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>>266189 (OP) 
>What do you think is going to be the "console-seller"?
maro

It's Nintendo shit, it'll sell.  They have their Zelda,  animal crossing and bing bing.

Why are they advertising a game which came out over a decade ago? Did all the developers leave Nintendo?

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Cool, I was going to make this thread last night but forgot.
https://www.techpowerup.com/329895/nintendo-switch-leak-tips-lcd-hall-effect-joysticks
https://www.techpowerup.com/331147/nintendo-switch-2-docked-and-handheld-performance-revealed-by-tipster
>Tegra 239 with Ampere-based core, integrated DLSS support
>12GB unified RAM
>3.1 TFLOPS docked, 1.71 TFLOPS handheld (comparable to PS4, better than Steam Deck)
>Hall effect sticks (not surprising considering joycon drift is the only reason we have affordable Hall effect sticks coming out of China)

I can't believe it but I think they did the right thing here. The Switch was already pretty much the perfect device for Nintendo's target market (portable, makes local multiplayer easy, physical media is small and easy to carry, has a Nintendo logo on it) with the only serious issues being drift, the tiny kickstand, the controllers being too small for all but children and micropenis sufferers to hold comfortably in split mode and eventually performance. They fixed all of those problems, the only open questions now are backwards compatibility and battery life. Still agree with OP that they'll have a hard time convincing people it's worth $400 to upgrade, or that it's even an upgrade.

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>>266189 (OP) 
>Predictions?

>>266196
>not surprising
Didn't they get sued because of that?

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>>266198
They did, but it was forced into arbitration because goyim don't get access to due process. Instead they quietly directed support to fix drifting joycons free of charge, even without a warranty.

Looks like they've learned something from the Wii U debacle since they're bringing back public hands-on demos, but still fucked it up making it a random drawing.

Cool, now how long until Ryujinx gets update/forked to support it so I can play the new Mario Kart and Zelda without giving jewtendo money? I'm betting it would be pretty easy, which is why they sued them out of existence.

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>>266202
About tree fiddy.

>>They really just called it Switch 2
Don't tell OP about PlayStation

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nintendo adults celebrate when they're allowed to buy roms

Who is worse, Disney adults or Nintendo adults?

>>266208
Disney. How is that even up for debate.

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>>266208
Disney adults by far. Nintendo fanatics do not compare to how insufferable, entitled, and just overall childish as the average Disneyfag who will whale their entire pocket to anything related to the {{{mouse}}}.

>>266211
*((( mouse )))*

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>>266210
>>266211
Is there something you wanna tell us about that first mp4

>>266208
Probably Disney, but I'd gas them both without a second thought.

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>>266189 (OP) 
If that is the new MarioKart it doesn't look that better campared to MK8.

Anyway, while they did the right thing by sticking to the console/handheld hybrid form factor, as well as making it compatible with Switch1 games, (it would have been stupid not to) i think this will suffer the same issues of the first one, meaning that it won't be powerful enough to get third party support aside from the same indie low-effort crap that clutters the current e-shop, while the big developers will simply port their PS4/XBONE games on it, making this console appear old and obsolete already.
I can already imagine Crapcom trying to hype the crap REmakes as something new: "super duper edition! Now with all the DLCs included!"
Those exclusives need to be REALLY good if they want this shit to sell.

The form factor is almost perfect, i like that the joycons are bigger and i don't even have particularly big hands, but those things were too tiny even for me and i like the new way they plug into the console.
Hopefully, with the drift issue supposedly solved, these will last longer.

I haven't notice a change in this video, but i hope the front buttons will get bigger as well, at least as big as the PSP's, the current ones are way too small.
Another thing i hate about the switch controls are the L/R buttons that needed to be larger (or wider?) i mean, those thin stripes are not comfortable to press at all, unlike any other controller's, hell, even the PSP's had far better L/R buttons.

Regarding the Retrocomp. They also need to offer stuff like patches to offer better performance, graphics and shit like that, if you play Switch games on a S2, and not just put the RC there and call it a day.

If the price is really going to be 400 bucks then i think it's too much, at least 50/100 dollars/euros less would have been more honest.

The last doubt is about the battery life, if it is going to be less that the newer switch models is going be a disappointing downgrade regardless of whatever justification they can find for that.

Lastly, i am sure that they release the reveal only because of the leaks, otherwise they would have kept going with "maybe tomorrow, maybe next year" buffonery they did until today.

