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>>3000 (OP) 
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>>>3000 (OP) 
> A wiki that only uses primary sources (aka "actual evidence")

Already exists https://www.metapedia.org

>>3011
that's not what metapedia is.

https://frenschan.org/z/res/41427.html
https://frenschan.org/pol/res/115053.html
Go away.

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>>3000 (OP) 
I'm still here. The movement is slowly dying because people in the movement don't do much. This has to change or there will never be an impact. Conversating and debating isn't enough. Fascism is about groups who share a will and work seriously and hard to make an impact.

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>>4386
> I'm still here. The movement is slowly dying because people in the movement don't do much. This has to change or there will never be an impact. Conversating and debating isn't enough. Fascism is about groups who share a will and work seriously and hard to make an impact.

There is a limit to how much we can achieve online. This is not an argument against internet communities and other forms of online organization, but you have to have your expectations straight when making those interactions, which by their very nature will be limited to debates, meme factories, book and content sharing, and the more intellectual-managerial activities.

For real impact, you need to get into IRL movements. Anonymity is powerfull because it makes you untouchable. This protects you from enemies but prevents the creation of tight-knit groups which are needed for all higher order operations.

If you are American, join PatrioticFront:
https://patriotfront.us

If you are Italian, join CasaPound:
https://www.casapounditalia.org

You can find movements from other places in this archive:
https://3pdirectory.com/activist-clubs

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying there isn't a risk of getting doxed, but without taking that risk, we will not have an impact.

"Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next best."
― Otto von Bismarck

>>4436
If you suggest such fed bait organizations again, you will never speak here again.
Why Patriot front is trouble:
https://americanfuturist.net/patriot-front-a-lesson-in-insanity/
https://americanfuturist.net/patriot-front-2-rated-r-for-retarded/
https://americanfuturist.net/philadelphia/
Second for a look at what they have been doing(and attempting to do to the men who run AF since, take a look at the Telegram page for AF:
https://t.me/nottheAF
Patriot front is an organization that is nothing but an exercise in Thomas Rousseau's ego, and they have infiltrated pretty much every organization and active club that exists in America(and that's just what's known so far) to prevent criticism of Thomas or his evidence gathering operation, he also outright cucked out to get on(and while on) the Air with Iranian Jew, Patrick Bet-David.

>>4437
Are there any open and named orgs which you think are worth looking at or do they all seem like grifts to you? Obviously active clubs are too small and numerous to review in detail.

>>4437
>infiltrated pretty much every organization and active club that exists in America(and that's just what's known so far) to prevent criticism of Thomas or his evidence gathering operation

I read those AmericanFututist articles before and I do not recall that. Some PF members do join Active Clubs, but infiltrating? I’m not so sure. Yes PF does suck, I agree btw
Also what about Blood Tribe? What about Aryan Freedom Network? AFN looks pretty good to me.

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>>4436
I disagree with "online activity is worthless" so so much. 

Look at the holocaust. If we wanted, we could read through every book and figure out every problem with everything that has ever been claimed. After that, we could make an AI (I actually make semantic AI which specializes in understanding English) that responds to claims and books and whatever about the holocaust, giving sources and whatever else.

Debatebots which hold perfect positions, know all the evidence, and can therefore argue for anything and disprove anything better than any human. 

4chan has done so much more to advance the holocaust disproval cause than any IRL activity ever could.

I don't want to turn this thread into an attack on right-wing movements so I'm not going to comment on the efficacy of irl right-wing activity but I'll just note that there hasn't been any notable achievements in that realm in the last five years.

There is so much that can be done online. The CIA spends massive resources poisoning the online culture and shutting down online groups because of it. The fight against "misinfo" and demonizing the right and deplatforming and cancelling people is done because of the power of online activity. The problem is, people don't try. There are no, to my knowledge, groups which attempt any online activity or creation. 

Culture can have a HUGE impact. Media can have a HUGE impact. Video games and watchable media might look like just dumb toys, but they're what every government uses for propaganda.

>>4438
No, I follow Mason's Advice from Siege, if the group is named and open it is most likely comped by the feds, advice he himself doesn't seem to follow much but as he has had contact with feds his own book says to stay away from him personally or they will watch you too. Ultimately, your life is your own, choose to do what you will.
>>4440
That information isn't in those articles, AF put most of it up on their Telegram, also information that PF had somehow gotten into the mod team on 4cuck to censor oppositional views on /pol/ there too, there may be a way to contact AF and get the proof they have on their website.

>>4443
>if the group is named and open it is most likely comped by the feds
You're paranoid. The feds aren't that concerned over such things. And this kind of mindset will spell our doom: when a real organization will appear, you won't take part in it.
>Mason's Advice from Siege
Have you forgotten The Order? That wasn't "comped by the feds", was it?

