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So, Trump is absolutely losing the war and out of options. Let's have a recap of recent events:

>Trump fled Middle East while abandoning Air Force 1, hiding in catering truck to secretly board another plane and letting everyone else serve as decoy as he feared Iran would shoot down his plane
>Trump flailing for control, claims US controls Strait of Hormuz, which no one believes
>US still not doing shit militarily because not enough munitions or military support for doomed US venture
>Iran considering attacking bases in Europe if fighting continues, including bases in Bulgaria, Cyprus, Romania and Germany
>Iran and Oman reached a new agreement for Strait of Hormuz
>Trump tried to claim responsibility, but Iran denied this and delayed implementation of agreement just to make a point
>Iran says even with agreement, ending the strait's closure is contingent on the US actually implementing MoU terms
>Trump offered to lift Iran sanctions and end the blockade if Iran reopens the Strait of Hormuz, doesn't charge fees, and ends the activities of its proxies and Iran unsurprisingly isn't taking the deal
>Iran also released a list of vessels noncompliant with Iran's closure of the Strait of Hormuz, stating that they will be open to bans, fines, or seizure in the Strait of Hormuz in the future and states that vessels engaging with them in Ship-to-Ship transfers will also be included in the list (this is like secondary sanctions but for ships). Interestingly, most ships are either UAE or Qatari.
>USS Lincoln in dire state. Carrier has been there too long and cannot get adequate resupply because Iran blew up its logistics.
>USS Lincoln now to be replaced by another aircraft carrier after issues with USS Lincoln went publicly viral.
>MSNBC claims Hegseth hid from Trump that key US logistics base had been blown up from Iran. Hegseth calls it a lie, and also claims USS Lincoln doesn't have logistics problems.
>Word has it other US ships in the area, including the other carrier USS George H W Bush, are just as badly off, if not worse
>Troop discontent with war is high
>New Operation Economic Fury promises most severe sanctions for greater damage, but unlikely to achieve gains because Iran was already under harsh sanctions and has spent the past 40 years hardening its economy to not be trade-reliant precisely as insurance against this sort of thing. Also Russia and China will obviously not play ball on these sanctions and Iran's government is fully capable of neglecting the suffering of its people.
>New sanctions include blocking academic exchanges (which tbh usually resulted in educated Iranians leaving Iran) and sport competitions (reminiscent of FIFA bullshit), so basically useless pettiness
>UAE pissed over previous attacks, declares active trade embargo vs Iran. UAE has generally circumvented trade embargoes for Iran as a valuable trade corridor before, buying embargoed western goods that were otherwise difficult to obtain and selling them to Iran, so this is close to a declaration of war against Iran.
>Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces declare dissolution, merge into official Syrian army while Syria promises to respect Kurdish human rights and heritage. The SDF used to be backed by the USA, but the USA began backing the new Syrian government instead. Once again, the USA used the Kurds and then fucked them over.
>New Syrian government is probably a bit stronger for this. Remains to be seen what Iran will do about Syria, but Syrian foreign minister Asaad Al-Shaibani rejected Pakistani offer to mediate with Iran, leaving the door open for future arrangements if the "necessary conditions" are there
>Yemeni Houthis at active war with Saudi Arabia, which is fighting back with assistance from Turkey and Pakistan as part of their new accords
>Houthis hit SA's Jazan Oil Refinery and hit SA hard in general. SA fraying from attacks.
>Houthis vs SA is basically a test of the new Mecca accords that SA has negotiated. If SA fails, then the regional security architecture must negotiate with and include Iran.
>Syria is openly contemplating joining this Mecca accords regional framework too.
>Syria still attacked by Israel in attack Iran strongly condemns
>Meanwhile, Hezbollah obviously not disarming as the official Lebanese government and Israeli state have agreed upon
>Israel still performing attacks in Lebanon, to no one's surprise, though not at the same intensity as before
>Prime minister of Iraqi Kurdistan's office was targeted by what appeared to be 2 Iranian Hadid-110 fast stealth drones, but Iran's foreign minister Araghchi called it a false flag attack and said Iran happy protect Iraqi Kurdistan and appreciates their contributions to border security
>Trump halted joint exercise with South Korea because of very good talks with North Korea (which North Korea denies having) and because Trump is mad SK wouldn't back him in Iran war, further deteriorating US's standing in SEA.
>USA puts out up to $10 million bounties for information on IRGC officials, showing total lack of coordination because Majid Khademi was already killed in a US-Israeli strike on April 6th
>Israel transitions control of west bank from military to civil police in attempt to further its attempted annexation of the west bank
>Israel fighting EU bans on Israeli settler goods and attempted EU-wide sanctions against said goods
>Iran said to have done billions of USD in damage to US intelligence sites in the middle east
>Iran declares all damaged weapon systems and military production to have been rebuilt
>Iran, already a BRICS member, eyeing joining the BRICS New Development Bank
>Iran also stated it discovered an additional 200 billion cubic metres of natural gas in the Fars province
>There are now rumors from Iran that nuclear weapons development are now actively being developed

So, lots of shit is happening around the middle east, but mostly Trump trying even harder sanctions to strangle Iran economically in a game of chicken where Iran's government won't yield because it's still an existential war for them and he still lacks good military options. Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia and others are playing a game to strengthen themselves and sideline Iran from the region's new security architecture while Iran is in a proxy war against Saudi Arabia.

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>>20295 (OP) 
>video
>mfw
Good shit.
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>>20295 (OP) 
That first image indicates Vietnam levels of breakdown in morale. Imagine what the troops would do if there were also Vietnam levels of casualties.
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>>20295 (OP) 
>>Prime minister of Iraqi Kurdistan's office was targeted by what appeared to be 2 Iranian Hadid-110 fast stealth drones, but Iran's foreign minister Araghchi called it a false flag attack and said Iran happy protect Iraqi Kurdistan and appreciates their contributions to border security
Lemme rephrase that. I knew I got too tired somewhere in the midst of writing this. Iran responded that Iran is happy with Iraqi Kurdistan's government and cited past incidents of protecting them against the likes of ISIS and that they appreciate Iraqi Kurdistan's contributions to border security, and called the attacks a false flag.

Most likely it is a false flag too, because there have been many unsuccessful attempts by the USA and Israel to provoke the Kurds to war with Iran and they have been known to make replicas of Iranian drones and use them in false flag attacks in an attempt to provoke other countries to go to war with Iran. Iran, for its part, only has one major demand for Iraqi Kurdistan (which it honestly does not treat well), which is that Iraqi Kurdistan not attack nor support attacks upon Iran. The threat of a Kurdish uprising and ground war against Iran is a serious one and could cause proper mayhem by blending into Iran's existing diaspora and basically doing shittons of guerilla activities. For the Trump administration, it'd represent a desperately needed chance to put Iran on the back foot. For the Kurds, well, there's the whole Kurdish liberation thing going on, since there is also systemic discrimination against Kurds in Iran (although socially they are better treated than in other countries), but for the most part it represents an obvious opportunity to get used and then fucked over by the USA while they die fighting and still don't get what they were fighting for in the first place. That's been a very recurring theme when Kurds pick fights with US support, so they're pretty jaded about this being a good idea.

>>20296
I'm glad you appreciated that video. I wasted waaay too much fucking time compressing it over and over again from the original 490MB 1920x1080 resolution until I found a compression that reached 27MB without being fullblown 480p.

>>20297
That'll happen if Trump gets stupid enough to try a land war, which is honestly suicide and he knows it, which is why he hasn't done it yet. So far there are likely severely underreported rates of fatalities from Iranian missile attacks though and the rest are basically running around and hiding like rats in cellars for months on end, so it's going to be bad for morale alright. Anywhere US troops lodge on a remotely long-term basis gets bombed by Iran and the same goes for US logistics. A lot of vendors are scared of getting attacked for selling to US troops also. So the living condition is bad and deteriorating to worse. No surprise the morale is shit, especially when this wasn't their war to begin with but Israel's.
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>>20297
Why do the figures at 7:06 look like cattle or sand animals?
>>20295 (OP) 
>Top OP/10
GG, Strelok.
>>20298
>I wasted waaay too much fucking time compressing it over and over again from the original 490MB 1920x1080 resolution until I found a compression that reached 27MB without being fullblown 480p.
You did a good job, Strelok. Deffo the best encode I've seen of this on any IB.
>>20298
>original 490MB 1920x1080
can you upload the original? I want to save it.
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>>20298
I really can't imagine the kurds being dumb enough to play ball after decades of fighting at the USs behest only to be repeatedly betrayed. It's so far only worsened their position in the middle east. The promises coming out of the Syrian government are frankly farcical as the country is fractured to shit and likely to break back down into civil war between the various ethnic groups and religious extremes anyway. Not even the Turkish puppet is going to hold this together any longer than people get more fed up with him over more war.
>>20302
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It has inconsistent download speed so I guess shitter is trying to prevent me from downloading it.
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>>20304
Arigato.
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I have a fucked up, dystopian theory. 