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>>266210
>>266210
<"I am a full person outside of being a mother and i am not obligated to take my children on MY vacations"
What horrible human being.
I mean, those kids will be better off without being exposed to ((( Yidsney ))) shit, but still, what kind of selfish sociopath can you be to write something like that!?
"...on MY vacations"
<That's right, fun is only for me, and only ME! And who gives a fuck about those little shits of my own children, fuck them!
Pure sociopath right there.

>>266217
Meant for
>>266211

>>266211
Why do those attachements scare me? And why does it seem like each and every single one of these people has absoutely shit taste?

>>266223
There's nothing wrong with any of those videos, bigot. If Disney added an anime theme park (You) would have the same reactions.

>>266226
>If Disney added an anime theme park (You) would have the same reactions.
Disneyland Tokyo?

>>266226
A disney anime theme park would be all shonenshit though

>>266223
>And why does it seem like each and every single one of these people has absoutely shit taste?
Much of the love of Disney are from Millennials who still nostalgiafag their first time ever visiting Disneyland. Millennials also love the most unhealthiest slop of food and buying useless merchandise, so Disneyland is the perfect place for them to act as mindless zombies. That and many of them growing up on Pixar films such as Toy Story, Aladdin, Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and q couple shows that were popular on Disney channel when everyone had TV capable.

>>266191
How'd that mindset work for the N64 and GCN?

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>>266236
I find that to be very sad as I am one of those millennials who grew up on that Yidsney content and nostalgiafag about the times I went to Yidsneyland with my grandmother. Even preferred the Yisdney Channel cartoons over much of anything on CN (Except for DCAU, Code Lyoko, and Scooby Doo) and Nick (Except for Jimmy Neutron). But for all I know, it could also be because I actually had wonderful parents who raised me, was exposed to pre-"Renaissance" Disney content (From Peter-Pan to Herbie to The Black Hole), and I had already been corrupted by anime (Like Pokemon, Sailor Moon, Digimon, and Yu-Gi-Oh). Meanwhile in a rather ironic fashion, it seems like these people only latched on after Yisdney bought Marvel and Star Wars. And almost act like there "wasn't" a Disney company prior to the 90's. Or at least anything prior to that period is "unimportant".

>>266250
>corrupted
>by anime
What? Is that some "ironic weeb" statement?

>>266251
He's a /co/nrad, one of those west beats all relics from the old chan days.

>>266189 (OP) 
>it won't sell as well as the Switch
No really?
The Switch is going to end up being the highest-selling console of all time in maybe 2-4 years, no shit the Switch 2 won't have the same level of success.
However it'll still most likely be a solid success for them, most likely selling over 100 million.

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>>266189 (OP) 
>It's game time.
What are they going to put out to top Odyssey? It's been 8 years.

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>>266315
>What are they going to put out to top Odyssey?
A good game, unlike Odyssey, hopefully.

>266319
Was Odyssey that bad?
I thought it was alright for what it was.

>>266322
It was just really fucking boring. Most moons felt like a chore to collect.
The best part of the game is the Luigi balloon mini game in the post-game.

>>266322
I think it was too casual. It felt more like A Hat in Time than an actual Mario Game, if that makes sense

>>266322
The moveset was amazing, but everything else is pretty mediocre. I played a friend's copy and I'd have to say it wouldn't really be worth my time unless the made a few whole worlds at the difficulty level of Darker Side. I may emulate it if people started hacking the game and making good custom levels.

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>>266250
I hope once they get Walt-san out of his cryogenic coffin, him and Nene can live it up on the moon base with the rest of the crew.

>>266322
The handheld "get a moon on the train to school/work" game design philosophy is ass. There are a gorillion meaningless moons with no real stages or obstacles behind them, they're just filler. Same issue with BotW shrines.

>>266322
Really bland. If there's such a thing as "too much polish" then Odyssey is the poster child for it.

>>266191
>It's Nintendo shit, it'll sell.  They have their Zelda,  animal crossing and bing bing.
>>266247
>How'd that mindset work for the N64 and GCN?
The WiiU also had bing bing wahoo.

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>>266247
It's gonna sell retards. You're actually delusional if you think it won't.

>>266251
Not him but as a gen y back in the day they would say 'dirty old man' for a reason. They changed later. Corrupt is apt with how sexualized the manga/anime was in comparison to western cartoons. Shinji is 14. Shinji is so fucked up.

