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Suppose I connected XP to the internet of 2025. What's the worst that could happen?

Have zero-click zero-days gotten bad nowadays or is it just fearmongering?

Seems to me computer security is an art which people love pretending is an exact science. Tell me the truth.
security is just a buzzword for cumskins, they dont care that u can just get hacked at any moment and have ur pc taken over, its not in their list of scnearios which are limited to just
>acc hackedd - > use 2fa (phone hacked too, oh well) (bonus pts cus u dont even need to hack phone to get someones 2fa codes)
>computer hacked -> its da j0000z nothing i can do about it security is hard now im gonna makje a blog sayin security is haaaard
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>>242968 (OP) 
It would be unusable because no software being commonly used in any meaningful sense is compatible with XP.
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>>242994
You likely wouldnt be able to run it because of hardware limitations as well for CPUs and GPUs. 

XP belongs to a world that no longer exists.
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>>242996
Don't they still make Atomic Pi single board computer chips? Atom netbooks were XP era. Driver issues aside it should work, yes? And there's no reason a browser can't be used that's outdated if the website is also outdated. IRC would still work, older bitorrenting clients might work, older emulators for retro gaming, etc. Web 2.0 not working is like a reminder that you're on a bad site anyway. 

not OP by the way.
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>>243080
>Web 2.0 not working is like a reminder that you're on a bad site anyway.
Damn right!

Surprisingly a lot of good software (latest versions) still run fine on XP: Total Commander, IrfanView, 7-Zip to name a few.

>And there's no reason a browser can't be used that's outdated if the website is also outdated.
Firefox ESR 52.9.0 was the last release for XP. I wonder how vulnerable it is though.
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>>243086
Who is going to attack you and how? Don't use social media, don't buy shit online. The original Internet not everyone bought shit online nor used social media anyway. Even if someone is going to hax.exe you a zoomer ran Internet won't remember how to anyway something tells me. Eventually very outdated software will be harder to harm than the newer shit, like a horseshoe crabs blue blood being immune to viruses on account of being too old to be attacked. 

The real question is: if the source code was leaked how come ReactOS does not use that shit and become the best OS?
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>>243088
>if the source code was leaked how come ReactOS does not use that shit and become the best OS?
That would be illegal to do, on par with piracy.
It would have to be a clandestine fork maintained by Russians, and the feds could shut it down.
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>>243097
>stopping piracy 
Of which is why the pirate bay died and downloading roms from archive.org stopped! 

That aside: You cannot actually prove that they didn't reverse engineer it while actually using the real software. They could just be 'that good', rhetorically. 

If the feds had the power to shut shit down Kali would not be allowed exist nor would Backtrack have been allowed to exist nor LInux in general nor BSD. They'd have banned it as 'pedophile hacker software" already like they did Limewire. I already remember stats on how Linux users were more likely to be pedos, I had a screencap even. It was old banter. What are you hiding being the question if a VPN using HDD/SDD encrytpion having Linux user?  They never even banned Zeronet nor the other Darknets because if anything the feds want to use such odd duck software to catch 'predators'. They'd let ReactOS be a thing as it'd be easily hacked in comparison to Linux and most people would be jailed over copyright infinring as obviously that is their forte if they copyright infringed the very operating  system they are using. Using ReactOS means you're a 'thief', they want to catch them in stings like they do anybody, such as by using the darknets you are a pedo but they let that, indeed, stay up for the sake of stings. 

Russians censors too and the Soviet Union fell a long time ago. They will act just like the USA if they ever get money. It'd just be a matter of time. I won't bat an eye when they take down the library genesis, of which will happen as soon as people start trading with them aka giving them money. Eventually they will cut a deal to stop them from allowing people to copyright infringe if it hit critical mass, of which it eventually will, and they'd not have censored porhub from their own people if they were not censorous spiritually as an example of censor.
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Don't listen to kikes and CIA niggers trying to scare you into using pozzed bloatware, it's perfectly fine.
BTW, post screenshot of this site http://2ip.ru/
I had high hopes for ReactOS but its development is way too slow. By the time it fully clones XP we will have Windows '98 from year 2098. And maybe a colony on Mars.
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>>243107
>you will never play pinball while mining helium 3 on the moon with your fellow indigent pirates that are 'too good' to move to ((( Mars )))
Currently running Windows Vista on an old PC I garbage picked.

