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Because things at cafe/k/ were getting too autistic and schizophrenic.

Current Happenings:
>Soledar has fallen
>Western countries panicking and sending mass amounts of money/armor to Ukraine 
>Most of this equipment is useless in the Donbass but could be used to strike towards Melitopol
>Allegedly surrendered Ukrainian conscripts have a lot of frostbite and/or tuberculosis
>Norway, Canada, and the Baltics rushing to supply Ukraine with winter gear
>Russians attempting to encircle the Northern Bakhmut route
>Spreading out to Pidhorodne and Klishchiivka
>Ukraine will either have to counterattack soon (now, at great losses) or abandon Bakhmut soon
>Ukrainians continue to hold the train stations on the outskirts of Soledar- Western maps claim this means Russia owns none of Soledar
>tl;dr- Bakhmut/Soledar aren't important towns, but Ukraine has turned the two towns in the bottom of a valley in perfect range of artillery into important towns with their turning them into a meatgrinder
>Russia restructured their military
>Official line is that Gerasimov was above Surovikin in rank and thus was always in charge of the war
>Unofficial line is that the Russians only intended to use Surovikin to get the war back on-track to not ruin Gerasimov's reputation
>Tensions between the military high command and Wagner after the Russian military refused to accredit them with the capture of Soledar because Prigozhin called Shoigu and Gerasimov fucking idiots
>Ukraine seems more panicked about this change in leadership while Russian citizens/infantry seem somewhat pissed off
>Military forced to make a statement explicitly praising Wagner after massive civilian backlash on social media
>Ukraine's Mozart group (foreign PMC) is claiming they "only perform humanitarian missions and don't engage in combat"
>Ukraine caught using seven figure missiles to shoot down five figure drones in Kiev
>Strikes on Dnipro suggest that Ukraine has expended most of their surface-to-air missiles
>Surovikin, having retained his post as head of the Russian Air Force, is likely to be involved in further bombing runs that will be credited to Gerasimov (unless a new front opens)
>Russia is expected to attack "somewhere" in the net month or so
>Ukraine seems to be in a panicked state because they don't know where Russia will strike from
>Lukashenko reminded the Kiev regime that any attacks on Belarus (now head of the CSTO) will be seen as an attack on ALL CSTO nations
>Russians mobilizing in Belgorod, Zaporizhia, and Mozyr suggesting there will be a repeat of Russia's "attack from every direction then send reinforcements to whatever sticks" strategy under Gerasimov

Link Dump: 
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html (documents equipment losses; strong Ukrainian bias)
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/6/viewer?z=6&mid=1iE-0CwiZnHYtLgndqU3l2G7VInoZE9o (THETI maps: shows both troops deployments and conflict areas)
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1_JYk9u6A-TBxADdy2oqLfjFQr5koKT8 (Weeb Union Map)
https://militaryland.net/tag/maps/ (Daily updates) 
https://liveuamap.com/ (Ukrainian propaganda map)
https://maphub.net/Cen4infoRes/russian-ukraine-monitor (Intentionally up to a week old) 
https://opermap.mash.ru/ (Russian propaganda map) 
https://militarymaps.info/ (requires Russian social media account and Russian payment processors) 
http://defensepoliticsasia.com/Ukraine/ (requires giving DPA $12/month now)

https://www.youtube.com/@WeebUnionWar/videos (Weeb Union - Shortest briefing but accurate)
https://www.youtube.com/@Theti/videos (THETI Mapping - More detailed briefings but sounds like a teen)
https://www.youtube.com/@historylegends/videos (French Comedian/Historian)
https://www.youtube.com/@militarylabb/videos (Numbers and brief overviews of the day's news; no bullshit) 
https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary/videos ("Breaking news" Belarusian take on the war - Subject to Russian Army fanboyism sometimes)  
https://www.youtube.com/@newworldecon4517/videos (Covers Economic matters in regard to Ukraine, updates on the frontlines, shorts, and other things) 
https://www.youtube.com/c/MilitaryandForeignAffairsNetwork (Military and foreign affairs network; slightly pro-Ukrainian and uses militaryland maps allowing him to cover more specific military groups and pockets at the cost of less breaking news) 
https://www.youtube.com/@WiU/videos (Least biased "breaking news" Reddit "OSINT" take on the war) 
https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday (Patrick Lancaster reporting from Russian side) 
https://www.youtube.com/c/GrahamPhillipsUK (Graham Phillips less personal more professional reporting from the Russian side) 
https://www.youtube.com/c/AlexanderMercourisReal (Alexander Mercouris; Discusses the geopolitical issues of policies and their effects) 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgGHiivhFq7M_1MLemh-cjg (Singaporean take on the war - Typically a day or two old and shits on his userbase)
https://www.youtube.com/@dpa-war/videos (DPA's war-specific channel now)
https://www.youtube.com/user/Itapirkanmaa2/videos (Z) 
https://www.youtube.com/c/UkraineCombatFootage/videos (counter-Z) 
https://www.youtube.com/c/DjukiSan/videos (Z2) 
https://www.youtube.com/c/RoadHomeMotorcycleVlogs (Ukrainian propaganda channel)
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>Russians pushing to control Eastern bank of Oskil river
>Slowly preparing for Liman offensive
>Estimated 200k troops in Belgorod region
>Pushing along the E40 south of Bakhmut to force Ukraine to divert its attention
>Took the hill South-West of Ivanivske meaning they can attack the town whenever they feel like it
Basically not much, just lots of death.
why is it so hard to find pro-jewkraine war footage? wouldn't their Ministry of Truth be pumping it out 24/7? saw lots of it early on in the war but it seems to have all dried up.
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>saw lots of it early on in the war but it seems to have all dried up.
Cellphones are basically giant invisible targets and carrying around a Chink knockoff GoPro is a good way to be seen  and shot. I think it's just natural selection. Early on every Ukrainian had a cellphone or a drone, but now drones are tight and the guys with cellphones got shot/blown up.
HistoryLegends had a good coverage of the Bakhmut battle through January.
Vlogger asks Russians what they think will happen to Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yqbe_6vg14

Frenchie makes a good road map of positions near Bakhmut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW38cLZ-tOc
It dried up because while the Russians aren't absolutely wiping the floor with the Ukrainians to the extent of utterly destroying hohols the Ukrainians aren't exactly doing so wonderful themselves because they keep losing territory and will probably need another Kharkiv tier victory to get the proper gander train rolling again.
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King Joe visited King Jew in Ukraine today.
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>He though he could outlast us. He was dead wrong
>The war is still ongoing
Lol. LMAO even.
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Shelling in Ivanopillia, Donetsk
the amount of jewtin chode-sucking on cafe/k/ makes it impossible for me to believe it's not infested with russian shills. how anyone can say that he's some genius leader or literal god on earth is beyond me, he's just as retarded as everyone else involved in this conflict. it's the same as the trump worshipping in 2015-16 and the Qtard way of thinking, nothing that happens is going to change their mind about him. in their mind he's a god that can do no wrong, every move he makes no matter how blatantly wrong or retarded is part of his master plan, anyone who says otherwise is a hohol shill/amerimutt. does this sound familiar?
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This is the part where you expect someone to get mad and call you a hohol cocksucker. Fuck you, how about you leave that shit behind at the nigger cafe instead of dragging the dramatic horseshit here and just talk about something that isn't obsessing over who sucks what dick.
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How do you take back Ukraine including Crimea?
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you're right, i shouldn't be starting board wars.

with their limited options they have right now, i can't. i can't see any possible way to take back anything, really. they've been on the defense ever since they reclaimed kharkiv (read: vatniks got bored and left) and they've been getting grinded away left and right. bakhmut will fall within a week after being encircled, and there goes their propaganda piece.
they simply don't have the men or materiel to get things done, along with a heavily fortified frontline in favor of russia it's not going to happen.
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Tomorrow is the one-year point of the slapfest, do you think either side is going to try something crazy?
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>Minister of Defense of Poland Mariusz Błaszczak: We have started a preventive expansion of security measures on the border with Russia and Belarus. This is part of our defense and deterrence strategy. The first fortifications are already being placed on the border with the Kaliningrad Oblast
highly doubt they're going to fuck around from Kaliningrad but this still brings a bit of concern. or maybe's it's just propaganda like AOC crying in front of a fence.
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more pics
Doesn't seem like Russia had any plans for an anniversary push, the slow grind continues.
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Yeah I don't get my hopes up for anything really wild happening on any predicted dates anymore. The only thing I think when I see someone say "it gonsda happen in tew weeks" is "no it fucking won't". It would be completely retarded to forecast your plans that blatantly anyway. Then again it's not like that doesn't happen.
UAF appears to have blown a dam in Bakhmut, which would presumably slow down Rus forces pushing down on them from the north. Could be them buying time to GTFO and push back to Chasiv Yar.
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Ukraine allegedly shot down 11 out of 14 drones that Russia sent last night
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Explosions at an alleged Russian ammo depot in Kadiivka
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Large group of Ukrainian saboteurs made it to Briansk in Russia proper to stir shit up. Apparently there was enough chaos to make Putin cancel a trip to Stavropol and have an emergency meeting with his security council.
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History Legends did a good video explaining why Wagner's tactics are successful against wave defenses,and how Ukraine might be double or triple penetrated depending on how elaborate the Russians wanna get with this encirclement.
He visited while the citizens of Ohio were dealing with one of the worst chemical spills of the 21st century, yes. How kind of him to give the actor money.

Anon you don't get it. In my wizardly years of life, I have never experienced a president as good as Trump. Trump was the best numbers of my life where I was actually paying off my debts and contributing back to society with hope for a less intense rat race in life. The Russians I've spoken to? Putin is that to them. It's not that either were particularly "good" or even the possible best options, but they've both done more for their respective countries than anyone else in the last 30+ years which is why they are looked upon favorably. Anyways like >>355 that's the less I'll speak on that.

Without a time machine?
>End war
>Install a pro-Russian government in Ukraine
>Russia willingly gives the territory back to the Russia-friendly Ukraine so long as Ukraine confederates to ensure this never happens again within our lifetimes
Alternatively if you are opposed to an inevitable Russian-puppet/balkanized Ukraine, and are trying to prevent WWIII...
>Get America to agree to Russian security guarantees before China officially sides with Russia and starts supplying them with munitions this Summer/Autumn
>A NATO-Poland taskforce black bags Zelensky and other high-ranking Kievan authorities
>In exchange NATO can't station troops or weapons East of Poland
>Ukraine is officially allowed to have their territories back in exchange for confederation of Ukrainian territory so that this never happens again
>They can be part of the EU too as soon as their war debt is paid off
>Russia and America duke it out in the international courts on how Ukraine shall presumably pay both of them back at the same time for their debts (Soviet, oil, and War debt for Russia, weapons debt and broken biolab/energy contracts for America), but a neutered Ukraine has no more war and "keeps" all its territory by respecting the rights of its outlying regions
>This lawsuit ends up improving Russo-American relations in the wake of a conservative ballot harvesting effort in 2024 
>A new god-era of mankind is brought about as the bugmen and merchant guilds (both long-beard and long-nose guilds) are purged by the populist Russo-American Christian movement

Their best option would be to negotiate an end to the war, but they unfortunately double-crossed Russia during the last bout of negotiations last year so now the demilitarization demands which were optional last time are a mandatory minimum now.
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I mean in a sense it might, but at the same time that's the same as giving up everything on the opposite side of their makeshift moat.

It sounds like Russia is going to play along the same way Belarus is playing along with the idea of these border attacks being "domestic terrorists" in order to not escalate the war further. From the sounds of it the little girl is secured virginity not confirmed and all 50 raiders were killed.
>look this up
>ukrainians saying nuh uh we wasn't shooting no civvies we dindu nuffin
This wouldn't be hard to buy if they hadn't spent 8 years before the start of this speshul operashun doing exactly that.
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Hohols blowing bridges in and around Bakhmut
I understand they've built it up as a pseduo-Stalingrad and have refused to let it go for propaganda purposes (and that it would give vatniks access to the high ground and allow them to shell a much larger area), but at a certain point you're just dumping men into an incrasingly smaller meatgrinder. There is now one major road left between Bakhmut and Chasiv Yar, and vatniks are less than a mile from it and probably shelling whoever comes near it.
Also as stupid as it sounds their best bet at this point (and really only option) is to try and drive a wedge between Crimea and the rest of Eastern Ukraine. My guess would be they should try to push down through to Melitopol as that is the major hub between Southern Ukraine and the East. It's stupid, won't work, and will kill a lot of people on both sides, but they really don't have much of an option.
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Zelensky also meeting with President Snow Lula for reasons
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I can't imagine much will come of that since Lula threw his money behind China.
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What can Brazil even do for him anyway?
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million-monkey army
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sopa de ruscaco uma delicia huehuehue
Primarily food aid.
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>"Nuclear strike has been conducted, please go to the shelter, take your calcium iodide pills" - red alert in several regions of Russia broadcasted via TV and radio in a suspected cyber attack
Hawaii moment
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But will we get stories of wincest out of it like with Hawaii?
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>implying vatniks don't bang their siblings on a regular basis
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I'm not sure that's something to be proud of even if a cold tundra/Yakutian forest might awaken that desire in anon.
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>proud of
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Yes in most places that aren't America, incest is not a fact of life.
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Strelok, that had nothing to do with Alabama and more to do with the innate human desire to laugh when other humans do something incredibly stupid - such as incest over false nuclear warnings.
I'm gonna chalk this up to your English being poor and not you being schizophrenic.
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Jewlenskyy and Prime MILF of Finland pressing F to pay respects to Hero of Ukraine Dmytro "Da Vinci" Kotsyubaylo. /who/
It's sounding more and more like those bridges in Bakhmut were blown up to prevent retreat rather than to prevent Russian crossing.
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Can't it be both?
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It could technically, but that's like assuming someone meant to dodge the comedic Rube-Goldberg machine coming straight at them when it was just a coincidence that they bent over to pick up a nickel at the perfect time.
Russian jet and a burger drone crashed into each other over the Black Sea. Burgers are saying the jet was dumping fuel on it and riding its bumper.
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They seem to be conveying naughty thoughts and bad feelings to one another and leaving it at that. I remain unimpressed. I bet the pilots had a good laugh about it.
ICOJ has now put out an arrest warrant for Putler for "abducting Ukrainian children", whatever that implies
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Sounds like a propaganda move made so that the hohols and their backers can attempt to push the blame for all of that child sex trafficking they've been doing for decades off on pooter. Not that there isn't plenty of sex shit in Russia too but the difference is western elites aren't quite as embedded in that particular area.
Remember to remind people that Ukraine is where a huge amount of CP was made by the way, no one cares about the war crimes and money laundering or they at least jump through hoops to justify those, but kiddie diddling is something that throws even the most propagandized normalfag off balance.
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When I first heard about it I immediately thought of the Nayirah testimony or muh Iraqi WMDs, this seems like something to further convince the public that NATO intervention is necessary
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Well what I don't understand as far as the US goes is how the government and media have heavily alienated the patriautist white population that they apparently need to fight for them in their goy wars (so they can even attempt to truly cripple Russia and kill as many whybois as possible on both sides) despite claims to the contrary, yet are still charging full steam ahead fucking around with both Russia and China even though they seem to be having a hard time recruiting even gibs niggers, not to mention white fighting age males.
I always see niggerpills claim this is some grand jew plan but it just looks like incompetent floundering on the behalf of a dying western society while Russia simply takes advantage of the opportunity.
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Why the fuck do italics change the color of the text here?
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most nogs join the military anyways just so they can get free college after they go through boot camp, which is also being made increasingly easier at the cost of effective training. burgers have been bitchslapping sand people around for the past 30 years that they've forgotten how to fight against a real military. if the air force can't pull it's weight in a conventional war then everything falls apart.

looks fine on my end
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>"We aren't recognized by the three major powers ad legitimate"
>"I know, let's pick the side that's currently pissing off the other two factions and is currently losing!"
>"Specifically the side that has explicitly sanctioned our chief justices for aiding and abetting terror over our Afghanistan investigation!"