>>266439
<SNES
>NES but faster, minus some enhancement chips needed to get it up to speed with the Genesis but the excellent sample-based soundchip and greater range of colors made up for it
>great controller that's a natural extension to the NES pad and more or less set the standard ergonomics for mainstream gamepads of the future
>sells gangbusters regardless of Sanic and the lack of CD addon, fuckhueg nipponese game library
<N64
>releases almost one year after it was supposed to due to delays with hardware and software dev
>and two years after the by this point well-established competition
>has the most advanced 3D accelerator chip in a consumer product...
>...gimped by a fat nigger RAMbus with the fattest burger latency this side of a KFC, 4kb texture cache that also has to double as GPU microcode and no dedicated audio DSP for some reason
>also no CD drive because Nintendo fucked their relations with both Sony and Philips, the latter leading to YTPs and the former to the Playstation
>Controller works great for M64 but is a fugly mess for most other games, unlike the Saturn and PSX pads even though they don't have muh analog
>nogaems because who the fuck would want to release games on this thing when the Playstation and Japanese Saturn exist lol
>the SDK handed out to developers until 1999 contained proprietary libraries with no source code available that ran like ass, the N64's best titles tended to be ones made by either Nintendo who had full access to said code or turboautists who embraced god and wrote their own compiler (Rare, Factor 5)
>less than 300 games released in Japan, lol
>Controller had an expansion slot
>coulda been neat and the rumble pak was nice, but in a move of desperation Nintendo started selling memory cards so devs wouldn't have to put save batteries on their cartridges
>basically a joke-tier system if not for the few games on it that were literally Hitler in terms of quality
<Wii U
>Why the fuck name the successor like a possible addon to its predecessor aimed at old men and toddlers, which itself already had addons named "Wii Fit" and "Wii Motion+"???
>Gee, it's like someone took a Wii's CPU, souped it up even further and tied it to some bargain bin AMD trash from 2009 found in a Thai dumpster
>why the fuck is 1GB of the system's 2GB of RAM permanently assigned to the operating system????
>why the fuck is the controller some iPad thing with buttons but no internal processing capability aside from a video decoder completely dependent on a constant feed from the console itself??????
>HOW THE FUCK IS THAT CONTROLLER MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE CONSOLE ITSELF?!?!?
>even Bing Bing Wahoo couldn't save the Wii U
>b-but it had full Wii backwards compatibility a-and DS Virtual console s-so it's fine

Now as for the Bing Bing Switcheroo, I expect it to sell but not at the same rate the Switch did unless Nintendo has some hard exclusive system sellers early on which I highly doubt, and while in the short term this could be fine if they don't start pumping out some gud fuggin gaems the UMPC hordes from the western steppe could eventually overrun them once emulation or wrapping becomes viable.

>>266484
>I expect it to sell but not at the same rate the Switch did unless Nintendo has some hard exclusive system sellers early on
It's also worth remembering that the Nintendo that existed in the early days of Switch is pretty different from the Nintendo that exists today. Early Switch era Nintendo was making unapologetically sexy games like Xenoblade 2, but current Nintendo is preventing lewd games from even releasing on their system like Sony of America. 

I can't see their exclusive library being as good for the Switch 2 with the constant downward trend towards westernization.

>>266485
>Early Switch era Nintendo was making unapologetically sexy games like Xenoblade 2, 
Speaking of which - Yasunori Mitsuda, one of the composers for Xenoblade, spoke out against the rising trend of censorship in media a few years back which has most likely gotten him blacklisted from the Japanese entertainment industry by now.

Xenoblade 4's soundtrack will be composed by Toby Fox and Lena Raine in his stead and you WILL like it.

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>>266487
I would also like to bring up that what also sold the Switch was stealing "rereleasing" every game under the sun. Now that the Switch 2 is out, what's left to play that 'hasn't' already been ported to the Switch?

>>266491
They can just port it again and the shiteaters will buy it up again.

>>266492
Because that's working out SO well for Snowy and the No Games 5.

>>266494
Soyny's problem is that it has all it's priorities 8 years in the past and has a history of shitting on core pillars of it's entire money-making structure (see: alienating every remotely risque developer in favor of ???). Nintendo has hordes of mindless drones who eat up anything they shit out so long as they slap it on the latest marketing video (aka direct).

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>>266499
That didn't save the Wii U though. I don't think Switch 2 is going to be a Wii U level disaster but I do think it will be a sales disappointment compared to the first time, especially if they don't issue title updates "Pro" style to turn that massive back catalog into an asset.

>>266492
But better graphics!

>>266189 (OP) 
>without another chink-flu
Buddy have I got news for you..

>>266523
How's Devon these days? Still farming his cacti innawoods?