Using Mypal (Firefox based) and Superium (Chrome based) for browsing. Only started using Superium because Cloudflare is fucking with Mypal and it cripples and hangs half my browser for like 10-15 mins when I get a verification checkpoint, and sadly alot of imageboards and other websites use that crap now.

https://www.techradar.com/pro/cloudflare-admits-security-tool-is-blocking-some-challenger-browsers
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>>243130
>>243100
>pirate bay died
Dude, The Bay is alive and well.
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>>243132
I forgot that I was on reddit. Next time rather than use an exclamation point to imply sarcasm  I'll add  /s
>>243130
Good on you. Old hardware works best with old software in my experience.
Win Vista is an OS I skipped entirely but I remember it had pretty colors.

Some might suggest to you a Linux "for old computers" like antiX but I won't: been there, done that, came back to Windows. Whenever I need bash there are MSYS2 and busybox-w32.
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>>243140
>done that, came back to Windows. 
I messed around with Mint in 2013, and I got fed up with it eventually. I just want things to work and be easy to install, and despite how much shit Windows gets, its just easier to deal with and what I'm used to.

Not ever using it past Windows 10 though. Fuck 11.
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>>245831
Linux is designed by engineers, who design tools for fellow engineers. This tends to be the issue with most libre, FOSS, opensource, or whatever buzzword software, Apple and Microsoft despite all their faults put significant research into UX and GUI. No I am not going to learn the terminal commands or learn those shitty application dependencies, I would rather give away my personal data and hard earned cash to the cohens and shekelsteins than to endure a single second of the linux experience.
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>>245832
>Linux is designed by engineers, who design tools for fellow engineers.
It's designed by retards for retards. It's a bloated monstrosity emulating the limitations of an OS from the 60s. It has so much technical debt that it will never advance.
>Apple and Microsoft despite all their faults put significant research into UX and GUI
They're responsible for some of the most awful and frustrating UI design that exists. Installing Openshell is the first step when using any Windows PC since Windows 10. They use a mobile design and integrate ads into the start menu. Apple is designed without a middle mouse button in mind. Windows move instead of fading which causes motion sickness and makes it difficult to look at the screen. There's "notifications" which are completely worthless and can't be disabled. Both companies have no technological capability, they outsource everything to street shitters. These companies have no innovation and no products besides buying up competition with other people's money because of the lack of enforcement of anti trust laws. Linux with Emacs and a tiling window manager is still the best experience you can get out of modern computers.
>>242968 (OP) 
its fine, I work at a Printer repair center and we have an old XP machine still running for ancient software needed for customers who come in with their 15 year old printers.
>DURRRR LINUCKS IS SO HARRRDDD
>IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO JUST CLICK AN "INSTALL" BUTTON
You guys are slaves to Micro$haft and crapple
>>247877
keep in mind that most people are servants. there is no point in trying to change them as that is the role they were born into
>>247877
People don't want to own up that they're retarded  and most of the time that their system fails is their fault rather than a issue with them. not to mention people install meme distros on first time like arch where they doom themselves.
They unironically  rather reinstall  their entire OS simply because something out of their control breaks.
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Nothing, and that's the worst thing because it's not compatible with modern internet
>>247877
Tell that to the retards troubleshooting in every /v/ gamenight thread.
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>had to reset pc last week thanks to a bad update
>reset seems to go fine
>but windows store and xbox app are gone
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>>247925
I've had windows blow up on me just because I tried to reformat a SD card to fat32 I wish what I typed was just a joke. But it's not.
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>>247925
>windows store and xbox app are gone
Based update.
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>>247927
easier on linux
mkfs.fat -F 32 /dev/sdb1
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>>247930
Yep, I'm switching when I get all the parts needed I used Linux before but for only small amounts of time since it was before proton was a thing. Basically nothing is holding me back now I don't even play multiplayer with anti cheat.
Windows 12 is going to be an AI hub and I don't want anything to do with it.
>>242969
You're a very embarrassing creature and I'm thankful I'll never be around your kind.
>>242968 (OP) 
Install MyPal browser (a Firefox fork), because it's the only browser that still supports Windows Xp. You'll also want a firewall to block most insane shit, but odds are your router is already doing much of that for you just by not forwarding ports. You don't really need updated firewall software, so you should be able to find something if you want. I think Avast AntiVirus has a legacy Windows Xp client that still takes updated antivirus definitions.

