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There are anarchists, monarchists, tradcaths, perennialist traditionalists, regionalists & pastoralists, etc.
...but no fascists...
Some users even hate fascism & speak only in contempt of unitary state corporatism (one party systems) and collectivism in general.
It is peculiar the last thing you'll find on /fascist/ is a fascist.
I am as neu future , burnt ground but do not know what fascism is sadly.
>>9162 (OP) 
Hello tourist. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>9162 (OP) 
I've been told that not hating White people makes me a fascist.
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>>9170
I've noticed White people sticking up for themselves, get called a 'nazi' or 'racist', and the White person in question was an anti-racist. Quite hilarious but sad development.
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>and the White person in question was an anti-racist.
That's their problem. An unabashed racist would not give a shit.
>>9162 (OP) 
I love fascism and I really like Fascism. (not a typo)
>>9189
Indeed. It is almost as if "racist" is just a code word for White people. After all, a dehumanizing word used to explicitly target one racial group (White people) is by definition a racial term.
Thus, "racist," which is never used to attack niggers or Mexicans, is itself a racial slur. 

And we may go further. I have noticed that the same people who hate "racists" and exclusively attack White people, also state that their ultimate goal is to cleanse the world of "racists." To, in otherwords, exterminate all racists.

It is, therefore, completely reasonable for all White people, all "racists," to resist what is an obviously genocidal line of reasoning.
Indeed, even White people who do not view themselves as racists ought to recognize that their own self perception is irrelevant when their enemies will always call them "racists" due to the color of our skin. If indeed we are fascists here, even "non-fascists" are still fascists in the eyes of anti-Whites. And if they get their way, we will all die in the same pit.

It's time for all racists to fight back against the genocidal ((( enemy )))
>>9162 (OP) 
new to board, seeing If I can post from tor

sage sage sage
I am anti-antifa.
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>>9162 (OP) 
Fascists who have nothing say about past, present or future Rome >>9332 is very odd tbf.
>tradcaths and perennialist 
You mean spics and midwit homos (probably part Jewish)
>>9798
Dugin is correct that we need to move beyond both anti-fascism and anti-communism. Both of these positions are a LARP in the 21st century and say nothing about the main enemy: liberalism
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>>10227
>stop with anti-communism now!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck off nazbol shill.
Fascism is by definition and nature anti-communist.
mussolinis been dead for decades who the fuck is a fascist anymore? at least hitler had some success to justify the existence of neo-nazis. but mussolini? even his own party couped him. Mussolini was fascism. And mussolini is dead
>>9162 (OP) 
the attatched video says it all. mussolini is literally a joke in 2026.
In the loosest terms, isn't national socialism defined as a state fashioned around the needs of an ethnic people, while fascism is an ethnic people fashioned to the needs of a state? This is why they overlap enough to not hate each other, with shared discussion points, while still being uniquely different. National Socialism is a specific German iteration of it from the 20th century, with Fascism being a specific Italian version of it from the 20th century.
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>>10227
Dugin is just appealing to traditionalism which is really hip right now right /pol/fags.
Few people understand the tensions that brought about Fascism instead of oldschool Christian Traditionalism (which Dugin for all I know represents).

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In the Fascist view, there isn't even a coherent notion of a people without a state--when people are disorganized, they lack coherence, they no longer are a "people" but a flock of goats, i.e. the Status Quo right now, white people without regulation according to racial awareness in this cosmopolitian atmosphere will cease to be without an organized racial awareness.
Yes, Fascism is a kind of republican State Corporatist absolutism, so Natsocs tend to scorn it like it was its own republican equivalent of absolute monarchy.
Natsoc is a state corporatist ideology as well.

Benito Mussolini:
Speech of the Ascension, May 26, 1927
The Unitary State
>But in the meantime I come to an essential point of my speech: perhaps the most important. What have we Fascists done in these last five years? We did something huge, monumental, centuries in the making. What have we made? We have created the Italian Unitary State. Consider that from the time of the Empire onward, Italy was no longer a unitary State. Here we solemnly reaffirm our doctrine concerning the State; here I reaffirm my formula in the speech I delivered at La Scala in Milan: "Everything within the State, nothing against the State". I do not even think anyone in the 20th century can live outside the State, unless they are in a state of barbarism, a state of savagery.

>It is only the State that gives people a consciousness of itself. If the people are not organized, if the people are not a State, they are simply a population that will be at the mercy of the first group of internal adventurers or external invaders. Because, dear gentlemen, only the State with its juridical organization, with its military force, prepared at all times, can defend the national collectivity; but if the human collectivity is broken up and reduced to the mere nucleus of the family, a few hundred Normans will suffice to conquer Puglia.

>What was the State – that State which we took over as it was breathing its last breath, gnawed by constitutional crises, debased by its organic impotence? The State which we conquered at the time of the March on Rome was the one which has been handed down from 1850 onward. It was not a State, but a system of badly organized prefectures, in which the prefect had but one preoccupation: that of being an efficient electoral errand boy.

Fascism and Democracy
>In that State, until 1922, the proletariat – what shall I say? the entire people – was absent, refractory, hostile. Today we announce to the world the creation of the powerful Unitary Italian State from the Alps to Sicily. And this State expresses itself in a centralized, organized, unitary democracy in which the people move about at ease, because, gentlemen, either you place the people within the citadel of the State, and they will defend it, or they will be outside, and they will assault it.
Mussolini:
>If the people are not organized, if the people are not a State, they are simply a population that will be at the mercy of the first group of internal adventurers or external invaders.
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>In so far as it is embodied in a State, this higher personality becomes a nation. 
>It is not the nation which generates the State
>Rather is it the State which creates the nation, conferring volition and therefore real life on a people made aware of their moral unity.

Giovanni Gentile
>Both Nationalism & Fascism place the State at the foundation–for both, the State is not a consequence, but a beginning.
>For nationalists, the State is conceived as prior to the individual.

Giovanni Gentile:
>For Fascism, on the other hand, the State and the individual are one, or better, perhaps, "State" & "individual" are terms that are inseparable in a necessary synthesis.


Bossuet:
>Otherwise there is no union; the people become wanderers, like a flock dispersed.
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>Far from the people being sovereign in this condition, there is not even a people in this state. There may be families, as ill-governed as they are ill-secured; there may well be a troop, a mass of people, a confused multitude; but there can be no people

Joseph de Maistre
>If sovereignty is not anterior to the people, at least these two ideas are collateral, since a sovereign is necessary to make a people. It is as impossible to imagine a human society, a people, without a sovereign as a hive and bees without a queen:
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Giovanni Gentile writes, "a people made aware of their moral unity."
--That is exactly what Fascism is saying.
It is the job of legislation to make whites "aware" of their "moral unity" -- their whiteness.
By legislation, establish measures and means to co-ordinate and cultivate white people to fit the mold firmer... if you want an ethno-state, this will be necessary, and the ideology of an ethno-state is its own cult of personality molding a people into the mold of being a firmer, more cultivated, tied together racial unity.
Without Natsoc and its strides and movements to deal with the discussion of race, and men committed to this task, the "moral awareness" and "moral unity" being striven for would be impossible.
"Mine" and "thine" of racial awarenes needs to be combined into one race of whites... when a city is divided on account of race, the community of pleasures and pains is in total disarray, "mine" and "thine" are at odds--this is the incentive for racial policy to begin with, is it not?
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