahavi received a proposal to play in the Chinese league, he wasn’t very keen on moving there, despite the large sums of money he was offered. He deliberated for a long time, looked into other options, and even an astronomic salary was unable to make him rush into signing the contract.
>Only when he traveled to the city of Guangzhou and received a promise from the Chabad emissary there, Rabbi Rosenberg, that they would make sure that he and his family had kosher food and would perform a proper Shabbat meal and Kiddush for the family every Friday evening, the footballer was persuaded to sign the multi-million-dollar contract. 
>The Chabad representation in China and the Zahavi example are the essence of the ties between the Far East country and Israel and the Jewish world—financial ties of business people or representatives of Israeli companies, who travel there for a relocation or for short periods for business purposes. In fact, there is no real Jewish community in China today, and the needs of Jewish businesspeople are catered by Chabad houses located in strategic places near the work and business centers.
>Connecting to Jewish creativity and entrepreneurship
>While the connection today is basically a business relationship, a review of history reveals that there were quite a few Jewish communities that found their place in China throughout the years. In recent years, the Chinese government has actually been trying to shed light on China’s Jewish past, and it even sponsored a unique exhibition at Bar-Ilan University featuring the Jewish communities that used to live in China in the past. 
>The second wave of Jewish immigration arrived in China under considerably worse conditions. It included Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe who were forced to leave their homes following repeated riots. Jews from Russia crossed the border into China and resided primarily in the Harbin area. Later, they moved southward, settling in the big cities of Shanghai, Tianjin and Qingdao. These Jews became deeply rooted in local society and left their own mark on it; there is no doubt that their presence had a significant contribution to China’s economic and cultural development. 
And as a relevant sidenote:
>The Chinese talk about the third wave of Jewsish immigrants with a lot of satisfaction, as it helped save the lives of Jews fleeing Nazi Germany. More than 30,000 Jews arrived in Shanghai from 1933 to 1941 after escaping from Europe. In fact, Shanghai alone took in more Jewish refugees than Canada, Australia, India, South Africa and New Zealand combined.
Holy Vey! Thirty thousand kikes dumped into Shangai alone in one wave.
>Since the establishment of diplomatic ties with Israel in 1992, the Chinese regime has been motivated to tighten its relations in Israel, including documenting and cherishing the Chinese-Jewish relationship from the previous century. At the same time, the number of Israeli students studying in China is increasing, and there are also quite a few Chinese students in Israel. 
Forced you say? Did NS Germany feel forced to do any of that despite centuries of Jews roaming German lands?
More stuff to explore:
scholar.google.com/scholar?&q=Fang%2C%20J.%20%281996%29.%20History%20of%20Jews%20in%20Qingdao%2C%20portfolio%20of%20History%20of%20Qingdao%20City%20%28Vol.%2010%29%2C%20Qingdao%20Foreign%20Affairs%2C%20Chinese%20Literature%20Press.
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-981-13-9483-6
>A Study of Jewish Refugees in China (1933–1945)
>History, Theories and the Chinese Pattern
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-13-9483-6_4  (chapter)

The other big studio area, in Hengdian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hengdian_World_Studios
>Hengdian World Studios (Chinese: 横店影视城; pinyin: Héngdiàn Yǐngshìchéng) is a film studio located in Hengdian, a Chinese town in the city of Dongyang, Zhejiang Province. It is one of the largest film studios in the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongyang
>Dongyang (simplified Chinese: 东阳; traditional Chinese: 東陽; pinyin: Dōngyáng; lit. 'east sun') is a county-level city under the jurisdiction of Jinhua in Central Zhejiang Province, China.
It's a little bit south, south-west of Shangai, not too far from Ningbo (see earlier post for the story of Jews in that place) and if you drive further west and a bit north you end right into Wuhan, some hours away.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hengdian_Group
>Hengdian Group (Chinese: 横店集团[8]), abbreviated as HG, is a Chinese private conglomerate founded by Xu Wenrong in 1975 in Hengdian, Zhejiang. It focuses on the fields of electrical and electronic, pharmaceutical and chemical, film and entertainment, and modern services. Since 1996, Hengdian Group has operated Hengdian World Studios, one of the largest film studios in the world.
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>>8413
>>8414
Funny how we had all this diversity of film production centers and we got Hollywood as a highly centralized location to spew propaganda about "diversity. "
If we had had more actual diversity, or had Germany, France, or Italy maintained a viable alternative to Hollywood, there would have been more competitors to give the jews a run for their money. Well, I guess they did and WW2 was the result. Hard to have a native film industry if your cities are bombed to the stone age.

>you say Hong Kong is an open wound, imagine what Taiwan would be once it's absorbed.
True. They'll still do it the second they can get away with it. Taiwan is their Danzig, their Crimea, their Alsace-Lorraine. Then again, I suspect that China is too weak to actually do it. Even if they did, the diplomatic repercussions would be severe.
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It does paint a grim picture tbf. China doesn't seem to be able to resist that much even if it wanted to, which I don't think it does. They have polluted their own lands in ways that cannot be described, they have a love for paper money that is sick beyond measure, and they also have totally welcomed mass surveillance and social rating of individuals in ways that are studied by ZOG in an attempt to import it in our own nations. Wherever China stands on the kiked spectrum, it's only moving in the direction of more, not less. I remember Julius Evola writing about Guenon who thought, back in the first half of the former century, that the supposedly much wiser Eastern societies would resist the dark tide much better than the morally decrepit and void Western societies, only for Evola to point out that decades later, after Guenon died, it merely took decades for the Asian countries to fall to materialistic mindsets which took many centuries to take root in European countries.
>>8421
America has been gatekeeping the cinema industry so fiercely that little to no non-American movie can make it into America unless it's really something that goes with the message, or serves some shady business relation between kikes, or has been totally remade with at the very least American actors even when the original movie featured Whites. In fact the American industry has been far more permissive with non-White productions than with White ones, starting precisely with the ((( Hong Kong ))) movies.
What tactics do Chinese businessmen use to get ahead of native Whites and how can we counter them?
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>>8579
>What tactics do Chinese businessmen use to get ahead of native Whites
Ethnocentrism.
>how can we counter them?
Ethnocentrism.
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>>8580
Your post is meaningless. Use specifics.
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>>8583
They only buy among their own kin. They only give good deals to their own kin though they are miserly bastards even among family They use connections to the mainland to get better prices. They employ family in their businesses and avoid taxes as much as possible.

