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So let us envision America post Revolution. After a 30 year war, costing the lives of tens of thousands of people, somehow the White revolutionaries succeeded in overthrowing the regime. The jews and their pale skinned lackeys flee to Israel only to find half a million Arabs attacking. We'll check in on them later.

Assuming we don't instantly fight a much bloodier civil war over petty squabbles that allows the jews to regain control with the support of lemmings who will always choose them over chaos... how should government be structured?
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>>4908 (OP) 
>how should government be structured?

Like Hitler did in Germany to fix Weimar.
It's literally all there needs to be done,nothing more nor less.
The main problem remains getting rid of current ZOG..
There are no kikes to divert resources to niggers. That's how it works.
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>>4908 (OP) 
I'm sorry to say, but there will be no revolution. There's no way to undo the damage jewish media has imposed on the west. Just look at the daily agony that's suffered. The only means at all to resist the jewish beast is to starve it from within. Working tangentially in finance has shown me that even beyond politics is money. Even the most feral nigger when asked to return "they trump stimlis" didn't. If there is a chance, even a small chance, it will lie in combination of Orania, and menonism. Building societies within societies that tie value to white labor in such a way to natually alienate those too stupid to think in the abstract is the only way that is actually working in this age. While I don't subscribe to their heresy, the fact that menonites are the only White Christian demographic that has synthesized technology and tradition into a working society is one that merits research and emulation. The closest thing that I could find as to how to start this is by using a basket of currencies that is valuable but not mainstream in terms of circulation. Bizzarely, I was lurking 4cuck and found the following formula and its the sort of thing that also merits wargaming. I look forward to the discussion, but since this board doesn't seem to allow torposting I won't post again.
>>4918
I said somehow
I get your pessimism. However, within your prognosis lies the seed of revolution anyway. Let's say we do build a viable alternative to the regime. Like Golden Dawn tried to do in Greece.
If what you say will happen happens, and the regime is slowly bled from within while our parallel society prospers, we would eventually reach a power parity with the regime where we would become strong enough to take what we own by force.
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>>4918
I like your train of thought. How about this: whites make a civilization within civilization that is so complex only the intelligent are able to function within it. Stop making things simple, stop teaching non-whites. Don’t help them integrate. Do this while increasing the complexity required to function and prosper.
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>>4920
Are you talking some centralized authority or autonomous syndicates?
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>>4918
>this board doesn't seem to allow torposting


You mean 4cuck?
Because I am posting here from tor myself.
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>>4919
>Golden Dawn
>Power parity
I don't think politics are even possible in this climate. Golden Dawn, just like AfD and other dissident political parties are eventually subverted at best (like the TEA party,) or a pied piper controlled opposition operation at worst. Any use of force should happen taliban style. It'll be years before that sort of resistance can happen in earnest in the west. I can't get 5 men in the same room to agree to any one thing these days.
>>4921
Do Oranians, menonites or even the better known amish run candidates? Answer that question for yourself and report your findings. How would you you organize such a thing and wargame it with close friends/family. Naturally keep that answer to yourself. The only answer I offer is what I found. I'm not a precious metals or crypto guy, but having a means of exchange that would work locally and remotely is a great start. 
>>4923
Pic related. The tor address http://crghlabr45r5pqkgnbgehywk5nxutdks5iss7tabyux5psikqqjirryd.onion doesn't ever load and every time I try to post on a tor connection, regardless of vpn usage, browser or OS, I get that. Also, zzz has banned phoneposting like cuckchan did. Keep up the discussion, but until the BO unfucks TOR this place will only be ever good for consumerist circlejerks like the rest of them. Even /chrstian/ seems to have died and I was rooting for them.
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>>4924
>Any use of force should happen taliban style.
> I can't get 5 men in the same room to agree to any one thing these days.
We're going to need to start agreeing if we hope to engage in the type of resistance you're describing. 