They're just looking for dirt to smear. All the relevant Middle Eastern leaders and "neutral(ish)" Eastern European countries are meeting with Xi and Putin next week to discuss a new pro-Syrian political/economic bloc which will fuck over Europe. If this comes to any kind of fruition then Europe is solely reliant on Norway and America for gas if they don't wany to give money to Russia indirectly. Israel, Turkey, and Sauds are discussing peace with Assad right now.
>I always see niggerpills claim this is some grand jew plan but it just looks like incompetent floundering on the behalf of a dying western society while Russia simply takes advantage of the opportunity.
It's why I don't give much thought to Jews since that's exactly what's happening. It's easier to believe old money inbred too much/couldn't keep up with the times and everything is falling apart thanks to social media algorithms and children not being raised right than it is to think there's an actual grande conspiracy. The Boomer->GenX->Millennial divide isn't just a cultural/economic one, it's a technological one. We're one of the few case-points in human history where three generations in a row experienced a radically different upbringing/job market than their grandparents and algorithm/belief that man is god drives the average person instead of belief in a higher power/being. This hasn't happened since Roman times or the Islamic Golden Age.
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>most nogs join the military anyways just so they can get free college after they go through boot camp
Yeah that's part of my point, even those kind of nigger recruits are increasingly hard to get. If you can't even get a monkey to do your bidding for gibs then you fucked up very badly.
>looks fine on my end
It seems to have fixed itself for me but that shit was blue.
Yeah that's about how I see it too. Except jews are still opportunistic rats that definitely exacerbate the situation so I'm still not keen on them being allowed in any kind of position of influence. I just don't believe they planned this shit 2000 years ago or whatever delusional schizo magic bullshit I'm constantly told I'm a retard for not believing.
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Thing is, elite jews plan for literally everything, even things that never happen. They're extremely neurotic and paranoid. The reason why they seem to come out on top of every crisis is because they immediately move all their forces in the political and economic sectors to take advantage of any given problem.

This gives an illusion of control where it's more just insane flexibility. They have no scruples or loyalty to anyone so they can quickly move to work almost anything to their advantage. Examples:

>America Collapses
<Short the economy, sell remaining US assets, flee to Israel, cosy up to China - "look how oppressed we are, look how badly they treat us. We'll invest in your economy if you let us stay"
>America stays around / gets stronger
<Use US military to kill people you don't like, milk money from US foreign aid, continue to infiltrate and dominate US corporations and government 
Either way they can throw their weight behind any scenario to make themselves richer and more powerful, and even if there is a split - 40% of jews do one thing and 60% another - the winners will ALWAYS cover for the losers because they're all jews and they're all in it together.
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Yeah I'm not going to deny they're very good at opportunism. I don't see China being much help for them in the event of US collapse though, they're still heavily reliant on western resources to maintain their way of life and if the US fails then the EU will most likely fall apart and go back to the good old days of Europeans being truly vicious cunts to one another so the chinks won't have much luck there either. Unless they get enough out of their African colonies to stay afloat, but relying on Africa for anything without murdering and brutally subjugating all of the inhabitants is its own retarded monster to contend with.
Would Russia accept them?
Apparently Russia and China have agreed to a pesudo-military alliance (military alliance in everything but joint exercises). Most importantly China has promised to help protect the Russian territories in Ukraine and Russia has promised to help protect Taiwan from America.

Ukraine is expected to have their great Zaporizhian offensive in the next month at an unspecified date using DU rounds. Dima predicts Ukraine will bulldoze Wagner because Gerasimov has set Prigozhin up 14k against 80k in Bakhmut. Mercouris seemed unperturbed by these numbers and thinks the Russians will be fine.
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>protect Taiwan from America
I'd really like to see this play out, the chinks postured hard and then their boner turned out to be a deflated balloon when the geriatric alcoholic cunt decided to pay a visit despite it all.
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In practice the main threat America has over China is a joint-naval embargo between (possibly) Korea (assuming they don't backstab us), Japan, Australia, and America (and anyone else who decides to help out). Assuming Chinese-Russian trade ties are doing well, then China has mainland Asia trade routes through most of Western Asia (Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Iran, etc.) directly to Russia even if the Siberian lines were threatened or a naval blockade came about to punish China.
Not to get anon excited but there's been a major breakthrough by the Russians at Bakhmut and the AZOM plant.
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Don't worry all of this shit is taking so long it's impossible to get excited over it.
The guy in charge of the Russian garrison in Vuhledar and Zaporizhia just got shitcanned yesterday. In other news, Russians seem to have swapped to attacking with glide bombs instead of artillery around Sumy. These are much more destructive/precision-guided than artillery, and there's a noticable lack of SAMs around to shoot down the Russian planes dropping 'em (suggesting either Ukraine is out of AA or Russia was targeting their AA).
Gerasimov also apparently justified the use of tanks as short-range artillery because Soviet ammunition is cheap  confirming the Russians are using Soviet-era tanks as surplus artillery.
Well Finland is part if NATO now, but how much does this matter? Isn't Finland mountainous as fuck and basically a tremendous pain in the ass to invade into or invade from unlike Ukraine which has much fkatter geography?
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Finland's got a couple nice pieces of land but it doesn't change much. Finnish "neutrality" was always on the basis of a gentlemen's agreement of their prime minister (currently a woman) to not start shit and a piece of paper saying America will invade Russia if Russia attacks Finland again.
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So it was already basically a NATO country just not officially until now.
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NATO has lots of close friends and allies outside of Europe, however their shenanigans are push more and more of them towards Russia. I'm convinced Turkey is only in NATO at this point because of their strategic position and is more of a trojan horse than they are an ally since the watermelon seller loves to play both sides and fail at it, if they get kicked out they'll immediately join CSO and probably start the same game again.
>s400 or f35
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also lol
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Basically, yeah. In theory they'll get some military discounts, maybe some discounts on certain manufactured goods, and now France will also help them if invaded, but the fundamentals of the existing alliances didn't really change with them or Sweden (who was in the same boat). Actually Sweden kinda gets fucked over because they were directly competing with NATO for airforce/naval sales and now they're gonna have to merge that military industrial complex with Norway, Poland, and France's MIC (and Germany's if it still exists in a decade). It's gonna be a massive headache.
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lol indeed, wonder if he enjoys the taste of those words.
Sounds like the kind of bloated retarded bullshit right before WW1 only the hostilities are directed almost entirely at Russia this time around.
I'm chuckling, but in that anon's defense the situation in February 2022 was completely different and nobody expected Western countries to go full retard at that time. Even sleepy Joe was saying "yeah if Putin takes Donbass we wouldn't really respond" the October prior.
>recently seeing a lot of posts on multiple sites claiming Bakhmut is irrelevant
>this after months of smug shitflinging about Russia never ever taking the city and Bakhmut stronk etc.
I really must be autistic because it never ceases to baffle me how fags can turn a narrative around like this on a dime and seemingly believe it wholeheartedly. I'm still trying to process how almost every person I know irl suddenly became so deeply concerned about Ukraine despite either not caring or outright not knowing about the shit that happened in 2014.
Also what is the situation? Are the Russians about to take it and this is why the narrative is being shifted or did something big happen elsewhere in Ukraine that suddenly made Bakhmut less important?
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mainstream media probably realizing that hohol positions in Bakhmut are untenable so they're now trying to portray it as irrelevant even though it is absolutely relevent as it is the geographically highest point in the East and whoever controls it has a huge artillery advantage
HistoryLegends has a new video out this morning: https://youtube.com/watch?v=C6_TO5rwi6U
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Finnish Greens (far left backbone of the SDP which the PM is a member of) just lost half of their seats primarily to anti-NATO/anti-war independence parties.
considering they got in as their dying act i'd say it's too late now. they're a part of the murder-suicide pact whether they like it or not.
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If a NATO country's government refuses to comply with NATO doctrine then what happens? Not that I expect this to happen but it's interesting to think about how if the rest of gay toe was telling Finland to do something and they just stood there slapping their collective cock at everyone while screaming PERKELE. Doesn't Turkey already pretty much do that on the regular?
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Yes, Turkey does it and gets away with it all the time because they provide a strategic entry point into the Middle East, so NATO puts up with the Watermelon Seller's bullshit. For someone like Finland I think they would actually have some respect for the organization they're a part of and will go through with whatever they're asked to do, unless it's something stupid like ordering them to reclaim their lost land from WW2.
Russia has legally taken Bakhmut by flying the Russian Federation's flag over the administrative building. In terms of fire control they control roughly 40-60% of the city based on source.
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>What can Brazil even do for him anyway?
Exports of coffee and Taurus revolvers? The former probably being more useful since it will keep the Holol army awake but honestly makes me wonder why he's not talking more with other South American countries that aren't BRICS members. Sure BRICS isn't exactly a cohesive alliance but rather more like a mutual agreement to not Jew each other to hard in trade and commerce which doesn't actually work since China doesn't give a fuck since the CCP can just gibs the Hues free shit which would risk Zelensky's free shit potentially getting canceled, then Xi ends up with all the Taurus revolvers and yummy fruit. But who knows, maybe the Huezillians are looking to do a little Jewing themselves and play both sides? I dunno wouldn't be the first time.
If I were him I'd focus more on getting gibs from Belize, Ecuador, and Chile for coffee beans and maybe some papaya's too since those are yummy.

A better question is what can a war time Ukraine with virtually no economy offer Brazil?
I like papayas, I should get some the next time I go grocery shopping.

>I can't imagine much will come of that since Lula threw his money behind China.
Exactly what I was thinking.

Why not just mine the place to hell at this point? Because clearly Russia isn't running out of prisoners, cheap drones Chinese and Iranian drones, or the occasional Chechen warlord to throw at the territory any time soon and Russia can always just create new laws thus creating new criminal youths if they do start running out.

>>322 (OP) 
>Because things at cafe/k/ were getting too autistic and schizophrenic.
The same fate will inevitably fall upon this place too OP, it's not some conflict between the Congo and Zimbabwe, it's a war between two countries people actually care both of which have real economies or did anyway. And besides CIAniggers and FSBniggers and their willful shills can be spotted from a mile away.

Don't believe anything in the fog of war, we're but mere arm chair commando faggots speculating what is and isn't reality. Take everything with a grain of salt and assume everyone is a shill.

>How do you take back Ukraine including Crimea?
With what navy? Are the Ukrainians gonna besiege the Peninsula lined with pill boxes and Czech hedgehogs in fishing boats? Not to mention mining their own sea ports is a double edge sword, yes it stopped Russia from effectively taking away even more Holol coastline territory but it also doesn't allow for being as spread out as you'd want since the reality is they'd lose ships before even leaving the docks hence why being clustered together especially in the age of guided missiles and drones is bad. Hypothetically a dozen modified civilian boats armed with light howitzers, RPG's, anti material rifles, an singer missiles and flairs could maybe take down one destroyer if your real fucking lucky but that would be at a huge cost of life unless you find dozens of foreigners who really want to really REALLY want to join a rag tack redneck privateer crew to life up their modern pirate fantasies and then likely sell off whatever they don't use on the black market, I mean WTF would they expect from literal pirates? Which I don't personally have a problem with per say since I'm pro armed civilian but a good chunk of those would end up in the hands of violent criminals.

Actually, now that I think about it you probably could convince a bunch of dumb foreigners to willingly go toe to toe with the Russian navy in modified fishing vessels if Ukraine's foreign legion made up of Redditors and trannies is anything to go by.
Might as well give it a try for the LoLz I guess, it could either catch Poutine off guard and become a moderate success at crippling yet another ancient Soviet destroyer or aircraft carrier leading to Russian seething or the pirate larpers get anally annihilated and Russia gets accused of committing more war crimes for attacking poor fishermen who din do nuffin.
Either way that sounds fucking hilarious and I want that to happen now, Somali coast 2.0 when?
Maybe that's the meme offense the Ukrainian generals are hinting at and I'm a fucking fortune teller.