You can also install shit like 7-zip and OpenOffice (not the LibreOffice fork - that one doesn't support Xp). So it's still a functioning rig. Gaming will be mostly retro gaming, but iirc you can install "DirectX 10 For XP by KM-Software" to try to get it running or even "One Core API" - https://github.com/shorthorn-project/One-Core-API-Binaries - which should support up to Dx11 and raise the amount of software you can install. Honestly, there's a shitload of backporting to get Windows Xp to stay operational, much of it on forums.mydigitallife.net.

Still, this feels more like a >>>/tech/ thread.
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>>242994
What about a virtual machine toaster with XP running on it?
>>249876
What if XP in question is x86_32?
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>>250095
MyPal, OpenOffice, and 7-zip all have 32-bit binaries, but you're probably going to suffer from the 4GB RAM limitation unless you activate the /pae (Physical Address Expansion) switch on your boot.ini (which will let 32-bit Xp support more than 4GB of RAM, assuming your CPU supports PAE) and make sure your 32-bit software is LAA (Large Address Aware) flagged - you can use https://ntcore.com/4gb-patch/ to make manually flag binaries (exe files) Large Address Aware so it can use 4GB RAM instead of being capped at 2 (make sure MyPal and OpenOffice have the LAA flag active). There is a slight risk that software isn't written to handle more than 2GB of memory (pointer arithmetic with lazy signed integers because of shit coders causes havoc because numbers over 2GB get interpreted as negative numbers instead) in which case it'll crash at some point and you'll want to undo the patch, but that's rare these days. Most software, even by shit coders, can be flagged LAA safely if it isn't already. It makes a huge difference.

Basically, it still works, but obviously you're going to be able to run less shit. Can't run 64-bit software on 32-bit Xp, after all. But there's plenty of open source shit that's got 32-bit binaries.

But, on the upshot of things, you can now run old-school 16-bit Windows software (which uses 20-bit addressing space, because otherwise it'd only access 1MB of RAM) and commands on 32-bit Xp that are gone or unusable with 64-bit Xp (because while 64-bit Xp is 32-bit compatible, it isn't 16-bit compatible, unlike 32-bit Xp). Then again people use DOSBox these days for their 16 to 20 bit needs. The real fancy part is just being able to use 16-bit era Windows software in case you want to fuck with WINFILE.EXE and PROGMAN.EXE (These program, largely holdovers from Windows 3.11 era, are still available in 32-bit Xp) and other shit. You can also use glorious DOS commands like EDLIN and DEBUG (which is very useful and easy if you're interested in teaching yourself assembly programming for DOS - just look up Ralf Brown's Interrupt List). I still have batch scripts that would pipe input into those programs to achieve some voodoo you don't expect MS-DOS batch scripts' limited as fuck syntax to pull. I think the craziest batch script I'd seen that uses that crap was Laura Fairhead making a DOS 5.0 era chess game as a batch script.

Laura's website: https://web.archive.org/web/20110707070232/http://lf.8k.com/
The chess BAT: https://web.archive.org/web/20110721192043/http://lf.8k.com/BAT/CHESS.HTM

If you want to fuck with MS-DOS ASM (which unlike later Windows OSs is actually fairly intuitive for ASM programming), here is the RBIL: http://www.ctyme.com/rbrown.htm

You will still need to find your own guide to 16 bit ASM commands, but it's pretty easy to do 16-bit ASM. Go nuts. Learning how to write basic software in MS-DOS ASM does a world of good for making your ability to understand pointers, buffer overflows, and type-casting in programming feel easy and intuitive once you understand what is happening under the hood. Learning 16-bit ASM spoiled me.

