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Suppose I connected XP to the internet of 2025. What's the worst that could happen?

Have zero-click zero-days gotten bad nowadays or is it just fearmongering?

Seems to me computer security is an art which people love pretending is an exact science. Tell me the truth.
security is just a buzzword for cumskins, they dont care that u can just get hacked at any moment and have ur pc taken over, its not in their list of scnearios which are limited to just
>acc hackedd - > use 2fa (phone hacked too, oh well) (bonus pts cus u dont even need to hack phone to get someones 2fa codes)
>computer hacked -> its da j0000z nothing i can do about it security is hard now im gonna makje a blog sayin security is haaaard
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>>242968 (OP) 
It would be unusable because no software being commonly used in any meaningful sense is compatible with XP.
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>>242994
You likely wouldnt be able to run it because of hardware limitations as well for CPUs and GPUs. 

XP belongs to a world that no longer exists.
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>>242996
Don't they still make Atomic Pi single board computer chips? Atom netbooks were XP era. Driver issues aside it should work, yes? And there's no reason a browser can't be used that's outdated if the website is also outdated. IRC would still work, older bitorrenting clients might work, older emulators for retro gaming, etc. Web 2.0 not working is like a reminder that you're on a bad site anyway. 

not OP by the way.
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>>243080
>Web 2.0 not working is like a reminder that you're on a bad site anyway.
Damn right!

Surprisingly a lot of good software (latest versions) still run fine on XP: Total Commander, IrfanView, 7-Zip to name a few.

>And there's no reason a browser can't be used that's outdated if the website is also outdated.
Firefox ESR 52.9.0 was the last release for XP. I wonder how vulnerable it is though.
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>>243086
Who is going to attack you and how? Don't use social media, don't buy shit online. The original Internet not everyone bought shit online nor used social media anyway. Even if someone is going to hax.exe you a zoomer ran Internet won't remember how to anyway something tells me. Eventually very outdated software will be harder to harm than the newer shit, like a horseshoe crabs blue blood being immune to viruses on account of being too old to be attacked. 

The real question is: if the source code was leaked how come ReactOS does not use that shit and become the best OS?
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>>243088
>if the source code was leaked how come ReactOS does not use that shit and become the best OS?
That would be illegal to do, on par with piracy.
It would have to be a clandestine fork maintained by Russians, and the feds could shut it down.
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>>243097
>stopping piracy 
Of which is why the pirate bay died and downloading roms from archive.org stopped! 

That aside: You cannot actually prove that they didn't reverse engineer it while actually using the real software. They could just be 'that good', rhetorically. 

If the feds had the power to shut shit down Kali would not be allowed exist nor would Backtrack have been allowed to exist nor LInux in general nor BSD. They'd have banned it as 'pedophile hacker software" already like they did Limewire. I already remember stats on how Linux users were more likely to be pedos, I had a screencap even. It was old banter. What are you hiding being the question if a VPN using HDD/SDD encrytpion having Linux user?  They never even banned Zeronet nor the other Darknets because if anything the feds want to use such odd duck software to catch 'predators'. They'd let ReactOS be a thing as it'd be easily hacked in comparison to Linux and most people would be jailed over copyright infinring as obviously that is their forte if they copyright infringed the very operating  system they are using. Using ReactOS means you're a 'thief', they want to catch them in stings like they do anybody, such as by using the darknets you are a pedo but they let that, indeed, stay up for the sake of stings. 

Russians censors too and the Soviet Union fell a long time ago. They will act just like the USA if they ever get money. It'd just be a matter of time. I won't bat an eye when they take down the library genesis, of which will happen as soon as people start trading with them aka giving them money. Eventually they will cut a deal to stop them from allowing people to copyright infringe if it hit critical mass, of which it eventually will, and they'd not have censored porhub from their own people if they were not censorous spiritually as an example of censor.
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Don't listen to kikes and CIA niggers trying to scare you into using pozzed bloatware, it's perfectly fine.
BTW, post screenshot of this site http://2ip.ru/
I had high hopes for ReactOS but its development is way too slow. By the time it fully clones XP we will have Windows '98 from year 2098. And maybe a colony on Mars.
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>>243107
>you will never play pinball while mining helium 3 on the moon with your fellow indigent pirates that are 'too good' to move to ((( Mars )))
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Currently running Windows Vista on an old PC I garbage picked.