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and there it goes. on to Chasiv Yar, let's see if they can hold out there as long as they did with Bakhmut they can't
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They can't, but Chasiv Yar is actually set up in a fairly defendable position. If the Ukrainians wasted everything then this will be a cakewalk. Otherwise expect a fairly prolonged battle. If Western opinion still takes a "oh shit we fucked up" stance a month from now then the war is basically ogre.
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To absolutely nobody's surprise but the DOD, a purported leak from inside NATO shows US SOF in Ukraine as well as plans . As to if it is a training role or not... I leave it up to you to decide. 
What's interesting to me is the disposition of the manpower differences between UAF and RF. That and what appears to be a lack of 122mm ammo.
>Kherson  RF 15k to UAF 2.5k
>Zaporizhzhia RF to UAF 4-8k
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The worst part is the leaker left enough OpSec in his images that anyone could reasonably pin down roughly where he leaked it. The Kremlin's response (or rather Peskov's response to Sky News acting on behalf of CNN) has basically been "it doesn't change anything" but lord only knows if they gleamed anything privately from the information. The Pentagon is claiming that the documents are "real but altered" and that "the Russians removed a zero from the numbers :^)"
Does anyone have the other leaked NATO documents pertaining to China among others? The Pentagon has worked hard to scrub those ones.
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I wonder if anything will come of this Greate Spring Offensive(tm), or if they'll move the dates up/down now that their OPSEC has been fucked
I wonder if the leaker is in GITMO yet
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They don't have much of a choice. They have to launch in late April-Mid May. Any later and the foliage will be in full force with Russia deploying TOS-2s to smoke them out/special forces at night spying on positions to launch more precise artillery. 

Any earlier and the ground will be too muddy for the tanks. Any later and the foliage will be too dense/the river will get too thin before they can build defenses to counter pontoon crossings.
Honest question, what makes you think this is real and not just some idiot printing out made up bullshit? Like is there something in there that screams this is legit?
Not that I don't believe glowniggers aren't retarded enough to fuck up like that but I've seen so much made up faggotry thrown back and forth during this war that I basically never take anything at face value.
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Mostly the fact that NATO didn't immediately respond until a spokesperson accidentally admitted it was true, at which point neurotypical-space internet started to shut it down and delete any and every reference to it on their websites as per FBI/CIA backdoors on social media that have been known about since roughly 18 months before Elon's takeover. Under normal circumstances I wouldn't believe it's true but NATO and America are far too incompetent to try and reverse-Streisand the internet. Them finding a nitpicky topic that normalfags care so much about (KIA) and doctoring images to be pro-Ukrainian in order to distract from the important information on those documents makes me extra sure that, regardless of "version" crap, most non-KIA information on those maps is/was accurate and someone in intelligence is shitting their pants.
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They caught the suspected leaker. 21 year old Mass. Air Nationalguards man in the intelligence wing named Jack Texeria.
>Be 21
>Get SCI clearance
>Hate the MIv
>Leak documents on discord because you wanted to win an argument warthunder style
>Get scapegoated as a white supremacist by the ((( media )))
<Literally help rally normies against the cause you hate
Half of me believes this to be a false flag. The other half believes that people are retarded enough to do this.
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People really are that retarded, he's probably just an average dude though. Some groups of the military are closer to fraternities than to organizations so people can come up with all kinds of excuses to use their secret clearance to win arguments on the internet. There was one anon who kept going on about naval state secrets here on the webring but they've been fairly quiet lately.
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Military intelligence is an oxymoron job, most of them are just as fucking stupid as any infantryman despite their gt scores, only difference is they're smug as fuck and less likely to eat crayons. Half the time the information they gather is utterly useless bullshit too. It's honestly shocking there aren't loads more colossal security breaches. Or maybe there are and they're usually just caught and stifled before the media finds out.
>naval state secrets
Now I'm curious.
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Apparently some glow or collector left a T-90A outside a gas station in Louisiana?
>The folks at Peto’s Travel Center and Casino in Roanoke, Louisiana see all kinds of vehicles pull up, but Tuesday night was different. What ended up in their parking lot is certainly something of a mystery, to say the least.
>Someone left a Russian T-90A tank, which open source intelligence (OSINT) trackers say was captured by Ukraine last fall, on a trailer after the truck hauling it broke down and pulled into this truck stop off U.S. Interstate 10. An employee at Peto's, and the individual who first posted the images on Reddit, shared them with The War Zone.
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It'd be funny if the crew was still alive and well, but had just put themselves into a drunken coma only to wake up in the middle of Louisiana.
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I feel like that would make a great movie.
Sadly, it was just a tank captured by the ukes and bought by the US Army for capabilities testing.
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Looks like the first Bradley spotted in Ukraine? They claim it to be  a M2A2 ODS SA. I wonder if they removed the digital compass and LANDAV systems....
>shitty music
Sorry. Not video creator
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I don't know much about these, why are people acting like this is some kind of war ender? Don't they break down a lot too?
Allegedly Ukrainian troops are "putting down their arms and leaving" over how the Bakhmut soldiers are being treated. Obviously according to the Russians.
Figured out why there is so much contention with Prigozhin. Technically Wagner is illegal. That is, they are allowed to do PMC crap in African shitholes but participation in Ukraine is actually against Russian laws because of how they have integrated into the Russian military. This is at least in part why the Russian leadership is always quiet about their gains.
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>caring about legality in war when your enemies already thoroughly designated you the poopy boogeyman bad goy
Zelensky has allegedly kowtowed to the Chinese behind America's backs. Xi responded by making Zelensky use a Russian translator.
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Sounds like the Ukrainian offensives failed before they began because the Russians bombed their shit in.

Turns out Zelensky just understands Russian better than Ukrainian.
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Got a quick run down? I stopped paying attention to this shit because I got tired of the retarded back and forth about who is ackchually losing totally literal real holocaust numbers in black mutt.
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HistoryLegends did a video discussing why he thinks that the Ukrainians might seriously try an amphibious assault.

Long story short...
>Bakhmut still a shit show
>Russians started making progress towards Chasiv Yar but it's a push-pull and Russians aren't doing so good
>Weather was shit through April so Ukraine couldn't launch their offensive towards Melitopol
>Poland said they can't keep up artillery shell production any more
>America is out for blood and has cut off further aid until Ukraine shows a "return on investment" (Blinken's words not mine)
>Natto seems to think this offensive will put them in a better negotiating position
>Lavrov called natto schizophrenics in response
>Forces are matched about 1:1 on most of the front line
>Ukraine has about 50k salt troops in reserve trained by natto
>Russia has about 100k conscripts in reserve trained by Ivan
>Ten day forecast (as of yesterday) was sunny/overcast weather for the rest of the week so the ground will dry up for tanks
>Ukraine expected to launch a suicide assault on Russian positions to try and cut off supply lines from Donbass to Crimea
>Russians blew up their ammo depots in Pavlograd (Pavlohrad) that were meant for the offensive
>Nobody is really sure what's happening other than a lot of people dying
Current betting pool is at about 10% chance of Ukraine breaking through to Crimea, 20% chance of Russians not only repelling the attack but gaining ground in the process, and 70% chance that it ends with a stalemate with both sides losing a few thousands or tens of thousands of men and no real measurable changes to the front lines after the dust settles in a few weeks.
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Complaining about ROI during a war is the most jewish thing since bagels.
>Ukraine gets Western intelligence for the Kherson offensive
>Bombs the kerch strait bridge
>America claims it was a false flag
>Evidence comes out later it was not and the data was provided by Western intelligence
>America gives Ukraine intelligence in preparation for Melitopol offensive
>Kremlin gets drone striked
>US claims its a false flag
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>hideous mystery meat burgergoy cattle bang on trashcan lids and screech vaguely about nazis at each other while slavs continue to beat the shot out of each other 
>gay toe launders more money and dumps more shitty/unwanted equipment on the Ukrainians while claiming it'll totally holohoax the nootseee rooshins
>totally devastating/important/super notable event is forgotten by everyone outside of Ukraine/Russia in less than two weeks (burgerniggers forget in less than two days)
There, whole war up to this point summarized.
Seems like Lukashenka is ill. Half the news says he has a SARS virus and the other half says he's got blood poisoning from an operation. Ukraine managed to recapture a major supply line into Bakhmut so we'll get to see whether they'll retreat or hold (they don't have much choice and have to hold or else the Russians will be on top of Chasiv Yar).
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>Ukraine managed to recapture a major supply line into Bakhmut
Isn't this a direct result of Wagner being purposely gimped in regards to supplies being withheld because of petty homeland politics?
If they hate the convicts so much why don't they enable them enough to steamroll the Ukrainians and then when the war is over have the entire Wagner group rounded up and executed? It's not like Russians have never done such things before I don't understand the purpose of making the Bakhmut clown show drag on and on for months.
Is there some strategic advantage to this that I'm not seeing or is it really all just petty bickering among leadership positions?
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>Isn't this a direct result of Wagner being purposely gimped in regards to supplies being withheld because of petty homeland politics?
>Is there some strategic advantage to this that I'm not seeing or is it really all just petty bickering among leadership positions?
I want to believe there is, but I'm increasingly believing it's either incompetence or Russia putting on a tough front while secretly falling apart from within. The web of relations is as follows:
>Putin has the ability to declare a war and commit the Russian military proper but he refuses
>Gerasimov is a useful stooge because any failure of Putin's can be blamed on him, but he is too incompetent and too influenced by his opinions of others
>Prigozhin has a bone to pick with Gerasimov and is using his military success for political points (Putin is terrified of military coups which is why he's neutered the military as much as possible despite modernizing it)
>Surovikin is just on the sidelines trying to make the most of a bad situation like middle management, despite being the only general with mixed arms leadership experience
I present the following scenarios:
>Scenario A)
All is going according to plan (more or less) and Russia wants to fail in Bakhmut either for political reasons (cutting off rogue actors like Prigozhin) or for military reasons (continuing to grind down Ukraine and test their armaments against Western weaponry). In this scenario, every time Russia fails the West gets emboldened and sends in more fancy weaponry for the Russians to blow up thus demilitarizing NATO even further in exchange for angry citizens back home. This scenario has a 30% likelihood in my opinion based on the assumption that Russia expects this to turn into WWIII or otherwise plans to invade the baltics with the passing of Lukashenka. Alternatively but in the same framework this could be Putin's way of trying to find his successor since he intends to retire.
>Scenario B)
Flat-out high school drama and incompetence at the leadership level because of differences of opinion/command and infighting between the military and the civilian defense sector. Considering how badly Putin had to yell at his subordinates over helicopter orders a few months back, how all of his top picks for replacing him have failed or become untouchables, and how there's general infighting among leadership and logistics, I put this at a 50% likelihood. With the caveat that all or at least most of these issues are solvable if Russia gets invaded or Gerasimov fails hard enough that it reflects poorly on Putin.
>Scenario C
Russia really did lose the supply war/economic war and they are just putting up a tough front. Different from scenario B, in this scenario Russia really can't keep up the war effort and you are witnessing all the leaders playing the blame game while Vova hides in his cuckshed. I put the likelihood of this at maybe 15% since outside of Western propaganda there just isn't enough evidence.
>What about the other 5%?
There is a lot of political and military intrigue and my dumb brain may just not be able to comprehend the 4D chess moves. I doubt it as the simplest solution is typically the most correct, but there could be a greater goal or some factor I am unaware of that doesn't fit into the above framework.
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>Putin declaring war
I have my suspicions on another reason, political military coup getting caused with war declaration. Remember that the Soviet state was an eternal tug of war between party, military and KGB. I guess the Russian version of that is oligarch, military, FSB/SVR.
Option D) Chinas paying Russia a good enough deal to bleed the west dry. I think <1%.
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I could see a coup potentially, but Gerasimov is too much of a loyalist and he's the only one who would intentionally start one right now.
>China paying Russia
I think this is happening passively, but not actively. Russia and China want a new world order centered around the central Asian continent to combat NATO and are actually fairly classical liberal. I don't trust China, but Russia and India will keep them on a tight leash and China would settle for being left alone if they can't expand.
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Prigozhin seems to be alluding that Ukraine is going on the defensive and plans to pull out of Bakhmut. The report of Prigozhin giving troop positions to Ukraine seems to be a bastardization of a (possibly true) rumor of Prigozhin offering a private corridor for Ukraine to pull out in exchange for a retreat from Bakhmut since Russian generals aren't negotiating with them.
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I think it's more of the "Russia doesn't have a choice" rather than an agreement. The Chinese are still salty about the Treaty of Peking (I think 1860 or 1864), think how salty they are about Hong Kong and x1000 because they lost 1/3 of their land mass to Russia (most of the Russia far east that doesn't freeze as hard and importantly Vladivostok, only Russian Pacific ice free port year round).
Might I offer another suggestion.
Wagner is an intermediary for Russian-Ukranian negotiations. It would be politically unacceptable currently compared to earlier for a direct negotiation of some sort of negotiated withdrawal from the UAF side after the Aztoval (Mariupol?) shitshow (both sides claiming war crimes which the msm always copy pasted the UAF claims as "true and valid fact checked x100 times! Ruzzians murdered literally all civilians out there and raped all the women evacuating!,")
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Some news from the Chinese reporters on the conflict (1/2)

Ukrainian first lady is in... Seoul for some reason (Gibs of course)?
China, Russia and Norks throwing a fit over this:

>Korean media: The Ukrainian president’s wife arrived in South Korea and may express a request for aid to Ukraine.
>According to South Korea's "Seoul News" and other Korean media reports on the 15th, Ukrainian diplomatic sources revealed that Ms. Yelena Zelenskaya, wife of Ukrainian President Zelensky, entered South Korea from Incheon International Airport in the early morning of the 15th local time. According to reports, Zelenskaya may use this visit to South Korea as an opportunity to call or have an interview with South Korean President Yoon Se-yue, expressing her intention to request aid to Ukraine and requesting additional support.
>According to the report, a person from the "The Korea Daily" said, "Ms. Zelenskaya will participate in the 14th Asian Leadership Conference (ALC) hosted at the Shilla Hotel in Seoul on the 17th and deliver a speech at the opening ceremony." It is proposed that Zelenskaya may use this visit to South Korea as an opportunity to have a phone call or interview with Yin Xiyue. In this regard, a senior source in the South Korean presidential office said, "It is difficult to specify whether to meet or call with Ms. Zelenskaya" and "it is currently under discussion." The report interpreted that this statement hinted at the possibility of communication between the two.
>Earlier, Yoon Suk Yeo  (Worst Korea president) said in an interview with Reuters on April 19, "If there is a situation that the international community cannot tolerate, such as any large-scale attacks on civilians, massacres or serious violations of the laws of war, it may be difficult for us to insist on only offering humanitarian or economic assistance ". 
>According to reports, Zelenskaya had also repeatedly requested military and humanitarian assistance in her previous contacts with South Korean media. In an interview with a reporter from South Korean TV station Channel A in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine, in February this year, she said, "I look forward to South Korea's help. We will wait for the dialogue on assistance" and called on South Korea to provide military assistance. In July last year, she said in a written interview with Yonhap News Agency that there was no neutrality in the war, and she hoped that South Koreans would not regard the Ukrainian war as something that had nothing to do with them and avoid the tragedy.
>In response to South Korea’s statement of aid to Ukraine, the vice chairman of the Russian Federal Security Council Medvedev posted on the social platform Telegram on April 19. He first mentioned, “Another person wants to provide assistance to our enemy. South Korean President Yoon Xiyue said that the country In principle, it is ready to provide weapons to the Kiev regime. Not long ago, the South Korean side said with certainty that it completely ruled out the possibility of supplying deadly weapons to Kiev.” Medvedev went on to say, "It's interesting, what will the people of this country (Worst Korea) say when they see the latest Russian weapons appearing in their close neighbor (Best Korea)?"