>>4441
This is why image boards are useless. You get too many manchildren like these who think that our problems can be solved through a computer screen. 
These tactics have been tried THOUSANDS of times, they DON'T WORK! People don't care about the truth, they only care about THEIR OWN COMFORT. You WILL NOT convince them, AND EVEN IF YOU DO, they will still be cowards like you and WON'T TAKE A STAND.

>>4446
>You're paranoid. The feds aren't that concerned over such things.
I think they are but the country is deteriorating so quickly they will be forced to take on actual crime waves and organizations and put framing us on the back burner. 
Someone who has a paranoid mindset might counter that they will prioritize us much higher than real crime and that may be true to an extent, but I would also imagine it will be hard to hunt down "evil White supremacists" while your agents are being shot in the streets by cartels.

>>4446
>You're paranoid. 
No, I'm not.
>The feds aren't that concerned over such things. And this kind of mindset will spell our doom: when a real organization will appear, you won't take part in it.
No organization that has any real effect would or will be allowed to exist without infiltration or violence to crush them, Pierce's organization was the last that had resisted successfully and it fractured and became useless on his death because he had forgotten to look to the future and build successors up correctly. The Silent Brotherhood resisted and was crushed both by lawfare(as in illegal charges brought about by the snitching of federal informants) and literally the death of one it's leaders in a federal raid, so you are transparently wrong, the lesson to learn is that anyone who blares their name and organization out for the public to know and fear is an idiot, no matter how brave and principled they are, and they will be targets both of the government and of the disgruntled citizenry.

>>4449
>No organization that has any real effect would or will be allowed to exist without infiltration or violence to crush them
That's why it's called a struggle and not a walk in the park.
The government of Pierce's day was better supported and more competent than today's alphabet agencies and they're only getting dumber.
>they will be targets both of the government and of the disgruntled citizenry.
>disgruntled citizenry
depends on the goals and methods of the organization. If they are out there playing Minecraft so to speak then yes, being overt is retarded and the public will hate you.

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>make a thread about productive activity, what should be done to advance the causes we care about, trying to get activity and advice for what productive projects people would like to work on

>two users, the only posters, derail it by making it be about shitting on right-wing movements and giving no suggestions for the op besides "join these guys and you'll make an impact by doing things i cant explain using a method i cant explain" and demoralizing

the absolute state of the modern right

>>4451
I miss peak 8/pol/ so much...

>>4451
You are going to be distraught when you find out Hitler 'shat on right-wing movements', in fact they were rather his biggest opponents more than the actual leftists and Jews back then. German Monarchists sabotaged Hitler on every opportunity they could because he criticized their extremely retarded ideas of bringing the Kaiser back to power, this includes the Generals plotting against him for these reasons.
He literally hated German moderates (That is, non-NS right-wingers) so much that he was going to name his book "Four and a Half Years of Struggle Against Lies, Stupidity and Cowardice", that title should be self-evident for what they had done against him.
It's not only necessary and natural to criticize bad movements based on vague ideals but people respect you more and would rather join you as potential members over them.
>>4452
I miss it too, It devolved into some sort of shitshow eventually, all thanks to the Cripplekike replacing the original BO with Imkampfy and therealmoonman which in return converted the board into Trump worship and they banned book threads given which you don't have to imagine why so, as they were aware that NS literature criticized exactly the politician cults and extremely predictable, outdated tactics.

>>4386
>The movement is slowly dying because people in the movement don't do much.
You mean people like you? It has been perhaps two years now and you have not worked on a single one of your projects.
>>4451
>shitting on right-wing movements
You used to shit on every single right-wing movement with any real life presence, have you recanted?

>>4455
I've been working on AI projects that are apolitical. They would've been political had anyone shown that they wanted something political.

This thread is meant to be positive, not negative.

>>4450
>That's why it's called a struggle and not a walk in the park.
Sure, but the struggle isn't here yet.
No, I would argue that pierces government was far less supported but more competently staffed, technology makes up a lot of the gap today and they do not not any better or worse at actually finding charges to throw at Nazi's then or now.
>depends on the goals and methods of the organization. 
Not really, and not being overt as an organization will lead to failure, without fail, opticscucking is for idiots.

With all  techs  developed to replace women, buttsex is our future.

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>>4461
>With all  techs  developed to replace women, buttsex is our future.
Faggotry is inherently Xtian in nature, it is an abominable act only befitting fot a low iq Xtian Nigger.

>Faggotry is inherently Xtian in nature
The fine cultural practice of violating a young boy's ass predates Christianity by a few millienia.