The Pashtuns seen to have been in lock step agreement on all the important issues.
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>>4925
Good luck, as I doubt we are both even the same kind of Christian to even get the ball rolling. Incidentally, can I get a nigger check?
>>4924
The onion address is fucked up. When you navigate to that hyperlink, wait for it to load the page and then change https:// to http://

For some dumbfuck reason, the page redirects to https which Tor does not use.
>>4908 (OP) 
I'd say it really depends on how the revolution happened and what kind of leader emerges.
>Assuming we don't instantly fight a much bloodier civil war over petty squabbles
Then I don't think it would be very stable. The night of long knives happened for a reason.
>>4918
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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>>4931
If we did somehow manage to take power, our hold on it would be tenuous at best. If we began to purge each other, particularly to purge other nationalists, we would lose power.

My second greatest fear is that if we do somehow manage to organize, to summon the courage to fight, and begin to win, then the jews will cede just enough power and space to allow our dysfunctional, selfish "leaders" room to start bickering and we will follow the French Resistance model and start killing each other rather than the real enemy.
If I ended up being killed by my own people rather than in a drone strike, I would know in the afterlife that everything was a waste and our race was doomed. So it would be like Hell regardless.
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>>4932
>If we began to purge each other, particularly to purge other nationalists, we would lose power.
Listed above is a real example which contradicts you: Hitler and the Night of the Long Knives.
Purges after revolutions are common (almost universal) because of the fact that revolutions make for strange bedfellows. It doesn't have to be violent. For instance a new leader could simply replace lower ranks with other men more loyal to himself. Due to the nature of revolution however, it usually is violent.

The fact stands that if a revolution were to happen in the modern west, there would be many civnats and other cucks in the ranks who belive in things like magic dirt and muh legal immigration and so on. These people would undermine an NS regime by their very nature and would need to be removed. 
Imagine it happened tomorrow in the US for instance. There would be Israel-worshipping "based nigger"-loving conservative cucks who are only fighting because of gun rights and covid restrictions. Do you really think they wouldn't be a drag on an NS government that wants things like national racial purity and the removal of the kike banking system? Left in positions of leadership they would sell us out to international jewry immediately.
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>>4933
>Listed above is a real example which contradicts you
Hitler was able to take power legally. We would not be able to do so in any realistic scenario.
You're right about the civnats though.
My fear is more that White nationalists will turn on each other. We're the weaker link here. At present, anyway.
>>4934
>My fear is more that White nationalists will turn on each other
It's already happening. Every organized movement, which is public should be considered kiked by default maybe with rare exceptions and full of retards. Twitter faggots are also a good example. That's where most useless and retarded cum guzzlers appear. Such people only have use in labour camps, regardless of their beliefs, even if they view themselves as "Fascists", "National-Socialists" or just about any label, really.
>>4934
>Hitler was able to take power legally.
It was still a revolution.
>My fear is more that White nationalists will turn on each other.
lol, lmao
We're way past talks of "unity". Revolutionary groups don't make alliances by their nature, it would defeat the whole point.
>If I ended up being killed by my own people rather than in a drone strike
Define "your own people"
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>>4937
White Nationalists.
>>4931
The nigger check is to out potential llms/glowniggers datamining. With that in mind, can I get a nigger check?
>>4934
>White nationalists will turn on each other.
That's why you have to start putting the things that matter on paper, then condense it to its base logic so that the sympathetic don't have a kneejerk "whatabout..." reaction. A declaration of independence from zog, so to speak. Anyone that agrees to the message of mein kampf and "Industrial Society and Its Future" is already most of the way there. One step below an official political party, one step above the selfish ramblings of lolbergtarians.
>>4937
>Revolutionary groups don't make alliances by their nature
We're years before alliances, at this point we have to recruit like minded people who wish to fight the system, and get them to agree to focus on the real fight before dissolving into whataboutism brought on by fear and paranoia. 