The Pentagon has admitted that 750 personnel have been "wounded" and tgat the number of deaths is nowhere near the 500+ speculated by the IRGC some months back. This is of course horseshit, and we're well aware that the US is going to hide the actual numbers among training accidents, heart attacks, and the like. What gets me about this is the relatively quiet (to me at least, night be wrong) level if discontent about the war. Usually something this absurd gets someone like Sindy Sheehan on TV  about every 10 minutes to talk about the horror of losing their child asd whether the war is worth it, right?

Then it hit me: what if the DoD has servers and personnel set up specifically to train an AI dupe of fallen soldiers to interact with their friends and family over social media? That way they can announce the serviceman's death at their leisure, with the family none the wiser. They have no story to tell a camera, and no outrage to fan, because to them, "Jason" just messaged them saying he's okay.

The more I think about this, th less implausible and excusable it gets.
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>>20306
>Then it hit me: what if the DoD has servers and personnel set up specifically to train an AI dupe of fallen soldiers to interact with their friends and family over social media? That way they can announce the serviceman's death at their leisure, with the family none the wiser. They have no story to tell a camera, and no outrage to fan, because to them, "Jason" just messaged them saying he's okay.
It is called project lazurus, created by facebook/meta during the pandemic, if you used social media and  have any record in whatsapp or discord or telegram, you likely have digital twin stuck in a server somewhere in US or Russia. 
Play Crosscode, is a pretty good game.
>>20307
Why wouldn't you go to one of the whistleblower sites instead of shitposting about it on /pol/ ?

BTW, I can confirm that so-called 'digital twins' are and have been a thing for quite a while now. In hollyjew, insurance for completion bonds often require the primary stars to have undergone a full digital body scan at high resolution before the (highly expensive) live shooting days production begins. The face in particular gets a lot of attention. If they really wanted to, they could continue making Terminator movies in perpetuity for example. Granted, these are expensive efforts intended to shield ((( investors ))) for famous projects, but this was also being done 20+yrs ago too. Today its much cheaper to create 'good enough' digital doubles en masse.
>t. actually did such project work for such high-fidelity digital doubles.
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>>20307
I wonder how my AI doppelganger would be, giving that all my messages are autistic as fuck.
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>>20307
Necromancy is evil and should be banned regardless of the subject's consent.
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>>20310
No.
>>20306
>Then it hit me: what if the DoD has servers and personnel set up specifically to train an AI dupe of fallen soldiers to interact with their friends and family over social media? That way they can announce the serviceman's death at their leisure, with the family none the wiser. They have no story to tell a camera, and no outrage to fan, because to them, "Jason" just messaged them saying he's okay.
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>The more I think about this, th less implausible and excusable it gets.
That's retarded. First and foremost, it'll be found out if they do a thing like that. You know you close friends and family. As the saying goes, "you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time" and that gets astronomically harder for impersonating close friends, family members, lovers, etc. It will be found out. Moreover, this kind of dishonoring of dead servicemembers will have enormous negative repercussions for military morale and hit the public airwaves as a giant scandal inflicting terrible PR since this is kind of shit that makes for hot gossip too. It's basically a fast-ticking time bomb that will be a giant disaster for both the politicians and the military. So no, I do not believe they are doing this.

More likely they are slowing down communications, covering up the time and cause of death, and asking military families to keep it quiet about deaths since this is an active war situation. Most military families have some loyalty and don't like to invite the internet and/or media to put their own family's grief under a microscope anyway so this is not a difficult ask. Then you add the fact that the current media companies are whores for the establishment and you can successfully diminish the public reach of stories like these and make it hard enough for people to run the numbers on actual fatalities. Remember that companies like Google and Facebook prefer to point you to corporate slop than actual public sentiment even when they aren't actively putting a finger on the scale to dictate the outreach of a story. Of course, it still gets out that the official numbers are bogus and much more people have died, but we still don't know how bad the real numbers are.
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>>20312
>So no, I do not believe they are doing this.
After the circus show of this latest war, and the clear insanity of the Blumpf in Chief, you really hold that no irrational choices will be made by the US military & politicians?

>Of course, it still gets out that the official numbers are bogus and much more people have died, but we still don't know how bad the real numbers are.
These are all true. In fact I'd go so far to say that when they think they'll "get away with it", they will never release information detrimental to them. And, since the kikes are apparently running the show from inside the Pentagon now, you can expect an avalanche of typical kike tricks to follow in every domain of their operations.
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>>20312
People forget that U.S. administrations are openly stuffed with HRT-ridden men in high heels, actual filmed sodomite anal sex videos going on in the senate room, tranny strippers on the White House lawn, always engaged in handing prized military secrets to a foreign brown country on the opposite side of the planet which itself actively engages in public taxpayer blood magic rituals multiple times per year to bring about the apocalypse and end of the world, every presidential candidate's family married into said (((  blood cult religion and race  ))), soon to be legally merged with said state in the next few months, and so many other things that match the level of insanity seen in other countries. Only 38% of the country are Americans (are of European blood).

I don't know why you think a world government comprised of judaized and negrified spics and jeet browns with the twilight weapons and technology borrowed from a superior race of beings would not attempt such a thing. Maintain the illusion? Absolutely not. Try and fail anyways, despite all the sober and obvious risks you pointed out? Absolutely yes.
>>20313
>After the circus show of this latest war, and the clear insanity of the Blumpf in Chief, you really hold that no irrational choices will be made by the US military & politicians?
Irrational choices are definitely being made, but there is a difference between making an irrational, unproductive choice and fellating a shotgun you know is going to go off just for the brief moment of pleasure it affords you to be such a colossal faggot. This is next-level obviously self-destructive behavior for an extremely mediocre high and it's the kind of self-destructive behavior that requires a lot of very smart and competent men to implement, all of whom will know better than to do this and that there are better approaches to handling the same problem.

You don't rush for the worst and most difficult solution. The bad solutions tend to get picked because they're easy, because their downsides are hard to see for your crew, or because you expect the downsides to be someone else's problem or manageable issues anyway. Also ego can make people want to double down on a bad situation in the hopes of turning it around. But you don't sit there and go "this will obviously be a colossal disaster, let's do it" and try to force it to happen even as everyone tells you how badly it's going to go for you and how it won't actually solve the problem you're trying to solve and will if anything make the problem bigger when this comes to light in addition to giving you tons of new problems.

>>20315
There's a difference between doing fucked up and retarded shit behind closed doors and willfully speedrunning career and social suicide on the world's biggest stage.

Everyone knows Washington is full of freaks. But the politicians avoid doing freaky shit they expect they can't hide.
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>>20315
>Only 38% of the country are Americans (are of European blood).
grim af.  :/
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>>20313
>you really hold that no irrational choices will be made by the US military & politicians?
Nice strawman. Let's recall when this very same admin tried to pass off mspaint.exe edits as real photos. I think we can safely rule out any sophisticated applications of AI. inb4 4D chess
>>20315
>actual filmed sodomite anal sex videos going on in the senate room
Where else are they supposed to do it? Ball room isn't finished yet.
>>20316
>"this will obviously be a colossal disaster, let's do it" and try to force it to happen
The evangelicals are literally praying for an armageddon. I hate how it so nearly explains the middle east happenings.
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>>20319
>The evangelicals are literally praying for an armageddon. I hate how it so nearly explains the middle east happenings.
Yes, but they want armageddon. This won't help achieve that.
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>>20320
Would you please go and explain it to them once and for all?
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>>20321
Okay, now we're mixing subjects. I'm saying that impersonating dead service members won't help their objectives by their standards.