Using Mypal (Firefox based) and Superium (Chrome based) for browsing. Only started using Superium because Cloudflare is fucking with Mypal and it cripples and hangs half my browser for like 10-15 mins when I get a verification checkpoint, and sadly alot of imageboards and other websites use that crap now.

https://www.techradar.com/pro/cloudflare-admits-security-tool-is-blocking-some-challenger-browsers
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>>243130
>>243100
>pirate bay died
Dude, The Bay is alive and well.
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>>243132
I forgot that I was on reddit. Next time rather than use an exclamation point to imply sarcasm  I'll add  /s
>>243130
Good on you. Old hardware works best with old software in my experience.
Win Vista is an OS I skipped entirely but I remember it had pretty colors.

Some might suggest to you a Linux "for old computers" like antiX but I won't: been there, done that, came back to Windows. Whenever I need bash there are MSYS2 and busybox-w32.
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>>243140
>done that, came back to Windows. 
I messed around with Mint in 2013, and I got fed up with it eventually. I just want things to work and be easy to install, and despite how much shit Windows gets, its just easier to deal with and what I'm used to.

Not ever using it past Windows 10 though. Fuck 11.
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>>245831
Linux is designed by engineers, who design tools for fellow engineers. This tends to be the issue with most libre, FOSS, opensource, or whatever buzzword software, Apple and Microsoft despite all their faults put significant research into UX and GUI. No I am not going to learn the terminal commands or learn those shitty application dependencies, I would rather give away my personal data and hard earned cash to the cohens and shekelsteins than to endure a single second of the linux experience.
>>245832
>Linux is designed by engineers, who design tools for fellow engineers.
It's designed by retards for retards. It's a bloated monstrosity emulating the limitations of an OS from the 60s. It has so much technical debt that it will never advance.
>Apple and Microsoft despite all their faults put significant research into UX and GUI
They're responsible for some of the most awful and frustrating UI design that exists. Installing Openshell is the first step when using any Windows PC since Windows 10. They use a mobile design and integrate ads into the start menu. Apple is designed without a middle mouse button in mind. Windows move instead of fading which causes motion sickness and makes it difficult to look at the screen. There's "notifications" which are completely worthless and can't be disabled. Both companies have no technological capability, they outsource everything to street shitters. These companies have no innovation and no products besides buying up competition with other people's money because of the lack of enforcement of anti trust laws. Linux with Emacs and a tiling window manager is still the best experience you can get out of modern computers.
>>242968 (OP) 
its fine, I work at a Printer repair center and we have an old XP machine still running for ancient software needed for customers who come in with their 15 year old printers.
>DURRRR LINUCKS IS SO HARRRDDD
>IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO JUST CLICK AN "INSTALL" BUTTON
You guys are slaves to Micro$haft and crapple
>>247877
keep in mind that most people are servants. there is no point in trying to change them as that is the role they were born into
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>>247877
People don't want to own up that they're retarded  and most of the time that their system fails is their fault rather than a issue with them. not to mention people install meme distros on first time like arch where they doom themselves.
They unironically  rather reinstall  their entire OS simply because something out of their control breaks.
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Nothing, and that's the worst thing because it's not compatible with modern internet
>>247877
Tell that to the retards troubleshooting in every /v/ gamenight thread.
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>had to reset pc last week thanks to a bad update
>reset seems to go fine
>but windows store and xbox app are gone
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>>247925
I've had windows blow up on me just because I tried to reformat a SD card to fat32 I wish what I typed was just a joke. But it's not.
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>>247925
>windows store and xbox app are gone
Based update.
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>>247927
easier on linux
mkfs.fat -F 32 /dev/sdb1
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>>247930
Yep, I'm switching when I get all the parts needed I used Linux before but for only small amounts of time since it was before proton was a thing. Basically nothing is holding me back now I don't even play multiplayer with anti cheat.
Windows 12 is going to be an AI hub and I don't want anything to do with it.
>>242969
You're a very embarrassing creature and I'm thankful I'll never be around your kind.
>>242968 (OP) 
Install MyPal browser (a Firefox fork), because it's the only browser that still supports Windows Xp. You'll also want a firewall to block most insane shit, but odds are your router is already doing much of that for you just by not forwarding ports. You don't really need updated firewall software, so you should be able to find something if you want. I think Avast AntiVirus has a legacy Windows Xp client that still takes updated antivirus definitions.