>Define "your own people"
The only people that matter, White Nationalists. However even we have to start looking at the world around us to see what works and what doesn't. Orania and menonism are two groups of pseudo-White Nationalists that can inspire a way forward for more Whites in the west.
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>>4943
You really don't seem to understand how revolution or acceleration works, nigger. You haven't even recruited yourself. I thought I told you to go back to your Discord larp group.
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>>4944
Why don't you enlighten us then.
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>>4944
Baseless accusations, assumptions and ad hominem will get you nowhere. In fact, Whataboutist types like you are what make this so hard to begin with. Is getting mad on the internet with strangers part of your master plan?
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>>4945
This thread already has all the "enlightenment" you need.
>>4946
>Baseless accusations, assumptions and ad hominem
Like accusing me of being a "whataboutist"?
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>>4947
It would help if you made your objections to his post more clear than "you don't know shit, nigger".
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>>4948
I already tried in another thread. This kid is incapable of coming up with original thoughts, taking his own initiative or considering other perspectives. His entire perspective of the movement is based on groomcord, 4chan and movementarian smooth talk. He dismisses real life examples of arguments and makes constant assumptions. He has little experience in the movement yet thinks he's some kind of Covington 2.0. He's just a defected NPC with room temperature iq that happened to find his way into our circles by chance.
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>>4950
>I know everything
>No, I won't share my knowledge
Actual NPC.
>>4925
>The Pashtuns seen to have been in lock step agreement on all the important issues.
They have been living in a racial and cultural bubble for centuries, unphased by subversion attempts.
Look at what the Taliban also did regarding women. The CIA was using them to channel feminism and weaken these men. Of course as typical inbred goat fuckers they typically go overboard when trying to control their women but there is no denying that being harsh against their women turned out to be necessary.
>>4931
>Then I don't think it would be very stable. The night of long knives happened for a reason.
By looking at our current situation I posit that there are higher chances of Whites killing millions of Whites because they're simply opposed to our radicalism than fellow radicals killing each other over trifles.
>>4932
>My second greatest fear is that if we do somehow manage to organize, to summon the courage to fight, and begin to win, then the jews will cede just enough power and space to allow our dysfunctional, selfish "leaders" room to start bickering and we will follow the French Resistance model and start killing each other rather than the real enemy.
Not if our elite is highly motivated by the purest ideals and our leaders are staunch realists who will accept no digression. The failure of other movements happened because they were not good enough ideologically (such as the varying shades of fascists or hard-right leaders) and their approach to racial milleniarism and the war against Jews, or simply way too few to have any chance at rising beyond a pathetic grassroots level. In fact it's likely that the stronger and more ambitious the message, the more sweeping it will be in its ability to seize the minds of entire populations beyond any form of logic or reason.
>>4933
>The fact stands that if a revolution were to happen in the modern west, there would be many civnats and other cucks in the ranks who belive in things like magic dirt and muh legal immigration and so on. These people would undermine an NS regime by their very nature and would need to be removed. 
Agreed.
>>4934
>Hitler was able to take power legally. 
He also had enough support for this to work. Take the rather tame consequence of the Beer Hall Putsch.
Please also consider the possibility that the voting was rigged internally to facilitate Hitler's victory. Who would really care? Why would he respect democracy when he hated it and got rid of it as soon as he got the power he needed? The population just needed a fairy tale. These days lots of people are jaded and resentful of democracy. We have huge fractions of the voter base that doesn't care at all about this farce. We shall exploit that.
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>>4955
>Not if our elite is highly motivated by the purest ideals and our leaders are staunch realists who will accept no digression.
One can hope.
>the possibility that the voting was rigged internally to facilitate Hitler's victory. Who would really care?
If White men could take power democratically, I would support that process. If we could take power through a military coup, I would support that process. If we could take power through a 30 year insurgency, I would support that process.
The end really does justify the means because the victors write history.