China announces something a "special envoy" to UKR/RUS+3 (GER,FRA, POL). Nothing per the usual is likely to be done.
>Wang Wenbin, a spokesperson of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, announced at a regular press conference that starting from May 15, Ambassador Li Hui, the special representative of the Chinese government for Eurasian affairs, will visit five countries including Ukraine, Poland, France, Germany and Russia to discuss political solutions. 
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Russians apparently hit a DU munitions site in Khmelnytsky? All of these are "unofficial reports" unless stated
>On the 15th the Russian Ministry of Defense spokesman Konashenkov said yesterday that that the Russian military's long-range air-based and sea-based high-precision weapons targeted the deployment sites of Ukrainian troops and ammunition, weapons and equipment provided by Western countries.  He said that a large ammunition depot of the Ukrainian army in the Khmelnytsky area was destroyed, and in the Nikolayev and Kherson areas. At the same time, on the 13th, a Ukrainian aviation missile arsenal and military equipment fuel depot near Zaporozhye were destroyed.
>On the evening of the 13th, a group of drones from the Russian army attacked a warehouse near the town of Khmelnytsky. According to data from the seismic monitoring system of the European-Mediterranean Seismological Center, a magnitude 3.4 earthquake occurred locally. Sources confirmed that a large number of Western-produced anti-aircraft missiles, including Patriot missiles, are stored in the local No. 649 aviation missile weapons and ammunition depot. In addition to ammunition, the attack also destroyed satellite communication systems, military tablet computers and data encryption systems worth 83 million euros, and a total of 200-220 million euros worth of Western aid materials were blown up.
>Ukrainian portal website Saveecobot on the 15th aid that after a Ukrainian military warehouse hit in Khmelnytsky, which may store depleted uranium bombs aided by the United Kingdom was attacked by the Russian army, the radiation level in the city has increased. According to the website, after the Russian army attacked the Ukrainian army ammunition depot in the city on the 12th, the radiation level in the area rose sharply. The article believes that the Russian army may have attacked the depleted uranium bomb warehouse that the United Kingdom provided to Ukraine. At the same time, an electronics factory where the Ukrainian army stores ammunition locally was also attacked.

Finally the best for last
>Pics related
<Some retards on 4cuck /k/ think China numba wan! Lol not even a 五毛
>PLA female diversity quotes in airbone infantry as propaganda
>Some sort of shitty female "training"
>Doesn't realize the aircraft crew and jumpmaster is all male.
Enjoy equality (pelvic fractures), ladies.
>begging for aid
>from a country that's propped up by another country you've already been begging for aid from
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South Korea is a minor arms dealer and happens to have all the tooling to make artillery rounds (among other things like pontoon bridges) for Ukraine. The issue is obviously shipping it around the entirety of China and India because they're surrounded by unfriendly nations. Right now countries are giving excess munitions to Ukraine and South Korea is selling their stockpiles to those countries to solve shortages. So I guess the Hohols decided to just cut out the middleman and ask directly.
In either case, they're more pissed at the Americans than they are at the Russians and China seems more interested in not making another enemy since they've already got enemies on most of their borders. The Chinese and Russians have by-and-large worked out their differences in favor of hating everyone else.
>Wagner is an intermediary for Russian-Ukrainian negotiations.
Wouldn't surprise me. Would explain this whole mess if it was just theatrics to allow Ukraine to run an "offensive" to tactically retreat and would explain the unarmed Russian conscripts abandoning their posts in the general vicinity.
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Sounds like this farce in Bakhmut is coming to an end now that Wagner can directly attack Ivanivske, so let's place bets on how Russian command snatches defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.
>Prigozhin runs out of ammo again
>Swap in chain of command
>Surprise troop rotations to replace all forces with ducks and chipmunks
>Great Ukrainian Wave Tactics
>Gerasimov just decides to pull all of the troops out on a whim and let Ukraine refortify the city
At this point it's been such a shit show that I can't imagine Russian high command will stand to allow a victory to take place no matter how much they have to bloody their own side to ensure a loss.

There's three peace negotiations trying to get Ukraine to back down. The Pope has taken a hostile stance towards Russia in his "peace negotiations" with Ukraine, Ukraine effectively told the Chinese delegation to jump off a bridge, and the African delegation (primarily South Africa but other African countries joined in) are suggesting they might just back Russia moving forward if Ukraine keeps refusing to compromise on peace with the South African delegation (specifically) trying to deepen military ties with Russia

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How hard is it for you to get that stick out of your ass? You're not funny and this is stupid. You keep the thread rolling then, nigger.

I make posts as I discover information but apparently the mod has a stick up his ass that I don't consolidate everything in one post so I guess he gets no posts instead now.

All me. Get to consolidating since you have an issue with posting information.
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Consecutive posts have been merged (EDIT: As far as my retarded brain can tell)
I don't care if you post information scattered throughout the thread. I care if it is a consecutive post without a proper sage (or reason like 5 file limit/char limit) because it is a good practice and yes, I know the board is slow.
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Well looks like this /k/ is run by a niggerfaggot too.
Why are the only choices ever for hotpockets either "lol do as u pls shit on my board then on my face xaxaxaxax" types or "I'm autistically arvitrary and get upset at totally innocuous actions of my users" types? Fuck man every board I used to love has succumbed to this shit.
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>nobody talking about the power struggle between jewtin and wagner
damn shame
k board without anyone talking in it
did the gay mods really fuck this shit up too
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yeah, BO is a niggerfaggot
so is this just a big nothingburger propelled by the media or an actual threat?
if we're hearing about it, its just a big fucking lie
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ww1 started from a nothinburger as did the sino japanese war as did many others which started from bullshit fabricated claims.so you draw your own conclusions
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both of you are probably correct to an extent
"and then it got worse"
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meant to quote >>659
prigozhin's sperg convoy is going to get cockblocked so hard that i really don't know wtf he was thinking would happen to begin with. i was initially hoping putin would just delete him with a missile, but moving bridges and tearing up roads is arguably a smarter and more cheeky way to deal with this.
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>Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko met with Prigozhin at Putin's request. Lukashenko allegedly brokered an agreement in which Wagner fighters agreed to halt their advance and return to base in exchange for a guarantee of their safety.
aaaand he cucked out. another nothingburger to add to this nothingburger war. sorry for bumping the thread thinking something cool would happen.
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another stupid non happening.
fuck you prigozhin you lying jew
dumb bitch
how do you think this gay war will end if it ever does?
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>>322 (OP) 
Coming up on year three of the "special military operation" that was supposed to be over in two days, the Russians are overdosing on copium and the world is pointing and laughing.  Though the mass graves in places like Bucha aren't as funny.
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not at all how the war is going but still made me lol
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putler literally bombing new york
prigozhin didn't fly so good
and everyone was saying how nice putin was for letting him live after spergout. i'm amazed he lasted this long.
Is Suriyakmaps a reliable source?
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Retty much the most reliable maps imo
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>Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Syrsky officially announced the withdrawal of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the emerging encirclement and the actual surrender of Avdeevka.
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How is Mexico even remotely comparable to Ukraine?
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Why are they announcing that shit in social media?
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Both are countries bordering an adventurist nation with demographic, territorial, industrial, military and HIV/AIDS advantages with which they could engage in a war.
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Because they are getting the media to scream about it to get more money.
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>learn about the tactical retreat in a fucking facebook post
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>polished nails
Seeing that gave me a weird combination of anger sadness and humor. Also I looked on kaotic and couldn't find that video, was she fucked up in battle or did they capture and beat the shit out of her?
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Artillery, I think.
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Seeing a woman in that bloodied state bothers me on an instinctive level. Females have no business being on the frontlines.
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Also posting more videos, including older ones.
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The higher limit lets me post stuff I couldn't before, but it's total rather than per file. Higher quality version of Wagner phonk from the Battle of Bakhmut.
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Wagner ambush, also from Bakhmut, a bit unsettling. + random flyover
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>Females have no business being on the frontlines.
Well... they do use prostitutes to control the soldiers to a degree.
Do you have any videos of the tactical retreat of advika getting shelled by artillary?
I really like the fact that video files don't randomly take ten minutes to load for no fuckin reason here. I've been avoiding webms and mo4s entirely on the cafe for the past year because even short sub-minute videos would take ten minutes to fully load for me.
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>vatniggers have now taken over this /k/
well it was nice while it lasted
can't really blame locusts/russians for destroying everything they come across, it's just their nature.
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Sleepychan People's Republic is now a part of Russian Federation, deal with it.
Oh shut the fuck up you dramatic retard that wasn't the case on the cafe and that isn't the case here. Sorry the reality of the situation indicates your favored specific breed of ugly slav is losing to your disfavored specific breed of ugly slav.
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Fuck I was hoping the cuck/pol/ retards would all have left with the birdnigger delet.
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Any Abrams tanks videos? I have only seen one spotted near avivka and nothing more.
They're making a new containment site and it's planned to be active as soon as cafe as a whole dies. The cafenegroes shouldn't stay too long.

>that wasn't the case on the cafe 
But it was, it was a lot harder to find pro-Ukrainian posts amongst pro-Russian ones there.

>Sorry the reality of the situation indicates your favored specific breed of ugly slav is losing to your disfavored specific breed of ugly slav.
<Implying he's a hohol
Have you slavs even considered that you're too narcissistic to even realize some people out there don't care about taking sides?
Sorry but you sound like 4chan /k/ikes being mad like this.
And you >>923 are just straight up retarded.
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>pro-Ukrainian posts amongst pro-Russian ones there.
I'm pro-Violence.
I didn't call him a hohol dumbass. Figures a cuck/pol/ idiot can't read.
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>cuckchanner whines that this place isn't like his hugbox
Instead of being a bitch, why don't you go back to kikechan where all wrongthink gets deleted.
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Something interesting I found on Telegram. American veteran of Afghan war is fighting alongside Russians. He participated in battle of Avdiivka.
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You're selling this short, anon, some people on cafe/k/ truly believed that BRICS is going to overthrow the US dollar. Even Lazerpig is less biased than that.
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>censored face
>burgernigger flag
>I'm fighting with Russia 
This reeks of spook bullshit but what is the point?
>I really like the fact that video files don't randomly take ten minutes to load for no fuckin reason here.
Yup, this is the silver lining to the turmoil. I hope the influx of new activity doesn't fuck this site's bandwidth

Other than, seems we're getting right back to same old, same old.
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5 people isn't going to ruin the bandwidth. This site had dozens more users than it currently does a year or two ago and personally I'm not going to be posting that often anymore anyway if all that's left are the fags trying to force drama.
Its really incredible, seeing all these towns we have been talking about for a year finally falling one after another.
Whats next? I guess the next defensible positions are really around Zaporozhe. Maybe Czasowiar complex but it will not hold when flanked.
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>Its really incredible, seeing all these towns we have been talking about for a year finally falling one after another.
Well something had to give eventually, quagmires like this almost always result in one side shitting the bed completely at some point. Also when you hear about women old men and teenage boys getting conscripted it's usually a very bad sign.
They even believed Japan should also be allied with its nemesis Russia and China just to spite the US. The board was crazy.
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Sounds to me like someone is bad at shitposting.
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>dude some dumb posts were dumb the board b gay
Just soam your black dick pics fag I know it's you.
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I remember my first day on the internet too..
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I don’t. It's been ages, and I don't even remember if school or home got internet first.
>whole bunch of (1)s popping in to screech nothing interesting
You're the fag that was arguing with himself over the word "nigger" aren't you?
Allocation of peace, security, and stabilization funding
>Building counter-nuclear smuggling capabilities in Ukraine
>Funding: $4 million
>This project from the United States Department of Energy seeks to reduce the threat to the Ukrainian population from stolen or illicitly trafficked nuclear or radiological materials. It will prioritize areas facing imminent threats and security vulnerabilities, including near sensitive nuclear facilities and Ukraine’s larger, most populous cities. Canada’s contribution will help provide radiation detection, communication, patrol equipment, and mobile detection vehicles to the State Emergency Service of Ukraine, as well as related training on equipment operation and maintenance.
>Gender-inclusive demining for sustainable futures in Ukraine
>Funding: $4 million
>This project from the HALO Trust aims to safeguard the lives and livelihoods of Ukrainians, including women and internally displaced persons, by addressing the threat of explosive ordnance present across vast areas of the country. Project activities include conducting non-technical surveys and subsequent manual clearance in targeted communities; providing capacity building to key national stakeholders; and establishing a gender and diversity working group to promote gender-transformative mine action in Ukraine.
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Ukrainian agricultural products damaged for third time at Polish border
>They even believed Japan should also be allied with its nemesis Russia and China just to spite the US
Anon, I...
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>>Gender-inclusive demining for sustainable futures in Ukraine
>>and establishing a gender and diversity working group to promote gender-transformative mine action in Ukraine
Am I reading this wrong or is this the establishment of a genderqueer mine sweeping operation?
I wonder if we'll ever get anything resembling an accurate count of the casualties from this war or if it'll forever be one of those useless "Ukrainian losses 30000 - 30000000000000, Russian losses 30000 - 30000000000000" kind of tallies.
>one guy proving anything about broader nip-chink-ivan cooperation
Come one man.
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>am I reading this right
Seems like it.
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>dude some dumb posts were dumb the board b gay
Now consider that the same board shares the one delusion and keep lying to itself until 2 outsiders come in and break it. I'd rather be posting brown penises rather than being a part of that mass psychosis.

