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So, I decided to get into Star Trek. I'm starting with TOS, then TNG and DS9. Are the original movies and the animated series any good? What should I avoid?
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>>87 (OP) 
What's the appeal of Star Trek, is it the world or the characters ?
I hear alot of people speak highly of it.
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>>88
For many people, it's nostalgic. Star trek and star wars was teenage or childhood year show for many people growing up so it would naturally be praised by later generations.
However it had to have been found and watched in the first place, and in that vein I would believe the show was simply unique. It portrayed a society that had solved all its internal problems and instead found conflict without interpersonal conflict. It was comfortable escapism that did not echo the politics or reality of the times it aired in; yet it was still plausible and sucked you in.
It also went slowly, developing characters and expanding on their relationships or lack thereof throughout the entire season rather than in one short episodic burst. It drew people in if they were interested at all, and didn't treat the audience with contempt.
In short, Picard sucks
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>>87 (OP) 
>What should I avoid?
Don't skip anything without at least trying it to see if you like it. Everyone has their own idea of what's good and what isn't and will tell you different things and the only way to know for certain is to watch it yourself. There's also fun to be had from joking and shitposting about some of the shitty stuff, and you can't do that if you didn't watch it.

>>88
There are many reasons, but a major one is the overall atmosphere. The shows have a very comfy feel about them, mostly stemming from the slow pace which also allowed the plots to be well developed. It's not the kind of show where people are constantly running around and shouting at each other, it's much more thoughtful.
There are also a lot of interesting ideas and stories, and a lot of it is genuinely very well written and acted.

>>89
>Picard sucks
You mean the show and not the character, right?
>>89
>However it had to have been found and watched in the first place, and in that vein I would believe the show was simply unique.
More unique at the time... TNG was my trek, it was wild how it seemed like anything could happen, episodes could be completely different from one another, focus on different characters. There were certain cliches that were repeated, but no real formula, and a great cast.

Looking back from today's perspective, after it's been copied so much, it's still unique in some of the things it *didn't* do: it had an episodic format without a lot of drawn-out plots, less soap opera aspects, less "self awareness" and winking at the audience. I can't imagine exactly how it plays for somebody coming to it after watching revived Doctor Who or Stargate or whatever.
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>>87 (OP) 
Animated series is creative because it uses scripts recycled from TOS, but it's of notoriously poor quality. I would say that if you're enthusiastic about it, then give it a go. As for the movies, it's a pretty mixed bag. The Motion Picture's pacing is fucked because it's a television script drawn out over two hours. It's a bad movie, but it has a nice aesthetic. I would rank them Wrath of Khan > The Voyage Home > Undiscovered Country > 2009 > Search for Spock > The Motion Picture > You probably shouldn't bother with anything after here > First Contact > Beyond > Generations > Don't even bother thinking about the next ones > Into Darkness > The Final Frontier > Nemesis. I don't think I've seen Insurrection, but assume it's also shit. 

I really don't think a connoisseur has to be beholden to watching every single episode of TOS or even TNG. DS9 is a mixed bag because it has a pretty weak beginning, a terrible ending, but some really strong middle to later seasons. The cast isn't as memorable, but it's way more consistently good in the middle than any of the other series. I almost would recommend Enterprise because Porthos and I wanna fuck T'Pol, but it's pretty bad. Don't watch Voyager and all that CBS All Access garbage. I'd sooner watch Gene Roddenberry's Earth: Final Conflict than that shit again.
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>>217
I remember the cat lady being pretty hot in the animated series.  How much of the show features her compared to the main crew?
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>>218
M'Ress was introduced to replace Uhura because all the budget went into the voice cast and they thought they could get away with cutting out Nichols, but after the cast disagreed and she was brought back in later episodes. I haven't watched that must of TAS to tell you if she was completely written out, but she has some screen time.

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