That said, how can we exploit the fact that ~50% of Americans are disengaged?
Really, it's only ~35% since non-Whites do not matter. 
I know many think that we can somehow reach them and I am all in favor of trying. But I don't know who these people are or how to reach them. All the people I know who care about race are either voting for Trump or not voting because voting is a sham.
I don't know anyone who isn't voting for any other reason. Granted, I haven't broached the topic with most people I know.
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>>4955
>We shall exploit that.
How do you suppose to use White voter dissatisfaction that without being noticed or sparking a civil war? We aren't operating in a vacuum, any overt action is will inevitably welcome a jewish hit piece. 
>Not if our elite [are] highly motivated...
I assume you mean "proposed" elite. Outside of invoking divine rule, how can we promote anyone within a group to validate them to be classified "elite" enough to lead the others, outside of one already wealthy enough in the first place? No one is going to willingly give their wealth to another, unless some guarantee is made that such wealth would become protection or more wealth. How do we convince one with such wealth to invest in insurgency as opposed to blow their boomer wealth on retarded shit like boats and boomer-mobiles?
>>4958
>If we could take power through a 30 year insurgency, I would support that process.
That is the only option left for us. That's what we have to convince middle-of-the-road republicucks of. Other than appealing to Orania and menonism, what can done to inspire subterfugal action? The more concise question is: How do I convince YOU that I'm serious about starting some shit?
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>The thread is being slid by verbose non sequitur bot posts.
I see why captcha is so necessary on these smaller chans.
>>4958
>That said, how can we exploit the fact that ~50% of Americans are disengaged?
That's leaving 50% who are engaged. Some of them are on the other side of the bridge, standing against us, but those closer to our side are better. Grug propaganda and ridiculizing the enemy works enough to cement our worldview and make sure gun collectors finally put their guns to good use. Revolutions are the concern of few people. The hardest part is having our people inside the police and the army. We need both the intel and the capacity to sabotage ZOG from within. A toothless ZOG is much less dangerous and easier to kill.
The non-voting Whites have a lot of potential. I suspect many just wait for something big to happen by now, for someone to get "shit done" in some kind of old fashioned way. They may be very open to the idea of creating alternative political powers where the ZOG law is more or less circumvented because even local cops wouldn't report much. The ideal would be to create our own silent no-go zones. There would be no signs but on the ground all Whites and all shitskins would know who rules over these lands.
We are in a dire need of "soft" militias that would not hesitate to insinuate enough to law enforcement forces so that they would understand that their real power is far lower than what the government would like people to believe. That's the way to go. We can't get there if we don't have militias that are ready to get their hands dirty, while avoiding a direct confrontation with ZOG forces. For one, that would be best called a White subversion. Meanwhile, local politicians would need to push more and more for pro-White policies and more freedom from the Federal government. There's simply no other way but that one. The ZOG will obviously apply counter-insurgency methods but it will be up to us to make it costly, not in blood but in money first. When you're moving around and sort of sabotaging Federal efforts and assets, a kind of latency begins to settle between orders sent from above and their application on the ground. Obviously in some states this would begin to become more and more tense. Then one day shit hits the fan, it's a true civil war and we simply better win.
We need the kind of White mafia that exists in jail to be made something just as real outside of penitentiary centers. When local journalists, judges, mayor and cop chiefs understand that something might happen and they might not enjoy it, then we'll get things moving our way. The government enjoys monopoly over the use of force. This has to change.
There are people who are against us, either they need to be neutralized or turned. There are those who prefer to remain neutral and we shall make sure they stay so. Then there are the fence sitters who still like Trump or some silly similar idea and they need to be softened to our ideas. Propaganda therefore needs to come in different forms for different layers and audiences.
Politically it needs to remain nice and good for optics, but the message needs to be strong nonetheless. Expose the duplicity, the corruption, the betrayals and so on. Show the black on White racial violence, the changing demographic facts.