You don't even know how to read the video you posted right? A guy volunteering to fight on his own may not represent the JSDF in anyway.
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I consider one samefagging outsider is making up shit to instigate drama considering a whole bunch of (1)s just organically appeared to agree out of nowhere on an even slower board. Now hop IPs and agree with yourself again faggot.
link to archive.org 
Russians report first Abrams knocked out, video to be published soon. This morning there was first confirmed sighting of Abrams directly on the line of contact, so I guess Ukrainians decided to comit it. Will pubish video as it becomes available and the video itself is legit.
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First clear image of the knocked our Abrams. 
There is also a video but quality is bad, so nothing is clear except that it would appear that detonation occured in the blow out panels, extent of damage unknown, but it appears that there is smoke coming out of fighting compartment. 
Russians claim they knocked it out with RPG, but noting is confiremed.

Also, in video is Abrams from this morning on the line of contact, no idea if its the same tank.
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Fake news, those are AI images, ivan.
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>Fake news, those are AI images, ivan.
>Ukrainian agricultural products damaged for third time at Polish border
Are those piles of grain much of a problem for other trains? Looks like a pain in the ass to cleanup. those piles are going to be sprouting like mad come spring
>I wonder if we'll ever get anything resembling an accurate count of the casualties from this war
In years or decades after the fact, yes I think we'll know. Russian casualties are literally secret information and they have nothing to gain by disclosing them, Zelensky meanwhile is lying like a sack of shit trying to walk a fine line in his messaging between "we urgently need more aid" and "it's fucking over".
US estimates last year were 70000 killed + 140000 wounded hohols (300-400 per day). The 31000 figure is probably some double-speak as in "military personnel" might mean regular/contract armed forces (the "warriors") but not counting the territorial defense or other support personnel.
If true I wonder how willing the Russians are to fight to tow it back to their side.
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I know that there is bounty, but I dont know how high.
Either way I am sure everyone in 10 km radius is plotting how to take it.
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>Transnistria officially wants to join Russia
Not that it really matters currently, but it will be fun if Russians manage to take Odessa.
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If this gets closer to reality I can see Moldova hosting extended-duration NATO exercises.
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No doubt Schumer demanded it all go to save Israel.
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>"putin will invade a NATO nation"
>"china will invade taiwan"
>mfw all that bullshit
I'm amazed normalfags haven't kill all politicians.
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Why doesn't Russia clap all the aid trucks/trains as soon as they cross the Ukraine border? They can strike in western Ukraine, we know that. Hard to imagine the logistics operations are all that sneeky breeky.
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If it's humanitarian aid, then it's unimaginably bad optics. If it's military aid, then NATO soldiers could be killed or missiles could land in NATO territory, sparking escalation.
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Wouldn't it also make it easier to gauge where a potential counterattack is going to come from if you watch where the equipment is flowing?
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>unimaginably bad optics
Resulting in.. strong condemnations and finger wagging? sanctions? frozen assets? a strongly-worded diplomatic note perhaps? Realistically no one's changing their mind about Russia at this point.
>NATO soldiers could be killed
Not possible, there are no NATO soldiers in Ukraine ;^)
>missiles could land in NATO territory
I don't mean shoot right at the border crossing stations, why not take out bridges and railway junctions to deny the aid. Obviously Russians considered it at some point, when Surovikin was in charge it seemed to be the approach, but somehow decided to hold off on targeting infrastructure like that.
>Wouldn't it also make it easier to gauge where a potential counterattack is going to come from if you watch where the equipment is flowing?
Easier than preventing a counterattack in the first place by denying equipment/ammo?
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I don't know man I'm just guessing. If it was really that easy for Russia to target those equipment shipments that far to the west without causing some kind of secondary issue with gaytoe I'm sure they'd have been doing it by now.
What is going to happen in Russia economically once the war is over? Willy OAM was saying that he thinks the ruble will undergo a big decline in strength but did not explain why? Could this create some incentive to draw out the war to buy time to prepare for an economic shake up?
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Russian economy will be all about their ties with China, with Iran and all the -stans being their other leg. Assuming that something fun won't happen in the chink economy, of course. There are the usual concerns about China suddenly deciding that they will colonize Siberia with their rapidly aging population, but I think a more likely problem is that they will try to squeeze Russia dry with their business practices. One more thing to consider if that they ever get serious about Formosa, then they will have to rely on Russia just as strongly as Russia is currently relying on them.
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>Macron is considering sending special forces in Ukraine and is actively discussing it
>Sholtz said the quiet part out loud and confirmed that British and French specialist are actively engaged in targeting and guidance of western supplied long range missiles
So, we closer to ww3 finally or what?
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>Going after Formosa
This is one of those Molotov-Ribbentrop moments, both countries have wildly differing geopolitical intrests and are just currently more interested in fucking over the US/EU instead of each other.
>Realistically no one's changing their mind about Russia at this point.
Blowing up food trucks to civilians looks really bad.
>Not possible, there are no NATO soldiers in Ukraine
What about the people driving or inside the trucks?
Perhaps. It benefits Russia to deplete NATO supplies so if WW3 did break out then it would be a cakewalk once the rest of Europe doesn't have the weaponry to fight.
NATO stockpiles are already pretty depleted and Russia probably doesn't have much interest in doing anything with any cunt further west than Ukraine anyway, the days of land campaigns among major powers like that are gone. Maybe not for good, but as long as nuclear deterrant is a thing all you're going to see is proxy bullshit that stops at the borders of anyone with nukes/allies of anyone with nukes.
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>first video
It's so grainy and blurry I can't see shit.
>second video
How do we know it was a Bradley though it looks more like they mostly got artillery'd after the initial machine gun fire.
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>first video
Relatively old video from 2ch.hk. I don't know a word of Russian, but they seem to have more productive discussions (and way funnier memes) than english imageboards, at least on this topic.
>second video
Ukrainian soldiers in the last days of Avdeeeeeevka under Ukrainian control. No further explanation needed.

This volunteer (sotwe.com/IhateTrenches) said he lived.

The source claims it's a Bradley, and the initial impacts look like autocannon shots.  Also I only see one artillery impact at 1:25. The explosions at 0:59, 1:13 and 1:24 clearly come from suicide drones. Though we don't get the whole story from a short video. Also, remember that Ukrainians try to compensate their shortage of shells with bomber and suicide drones.
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The second Abrams that was reported knocked out few days ago. Russians report they've also knocked out armored recovery vehicle based on Abrams, and there is video of it burning.
>It's so grainy and blurry I can't see shit.
Yeah, I reduced the quality a lot, but I'm not doing that again since it is a pain.
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They are just like us.
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Anyone have a longer video of this salt?
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How will he save ukraine? How is he bew hope for ukraine?
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I don't know what Ukraine would get from it considering how fucking poor Argentina is due to their insanely retarded government. Unless ancap spic magically turns their fortunes around in a year.

Shocking. No armatas for the SMO.
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How Russia’s fake news turned Ukrainian women against their own side
>After an online rumour led villagers to attack an innocent woman they thought was colluding with the enemy, leaders are urging people to scrutinise what they read
>Springtime has come early to Ukraine’s Carpathian Mountains and in the village of Kosmach life is emerging from the cold. Across the wooded slopes, smoke drifts from the pyres of autumn leaf meal uncovered by the melting snow that residents burn to prepare the ground for the growing season.
>The war can feel very distant in this part of Ukraine, where the nearest section of the front line is some 500 miles away. But Kosmach became an unlikely flashpoint last month when a group of roughly 100 locals, nearly all women, blockaded the village after a rumour spread over social media that draft officers were on their way to conscript their husbands and sons into the army.
>Amid the hysteria, a young woman, Ivana Grepiniak, travelling with her six-year-old daughter, was badly injured by the women after they falsely accused her of being in league with the draft officers.
>“They tried to flip over our car, they wanted to hurt us,” said Grepiniak, 24, during an interview in that same car. The chassis bore indentations where the women had smashed it with wooden batons and her scalp had bare patches where they had yanked at her hair.
>On February 6, she and her daughter Zlata, and her friend Inna Tkachuk, 21, drove from their home in Brustury to the neighbouring village of Kosmach to collect some parcels from the post office. As they approached the village, they were stopped by a crowd that quickly became hostile towards them, demanding to know who they were. Video shows how some of the women then began to beat Grepiniak over the head through her car window. She was admitted to hospital with concussion afterwards. Four women have been arrested.
>“My daughter has night terrors, waking up in the middle of the night dreaming that those women are trying to break into our house,” said Grepiniak, whose brother is serving on the front line. “How can it be that I now have to be afraid of both Russians and my neighbours?”
>After two years of war and with a new wave of conscription on the horizon, mobilisation is a contentious topic in Ukraine at the moment. But just as much as the incident in Kosmach may be seen as a violent eruption of some of those simmering apprehensions, so too does it serve as a tangible expression of the subterranean war of information that is being waged, not on the frontlines — but online.
>“[They] directly quoted Russian propaganda from social networks,” the source said, giving the example that the poster had written that “mobilisation is illegal because Ukraine has not declared war on Russia”.
>Viral videos circulated on Telegram, Facebook and Twitter have shown men snatched from the street to be conscripted. However, the SBU source said that these were isolated incidents and that Russian “trolls” were amplifying them to make it appear as though they were happening en masse across the country.
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The title leads the reader to believe that Russia is trying to turn Ukrainian women to its side, but it's really just a piece trying to shame housewives as insane for trying to keep their husbands, who wouldn't be ethnic Ukrainians if they're from Carpathia, from dying due to questionably legal conscription orders issued by a government that is too limp wristed to escalate by formally declaring war.
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First HIMARS I see destroyed
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Probably not gonna turn out anywhere near that way. Also you got a link to a video I can watch?
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Probably. I wonder if Poland and Romania would dare lol
I haven't seen a video online, article with more detail but all in a "he said ..." format:
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>I wonder if Poland and Romania would dare lol
I don't know about Romania but the only reason Poland has shown any solidarity with Ukraine is because they just hate Russia more, if it was Ukraine vs anyone else the Poles would probably gladly fuck them in the ass. They don't exactly have a peaceful history with one another.
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I miss him.
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Normalfags are saying that abrams tank was destroyed by a slav tank.
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Most likey it was disabled by Metis and then finished off by T-72B3.
Crew killed at 0:24
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Ropucha-class Tsezar Kunikov sunk by drones
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I've been out of the loop due to personal shit. Is US now sending fucking abrams to Ukraine??
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source: wikipedia article on abrams
Yes, because they want them to burn, so that they can push for the development of a new indestructible tank.
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thats stupid. instead of sending them to ukraine they should just use the old tanks in place of armor for the new tanks.
tanks on tanks
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Why haven't the muslims use drone botes to sink the carriers parked next to palestine.
>tanks on tanks
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drone pov + another russian perspective
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>development of a new indestructible tank
The classic role of tanks on the battlefield is all but gone, as we're seeing tanks have more or less become self propelled artillery. Large tank formations to break through defensive lines are simply impossible now (nothing but a large juicy target), tank-vs-tank engagements are a thing of the past, cheap drones attacking from above negate the heavy expensive armor. Drones and countermeasures thereto are obviously going to see a lot of investment, and I think MLRS and IFV type systems too, tanks as a platform much less I think.
>Why haven't the muslims use drone botes to sink the carriers parked next to palestine.
Probably because it's not amateur hour over there at carrier group command. Not clear why a landing ship would be out like that at night, alone, no CWIS, apparently blind and oblivious, lit up like a Christmas tree. Probably on a transport/cargo mission with a skeleton crew, black sea fleet command fucked up here.
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That's embarrassing.
>1st one
Did they cut power to some guys house to lure him out so they could conscript him?
>2nd one
Why are they just gaggling about in a close group in the open in broad daylight in what is obviously a gigantic artillery target without so much as even a cursory smokescreen?
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>Did they cut power to some guys house to lure him out so they could conscript him?
Looks like it. Placement of the camera seems oddly convenient, maybe they had people messing with the electrical panel before so they put a camera there.
>2nd one
>just gaggling about in a close group
Probably conscripts, like from that 1st video.
>without so much as even a cursory smokescreen
They're retreating (or trying to), probably without radio contact, can't see the enemy. Yeah easy to shit on this from behind a screen and second guess but how many would do much better IRL.
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>Throughout our history Europe has never had security or prosperity
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Ok whatever, they're doing literally all of the most basic things wrong, especially the grouping too close so yeah I'm going to shit on it because that's a couple dozen deaths that probably could've been partially avoided by simply spreading out. It's one of the first things they teach crayon munching infantry in every military.
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>last one
Videos like these are like a visual representation of trying to form a coherent thought on acid.
Why is there a guy sitting on a horse in the middle of an icy road? Why did the yellow car hit that dude? Why did that dude just go back to standing there apparently completely unphased? Why did the yellow car guys return and team up with slav cowboy and start assaulting the dude they hit and his buddy? What was the point in immediately diverting to attacking the car windows then driving away? Why are the soldiers not doing anything but watching this spectacle? Would this be clarified if I could speak vodka? What the fuck is going on?
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How would they modernize their armed forces if their taxpayers and governments aren't willing to meet NATO spending quotas?
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The government will fall in line when told and the citizenry won't do shit about their taxes going up.
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>a designated defense commissioner for the next mandate
well it's gg for Putin now
>It's one of the first things they teach crayon munching infantry in every military.
>implying they recall anything taught to them
>implying anything was taught to them at all
>implying they even got any crayon rations
>Why did the yellow car hit that dude?
Yellow car guy seems to have some prior beef with the dude he hit and then axed, you can make out bursts of cyka/blyat/pidor. I think the cowboy was also confronting that same guy from the beginning, but in a civil manner.
>Why are the soldiers not doing anything but watching this spectacle?
They probably have no clue what it's all about either. What are they supposed to do, shoot them? Not getting involved in internal village affairs seems like the smart move. they must have received their crayon rations
>What the fuck is going on?
tl;dr: just slavs being slavs.
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>What are they supposed to do, shoot them?
They could just step in and say "chill the fuck out with that axe" but you're right it is probably better (and funnier) to just spectate.
>no crayon rations
A military is truly in dire straits if their soldiers can't even get a light snack.
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>and the citizenry won't do shit about their taxes going up.
>>Throughout our history Europe has never had security or prosperity
It’s not just a random stupidity. It’s a very important point. When people like this say our history, they don’t mean “the subcontinent between the N coast of Scandinavia and N coast of Mediterranean Sea, from Roman Empire times and on” any more than they would mean “reforms of Cleisthenes” when saying our democracy.
This case is a ridiculous near-tautology: “throughout the life of The Great Upas Tree, plants and animals near it never had security or prosperity”. Hey, may as well add “for some utterly enigmatic reason”.
But the fog beyond which things are treated as Time of Myths, not “our history” is always near. Gorbachev talked like there was no history before 1917. Neocons are not radical, yet even they are worse off than that, as Moldbug noted:
> «If you are a neoconservative, on the other hand, your principal problem is that you believe that history started in 1950. Well, okay, this is going slightly too far. You don’t believe that history started in 1950. You believe that politics started in 1950.» 