You can also install shit like 7-zip and OpenOffice (not the LibreOffice fork - that one doesn't support Xp). So it's still a functioning rig. Gaming will be mostly retro gaming, but iirc you can install "DirectX 10 For XP by KM-Software" to try to get it running or even "One Core API" - https://github.com/shorthorn-project/One-Core-API-Binaries - which should support up to Dx11 and raise the amount of software you can install. Honestly, there's a shitload of backporting to get Windows Xp to stay operational, much of it on forums.mydigitallife.net.

Still, this feels more like a >>>/tech/ thread.
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>>242994
What about a virtual machine toaster with XP running on it?
>>249876
What if XP in question is x86_32?
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>>250095
MyPal, OpenOffice, and 7-zip all have 32-bit binaries, but you're probably going to suffer from the 4GB RAM limitation unless you activate the /pae (Physical Address Expansion) switch on your boot.ini (which will let 32-bit Xp support more than 4GB of RAM, assuming your CPU supports PAE) and make sure your 32-bit software is LAA (Large Address Aware) flagged - you can use https://ntcore.com/4gb-patch/ to make manually flag binaries (exe files) Large Address Aware so it can use 4GB RAM instead of being capped at 2 (make sure MyPal and OpenOffice have the LAA flag active). There is a slight risk that software isn't written to handle more than 2GB of memory (pointer arithmetic with lazy signed integers because of shit coders causes havoc because numbers over 2GB get interpreted as negative numbers instead) in which case it'll crash at some point and you'll want to undo the patch, but that's rare these days. Most software, even by shit coders, can be flagged LAA safely if it isn't already. It makes a huge difference.

Basically, it still works, but obviously you're going to be able to run less shit. Can't run 64-bit software on 32-bit Xp, after all. But there's plenty of open source shit that's got 32-bit binaries.

But, on the upshot of things, you can now run old-school 16-bit Windows software (which uses 20-bit addressing space, because otherwise it'd only access 1MB of RAM) and commands on 32-bit Xp that are gone or unusable with 64-bit Xp (because while 64-bit Xp is 32-bit compatible, it isn't 16-bit compatible, unlike 32-bit Xp). Then again people use DOSBox these days for their 16 to 20 bit needs. The real fancy part is just being able to use 16-bit era Windows software in case you want to fuck with WINFILE.EXE and PROGMAN.EXE (These program, largely holdovers from Windows 3.11 era, are still available in 32-bit Xp) and other shit. You can also use glorious DOS commands like EDLIN and DEBUG (which is very useful and easy if you're interested in teaching yourself assembly programming for DOS - just look up Ralf Brown's Interrupt List). I still have batch scripts that would pipe input into those programs to achieve some voodoo you don't expect MS-DOS batch scripts' limited as fuck syntax to pull. I think the craziest batch script I'd seen that uses that crap was Laura Fairhead making a DOS 5.0 era chess game as a batch script.

Laura's website: https://web.archive.org/web/20110707070232/http://lf.8k.com/
The chess BAT: https://web.archive.org/web/20110721192043/http://lf.8k.com/BAT/CHESS.HTM

If you want to fuck with MS-DOS ASM (which unlike later Windows OSs is actually fairly intuitive for ASM programming), here is the RBIL: http://www.ctyme.com/rbrown.htm

You will still need to find your own guide to 16 bit ASM commands, but it's pretty easy to do 16-bit ASM. Go nuts. Learning how to write basic software in MS-DOS ASM does a world of good for making your ability to understand pointers, buffer overflows, and type-casting in programming feel easy and intuitive once you understand what is happening under the hood. Learning 16-bit ASM spoiled me.

Nowadays MS has basically replaced the Command Prompt (which it still supports for legacy reasons) with the PowerShell because they knew Command Prompt had degenerated into shit and in the MS bureaucracy it was easier to get a cool new feature approved than maintain an old one.