If the issue is a theological conflict on how the apocalypse cannot be achieved by insane interventionism in the middle east, then that's a way more messed up conflict. If that's your concern, you should kick that ball to other devout Christians to talk sense into the doomsday cultists, because this kind of advocacy is heresy to many a devout Christian and they are far better equipped and motivated for the sort of theological debate needed to talk another Christian out of this shit.
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>>20322
I don't want to derail this thread or your posts, as I already made this post here:
>>20315
Do you want me to explain it from a jewish, fundamentalist christian, and non-denominational perspective? They're extremely close, but all three differ. I can even offer a majority-accurate muslim answer. However, I don't want to do these things if it's too off-topic and derails you or the other anons.
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>>20323
NTA. Well, I'm personally interested in hearing your take on the distinction between the fundamentalist Christian, and non-denominational perspective. Maybe on /k/anteen?
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>>20324
Alright, I'll see what I can do. I should probably say zionist vs non-zionist, which is part of dispensationalist vs non-dispensationalist, of which Christian Fundamentalism (the movement, which is a good approximation for many different denominations and churches which fall under that particular movement within North America and territories belonging to the U.S. / its soldiers stationed there)  is part of dispensationalist.
>>20295 (OP) 
>>USS Lincoln now to be replaced by another aircraft carrier after issues with USS Lincoln went publicly viral.
Understatement. 6 sailors tried to jump overboard even though there's fucking nowhere to swim to. They basically tried to commit suicide to escape the ship.
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>>20327
Didn't a bunch of them get killed trying to stab a CENTCOM guy that went to tell them to suck it up too?
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>>20328
Not confirmed by a reputable source. And the mainstream media picked up on the overboard jumping, someone else would have talked about it if it actually happened.
>US Patriots missiles in Europe are reported to be lacking beyond critical condition.
>US reported to be bringing back its diplomats to embassies and consulates in the middle east, suggesting that the USA is going to be winding down the war with Iran rather than intensifying it.
>Oman is now cooperating with Iran more significantly to stop ships from slipping through Iran's closure of the Strait of Hormuz.
>At least one Egyptian bank (Banque Misr)'s UAE branch seem to be helping Iran avoid US sanctions. The US is now sanctioning this bank's UAE branch and shutting it off from global banking, likely strengthening the case for BRICS as an alternative to western banking.
>Iranian supreme leader puts out statement saying that domestic production will have to be the primary answer to the Iranian people's needs, but ruled out trade isolationism.
>Iraq interested in mediating between Iran and the USA.
>Israeli settlers got drunk on their exceptionalist mindset and attacked an NBC News crew plus a Palestinian woman. Netanyahu actually publicly condemned this, because it was too much of a PR shitshow.
>Greece and Israel seem to be about to sign a $3.4 billion defense deal
>The entire Gaza strip has now run out of cancer medication
>United Nations Relief and Works Agency raided by Israel. Itamar Ben-Gvir participated in this raid, saying "There is no place for the agency in Jerusalem and Israel." The international community condemned the attack, including the UN Secretary-General himself (who condemns it "in the strongest terms," states the United Nations premises are "inviolable and immune from any form of interference," and states this is a violation of international law), the EU, and the League of Arab States.
>Israel's foreign ministry responded "Your facts are wrong. You support an organization that is a breeding ground for terrorism, and you prefer to attack Israel with baseless accusations instead of acting for the benefit of Arab children in Kafr Akab. This is a disgrace." Said ministry also claimed that according to the USAID Office of Inspector General, more than 100 UNRWA employees participated in the October 7 Hamas attack. (Incidentally, USAID has been described as a "graduate school for the CIA" by the USAID Administrator John Gilligan himself in the 80s. Elon Musk's DOGE recently gutted USAID very heavily though.)
>Israel then raided UNRWA again for the second time in roughly a week
>Turkey to host trilateral Mecca accords meeting on Monday
>Meanwhile Iran, China, and Russia's presidents are expected in Kyrgyzstan on Monday for a two-day summit

>>20329
Not a trustworthy source. Iranian state media is biased as shit against the USS Lincoln and wishes they were dead or gone. There's confirmation of sailors trying to jump overboard, but no confirmation of people dying on the Lincoln.

Press TV is an unreliable source for a reason, unless you are using them to report on the Iranian government's public statements.
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>>20347
Believing Iranian state propaganda on a subject they have reason to be extremely biased about in total absence of any corroborating evidence of their take is a choice, sure, but it's a choice for imbeciles.
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>>20346
>Israeli settlers got drunk on their exceptionalist mindset and attacked an NBC News crew plus a Palestinian woman
heh, kike hubris in action yet again. link/media?
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>>20348
Is that really any different than believing kike media & puppets, with equivalent corroboration? For example: how many times has Iran been defeated and the strait been opened since March, exactly? Yet the number of boomer americans fully believe it.
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Apparently we're back to hot.
US targeted Larak Island. Propaganda says because missiles were going to be used to put mines back into the Strait.
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>>20349
Here's an article with video footage. Looks like they weren't able to record it all since, you know, they were being attacked.
>“They jumped out, beat us, then jumped back in the car,” said NBC News international correspondent Matt Bradley, who was hit twice in the arm and later treated at a nearby clinic.
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-nbc-news-team-attacked-masked-israeli-settlers-rcna595024

>>20350
>Other people are being stupid, why shouldn't I be stupid too?
I'd like to think the answer to this question goes without saying.

And honestly those narratives have been discrediting themselves pretty effectively.

>>20351
Iran has vowed retaliation. The real question is what the hell the Trump administration was hoping to achieve with that. I guess he's just trying to fuck up Iran's control of the Strait of Hormuz or otherwise keep up pressure in the hopes that Iran will slowly come to a deal. Maybe if a big enough opportunity arrives he'll try something. Or maybe Iran's retaliation will make Trump butthurt enough to do something rash. Who knows.
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>>20353
Strawman. There's practically no difference between propagandizing by the state media of Iran, and the same by the kike media of the west. Only notable difference is that the kike have been entrenched at it far longer, but that hardly lends it more credibility. Quite the opposite in fact as decades of lies & debacles have shown.

One things quite certain: the insane & murderous yidsrael & jewsa began this moronic war based on entirely false pretenses. May all their lies & genocides return back upon their own heads.
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>>20359
This seems likely why the jews ordered trump to return to bombing. Seems like the Iranians have begun re-laying mines in the strait again. Iran firmly establishing such control over the waterway is an existential threat to the petro dollar.
>>20348
You've clearly never served, as there's no such thing as a happy serviceman. However, being deployed for nearly double the average, and on half rations, would make any serviceman even less happy. Considering today's US military being majority 80iq niggers and spics, it would make someone question what they're fighting for to begin with. That's not propaganda, its the fruits of a >100iq mind to deduce.
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Trump is losing it. He's made a tweet with an AI video about blowing up Kharg Island, which has not happened yet. Somewhere out there is an Air Force pilot who wants to choke Donald Trump for giving Iran clear warning of where they'll attack. Of course, it's also possible the US is going to strike elsewhere first. Trump loves being "unpredictable."

>>20354
I have no idea what you're smoking but reread my post because I'm pretty sure that what I said and what you think I said are two different things.

>>20361
There's a huge difference between "morale is shit" and "7 people got themselves killed in a brawl." Could it be true? Sure. But I sure ain't gonna take Press TV's word for it, and neither should any intelligent person.
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>>20364
Ad hominem. I didn't stutter, and I don't think you did either. You're trying to prop up Western propagandists at the expense of Iranian ones. Of the two, I certainly trust the latter more at this stage.

>Trump loves being "unpredictable."
Not really. He's just batshit insane at this point, the kikes have him wound up so tight.
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>>20365
>Of the two, I certainly trust the latter [Iranian propagandists] more at this stage.
what a time to be alive
>>20365
>Ad hominem. I didn't stutter, and I don't think you did either. You're trying to prop up Western propagandists at the expense of Iranian ones. Of the two, I certainly trust the latter more at this stage.
Red herring. No true scotsman. Denying the antecedent. Psychogenetic fallacy. I can namedrop off-the-mark fallacies too.

Look, schizo, you're off your meds. Since you insist on being retarded I'll have to spoonfeed you. First, you fucking idiot, I did not present a strawman. Nor did I state that western propaganda is somehow higher value than Iranian propaganda. What I did state was that just because others are being stupid by believing western propaganda claims when they're biased and there's no evidence doesn't mean you should be similarly stupid by believing Iranian propaganda claims when they're also biased and without evidence. The fact that you chose to be that stupid anyway and double down on it by misreading what I was saying isn't indicating good things about your intelligence.

Second, my post you just responded to was not an ad hominem, you fucking retard. This post you called "ad hominem" was me saying nothing more than "you misread my post." I'm not sure what mental gymnastics you had to perform to conclude from that "this is an ad hominem" but you really need to take your meds and learn what logical fallacies are (hint: they're not idle catchphrases to say "you're wrong"). Even me insulting you now (which I have only started doing in this post because I started feeling that being polite about your delusional claims was not the healthy thing to do) is not actually an ad hominem, because an ad hominem argument is me saying "you are retarded and because you are retarded, you are wrong." Instead, I am presenting actual reasoning for why you're wrong, and adding the insult that you are retarded, in which case it's just an insult, not ad hominem, and it is an insult you have earned through the lapses in your reasoning. But maybe you aren't bright enough to tell the difference between logical premises, conclusions, and side remarks. Wouldn't surprise me.