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>>4959
>How do you suppose to use White voter dissatisfaction that without being noticed or sparking a civil war? We aren't operating in a vacuum, any overt action is will inevitably welcome a jewish hit piece. 
We can't really avoid it, can we? We merely can delay the final battle. Preferably we will be the ones deciding when it happens, but then we're talking about a major collapse of entire parts of the United States, with all that implies internationally. The way is through war. For now, the Jewish system seeks to maintain a sense of trust and legitimacy while supporting whatever is left of freedom but as we can see in Europe this too will soon be done away with. If it begins to crack down on locals because they're made aware of the corruption and organized genocide of Whites all over the world, it will radicalize people.
>I assume you mean "proposed" elite. Outside of invoking divine rule, how can we promote anyone within a group to validate them to be classified "elite" enough to lead the others, outside of one already wealthy enough in the first place?
Tough question. You need politicians who will do the polite work, and you need the unseen forces who will get dirty when needed. It's a fragile balance. There may not be a clear leader at first but more like an overall sense of local order rising that's clearly making its intent obvious to most, but only orally aside from more measured flyers and well thought out activism. Obviously the Jews will want to thwart that. They'll have snitches, they'll have false opposition. This is where the mafia part becomes handy because potential traitors will need to be dealt with ASAP. All aspiring people looking for a more militant engagement will need to be screened. Potential candidates will be taken to unknown places, blindfolded. There, their allegiance will be tested in the presence of shadowy men. One or two at most will talk. Only through deeds and sufficiently verified dedication will these potential candidates be allowed within the ranks and begin to discover the formerly unknown and unseen faces of a few of the underground leaders, starting at lower ranks. Unseen, secretive, segmented and mobile. Never be stupid enough to regroup all your leaders, especially the high ranking ones, unless special conditions urgently demand it. Delegate and work on a strict need-to-know basis. That kind of stuff right?
>How to get the boomer wealth?
I think we need to have local businesses they can invest in which will be fronts for our activities. They will be required to show a certain amount of political support too. All communities use local businesses. Sometimes they do it to launder money but since we don't need and don't want to go into criminal activities nor poison our people with drugs, there will be very money to launder. Electronic money will probably begin to make such an idea irrelevant too. What the people will need to do is even try to start local banks and protect their assets as much as possible. These banks will have to minimize the use of usury against Whites. Maybe incentives and offers will be provided to potential customers if they invest in other local yet right-wing businesses and magazines. This would obviously automatically filter out leftists and most of the colored people. There too, all would-be CEOs and bosses of any kind of company would need to be screened, at the very least visited by the local White "mafia" made of faces they're never seen. The more sensitive spots would definitely need to be screened with more intensive methods.
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>>4978
>The ideal would be to create our own silent no-go zones. There would be no signs but on the ground all Whites and all shitskins would know who rules over these lands.
This is smart.
> The ZOG will obviously apply counter-insurgency methods but it will be up to us to make it costly, not in blood but in money first. 
I was just contemplating this. I was watching and reading up on the sovereign Moors movement and how they issue bogus property leans to make the lives of judges miserable when they try to sell their estates. Never thought I'd be rooting for niggers. A White movement could do this too. Clog the courts until they fuck off. 
Then expand our support network. Grow larger, demand more concessions, repeat.

This is why I'm a strong advocate of Patriot Front, as they're the largest and best organized White nationalist movement in America. For too long we have been isolated and weak. A White party can network nationalists into government positions, provide legal cover for our direct action and for legal actions against the system, as well as ground cover for acts of intimidation against anti-Whites moving to an expanding no-go zone for racial enemies.
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>>4979
>We can't really avoid it, can we?
While it is a good strategy to extrapolate, there is no point to being belligerent when we are atomized to the point of powerlessness. While its agreed that a weakened foe is easier to defeat, one has to convince another to even be on the same side in the first place to have any chance of success. That's the question.