Anyway, 32-bit Xp loses out on 64-bit software, but for retro purposes it can be even more fun if you want to fuck with 16-bit Windows software.

One thing that may fuck with you though is lack of driver support for Windows Xp. Some hardware is just unsupported.
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>>250546
That's a lot of fuckery instead of just installing Windows XP 64
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>>250550
32-bit works the same. The only real fuckery is to try to get more out of your memory, which is just activating the /pae switch on your boot config and running the 4GB/LAA patch on software. And that shit's optional. It's just recommended in case you want more memory to work.

The rest of the fuckery is embracing retro 16-bit era Windows shit which does not run on 64-bit Xp but does run on 32-bit Xp. So just to be perfectly clear, installing Windows Xp 64 is the wrong call if you want to do any of that.
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>>250552
Why do any of that when you can just install wine and use dosbox with n old spin of KDE like trinity or lxde with a win xp theme? Gentoo for x86_32 and hardware drivers being made to work? EDLIN on the command prompt is the only reasoning I see in your post. If strict win xp hardware driver requirements is your reason then ReactOS is already there.

Mind you modern linux kernels are bloated piles of shit and compiling mypal for x86_32 linux would be a PITA even on newer hardware.
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>not them but bored:

>>247877
>>247880
>use dated debian varient 
>go to update Linux
>kernel panic
>have to spend entire day reinstalling software and changing it to how I like and repasting files 
>cannot even use exfat in first install
>.deb files don't always work
>sometimes have to follow a 15 step terminal guide to fix something that would 'just werk' on android or windows 
Shit's annoying. I hate having to be connected to the Internet and setting up local suppository looks really like a pain in the ass. Yes I know I could use real debian but  the ui looks gay and I don't wanna install a new ui.  
>>247902
Indeed any time you need something not super common it shits the bed and you then are forced into being tech savvy enough to be a developer rather than just a user. They did this on purpose to trick autistic children into programming computers for free. 
>>247927
No it didn't. Your drive is about to die if it did. Ever check your drive's health?  
>>247929
lol 
>>250702
Why not just have several computers and see which one ends up being your favorite?  Or dual boot? Wine is emulation isn't it and that bogs down the computer, no? 
>>250552
Winxp 32bit can do 16 bit? I thought win98 was the strange hybrid.... weird...though everyone knows 64 can do 32bit apps so perhaps I shoulda known....

t. unix/linux/android user
>>250741
>No it didn't. Your drive is about to die if it did. Ever check your drive's health?  
Simply reinstalling windows fixed it.
To you linux fudders:
KDE is great, KDE is great. And piss easy to use.
>>250755
Yep. it's pretty gud and if you don't have a very specific way you want your system to look like you can pretty much just get away with the customization KDE gives you without installing anything else.
>>250702
Listen man, reinstalling Windows Xp is clearly a shits-and-giggles endeavor (to some it may also be a version of "let's run the last good Windows OS"). I'm just pointing out that it's feasible and what you can do.

>>250741
>Winxp 32bit can do 16 bit? I thought win98 was the strange hybrid.... weird...though everyone knows 64 can do 32bit apps so perhaps I shoulda known....
Win95/85/Me doubled as fully fledged MS-DOS machines, albeit ones where you needed a Turbo button or some other CPU limiter to get some MS-DOS era shit running right. The WinNT family was a lot more half-assed about DOS compatibility since it wasn't really true DOS anymore, but still supported 16-bit and had a bunch of legacy shit from the 16-bit era, until the transition to 64-bit.
>>250755
Fuck KDE and its godawful bloat. It's almost Windows-tier with its own Internet Explorer in the form of Konqueror, which is - like Windows - both a browser and the file manager for some fucking insane reason. Yay, it's the 2020s, we should stick browsers in fucking everything now and Linux should aspire to import Windows cancer (courtesy of redhat being a bunch of fags). Seriously, install Blackbox. It's so much better.