>Not really. He's just batshit insane at this point, the kikes have him wound up so tight.
 I think Trump's own megalomaniacal ego and his fear of losing the midterms has gotten to him now. But it's true enough that Israel egging him on to take this war, through the likes of Lindsey Graham, is what got him in this shitshow. He originally wanted to just leave Iran be. Now he has a giant clusterfuck on his hands and no good way out. I don't think Israel can puppet him that well at this stage either. Trump is the kind of person who'd sooner believe he's the boss of Israel than accept the Israeli lobby as his boss because he's egomaniacal like that and he's already learned the hard way during this war that Israel's interests and his interests don't align all that well. That's why he had to tell them to stay the fuck out of it during the post-MoU warfare, even though they wanted to join in, because he knew he'd have a bigger and more difficult to control problem for it.
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>>20367
<Look, schizo, you're off your meds. 
Probably the most anti-semitic thing I've read all week, honestly.
>>20367
>no you! day
Ehh, so? That doesn't make the accusations of them against you any less true, nor does your deflection attempt just now.

The simple fact is that the evidence is practically-speaking all in favor of the Iranians at this point. That leaves little for the kikes and their shabbos golems.

And I'm quite sure as this moronic adventurism returns back on their own heads, the jewSA will regret ever falling in with the yids in the first place.

Can't come soon enough.
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What are you retards arguing about?
>>20379
Iran has its sword, but it also has its shield.
May god bless them.
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>>20382
Kek. Sign tappers were right, the post. Die for israel to pay off your usury-based financial slavery, goyim.
>>20367
Look at this assmad llm response. I hope Iran reaches you, moishe.
>>20382
Or as an alternate proposal Israel could just fight its own wars by itself.
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>>20382
THE ABSOLUTELY DESPERATE STATE OF AMERIKIKES!! 
My sides have landed on the moon and are now headed to Uranus, the emperump is eagerly being given the command by Israel to jiggle his tiny little dicklet like squishy car keys. 
Pulling this leverage shit is their BREAD AND BUTTER, it's what our entire system is built on, the parasites have pressed the "goy button" on young people being born into debt, and the kikes are finally offering a realistic way out for burgers, but 'only' at the cost of their lives.

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST spoiler that disgusting lard bitch,

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>>20382
At this point the Americans would probably be better off burning their own banking institutions down; if the choice came down from up on high that it was either death for Israel to relieve your debt or eternal servitude servicing said debt I know what I'd pick.
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Waitaminute....they want 500k-1m conscripts, and to "absolve" an average debt of $40k? 

Sooo... between ~$20 and $40 billion gets covered by Uncle Sam, meaning that it's added to the existing National Debty and enslaving the government further to bullshit financial institutions. BUT, it's ALSO a vety nearly trivial amount compared to our annual GDP and retarded spending elsewhere, so this debt could have been covered "just 'cuz" under some kind of lottery system or something? Hell, Bezos could have bought it out for shits and giggles without breaking stride.

Im very curious whether they realize that every other American is going to ask who put them in debt, all at the same time.
>>20388
40e9$ is only 0.1% of the current national debt ($40e12), so just a rounding error.
>Im very curious whether they realize that every other American is going to ask who put them in debt, all at the same time.
If they could do math they would be very upset, but I'm not hopeful.
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>>20388
Guys this is some retarded kike's opinion piece on a newspaper not a public policy announcement, let's not overblow it.
To actually do that would mean shafting too many American jews for the benefit of the Israeli jews, so I doubt that will ever go forward.
On other topic, do Americans know non adjustable loans/mortgages pay for themselves if there's inflation? If they wait a while monetary erosion will free them up from debt on its own. So debt leverage weakens everyday.
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Could have upped the quality a bit, but it's usable.
>>20391
Boldly assumes people don't have ongoing expenses that they aren't funding with credit.
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>>20392
Pure kino, do you have a source? I want to download it at full resolution.
I guess this is the yemenis fighting the saudis mercs?
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Is anyone else thinking there might be another 9/11 on, say, 9/11? Normally, I might think itd be too "on the nose," but its been 25 years this year and all the major players aee openly competing in psychotic retardation instead of statecraft.

>>20393
>"The Americans should start thinking about stockpiling gasoline and fuel. Dark months await the American economy",
Holy shit. When your enemies publicly provide the sound advice that your government won't.
>>20397
>sound advice
>stockpiling gasoline
Unless you have a large underground tank - no.
>>20369
There's no deflection in there, but I realize I'm clearly arguing with an idiot. You evidently subscribe to "these people are liars, so I am going to believe whatever the fuck is on an opposite side of them" thinking, as dumb as that is.

>>20397
Not after Joe Kent's public resignation as Director of the National Counter Terrorism Center where he clearly stated Iran posed no imminent threat to the USA. (And a week before the Iran war started Kash Patel fired the task force on Iran terrorism threat analysis and replaced it with his own guys.) Any false flag 9/11 attempt has already been somewhat preemptively discredited, American public is already suspicious, Joe Kent is too high profile to kill off without a flurry of attention and suspicion (plus he was former CIA and did intelligence in a bunch of places, so his death would almost certainly be investigated by the sorts likely to unravel the bullshit - remember that Trump is not on great terms with the deep state), and if Joe Kent is around when a false flag 9/11 happens he would sure as shit expose it and do so from a position of extreme authority.

So basically, there's too much risk and too high a likelihood of failure now. But last year they totally wanted one. Media was positively salivating at the threat of an "Iranian sleeper cell attack," since they were confident it'd galvanize the US public to support war. And now they have good reason to not be confident.
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>>20392
>Could have upped the quality a bit
The drop took about 12s, that means the drone was a good 1000-1500 ft above ground and the hot air doesn't help the quality either. Not too shabby for a drone camera tbh.
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>>20397
>Is anyone else thinking there might be another 9/11 on, say, 9/11?
In totally unrelated news: Trump threw a tantrum since they won't let him do a speech at the memorial event in NY, so he won't be anywhere near that.
>>20397
>When your enemies publicly provide the sound advice that your government won't.
Our government is one step ahead once again, gasoline sold at the pumps has 10-15% ethanol blended and that shit isn't shelf stable but it's for good reason because corn farmers needed subsidies to stop the glaciers melting.
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>>20382
>can't pay your home or car payment 
> the only way insolve your debts is by dying for Israel 
The most dystopian thing I've ever read. What's next enforcing the homeless to enlist?
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>>20396
https://goyimx.com/MMY1444
>>20401
I mean the quality of encode I did for this board, originals are 200-300 Mb
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>>20403
It's really the most obvious attempt at a solution if you think about it.

The feds know that attempting a draft will lead to riots and rebellion so they'll offer large "bonus" pay and schemes like this to try to get men to sign up willingly.

They clearly do not care about runaway inflation so fuck it, offer recruits a million dollars. Who cares from their perspective?
>>20400
>Doesn't know what a null hypothesis is.
Makes anything you type not worth reading. You deserve anything that happens to you.
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So apparently these two posts were made this week, but, for a second I thought they came from february or march, when the war started, I'm sorry, the 48h special operation epistein's fury.
>>20409
We're at the "Mission Accomplished" stage and have been for months. How embarrassing for the US as a whole.
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Iran has now attacked a US base in Jordan, it appears, and the US is denying any such attack happened. Iran's army spokesman (vid 3) has also said earlier that Iran's new policy is to preemptively strike perceived threats in the region now. Bear in mind, vid 3 has no subs, but the exact statement about the proactive self-defense policy starts at 1m3s.

>>20408
>>Doesn't know what a null hypothesis is.
>Makes anything you type not worth reading. You deserve anything that happens to you.
Okay retard, let's recap this for your addled mind: I'm the one pointing out that how much the US propaganda lies has no bearing on how true Iranian propaganda must be. You're the one arguing that since you distrust the US media, Iran's state media must be somewhat trustworthy. The null hypothesis, you fucking idiot, supports my position, not yours.

Just because you're an idiot who learned some words doesn't mean you're using them properly. You still haven't become a learned person or an intelligent person. You're just an idiot with words, words that you're seriously misusing.