The second point
>Your vetting proposition
Personally, I find allegiance testing to be a bit of a larp. Is this the sort of thing a man wants to be subjected to if he really has a bone to pick with ZOG? The sorts of groups will necessarily need to be formed hyper-locally, wouldn't a person asked to undergo such a ritual immediately be resentful of those who didn't have to? I propose a remedy that may be a better guard: Fitness tests. Glowniggers and jews are everything but physically and mentally fit. There is no better filter against them than a self-imposed trial to see how serious they are about what they believe. 
The third point
>Poison our people with drugs
The very act of insurgency is illegal to the state, so there's no point to separating actions within the realm of legality: Who says it has to be sold to our people in the first place?
>Electronic money will probably begin to make such an idea irrelevant too.
That's why time is of the essense to make as much seed money as possible before the curtain starts to fall. Monero by design can't be outlawed, and what are precious metals other than crystalized wealth? 
>>4981
>Patriot front
Finally they're brought up. If they are as legit as they want to say they are, their fruit will show it. But the tree of overt masks, marches and empty slogans won't give them the seeds they are looking for. Their police escorts alone are suspect, especially when zog gleefully has the pigs slap around those who question their rule.
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There is no indication of race in picrel but we know that there are lots of Whites who would provide money to the left side of the political forces, especially those of the large urban areas. Subtle and smart thug-like coercion will often prove necessary, if only to put an end to the flow of White money towards enemy groups, left or right, until that money gets put to good use.
We can look at the figure. Bankers and lawyers are full of kikes but there are other groups which ought to count more Whites than brown people because of the required skills and intelligence, such as engineers and scientists. They give their money to Biden. That is, the left, in an age where the only difference lies in how militant one party is about supporting non-White immigration.
The good news is that small businesses are on the non-left side. These are small work force setups, many are family structures and workers operate as small teams instead of being channeled into very large corporations. They're all the more functional cells that offer much more flexibility and granularity for the money flow and the spread of propaganda. Now, more of these people need to be educated in abandoning support for the entire political fraud and to keep their money for true White defenders to invest strictly locally.
>>4981
The justice infrastructure rather is in a precarious state right now. A true hog on resources, it is more and more starved for money. It will only buy itself more time by going for more expediency which will unavoidably make it even less popular. A loss of faith in the rotten institutions is a key factor of our struggle towards independence.
We need to focus on the money. Would have our forefathers done this we would have had lobbyists already protecting our interests at the highest levels already. We need banks. No America First banks because that's just civnat BS. Smart community banks which will support local initiatives to improve the life status of White communities. Owners and managers of these banks will be screened and their loyalty verified as often as necessary. Jews own the world thanks to their banking power. We may not be able to rise to their level but a bit of help on the financial side wouldn't hurt. These banks will obviously abstain from using the words "White" but it will be clear that the money is invested locally where Whites live. Anything that banks could be tied to that is definitely very pro-White or at least very closer to our positions and which will allow them to circumvent any Federal attempt at pushing diversity and quotas will be of value. For example, support a charity which although not openly White will be count in its organizers some radicals on our side. Anything that is White without saying it's White is the way to go. The unseen forces will make sure that local interests align with ours.
Italians have a nice word for this. It's called Omertà.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omert%C3%A0
>>Omertà ... is a Southern Italian code of silence and code of honor and conduct that places importance on silence in the face of questioning by authorities or outsiders; non-cooperation with authorities, the government, or outsiders, especially during criminal investigations; and willfully ignoring and generally avoiding interference with the illegal activities of others (i.e., not contacting law enforcement or the authorities when one is aware of, witness to, or even the victim of certain crimes).
A 1488 Omertà, that's the way to go.
As always, there will be a need for a sound dichotomy with the clean optics layer, above ground, and the dirty one, underground. More money in our coffers will also mean we will have attorneys to protect our people who get harassed. The Jews are a mafia and they have seized control of the White countries. There is no working alternative but to fight fire with fire.