Isn't it obvious?
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>>8584
>They only buy among their own kin.
>They only give good deals to their own kin though they are miserly bastards even among family
Hard to do when the general White population doesn't have a racial consciousness, but a good start would be offering discounts to "good customers" as mentioned above. Said good customers would be Whites who are friendly to our cause, even if they don't say it explicitly or even know about the more militant wing of our Organization. Speaking of which, Organization members should also be given this discount, even if the money effectively doesn't leave the Organization it'll set an example given that it happens in a public setting. Admittedly this would require the business be owned by an organization member and that all the employees are at the very least friendly to the cause, but I'm sure with some networking and elbow grease it could be done.


>They use connections to the mainland to get better prices.
This one's tricky because we don't have a "mainland" to get support from, given that we're natives. We also don't have the equivalent of shabbos goyim. In short, we only have ourselves to rely on. Aside from the connections each man is able to gain, I think the "mainland" in this equation should be the Organization itself. Because we lack the enemy's vast resources, this also means the Organization will have to resort to criminal means to support our business ventures, given their importance as our main source of logistical support. I'll elaborate on that in a separate post.

>They employ family in their businesses
That's easier. Ideally we should employ Organization members so that everyone is on the level, but family and cause-friendly Whites are good too.

>and avoid taxes as much as possible.
Now this is where it gets truly difficult. Since the enemy hates us in particular we're under especially harsh scrutiny so getting away with tax evasion is much harder for us than for the average chink. I've got no real ideas on this one, we'd need someone deeply familiar with tax laws, and that's a unicorn if I've ever seen one.
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Sometimes you just forget about things that happened. Here's a reminder of what happened a few years ago at Apple.
>SAN FRANCISCO – A federal grand jury indicted former Apple Incorporated (Apple) employee Weibao Wang, charging him with theft and attempted theft of trade secrets in connection with a scheme to access, download, and steal Apple technology related to autonomous systems, announced United States Attorney Ismail J. Ramsey and FBI Special Agent in Charge Robert K. Tripp.
>According to the indictment, Apple hired Wang, 35, formerly of Mountain View, Calif., to work as a software engineer beginning in March of 2016.  The indictment describes how Wang signed a confidentiality agreement with Apple.  The indictment further states that Apple provided Wang with in-person secrecy training that covered the appropriate handling of confidential material, and established rules prohibiting the transfer and transmission of the company’s intellectual property without Apple’s consent.  Wang was assigned to work with a team at Apple that designed and developed hardware and software for autonomous systems, which can have a variety of applications, such as self-driving cars.
>After Wang’s last day at Apple on April 16, 2018, Apple representatives reviewed access logs documenting historical activity on Apple’s network. Apple identified Wang as having accessed large amounts of sensitive proprietary and confidential information in the days leading up to his departure from Apple.
>The indictment describes the June 27, 2018, search by law enforcement of Wang’s Mountain View residence and the discovery of large quantities of data taken from Apple prior to his departure.  Wang was present during the search and told agents he had no plans to travel.  Nevertheless, Wang purchased a one-way plane ticket from San Francisco International Airport to Guangzhou, China, and boarded a flight that night.  Through subsequent investigation, law enforcement determined that Wang accessed Apple’s proprietary and confidential information after leaving Apple, during the period in which he was employed by the subsidiary of COMPANY ONE.
An extradition? LOL.
We shall not cry for Apple, but this acts as a good reminder of what happens when one lets China in when it's a country that doesn't respect the most basic business principles known in the Western world. They won't even get a slap on the hand because they produce all the consumer goods and that would hurt the trade of giant corporations that pulled their pants down to get a slice of the Chinese market. All perhaps a part of a JudeoMasonic plan to bring China to our level before pulling the trigger and make sure that a war with China would be destructive enough instead of the country getting steamrolled in any case of a war aimed at damaging Asia and Europe as much as possible. 
Nothing happened after that as far as I can tell. Chinks weren't even mass-banned from Apple. It would be racist.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/former-apple-employee-charged-theft-trade-secrets
https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/17/23726769/apple-baidu-self-driving-trade-secrets-stolen
>After leaving Apple, Wang co-founded Singularity.AI and became the VP of technology, focused on development of artificial intelligence for the medical industry. In March 2020, he became the chief technology officer of Neolithic, a Chinese startup developing unmanned delivery vehicles.
In August 2021, Wang joined Jidu Auto Company, a subsidiary of Chinese technology conglomerate Baidu that is developing self-driving automobiles co-funded by Geely. There, he became the head of autonomous driving. Wang stated that the ultimate competitor in the field would be Apple. 
https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/Weibao_Wang
This is perhaps the third time something like that happened in recent years. The same may happen with the massive recruitment of Indians.
What can we expect in the near future if Trump keeps pressuring China with tariffs?
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