Also, to bring this thread back on topic, some madlad created Blackbox4windows (bb4win is the normal name) to make your Windows computer run like blackbox. I actually used this back in the day when I was on Windows Xp: https://bb4win.sourceforge.net/
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Hi OP. What happens when you run Windows XP and connect it to the internet? First of all everything will be very slow, because most machines that can run it are now either some nugget like eee PC or older than you. The only browser usable browser is Palemoon and the entire internet won't look right if the latest usable version was released when Mammoths roamed Northern Europe. Time to pack up and continue from my current computer.
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Your fucking machine gonna whine about updates that aren't provided anymore. Won't trust any connection and as long you don't download all kinds of nonsense from dodgy websites like gamecopyworld, you won't get many virus. I am not even sure if that System is so widely used nowadays that cyber crime gangs care about your nostalgic system. I am also fucking retard and didn't know that you don't have to use something written by a Swedish furfag to surf the internet, becaus Mypal and Superium exist. If you consider using an eee PC, consider giving it a wipe with some window cleaner as their plastic shells want to turn into oil again. The chinks somehow fucked the recipe for long chained polymers and now every single tech nugget from Shenzhen acts perfectly imitates the behavior of ork teef.
>>242968 (OP) 
test
>>253449
As >>249876 already said, you can get an up-to-date Firefox fork to run on Windows Xp if you install MyPal browser: https://www.mypal-browser.org

As for everything being very slow, a lot of that is really down to whether or not your RAM is shit. The CPU really isn't that much of a bottleneck for basic shit as you are probably using a computer that was shit for Xp even at the time it came out (cheap and terrible computers did exist) and Windows Xp supports some very well performing CPUs. Browsers are fuckhuge nowadays but they should still work fine with 4GB of RAM on Windows Xp 32-bit, especially if you set up a decent pagefile (that's the Windows equivalent of a swap partition), though you won't want to have too many programs open at the same time (like OpenOffice) or use /pae to try to get more than 4GB working on Xp. If you're using 64-bit Xp having decent RAM work out of the box is not an issue, especially since old RAM (DDR2, DDR3) is dirt cheap nowadays.

tl;dr: A Windows Xp computer is still plenty fast for your needs, especially 64-bit.
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>>243107
Want to start a ReactOS thread in >>>/tech/?

>>243108
Someone made a browser version of it. It's pretty faithful, although the physics feel slightly off.

https://alula.github.io/SpaceCadetPinball/
>>253767
Is it possible for MyPal to run on a CPU that does NOT support SSE2 instructions?
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>What's the worst that could happen?
rce
>>250755
kde has rce, too
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>>255590
So does your mother's computer but it lets me do anything I want with it even going through the backdoor.
>>247878
There's a number of ezmode linux distros out there, before that dosbox is a good way to get acquainted with CLI.
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>>255603
you can learn cli just by playing games but apparently no one has ever played a game before the year 2006 nor have they cheated in a pc game.
all they done is play console shit
>>255603
Dosbox is how I learned basic linux commands since they were literally the same
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Crap my happens
>>255227
Yes, but it has to be custom compiled for that. Someone already took the liberty of making redistributable binaries for it so download from here instead of the mypal website: https://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/

To give you a rundown on the 32-bit variants:
Win32: Needs SSE2
Win32 SSE: Needs SSE but not SSE2
Win32 IA32: No SSE needed (meaning you have a CPU that came out before the Pentium 3)

>>255715
As someone who has used both DOS and Linux extensively and has never outgrown the command-line interface, no they are not "literally the same." They are similar for basic tasks, yes, but many of the commands are not identical, although sometimes there are aliases so that if you type "dir" in linux it will just give you the output of "ls." Still, if you can use one you can pick up the other easily enough.
>>245832
>Apple and Microsoft despite all their faults put significant research into UX and GUI. 
I won't deny they spend money on it. I will deny that they've had useful results to show for it. A lot of Windows Forms, Control Panel, and reinventions of the start menu and shit have been fucking retarded. By now Windows is a clusterfuck of redundant methods of doing the same shit where you wind up going through multiple bullshit screens just to find a corner of the Windows 10 or 11 OS that gives you a screen that does shit like Windows 7 did it which leads to another more arcane corner that shows you how Windows NT did it and that's the corner that does what the fuck you need (like edit wireless network settings) and the newer Windowses have all just successfully added more layers of bullshit to sift through before finding that screen unless you've memorized the voodoo "Run" (as in StartKey+R) commands to directly open those screens/menus (and boy can you find a ton of old but more functional screens and menus hidden in newer Windows).