Regarding the no-go zones, something similar can be done by putting pressure on real estate agents and making sure they get the (anonymous) memo that selling houses to non-Whites will have severe consequences. Pressure will also be put on non-fully White families. Nothing dramatic but just enough to make their lives sufficiently stressful so they will consider leaving on their own volition and resettle far away from territories we will secretly claim.
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>>4984
>Personally, I find allegiance testing to be a bit of a larp.
It ain't a larp anymore when a failure to fit and follow the secret law of the land translates into a hole in the dirt. That's the whole point of it. It's real.
>Is this the sort of thing a man wants to be subjected to if he really has a bone to pick with ZOG?
It depends on the role. A sensitive slot will require a proper handling. While people just wanting to give ZOG the middle finger and doing what they can do at their humble level will barely require any screening, any individual entering the higher levels of any organization, company or secret volunteer corps will definitely need to understand that things are very real, that this is not a joke anymore, because the lives of White people depend on it.
For this I would strongly recommend reading the very entertaining The Brigade book. It's a page turner as much as it is a very well thought and say, a sufficiently realistic projection of what could happen within decades from now.
>wouldn't a person asked to undergo such a ritual immediately be resentful of those who didn't have to?
Ha, this starts sounding like a FAQ.
No, they would not be resentful because this necessary screening would only concern people who occupy sensitive and often powerful positions in private or public sectors, or who literally become part of the silent enforcers of our own secret law. I think the vast majority of people on our side won't be concerned by such oaths. It's a bit like a hardcore kind of Freemasonry where if you betray your brothers, you die the way of a traitor.
>I propose a remedy that may be a better guard: Fitness tests.
Won't cut it. There still are too many ex-army guys, turncoats and mercenaries who will be ripped and even put some of our volunteers to shame, body wise.
However what we can do is check on foreskins, and that's very serious.
>The very act of insurgency is illegal to the state
There will be no official insurgency. It would be the stupidest thing to do. But the topic of secession might make an intense return although we would need to be very weary of socalled WNs pushing for this vehemently because they will certainly sabotage our own work. Open radicalization will be a sure sign of an ZOG attempt at steering us in the wrong direction and giving the Feds the green light to crack down on our people and that is the last thing we want.
>Who says it has to be sold to our people in the first place?
I don't think you'd be able to control the flow of drugs, whether you micro or macromanage the sales, unless you strictly operated in very hostile territories, far from our lands, and understood all the risks that came with this kind of operation. Besides, it's needlessly putting functional men at risk of being caught for criminal activities when they could be serving in legal ways while supporting our cause. We also need to think of the families. See the reality of the small businesses. It's also a very bad press. Anyone of our people caught selling drugs on our lands would be found hanging tomorrow's morning.
>Monero by design can't be outlawed, and what are precious metals other than crystalized wealth?
This is something to ask to people who breathe this economics stuff all day long. I'm not qualified enough to make suggestions. What I know is that barter will definitely be a requirement.
Discussing wealth means we must consider funding. Funding should be voluntary. We certainly don't want to put a gun against our own people's temple to force them to part with their money like the sickest mafia would. There are good and bad sides to mafias. We need communiy-driven powerful and positive incentives to encourage Whites to put their money into local adventures, we do not want to terrorize them unless they really step out of bounds and openly act traitorously, at which point we may even ask ourselves if they truly are our people despite being White like us.
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We can see what territories would be the most fruitful in a campaign to collect funds for our local initiatives.
Leaving out the areas lost to libs and commies, the best areas are in the Northern half and in large parts found in the midlands, with other valuable regions in the extreme Eastern and Western shores.
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First of all, your honesty is appreciated.
>>4986
>It ain't a larp anymore
Perhaps this method will work for you and your group, but still maintain that a better rite of passage is a combination of faith, history, merit and tenure.