Nowadays MS has basically replaced the Command Prompt (which it still supports for legacy reasons) with the PowerShell because they knew Command Prompt had degenerated into shit and in the MS bureaucracy it was easier to get a cool new feature approved than maintain an old one.

Anyway, 32-bit Xp loses out on 64-bit software, but for retro purposes it can be even more fun if you want to fuck with 16-bit Windows software.

One thing that may fuck with you though is lack of driver support for Windows Xp. Some hardware is just unsupported.
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>>250546
That's a lot of fuckery instead of just installing Windows XP 64
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>>250550
32-bit works the same. The only real fuckery is to try to get more out of your memory, which is just activating the /pae switch on your boot config and running the 4GB/LAA patch on software. And that shit's optional. It's just recommended in case you want more memory to work.

The rest of the fuckery is embracing retro 16-bit era Windows shit which does not run on 64-bit Xp but does run on 32-bit Xp. So just to be perfectly clear, installing Windows Xp 64 is the wrong call if you want to do any of that.
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>>250552
Why do any of that when you can just install wine and use dosbox with n old spin of KDE like trinity or lxde with a win xp theme? Gentoo for x86_32 and hardware drivers being made to work? EDLIN on the command prompt is the only reasoning I see in your post. If strict win xp hardware driver requirements is your reason then ReactOS is already there.

Mind you modern linux kernels are bloated piles of shit and compiling mypal for x86_32 linux would be a PITA even on newer hardware.
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>not them but bored:

>>247877
>>247880
>use dated debian varient 
>go to update Linux
>kernel panic
>have to spend entire day reinstalling software and changing it to how I like and repasting files 
>cannot even use exfat in first install
>.deb files don't always work
>sometimes have to follow a 15 step terminal guide to fix something that would 'just werk' on android or windows 
Shit's annoying. I hate having to be connected to the Internet and setting up local suppository looks really like a pain in the ass. Yes I know I could use real debian but  the ui looks gay and I don't wanna install a new ui.  
>>247902
Indeed any time you need something not super common it shits the bed and you then are forced into being tech savvy enough to be a developer rather than just a user. They did this on purpose to trick autistic children into programming computers for free. 
>>247927
No it didn't. Your drive is about to die if it did. Ever check your drive's health?  
>>247929
lol 
>>250702
Why not just have several computers and see which one ends up being your favorite?  Or dual boot? Wine is emulation isn't it and that bogs down the computer, no? 
>>250552
Winxp 32bit can do 16 bit? I thought win98 was the strange hybrid.... weird...though everyone knows 64 can do 32bit apps so perhaps I shoulda known....

t. unix/linux/android user
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>>250741
>No it didn't. Your drive is about to die if it did. Ever check your drive's health?  
Simply reinstalling windows fixed it.
To you linux fudders:
KDE is great, KDE is great. And piss easy to use.
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>>250755
Yep. it's pretty gud and if you don't have a very specific way you want your system to look like you can pretty much just get away with the customization KDE gives you without installing anything else.
>>250702
Listen man, reinstalling Windows Xp is clearly a shits-and-giggles endeavor (to some it may also be a version of "let's run the last good Windows OS"). I'm just pointing out that it's feasible and what you can do.

>>250741
>Winxp 32bit can do 16 bit? I thought win98 was the strange hybrid.... weird...though everyone knows 64 can do 32bit apps so perhaps I shoulda known....
Win95/85/Me doubled as fully fledged MS-DOS machines, albeit ones where you needed a Turbo button or some other CPU limiter to get some MS-DOS era shit running right. The WinNT family was a lot more half-assed about DOS compatibility since it wasn't really true DOS anymore, but still supported 16-bit and had a bunch of legacy shit from the 16-bit era, until the transition to 64-bit.
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