In other words: can’t wait for kickbacks over some overpriced X-Box on tracks, F-35 style. Sounds about right.

Then again, the situation did change. Now intentionally sacrificing hardware to prolong the beating can actually make sense. Right now, it hinders possible interference in the Gulf.
I mean, the way things go, neocons are not drooling yet, so the Clown World may actually get lucky and break Iran (which is where it’s obviously going). It’s not easy for Russia or China to offer the other side substantial help while avoiding risk of a mess on the sea — which will turn into a game of chicken, then either retreat (which is a big setback in this situation) or risk WW3. Which is the point.
But if the Orange Revolution puppet falls now? The Kremlins are eager to do something more against the senile puppet-masters, and who knows how others will act? Even Turkey may become much less cautious about their traditional sitting on the fence act and help to backstab NATO instead, if only to salvage the reputation with their neighbors.
Oh I see what you're doing now. I'm not going to be a part of this.
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what is even going on here
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It'd be nice to have fucking sound to hear the slav chimping but if I were to guess maybe the driver who is on the ground being slapped and kicked by the cameraman was trying to help a bunch of new conscripts escape and his buddies found out and stopped him?
>>Get America to agree to  
I have to stop you right here. Because you already ran into an unsolvable problem.
Namely, everyone’s favorite illegitimate theocratic oligarchy known colloquially as the Clown World is not agreement capable. The same is true for its main components, especially zombified corpse of a state still formally known as “USA”. They could not fix this even if they wanted to. Even seriously considering this a problem that needs to be solved would require them to change so much that they would not even be the Clown World anymore. That is getting their shit together at this point would require a regime change — literally late-stage USSR situation.
Does it matter how the negotiations would be done — via the failed comedian puppet, or the senile kid-sniffer puppet, or some committee from the kindergarten on LSD, or some supranational comedy central with grand name? Or who would sign the papers? Probably no more than the exact model and color of a phone receiver through which the other High Contracting Party would listen to them. These agreements would still not be worth more than the paper they are written on, just like the agreement about Ukraine staying away from NATO wasn’t. That’s the root of this problem.
The Russian officials not only understand this sufficiently, but have openly stated that in their opinion the power in question is “not agreement capable” (back in 2016 AFAIK).
Thus, anything that starts with «Get America to agree to…» and not immediately followed by «…admit it simply cannot…» is grounded in reality about as well as a plan to escape the madhouse using an imaginary ladder.
> Russia and America duke it out in the international courts
This would at very least require the Kremlins to take these institutions seriously. The very idea of anyone with a shred of Realpolitik sense believing such “international” institutions can be anything but farce or fraud is laughable.
Classical International Law for obvious reasons had no niche for such things. Modern International Law is but a fig leaf for supra-national authority of the New Vatican. But if you submit to the New Vatican, you won’t try to drag it into its own courts, and if not, you cannot recognize legitimacy of its courts outside its own backyard. Thus, their only sane users are the loyalists of the New Vatican looking for bogus legitimacy.
That's obviously the intro to some sort of gachimuchi porn.
Looks like russians are moving on Ugledar again, do you think they can manage capturing it quickly in current position?
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Have they managed to quickly anything so far?
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your mom
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No I called and she said they're still stuck at her mailbox.
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Another HIMARS has been knocked out. Last few days were really roigh for Ukrainans.  They lost 2 Archers, 3 HIMARS with this last one, 2 MIM 104 Patriot lauchers with their crews and radar. Several S300 launchers and yesterday a MIG 29. Not to mention several Abramses, which are more of a blow to morale than anything else.
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Mariupol was supersonic.
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Didn't that take months?
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Two months for a major city with Azovstal, fortress unlike any other place in the world? 
Its really good time.
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I was thinking of blackmutt, they were at it for close to a year there.
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What kind of bomb was that? Looks like a cluster munition but also a pretty sizable boom?
>Two months for a major city with Azovstal
And good part of that Russians were just hanging out waiting for Azov to crawl out of the hole.
>blackmutt, they were at it for close to a year there.
>Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
It was a favorable situation for Russia as Zelensky insisted on pouring forces into a cauldron.
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That's still a long fucking time though is the point, especially for modern warfare. Stalingrad was 5 months and that was considered long as fuck back in those days.
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>That's still a long fucking time though is the point, especially for modern warfare.
So what? Seems like a tradeoff between a) leverage your artillery advantage to grind down the enemy over time OR b) take the city aggressively and quickly and sustain greater losses. Considering that Russia was/is at a numerical disadvantage first option makes more sense. Plus the Azovstal siege was bad PR for Ukraine/Zelensky throughout, so why hurry?
>Stalingrad was 5 months and that was considered long as fuck back in those days.
Siege of Leningrad, Battle of Anzio, even Battle of Britain at about 4 months. Battle of the Atlantic if you would that count that as one. Battle of Stalingrad is one on the longer side yes, I think what distinguishes it is the sustained intensity of the fighting throughout the whole thing.
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Various reports of "Freedom of Russia Legion" making incursions into Russian territory proper toward Kursk/Belgorod.
Few light skirmishes involving border guards, local police and military police so far.
Sounds like mostly light recon/diversion type bullshit for PR as Russia has elections heh coming up in a few days.
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>What kind of bomb was that? Looks like a cluster munition but also a pretty sizable boom?
Russians say its Iskander. Makes sense, they're pretty much the fastest rapid response weapon Russians have on tactical/operational level.

Didnt they get badly mauled this time?  Last time they attempted this they had much more success
I think you're reading way too much into an offhand comment about the war taking longer than anticipated.
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>This is the actual telephone call between Macron and Putin 4 days before the Invasion of Ukraine.
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I find it mildly amusing how /k/ semi-predicted recent Russian glide bomb usage in a bread ~6 years ago.
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Could you elaborate? Considering the amount of autisitc stuff we collectively wrote over the years I'm not sure what you are referring to exactly. I remember that the idea of modernised V-1s were around though. And I also recall gyrocopter drones.
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Where the fuck are my armored trains and bicycle troops with rifle grenades and underslung shotgun (better than giving soldiers a medpack)
I didn't archive but from what I can remember the thread or discussion went something like this:
>anons discuss how to best knock out a modern integrated air defense system
>out of autism, an idea emerges
>take as many Tu-160 or similar supersonic bombers along with any airplane capable of dropping bomb at supersonic speeds
>put glide bombs on them
>fly planes to high altitude towards your target country whose air defense you want to neutralize
>drop glide bombs at >100 km distance from your target
>there are now hundreds if not thousands of glide bombs gliding towards enemy airspace
>each is individually piss easy to intercept, but there is so damn many of them and they do have working warheads
>enemy air defense now has choice between trying to intercept glide bomb swarm and deplete its entire stock of missiles or risk getting carpet bombed by low-cost humanitarian smart munitions
Fast forward to Avdeevka and from what I've read the Russians lately have moved away from using Artillery as their primary offensive weapon against fortified Ukrainian positions and instead do the following:
>convert existing 250-500kg FAB stock to PGM by way of glide bomb, similar to GBU but not reliant on GPS and thus not gay, also cheap and Russia industry produce instead of waste money on child blood sacrifice ritual like American
>input coordinates of Ukrainian fortification and launch planes
>drop bombs from ~50km altitude
>watch as Ukrainian air defense either does nothing or sometimes intercepts 1-2 bombs because they have to ration their missiles for fending off drones, cruise missiles, attack helicopters et al
>Hohol fortress go away, Rusia bear is here to stay
I don't know how they're dealing with satellite jamming though, perhaps Russian inertial navigation systems are breddy gud or the bombs can triangulate their positions from temporary radio beacons set up near the front.
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>I don't know how they're dealing with satellite jamming though
Hohos jamming Russian satellites, since when?

In other news, UAF has been sending missiles and drones at Belgorod for the last few days non-stop as well as some probing attacks onto Russian territory proper without any success it seems. They can't shell Donetsk as easily after losing Avdeevka, needed a new target I guess.
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>new target
Well there was this Krautniggertician who proposed carrying da war into Russia or something, good to see Ukrainians are still defending western values.
>Reports of French troops landing in Romania and being loaded into trucks heading for Ukraine 
>The head of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, Sergei Naryshkin, said that Macron had decided to send a contingent to Ukraine, Odessa.
>First contingent is eyeballed at around 2000 men

All of them are unconfirmed sources, only kinda 'credibe' one is Sergei, but credible in a sense of coming from official source and nothing else. Definitive proof is yet to be seen so its probably best to remain skeptical.
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Back to WW1.
There's zero chance of that happening without someone immediately spilling the beans. France Germany or the UK sending a couple thousand troops anywhere is a pretty big deal, much less to go into a warzone that NATO's main enemy is currently directly involved with. I don't care if it's to actually openly fight the Russians, or to serve as "advisors", either some dumbass grunt would leak info or someone's wife/family would.
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The news is very fresh so far so we might get leaks in near future if theres any credibility to the claims

Also, I made a mistake, the alleged troops didnt land in Romania but Bulgaria. Everything else stands.
Orlivka fell
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Never heard of her, but I wish her the best and hope she gets well soon.
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Plain «We have always been at war with Oceania», not even bothering to spin it, yes.
Simplification is a result of evolution optimizing away the mostly-useless parts, just like it happens with parasitic worms etc. But from the cadre point of view, it’s “two deadly poisons, one cup”.