>It depends on the role
Since these groups will be hyperlocal, this goes without saying. The better known and successful the person, the more will be asked of them.
>Reading books
There's nothing a book can say that a treatise can't say better, and more concisely. An idea is nothing without action. Action, without working theory and praxis, is just wasted effort.
>Ha, this starts sounding like a FAQ.
This is the intention, to take all of our combined fascist thought and reduce it to a collection of epistemological facts that will inspire even the most detached boomer to action. This may sound farfetched, but my group managed to get a local barber to distribute a "prepper primer" of sorts. Thought it a wasted effort until news a member's in-law managed to get one and wished to discuss it. Unfortunately the member who wrote them left and the dispatches stopped, but it shows that something as simple as that can reach a larger audience than imagined, without the surveillance of zog to stop it.
>There still are too many ex-army guys
You haven't visited a law enforcement agency recently, have you? The only cops who even remotely stay in shape these days are swat and sheriff's deputies. But universally, zog glowniggers won't be able to run a mile, much less 2 under a time limit. Even if they did, being given a humble lot will weed them out if suspected.
>There will be no official insurgency.
Insurgency isn't the sort of thing that's declared openly, is it? It still doesn't take away from the fact that one exists de facto, even if clandestine.
>I don't think you'd be able to control the flow of drugs
A valid point. But if any group should be moving any contraband on rebel turf, it'll be ours.
>This is something to ask to people who breathe this economics stuff all day long.
None of this will work with an economically illiterate populace. This is one of the constant set backs our group has in growth and its the inability to think outside of fiat and its consequences. I implore you and anyone reading to learn about monero and think about what it would allow such resistance to do in the face of zog tyranny.
>>4987
There's no more fertile soil in this country than Appalachia, the plains and arguably the PNW. In more ways than one, I urge you and any lurkers to think about moving to these parts if you aren't there already.
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>>4987
>>4993
>>4986
All this talk is not only wasted but, more importantly, counter productive. Anyone wanting to do something will do so locally, privately and in utmost secrecy. Silence is golden and that's how many criminal organizations proliferated and prevented infiltration. Openly broadcasting your intentions in public is a sure fire way to have your whatever little larp might turn into become still born or get infiltrated from day 0. I'm not even gonna attempt to read more than a few lines out of your walls of text to you know you're a retard who's more dangerous to himself and his peers than to his actual enemy.
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>>4994
>All this talk is not only wasted...
A bad opinion, founded on a lack of insight. This thread is not to direct, but to inspire. The world is awash with many of material means but lack imagination and volition. But as you still don't have anything to contribute, the least you could do is be quiet and let your betters talk.
>>4994
Rubbish. Lots of people would gladly help but they lack ideas, organization, faith and can't even see that they're not alone. You can't even imagine how good it feels to be with people who are so close to you in terms of political, cultural and religious views. A large reason why nothing happens much is because we're all divided and we can't see the group yet. Also a lot of people rely way too much on their current political parties which are very cucked.
>Openly broadcasting your intentions in public
>I'm not even gonna attempt to read more than a few lines
Maybe you should have, idiot.
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>I see why captcha is so necessary on these smaller chans.
Consider also that it has to be accessible via TOR and not involve cuckscript, since posting on ZZZ (even outside of /fascist/) from your white IP is not a good idea.
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>>5001
How come? If you don’t post anything illegal you should be fine.
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>>5000 (checked)
I hope what you have been seeing here fills your heart with hope. The isles will see troubles again, a few good men is all that will be needed to turn the tides. We pray for your success.
>>5001
bitchan and dread found a way to have tor posting bot-deterents without jeetscript. The bitchan implementation is much more rudimentary, I wonder how easy it would be to use on this webring?
>>5002
The problem is the opposite: Glowniggers will cp spam and ddos if they can't control the discourse. Bot deterrents aren't only for sliding, but to intercept those bad faith attacks.
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