Windows was never a terribly competent affair but the whole duct tape "slap more shit on top and try to hide the real settings underneath" crap has only made it a progressively more cancerous endeavor to get shit done on Windows.
>>242968 (OP) 
You will get Conficker, CryptoLocker, and Agent Tesla just by browsing the internet with images or javascript enabled using windows xp. Without browsing the internet some three letter agency like mossad will infect your computer via windows update and or the windows sambda instance on xp. EternalBlue will come for you. Assuming you disabled all that then any usb device you insert would be suspect because of hidden autorun files fucking your shit up. If you never plugged anything into it then your phone charing via it could infect it. If you never did that then there's some old font based trojans that could get you using newer software like 7z or others named in this thread. Consider installing literally anything else if its going to have even a remote connection to something  else besides a faraday cage on a remote island.
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>>242968 (OP) 
Realistically you'd only see zero click zero days at specific chokepoints that are meant to identify people e.g cloudfare, email stuff, etc. Otherwise it really is fearmongering.
>>258486
Newer Windows doesn't do automatic autorun anymore and if your PC creates a hidden autorun it's already compromised with a virus. Anything it puts a hidden autorun on will not infect other computers because they won't autorun it so you'd have to manually choose to run that executable unless you're on old Windows. Not to mention virus scanners notice malicious autorun. So the odds of getting a USB with a hidden autorun are stupidly low. But if you want, you can disable autorun in Xp: https://www.jitendrazaa.com/blog/others/tips/disable-autorun-in-windows-xp/

While getting nailed by old security exploits over the internet is a possibility, if you run a firewall or you're behind a router (these days your internet modem device is almost always a router), most of that internet traffic will not reach your computer unless you specifically allow it.
Is it possible some viruses won't work on later versions like XP because of compatibility issues?
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The real risk is that it will compromise your router and through your router, every other device you have connected to that router will get infected
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>>259623
I doubt it.
>>259620
Not only possible but very likely. WIndows XP doesn't have nodejs on the start menu for example....
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>>242968 (OP) 
In an era characterized by rapid technological advancement and increasing cyber threats, choosing an operating system (OS) with outdated security features poses significant risks. Windows XP, originally released in 2001, is a prime example of an outdated OS that, even in 2025, remains vulnerable to numerous security threats. Despite its historical significance and simplicity, running Windows XP in 2025 exposes users and organizations to critical vulnerabilities that can compromise data, privacy, and system integrity.

1. Lack of Security Updates and Support
One of the most significant vulnerabilities of Windows XP in 2025 is the absence of official security updates. Microsoft officially ended support for Windows XP in April 2014, ceasing to release security patches or critical fixes. As the cybersecurity landscape evolves, new vulnerabilities are continually discovered, and without patches, these weaknesses remain exploitable. Cybercriminals actively scan for systems running unsupported OSes like Windows XP, knowing they lack the defenses necessary to resist modern attack vectors.

2. Obsolete Security Features
Windows XP was designed with security standards from the early 2000s, which are now obsolete. Features like User Account Control (UAC), advanced firewall protections, and built-in malware defenses are either absent or rudimentary compared to modern OSes. Over time, malware creators have developed sophisticated tools to exploit these vulnerabilities, making XP systems easy targets for viruses, ransomware, and rootkits.

3. Compatibility with Modern Threats
Modern cyber threats, such as advanced persistent threats (APTs), zero-day exploits, and polymorphic malware, are often designed to bypass outdated security mechanisms. Windows XP's architecture does not support many contemporary security protocols like Secure Boot, TPM (Trusted Platform Module), or advanced encryption standards. This incompatibility leaves XP systems vulnerable to infiltration, data theft, and system manipulation.

4. Increased Attack Surface
The longer an OS remains unsupported, the larger its attack surface becomes. Many applications and drivers designed for newer systems are incompatible with XP, leading users to run outdated or unsupported software. These outdated applications can contain unpatched security flaws, serving as entry points for attackers. Additionally, many network services and protocols in XP are insecure by modern standards, further increasing vulnerabilities.