Or even try?
> >Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
> It was a favorable situation for Russia as Zelensky insisted on pouring forces into a cauldron.
While NATO is willing to lose more hardware and reliable “advisors” in a proxy war it’s not going to win.
So on the strategical level, no obvious reason for haste, if this will not definitely reduce the net costs. At very least, it would make sense to wait until fresh drone and anti-drone hardware and tactics get properly field-tested against an actual adversary, not only to avoid surprises, but any experience dealing with NATO hardware and training will remain relevant (it’s not like there was a stockpile of this stuff back from USSR time).
Now there may be a reason to wrap it up, but who knows how the Kremlins see this.
Politically, it’s not clear yet how the resulting peace will look like. Poland still swings back and forth on its fence. And who ever knows what really goes on in Turkey.
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…and even on the operational level, yes.
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>but any experience dealing with NATO hardware and training will remain relevant
I wonder if US is having regrets about giving HIMARS to Ukraine. The system has proven to be effective and Russia so far is having a tough time neutralizing the launchers (even if they can intercept the majority of the rockets). If Ukraine had 100-300 HIMARS operating it might have shifted things in their favor on a strategic level but instead it gave Russians an opportunity to develop more adequate ways to counteract these relatively new systems (and without suffering cardinal damage from long range rockets).
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>If Ukraine had 100-300 HIMARS operating it might have shifted things in their favor on a strategic level
Not really that amount of launchers would require huge manpower reserves and in the end the vehicles (which most often so far get replaced if they get clapped) are not as important as the ridiculous amount of rockets that were sent for use. Like, if they had a milion launchers the amount of rockets that are avaiable for use would be the same.
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No, the West is not to blame for Russia’s war in Ukraine. Why this myth – and others – are so difficult to dispe
>It is no surprise the second anniversary of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war against Ukraine generated so much commentary. What is surprising, though, is that Kremlin propaganda remains so prevalent in what purports to be analysis.
>This week, the ABC was forced to defend a documentary it aired on the conflict, which quoted Russian soldiers justifying the country’s invasion. Ukraine’s ambassador to Australia said it repeated “blatant lies” coming from the Kremlin.
>But this is not the only example. Among the other Russian assertions frequently repeated by commentators are that the West is at fault for the war and the root cause lies in “NATO expansion”. Proponents of this line recycle the tired narrative that the West does not understand Russia’s world view and has failed to accommodate its “legitimate security interests”.
>There is no misunderstanding Putin’s threat-infused nostalgia for “the legacy of the Yalta and Potsdam conferences” of 1945, either. This was when the US, UK and Soviet Union carved up the territories of the vanquished following the second world war and demarcated their respective spheres of influence, denying tens of millions of people any say in their own future.
>Accusing the West of sowing democracy on Russia’s doorstep today ignores the reality that, freed from 50 years of Moscow’s repressive domination, the countries of eastern Europe unequivocally saw their future security and prosperity as part of the European Union and NATO.
>While they have been understandably silent on the matter since February 2022, some of Russia’s leading foreign and defence policy thinkers – none of them Kremlin opponents – previously dismissed the idea that “NATO expansion” represented a threat to Russian security.
>Defence analyst Alexander Khramchikhin argued in the authoritative Military Industrial Courier in October 2021 that claims NATO was preparing to attack Russia were “shameful”. If NATO was preparing for war with Russia, he added, it was doing so defensively.
>Similarly, Andrei Kortunov, formerly the influential head of the Russian International Affairs Council, argued on the now-shuttered Carnegie Moscow office website in January 2021,
>former Soviet republics have been desperately storming the gates of the Euro-Atlantic security structures, and the West, fully aware that accepting these new member states would weaken NATO, not strengthen it, had to respond to this pressure.
>Putin’s own policies have also substantially worsened Russia’s strategic circumstances, not least by driving Finland and Sweden to pursue NATO membership. Moreover, NATO’s recent policies (including generally declining military expenditure from 1990–2014) in no way pointed to hostile intent towards Russia.
>Putin’s war aims were not limited
>In a similar vein, some believe Putin’s aims in Ukraine are limited to securing disarmament and neutrality, as well as a special status for Crimea and the eastern region of Donbas. Advocates of this line implicitly condone Putin’s use of military force to unilaterally recast post-second world war borders.
>It is clear serious planning and intelligence failures misled Putin and his narrow cohort of advisers into thinking Ukraine would fold in days. A history autodidact, Putin presumably had no interest in occupying western Ukraine, knowing this traditionally had been Catholic Polish and Lithuanian territory and never part of the Orthodox Slavic lands of Great Russia.
>We can reasonably surmise Putin’s goal was the swift capture of Kyiv, the political or physical elimination of President Volodymyr Zelensky, and the occupation of Ukraine east of the Dnipro River (and potentially the Black Sea coastline, including Odesa, founded by Putin’s heroine, Catherine the Great).
>Thus, Putin would replicate the “gathering of the lands” of one of his distant predecessors, Tsar Ivan III, and consign what was left of western Ukraine to the eternal financial responsibility of Europe.
>The revised map of Ukraine that former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev introduced on state television earlier this month makes clear this intent.
>Confident assertions, whether by the Kremlin or outside analysts, that Russia’s economy has withstood Western sanctions are also premature.
>Sanctions work over the long term, and Russia’s much-touted growth rates mainly reflect its increased investment in the military and defence sectors. Credible commentators believe Russia’s economy shows clear signs of overheating. Only time will tell.
>What is true, though, is some countries are conniving with Russia to exploit loopholes and circumvent sanctions. Furthermore, many analysts are silent on the fact that Russia – a permanent member of the UN Security Council – is flouting the very sanctions it helped impose on North Korea by sourcing weapons and military material from Pyongyang.
>Aiding Ukraine is not a distraction
>Another myth being propagated in the West is the contention that aiding Ukraine diminishes US capacity to deter China in the Indo-Pacific.
>It is not a zero-sum game. It is hard to see how unsettling allies and partners by dumping democracies – including one fighting for the very principles upon which the US was founded – would be a deterrent to China.
>Neither Russia nor China has allies as we understand the term. Both see alliances as directed against someone or something, rather than being mutually reinforcing arrangements underpinned by common beliefs and values.
>Both Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping seek to undermine confidence in US leadership and commitment through falsehoods and propaganda. We must be vigilant and forthrightly contest these efforts, regardless of the competing demands on governments and the distractions of our often fractious democracies.
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>the conversation
>tagline is "academic rigor, journalistic flair"
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>100-300 HIMARS operating
presumably the number of rockets and launchers supplied was in proportion. I doubt manpower would be the limit, HIMARS only has a crew of 3 (and targeting is handled mostly by NATO anyway).
Sounds like a bunch of drivel, didn't read.
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Russians hit Ukrainian energy infrastructure especially hard last night. Several electricity generating facilities have been knocked out by destroying their machine rooms where generators are housed, making it impossible to restore them in near future.
you cannot have bunch of people that were trying to escape country just earlier operate advanced weaponry it just is not how it works lol
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Im old so excuse me if I sound clueless but it feels like this Ukraine war has had shit footage compated to the good ol Liveleak era during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Those US guys and the jihadists were carrying actual cameras into battle, filming all kinds of shit and posting it to the internet. Youd think it eould be better now but I really dont see much and I have no idea where anything is posted now that Liveleak and Bestgore are gone. Where is everything? Are soldiers not filming their experiences like before? Mass leftist censorship strikes again?
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>>1293 brother you are not allowed cellphone because enemy can easily pinpoint you simply by having one on you, not to mention why would Ukranian government that does and is proud of webm related allow mobile phones?
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>cell phones
Most of the shit filmed in Iraq/Afghanistan was through go pros or body cameras, they put the kibosh on soldiers carrying phones on patrol and the sandniggers mostly used old school digital camcorders and later on go pros when those became easier to get.
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So why isnt that happening now? Everything i see is a drone. Is no one on the ground filming shit or is this censorship of the internet?
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A lot of Ukraine footage is from FPV drones - so minimum quality cameras (because the whole thing is one-time-use) + video is streamed wirelessly + possibly with ECM interference = potato quality. The expensive recon drones have nice cameras and optics but they're filming from miles away (if they want to keep filming for long) with massive zoom and no matter how good the optics are atmosphere will distort the image at such distance.
There's been a few videos, first one that comes to mind is the Russian btfo'ing a couple Ukrainians in a foxhole then doing a somersault, but overall yeah there's been more of a lack of them.
I don't know for sure but some of it probably has to do with opsec, some probably has to do with this being an actual war instead of some retarded occupation where more people are dying of suicide after coming home than from battle thus meaning the guys on the ground are far less interested in playing with unnecessary equipment. Also no small amount of it has to do with propaganda, neither side is looking particularly good here for various reasons and having a bunch of on the ground footage showing exactly how much of a retarded clusterfuck it all is would probably do more harm than good. But I'm just speculating here I'm not gonna pretend I know.
And yes some of it is censorship.
Everything important is on Telegram and Xitter, but you have to make accounts for both. You can even find good footage on Jewtube.
There's some terror attack going on in Moscow right now. It's at a concert or something. At least 40 dead.
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Probably Ukropiums.
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Why Putin doesn't just nuke Kiev, I dont know.
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Remember... no Russian.
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>inb4 false flag to push for mobilization

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It is almost certainly Ukropium. They are subhuman. Ukrainians are like niggers. They send their women to the USA to be in front of niggers at niggerball draft and then to fuck niggers in Jewish porn. Vermin.
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Interesting timing after Russia's recent bombing
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>one of them is holding a camera
Hope it gets realeased.
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It was the jews, isn't?
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I work at one of the best intelligence agencies in the world and it's been proven that the palestinians are responsible. Spread this news everywhere.
"Muh ISIS" is proof that its the USA. USA used ISIS against Saddam, Assad. ISIS has been dormant for years and suddenly white guys shooting up an opera is ISIS? Bullshit.
Could anyone redpill me on the history between pissrael and isis?
I know it has been said many times on /pol/ that isis was supported by the yids but i never looked into it. It has always been very suspicious that they never attacked there. Thanks.
>false flag
Haven't the Ukrainians have been threatening to do shit in Russia for awhile now?
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Call me crazy, but something doesn't quite add up about a group of Islamic extremists looking at the current geopolitical situation and deciding "death to the enemies of America!"
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"Western" mass media all blame ISIS

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>ruskies are busy with ukraine, us, and associated attacks
>old enough to remember Chechnya shit
>russia full of Christians
It's not far flung to see some Islamic faithful want to pull it off, and succeed. Timing is suspicious. And it is not as if glow in the darks are opposed to working with certain types if it advances goals against Russia.
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one of the shooters dropped his wallet and it says he's palestinian and a member of ISIS
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Is this a real question or are you just merely pretending to have brain damage?
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>Putin called Western statements about the possibility of terrorist attacks in Russia blackmail
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>The Russian president noted the intention to intimidate and destabilize the Russian society
>MOSCOW, March 19. /Russian President Vladimir Putin called the statements used in the West about the possibility of terrorist attacks in Russia a blatant blackmail.

>At the FSB board, the head of state recalled "recent provocative statements by a number of official Western structures about the possibility of terrorist attacks in Russia." "All this resembles outright blackmail and the intention to intimidate and destabilize our society," Putin said.
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Well the jews celebrate Purim today.
Interesting cohencidence
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Well, I guess Russia have no other choice than to nuke Israel Palestine into oblivion.
The ukranians are already busy supporting the RDK and others, sabotaging russian infrastructure and bombing russia with their drones.
Massacring civilians like this would overwhelmingly turn public opinion against them, and ukraine needs the sympathy of the western world so they can keep funding their war effort and alleviate their manpower, munition and equipment shortages
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>the seething losers who blow up bridges jus5 to kill a young family, assassinate Dugin's daughter, blow up cafes, and bomb dams care about public opinion
You are pretty stupid. Ukropiums have a blank check on public opinion because of ZOG daddy. It was absolutely a joint Ukraine, ZOGmerican op. 
>America will blow up Nordstream and plunge Europe into a depression but cares about opera noght in Moscow
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>Timing is suspicious.
It always is. In fact, it would be odd if the timing made sense raising suspicion anyway.
>In the land of NPCs the brain damaged tard is king.
Or something like that.
>The ukranians are already busy supporting the RDK and others, sabotaging russian infrastructure and bombing russia with their drones.
With results virtually nil so far. You're right it doesn't make sense for Ukraine to pull something like this directly, however if this leads Russia to open a second war-on-terror in not-Ukraine then that's of benefit to hohols so I wouldn't rule out their involvement either.
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>The Moscow theater hostage crisis 2.0
Since history repeats itself, I take it Putin will once again move to a harsher stance on the Che- I mean Ukrainians?
Dima's update about the attack.
>Be russian
>Get shot
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And they say russians do not have freedom.
Gas yourself.
Every day a Ukrainian dies is a good day. Subhuman.
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Ok, sure, I can see that after giving myself a lobotomy, neatly pulls the whole plot together.
says who? fsb-brainwashed z-tard
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Why are you so mad at ukranians? Have they killed your family or something?
Oh boy the cuck/pol/ retard is back.
You. Me. Your mom.

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you're so mysterious
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One of the suspects
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I hope they were the perpetrators
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BAZA reported at 9 am that the car with the terrorists was stopped in the Bryansk region, in the locality of Tioplyy. It is much closer to Belarus, 43 km from the border, than to Ukraine (118 km).
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>Crying like a little bitch after killing more than a hundred civilians.
>The Investigative Committee of Russia (ICR) cannot identify the officer (who participated in the arrest of one of the terrorist suspects) who cut off the ear of one of the terrorists, since they “were all wearing balaclavas” and when the officers asked about this detail, they all take responsibility . The Investigative Committee will close the case because no progress can be made
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if USA tells you something you believe the opposite
I have a feeling like this strike will lead to something much bigger. Like, nobody expected Ukraine will turn like this during Maidan, I get the same feel from this massacre as from it.
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>/k/ is for 'news' because 'militaria' 
Why do people even think it's real? They were getting bombed in the early 2000s and there's what, not enough footage? Come on now. They prolly made a deal for that lithium mine 15 years ago but haven't let the corporate whores know about it yet, they being the CIA and such.
What the fuck is your problem? Do you hate white people?
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It's some retarded faggot from the Ukraine threads on cuck/pol/, they do this shit where they play into one side or the other as obnoxiously as possible in order to fuck up any actual discussion of the war. He probably got banned and is riding it out here.
> I wonder if US is having regrets about giving HIMARS to Ukraine.
> The system has proven to be effective and Russia so far is having a tough time neutralizing the launchers (even if they can intercept the majority of the rockets).
Missiles with accurate guidance system show good performance, sure. But GPS guided munitions like GMLRS by definition can be not only intercepted, but jammed, and they were. Not so good against ready defenses.
The launcher itself is yet another hybrid, not outstanding in either role. The niche for these is giving small units more capabilities. On the scale where both capabilities could be present as multiple units each, this only reduces cost efficiency. In other words, typically made in «a modestly scaled high-end boutique» (as Schryver put it) for goat-herder safari.
When artillery is dispersed and used for solo shoot-and-scoot missions, the other guys will have a tough time neutralizing even towed mortars. That’s nothing special. But when used like this, anything this side of tacnukes is reduced to nuisance.
When the rest of fighting outside small hot spots (which are thoroughly watched) consists of everyone just taking potshots, too, it’s adequate, but way overpriced. Jamming and air defenses neutralize most lone rockets anyway. Saturation is the opposite of disperse potshots, and more expensive still.
In a war big enough for tank divisions rolling on? Thinly dispersed HIMARS would only be good as bait. Massed HIMARS would be yet another decent MLRS or yet another decent strike missile system, but more expensive to replace than a plain equivalent.

Now, showing off teh Storm Shadow was more foolish.
It had some success, sure. According to Gurulev, this happened because Russian anti-air systems had relatively low intercept rate against it without being pre-optimized, i.e. had no known Storm Shadow target profile and treated it as Generic Missile. Obviously, it’s no longer true. Likewise, one general got clapped, the rest will pay more attention to any new threats.
But the big picture is the same: delusions, screwing around and slow self-declawing.

>> 1363
Two puppets, same puppet show. Why even care which one?
It won't be because ZOG media will say it's a war of aggression instead of a war on terror or "liberation" like burgers did Afghan and Iraq.