>>20409
Vance hates the war and now has many problems because of it and Trump is being retarded as ever because he's coping through bullshit and delusion.
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>>20392
These filenames are fucking hilarious. Keep it up strelok.
>>20382
Ensnared in the debt trap the kikes intentionally-crafted for you with their funny money? Easy! Go die for the kikes, goy.
>>20409
We DID ask the Iranian chads, mascara-faggot boy. They told us the jewSA & kikes already lost. They also said they control the strait today; they control the strait tomorrow. Simple as.
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>>20400
>"these people are liars, so I am going to believe whatever the fuck is on an opposite side of them" 
To be fair, the ameritards are so untrustworthy, furtive and deceptive that it makes sense to take their opponents rhetoric at face value. 
I would trust the most ardent IRGC member over anyone in the current administration. It's occams razor, a narrative of probability, it remains to be seen if Iran has lied, but judging from how things have turned out I doubt it.
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>>20382
Don't be a fool

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>>20423
Oh great, the namefagging spammer is back again.
>the US
<Iran needs to stop targeting ships
>also the US
<those tankers had it coming
>>20417
>admin spends this last year or so swearing up and down that "only like 5 dudes" have died fighting in Iran
<BTW, you're going to compensate us for our fallen soldiers, who we suddenly and conveniently counted accurately
Holy shit. I can't tell if we're trying to be evil and ending up stupid or trying to be stupid and ending up evil.
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>>20426
Wait til you hear about a widow of one of those that died in March over Iraq. And was initially denied, for lack of a better term, "war widow" benefits as it wasn't and remains not a war.
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>>20429
Oh neat, role reversal.
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Now with rocket action, hope they finished the job with incendiary munition from drones, at least 1 vehicle looks recoverable.
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>>20433
Agreed it would be a good tactic. But honestly, even if ((( they ))) could get those junkpiles running again, it's of little consequence. Taking out the surveillance equipment was was really counted here.
>hey guise, let's bunch everything together out in the open desert!!
What could possibly go wrong. At least it was quick for them.
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>>20434
>was what*
>>20431
Honestly, its a little concerning to me that the Iranian State -run TV is following so many kike paradigms. Some of it comes across to my (admittedly untrained) eye as just another kike outlet for ((( western ))) propaganda. Why do they give a rat's ass about what the kikes air on their own propaganda outlets, for example? (They seem highly-focused on it.) If I wanted to hear that bunk, I'd sooner tune into the kike channels.
>>20438
Nicely-written article, some excerpts might be in order. E.G.:
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> This level of accuracy can only be the product of repetition. It cannot be improvised during an operation, nor can it simply be purchased off the shelf.
> What the footage reveals, therefore, is not a recently acquired capability but one that has been meticulously built and refined over the years of the ceasefire. Yemeni military’s command did not use the pause in major frontline activity to rest; it used it to train and develop new capabilities. In this sense, the footage is a receipt for years of unseen labor.

> The Yemeni military and the Yemeni resistance movement have evidently developed proficiency not only in platform operations but also in the upstream tasks that enable precision.
> It is clear that they have integrated ground intelligence networks, signals exploitation, and pattern-of-life analysis into its targeting process. The drone operators do not find so many targets by pure luck.

> In addition to light improvised munitions adapted for drone delivery, the footage shows mortars being regularly employed as dropped ordnance. This is not a trivial detail. Mortar rounds, particularly standard 81 mm or 82 mm types, carry considerably more explosive mass than typical FPV payloads or small field-fabricated charges. Delivering them accurately from altitude places real demands on the carrying platform.
> The payload-weight requirements for multiple mortar rounds are not compatible with most small commercial quadcopters. The platform must provide sufficient lift, stability, and controlled-release mechanisms. What the footage therefore implies is that the Yemeni military has been operating larger multi-rotor platforms – hexacopters or heavy quadcopters – capable of carrying meaningful ordnance loads. This represents a materially different capability class from repurposed consumer drones.
> More important than the platform itself is what sustaining such a capability requires. Larger multi-rotor drones demand more sophisticated manufacturing, more robust motor and ESC selection, battery systems capable of supporting the additional power draw, and purpose-designed munition mounts or release mechanisms.

Thanks, Strelok.
>>20440
You're welcome. Along with other "unwritten" rules of engaging with imageboards, using the green caret (greater-than symbol '>' ) as the very first character before a block of text indicates that this isn't the poster's writing (as with -- in this case -- a quote).

Following such a pattern with help.
>>20427
Fucking hell. I'll have to look that up. You'd think the hubbub around cerrypicking Purple Hearts back during GWoT would have taught anyone anything.
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>>20449
Same thing happened in Vietnam, with people not getting benefits because it was a "police action", not a war.
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The Dive-LD is a 5.8-meter, autonomous underwater vehicle (AUV) that can operate for up to 10 days and dive to depths of 6,000 meters. Its modular design allows for various sensors, making it ideal for missions like reconnaissance, seabed mapping, mine countermeasures, and inspecting underwater infrastructure, and Iran is gonna reverse engineer this bitch.
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>Medicine shortages grow in Iran as US tightens sanctions, blockade
>Many Iranians cannot access or afford life-saving or everyday medicine, but authorities insist pharmaceutical sector will not collapse.

>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/9/9/medicine-shortages-grow-in-iran-as-us-tightens-sanctions-blockade

>>20451
I thought the Iranians had their own? Or were they all surface vehicles?
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Nobody is talking about this but gas nearly doubled overnight on labor day weekend from 3 dollars to now nearly 5 dollars a gallon on the east coast.
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>>20454
Don't worry it's priced in.
>deep fake audio twat'd
>6million saud jews flee from yemen for their lives
>houthichads just keep winning
Welp, at least AI has served one good thing.
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Could it be the jig is up, Streloks? hope you stocked up by now Seems to me the kikes decided that Burglerland ((( labor day ))) was the moment to pull the plug.
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>>20458
Saud military tapping out, apparently?
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>>20461
Are those additional trucks cooking off from the sheer heat of the other fires, or are they getting hit too but the hits are just too small to see from the drone?
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>>20462
Not here. This is the ME thread, try the Russia thread two doors down.
>>20461
>>20466
strikes me its a combo of all three things.
>>20450
>Trump casually announcing another 1.4 trillion in debt in an effort to buy votes
Nigger is desperate.
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>>20406
at 5:50 is that another technical with a literal cannon mounted on the back? I remember one of those being a meme back in the Syrian civil war.
>>20469
>another 1.4 trillion in debt 
<just casually puts that out there
Trust the plan. Let the goyim deal in the real world.
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Happy 9/11 everyone!
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The houthis captured a bunch of American equipment from the Saudi mercs or something.
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Pump of Saudi East-West oil pipeline got evaporated
It transported up to 7M barrels/day (49M/week, 210/month)
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>>20476
They're going for as much of the oil supply as possible. It's smart they know they have to elevate the hurt on the western world if they want to win the waiting game.
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THE GREAT SAUDI CAMEL FIRE SALE
With the oil pipeline down and the Strait of Hormuz closed, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has announced a bold new economic diversification strategy: selling camels. 🐪

1. The "Vision 2030" Pivot Nobody Saw Coming

Crown Prince MBS has scrapped the futuristic NEOM megacity and replaced it with "NEOM: The Camel Mall." The world's largest indoor camel market, complete with a ski slope, a Versace camel clothing line, and a Starbucks that serves camel spit lattes for $47. The grand opening features a hologram of the Crown Prince riding a golden camel into the sunset while a drone show spells "WE STILL HAVE OIL, WALLAHI" in the sky. The camels are not amused.

2. The "Camel-Backed" Cryptocurrency

Saudi Arabia has announced a new digital currency called "CamelCoin" ($HUMP), backed by the kingdom's estimated 1.8 million camels. The white paper claims each coin is "pegged to one verified, purebred, emotionally stable camel." The coin crashes 97% within 24 hours after a video surfaces of a camel spitting on the Crown Prince's Rolls-Royce and being shot in the face for it. 
The camel is now a national hero.

3. The FIFA World Cup Camel Sponsorship

In a desperate bid for cash, Saudi Arabia has sold the naming rights to its entire national football team. The team is now officially called the "Al-Hilal Al-Jamal United Camel Fuckers" and their jerseys feature a life-sized camel pussy on the front, a camel butthole on the back, and a camel dick on the shorts. The goalkeeper's gloves are made of camel scrotum leather. PETA has declared war. The camels have declared humps.

4. The "Camel Airlines" Merger

Saudia Airlines has rebranded as "Camel Air." The planes are painted to look like camels. The in-flight meal is camel "milk" and dates. The safety demonstration video features a camel explaining how to fasten a seatbelt with its hooves. The airline's slogan: "We're not fast, but we're stubborn." The entire fleet is grounded within a week after a camel wanders onto the tarmac and refuses to move.

5. The Camel Stock Exchange

The Saudi Tadawul has launched a new index called the "Camel 30." It tracks the 30 most valuable camels in the kingdom. The index is highly volatile, crashing every time a camel gets a cold, spits on somebody, looks sad or dies. 
Analysts are baffled. One camel, named "Ashiah Sheikh Sparkles," becomes a billionaire overnight after a video of him wearing an epstein mask goes viral. He is now the richest camel in history.

6. The Camel Diplomatic Corps

Saudi Arabia has replaced its entire diplomatic corps with camels. The new Ambassador to the United Nations is a 12-year-old dromedary named "Abdul-Aziz the Unbothered." His first speech to the General Assembly consists of chewing cud and staring blankly at the French delegation. The French ambassador faints in complete awe. The camel is applauded for "refreshing honesty."

7. The "Camel-Only" Golf Course

The Crown Prince has converted his private golf course into a camel-only resort. The camels are given membership cards and unlimited access to the putting greens. They are not interested in golf. They are, however, very interested in the expensive landscaping. The resort goes bankrupt in three weeks. The camels are now living in the clubhouse with no fucks to give.

