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Regarding recent events: >>>/meta/4978 

John 3:16 KJV: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


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Catholics and Orthodox alike. There is a concerted effort of infiltrators trying to "project veritas" Christians within their own churches in the guise of visitors, catechumens, etc to get them to say things in confidence. The most heinous thing of it is that they take these recordings to bishops to effectively excommunicate people they get on recording, context removed of course, without addressing archbishops/cardinals/metropolitans as a proper excommunication would require. We have to know that no matter the denomination, the leaders and clergy of our Church are filled with cowardly old men that are more content to count their coins than they are to even attempt a cursory investigation into allegations made by outsiders in any regard. The revival of Christendom in the world is being stymied not only by those allied with the devil and his children, but at best by those who see their faith is just a job instead of responsibility they claim to profess. So as Moses before us, and unless something changes, we have to await the death of all of these demoralized boomers, gen x, gen y, and even a good part of the millenials before the Holy Church can rise again to prominence on the world stage. The only other choice is to start creating organizations within the faith to counterattack against such effeminate leadership every time something like this happens to another brother of ours going forward. Attached is one of many letters to come being sent out by many such cowards within the ranks of church leadership all over the west. Let this serve as a warning to all others who believe that this situation is developing in any other way. No matter how true and compelling the message of the Gospel is, no matter how "based" you think Catholicism or Orthodoxy to be, at the end of the day a priest is more likely to deny basic theological truths for a pouch of silvers and a pension. The attached picture is an actual such letter that has been redacted for obvious reasons. There's no point in redacting the name of this bishop, as the diocese gives it away and the signature, in their own hand no less, is an indictment against Judases such as this one. I welcome the discussion to come.
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>>27083 (OP) 
>without addressing archbishops/cardinals/metropolitans as a proper excommunication would require
The language of this letter is more informal than what I saw in the movie Becket (1964):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRt2cKvJLlE
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>>27084
>Anglican
Not touching that one. But I pray that this get smeared in the face of anyone who takes something as grave as excluding anyone from the chalice for what is at best a difference of opinion and at worst a brazen act of cowardice in the face of controversy. There is more in the bible on the judgement and critique of woman and jew alike, second only to doctrine and salvation. When it happens to you or any other brother, may it stir the loins to fight for the truth. For today they deny the truth in and of itself, tomorrow they will deny the very church fathers who elaborated on such truths that drove much of antiquity and to the modern day.
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As a general rule, you should avoid interacting with people who are too eager to talk about "based" subjects. This should obviously go without saying with regard to people you've only just met, but it applies just as much to people you've met before. If someone suspicious or combative shows up at your parish, avoid prolonged contact and warn the established members that you're close with.
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>>27085
I think this was before the Anglican church. The movie took place during the time when England was still Roman Catholic. In one part, Becket travels to Rome to see the Pope. So the excommunication rite might be an accurate representation (although I haven't looked into it any further).
>>27086
You misunderstand. In this instance there was a supposed catechumen visitor to that parish arguing cringe leftist view points and the parishioner defended their faith. The letter is excommunicating the parishioner, not the visitor. I hope the proper context can give you an idea as to how bad the problem truly is.

How strange it is that this board, prior to my post, would only have a few posts a week, and now there's all of this attention that conveniently slides this off the overboard. It seems like I'm right and this is a jewish move after all.
>>27085
Saint Thomas Beckett was hundreds of years before Henrician reformation and actually Beckett was slain for trying to say that the King's temporal authority was below that of the Church - the complete opposite of Anglicanism.
>>27083 (OP) 
So, what was said? I am not going to side either way because sometimes people do need excommunication or a long penance into order to be brought to repentance. Without both sides of the story here, this is pointless.
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>>27110
From my understanding, which isn't complete, the supposed "catechumen visitor" spoke to a parishioner espousing leftist "Patriachy Theory." Said parishioner rebutted something along the lines of, and I paraphrase: "feminism is designed to turn women into whores" and pointed out that some of the leaders of the "2nd wave feminist" movement were jews. There was no indication said conversation was heated or that any yelling ensued, and witnesses reported that  the two parties were seen shaking hands when said "catechumen visitor" departed. The whole thing stinks to high heaven, especially when the bishop in question has been known to run a school that supposedly researches jewish mysticism and how it inspired Orthodox tradition. For anything else one would have to contact the diocese.
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>>27111
If that was the case that does seem really odd and way over the top for a full excommunication. I would at least attempt to reconcile with the Bishop, but a change in jurisdiction sounds in order. A shame, I believe that Bishop spent time on Athos, he should be hardcore.
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>>27083 (OP) 
Is true that catholics and orthodox have more things in common than the several protestant sects. But the funny thing is how the catholic church tries to get closer with those heretics instead with the orthodox ones. And is true that the catholic church have been long infiltrated since CVII
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>>27112
>odd and way over the top for a full excommunication...
This is why I'm trying to shed light on this, Lord willing the right people will come to see this and ask the questions I'm not able to. 
>I believe that Bishop spent time on Athos, he should be hardcore.
One would think so, but it seems that whether it is the jew holding the purse strings hostage to control our clergy, these boomers clergy themselves retardedly cling to the zionist lies of the previous century, or God forbid, he's one of many suspected masons within western clergy, the devil is alive in the church and will continue to be until it is cast out by the light of truth. After the death of 8chan, this is the most popular tor friendly chan with a /christian/ board. Help me brothers.
>>27113
Vatican II truly was the death knell of the Roman Rite. Having personally experienced a Novus Ordo mass, I couldn't make it past the second coombaya interlude until my soul recoiled at the blasphemy and left.
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