>>266491
I know it's mostly a shitpost, but still. That image would only make sense if first party games were the only thing on the system. Wii U sucked to dev for, so companies just didn't. Switch is near trivial to dev for, so it has fucktons of games. 
There's also the reverse influence of no one wanting to dev for the Wii U because it had poor sales numbers, but that's diagnosing a symptom as the cause. Only works for later in the system's lifecycle.

According to 10 seconds of searching (so forgive me if this isn't 100% accurate) there's 1,384 Wii U games VS about 12k so far for the Switch. 
Before the Switch 2 release that number will continue to increase, and I wouldn't be surprised if especially indies continue to release on the Switch after if Nintendo allows them to. But plenty of them are too retarded to optimize, so some chunk of them will only target Switch 2 plus maybe some money from Nintendo to convince them, and thus the soyfaces that enjoy their indies on the Switch instead of a Steamdeck will upgrade.

>>266527
>Wii U sucked to dev
No, it didn't. Developers found the Wii U even easier to program for than the 360 (Which they found iMacs to be extremely compatible with ironically enough), let alone the PS3 and it's esoterich cells. Not to mention how "difficult to program for" didn't hinder devs ability to develop games for the PS2 or even the Wii's wagglin'. The problem was that the industry didn't want it. From how EA pulled all support after Nintendo refused to allow their online to be entirely backboned through Origin to how Treehouse was sabotaging the company internally for daring to release the games people wanted like Bayonetta 2, Fatal Frame 5, and Devil's Third.
>According to 10 seconds of searching (so forgive me if this isn't 100% accurate) there's 1,384 Wii U games VS about 12k so far for the Switch.
You're also forgetting the 2.2k+ games carried over from the Wii.
<That doesn't sound like much
Compared that to the Xbone and PS4 that had zero backwards compatibility (at launch)? Or the 360's  1.1K (Plus 300 from the original Xbox) and the PS3's 1k (Plus the 70 PS2 games (Because "no one" had the first-gen Phat models by this point) and 4.4k PS1 games).

If we're to compare it to other systems, the Switch 2 is currently in the same position as the Wii U, the Vita, the 3DS, the PS3, the NDS, the PS2, the GBA, and the GBC. It sort of says something that half of those systems were knock-out successes, meanwhile the other half "failed" or required the company to move heaven and Earth before they began to make a profit on it.

Personally, I don't know about the Switch 2. On the one hand, it's the only current system being put out by a company that that hasn't decided to burn every bridge possible (Thus far). But on the other hand, there's little reason to upgrade if you're going to be playing the "same games" you're already playing (If not on the Switch, at least on PC). This issue is even more pressing when everyone who's interested in buying a Switch already owns one by this point. The system has been out for eight years, and it's already well beyond the PS2's sales numbers by the time that system reached it's eighth year of sales (Still has yet to pass the NDS's 154 million by that same metric).

>>266526
He dared to suggest that Zion Don releasing the J6 prisoners now when he could have done it four years ago instead of pardoning random nogs was too little too late and now MIGAtards are shitting their diapers over him. Absolutely no wrongthink or dissidence allowed in the online right.

>>266523
>Bird flu lockdowns
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>>266534
Except he didn't say that. He said exactly, "It's actually not worth it. Nothing is more radicalizing than political prisoners. Ask Hitler or Nelson Mandela." in context of one of his fans approving of Trump's release of the J6 prisoners. Devon is retarded, because Hitler was in jail and treated better than the J6 prisoners.

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>>266540
Goddamn, niggers. We have boards for politics. Why have this argument on /v/?

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>>266529
>Because "no one" had the first-gen Phat models by this point
I did.

>>266484
>UMPC hordes
Man you're fucking delusional.

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>>266578
Do you have a better analogy?

>>266247
Only children and bare handful of adults were playing vidya then anon.
Brand cultism is much bigger now.
>>266439
The PiiU wasn't the follow up to the most successful console in the current gen (based on sales).
>>266191
>It's Nintendo shit, it'll sell.
Is the hard pill most need to swallow because they don't have nogames and they have allowed reverse compat.
Even though they engage in heinous corporate decisions and their localisers are still butchering the games, at least they are producing good games as a whole.

>>266581
Its currently a very small market, they are nowhere near a horde.

>>266850
It's definitely growing. Consoles being an absolute trash fire helps, so does the AI bubble making recent GPUs impossible to buy.

I'll buy one because I love portable consoles and dearly miss the Vita. The first Kirby Air Ride was pretty good so I'm getting the new one.