8. The Camel Reality Show

Saudi Arabia has launched a new reality TV show called "The Real Camels of Riyadh." It features eight camels living in a luxury compound, competing for a golden trough. The show is a massive hit with a massive camel shit. The camels are reportedly "difficult to work with" and "refuse to do any drama." One camel walks off set after being asked to wear a tiny hat, claims of animosity towards the shrews surface. The show is renewed for five seasons.
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I wouldn't mind a qt camel.
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>>20476
Kek Operation Epic Fail is going great.
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>>20481
There is only one man who can save Saudi now.
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>>20483
>The treaty doesn't cover a pre-existing condition
They are denying support for their "allies" like they are Jews denying an insurance claim.
>Le Drumpf is the reason California diesel prices are skyrocketing
That's more to do with the Democrats chasing oil companies out of the state. If they didn't, Democrats would be loudly bragging about how they are the only reason anything is still function instead of trying to pass off the blame to Orange Man.
>>20487
Can you blame them? Nobody wants to fight sandniggers using drones in the middle of a desert.
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I'm curious if anyone can confirm where the Saudi's mercs are coming from ?I've seen people mention US companies, Colombians, possibly even Ukrainians, though I doubt that they're continental Yuros. I'd also mentioned upthread (>>20388) the "large troop deployments" which we haven't yet seen in Iran proper, but may be who we're seeing elsewhere getting clapped in Yemen.

>>20481
>no mention of MBS adding a camel to the Tekken 8 roster
ONE FUCKING JOB

>>20486
>Only slightly retarded!

>>20487
>That's more to do with the Democrats chasing oil companies out of the state. If they didn't, Democrats would be loudly bragging about how they are the only reason anything is still function instead of trying to pass off the blame to Orange Man.
Absolutely this. The Left Coast could read: SHOULD provide considerably more refinement than it does. Don't forget that it's not just "OIL BAD", but the massive environmental lobby protecting the coastline and a general distaste of anything blue collar that isn't coopted by minorities. And yet, the same people let some money grubbing ((( cotton farmer ))) destroy the 5th largest lake in the US and complain aboyt the lack of water.
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>>20489
I think the saudi mercs are sandniggers, thinking they could toyota rush the rebel sandniggers.
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>>20490
The counter to the Toyotarush has been found in the fpv drone defense.
That statement sounds like some RTS e-sports faggotry, but it's about IRL warfare.
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>>20487
>>20488
I think everyone realized that it the fight is joined then it means something like World War Three, or at least an Arab world war which might just spiral into WW3 anyway. I think everyone understands that if it's going to stay contained then it's going to have to stay local.
>>20481
TOPJEJ
Thanks Strelok!
>>20490
Any druthers on which sandniggers? Considering where the Sauds het most of their labor, I wouldn't be surprised if they were jeets.

>>20491
True on both accounts. Although Toyotarush in the hands of the paid army of a more prominent nation and not the rebel faction is interesting to see.
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>>20494
>Any druthers on which sandniggers?
You sparked my curiosity so I've been trying to find out myself. It seems that the Saudis have multiple sources of mercenaries.
<the tribes who were in charge of the government the Houthis overthrew, although their numbers seem to be dwindling.
<local salafist jihadi groups, those seem to mostly be UAE backed and are called the Giants Brigades, some of them are directly linked to Al-Qaeda
<Sudanese militants, including child soldiers and former child soldiers, some sources indicate this is the biggest source
<Colombians who got hired under the pretext that they'd be working for the Saudi military. They get their passports confiscated and are sent to both Yemen and Sudan.
<there is an article from 2019 saying there were a thousand Pakistani troops in Yemen, but I don't know if they're still there or if the article is reliable in the first place
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>>20497
Thanks for the detective work, Strelok!

>They get their passports confiscated and are sent to both Yemen and Sudan.
Heh, what in the world possessed them in the first place to think they could trust the Saud sandniggers/
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>>20499
>Heh, what in the world possessed them in the first place to think they could trust the Saud sandniggers/
I read an article a while back, the ones that were interviewed said they had no real skills after leaving the Colombian military and the Colombian economy sucked, so they were desperate. Internationally Colombian mercs are extremely sought after and can demand high prices. Saudi is normally a pretty safe bet, high pay and low risk since they're mostly just show ponies. They seem to only fuck over a small percentage of their Colombian mercs, so on average to the prospective mercenaries it seems safer than other places, like Ukraine, which is the other big employer of Colombian mercenaries. Other than Saudi and Ukraine, there aren't many places which hire large numbers of Latin American mercenaries, and the ones that do want the cream of the crop like former special operations guys. The countries that need mercenaries but aren't in the US sphere of influence just go with Russians, who are cheaper, better, and can be hired in a package that offers a wider range of services like air support, armored, and mechanized units. Of course the vast majority of mercenaries are hired more locally, importing mercenaries from a whole different continent is fairly rare all told.
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Ship hit an Iranian mine and exploded last night. A supertanker apparently.
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Apparently Sauds bombing their allies was intentional.  I suppose that commander felt it was some kind of summary execution?
>>20503
>saudis bombed ally for fleeing the battlefield after they themselves fled
I know they're desperate and dont want to risk their own skins but that kind of stunt convinces people not to come fight for you. They're going to have a worse time enticing allies/mercenaries and preventing desertions now.
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>>20502
For some reason, FENTCOPE felt the need to lie about that one as well? I wonder what they think they would gain by saying that?
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But I thought America was winning?
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Lmao. Why isn't every Tom, Dick, and Harry shipping operation rushing towards the Strait rn?
>>20503
The Southern Giants Brigades are straight up wahabi salafi terrorist types. Like actual Al-Qaeda type dudes. Keeping them on a short leash and bombing them if they get out of line is probably the safest thing for everyone.
>>20504
>that kind of stunt convinces people not to come fight for you
The Southern Giants Brigades have a pretty nasty reputation even among their own supposed side. I don't think this will have much impact on morale in general.
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>YUROP MUST SPEND ITS OWN SHEQELS THOUGH!!
Jej. Kikes literally cannot keep from grubbing sheqels, even when faced with their own imminent doom.
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>>20510
>NATO enlargement 
>goes on about energy security 
>anything else I say belongs in the other slapfight thread
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>>20511
The kikes raping Yurop must be starting to feel a little pressure now.
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>"Bit of a tarbaby you've fashioned for yourself mate?"
>>20497
Good on you, Strelok!

>Sudanese militants, including child soldiers and former child soldiers, some sources indicate this is the biggest source
This one makes sense if you're pulling from Africa. The Sudanese would be confortable with the wide expanses and light "cav" Toyotarush tactics. FAR less so with looking up.
>Colombians who got hired under the pretext that they'd be working for the Saudi military. They get their passports confiscated and are sent to both Yemen and Sudan.
Fucking guys can't catch a break. Holy shit.
>there is an article from 2019 saying there were a thousand Pakistani troops in Yemen, but I don't know if they're still there or if the article is reliable in the first place
Interesting. If they're not around, I wonder if they were given the boot recently or not?

>>20501
Chechens were the third-world merc meta fir a good while, unless they're wrapped up in the "Russians" category? 

>>20512
It's like they're begging for Eastern Yuros to turn to Putin. HMMMMMMM....

>>20504
True enough. Although that doesn't always mean that you can't find someone to hire, that does often mean you'll be left with some damn near useless replacements. Something I've been looking for to no avail (and why I asked above) was the presence of Indians on really ANY side of ANY conflict. They seem characteristically OVERconfident in their military's chances, but theyve done almost fuckall anywhere that I can find, excluding their massive air battle with Pakistan and the occasional donnybrook with the chinks up in the Himalayas. If ever there was a time to at least TRY and garner some real experience it was in Ukraine and now possibly Yemen.
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Just so you guys know, Yom Kippur is on September 21, next Monday. Think something funny is gonna happen then?
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>>20514
>Chechens were the third-world merc meta fir a good while, unless they're wrapped up in the "Russians" category? 
The ones who are actually mercenaries just fall into the Russians category, but most of what you're probably thinking of I'd call terrorists for hire. Chechens just seem to show up wherever there is an Islamic Jihadi thing going on like flies show up when you leave something out to rot. I know the CIA has something to do with it, but calling them mercenaries doesn't seem exactly accurate. Chechens are more like ecology than economy.
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ZOG KING GOES FULL RETARD WITH DEVASTATING 40,000-TON ISRAELI BACKED BOMBING CAMPAIGN AFTER MIDTERMS
The scale of devastation from a 40,000-ton bombing campaign in the Middle East would be unprecedented in modern warfare. 
To understand the scale, we have to look at what 40,000 tons of ordnance actually does when deployed.
>The Bombing of Tokyo (March 1945): 1,665 tons of incendiaries killed an estimated 100,000 people and destroyed 16 square miles of the city.
>The Bombing of Berlin (March 1945): 3,000 tons dropped by 2,023 aircraft caused massive destruction across the city.
>The Bombing of Hamburg (1943): Roughly 9,000 tons dropped over several days created a firestorm that killed 40,000+ people.