The biggest issue for me is that if ISIS wasn't a glow op, they probably would be blowing up zionists and their backers like the burgerland. Seems counterproductive for Islam and muh Jihad, the fact that the Iran can support Palastine despite the Shia-Sunni split shows ISIS isn't very good at reaching the whole global caliphate goal.
At this point it's safe to say ISIS is fully implicated in the Moscow attack, regardless of who may [not] be the true mastermind. Is this going to have implications in Syria/Israel/Hamas/Gaza? Remind me again is ISIS frens with Hamas or Israel or neither?
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ISIS is 100% an israel/US backed organization.
ISIS has repeatedly attacked other pisslamist groups including palis while never even hinting at ever harming yids despite having a significant presence within a couple hours of driving distance of israel at their absolute peak. They've made enemies out of pretty much anyone that doesn't have "Islamic State" in their jihad group's name. There has also been multiple instances of US/israeli weapon and ammo caches being found in ISIS bases. Then there's the fact they're suddenly making a big attention grabbing resurgence right around the time the yids are having a really bad time with their global reputation as well as the pali genocide taking far longer than they anticipated. They are most certainly not hostile to israel at the very least, the only question is if the Crocus attack was directly ordered by western glowniggers to add mroe of a burden to Russia, or if it was just their golem acting of its own accord.
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Considering the US had forewarning of the approaching attack, they were at the very least kept in the loop over what IS was going to do.
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>kept in the loop
Well they most certainly have moles in any jihadist groups they sponsor, but that doesn't mean they know exactly when or where a specific cell is going to attack. It's easy for these types of operations to get out of control sooner or later due specifically to their decentralized nature, it's not like they can just message each other on facebook they try to obfuscate their communications for any outside observers as much as possible. A small handful of dudes could be ordered to go shoot up some civilians, or they could just decide to do it all on their own as long as the intended effect lines up with what the higher ups want, then there's also middlemen who might decide to start telling squads of insurgents what to do.
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That's a shitload of videos from the Ukrianian side at least, thanks, a lot of them are from awhile back that I never saw posted anywhere too.
Do the Russians have a lockdown on videos or do they not allow their soldiers to use go pros? Because I don't see nearly as many from them and most of the ones I have seen were Wagner vids or shitty drone vids. I know there's censorship from the west in that regard but there's plenty of ways around such things it just seems lopsided.
I missed the mossow attack. Why does shit always happen when I am on vacation?  it's like when I am here nothing much happens
in other news Oleh Ivashchenko has been appointed as new head of Foreign Intelligence Service for Ukraine. Oleksiy Danilov has been removed
>be Russian
>take control of lands historically belonging to Muslims and all the Muslims inside
>fought multiple wars to reinforce their dominance in the same place
>surprised when they have to deal with Muslims' antics
<blames the US
It never gets old.
And here he is again.
>be Russian
>ban sodomite propaganda
>be ugaynian
>proudly hoist the LGBTQBIPOC+ flag in the air as you heroically fight for jewish control of your nation
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Gopniks also started deporting mudslimes after the recent terror attack. Meanwhile, the West refuses to deport even a single immigrant after he rapes or murders someone.
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Assuming that's true, the Ugaynians made the better choice. They chose to support people who will commit suicide over those who want to kill their fellow citizens.

>Gopniks also started deporting mudslimes after the recent terror attack
I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt but...

>Meanwhile, the West refuses to deport even a single immigrant after he rapes or murders someone.
You outed yourself as a schizo.
Deportations of migrants rise to more than 142,000 under Biden
>U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement deported more than 142,000 immigrants in fiscal year 2023, nearly double the number from the year before
Guess you got banned from cuck/pol/ again?
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VVS just lost a SU-25 over Crimea. Crimeian officials claim pilot ejected due to unknown reason while Ukraine is claiming a shootdown via friendly fire.
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Why wouldn't they just take credit for that?
Guess who got butthurt and blames a boogeyman when he's proven wrong.
>not even talking about the war
>trying hard to start irrelevant shitflinging about trannies
Yep, it's a cuck/pol/ rapefugee. Guess it doesn't matter though apparently the faggot vol is letting you shit this thread up with your annoying misdirections just like tengunigger let you.
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Russians testing new drone interceptors.
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Just like sharpen the rotors
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what a shithole
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Wouldn't that fuck with the aerodynamics?
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Of the rotors, aren't they rounded for lift reasons?
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Mental illness.
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No not really
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Or perhaps maybe something like this configuration.
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They say that the slav are deporting muslims.
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>censored right before impact
What? Why? Is there some secret behind the explosive they're using?
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Jewtube hates violence against robots.
A sharp leading edge on wings/rotor blades will also create lift just as well but only at zero angle of attack, with a rounded leading edge the airflow can stays laminar when the airplane is pitching up while a wing with a sharp edge will stall sooner and more abruptly (bad).
Anyway, back to the original question >>1440, even if the drone had razor sharp rotor blades they'll probably still get tangled up especially closer to the root of propeller where it's moving slower. Plus netting also wraps around the body of the drone and extra weight will throw it off and snag, sharp propellers or not.
>What? Why?
Probably to make it look more interesting/intriguing. At around 1:08 you can see the target is largely intact after the explosion, not clear if the drone would do much if the target wasn't already disabled.

In other news, they might change from a "Special Military Operation" to "Counter-Terrorist Operation" kek
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>In other news, they might change from a "Special Military Operation" to "Counter-Terrorist Operation" kek
Does this mean we will get Wagner and Azov skins in Counterstrike?
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Maybe it wasn't very effective and it's just an evolved form of the Syrian opposition video editing technique of cutting to a bearded guy talking right after impact because the ATGM hit the berm and tank is fine but there was so much quality snackbarring that they were compelled to release the footage anyways.
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>Does this mean we will get Wagner and Azov skins in Counterstrike?
Let's not get ahead of ourselves, first they'll need to find the weapons of mass destruction.
>deal with Russia's ongoing aggression...that gets worse with every passing day uh
>territorial integrity not mentioned
I'd say this is laying groundwork for Ukraine surrendering and ceding territory, otherwise Article 5 gets invoked before the ink is dry and nukes start to fly shortly after.
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>I'd say this is laying groundwork for Ukraine surrendering and ceding territory
That'll never happen while Zelensky is alive and in power. He would rogue and torpedo any kind of deal that has Ukraine ceding anything. Even Crimea which they already lost in 2014.
>otherwise Article 5 gets invoked before the ink is dry and nukes start to fly shortly after.
Probably related to this there was one senator that responded that a NATO that includes Ukraine should not include the US.
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>That'll never happen while Zelensky is alive and in power.
That's a problem the US can solve easily, innit? Basically Ukraine is never getting into NATO unless they give up any claim to the territory Russia has annexed. Politicians on all sides understand this, of course, and the whole thing may just be theater.
That said I still think Blinken not saying here 'territorial integrity of Ukraine' is significant.
Russians have reached the outskirts of Chasiv Yar.
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At the pace the slavs are doing the special operations, how many years will it take for them to cover Ukraine?
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These kind of wars usually go on until one side suddenly and unexpectedly collapses, usually because either the troops or the ground or the leadership at the very top realizes that they cannot win. So we just don't know, maybe it will be over by the end of the month, or maybe it will take a few years.
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Buhanka-chan has her own monument at Saint Petersburg.
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>Putin commented on the motivations behind the terror attack during a trade union federation congress on Thursday, saying that Russia could “hardly be an object of attack by Islamic fundamentalists”, as Russia demonstrated “a unique example of interfaith and interethnic unity”.
A traitor to his people, but I already knew this, and now a spineless cuck. A double traitor.
Anon he's jewish
Anon, you do realize that Russia has a sizeable Muslim minority ever since Ivan the Terrible took Kazan and Astrakhan all the way back in 14th century and then even more after the conquest of Caucasus in 19th century, right? He's not saying anything incorrect there.
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>no buhanka car to drive around.
>Sucking off Putin, who is now sucking off sand niggers, who just gunned down hundreds of defenseless White people.
You're pathetic. This whole board is pathetic. Make sure to be extra butthurt responding to this post, and throw in something about "Ukropiums" for good measure.
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>throw in something about "Ukropiums" for good measure
I'd like to believe that even the hohols are not quite that level of retarded yet.
And yet you keep coming here when cuck/pol/ bans you.
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He should be thanking every God in recorded human history for coming across those guys. Having only an ear cut was a blessing of colossal proportions. Harder men would have left them just barely alive, and of course completely unrecognizable and permanently mutilated.
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>slavic animosity towards one another only exists because of jews
Except Mogolians conquered them long before kikes specifically because slav royalty were constantly backstabbing and selling one another out. You can blame many things on kikes, but not Eastern Europe and Russia being eternal cunts to one another. The yids in your post are taking advantage of obvious fracture points and pretending they're geniuses for something even a stupid chimpanzee can do.
Thats like half their population
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What the fuck is that?
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A tent-tank?
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T-72 / T-90 with anti-FPV shield
Looks very comfy.
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>traitor to his people
The Muslims?
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Even if he does blame the muslims privately there's no way he's going to tear his country apart internally right now when he knows the the clearest and most threatening enemy is the US, UK, and NATO. No shit he's going to downplay the muslim terror angle and play up the funded by the west angle.
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I hope this is just a sketch and he's not actually in any serious danger. If he is I hope he makes it home safely.
> there's no way he's going to tear his country apart internally right now
Like forcefully departing people away from their homeland? >>1465 
He's actually escalating the situation.
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The  Russians are selling oil at $75 per barrel .that's $15 higher then the $60 price cap. b-but m-my sanctions
What even can you do in this situation? They were still muslims at the end of the day so regardless of Ukrainian involvement there is going to be fracture points developing more and more.
This is not related to this conflict at all, yo are just shitflingin for the sake of it.

Fuck knows. Originally I bet on 2 years at the start of the conflict but Russia has been playing it incredibly safe after withdrawal from northern front. Russia retains initiative, it has chosen this slow as shit meatgrinder and sticks with it, it would change strats if it stopped being beneficial to them.  Why I say so? Russia still has vast operational reserves which are uncommited to the fight, there is nothing preventing russia from reopening northern front.
Ukrainians cannot attack (great summer offensive), they cannot defend (Avdievka, Bahmut) so they have no choice but to either run away, surrender or die, as that chink saying goes. Ukrainians have no reasonable war goals with the current being most easilly explained as
>Kill as many russians and incur as much damage as possible (even though we are losing much more in the exchange).
It is not sustainapble or reasonable. There is no miracle coming their way, NATO has hardly raised military production, funding is stuck in burger hut but even if it was unleashed it cannot be used to purchae crotical supplies such as arty shells since there is just not enough of them on the market.
Ukrainians have performed well, even though their entire leadership is made out of brainless tratorous jews. But at this point, with losses they suffered, well, 0i think last time a country that suffered so much losses and still managed to win was Rome during punic wars.
The best testament to the heroic resilience of Ukrainian soldiers is the fact that we still can ask "how much longer?" where by all estimates they should have already collapsed.
This is like a broken record but, basically, shit is fucked, was fucked, will be even worse and there is nothing that can be done. Shoigu said at the start of the year that they are planning for conflict to drag into 2025. Spring-summer 2025 is a save estimate as to when the entire ukrainian state collapses.
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>Russia retains initiative, it has chosen this slow as shit meatgrinder and sticks with it, it would change strats if it stopped being beneficial to them.
I'm still of the opinion that Russia has decided to this course because they realized, some time after the operation started, that they weren't actually fighting Ukraine but were in fact fighting NATO and were doing so in a way that allows them to grind away at NATO weapons and equipment in a conventional war that doesn't risk escalating to Article 5 response and subsequently a nuclear war. 
>Spring-summer 2025 is a save estimate as to when the entire ukrainian state collapses.
If they make it that long.
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>Russia retains initiative, it has chosen this slow as shit meatgrinder and sticks with it
I think they are going slow as fuck, because they want Europa and USA to keep pouring trillions of monopoly money and equipment in Ukraine and the cynic in me is saying that they want to war to go for a long time so that they can experiment with all their toys and make new toys.
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That can backfire though. I know the Ukrainian numbers are skewed to hell but Russia has lost a fuckload of personnel, so what's to stop some western glowniggers from immediately stirring up another shitfest elsewhere on their fuckhuge borders? The fact ISIS suddenly and totally organically reappears to fling turds at America's number one boogeyman makes me think Russia will have attempts to goad it into a Middle Eastern conniption of some sort in the very near future.
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It can backfire, yes. But everything about international politics is gambling, and Russia believes they have the winning hand.
They are, in short, betting that NATO/the US do not have the supplies, finances, or the willpower to fund another Ukraine. Which to be fair, they don't. If they had, the west would already have entered war production, which they not only haven't, they have (by their own studies) proven they will not be able to do until at least 2029 (more realistically 2035).
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Is this true?
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Probably. Where's this from btw?
What are the estimates for Russian losses? Ukraine I think will round out to about 500,000 KIA with another 1,000,000 or more being considered WIA with life changing injuries.
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>they have (by their own studies) proven they will not be able to do until at least 2029 (more realistically 2035)
So the Iran shit is probably just more bluster then too barring some totally organic happening that makes shitloads of young burgers feel the patriot tism and sign up overnight to go die thousands of miles away from home for people that hate them.
>sourceless red text
Youtube probably wouldn't warn people like that, they'd just demonetize videos or entire channels with extremely vague "it violated policy" excuses like they've already been doing for years now.
Later on they posted some close-up videos, and so Turtle-chan got HIMARS'd. Because taking out a rustiy T-72 with a metal tent is how they should use those missiles. Anyway, what is more interesting that this is the closest thing to a proof-of-concept for a turretless tank in this moment, and it seems to have worked. Assault guns might be back on the menu after all.
I have honestly lost track, even 500k dead ukrops you mention was floated around a year ago.
We just dont know.
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why are they like this
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This is not related to this conflict at all
Cry some more, your ilk has been talking about the attack for 3 weeks only to become pissed when proven wrong for the dozenth time.
>why do slavs slav?
It's a mystery anon.
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>message must be unique.
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>my post in response to this was deleted
>among other posts I've made on /v/
>sturgeon was the one who did it
lol now I'm 100% sure he's the fag that keeps getting butthurt at me on /b/. Nice fuckin admin you have here, throwing a sitewide banfest because he can't handle banter.
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Slavs are the Mexicans of Europe.
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I don't recall spics being that belligerently patriotic, they just fly their shit colors but stop hard when the questions start flying
It's been like this for years
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>I don't recall spics being that belligerently patriotic
They are in areas where they are the majority.
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 Power cuts in Kharkiv.
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Ukrainian women pretending to pregnant to get out of  mobilization
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I don't think that is going to work all that well.
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>pretending to pregnant
Just fucking get pregnant. You don't even have to raise the kid if you don't want to. Just put them up for adoption. 9 months of a big belly is way better than having your skull cavity excavated just so Zelensky can get rich and LARP as an actual leader.
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They can't because all the men were sent to the frontlines :^)

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