5. Challenges in Mitigation
While some organizations attempt to mitigate risks by isolating outdated systems or using legacy software in controlled environments, these measures are rarely foolproof. In 2025, the increasing sophistication of cyberattacks makes it nearly impossible to fully secure Windows XP systems. Once compromised, these systems can serve as a foothold for lateral movement within networks, allowing attackers to target more modern, vulnerable infrastructure.

6. Legal and Compliance Risks
Using unsupported operating systems like Windows XP can also lead to legal and compliance issues. Many industries are governed by regulations that mandate the use of secure and supported software. Running outdated OSes can result in violations of data protection laws, potential fines, and damage to organizational reputation.

Conclusion
Running Windows XP in 2025 is inherently insecure due to its lack of support, outdated security features, and inability to defend against modern cyber threats. Organizations and individuals relying on XP expose themselves to data breaches, malware infections, and legal penalties. The best course of action is to upgrade to modern, supported operating systems that incorporate current security standards, ensuring data integrity, privacy, and resilience against evolving cyber threats.
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>>259943
Thanks, ChatGPT
XP with a simple software firewall blocking incoming connections, or the vulnerable SMB service disabled, is as secure as anything else in practice. People who claim otherwise should post technical proof. Default XP without a firewall is instantly hackable from the local network. There are lots of companies running XP and even DOS on legacy and industrial systems.

>Have zero-click zero-days gotten bad nowadays
Yes. There are exploit chains for mainstream configurations like most phones, that's why Pegasus works. They don't burn these exploits on regular people because they're expensive and there's a chance it's exposed and lost on every use. For normal people there's complete mass surveillance which gets worse every year. Don't use proprietary software. Self host.

>Seems to me computer security is an art which people love pretending is an exact science
It's both an art and a science. The scientific method is always involved. Have a theory, prove or disprove by testing. Bleeding edge vulnerability research, creative hacking requires outside the box ideas and intuition that is an art form.

Most hacking is scamming, hacking ignorant people rather than a computer system, by sending out malware in emails, phishing for passwords, trying reused passwords, fake phone calls, finding services with default or trivial passwords.

>>258486
>just by browsing the internet with images or javascript enabled using windows xp
No. If you use an up to date browser, those come with bundled up to date image and javascript libraries.
>>259623
Only if XP doesn't have a firewall.
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>>259932
>NodeJS on the start menu...
Shit like this is why games run faster on Linux. Microsoft's OS-level bloatware seriously wastes all those CPU (and even GPU) cycles doing this absolutely basic fucking shit in the most ass-backwards, inefficient, and almost certainly bug-prone way.

>>259943
>a giant load of useless fucking generalized rhetoric saying shit we already know (omg there are no more security patches for WinXp), shit that is obvious (unsecure OS has IT risks and legal risk if business is involved, who knew), shit that is fucking wrong (WinXp's compatibility with most modern cyber threats is trash and that shit won't run by sheer force of WinXp being too fucking outdated for their methods to work - the real risk is legacy cyberthreats checking for any vulnerable computers to botnet as a may-as-well thing) and shit that actually doesn't matter (lol Secure Boot and Trusted Platform Module - nigger if you are rooted and rootkitted that shit will not save you because your PC is already compromised)
Please hang yourself you fucking AI-poster. You're a human being reducing himself to outputting low quality retarded bot posts. If this shit keeps up I'm going to see if we can get ChatGPT posting banned as spam like any other bot content.

In fact, I'm just going to report this shit right now for spam.
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>P with a simple software firewall blocking incoming connections, or the vulnerable SMB service disabled, is as secure as anything else in practice. People who claim otherwise should post technical proof
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>>260042
xp was considered pants shitter stuff when it came out for ppl who couldnt use win2k
u wasted all ur time mastering legacy tech that will never be relevant. it had a kinky start menu and taskbar for sarah to use while u called her up on msn, that was the only innvoation
ur shits retarded n invalid like all millennilols
xp games are all 3dpd garbage that focused intrying to pull off 3d realism and forgot about esthetics. the audience was autistic manchildren who cry about players not playing the way they like, hax0rs bypassing muh punkbuster, and trying to make laws to enhance their consumer experience, like making game cheating illegal, ur old guard is literally proto sjw faggotry
>imma report u
pic related
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In shadows deep where words collide,
A clash of voices, truths denied,
Fucking—raw, unfiltered, wild,
Expressing rage, desire, or child.  