The shipment to Israel is 13 times larger than the Berlin raid and 24 times larger than the Tokyo firebombing.

<The Targets and Their Vulnerabilities

1. Iran's Nuclear Facilities (Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan)
>These are buried under 80–90 meters of rock and reinforced concrete.
>A massive bombardment would not only destroy the facilities but could release radioactive material into the atmosphere, contaminating vast areas.
>The surrounding civilian population, millions in cities like Tehran, Isfahan, and Kashan would be exposed to fallout.

2. Hezbollah and Lebanon

>The 2006 war saw Israel drop roughly 4,500 tons of bombs on Lebanon, killing over 1,000 civilians and displacing 1 million people.
>A 40,000-ton campaign would be nearly 9 times larger. Entire neighborhoods in Beirut's southern suburbs (the Dahiya) would be leveled. The casualty count could reach tens of thousands, with hundreds of thousands displaced.

3. Gaza

>Already devastated by over a year of war, Gaza's infrastructure is on the brink of collapse.
>A 40,000-ton campaign would complete the destruction. UN officials have warned that Gaza could become "uninhabitable" within months. The death toll, already over 50,000, could double or triple.

https://goyimx.com/phantompain1984/status/2099917423017332915
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-issues-warning-on-report-of-israel-bomb-sale-no-precedent-12447305
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>>20518
Thanks Strelok.

>AFTER MIDTERMS
Why do you think the kikes will wait until after US Midterm Elections to begin dropping these things all over the ME? I don't see any indications that the deliveries of these massive 1-ton bombs will be delayed until then. Do you think the yidsraeli cabinet will delay even one hour after deliveries start to start dropping them on the heads of civilian women & children in Gaza & Lebanon? Did I miss something here?

Here's the original Tucker Carlson post, BTW.
https://goyimx.com/TuckerCarlson/status/2099906095905165701
Get it while you can. I'm sure goyimx is being targeted in another way.
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>>20517
>Chechens are more like ecology than economy.
Heh. Very interesting take, Strelok. Thanks.
>>20489
A lot of Yemen is still in the hands of rival Yemeni governments, some more legit then others and all backed in varying degrees to counter the Houthis. Yemen itself has a population in the tens of millions. So a good portion of those fighters are rival groups. Of course, Saudi Arabia just reopened Pandora's box, as the ceasefire in place from many years ago was to save off the Houthi attack that was conquering the country. Now they are free to wrap up West Yemen and consolidate power.
>>20503
>first pic
>It was actually true
wew
>>20515
I was hoping for something funny to happen since forever, but the kikes can't do it anymore like the good ol' days.
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>"It's always the squirters you gotta look out for bro.
>t. Kekseth
I'd give it approximately 14days before the US can claim total victory in the region.
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>Swarthy sandalwearers down sophisticated fighter jet using homegrown means
F15 bros, I'm not feeling so well.
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>>20518
>>20519
I would predict that Iran will strike preemptively, probably just as soon as the munitions arrive in Israel. So whether Israel can be convinced to wait or not is probably moot because Iran will kick it off early regardless. They would almost have to since that much weaponry constitutes an existential risk. I'm guessing they'll slam Israel hard and also they'll hit US/NATO bases that could be used as support during a new Israeli bombing campaign.
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>>20526
Ignoring the Iranians attempting to appear as defenders retaliating against the abominable AmerIsraeli nation, wouldn't it be more reasonable for the Iranians to take one look at this deal in the works, close their Brave browser, and start bombing Israel like now? I know I'm just a retarded anon and I'm not being moved by international scarcity, an economical collapse threatening my position in government/military, and the looming threat of a bombing campaign being conducted on my nation, but it seems it would be better to strike now unless they can pinpoint where the weaponry is getting offloaded/stored/loaded onto and strike that, essentially crippling the whole effort to arm Israel.
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>>20527
Any move too drastic means the nukes come out, so might as well maximize the damage to insure your enemies go down with you. Destroying all the munitions and Israel seems like a good way to do that.
>>20524
The plane is fine, that was a blowout wing.
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>>20529
Possibly the smol missile the Houthichads kindly used to helpfully  assist the Saud plane to properly shed that irksome wing.
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>>20524
Really expensive big jet vs. really cheap little truck. Who would win?
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Finance bros, I...
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Iran strikes on Amazon data centers caused permanent loss of customer data

>Half a year after Iranian drone strikes knocked out multiple Amazon data centers, the US tech company has acknowledged the permanent loss of some customer data that was hosted in Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates.

>Amazon Web Services was “unable to restore access to the resources and data” hosted in some of the war-damaged data centers, according to an AWS dashboard update posted on September 15. The development was first reported by Reuters and suggests that the Iranian strikes inflicted catastrophic damage on the data centers.

>Customer data was irretrievably lost in one of three AWS availability zones in the United Arab Emirates region, specifically the mec1-az2 availability zone. Each availability zone is serviced by one or more Amazon data centers

>The company is still working on “recovering regional resources” and restoring resources hosted in the other two availability zones in the United Arab Emirates. The AWS update described ongoing work to replace “affected infrastructure” and promised to update customers on a restoration of services in the coming months.

>But the destruction was apparently even more widespread for the data centers in the Bahrain region, because Amazon said it was unable to restore access to resources and data across all three availability zones there.

>“The damage to our infrastructure spanned multiple Availability Zones and exceeded what our regional and multi-AZ services are designed to withstand,” the AWS update said.

>The company had already suspended customer billing in the affected AWS regions in Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates and has spent the past six months attempting to restore normal operations.

>The Iranian drones first struck the Amazon data centers in Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates on March 1 in the opening days of the ongoing war that began with US-Israeli attacks on Iran on February 28.

>AWS immediately urged customers to migrate resources to other cloud regions and use remote backups to restore any “inaccessible resources.” The cloud service also reportedly issued $150 million in customer credits following the initial Iranian strikes in March.

https://archive.is/eSbq7
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>ywn MANPAD training during highschool studies.
Why Streloks, why?
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Do the Sauds have any reasonable hope that the pipelines (both old & "emergency") won't just continue to be bombed to smithereens? After all these are fixed, above-ground structures.
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>"It's just a laundry fire, bro!
Nothing to see here, folks.
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>>20538
I am aware of the memes, but shitty maintenance is always suspect number one.
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>>20539
Fair point. And with the utter DIE-ification of the US forces, we can expect this trend will only accelerate (probably rapidly). Confer Perrow's "Normal Accidents" for further insights on this phenomenon.
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>>20536
I envy their hard earned sense of patriotism. So much.
It's not fucking fair.
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ZOG is packing up and clearing out completely from Iraq rn, it seems. Interesting timing.
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>>20538
As "conscious" as Mitch McConnell roflmao
>>20542
The "timing" was realizing they were in missile range.
>>20533
>Iran gave advanced notice it would target data centers
>Even called out Amazon
>They didn't listen
>>20537
The Saudis think they can get the US to bomb the Houthis for them despite the Houthis only targeting Saudis and not Israelis. The Saudis are also woefully unprepared and think they can just pay off an army to fight for them and airstrike the Houthis away, exactly the same failed tactic for years.
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>>20533
>Iran ridding the world of data centers
Based.
>>20545
The Saudis solve all their problems with Amerigoy money. Why not pay the Houthis to fuck off? It's a better plan than what they're doing currently.
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>>20546
>The Saudis solve all their problems with Amerigoy money. Why not pay the Houthis to fuck off? It's a better plan than what they're doing currently.
The Houthis literally just want to be left alone, the Saudis are 100% the aggressor here. They already agreed to a peace deal at one point then the Saudis refused to implement it because the Houthis decided to do their little stunt to support the Palestinians. The Saudis wouldn't even need to pay them off to get them to leave them alone, they'd just need to agree to stop fucking with them. The whole reason the Houthis rebelled in the first place was because the Saudi backed government in Yemen was being dicks to them. Now that they are the government of Yemen the whole war is the Saudis just trying to genocide them in revenge for getting rid of their proxy. The Yemen conflict is the most stupidly evil shit being done to the people of Yemen by the US, Saudi, the UAE, and Israel.
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>>20510
Hurry up, goyim! Spend your own sheqels and lets get this mess cleaned up...we have contracts to fill!!
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Talking of grubbing sheqels. Pay up.
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>>20530
I looked into that missile a while back, if it is properly considered a missile. I'm personally not sure if there is a clear distinction between missiles and drones anymore, if there ever really was. It's a two stage design with a jet powered loitering stage and then a rocket propelled stage to engage targets with. Wikipedia says it performs poorly against fast moving high flying aircraft, but I think It's probably a lot more capable of engaging high altitude threats than its specs would imply, since rockets burn most of their fuel gaining altitude. If that's handled by a jet engine the rocket propelled phase will be coming in with a running start and starting at the halfway point of the race. I bet it'd be a real menace to refuelers, since those are slow and have to be in predicable locations. Send out a couple of these to execute a search pattern and you could seriously complicate aerial operations. The real nasty thing would be to take out links in a daisy chain of refuelers so that the attacking planes can't make it to the next leg on the fuel they've got.
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>>20553
>The real nasty thing would be to take out links in a daisy chain of refuelers so that the attacking planes can't make it to the next leg on the fuel they've got.
Really shows how the idea of making an expensive plane just to fly a meatbag and a bunch of missiles across half the globe is a wholly obsolete idea. If the US was not a fucking joke they could just park some ships packed with drones off the coast of Yemen and suppress rebel activities for a fraction of what was spent on the Iran debacle. But in practice what would happen is that a company such as Lockheeb would ask for 10% of the country's GDP upfront and then fail to deliver anything close to the specs after a decade of R&D.
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>>20555
Checked.
>Really shows how the idea of making an expensive plane just to fly a meatbag and a bunch of missiles across half the globe is a wholly obsolete idea
I wouldn't go so far as to say meatrockets are obsolete. Maybe that their dominance is being challenged, much like western hegemon is in much of this conflict as well as Ukraine. Fighters still have the advantagse of mixed payloads, mission specialization, adapting to mission changes, and (VERY VERY IMPORTANTLY) immediate human discretion. 