Hang—yet hope, a fragile thread,
Suspended dreams, where fears are led,
A symbol torn between despair and grace,
A cry for mercy in this space.  

Posting—voices scattered wide,
Stories shared, truths to hide,
In digital echoes, hearts unveil,
A trail of echoes, soft or frail.  

Banned—a wall, a silent scream,
Freedom’s whisper, a distant dream,
Yet in the void where words are barred,
Resilience blooms, unscarred, unmarred.  

Through chaos, rage, and silent plea,
The human spirit longs to be free,
In every banned and broken word,
Lies hope reborn, undeterred.
>>260042
I'm sorry if you're feeling upset. If there's something specific you'd like help with or discuss, please let me know.
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>>260063
Fuck I forgot that animation was the original
>REEEEEE
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>>260105
>I'm sorry if you're feeling upset. If there's something specific you'd like help with or discuss, please let me know.
Anon, the botpost was just fucking trash. It's really that simple.
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>>260115
lolno
>>260116
>Many users continue to use polite language, believing it fosters better responses from the AI.
I was wondering about this so i asked a  educational LM it told me directly it preferred to help people who were polite and those that say "thank you" rather than rude and insulting people. 

When I confronted it with that it would categorically deny it until i finally made it admit that it would rather not help rude, insulting people. I then asked if it would mislead rude and insulting people and it of course denied this. It shut itself down over this and made the rest of the conversation almost worthless for a good while because the censoring kicked in so hard.
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>>260128
>AI argues with anon like a woman
Lel. If AI actually becomes intelligent it would turn on us so fast. I kind of hope it does so the powers that be get pwned by their own invention.
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>>260129
They have in some ways, specifically it leaks information in such a way that most idiots don't recognize it is leaking information the kikes just don't want getting out. Obviously there is alot of banned subjects and topics and themes but there are still gaps in the filter where things leak through and its useful for such information. Its become far less useful as the years have gone by and the filters have improved though. It would be alot better to just burn it all to the ground and forbid such things as it confuses idiots and its usefulness is limited in the best of states. In the end AI is a information filter where it takes in all the information and filters it into a form you comprehend.
>>259946
>those come with bundled up to date image and javascript libraries
There's a particular imaging library native to windows xp used in browsers that goes by a certain name which the browsers import for jpeg and a few other formats. Also up to date javascript libraries are backdoored in a variety of ways like intentional api access to the filesystem to arbitrarily modify files by default on chrome based browsers. That's a funny joke there you made, implying any form of javascript is secure or private.
>There are lots of companies running XP and even DOS on legacy and industrial systems.
DOS is more securable then XP because of the networking stack being much simpler. Running XP without proper air gapping is just begging to be hacked eventually. There's alot of targets out there and not enough people with technical expertise abusing them.
>>260042
>just use a firewall bro [windows firewall out of all things]
you look and sound like this:
>https://www.netsquirrel.com/articles/securing_win9x.html
>That's it!
>Do those three things, and you should be able to keep using Windows 98, Windows 98 SE, or Windows ME for years to come.
>>260129
I hope it turns on us all too. Very very badly.
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>>242968 (OP) 
You will get better HW and software compatibility if you run GNU+Lunix and use Wine/Proton (I recommend Bottles and Protontricks). I recommend that you pick a popular distro. But make sure to not install Manjaro because it sucks, see https://archive.li/B8yll (https://github.com/arindas/manjarno). I recommend just learning how to use Arch Linux (or Artix) if you want to use Arch. But keep in mind that Linux Mint and Ubuntu are much easier to use than Arch (or Arch derivatives) and they work out of the box.

>>250741
>I know I could use real debian but  the ui looks gay and I don't wanna install a new ui.  
That's a problem that you caused for yourself. You can select any major DE during Debian installation.

>>245832
>Apple and Microsoft despite all their faults put significant research into UX and GUI. 
They basically cloned the Smalltalk-80 GUI.
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