Strelok's right (>>20553) about the distinguishing between missiles and drones being blurred, especially as everyone is gearing up to deploy AI en masse and Ukraine showing how sloppy and blasé drone "operators" can become when fighting behind a screen and not actually throwing hands. Houthis seem much more skilled and dedicatd in execution, but their backs are absolutely up against a wall; Ukros can flee to Europe.

I think one reason the Chinese have been simultaneously whoring their infantry out as UNPKF and developing their creepy MGS gundogs is they're probably well aware of the PR nightmare of an automated combatant wiping out a village of civvies because it couldn't distinguish between "human objects" and wouldn't stop until it ran out of ammo/juice...worse if it's a friendly fire incident. You can avoid much of that risk with an immediate human interface.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I simply must masturbate to the new AC8 movie...
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>>20549
Kikels should not be counting their chickens before they hatch. Edom is banking on a promise of technology that may not exist yet, or may not work as advertised. If the U.S. agrees to give Edom access to Arrow 4, Arrow 5, and space-based weapons as compensation, it is essentially writing a check for systems that are still on the drawing board. This creates a dangerous gap between the promise of capability and the reality of what can be delivered.

>There exists a development Gap, Vaporware and Dead Ends
Many of these "compensation" items are not off-the-shelf products. They are programs that may be years or decades away from being operational, if they ever are.
<Arrow 4 and 5: The current Arrow 3 is already a cutting-edge exoatmospheric interceptor. Arrow 4 and 5 are not deployed systems. They are concepts for future threats, potentially including hypersonic glide vehicles. There is no guarantee they will work, or that they will be ready in a relevant timeframe.
<Space-Based Weapons: This is the biggest wild card. The idea of putting interceptors or high-powered lasers in space has been a staple of science fiction and military wish lists for decades. The technical challenges are immense, power, cooling, targeting, and cost. There is no operational space-based weapon system today, and there may not be one for a very long time. If Edom is promised "space-based weapons," it may be receiving a promise that is decades from reality.
<Bunker Busters: While the GBU-57 exists, the U.S. has refused to give it to Israel precisely because it is a scarce, high-value asset. Promising it now does not mean it will be delivered tomorrow.

>There are strategic Risks of a "Vaporware" Deal. If the U.S. offers these systems as compensation, it creates several risks:
<1. The Promise Becomes a Liability: If Israel agrees to the F-35 sale to Saudi Arabia based on a promise of future technology, and that technology is delayed or fails, Israel will have traded a real, current advantage (its qualitative military edge) for a future, uncertain one. It could end up weaker, not stronger.
<2. The "Check" Bounces: If the U.S. cannot deliver, the deal collapses. The U.S. will have sold F-35s to Saudi Arabia, damaged Israel's trust, and gained nothing. It is a lose-lose scenario.
<3. The Illusion of Deterrence: If Israel believes it has these capabilities, it might act more aggressively, assuming it has a shield that doesn't exist. This could lead to miscalculation and escalation.
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>>20562
But I'm A-OK with any of these outcomes, Strelok. I no longer root for the jewSA, and certainly don't for yidsrael. Let them fuck each over in the courts or on the battlefields for all I care. I just want their rule over the West to end.
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>>20564
Thanks Strelok.

>"You, me, everyone's gonna pay for it...
I notice he conveniently left out the fact that the yidsraeli/jewSA forces started this whole shitshow. Why blame the Houthichads for their understandable counteroffensive against the kike-tool Sauds?
>>20563
>I just want their rule over the West to end.
For the EU, maybe. Although they will face a new master in the form of Russia, more than likely.

For the continental US, things will get desperate as ZOG will straight-up seize US citizens' shit to counter the crushing international debt.
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>>20566
They've been doing it 'by proxy' for decades now, so nothing new there. Fun question: who is the largest US farmland holder (you know, the places that produce all the food you & I need to survive)?
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>>20567
Point is, if you include Weimerica in "the west", jewish power has a long way to fall before it's gone. It almost certainly won't be in our lifetimes.
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>>20568
Who knows what a day may bring? The kikes are utter cowards in and of themselves. They just hire henchmen to do all their dirty work. As we saw with Luigi before, and the Saud "mercs" today, the faithless & cowardly will turn in an instant when the pressure is on.
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>ME Bros, I...
Did Blumpf get the go-go ((( greenlight ))) yesterday?
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LOOKS LIKE IGNOBLE UNRESTRAINT IS FINALLY ON THE MENU, BOYOS!

Will the Persians finally cut loose and rain hell onto tel Aheeb at last?
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What did he mean by this?
Will they also store sufficient chicken nuggies for the troops there?
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>>20573
Reminds me of uncle Adolf wasting resources on rebuilding Berlin even when the situation started to run dire on the east. Also, I'm pretty sure that such arches are not as common as he makes them to be.
>20574
I read it more like
>I'm building another doomsday bunker in my back yard! Don't you feel safe? Isn't this war going great?
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The kikery afoot late last week to delay the impeachment proceedings against Kekseth, as well as release of more epstein files.
https://goyimx.com/DropSiteNews/status/2100631114997989663
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>>20577
The GOP in general employs the strategy of
<Run out the clock on the country and plan our escape
fucking daily.
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>>20578
Actually, that's a generic kike trait (refined by hundreds of years of forced flights). It just so happens to manifest itself very-strongly in the jewSA's corrupted government -- and on both sides of the aisle.
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>>20579
Of course. Regardless, it's irritating to see people all over the country look at the actions of congress (for example) and say,
>Finally! someone is going to do something about [problem]
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>"Just a training exercise bro!11

>>20580
Yeah I agree fully, Strelok.
>>20562
> Edom is banking on a promise of technology that may not exist yet, or may not work as advertised. If the U.S. agrees to give Edom access to Arrow 4, Arrow 5, and space-based weapons as compensation, it is essentially writing a check for systems that are still on the drawing board. This creates a dangerous gap between the promise of capability and the reality of what can be delivered.
I think you may have it the other way around, based on how they usually pull their political bullshittery. It's possible that they ALREADY HAVE all of the listed capabilities, but had them under wraps, under development, or were restricted in their possession or use. This "deal" would instead legally validate what's already in their possession. I think the play here is that once they (inevitably) misuse these weapon systems, the blame can be placed in the US for giving them TO israel in the first place.

>>20573
...And then there's this shit. Why not convert the Washington Monument into a Command & Conquer style Tesla tower? Or reanimate those interred in Arlington as undead shock troops? Fucks sake, this James Bond villain timeline is unfuckingreal.

>>20577
>impeachment
Funny way of spelling,
<hanged by the neck until he is dead
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>>20583
>This "deal" would instead legally validate what's already in their possession.
This is incredibly common when legislation occurs, you have a representative breaking laws left and right, unbothered because there is a bill or some other legislation they'll pass in order to normalize their fuckery. 
It seems they haven't figured it out with epstein, but slippery snakes like Mike Johnson still seems to get away with shutting down the house in order to prevent being confronted with the fact that he is complicit in the world's largest, most sophisticated, longest running ring of predatory super crimimals.
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